Participants: Kay Kuzma (Host), Danny Shelton (Host), Jason Seiber
Series Code: UC
Program Code: UC000410
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00:04 Reaching the World
00:08 Embracing the community 00:11 Touching Lives 00:14 Shelley Quinn 00:16 Don Mackintosh 00:17 Kay Kuzma 00:20 UP CLOSE 00:25 Hello Everyone, and welcome again 00:26 to another 3ABN presence Up Close 00:29 We are coming to you today from Calhoun Georgia 00:31 It's beautiful down here, isn't it? 00:32 It certainly is! 00:33 This is South! It's beautiful. 00:35 from the Seventh Day Adventist Church 00:37 and we have a live audience, 00:38 and we want to welcome each and every one of you. 00:40 Thank you for coming today! 00:42 We have some tremendous topic 00:43 I believe a very important topic that were discussing today 00:47 We sure do! 00:48 Today we're going to be talking about: 00:49 " How to tame your TV "? 00:52 For many years now 00:53 television has been changing the way we communicate 00:56 the things we buy and the things we believe. 01:00 But here are some statistics Danny 01:03 that should make your blood run cold 01:05 According to the Ac Nielsen Company, the 01:08 average American watches more than 4 hours of TV each day 01:13 now that's 28 hours a week or 2 months of non stop watching 01:17 over the course of one year! 01:20 The average person then, would have spent the equivalent 01:24 of 9 years of watching TV by the time they're 65 years of age 01:30 That's Terrible! 01:31 I mean 9 years! 01:32 That's unbelievable! 01:34 You might be asking yourself: 01:35 " What is it that keeps us glued to the set? " 01:38 Well, violence for one 01:41 By the time the average American child reaches 18 years of age 01:46 They would have witnessed 01:47 between 16.000 and 40.000 murderers on TV! 01:52 Recently we sent our cameras to a local mall 01:55 to find out if these statistics are really true. 01:59 And they came back with some disturbing answers 02:02 Here is what the people are saying 02:04 and remember we have a tendency to underestimate 02:08 the time we spend watching television 02:12 Yes 02:15 How much television do you watch each day? 02:19 I would say probably about 2 hours 02:24 About 3 02:26 Oh, probably about 5 hours 02:28 Maybe a couple of hours, 02:30 maybe popping a movie and that's about it. 02:31 I would say maybe at least 02:35 at least about 3 hours, a day. 02:37 I probably don't even watch 15 minutes a day 02:39 I'll check the weather in the morning and that's about it. 02:41 I'm pretty much busy with work 02:43 I go to the gym 02:45 I watch about an hour worth of TV a day 02:48 I usually watch about an hour of TV a day. 02:52 probably 1 to 3 hours, depending on the giving day 02:55 I watch probably 1 hour and a half, 2 hours every day 03:00 Personally, probably about 3 hours 03:03 Almost all day actually 03:05 cause she goes to work and I am at home 03:10 Do you have a standard of what not to watch? 03:15 we don't like shows with, you know 03:17 bad language and things like that in it 03:19 because we don't use that in our home 03:20 and we don't want her to hear that 03:23 We try to keep it clean, and you know, family type shows 03:29 No, not really 03:30 I'll extend up comedy when I have time 03:33 I like to watch MTV, Music Videos stuff like that 03:36 sometimes movies 03:39 With the kids I don't really want them to watch like 03:41 violence or like scary movies or stuff like that 03:44 so they can't watch that 03:46 Not for the kids 03:48 For myself I watch anything that I think is suitable 03:52 Action movies, and stuff like that 03:55 Personally, anything with anyone gay I don't usually watch so.. 03:59 cause... I am not like that so.. 04:02 I am really tired of violence and 04:05 things that I don't feel that are appropriate for my kids 04:09 Not really, I'm pretty open 04:12 Like I said I pretty much limit just 04:14 sports and the premium channels. 04:16 We only watch certain programs 04:19 like MTV, and certain things that are usually for little kids 04:22 I don't watch, no. 04:23 I don't like a lot of violence 04:25 and lot of sex definitely I like? or not? 04:27 No, I usually... I watch everything 04:30 No I really wouldn't say so 04:31 I mean, if something catches my eyes and if it's interesting 04:34 I might as watch it for a little bit see if it's interesting 04:36 If not, flip it or whatever 04:39 The channels that we get are basically 04:41 about any family channel 04:46 I can't thing of any shows off hand that we wouldn't watch 04:49 We don't much care for the MTV type shows 04:54 or some of the new comedy that's out. 04:57 but basically we just like watching 04:59 a lot of the Discovery channels History channels 05:02 Those types of shows 05:05 Ok, well... 05:06 ...very interesting to hear the range of how many... 05:08 and I think probably 05:10 You said a while ago 05:11 This actually show that we watch more than what we think we do 05:15 That's pretty scary! 05:16 Of course we want them to watch 3ABN 05:18 That's right 05:19 We'll be talking about that, I am sure, in a little bit 05:21 It's not that television is wrong 05:24 It's just the choices: "How much time we're spending?" 05:27 as the people said 05:29 and what you're putting into your mind 05:30 Yeah, and what you're putting into your mind! 05:32 Well our guest today is Jason Seiber 05:34 He's a former TV news reporter 05:36 who has spent a lot of time 05:38 looking into the effects of television on our lives. 05:41 He's covered stories as wide ranging as 05:44 The death of Princess Diana 05:45 and the average boring City Council meeting 05:48 I'm not sure somebody would like that somewhere, but 05:50 if you've been in city council meetings some of them are 05:53 ...important Maybe necessary 05:55 but he's here to share with us 05:56 some of the basic TV taming principles 05:59 Please make him welcome at this time 06:01 Come on up, Jason 06:06 How are you? 06:11 Tell us a little bit about yourself 06:13 You worked in communications, 06:15 Do you have a degree in communications? 06:17 Yes I do 06:18 I have a lot of degrees in a lot of different areas 06:21 I have a degree in History 06:22 but one of my degrees is a Bachelor Degree in Journalism 06:25 with emphases in broadcast 06:27 Ok! 06:28 and I have been to the Cemetery 06:29 Seminary 06:32 I believe that it is possible to be born again! 06:36 Well good, That is wonderful! 06:38 I am glad we are learning that. 06:39 Jason being in this field 06:42 Why do you think people are watching so much television? 06:44 Watching television really is a pretty basic instinct 06:48 our lives are stressful, we come home tired 06:50 we're looking forward to doing something different 06:52 and television gives us a chance to tune out 06:54 and not only tune out 06:55 but tune into something that 06:57 you don't have to think in order to enjoy 06:59 It's fast 07:00 It's easy 07:01 It entertains 07:03 It makes life seen a little less pressing 07:06 and it's probably the most basic drug 07:09 the average American uses these days 07:11 A Drug... Interesting 07:13 What goes in into making this powerful television programming? 