Reaching the World 00:00:04.24\00:00:06.32 Embracing the community 00:00:08.21\00:00:10.13 Touching Lives 00:00:11.45\00:00:13.57 Shelley Quinn 00:00:14.07\00:00:16.47 Don Mackintosh 00:00:16.87\00:00:17.84 Kay Kuzma 00:00:17.85\00:00:20.02 UP CLOSE 00:00:20.22\00:00:23.36 Hello Everyone, and welcome again 00:00:25.38\00:00:26.76 to another 3ABN presence Up Close 00:00:26.79\00:00:28.92 We are coming to you today from Calhoun Georgia 00:00:29.06\00:00:31.32 It's beautiful down here, isn't it? 00:00:31.36\00:00:32.70 It certainly is! 00:00:32.73\00:00:33.70 This is South! It's beautiful. 00:00:33.71\00:00:35.44 from the Seventh Day Adventist Church 00:00:35.48\00:00:36.91 and we have a live audience, 00:00:37.00\00:00:37.97 and we want to welcome each and every one of you. 00:00:37.98\00:00:40.11 Thank you for coming today! 00:00:40.14\00:00:41.75 We have some tremendous topic 00:00:42.36\00:00:43.85 I believe a very important topic that were discussing today 00:00:43.89\00:00:47.15 We sure do! 00:00:47.18\00:00:48.15 Today we're going to be talking about: 00:00:48.16\00:00:49.84 " How to tame your TV "? 00:00:49.94\00:00:51.93 For many years now 00:00:52.29\00:00:53.49 television has been changing the way we communicate 00:00:53.52\00:00:56.39 the things we buy and the things we believe. 00:00:56.53\00:00:59.81 But here are some statistics Danny 00:01:00.11\00:01:02.57 that should make your blood run cold 00:01:03.10\00:01:05.38 According to the Ac Nielsen Company, the 00:01:05.69\00:01:08.08 average American watches more than 4 hours of TV each day 00:01:08.11\00:01:12.79 now that's 28 hours a week or 2 months of non stop watching 00:01:13.41\00:01:17.74 over the course of one year! 00:01:17.77\00:01:20.16 The average person then, would have spent the equivalent 00:01:20.96\00:01:23.95 of 9 years of watching TV by the time they're 65 years of age 00:01:24.65\00:01:30.52 That's Terrible! 00:01:30.55\00:01:31.52 I mean 9 years! 00:01:31.53\00:01:32.51 That's unbelievable! 00:01:32.55\00:01:33.71 You might be asking yourself: 00:01:34.19\00:01:35.57 " What is it that keeps us glued to the set? " 00:01:35.61\00:01:38.54 Well, violence for one 00:01:38.74\00:01:40.42 By the time the average American child reaches 18 years of age 00:01:41.06\00:01:45.98 They would have witnessed 00:01:46.33\00:01:47.43 between 16.000 and 40.000 murderers on TV! 00:01:47.53\00:01:51.63 Recently we sent our cameras to a local mall 00:01:52.23\00:01:55.42 to find out if these statistics are really true. 00:01:55.45\00:01:58.61 And they came back with some disturbing answers 00:01:59.45\00:02:02.66 Here is what the people are saying 00:02:02.69\00:02:04.43 and remember we have a tendency to underestimate 00:02:04.58\00:02:08.96 the time we spend watching television 00:02:08.99\00:02:12.00 Yes 00:02:12.20\00:02:13.17 How much television do you watch each day? 00:02:15.46\00:02:17.63 I would say probably about 2 hours 00:02:19.80\00:02:24.39 About 3 00:02:24.89\00:02:25.97 Oh, probably about 5 hours 00:02:26.28\00:02:28.18 Maybe a couple of hours, 00:02:28.95\00:02:29.92 maybe popping a movie and that's about it. 00:02:29.93\00:02:31.28 I would say maybe at least 00:02:31.49\00:02:33.88 at least about 3 hours, a day. 00:02:35.75\00:02:36.96 I probably don't even watch 15 minutes a day 00:02:37.08\00:02:39.55 I'll check the weather in the morning and that's about it. 00:02:39.60\00:02:41.85 I'm pretty much busy with work 00:02:41.88\00:02:43.78 I go to the gym 00:02:43.81\00:02:44.78 I watch about an hour worth of TV a day 00:02:45.73\00:02:47.98 I usually watch about an hour of TV a day. 00:02:48.61\00:02:51.07 probably 1 to 3 hours, depending on the giving day 00:02:52.12\00:02:55.20 I watch probably 1 hour and a half, 2 hours every day 00:02:55.86\00:03:00.27 Personally, probably about 3 hours 00:03:00.64\00:03:03.16 Almost all day actually 00:03:03.96\00:03:05.12 cause she goes to work and I am at home 00:03:05.16\00:03:07.44 Do you have a standard of what not to watch? 00:03:10.00\00:03:13.54 we don't like shows with, you know 00:03:15.05\00:03:17.22 bad language and things like that in it 00:03:17.26\00:03:18.63 because we don't use that in our home 00:03:19.73\00:03:20.96 and we don't want her to hear that 00:03:20.99\00:03:22.19 We try to keep it clean, and you know, family type shows 00:03:23.83\00:03:28.73 No, not really 00:03:29.26\00:03:30.52 I'll extend up comedy when I have time 00:03:30.76\00:03:32.52 I like to watch MTV, Music Videos stuff like that 00:03:33.78\00:03:36.39 sometimes movies 00:03:36.89\00:03:37.86 With the kids I don't really want them to watch like 00:03:39.03\00:03:41.52 violence or like scary movies or stuff like that 00:03:41.72\00:03:44.57 so they can't watch that 00:03:44.60\00:03:45.81 Not for the kids 00:03:46.01\00:03:47.59 For myself I watch anything that I think is suitable 00:03:48.76\00:03:51.55 Action movies, and stuff like that 00:03:52.81\00:03:54.28 Personally, anything with anyone gay I don't usually watch so.. 00:03:55.42\00:03:58.03 cause... I am not like that so.. 00:03:59.13\00:04:01.64 I am really tired of violence and 00:04:02.34\00:04:04.31 things that I don't feel that are appropriate for my kids 00:04:05.51\00:04:08.62 Not really, I'm pretty open 00:04:09.40\00:04:11.56 Like I said I pretty much limit just 00:04:12.16\00:04:14.18 sports and the premium channels. 00:04:14.21\00:04:15.60 We only watch certain programs 00:04:16.20\00:04:17.93 like MTV, and certain things that are usually for little kids 00:04:19.14\00:04:22.23 I don't watch, no. 00:04:22.26\00:04:23.23 I don't like a lot of violence 00:04:23.66\00:04:25.08 and lot of sex definitely I like? or not? 00:04:25.43\00:04:26.80 No, I usually... I watch everything 00:04:27.21\00:04:29.86 No I really wouldn't say so 00:04:30.52\00:04:31.71 I mean, if something catches my eyes and if it's interesting 00:04:31.75\00:04:34.36 I might as watch it for a little bit see if it's interesting 00:04:34.46\00:04:36.69 If not, flip it or whatever 00:04:36.72\00:04:38.45 The channels that we get are basically 00:04:39.27\00:04:41.87 about any family channel 00:04:41.97\00:04:43.94 I can't thing of any shows off hand that we wouldn't watch 00:04:46.26\00:04:49.06 We don't much care for the MTV type shows 00:04:49.09\00:04:52.65 or some of the new comedy that's out. 00:04:54.36\00:04:56.17 but basically we just like watching 00:04:57.64\00:04:59.75 a lot of the Discovery channels History channels 00:04:59.87\00:05:02.14 Those types of shows 00:05:02.17\00:05:03.86 Ok, well... 00:05:05.01\00:05:06.10 ...very interesting to hear the range of how many... 00:05:06.20\00:05:08.14 and I think probably 00:05:08.85\00:05:10.59 You said a while ago 00:05:10.69\00:05:11.66 This actually show that we watch more than what we think we do 00:05:11.70\00:05:14.71 That's pretty scary! 00:05:15.10\00:05:16.07 Of course we want them to watch 3ABN 00:05:16.13\00:05:18.35 That's right 00:05:18.45\00:05:19.42 We'll be talking about that, I am sure, in a little bit 00:05:19.43\00:05:21.20 It's not that television is wrong 00:05:21.55\00:05:23.94 It's just the choices: "How much time we're spending?" 00:05:24.54\00:05:27.01 as the people said 00:05:27.22\00:05:28.78 and what you're putting into your mind 00:05:29.18\00:05:30.75 Yeah, and what you're putting into your mind! 00:05:30.78\00:05:32.20 Well our guest today is Jason Seiber 00:05:32.30\00:05:34.40 He's a former TV news reporter 00:05:34.53\00:05:36.24 who has spent a lot of time 00:05:36.34\00:05:38.10 looking into the effects of television on our lives. 