07:19 What goes into it is a really basic process 07:23 of manipulation 07:24 the idea is that 07:25 before we move your mind into television 07:27 we really want to move your heart 07:30 and even though you like to... 07:32 Some of us have actually talked about the indifferent news rooms 07:36 How do we actually reach the mind 07:37 but there is not a lot of time to reach your mind 07:39 Just think about how much time... 07:41 News is my area of specialties 07:43 so let's take a look at that for just a moment 07:44 News is sort of instant entertainment in many ways 07:48 So what we have is basically 07:50 about 15 minutes of news time, some of that 07:53 has to go to sports some of that has to go to weather 07:55 so when you really break it down 07:56 you have about 10 minutes to move the days news 07:59 Now you have 5 reporters 08:00 who have veined? up for that 10 minutes 08:01 so it's going to cut it down to a maximum of 2 minutes of time 08:05 for the average reporter 08:06 and you're going to be lucky if you get that 08:07 a minute and a half is considered generous in my field 08:12 The process is the sound 08:14 You want to start off with the sound 08:16 of the person that is going to be talking 08:18 and as soon as you do that 08:20 you lay those sound bytes down 08:22 You go underneath that 08:23 and you lay down the most important layer 08:26 I should say the second most important layer 08:28 So you're going to lay that layer down which is 08:29 Your natural sound 08:31 Your natural sound is going to begin the major process 08:34 of influencing the mind 08:35 If I lay down natural sound 08:37 that has an homonymous character to it 08:39 I am telling you that I am expressing danger 08:42 and doesn't matter what you're seeing 08:44 as long as you're hearing that scary natural sound 08:46 you are going to be moved by it. 08:47 So whether is music or whether is some sound of river water 08:52 whatever it may be 08:53 try to give that natural sound in there 08:55 The next layer is going to be a layer of sight 08:58 now, as much as possible 08:59 I am going to try to keep your talking head of? 09:01 You will have some visual contact that will set you up 09:04 but as soon as we can cut away from that 09:06 and go and show you something that corresponds 09:08 to what that person is saying, the better. 09:10 Then again I'll have another opportunity to manipulate 09:13 So, if you are saying one thing 09:15 so, for instance 09:16 You have your average city? say: 09:18 I think we are doing a good job with homelessness 09:21 but I cut away while he is talking about that 09:23 and I show a homeless guy reaching in the garbage can 09:27 What have I just said? 09:28 You just destroyed everything. 09:29 I called him a lair 09:30 and nobody even thinks about that 09:32 that's why the city council men are sometimes 09:34 a little bit hesitant to talk to us 09:35 We have a love-hate relationship 09:38 The final piece is 09:39 something that was developed by a guy named Eisenstein 09:43 Sergey Eisenstein 09:44 Great Russian filmmaker 09:45 prior to him 09:46 people used to show everything that went into the film 09:50 so when you were making film 09:51 If you've showed a man getting tied up 09:52 You'd show the entire man being tied up 09:54 As in Edison great film: "The Great Train Robbery" 09:57 After a while they figured out that was poor use of time 09:59 So they begun to fragment time 10:01 And that's really where we've gone after that 10:03 So you show a small portion of the activity 10:06 and you fragment it 10:08 Now we've been becoming 10:09 more and more fragmented all the time Kay 10:11 So if you watch the extreme into that 10:13 you'll be watching the fragmented reality of.. 10:16 MTV! 10:17 MTV would have probably about half a second of time 10:21 or less 10:22 for you to digest the picture. 10:24 Why do they do that? 10:25 This is the nub of what makes television powerful 10:30 The reason they do that is Number one: 10:32 They keep you off your feet mentally 10:34 You are going to be accepting thinks 10:37 on a consumer basis 10:40 as a person who is being forced fed 10:42 You don't have time to think about the images 10:44 You give up 10:45 and you just start accepting 10:47 that makes your emotional response stronger 10:49 that's going to sell my advertisements 10:50 Number two: 10:51 It's because it makes you into the final editor of the film 10:56 So if you take for instance 10:57 the famous scene from Alfred Hitchcock's film: 11:01 "Psycho" Where you see a knife being raised 11:03 You see a woman's terrified face 11:05 You see a foot slipping in the shower 11:07 You see something red going down 11:08 Not even red. It's black and white 11:10 but something going down the drain 11:11 and then you ask people what they saw 11:13 and they'll tell you that they saw a murder! 11:15 but the fact is: 11:17 they didn't see any such thing 11:19 The editor got inside your mind 11:21 and you became the final editor 11:23 and that's why the images that you've seen 11:26 in television stick with you 11:27 People would describe scenes from television 11:29 and form the movies and from the news that they never saw 11:32 because clever editors and clever directors 11:35 made you make the final cut 11:36 It is scary, isn't it? 11:39 Well coming up 11:40 We'll be continuing to talk with Jason 11:43 and get an inside look at the television industry 11:46 So stay with us! 11:48 We'll be right back! 11:56 Next week on Up Close 11:57 We're going to be talking about the fall out 12:00 that comes from divorce 12:02 I spent a lot of time crying, of course 12:07 and mourning 12:08 the loss of not just a marriage but my whole life 12:12 You heard her say she was angry with God for a time 12:15 It was pretty uncomfortable not knowing 12:17 whether to get up and say hello 12:20 So what do people do? They say I am not going to go 12:23 anywhere where God would be pleased to see me 12:27 Next week on Up Close 12:28 Recovering from the Pain of Divorce 12:31 Don't miss it! 12:42 Welcome back to 3ABN presents Up Close 12:45 Today we're talking to Jason Seiber 12:48 about taming your TV. 12:51 How does television affect us? 12:53 Is it possible to use TV in a positive way? 12:58 or do we have to throw it out all together? 13:02 Jason you are here as the expert. 13:05 ???? 13:10 What about it? 13:12 The simple thing it sounds like 13:13 what you said while ago 13:14 that we just needed to throw all televisions out the window 13:18 If so, nobody is watching today 13:19 Right, right and we can all go home right now 13:21 It's been nice seeing you all today 13:23 and then you throw away your televisions 13:25 No it's not as easy as that 13:27 Talking about throwing away television 13:29 is sometimes like talking about throwing away a groceries cart 13:33 and we want to think about that a little bit later on 13:35 as we get into the program today 13:36 but think about this 13:38 When you go let's say Mayers 13:39 which is a major store up in Michigan, where I live 13:42 or maybe Pigley Wiggly 13:43 Do they have that down here in Michigan? 13:45 Oh excuse me Georgia, Georgia? 