00:05:38.20\00:05:41.92 He's covered stories as wide ranging as 00:05:41.95\00:05:44.30 The death of Princess Diana 00:05:44.33\00:05:45.83 and the average boring City Council meeting 00:05:45.87\00:05:48.17 I'm not sure somebody would like that somewhere, but 00:05:48.21\00:05:50.48 if you've been in city council meetings some of them are 00:05:50.51\00:05:53.27 ...important Maybe necessary 00:05:53.53\00:05:55.03 but he's here to share with us 00:05:55.06\00:05:56.53 some of the basic TV taming principles 00:05:56.63\00:05:58.92 Please make him welcome at this time 00:05:59.10\00:06:00.97 Come on up, Jason 00:06:01.07\00:06:02.17 How are you? 00:06:06.96\00:06:07.93 Tell us a little bit about yourself 00:06:11.65\00:06:13.21 You worked in communications, 00:06:13.24\00:06:15.39 Do you have a degree in communications? 00:06:15.45\00:06:17.35 Yes I do 00:06:17.38\00:06:18.73 I have a lot of degrees in a lot of different areas 00:06:18.77\00:06:21.62 I have a degree in History 00:06:21.65\00:06:22.74 but one of my degrees is a Bachelor Degree in Journalism 00:06:22.78\00:06:24.80 with emphases in broadcast 00:06:25.10\00:06:27.17 Ok! 00:06:27.34\00:06:28.31 and I have been to the Cemetery 00:06:28.32\00:06:29.29 Seminary 00:06:29.30\00:06:30.94 I believe that it is possible to be born again! 00:06:32.78\00:06:35.01 Well good, That is wonderful! 00:06:36.50\00:06:38.19 I am glad we are learning that. 00:06:38.23\00:06:39.89 Jason being in this field 00:06:39.99\00:06:42.10 Why do you think people are watching so much television? 00:06:42.14\00:06:44.62 Watching television really is a pretty basic instinct 00:06:44.91\00:06:47.73 our lives are stressful, we come home tired 00:06:48.11\00:06:50.37 we're looking forward to doing something different 00:06:50.60\00:06:52.38 and television gives us a chance to tune out 00:06:52.41\00:06:54.65 and not only tune out 00:06:54.68\00:06:55.94 but tune into something that 00:06:55.98\00:06:56.99 you don't have to think in order to enjoy 00:06:57.09\00:06:59.15 It's fast 00:06:59.26\00:07:00.79 It's easy 00:07:00.89\00:07:01.86 It entertains 00:07:01.89\00:07:03.46 It makes life seen a little less pressing 00:07:03.61\00:07:05.94 and it's probably the most basic drug 00:07:06.04\00:07:09.08 the average American uses these days 00:07:09.18\00:07:10.86 A Drug... Interesting 00:07:11.17\00:07:12.60 What goes in into making this powerful television programming? 00:07:13.64\00:07:17.69 What goes into it is a really basic process 00:07:19.08\00:07:21.57 of manipulation 00:07:23.35\00:07:24.41 the idea is that 00:07:24.51\00:07:25.79 before we move your mind into television 00:07:25.83\00:07:27.75 we really want to move your heart 00:07:27.81\00:07:29.34 and even though you like to... 00:07:30.34\00:07:32.29 Some of us have actually talked about the indifferent news rooms 00:07:32.33\00:07:36.07 How do we actually reach the mind 00:07:36.31\00:07:37.62 but there is not a lot of time to reach your mind 00:07:37.82\00:07:39.31 Just think about how much time... 00:07:39.63\00:07:40.88 News is my area of specialties 00:07:41.28\00:07:43.09 so let's take a look at that for just a moment 00:07:43.19\00:07:44.75 News is sort of instant entertainment in many ways 00:07:44.90\00:07:47.64 So what we have is basically 00:07:48.18\00:07:49.85 about 15 minutes of news time, some of that 00:07:50.98\00:07:52.47 has to go to sports some of that has to go to weather 00:07:53.11\00:07:55.14 so when you really break it down 00:07:55.24\00:07:56.45 you have about 10 minutes to move the days news 00:07:56.55\00:07:59.05 Now you have 5 reporters 00:07:59.38\00:08:00.35 who have veined? up for that 10 minutes 00:08:00.38\00:08:01.82 so it's going to cut it down to a maximum of 2 minutes of time 00:08:01.96\00:08:04.81 for the average reporter 00:08:05.24\00:08:06.27 and you're going to be lucky if you get that 00:08:06.37\00:08:07.39 a minute and a half is considered generous in my field 00:08:07.49\00:08:10.58 The process is the sound 00:08:12.86\00:08:14.53 You want to start off with the sound 00:08:14.63\00:08:16.05 of the person that is going to be talking 00:08:16.23\00:08:18.14 and as soon as you do that 00:08:18.57\00:08:19.94 you lay those sound bytes down 00:08:20.04\00:08:21.45 You go underneath that 00:08:22.59\00:08:23.68 and you lay down the most important layer 00:08:23.78\00:08:25.96 I should say the second most important layer 00:08:26.03\00:08:28.11 So you're going to lay that layer down which is 00:08:28.45\00:08:29.89 Your natural sound 00:08:29.99\00:08:31.18 Your natural sound is going to begin the major process 00:08:31.22\00:08:33.99 of influencing the mind 00:08:34.02\00:08:35.85 If I lay down natural sound 00:08:35.90\00:08:37.83 that has an homonymous character to it 00:08:37.93\00:08:39.65 I am telling you that I am expressing danger 00:08:39.72\00:08:41.76 and doesn't matter what you're seeing 00:08:42.20\00:08:44.12 as long as you're hearing that scary natural sound 00:08:44.22\00:08:46.53 you are going to be moved by it. 00:08:46.64\00:08:47.61 So whether is music or whether is some sound of river water 00:08:47.62\00:08:52.78 whatever it may be 00:08:52.81\00:08:53.88 try to give that natural sound in there 00:08:53.96\00:08:55.28 The next layer is going to be a layer of sight 00:08:55.32\00:08:57.77 now, as much as possible 00:08:58.47\00:08:59.44 I am going to try to keep your talking head of? 00:08:59.45\00:09:01.90 You will have some visual contact that will set you up 00:09:01.99\00:09:04.58 but as soon as we can cut away from that 00:09:04.61\00:09:06.00 and go and show you something that corresponds 00:09:06.04\00:09:08.42 to what that person is saying, the better. 00:09:08.45\00:09:10.76 Then again I'll have another opportunity to manipulate 00:09:10.80\00:09:13.74 So, if you are saying one thing 00:09:13.77\00:09:15.57 so, for instance 00:09:15.60\00:09:16.58 You have your average city? say: 00:09:16.74\00:09:18.65 I think we are doing a good job with homelessness 00:09:18.69\00:09:21.32 but I cut away while he is talking about that 00:09:21.83\00:09:23.76 and I show a homeless guy reaching in the garbage can 00:09:23.80\00:09:26.97 What have I just said? 00:09:27.50\00:09:28.47 You just destroyed everything. 00:09:28.48\00:09:29.45 I called him a lair 00:09:29.46\00:09:30.63 and nobody even thinks about that 00:09:30.74\00:09:32.11 that's why the city council men are sometimes 00:09:32.15\00:09:34.06 a little bit hesitant to talk to us 00:09:34.16\00:09:35.79 We have a love-hate relationship 00:09:35.89\00:09:37.09 The final piece is 00:09:38.13\00:09:39.75 something that was developed by a guy named Eisenstein 00:09:39.85\00:09:43.17 Sergey Eisenstein 00:09:43.23\00:09:44.20 Great Russian filmmaker 00:09:44.42\00:09:45.39 prior to him 00:09:45.40\00:09:46.37 people used to show everything that went into the film 00:09:46.38\00:09:49.65 so when you were making film 00:09:50.01\00:09:50.98 If you've showed a man getting tied up 00:09:50.99\00:09:52.50 You'd show the entire man being tied up 00:09:52.54\00:09:54.06 As in Edison great film: "The Great Train Robbery" 00:09:54.59\00:09:57.08 After a while they figured out that was poor use of time 00:09:57.46\00:09:59.77 So they begun to fragment time 00:09:59.92\00:10:01.53 And that's really where we've gone after that 00:10:01.63\00:10:03.29 So you show a small portion of the activity 00:10:03.49\00:10:06.75 and you fragment it 00:10:06.85\00:10:07.82 Now we've been becoming 00:10:08.32\00:10:09.29 more and more fragmented all the time Kay 00:10:09.30\00:10:11.63 So if you watch the extreme into that 00:10:11.72\00:10:13.46 you'll be watching the fragmented reality of.. 00:10:13.56\00:10:15.61 MTV! 00:10:16.68\00:10:17.76 MTV would have probably about half a second of time 00:10:17.80\00:10:21.18 or less 00:10:21.29\00:10:22.26 for you to digest the picture. 