13:48 I am sorry 13:49 Don't wait for me in the folio? we can talk later 13:54 When you go to these places When you go to the supermarket 13:56 You have your supermarket grocery cart 14:00 And as you drive, taken that grocery down the isle? 14:02 You have choices about 14:03 what you're going to put into the grocery card 14:06 Are you going to put in Whiskey? 14:07 Well maybe an alcoholic will 14:08 Will you put cheap white bread? 14:09 or you're going to get valuable things, 14:12 like whole wheat bread and some sort of bottled water 14:15 What are you going to put into your groceries cart? 14:17 The decision is not the grocery's cart 14:19 The decision is yours! 14:21 Unfortunately for some of TV programming these days 14:24 You have items that want to jump themselves in your grocery card 14:27 So it gets a little bit more challenging then 14:29 It would be like 14:30 having to go along and you suddenly see that 14:31 There's a whiskey bottle in my grocery cart 14:33 What are you going to do about that? 14:34 Well you don't want to leave it there 14:36 Here is the analogy, how it breaks down 14:38 When you are watching Television 14:39 you can make some decisions about what you are going to see 14:42 Let's say that you like to watch 16 minutes 14:45 a great program 14:46 where you're going to learn a lot about our country 14:48 but while you are watching 16 minutes 14:50 let's say some sort of program comes on for a cop show 14:53 that shows graphic violence. 14:55 Well they're of course going to show you the worst part 14:57 of that graphic violence 14:58 So what do you do then? 15:00 Are you going to leave that into your grocery cart? 15:03 Are you going to continuing watching? 15:05 going down idols that throw? that into your grocery cart 15:08 Or you are going to make a decision 15:09 to switch over 15:10 and watch something that is safe all the time 15:12 Like most of the time PBS's? 15:14 or 3ABN for that matter. 15:18 So as you're talking about this 15:19 I am thinking about what that person at the mall 15:22 is saying about this 15:23 So let's go back to the mall where we ask people 15:26 and talk about how they thought about television 15:31 What they thought it was doing to affect their families 15:34 and once again we got some surprising answers! 15:40 How do you think television is affecting you and your family? 15:45 Well, I think adults... can 15:48 pretty well 15:50 know how it affects them, and to 15:57 know if anything is bad or violent, they can handle it 15:59 but young children 16:00 I think it affects them, a lot 16:03 We should watch, what they watch 16:07 I could use a word 16:08 Sitting in front of it can make you dumb 16:10 You just kind of get zoned into the TV 16:12 don't really get out, you know, do stuff 16:14 learn about things 16:15 I mean there is stuff on there for little kids 16:16 that might learn stuff here and there 16:18 but I don't think it is really that good 16:20 Honestly. 16:21 I don't know 16:23 No, not a whole lot really 16:26 I mean, I got a busy life so... 16:29 I don't have to much time for it 16:31 Well I think it 16:33 keeps us from probably doing more reading 16:38 as far as other items I don't know 16:41 but it stops us from doing them very much 16:43 because we, when the weather is nice or even when it is raining 16:47 we go more for drives just to get out of the house 16:50 for some degree 16:52 We don't use TV as a 16:56 well this is what we got to do, type thing. 16:59 I don't think very much, honestly 17:01 TV is kind for entertainment 17:03 I try to teach them things on 17:06 Lessons of life that 17:07 they're supposed to learn from me or from their mother 17:09 and I don't think they're influenced by TV 17:11 They know what's fiction 17:12 It is not real 17:14 I don't think very much 17:16 I think that it affects a lot because 17:18 anything that she watches she picks up on 17:21 so if it's something positive, she repeats it or acts it out 17:25 so what ever she's going to see that's what she?perturates? 17:29 It just depends on what we watch you know 17:31 If is something bad or something like that, you know 17:33 seriously? Outgoing things on violence, stuff like that 17:37 We try not to watch violent programs, for her 17:41 so she grows up in a nice, secure environment 17:45 I think it affects our family 17:47 because I think TV can be an inspiration to people 17:52 and also I think if 17:53 there's certain programs that they're watching 17:55 It influences their every day life 17:58 Usually like I said, I like funny things so 18:01 I don't like to cop other comedians material but 18:05 I think the comedy affects me in a positive way 18:08 I really don't see no kind of effect, you know 18:12 I just enjoy watching it! 18:15 For me I don't think so 18:16 but about the kids, probably 18:19 the kids from?Two years old? 18:25 Some of the things that are on TV concern me 18:27 but we just try to watch to make sure that whatever is on 18:31 is something that it's ok for her to watch 18:35 or something that we feel like is ok even for us as adults 18:37 there is so much trash on TV that we don't like 18:40 I think it affects us quite a bit 18:43 that's why there are things that I don't want my children to see 18:47 and sometimes is hard because my 19 year old 18:49 would be watching a program that I don't 18:51 want my smaller kids to watch 18:53 so we have some debates over that type of thing 18:57 so they have to leave the room, or whatever 19:01 unfortunately I feel like Television in general 19:05 and video games, really affected our younger people as a whole 19:10 A Lot! 19:12 but you feel so small 19:14 like: What can I possibly do to get anything changed?" 19:19 You know we would like to convince ourselves 19:22 that television does not affect our children 19:24 because there's so many things that quote: 19:26 We might like to watch" 19:28 Even thought isn't good for us, but we might like to watch it 19:32 and the children are right there 19:34 and they are watching 19:35 It's really scary to hear people talk about 19:40 How it does affect their children 19:42 and influence their children 19:44 I think it's even maybe worst 19:47 when they think it doesn't 19:50 Some people say: 19:52 "Ok, well it affects our kids" 19:53 but the others say: 19:55 " It doesn't affect my kids " I don't see. 19:57 One lady even said, I don't see that affects me, I just watch 20:01 Let me tell you right now 20:02 That's not why advertisers pay the big bucks 20:03 is because they don't think it affects you 20:06 We think it does affect you 20:08 Really if you spent with anything like this 20:09 It is going to have an effect on you 20:12 and some people have asked me: 20:14 Am I being manipulated by Television? 20:16 That really is the core issue here! 20:18 Am I being manipulated? 20:19 and the answer is: 20:21 Yeah, BIG TIME! 20:23 You are being manipulated! 20:25 Well ok, How am I being manipulated? 20:29 Let's take a look at that 20:30 Why do people go to the television? 20:32 Or to the video store 20:34 or to the let's say the theatre for that reason? 20:36 It's because they want to find something 20:38 that's going to make them laugh, 20:39 or something that is going to make them cry 20:41 something that's going to make them feel the drama of life 20:45 What is all that? 20:46 That's manipulation! 20:48 The people are looking for manipulation 20:50 they are wondering: 20:51 "How can I go and find a way to manipulate my life... 20:53 ...so I don't feel the way I am feeling right now?" 20:55 I want to feel differently 20:58 I want to be horrified,I want to laugh, I want to feel dramatic 21:01 I want to experience something other 21:04 than what real life has to offer right now 21:06 So they may have a need inside 21:09 and instead of finding the Lord's help to fill that need 21:14 or a positive help 21:16 They're just wanting to black out everything 21:19 and just be entertained? 21:22 Well, yes in part. 21:24 You know we have to first resolve the question, though 21:27 Is manipulation always a bad thing? 21:30 Manipulation basically means to move something 21:32 When you go on 3ABN, let's be honest 21:34 You are trying to manipulate somebody 21:36 You are trying to manipulate them 21:37 into considering Christ as their Savior 21:40 When you sing a song, Does that touch peoples hearts? 21:42 I hope so 21:43 If you are touching their hearts that's a form of manipulation 21:46 Really the question is not whether 21:48 manipulation is a good thing or a bad thing 21:50 or being moved, is a good thing or a bad thing 21:52 It's a question of who am I being moved by? 21:55 And what am I being moved to? 21:57 If you are being moved by Christ and the Holy Spirit, 22:00 That is the kind of movement I want 22:01 It's the kind of manipulation I want in my life 22:04 If I am being moved by the other force 22:06 and first you have to believe there's another force 22:08 If you believe there's a Satan 22:09 then you ought to believe that he wants to manipulate you 22:11 If you are being moved by government 22:13 You ought to ask what kind of government 22:14 am I being manipulated by 22:16 You need to be conscious of manipulation 22:18 Not indifferent to it! 22:20 I am sure that you have heard of these tests 22:22 and you may have heard it too. 22:24 Years ago, 22:25 and I heard this probably 15, 20 years ago, 22:29 that theatres tried this out, 22:31 while they were showing a movie 22:33 they would put the slidest I mean like 1/100 of a second 22:37 So much that the eye didn't even see it 22:40 Show some popcorn! 22:42 You are watching the movie 22:43 and you subconsciously see the popcorn 22:45 but you don't even know that you saw it. 22:47 They put in these quick little.. 22:50 Did you read that? 22:51 They put in these quick little and they would do it so often 22:53 and they tested on theatres across country 22:56 and soon as they take a break 22:58 the people would go out by the droves and eat popcorn 23:01 They didn't even know they saw any popcorn 23:03 You can only see a slight for a split second 23:05 as the movie was going 23:07 as you said while ago they saw things they didn't 23:09 this time they didn't think they saw popcorn but they really did 23:14 that it happened so fast they blended in 23:17 Now they manipulated that, and they started doing that 23:19 in theatres countries, companies all over 23:23 And they did it with sodas, with Pepsis, Cola's or whatever 23:27 So people... so they sold a lot more! 23:29 So they manipulating them for a reason 23:31 You know, what I want to know 23:33 is how do you minimize this manipulation? 23:35 Good question! 23:37 The major manipulation we experience 23:40 is not the subliminal kind that you were talking about Danny 23:43 that's out there, that takes a lot of work 23:45 and it probably has a pretty minimal effect 23:47 from the most of the studies I've read 23:49 I typically get manipulated by popcorn, 23:51 by smelling people eating popcorn 23:54 I don't know about you, but that's me. 23:55 The major manipulation that we're concerned about, I believe 23:59 as Christians, and as people who watch what's out there 24:03 is the kind of manipulation 24:04 that's very intentional and very obvious 24:07 and we need to learn how to ask intelligent questions 24:09 The major answer to stopping manipulation that you don't want 24:13 is to ask the intelligent question: 24:15 "What are they not showing me?" 24:17 "What are they not saying?" 24:18 "What are they not talking about right now" 24:21 "What are they showing me? What are they saying?" 24:23 and how this all this come into 24:25 an expression of a person's world view? 24:27 We journalists are famous for saying: 24:29 We don't have a world view, we're just trying to be 24:31 unbuyesteds reporters? 24:33 A ham, Boloney! 24:36 That is not real! 24:37 It is true. My friend is a newspaper writer 24:39 and he says: 24:40 "You know we never let the truth get in the way of a good story" 24:42 That's right! 24:44 Back in the days when I was doing TV news 24:46 The old line was: 24:47 If it bleeds it leads 24:48 we do want to move people, and we want them 24:51 to see our perspective 24:52 When I chose to take a camera out there 24:55 and talk about the city and how prosperous it is 24:58 It makes a big difference whether I showed bumps 25:01 eating out of garbage cans 25:02 or I showed people building a hire raised building down town 25:06 One shows optimism, the other one shows pessimism 25:08 Every time we show something, in media 25:11 we show it at the exclusion of showing something else 25:13 We have narrow vision 25:14 What did I choose to show you and why did I showed you that? 25:17 Unlike real life, where you just happen to see things 25:20 Television is sweated over scene by scene 25:23 In movies, frame by frame 25:26 Everything in that frame is there for a reason 25:29 is there intentionally and you ought to ask the question:"Why?" 25:32 You know, as a mother I am thinking 25:35 How powerful now is this television? 25:37 in terms of the violence we see, etcera.. 25:40 For people to actually follow it for our children to actually do 25:44 what they may have seen on the television screen 25:47 That's a good question! 25:49 How powerful is television.. 25:51 in making us follow principles that it's laying out for us 25:55 Well, again, the answer is complex folks 25:57 It's a question of.. 25:59 the magic bullet theory 26:01 Is this something that can make me do 26:03 what I otherwise would not have done? 26:05 And the answer is: " It depends " 26:08 It really depends 26:09 There's a barrage of information that hits us every day in media 26:13 and let's be honest 26:15 what typically happens as result of watching to much media 26:18 is that we become passive as opposed to active 26:21 people are more likely to get up and run out and do something 26:24 like vote, or march in the streets or pick it, or anything 26:27 They're more likely to say: 26:28 "Hmmm, I wonder what's on the next channel "... Click 26:31 That's how people become, who've watched television 26:34 So in a way they become far more passive 26:37 Now you might say: " What is the harm in that? " 26:38 Well it can be a lot of harm! 26:40 They've noticed that children who've watched a lot of violence 26:43 and become passive to violence 26:44 aren't always necessarily more likely to hit 26:46 Which is by the way statistically true, 26:49 they are more likely to hit 26:50 but more than that, 26:51 They are more likely to do nothing 26:52 when somebody else is getting hit! 26:54 They're more likely to sit back passively while somebody else 26:57 is getting clobbered! 