00:10:22.27\00:10:24.29 Why do they do that? 00:10:24.49\00:10:25.73 This is the nub of what makes television powerful 00:10:25.93\00:10:29.76 The reason they do that is Number one: 00:10:30.31\00:10:32.32 They keep you off your feet mentally 00:10:32.44\00:10:34.40 You are going to be accepting thinks 00:10:34.72\00:10:36.36 on a consumer basis 00:10:37.38\00:10:39.33 as a person who is being forced fed 00:10:40.42\00:10:42.07 You don't have time to think about the images 00:10:42.35\00:10:44.27 You give up 00:10:44.91\00:10:45.88 and you just start accepting 00:10:45.89\00:10:47.12 that makes your emotional response stronger 00:10:47.50\00:10:49.09 that's going to sell my advertisements 00:10:49.12\00:10:50.38 Number two: 00:10:50.48\00:10:51.45 It's because it makes you into the final editor of the film 00:10:51.46\00:10:55.87 So if you take for instance 00:10:56.63\00:10:57.68 the famous scene from Alfred Hitchcock's film: 00:10:57.72\00:11:00.87 "Psycho" Where you see a knife being raised 00:11:01.03\00:11:03.02 You see a woman's terrified face 00:11:03.05\00:11:05.01 You see a foot slipping in the shower 00:11:05.21\00:11:07.04 You see something red going down 00:11:07.14\00:11:08.74 Not even red. It's black and white 00:11:08.84\00:11:10.07 but something going down the drain 00:11:10.26\00:11:11.40 and then you ask people what they saw 00:11:11.44\00:11:12.55 and they'll tell you that they saw a murder! 00:11:13.06\00:11:15.26 but the fact is: 00:11:15.70\00:11:16.96 they didn't see any such thing 00:11:17.06\00:11:19.35 The editor got inside your mind 00:11:19.84\00:11:21.54 and you became the final editor 00:11:21.84\00:11:23.81 and that's why the images that you've seen 00:11:23.85\00:11:26.02 in television stick with you 00:11:26.05\00:11:27.30 People would describe scenes from television 00:11:27.41\00:11:29.76 and form the movies and from the news that they never saw 00:11:29.95\00:11:32.33 because clever editors and clever directors 00:11:32.36\00:11:35.30 made you make the final cut 00:11:35.33\00:11:36.75 It is scary, isn't it? 00:11:36.86\00:11:38.63 Well coming up 00:11:39.41\00:11:40.74 We'll be continuing to talk with Jason 00:11:40.78\00:11:43.38 and get an inside look at the television industry 00:11:43.48\00:11:46.50 So stay with us! 00:11:46.78\00:11:48.20 We'll be right back! 00:11:48.30\00:11:49.55 Next week on Up Close 00:11:56.22\00:11:57.47 We're going to be talking about the fall out 00:11:57.57\00:12:00.07 that comes from divorce 00:12:00.17\00:12:01.94 I spent a lot of time crying, of course 00:12:02.46\00:12:05.71 and mourning 00:12:07.03\00:12:08.10 the loss of not just a marriage but my whole life 00:12:08.40\00:12:11.95 You heard her say she was angry with God for a time 00:12:12.54\00:12:15.51 It was pretty uncomfortable not knowing 00:12:15.71\00:12:17.66 whether to get up and say hello 00:12:17.69\00:12:19.62 So what do people do? They say I am not going to go 00:12:20.26\00:12:23.58 anywhere where God would be pleased to see me 00:12:23.68\00:12:26.95 Next week on Up Close 00:12:27.72\00:12:28.75 Recovering from the Pain of Divorce 00:12:28.85\00:12:31.25 Don't miss it! 00:12:31.36\00:12:32.35 Welcome back to 3ABN presents Up Close 00:12:42.59\00:12:45.46 Today we're talking to Jason Seiber 00:12:45.66\00:12:48.61 about taming your TV. 00:12:48.81\00:12:50.69 How does television affect us? 00:12:51.17\00:12:53.90 Is it possible to use TV in a positive way? 00:12:53.94\00:12:57.51 or do we have to throw it out all together? 00:12:58.02\00:13:01.16 Jason you are here as the expert. 00:13:02.52\00:13:05.55 ???? 00:13:05.77\00:13:08.05 What about it? 00:13:10.97\00:13:11.94 The simple thing it sounds like 00:13:11.95\00:13:13.50 what you said while ago 00:13:13.53\00:13:14.61 that we just needed to throw all televisions out the window 00:13:14.71\00:13:17.19 If so, nobody is watching today 00:13:18.05\00:13:19.54 Right, right and we can all go home right now 00:13:19.58\00:13:21.52 It's been nice seeing you all today 00:13:21.55\00:13:23.35 and then you throw away your televisions 00:13:23.65\00:13:25.13 No it's not as easy as that 00:13:25.18\00:13:26.61 Talking about throwing away television 00:13:27.15\00:13:29.17 is sometimes like talking about throwing away a groceries cart 00:13:29.21\00:13:32.25 and we want to think about that a little bit later on 00:13:33.80\00:13:35.12 as we get into the program today 00:13:35.15\00:13:36.88 but think about this 00:13:36.91\00:13:38.00 When you go let's say Mayers 00:13:38.04\00:13:39.52 which is a major store up in Michigan, where I live 00:13:39.73\00:13:42.11 or maybe Pigley Wiggly 00:13:42.14\00:13:43.63 Do they have that down here in Michigan? 00:13:43.73\00:13:45.01 Oh excuse me Georgia, Georgia? 00:13:45.73\00:13:47.56 I am sorry 00:13:48.04\00:13:49.01 Don't wait for me in the folio? we can talk later 00:13:49.21\00:13:51.45 When you go to these places When you go to the supermarket 00:13:54.21\00:13:56.63 You have your supermarket grocery cart 00:13:56.73\00:13:59.93 And as you drive, taken that grocery down the isle? 00:14:00.25\00:14:02.69 You have choices about 00:14:02.79\00:14:03.76 what you're going to put into the grocery card 00:14:03.77\00:14:05.95 Are you going to put in Whiskey? 00:14:06.18\00:14:07.36 Well maybe an alcoholic will 00:14:07.55\00:14:08.57 Will you put cheap white bread? 00:14:08.60\00:14:09.59 or you're going to get valuable things, 00:14:09.69\00:14:11.62 like whole wheat bread and some sort of bottled water 00:14:12.74\00:14:15.19 What are you going to put into your groceries cart? 00:14:15.49\00:14:17.37 The decision is not the grocery's cart 00:14:17.52\00:14:19.73 The decision is yours! 00:14:19.83\00:14:21.08 Unfortunately for some of TV programming these days 00:14:21.12\00:14:24.69 You have items that want to jump themselves in your grocery card 00:14:24.79\00:14:27.05 So it gets a little bit more challenging then 00:14:27.15\00:14:29.44 It would be like 00:14:29.54\00:14:30.51 having to go along and you suddenly see that 00:14:30.52\00:14:31.87 There's a whiskey bottle in my grocery cart 00:14:31.90\00:14:33.35 What are you going to do about that? 00:14:33.45\00:14:34.42 Well you don't want to leave it there 00:14:34.69\00:14:35.90 Here is the analogy, how it breaks down 00:14:36.48\00:14:38.50 When you are watching Television 00:14:38.60\00:14:39.57 you can make some decisions about what you are going to see 00:14:39.58\00:14:42.53 Let's say that you like to watch 16 minutes 00:14:42.99\00:14:44.98 a great program 00:14:45.08\00:14:46.38 where you're going to learn a lot about our country 00:14:46.48\00:14:48.18 but while you are watching 16 minutes 00:14:48.64\00:14:50.53 let's say some sort of program comes on for a cop show 00:14:50.67\00:14:53.76 that shows graphic violence. 00:14:53.86\00:14:55.48 Well they're of course going to show you the worst part 00:14:55.52\00:14:57.75 of that graphic violence 00:14:57.78\00:14:58.83 So what do you do then? 00:14:58.93\00:14:59.90 Are you going to leave that into your grocery cart? 00:15:00.38\00:15:03.25 Are you going to continuing watching? 00:15:03.35\00:15:04.43 going down idols that throw? that into your grocery cart 00:15:05.11\00:15:07.92 Or you are going to make a decision 00:15:08.66\00:15:09.73 to switch over 00:15:09.83\00:15:10.80 and watch something that is safe all the time 00:15:10.81\00:15:12.09 Like most of the time PBS's? 00:15:12.17\00:15:14.13 or 3ABN for that matter. 00:15:14.33\00:15:16.15 So as you're talking about this 00:15:18.33\00:15:19.73 I am thinking about what that person at the mall 00:15:19.83\00:15:22.20 is saying about this 00:15:22.30\00:15:23.49 So let's go back to the mall where we ask people 00:15:23.59\00:15:26.18 and talk about how they thought about television 00:15:26.66\00:15:30.55 What they thought it was doing to affect their families 00:15:31.22\00:15:33.74 and once again we got some surprising answers! 