26:59 and that can go right on up into adult life 27:01 You can remember the story of Kitty Genevies? 27:03 who has been killed in the streets of New York 27:05 and dozens of people literally watched her dying. 27:08 Didn't do a thing, didn't call anybody! 27:10 That's the kind of response, media breaths in us! 27:13 Yes it can hurt us 27:15 Not necessary by sending us into action 27:18 but seeding us out of action! 27:20 Wow! 27:21 Well coming up next 27:23 We're going to be talking with Dr. Bernell Baldwin 27:26 a brain scientist, 27:27 and he's going to be talking about children 27:29 and how they are affected by TV 27:33 So stay with us and we'll be right back! 27:42 Has your TV taken over your living room and your schedule? 27:45 Do you find that family dinner often ends up in front of TV 27:49 If so we have just the book for you! 27:51 Learn how you can tame your TV 27:53 by reading: " View at Your Own Risk " 27:55 For your free gift just write to us today at 28:02 or call during regular business hours 28:10 Ask for Up Close offer number 10! 28:24 Welcome back to 3ABN presents Up Close! 28:28 We'll be talking about Taming your TV 28:31 How does Television affect us? 28:34 Is it possible to use TV in a positive way? 28:37 Or do we have to just throw it out all together 28:40 No no no, we don't have to throw it out all together... 28:43 They're watching 3ABN right now! 28:46 I'm sure that is ok to watch 28:47 Jason's our expert, he'll tell us that 28:50 and Dr. Baldwin I hope pretty soon! 28:53 But when it comes to children and television 28:56 most of us realize that like it or not 28:59 the TV set has become the main Babysitter in America! 29:04 And with it comes also the problems! 29:06 So how much do they watch? 29:09 and once again here's what our friends have to say about this 29:13 ...in the mall 29:14 Do you have children at home? 29:16 and how many hours a day do they watch television? 29:19 Yeah, they watch TV in their room, they watch cartoons 29:22 Probably about 3 or 4 maybe 29:26 Probably.. aaa... 4 or 5 29:30 I don't know probably 5 'cause she is sleeping most of the time 29:33 She probably watches about the same amount on any given day 29:37 She's involved in sports a lot 29:39 So between going to school, 29:41 sports practice and any other games 29:44 that she may be involved in 29:46 there'll be days that she does not turn the television! 29:51 4 or 5 but they are in and out of the rooms 29:54 and they don't really concentrate on anything 29:56 Probably if they sat down and watched a program 29:59 probably it would be like 3 hours, maybe 30:03 Probably 4 or 5 hours every day 30:08 Do you supervise what your children watch? 30:13 Oh definitely, yes! 30:15 Yes I do. I don't let them watch things that are rated 30:19 not appropriate for their age group 30:22 Typically not so much 30:24 I think their mother supervises 30:26 most of their television activities 30:28 of course not anything that is passed Pd 13? 30:33 Her mom, she gets the control 30:37 but sometimes I help her, you know 30:39 Ahh,Yes I do 30:41 I usually try to get her to watch like kids programs 30:44 but, you know, usually is what we watch 30:46 Aaa, usually yes 30:48 It is mostly just cartoons and stuff, though 30:52 How old are your children? 30:54 and Do they have a television set in their room? 30:57 Yeah my daughter she has 7 years old 31:00 yeah, she watches a large TV? 31:02 I have a 9, 11 and a 19 year old 31:05 They do but it's a VCR and they can only watch tapes in there 31:10 Aaa 9, 5, 2 31:14 Yes 31:16 No. There is one in the family area which is just 31:19 down the hall from her room, that she has access to 31:23 I got one that is almost 14, 31:24 one that is almost 11 and a 2 year old 31:27 Yeah, they watch TV in their rooms they watch cartoons 31:33 That's amazing isn't it? 31:34 Yes! 31:35 You know it's interesting, because 31:37 whether not telling you in that there as we were watching 31:40 that kids by the time they have reached 18 years of age 31:44 not only seen 16000 murders 31:47 which apparently the parents weren't watching out for 31:50 that's 16000 un cut murders that your kids had to watch 31:53 but they're seen over 200.000 acts of violence 31:57 including rape and all kinds of terrible things 31:59 happening out there in the television 32:01 Did you know that most kids, the majority of kids 32:03 are not watching the same thing when mom and dad are in the room 32:06 that they are watching when mom and dad are not in the room 32:08 That is from psychological studies that had been conducted 32:12 on multiple occasions 32:14 and then when you put the television set 32:15 in the child's room 32:17 there is no supervision! 32:18 There probably is no supervision. 32:20 Let's just say this: 32:21 Putting a television set in the kids room 32:23 is a dumb idea! 32:26 And people who do it are really not using their heads 32:33 A recent report on Cnn says that 32:36 44% of the 3 year old watch 1 to 2 hours of TV each day 32:41 27% watch 3 to 4 hours and 21% watch over 5 hours each day! 32:50 and now researchers have discovered 32:53 that every hour preschoolers watch TV each day, 32:57 boost their chances of about 10% 33:01 of developing attention deficit problems 33:04 sometime later in life if not right then. 33:08 We asked the folks at the mall about this 33:11 and here is what they said. 33:15 In recent news reports, 33:16 television has been cited as causing 33:18 attention deficit disorder. 33:20 Are you concerned? 33:21 I've been watching it, yes, I've seen it so 33:25 I don't know if that, it is proven? 33:27 that kids are coming up with attention deficit disorders? 33:32 because of TVs? 33:36 I know what they watch 33:38 because I keep track of that. We don't watch much TV anyway so 33:42 No I actually haven't paid attention to it so.. 33:44 No 33:46 Yes I've seen it on TV last night. 33:49 Well one I got with attention deficit 33:52 and the other one watches as much and it doesn't affect him. 33:56 No not at this point because I don't have children at that age 34:02 and you know if I had grand children 34:04 it would make a difference 34:06 because I believe there is a lot of truth in that 34:09 you know flipping the channels, 34:11 running out when the commercials are on 34:13 I think all of those things affect, not being able to focus 34:19 on whatever they are doing 34:20 I saw that on the news the other day 34:22 I really agree with that because 34:24 because children I don't think they use their minds 34:27 and they play a lot and figure things out on their on 34:31 when they're stuck just watching TV all the time 34:34 I think they need to learn things on their own 34:36 instead of just being programmed with, you know 34:39 with what we want them to see on TV 34:41 barely I've heard limited information about that 34:47 however, since I am a psychology major I've heard that 34:52 It doesn't necessarily... It's a very small significance 34:59 correlation and 35:01 violent TV watching and violent behavior 35:04 I find it concerning but 35:06 I think ADD and ADHD 35:09 have been blown a little bit out proportion 35:13 Kids that don't have.. Have been diagnostic with it 35:15 in the recent years 35:19 but I think that it is concerning 35:23 Not really because I feel like is probably more 35:25 cartoon type programs that would cause that 35:28 because everything is so quick 35:30 changes very fast 35:33 So my kids are allowed to watch, like SESAMES STREET 35:37 and nogen? programs 35:38 things that are more geared towards learning 35:41 and not the programs that were cartoons and things like that 35:45 and that is what we're doing with the grand baby too 35:47 Just trying to keep her away from cartoons 35:50 and more on learning type things 35:53 I've heard that before 35:55 I don't know how factual that is 35:57 I've got to take your word for it 35:59 Definitely if it was proven then 36:01 I would probably limit their television even more 36:05 Amazing responses there! 