00:15:34.13\00:15:37.39 How do you think television is affecting you and your family? 00:15:40.48\00:15:44.29 Well, I think adults... can 00:15:45.55\00:15:48.84 pretty well 00:15:48.87\00:15:49.99 know how it affects them, and to 00:15:50.62\00:15:56.87 know if anything is bad or violent, they can handle it 00:15:57.56\00:15:59.51 but young children 00:15:59.61\00:16:00.66 I think it affects them, a lot 00:16:00.91\00:16:03.69 We should watch, what they watch 00:16:03.79\00:16:06.44 I could use a word 00:16:07.08\00:16:08.14 Sitting in front of it can make you dumb 00:16:08.24\00:16:10.06 You just kind of get zoned into the TV 00:16:10.80\00:16:12.50 don't really get out, you know, do stuff 00:16:12.55\00:16:14.17 learn about things 00:16:14.27\00:16:15.24 I mean there is stuff on there for little kids 00:16:15.30\00:16:16.74 that might learn stuff here and there 00:16:16.77\00:16:18.49 but I don't think it is really that good 00:16:18.52\00:16:20.21 Honestly. 00:16:20.63\00:16:21.60 I don't know 00:16:21.61\00:16:22.87 No, not a whole lot really 00:16:23.73\00:16:25.40 I mean, I got a busy life so... 00:16:26.53\00:16:28.66 I don't have to much time for it 00:16:29.12\00:16:30.58 Well I think it 00:16:31.17\00:16:32.47 keeps us from probably doing more reading 00:16:33.42\00:16:36.00 as far as other items I don't know 00:16:38.48\00:16:41.36 but it stops us from doing them very much 00:16:41.40\00:16:43.36 because we, when the weather is nice or even when it is raining 00:16:43.40\00:16:47.35 we go more for drives just to get out of the house 00:16:47.55\00:16:50.45 for some degree 00:16:50.51\00:16:51.59 We don't use TV as a 00:16:52.18\00:16:54.40 well this is what we got to do, type thing. 00:16:56.59\00:16:59.08 I don't think very much, honestly 00:16:59.38\00:17:01.22 TV is kind for entertainment 00:17:01.26\00:17:02.45 I try to teach them things on 00:17:03.35\00:17:06.22 Lessons of life that 00:17:06.76\00:17:07.73 they're supposed to learn from me or from their mother 00:17:07.74\00:17:09.23 and I don't think they're influenced by TV 00:17:09.92\00:17:11.49 They know what's fiction 00:17:11.59\00:17:12.61 It is not real 00:17:12.79\00:17:14.04 I don't think very much 00:17:14.95\00:17:15.95 I think that it affects a lot because 00:17:15.99\00:17:18.59 anything that she watches she picks up on 00:17:18.79\00:17:21.09 so if it's something positive, she repeats it or acts it out 00:17:21.49\00:17:25.23 so what ever she's going to see that's what she?perturates? 00:17:25.33\00:17:28.23 It just depends on what we watch you know 00:17:29.15\00:17:31.00 If is something bad or something like that, you know 00:17:31.04\00:17:33.18 seriously? Outgoing things on violence, stuff like that 00:17:33.36\00:17:37.58 We try not to watch violent programs, for her 00:17:37.62\00:17:41.49 so she grows up in a nice, secure environment 00:17:41.53\00:17:45.37 I think it affects our family 00:17:45.83\00:17:47.02 because I think TV can be an inspiration to people 00:17:47.06\00:17:51.68 and also I think if 00:17:52.87\00:17:53.84 there's certain programs that they're watching 00:17:53.85\00:17:55.38 It influences their every day life 00:17:55.48\00:17:57.15 Usually like I said, I like funny things so 00:17:58.54\00:18:01.04 I don't like to cop other comedians material but 00:18:01.86\00:18:04.90 I think the comedy affects me in a positive way 00:18:05.63\00:18:07.83 I really don't see no kind of effect, you know 00:18:08.71\00:18:12.01 I just enjoy watching it! 00:18:12.04\00:18:14.40 For me I don't think so 00:18:15.38\00:18:16.59 but about the kids, probably 00:18:16.69\00:18:18.97 the kids from?Two years old? 00:18:19.07\00:18:22.73 Some of the things that are on TV concern me 00:18:25.36\00:18:27.40 but we just try to watch to make sure that whatever is on 00:18:27.99\00:18:31.52 is something that it's ok for her to watch 00:18:31.72\00:18:35.23 or something that we feel like is ok even for us as adults 00:18:35.33\00:18:37.86 there is so much trash on TV that we don't like 00:18:37.89\00:18:39.91 I think it affects us quite a bit 00:18:40.83\00:18:42.42 that's why there are things that I don't want my children to see 00:18:43.31\00:18:46.41 and sometimes is hard because my 19 year old 00:18:47.09\00:18:49.58 would be watching a program that I don't 00:18:49.68\00:18:51.10 want my smaller kids to watch 00:18:51.50\00:18:53.62 so we have some debates over that type of thing 00:18:53.88\00:18:57.02 so they have to leave the room, or whatever 00:18:57.12\00:18:59.68 unfortunately I feel like Television in general 00:19:01.23\00:19:04.56 and video games, really affected our younger people as a whole 00:19:05.20\00:19:10.27 A Lot! 00:19:10.30\00:19:11.39 but you feel so small 00:19:12.48\00:19:14.29 like: What can I possibly do to get anything changed?" 00:19:14.39\00:19:17.56 You know we would like to convince ourselves 00:19:19.80\00:19:22.83 that television does not affect our children 00:19:22.93\00:19:24.74 because there's so many things that quote: 00:19:24.78\00:19:26.56 We might like to watch" 00:19:26.59\00:19:28.67 Even thought isn't good for us, but we might like to watch it 00:19:28.84\00:19:32.09 and the children are right there 00:19:32.19\00:19:34.21 and they are watching 00:19:34.31\00:19:35.28 It's really scary to hear people talk about 00:19:35.63\00:19:38.03 How it does affect their children 00:19:40.13\00:19:42.45 and influence their children 00:19:42.55\00:19:44.12 I think it's even maybe worst 00:19:44.41\00:19:46.97 when they think it doesn't 00:19:47.98\00:19:49.53 Some people say: 00:19:50.57\00:19:52.42 "Ok, well it affects our kids" 00:19:52.55\00:19:53.84 but the others say: 00:19:53.94\00:19:54.91 " It doesn't affect my kids " I don't see. 00:19:54.92\00:19:56.95 One lady even said, I don't see that affects me, I just watch 00:19:57.05\00:20:00.47 Let me tell you right now 00:20:01.08\00:20:02.05 That's not why advertisers pay the big bucks 00:20:02.06\00:20:03.88 is because they don't think it affects you 00:20:03.91\00:20:05.86 We think it does affect you 00:20:06.27\00:20:07.84 Really if you spent with anything like this 00:20:08.06\00:20:09.64 It is going to have an effect on you 00:20:09.67\00:20:12.13 and some people have asked me: 00:20:12.53\00:20:14.02 Am I being manipulated by Television? 00:20:14.33\00:20:16.07 That really is the core issue here! 00:20:16.17\00:20:18.40 Am I being manipulated? 00:20:18.52\00:20:19.88 and the answer is: 00:20:19.98\00:20:21.45 Yeah, BIG TIME! 00:20:21.49\00:20:22.93 You are being manipulated! 00:20:23.25\00:20:24.34 Well ok, How am I being manipulated? 00:20:25.63\00:20:28.93 Let's take a look at that 00:20:29.24\00:20:30.21 Why do people go to the television? 00:20:30.31\00:20:32.72 Or to the video store 00:20:32.76\00:20:33.93 or to the let's say the theatre for that reason? 00:20:34.03\00:20:36.64 It's because they want to find something 00:20:36.84\00:20:38.60 that's going to make them laugh, 00:20:38.70\00:20:39.90 or something that is going to make them cry 00:20:39.94\00:20:41.32 something that's going to make them feel the drama of life 00:20:41.42\00:20:44.90 What is all that? 00:20:45.26\00:20:46.59 That's manipulation! 00:20:46.69\00:20:48.33 The people are looking for manipulation 00:20:48.43\00:20:50.37 they are wondering: 00:20:50.40\00:20:51.37 "How can I go and find a way to manipulate my life... 00:20:51.38\00:20:53.22 ...so I don't feel the way I am feeling right now?" 00:20:53.26\00:20:55.36 I want to feel differently 00:20:55.48\00:20:57.21 I want to be horrified,I want to laugh, I want to feel dramatic 00:20:58.46\00:21:01.89 I want to experience something other 00:21:01.92\00:21:04.01 than what real life has to offer right now 00:21:04.05\00:21:06.10 So they may have a need inside 00:21:06.48\00:21:09.13 and instead of finding the Lord's help to fill that need 00:21:09.23\00:21:14.91 or a positive help 00:21:14.94\00:21:16.38 They're just wanting to black out everything 00:21:16.48\00:21:19.15 and just be entertained? 