36:08 Yes! 36:09 You know it sound like 36:10 if it's a programs where children learn something 36:12 then we are not going to worry about it 36:15 and yet some programs like Sesames Street 36:17 is very fragmented, like you mentioned 36:20 which is one of the manipulation techniques 36:23 That's correct! 36:25 And I think it's interesting, Danny to contrast that 36:28 with the programming that is being done on 3ABN for children 36:32 Tony Tots, Kids Time. 36:34 Watch the segments! 36:37 They are not fragmented segments! 36:40 and I think that is really very important to realize 36:43 I think if they have jumped out of this 36:44 to my mind was the idea that 36:46 everybody that we just saw 36:48 thought that it was somebody else's kid that was being hurt 36:50 yes! 36:51 and the fact is that 36:53 We all have to take a close look at ourselves! 36:54 I mean somebody's kid out there 36:56 is that average kid who is seeing 36:58 200.000 acts of violence including rape and murder 37:03 and 16.000 murders by the time they're 18. 37:06 18.000 by the time they're leaving elementary school 37:10 and that is going to have an effect 37:12 wherever you meet it is going to have an effect 37:14 kids are being affected by what they see 37:17 the consumers now what the people who sell 37:19 Are consumers items know it? 37:21 Time parents know it too 37:22 Parents do that because 37:24 I've noticed myself that I've never seen a parent say: 37:28 "My kid is a bad influence on other ones" 37:30 They always say: 37:31 "There friends had been a bad influence on them" 37:33 They hang around bad friends! 37:35 Have you ever heard the one say: My kid is messing up other kids? 37:39 You know we always think it's ours... 37:41 I hate to interrupt you... but we can let you go on 37:44 but you know what? 37:45 I've got a friend who's a real expert in this area 37:49 Dr Baldwin is here with us 37:52 and I think it might be really great 37:53 if we bring him on right now 37:56 and hear from the expert explain to us 38:02 about all this research, and ADD Attention Deficit Disorder 38:06 Dr. Baldwin is a brain scientist 38:10 Yes. Now I got a helper here under this cap 38:14 a name of the human brain 38:15 Now this is a... professional 38:18 model is nothing style form 38:21 about this and if you bought it you would for sure know it 38:24 Here comes the brain out of the boney box 38:27 There it is, 3, 5 pounds currently? 38:31 In X? was bigger 38:35 3.5 pounds is 118 grams! Heavier in man than it is in women 38:40 Now let's take a look at it, inside 38:42 In front we have 2 eyes 38:44 and we have a million living wires 38:46 from each eye that go to the brain 38:49 This is why the eyes are the major avenue to the soul 38:57 Inside the brain, here's the way the brain is put together 39:02 and the information comes to the back of the head 39:05 where you psychically see 39:08 17, 18, 19... 39:10 under my fingers... There! 39:12 That's where you psychically see 39:16 well you mentally see when other wires 39:21 go from the back of the head to the side of the head 39:24 ...here! 39:27 That's where the mind gets to work on it 39:29 Now the spiritual faculties they're in front 39:32 and one of these called the will 39:36 is under my fingers... there! 39:39 Is proven by a German neurologist 39:42 after the First World War 39:44 now I would like to make a distinction 39:47 the media are trying to manipulate 39:50 but your will is in charge of your brain! 39:55 and so if you're in Nazareth the environment can be terrible 40:01 but you can come out of it because of the Will! 40:06 so the name of the game is really persuasion! 40:10 not just manipulation 40:12 so we can choose to see 3ABN 40:15 Instead of the Junk Company Incorporated 40:20 this can really make a difference 40:22 big difference indeed! 40:23 You mentioned the young brain 40:27 here's some news about that 40:29 the basic circuits in the brain are jelled 40:33 the circuit is an electronic wheel 40:36 this is gelled when the child is 3 years of age 40:42 so if the child instead of being on mother's lap 40:47 in daddies tool box 40:49 in mother's kitchen 40:51 in the sand box making things doing things 40:55 exploring the real world 40:58 see, that has touch, sound, sight, feeling, experience 41:05 they become passive like you say 41:07 back on you 100% 41:09 so instead... 41:10 Praise the Lord! 41:12 Instead of developing a passive brain 41:15 what we want to do is to grow up curiosity 41:20 person hood 41:21 We want them to decide and to do things 41:25 and to grew up naturally instead of 41:27 becoming a... funnel? 41:30 We would like them to be more filtered? in their capacity 41:34 and more choosing 41:36 Ramon Cahall a famous Spanish brain scientist showed 41:39 that the wires that go from the brain are to the retina 41:43 so people see what they want to see 41:46 ask the neighbors 41:48 People hear what they want to hear 41:51 ask your enemies 41:53 Then how this really affects the child sitting there and watching 41:57 How would a child be different who watched a lot of television 42:01 versus a child who was able to touch things and... 42:06 What would the difference be? 42:08 DRAMATIC! 42:10 The frontal eye fields are right there, 42:12 under my finger, in the circle 42:14 in health, the frontal eye fields, guide the eye. 42:21 They shape the visual experience 42:25 but in television 42:26 what the establishment wants 42:29 is for witch of our brains to become a funnel? 42:32 They pour the commercials in the top 42:34 and the money comes out of the bottom 42:37 This is what they're after 42:40 And it's working! 42:41 YES! 42:42 What do they pay for a half of 30 seconds to super bowl? 42:47 I don't know but I know what they saw 42:48 in those 30 seconds in the Super bowl 42:50 Like a few million or something like that, dollars 42:52 just for 30 seconds 42:53 Yes, but now here's some ways that I am sure people are 42:58 on to it when you put the Bible on television 43:01 and people are reading the text 43:04 You know 43:05 For God so loved the World 43:08 This is entirely different than the frontal? business 43:12 because you're reading 43:14 and you're hearing 43:15 and if we encourage people to read the Bible 43:18 when we're speaking to them and when we are explaining to them 43:21 this will also help 43:22 another thing that helps is this: 43:24 Balance, moderation and may I use the term horse sense? 