00:21:19.45\00:21:21.54 Well, yes in part. 00:21:22.10\00:21:24.36 You know we have to first resolve the question, though 00:21:24.46\00:21:26.82 Is manipulation always a bad thing? 00:21:27.43\00:21:29.71 Manipulation basically means to move something 00:21:30.13\00:21:32.77 When you go on 3ABN, let's be honest 00:21:32.87\00:21:34.71 You are trying to manipulate somebody 00:21:34.74\00:21:36.55 You are trying to manipulate them 00:21:36.58\00:21:37.75 into considering Christ as their Savior 00:21:37.79\00:21:40.08 When you sing a song, Does that touch peoples hearts? 00:21:40.37\00:21:42.06 I hope so 00:21:42.20\00:21:43.26 If you are touching their hearts that's a form of manipulation 00:21:43.38\00:21:46.14 Really the question is not whether 00:21:46.17\00:21:48.20 manipulation is a good thing or a bad thing 00:21:48.30\00:21:50.05 or being moved, is a good thing or a bad thing 00:21:50.08\00:21:52.81 It's a question of who am I being moved by? 00:21:52.91\00:21:55.09 And what am I being moved to? 00:21:55.29\00:21:57.33 If you are being moved by Christ and the Holy Spirit, 00:21:57.37\00:22:00.56 That is the kind of movement I want 00:22:00.59\00:22:01.85 It's the kind of manipulation I want in my life 00:22:01.89\00:22:04.26 If I am being moved by the other force 00:22:04.36\00:22:06.33 and first you have to believe there's another force 00:22:06.37\00:22:08.33 If you believe there's a Satan 00:22:08.36\00:22:09.83 then you ought to believe that he wants to manipulate you 00:22:09.87\00:22:11.67 If you are being moved by government 00:22:11.77\00:22:13.35 You ought to ask what kind of government 00:22:13.38\00:22:14.93 am I being manipulated by 00:22:14.96\00:22:16.36 You need to be conscious of manipulation 00:22:16.40\00:22:18.84 Not indifferent to it! 00:22:18.87\00:22:19.93 I am sure that you have heard of these tests 00:22:20.03\00:22:22.77 and you may have heard it too. 00:22:22.87\00:22:23.95 Years ago, 00:22:24.05\00:22:25.02 and I heard this probably 15, 20 years ago, 00:22:25.26\00:22:29.05 that theatres tried this out, 00:22:29.08\00:22:31.72 while they were showing a movie 00:22:31.82\00:22:33.15 they would put the slidest I mean like 1/100 of a second 00:22:33.27\00:22:37.85 So much that the eye didn't even see it 00:22:37.95\00:22:40.11 Show some popcorn! 00:22:40.21\00:22:41.87 You are watching the movie 00:22:42.07\00:22:43.04 and you subconsciously see the popcorn 00:22:43.05\00:22:45.61 but you don't even know that you saw it. 00:22:45.64\00:22:47.42 They put in these quick little.. 00:22:47.52\00:22:49.98 Did you read that? 00:22:50.08\00:22:51.05 They put in these quick little and they would do it so often 00:22:51.06\00:22:53.66 and they tested on theatres across country 00:22:53.96\00:22:56.93 and soon as they take a break 00:22:56.96\00:22:58.58 the people would go out by the droves and eat popcorn 00:22:58.68\00:23:01.15 They didn't even know they saw any popcorn 00:23:01.18\00:23:03.35 You can only see a slight for a split second 00:23:03.39\00:23:05.53 as the movie was going 00:23:05.63\00:23:07.23 as you said while ago they saw things they didn't 00:23:07.33\00:23:09.88 this time they didn't think they saw popcorn but they really did 00:23:09.98\00:23:14.66 that it happened so fast they blended in 00:23:14.86\00:23:17.24 Now they manipulated that, and they started doing that 00:23:17.34\00:23:19.89 in theatres countries, companies all over 00:23:19.94\00:23:23.13 And they did it with sodas, with Pepsis, Cola's or whatever 00:23:23.23\00:23:26.74 So people... so they sold a lot more! 00:23:27.19\00:23:29.06 So they manipulating them for a reason 00:23:29.10\00:23:31.46 You know, what I want to know 00:23:31.56\00:23:33.12 is how do you minimize this manipulation? 00:23:33.22\00:23:35.22 Good question! 00:23:35.43\00:23:36.59 The major manipulation we experience 00:23:37.28\00:23:40.81 is not the subliminal kind that you were talking about Danny 00:23:40.91\00:23:43.83 that's out there, that takes a lot of work 00:23:43.86\00:23:45.47 and it probably has a pretty minimal effect 00:23:45.57\00:23:47.84 from the most of the studies I've read 00:23:47.94\00:23:49.52 I typically get manipulated by popcorn, 00:23:49.62\00:23:51.76 by smelling people eating popcorn 00:23:51.79\00:23:53.58 I don't know about you, but that's me. 00:23:54.21\00:23:55.71 The major manipulation that we're concerned about, I believe 00:23:55.81\00:23:59.42 as Christians, and as people who watch what's out there 00:23:59.52\00:24:03.30 is the kind of manipulation 00:24:03.40\00:24:04.57 that's very intentional and very obvious 00:24:04.61\00:24:06.69 and we need to learn how to ask intelligent questions 00:24:07.17\00:24:09.14 The major answer to stopping manipulation that you don't want 00:24:09.18\00:24:13.47 is to ask the intelligent question: 00:24:13.51\00:24:15.62 "What are they not showing me?" 00:24:15.65\00:24:17.32 "What are they not saying?" 00:24:17.36\00:24:18.63 "What are they not talking about right now" 00:24:18.88\00:24:21.42 "What are they showing me? What are they saying?" 00:24:21.52\00:24:23.40 and how this all this come into 00:24:23.43\00:24:25.18 an expression of a person's world view? 00:24:25.22\00:24:27.23 We journalists are famous for saying: 00:24:27.26\00:24:28.97 We don't have a world view, we're just trying to be 00:24:29.01\00:24:30.82 unbuyesteds reporters? 00:24:31.12\00:24:32.90 A ham, Boloney! 00:24:33.00\00:24:34.24 That is not real! 00:24:36.16\00:24:37.31 It is true. My friend is a newspaper writer 00:24:37.35\00:24:39.13 and he says: 00:24:39.16\00:24:40.13 "You know we never let the truth get in the way of a good story" 00:24:40.14\00:24:42.89 That's right! 00:24:42.92\00:24:43.89 Back in the days when I was doing TV news 00:24:44.04\00:24:46.33 The old line was: 00:24:46.43\00:24:47.44 If it bleeds it leads 00:24:47.54\00:24:48.84 we do want to move people, and we want them 00:24:48.90\00:24:51.02 to see our perspective 00:24:51.12\00:24:52.70 When I chose to take a camera out there 00:24:52.74\00:24:55.11 and talk about the city and how prosperous it is 00:24:55.15\00:24:58.36 It makes a big difference whether I showed bumps 00:24:58.46\00:25:01.25 eating out of garbage cans 00:25:01.35\00:25:02.90 or I showed people building a hire raised building down town 00:25:02.94\00:25:05.91 One shows optimism, the other one shows pessimism 00:25:06.01\00:25:08.75 Every time we show something, in media 00:25:08.78\00:25:11.50 we show it at the exclusion of showing something else 00:25:11.53\00:25:13.74 We have narrow vision 00:25:13.77\00:25:14.88 What did I choose to show you and why did I showed you that? 00:25:14.98\00:25:17.89 Unlike real life, where you just happen to see things 00:25:17.99\00:25:20.14 Television is sweated over scene by scene 00:25:20.34\00:25:23.37 In movies, frame by frame 00:25:23.40\00:25:25.75 Everything in that frame is there for a reason 00:25:26.24\00:25:29.22 is there intentionally and you ought to ask the question:"Why?" 00:25:29.32\00:25:32.75 You know, as a mother I am thinking 00:25:32.90\00:25:34.81 How powerful now is this television? 00:25:35.31\00:25:37.88 in terms of the violence we see, etcera.. 00:25:37.98\00:25:40.53 For people to actually follow it for our children to actually do 00:25:40.56\00:25:44.23 what they may have seen on the television screen 00:25:44.33\00:25:47.31 That's a good question! 00:25:47.92\00:25:49.05 How powerful is television.. 