43:33 you know... 43:34 Common horse sense 43:35 You've been telling about children 43:36 but what's the difference between what children watch 43:38 and what parents should watch? 43:41 ...of the effect that it has on them 43:43 Oh in the brain? It is very simple... 43:44 The brain is plastic 43:46 and a lady brain scientist Buckley Diamond 43:49 Dr Diamond showed that you can grow 43:51 better, longer dendrites until you are 92 years of age! 43:57 So the brain is always plastic 44:00 .. Is always plastic and it could be modified 44:03 but the most plasticity is before 3 years of age 44:08 so to dump Babylon into the brain before 3 years of age 44:13 is a Catastrophe! 44:15 In plain English! 44:17 Ok, Thank You! 44:18 Wow, in just a moment we're going to find out 44:21 what our live audience thinks about this 44:25 and we're going to take their questions so... 44:27 Stay with us we'll be right back! 44:37 Next Week on Up Close 44:39 We're going to be talking about the fall out 44:42 that comes from divorce 44:44 I spent a lot of time crying, of course 44:49 and mourning 44:50 the loss of not just a marriage but my whole life 44:54 You heard her say she was angry with God for a time 44:58 It was pretty uncomfortable not knowing 44:59 whether to get up and say hello 45:02 So what do people do? They say I am not going to go 45:06 anywhere where God would be pleased to see me 45:09 Next week on Up Close 45:11 Recovering from the Pain of Divorce 45:13 Don't miss it! 45:28 Welcome back to 3ABN presents Up Close 45:31 Our Topic today is taming your TV! 45:34 We've heard about how powerful television is 45:38 ...how many hours the average viewer is watching 45:41 and even about news studies on the relationship between 45:44 TV and attention Deficit Disorders 45:47 in our children and in our youth! 45:50 but right now we want to open up the program 45:53 for questions from pure audience 45:55 I think we have some good ones! 45:57 We do we have a young lady out here 45:58 Can you give us your name honey? 46:01 Hi my name is Chilean Nolan... 46:02 and my question is: 46:05 Do you consider TV a peer 46:09 pressure? Do we consider TV to be a Peer pressure? 46:11 You know that is a good question 46:13 and peer pressure is a good name for television 46:17 television doesn't necessarily forces to do things 46:21 but it suggests things just like peer pressure does in school 46:24 and at some times it helps us to reinforce ideas that we may have 46:30 and so for instance: 46:31 It was media that really helped Hitler 46:34 to get the German people to go and attack the Jews 46:38 All right? 46:39 If you ever studied that in school you'll learn that 46:42 So did that mean that he made them do it? 46:45 Not really folks he didn't make them do it 46:47 anti-Semitism went way back in German history 46:50 but he suggested ways to do it 46:52 and he intensified the anti-Semitic feelings so... 46:56 Yes, I think peer pressure 46:57 is an excellent choice of words for television! 47:01 Okay! 47:02 All right, well we have another question 47:04 and give us your name and where are you from 47:07 My name is Zeola Austin? and I am from Huntsville Alabama 47:10 All right we're happy that you are here, what is your question? 47:13 retired teacher?has taught a number of these ADD children 47:16 since we have so many of them in the classroom now 47:20 my question is: 47:22 Should not our classrooms be structured to 47:25 include them, in our classroom, in our studies 47:29 rather then holding them in a classroom from 2 to 3 hours 47:34 at a time and trying to make them sit still? 47:38 I think I am going to refer? that one to you Dr Baldwin 47:41 About Attention Deficit Disorder 47:44 One: There are many causes 47:47 Two: We only know a few of them. 47:50 Television make a contribution of this because 47:54 of short-circuiting normal development 47:56 but to hang all the 47:59 Attention Deficit problems in America on Television 48:02 would be a mistake. 48:05 Certainly. There's a lot of epigenetic 48:08 There's a lot of genetics involved 48:10 There's a lot of mental issues involved 48:13 There's a lot of chemical and electronic issues involved 48:16 so we shouldn't scapegoat the problem. 48:20 None the less, if, particularly boys, and girls 48:24 if they have this problem... 48:26 Who else is there? 48:27 What? 48:28 Boys and girls... Excuse me. 48:31 Men and Women! 48:33 Thank you Kay! 48:35 Because adults have it now, too! 48:38 Oh, all right I'm in it. I got it 48:40 What they need is action to put the brain back together again 48:46 You see? 48:47 Gardening, building things, making things, doing things, 48:52 going places, instead of sitting and having 48:55 cellulose packed into their brains! 48:59 So active classrooms, a lot of gardening... 49:02 Out of the classroom! 49:05 Yes get out and do something use your hands and all that, 49:08 she is saying. 49:10 Don't count Washington and big bucks to solve this problem 49:13 Like it! 49:14 All right We have another question. 49:16 Give us your name please 49:17 Malcolm mcgreles? from Road mountain Tennessee 49:20 Good, we're glad you're here! 49:23 One of the annoyances on a personal level for me 49:27 is background music that is being played 49:30 during, like commercials 49:32 and other activities in radio and television, 49:35 more probably on radio then television. 49:37 I just wondered why they do this? 49:41 That it a good question! 49:42 The reason we do that is because 49:44 we want to suggest to you that you feel good about our product 49:47 that we're moving, so when we have Kodak film 49:50 We're not going to say: Isn't Kodak film nice? 49:53 doesn't it make a lovely picture with a high quality shoot? 49:56 We want you to say: 49:58 When I use Kodak, it reminds me of our family reunion 50:02 eating watermelon and those nice kids down the block 50:05 we used to ride bikes with. 50:07 and they can do that 50:08 by suggesting music that takes you there! 50:10 Okay so they naturally once again manipulation to 50:14 make you feel good about their product 50:17 Danny you have a much better chance of moving the product 50:20 If a person feels good when they're seeing the product 50:23 They wont even remember what the product has going for 50:26 on an intellectual basis but 50:27 they'll now that when they saw that product on television 50:30 they felt good. 50:31 So when you see the logo name 50:33 you have this wave of feeling that comes over you. 50:36 All right. Good 50:37 All right, Thank You. 50:38 Next Question. 50:39 Yes, my name is Vanessa Harvey 50:41 and How powerful is the media? 50:44 Can it have effects on us that we would otherwise do? 50:46 Make us do other things? 50:49 I like that question, well, 50:51 it makes you do things that you wouldn't have done otherwise? 50:54 Well sometimes media is 50:56 projected to be the sort of magic bullet 51:01 that when they shoot it off, 51:02 you'll do anything they suggest to you 51:05 But they found during World War 2 51:06 that it was impossible to teach people to do things 51:09 they were not opened at least a little bit. 51:11 For instance, you can't make Jews hate Jews. 51:14 You can make Germans hate Jews 51:16 if they have some disposition to do that, 51:19 but if a person has any openness suggestion does play a huge part 51:23 and so does the reinforcement that comes after that suggestion 51:30 Ok, Dr Baldwin Do you any comments to that 51:32 about the manipulation, or about the question she just asked? 51:37 Yes, Next! 51:41 That means You covered that well, Jason! 51:44 That's what that means! 51:45 Ok, all right we have a young man here 51:47 What's your name and where are you from son? 51:49 I'm James Garner and I'm from Kensal Georgia 51:52 and I just want to know some good ways of choosing 51:55 my programs that I watch on TV? 51:56 A good question! 51:58 That's one I was hoping somebody would ask, here 52:00 What you don't want to do 52:01 let's start with that! 52:02 Don't make your decision 52:04 while you are flipping through the channels! 52:05 Don't make your decision before you've taken time 52:07 to think about your decision. 52:09 Study the program! 52:10 Before you let your kids watch the program 52:12 Don't take TV guides word for it Watch it with them 52:14 before you let them sit there and watch programs 52:17 without your attendance in the future. 52:19 Another thing: 52:20 Write down your values! 52:21 Now I'll tell you what my values are 52:22 My values can be found in the Word Of God 52:24 So I take the Big Ten right, The Ten Commandments 52:26 and think about 52:28 Does this Television program 52:30 extend my values to my children or to my life 52:34 if it's not I don't think I'd watch it. 52:35 Makes sure that the values you believe in 52:38 are being promoted by the television program 52:40 that you're choosing to watch. 52:42 Another thing: 52:43 Make sure that you ask questions 52:44 now you may be saying: 52:45 "I am too tired to ask questions when I am watching Television" 52:49 Then don't watch TV! 52:51 It's a big THA, moment! 52:53 If you don't want to be manipulated 52:55 Then don't watch it when you are tired! 52:57 because when you are tired you are going to be manipulated 52:59 a lot more easily than if you are awake 53:01 and alert and asking questions. 53:03 Don't watch television programs that 53:05 try to fragment reality so much, that even if you are awake 53:09 and conscious there is no way to keeping pace with the image rate 53:12 and the suggestion 53:15 to be able to understand that imagery and suggestion. 53:18 and finally: 53:19 I would say: 53:20 Don't assume that the television program you're watching 53:24 has no agenda. 53:25 It has an agenda! 53:27 Ask yourself whether if it's your agenda, 53:29 whether it matches up with Gods agenda 53:31 if you're a Christian. 53:32 If it doesn't, shove it! 53:36 Well we only have a couple minutes left 53:38 and what we like to do is maybe ask you each for? 53:41 so some final thoughts 53:42 on this program today Jason let's start with you. 53:45 One of the things we haven't talked about is 53:47 the good that Television can do 53:49 One of the good things that Television can do is 53:51 that it can present to you in just a few moments 53:53 with a wide variety of educational topics 53:57 In 2 minutes of television 53:58 you can learn more than some people can learn 54:00 in 20 years of reading books, 54:02 and so Television is a powerful medium 54:05 if used correctly, it should be used! 54:08 Another thing that we ought to notice about Television is 54:11 is that When you are watching TV 54:14 is important to watch things 54:16 that vary with your world view. 54:19 so if you are a democrat 54:21 watch things that are put out by republicans as well. 54:23 If you are a republican 54:24 watch things that are put out by democrats 54:26 If you are an American 54:27 try to listen to the BBC once in a while 54:29 If you are listening to the BBC try to see what's out here. 54:32 Vary your media input so that 54:34 one channel, one set of minds 54:36 aren't making all the suggestions to you 54:38 finally I want to say something one last little piece? 54:42 Look, not everything in the Bible 54:44 is appropriate for your child to read. 54:46 I would suggest not going to the Book of Judges right away. 54:49 There are some stories in there that 54:50 if they were rated in television would be NC 17 54:53 and they're described in a way that you don't want 54:55 your child to hear. 54:56 Time and place needs to come into place 54:58 There are things that are rated are!? 55:00 out there in Television land, or in the movies 55:02 this is Schindler's List 55:04 witch would probably would be helpful for a collage student 55:07 trying to learn about the Holocaust 55:09 and to teach people not to repeat the sins of the Holocaust 55:13 they are not appropriate for kindergartners to see 55:16 so make sure that you take into consideration 55:19 Time, Place, and Audience Choose Wisely! 55:23 Ok. All right. Dr. Baldwin? 55:25 Yes. 55:27 I like his point of the ten big pillars? 55:32 The TEN COMMANDMENTS 55:34 Beautiful! 55:35 Last forever! 55:37 Another thing along the same line, is: 55:39 Is Philippians 4-8 55:41 What so ever things are true, and honest. 55:44 The things that are beautiful and noble 55:47 enduring and will put excellence into your family 55:51 instead of: Babylon! 55:55 Good idea! 55:56 Ok. Very good 55:57 We want to thank both of you for being here 56:00 Jason Seiber 56:01 Dr. Bernell Baldwin 56:03 and we'll be back in just a moment 56:06 with some closing thoughts. 56:07 So stay with us! 56:16 Has your TV taken over your living room and your schedule? 56:20 Do you find that family dinner often ends up in front of TV? 56:24 If so we have just the book for you! Learn how 56:26 you can tame your TV by reading: "View at Your Own Risk" 56:30 For your free gift just write to us today at Up Close 56:33 PO Box 220 West Frankfort, IL 62896 56:36 or call during regular business hours 56:39 1-800-752-3226 or 618-627-4651 56:45 Ask for Up Close Offer number 10! 57:00 Welcome back! 57:01 We just wanted to give a final thought, 57:04 a closing thought I believe 57:05 and I think Kay, you're a doctor 57:07 and your specialty is child development, right? 57:12 What do you think about 57:13 what you've seen here today and heard? 57:15 I'm excited about what I've heard! 57:18 because we didn't just condemned the media 57:21 which so often happens 57:23 but we said let's take a really good look 57:25 at what our children are watching 57:27 at what we're watching 57:28 because our children will basically watch 57:30 what we're watching! 57:32 And I think when we take that choice, that will 57:36 the Doctor Baldwin talked about 57:38 and make a good choice, 57:40 we can be better people because of it! 57:44 So what we want to do is prepare our children 57:47 not only our children but ourselves for eternity 57:49 by taking in the good things, there is 57:51 pure and lovely and truth 57:52 and those are spiritual things of course! 57:55 Well our time is all gone for today 57:57 and until we see you next time 57:58 May the Lord richly Bless you, 57:59 abundantly more then you could ever ask, 58:02 or think! |
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