00:25:49.09\00:25:51.50 in making us follow principles that it's laying out for us 00:25:51.60\00:25:55.25 Well, again, the answer is complex folks 00:25:55.35\00:25:57.79 It's a question of.. 00:25:57.82\00:25:59.68 the magic bullet theory 00:25:59.72\00:26:01.55 Is this something that can make me do 00:26:01.65\00:26:03.67 what I otherwise would not have done? 00:26:03.71\00:26:05.70 And the answer is: " It depends " 00:26:05.88\00:26:08.09 It really depends 00:26:08.12\00:26:09.49 There's a barrage of information that hits us every day in media 00:26:09.53\00:26:13.29 and let's be honest 00:26:13.39\00:26:15.02 what typically happens as result of watching to much media 00:26:15.06\00:26:18.15 is that we become passive as opposed to active 00:26:18.25\00:26:21.39 people are more likely to get up and run out and do something 00:26:21.49\00:26:24.41 like vote, or march in the streets or pick it, or anything 00:26:24.45\00:26:27.34 They're more likely to say: 00:26:27.37\00:26:28.61 "Hmmm, I wonder what's on the next channel "... Click 00:26:28.81\00:26:31.52 That's how people become, who've watched television 00:26:31.56\00:26:34.24 So in a way they become far more passive 00:26:34.28\00:26:37.49 Now you might say: " What is the harm in that? " 00:26:37.59\00:26:38.78 Well it can be a lot of harm! 00:26:38.81\00:26:39.96 They've noticed that children who've watched a lot of violence 00:26:40.52\00:26:43.04 and become passive to violence 00:26:43.07\00:26:44.49 aren't always necessarily more likely to hit 00:26:44.53\00:26:46.87 Which is by the way statistically true, 00:26:46.90\00:26:49.00 they are more likely to hit 00:26:49.10\00:26:50.36 but more than that, 00:26:50.39\00:26:51.36 They are more likely to do nothing 00:26:51.37\00:26:52.72 when somebody else is getting hit! 00:26:52.76\00:26:54.23 They're more likely to sit back passively while somebody else 00:26:54.49\00:26:57.70 is getting clobbered! 00:26:57.73\00:26:59.39 and that can go right on up into adult life 00:26:59.49\00:27:01.71 You can remember the story of Kitty Genevies? 00:27:01.74\00:27:03.93 who has been killed in the streets of New York 00:27:03.96\00:27:05.84 and dozens of people literally watched her dying. 00:27:05.94\00:27:08.72 Didn't do a thing, didn't call anybody! 00:27:08.82\00:27:10.71 That's the kind of response, media breaths in us! 00:27:10.74\00:27:13.95 Yes it can hurt us 00:27:13.98\00:27:15.46 Not necessary by sending us into action 00:27:15.50\00:27:18.08 but seeding us out of action! 00:27:18.18\00:27:20.68 Wow! 00:27:20.71\00:27:21.68 Well coming up next 00:27:21.69\00:27:23.33 We're going to be talking with Dr. Bernell Baldwin 00:27:23.43\00:27:26.22 a brain scientist, 00:27:26.32\00:27:27.71 and he's going to be talking about children 00:27:27.93\00:27:29.73 and how they are affected by TV 00:27:29.83\00:27:32.79 So stay with us and we'll be right back! 00:27:33.08\00:27:35.62 Has your TV taken over your living room and your schedule? 00:27:42.21\00:27:45.21 Do you find that family dinner often ends up in front of TV 00:27:45.67\00:27:48.57 If so we have just the book for you! 00:27:49.46\00:27:51.53 Learn how you can tame your TV 00:27:51.63\00:27:53.66 by reading: " View at Your Own Risk " 00:27:53.70\00:27:55.46 For your free gift just write to us today at 00:27:55.56\00:27:57.65 or call during regular business hours 00:28:02.62\00:28:04.37 Ask for Up Close offer number 10! 00:28:10.08\00:28:13.45 Welcome back to 3ABN presents Up Close! 00:28:24.54\00:28:28.04 We'll be talking about Taming your TV 00:28:28.24\00:28:31.48 How does Television affect us? 00:28:31.58\00:28:34.15 Is it possible to use TV in a positive way? 00:28:34.18\00:28:37.43 Or do we have to just throw it out all together 00:28:37.83\00:28:40.43 No no no, we don't have to throw it out all together... 00:28:40.49\00:28:43.23 They're watching 3ABN right now! 00:28:43.43\00:28:45.94 I'm sure that is ok to watch 00:28:46.13\00:28:47.84 Jason's our expert, he'll tell us that 00:28:47.90\00:28:50.14 and Dr. Baldwin I hope pretty soon! 00:28:50.17\00:28:52.38 But when it comes to children and television 00:28:53.02\00:28:55.62 most of us realize that like it or not 00:28:56.09\00:28:58.96 the TV set has become the main Babysitter in America! 00:28:59.00\00:29:03.18 And with it comes also the problems! 00:29:04.03\00:29:06.70 So how much do they watch? 00:29:06.80\00:29:09.04 and once again here's what our friends have to say about this 00:29:09.14\00:29:13.25 ...in the mall 00:29:13.28\00:29:14.47 Do you have children at home? 00:29:14.57\00:29:16.18 and how many hours a day do they watch television? 00:29:16.28\00:29:18.97 Yeah, they watch TV in their room, they watch cartoons 00:29:19.50\00:29:22.39 Probably about 3 or 4 maybe 00:29:22.49\00:29:24.98 Probably.. aaa... 4 or 5 00:29:26.30\00:29:29.04 I don't know probably 5 'cause she is sleeping most of the time 00:29:30.15\00:29:33.04 She probably watches about the same amount on any given day 00:29:33.14\00:29:37.69 She's involved in sports a lot 00:29:37.75\00:29:39.40 So between going to school, 00:29:39.43\00:29:41.05 sports practice and any other games 00:29:41.35\00:29:44.33 that she may be involved in 00:29:44.47\00:29:46.60 there'll be days that she does not turn the television! 00:29:46.80\00:29:49.84 4 or 5 but they are in and out of the rooms 00:29:51.23\00:29:53.97 and they don't really concentrate on anything 00:29:54.07\00:29:56.83 Probably if they sat down and watched a program 00:29:56.87\00:29:59.60 probably it would be like 3 hours, maybe 00:29:59.63\00:30:01.15 Probably 4 or 5 hours every day 00:30:03.29\00:30:05.53 Do you supervise what your children watch? 00:30:08.27\00:30:11.57 Oh definitely, yes! 00:30:13.19\00:30:15.24 Yes I do. I don't let them watch things that are rated 00:30:15.38\00:30:19.86 not appropriate for their age group 00:30:19.96\00:30:21.81 Typically not so much 00:30:22.88\00:30:24.92 I think their mother supervises 00:30:24.96\00:30:26.40 most of their television activities 00:30:26.44\00:30:28.00 of course not anything that is passed Pd 13? 00:30:28.98\00:30:32.43 Her mom, she gets the control 00:30:33.67\00:30:36.55 but sometimes I help her, you know 00:30:37.25\00:30:39.51 Ahh,Yes I do 00:30:39.61\00:30:41.16 I usually try to get her to watch like kids programs 00:30:41.26\00:30:44.26 but, you know, usually is what we watch 00:30:44.93\00:30:46.78 Aaa, usually yes 00:30:46.88\00:30:48.14 It is mostly just cartoons and stuff, though 00:30:48.18\00:30:50.27 How old are your children? 00:30:52.35\00:30:53.96 and Do they have a television set in their room? 00:30:54.16\00:30:56.83 Yeah my daughter she has 7 years old 00:30:57.75\00:31:00.21 yeah, she watches a large TV? 00:31:00.24\00:31:02.65 I have a 9, 11 and a 19 year old 00:31:02.69\00:31:05.07 They do but it's a VCR and they can only watch tapes in there 00:31:05.17\00:31:10.03 Aaa 9, 5, 2 00:31:10.62\00:31:14.66 Yes 00:31:14.95\00:31:16.48 No. There is one in the family area which is just 00:31:16.68\00:31:19.79 down the hall from her room, that she has access to 00:31:19.83\00:31:22.91 I got one that is almost 14, 00:31:23.29\00:31:24.91 one that is almost 11 and a 2 year old 00:31:24.95\00:31:27.52 Yeah, they watch TV in their rooms they watch cartoons 00:31:27.74\00:31:30.85 That's amazing isn't it? 00:31:33.39\00:31:34.47 Yes! 00:31:34.57\00:31:35.54 You know it's interesting, because 00:31:35.55\00:31:36.97 whether not telling you in that there as we were watching 00:31:37.00\00:31:40.79 that kids by the time they have reached 18 years of age 00:31:40.83\00:31:44.59 not only seen 16000 murders 00:31:44.62\00:31:47.27 which apparently the parents weren't watching out for 00:31:47.37\00:31:50.25 that's 16000 un cut murders that your kids had to watch 00:31:50.29\00:31:53.14 but they're seen over 200.000 acts of violence 00:31:53.24\00:31:57.19 including rape and all kinds of terrible things 00:31:57.29\00:31:59.61 happening out there in the television 00:31:59.64\00:32:01.21 Did you know that most kids, the majority of kids 00:32:01.25\00:32:03.34 are not watching the same thing when mom and dad are in the room 00:32:03.44\00:32:06.12 that they are watching when mom and dad are not in the room 00:32:06.15\00:32:08.74 That is from psychological studies that had been conducted 00:32:08.84\00:32:12.26 on multiple occasions 00:32:12.29\00:32:13.91 and then when you put the television set 00:32:14.01\00:32:15.51 in the child's room 00:32:15.54\00:32:16.97 there is no supervision! 00:32:17.03\00:32:18.57 There probably is no supervision. 00:32:18.61\00:32:20.62 Let's just say this: 00:32:20.72\00:32:21.95 Putting a television set in the kids room 00:32:21.99\00:32:23.96 is a dumb idea! 00:32:23.99\00:32:26.73 And people who do it are really not using their heads 00:32:26.93\00:32:31.13 A recent report on Cnn says that 00:32:33.34\00:32:36.44 44% of the 3 year old watch 1 to 2 hours of TV each day 00:32:36.54\00:32:41.39 27% watch 3 to 4 hours and 21% watch over 5 hours each day! 00:32:41.49\00:32:50.33 and now researchers have discovered 00:32:50.43\00:32:53.46 that every hour preschoolers watch TV each day, 00:32:53.50\00:32:57.55 boost their chances of about 10% 00:32:57.65\00:33:01.04 of developing attention deficit problems 00:33:01.08\00:33:04.74 sometime later in life if not right then. 00:33:04.84\00:33:08.22 We asked the folks at the mall about this 00:33:08.83\00:33:11.23 and here is what they said. 00:33:11.53\00:33:13.30 In recent news reports, 00:33:15.54\00:33:16.67 television has been cited as causing 00:33:16.71\00:33:18.86 attention deficit disorder. 00:33:18.99\00:33:20.38 Are you concerned? 00:33:20.48\00:33:21.56 I've been watching it, yes, I've seen it so 00:33:21.60\00:33:24.72 I don't know if that, it is proven? 00:33:25.49\00:33:27.69 that kids are coming up with attention deficit disorders? 00:33:27.73\00:33:31.91 because of TVs? 00:33:32.11\00:33:33.61 I know what they watch 00:33:36.98\00:33:38.78 because I keep track of that. We don't watch much TV anyway so 00:33:38.86\00:33:42.69 No I actually haven't paid attention to it so.. 00:33:42.73\00:33:44.74 No 00:33:44.84\00:33:46.42 Yes I've seen it on TV last night. 00:33:46.91\00:33:48.70 Well one I got with attention deficit 00:33:49.61\00:33:52.27 and the other one watches as much and it doesn't affect him. 00:33:52.31\00:33:55.88 No not at this point because I don't have children at that age 00:33:56.53\00:34:00.46 and you know if I had grand children 00:34:02.38\00:34:04.54 it would make a difference 00:34:04.57\00:34:05.92 because I believe there is a lot of truth in that 00:34:06.20\00:34:08.54 you know flipping the channels, 00:34:09.11\00:34:10.93 running out when the commercials are on 00:34:11.36\00:34:13.91 I think all of those things affect, not being able to focus 00:34:13.95\00:34:18.95 on whatever they are doing 00:34:19.05\00:34:20.45 I saw that on the news the other day 00:34:20.82\00:34:22.40 I really agree with that because 00:34:22.50\00:34:24.69 because children I don't think they use their minds 00:34:24.73\00:34:27.64 and they play a lot and figure things out on their on 00:34:27.74\00:34:30.98 when they're stuck just watching TV all the time 00:34:31.01\00:34:34.29 I think they need to learn things on their own 00:34:34.79\00:34:36.69 instead of just being programmed with, you know 00:34:36.73\00:34:39.88 with what we want them to see on TV 00:34:39.91\00:34:41.43 barely I've heard limited information about that 00:34:41.83\00:34:47.82 however, since I am a psychology major I've heard that 00:34:47.86\00:34:51.82 It doesn't necessarily... It's a very small significance 00:34:52.72\00:34:58.76 correlation and 00:34:59.38\00:35:01.16 violent TV watching and violent behavior 00:35:01.20\00:35:04.08 I find it concerning but 00:35:04.26\00:35:06.65 I think ADD and ADHD 00:35:06.68\00:35:09.00 have been blown a little bit out proportion 00:35:09.04\00:35:11.93 Kids that don't have.. Have been diagnostic with it 00:35:13.31\00:35:15.78 in the recent years 00:35:15.87\00:35:17.47 but I think that it is concerning 00:35:19.17\00:35:21.99 Not really because I feel like is probably more 00:35:23.26\00:35:25.94 cartoon type programs that would cause that 00:35:25.97\00:35:28.62 because everything is so quick 00:35:28.65\00:35:30.32 changes very fast 00:35:30.52\00:35:32.69 So my kids are allowed to watch, like SESAMES STREET 00:35:33.37\00:35:36.97 and nogen? programs 00:35:37.00\00:35:38.86 things that are more geared towards learning 00:35:38.90\00:35:41.65 and not the programs that were cartoons and things like that 00:35:41.75\00:35:45.81 and that is what we're doing with the grand baby too 00:35:45.85\00:35:47.84 Just trying to keep her away from cartoons 00:35:47.94\00:35:50.54 and more on learning type things 00:35:50.64\00:35:52.16 I've heard that before 00:35:53.10\00:35:54.11 I don't know how factual that is 00:35:55.52\00:35:57.42 I've got to take your word for it 00:35:57.45\00:35:59.32 Definitely if it was proven then 00:35:59.42\00:36:01.40 I would probably limit their television even more 00:36:01.44\00:36:03.31 Amazing responses there! 00:36:05.95\00:36:08.13 Yes! 00:36:08.16\00:36:09.13 You know it sound like 00:36:09.14\00:36:10.11 if it's a programs where children learn something 00:36:10.12\00:36:12.47 then we are not going to worry about it 00:36:12.50\00:36:15.19 and yet some programs like Sesames Street 00:36:15.22\00:36:17.88 is very fragmented, like you mentioned 00:36:17.98\00:36:20.94 which is one of the manipulation techniques 00:36:20.98\00:36:23.69 That's correct! 00:36:23.79\00:36:25.17 And I think it's interesting, Danny to contrast that 00:36:25.21\00:36:28.03 with the programming that is being done on 3ABN for children 00:36:28.43\00:36:32.48 Tony Tots, Kids Time. 00:36:32.58\00:36:34.96 Watch the segments! 00:36:34.99\00:36:37.30 They are not fragmented segments! 00:36:37.34\00:36:39.94 and I think that is really very important to realize 00:36:40.04\00:36:43.00 I think if they have jumped out of this 00:36:43.03\00:36:44.89 to my mind was the idea that 00:36:44.99\00:36:46.82 everybody that we just saw 00:36:46.92\00:36:48.30 thought that it was somebody else's kid that was being hurt 00:36:48.34\00:36:50.87 yes! 00:36:50.90\00:36:51.87 and the fact is that 00:36:51.88\00:36:52.85 We all have to take a close look at ourselves! 00:36:52.86\00:36:54.51 I mean somebody's kid out there 00:36:54.89\00:36:56.55 is that average kid who is seeing 00:36:56.58\00:36:58.21 200.000 acts of violence including rape and murder 00:36:58.52\00:37:03.12 and 16.000 murders by the time they're 18. 00:37:03.22\00:37:06.17 18.000 by the time they're leaving elementary school 00:37:06.21\00:37:09.92 and that is going to have an effect 00:37:10.12\00:37:12.02 wherever you meet it is going to have an effect 00:37:12.12\00:37:14.14 kids are being affected by what they see 00:37:14.24\00:37:16.99 the consumers now what the people who sell 00:37:17.19\00:37:19.22 Are consumers items know it? 00:37:19.32\00:37:21.02 Time parents know it too 00:37:21.05\00:37:22.74 Parents do that because 00:37:22.78\00:37:24.40 I've noticed myself that I've never seen a parent say: 00:37:24.44\00:37:28.11 "My kid is a bad influence on other ones" 00:37:28.21\00:37:30.13 They always say: 00:37:30.16\00:37:31.13 "There friends had been a bad influence on them" 00:37:31.29\00:37:33.64 They hang around bad friends! 00:37:33.74\00:37:35.63 Have you ever heard the one say: My kid is messing up other kids? 00:37:35.67\00:37:39.25 You know we always think it's ours... 00:37:39.45\00:37:41.09 I hate to interrupt you... but we can let you go on 00:37:41.13\00:37:44.41 but you know what? 00:37:44.44\00:37:45.41 I've got a friend who's a real expert in this area 00:37:45.42\00:37:49.06 Dr Baldwin is here with us 00:37:49.16\00:37:52.13 and I think it might be really great 00:37:52.23\00:37:53.84 if we bring him on right now 00:37:53.87\00:37:56.04 and hear from the expert explain to us 00:37:56.24\00:38:02.05 about all this research, and ADD Attention Deficit Disorder 00:38:02.25\00:38:06.60 Dr. Baldwin is a brain scientist 00:38:06.70\00:38:10.55 Yes. Now I got a helper here under this cap 00:38:10.75\00:38:13.83 a name of the human brain 00:38:14.03\00:38:15.86 Now this is a... professional 00:38:15.96\00:38:18.58 model is nothing style form 00:38:18.62\00:38:21.21 about this and if you bought it you would for sure know it 00:38:21.31\00:38:24.13 Here comes the brain out of the boney box 00:38:24.16\00:38:27.13 There it is, 3, 5 pounds currently? 00:38:27.95\00:38:30.77 In X? was bigger 00:38:31.71\00:38:33.19 3.5 pounds is 118 grams! Heavier in man than it is in women 00:38:35.12\00:38:40.11 Now let's take a look at it, inside 00:38:40.21\00:38:42.12 In front we have 2 eyes 00:38:42.22\00:38:44.15 and we have a million living wires 00:38:44.19\00:38:46.84 from each eye that go to the brain 00:38:46.87\00:38:49.49 This is why the eyes are the major avenue to the soul 00:38:49.73\00:38:56.68 Inside the brain, here's the way the brain is put together 00:38:57.39\00:39:01.43 and the information comes to the back of the head 00:39:02.06\00:39:05.56 where you psychically see 00:39:05.66\00:39:07.41 17, 18, 19... 00:39:08.04\00:39:10.26 under my fingers... There! 00:39:10.30\00:39:12.69 That's where you psychically see 00:39:12.73\00:39:14.93 well you mentally see when other wires 00:39:16.79\00:39:21.06 go from the back of the head to the side of the head 00:39:21.10\00:39:24.58 ...here! 00:39:24.78\00:39:25.81 That's where the mind gets to work on it 00:39:27.08\00:39:29.49 Now the spiritual faculties they're in front 00:39:29.59\00:39:31.93 and one of these called the will 00:39:32.23\00:39:36.22 is under my fingers... there! 00:39:36.26\00:39:39.13 Is proven by a German neurologist 00:39:39.17\00:39:42.01 after the First World War 00:39:42.04\00:39:43.65 now I would like to make a distinction 00:39:44.44\00:39:47.11 the media are trying to manipulate 00:39:47.75\00:39:50.74 but your will is in charge of your brain! 00:39:50.84\00:39:54.28 and so if you're in Nazareth the environment can be terrible 00:39:55.21\00:40:00.71 but you can come out of it because of the Will! 00:40:01.37\00:40:04.44 so the name of the game is really persuasion! 00:40:06.11\00:40:09.49 not just manipulation 00:40:10.70\00:40:12.68 so we can choose to see 3ABN 00:40:12.78\00:40:15.72 Instead of the Junk Company Incorporated 00:40:15.82\00:40:19.20 this can really make a difference 00:40:20.16\00:40:22.21 big difference indeed! 00:40:22.24\00:40:23.81 You mentioned the young brain 00:40:23.91\00:40:25.78 here's some news about that 00:40:27.28\00:40:29.17 the basic circuits in the brain are jelled 00:40:29.81\00:40:33.72 the circuit is an electronic wheel 00:40:33.92\00:40:36.71 this is gelled when the child is 3 years of age 00:40:36.81\00:40:41.22 so if the child instead of being on mother's lap 00:40:42.50\00:40:46.84 in daddies tool box 00:40:47.15\00:40:49.34 in mother's kitchen 00:40:49.54\00:40:51.36 in the sand box making things doing things 00:40:51.46\00:40:55.02 exploring the real world 00:40:55.05\00:40:57.51 see, that has touch, sound, sight, feeling, experience 00:40:58.98\00:41:05.35 they become passive like you say 00:41:05.45\00:41:07.39 back on you 100% 00:41:07.59\00:41:08.97 so instead... 00:41:09.01\00:41:10.36 Praise the Lord! 00:41:10.46\00:41:11.43 Instead of developing a passive brain 00:41:12.27\00:41:15.79 what we want to do is to grow up curiosity 00:41:15.83\00:41:18.81 person hood 00:41:20.07\00:41:21.43 We want them to decide and to do things 00:41:21.53\00:41:25.02 and to grew up naturally instead of 00:41:25.05\00:41:27.47 becoming a... funnel? 00:41:27.57\00:41:29.71 We would like them to be more filtered? in their capacity 00:41:30.59\00:41:34.33 and more choosing 00:41:34.36\00:41:35.94 Ramon Cahall a famous Spanish brain scientist showed 00:41:36.14\00:41:39.76 that the wires that go from the brain are to the retina 00:41:39.86\00:41:43.59 so people see what they want to see 00:41:43.69\00:41:46.28 ask the neighbors 00:41:46.89\00:41:48.27 People hear what they want to hear 00:41:48.31\00:41:50.91 ask your enemies 00:41:51.88\00:41:53.07 Then how this really affects the child sitting there and watching 00:41:53.43\00:41:57.39 How would a child be different who watched a lot of television 00:41:57.49\00:42:01.38 versus a child who was able to touch things and... 00:42:01.78\00:42:06.01 What would the difference be? 00:42:06.58\00:42:08.11 DRAMATIC! 00:42:08.31\00:42:10.01 The frontal eye fields are right there, 00:42:10.11\00:42:12.42 under my finger, in the circle 00:42:12.49\00:42:14.50 in health, the frontal eye fields, guide the eye. 00:42:14.61\00:42:21.18 They shape the visual experience 00:42:21.95\00:42:25.06 but in television 00:42:25.09\00:42:26.50 what the establishment wants 00:42:26.60\00:42:29.32 is for witch of our brains to become a funnel? 00:42:29.36\00:42:32.17 They pour the commercials in the top 00:42:32.27\00:42:34.26 and the money comes out of the bottom 00:42:34.36\00:42:36.27 This is what they're after 00:42:37.60\00:42:39.51 And it's working! 00:42:40.82\00:42:41.81 YES! 00:42:41.85\00:42:42.82 What do they pay for a half of 30 seconds to super bowl? 00:42:42.83\00:42:46.90 I don't know but I know what they saw 00:42:47.30\00:42:48.90 in those 30 seconds in the Super bowl 00:42:48.94\00:42:50.51 Like a few million or something like that, dollars 00:42:50.56\00:42:52.31 just for 30 seconds 00:42:52.41\00:42:53.62 Yes, but now here's some ways that I am sure people are 00:42:53.66\00:42:58.39 on to it when you put the Bible on television 00:42:58.92\00:43:01.72 and people are reading the text 00:43:01.82\00:43:03.96 You know 00:43:04.06\00:43:05.04 For God so loved the World 00:43:05.14\00:43:08.17 This is entirely different than the frontal? business 00:43:08.91\00:43:11.70 because you're reading 00:43:12.36\00:43:13.57 and you're hearing 00:43:14.04\00:43:15.56 and if we encourage people to read the Bible 00:43:15.66\00:43:18.13 when we're speaking to them and when we are explaining to them 00:43:18.17\00:43:21.21 this will also help 00:43:21.24\00:43:22.48 another thing that helps is this: 00:43:22.58\00:43:24.65 Balance, moderation and may I use the term horse sense? 00:43:24.75\00:43:32.04 you know... 00:43:33.10\00:43:34.07 Common horse sense 00:43:34.08\00:43:35.07 You've been telling about children 00:43:35.11\00:43:36.58 but what's the difference between what children watch 00:43:36.68\00:43:38.88 and what parents should watch? 00:43:38.91\00:43:40.60 ...of the effect that it has on them 00:43:41.44\00:43:43.00 Oh in the brain? It is very simple... 00:43:43.23\00:43:44.77 The brain is plastic 00:43:44.87\00:43:46.45 and a lady brain scientist Buckley Diamond 00:43:46.55\00:43:48.94 Dr Diamond showed that you can grow 00:43:49.24\00:43:51.51 better, longer dendrites until you are 92 years of age! 00:43:51.61\00:43:55.80 So the brain is always plastic 00:43:57.39\00:43:59.87 .. Is always plastic and it could be modified 00:44:00.93\00:44:03.74 but the most plasticity is before 3 years of age 00:44:03.78\00:44:07.34 so to dump Babylon into the brain before 3 years of age 00:44:08.28\00:44:13.65 is a Catastrophe! 00:44:13.75\00:44:15.31 In plain English! 00:44:15.60\00:44:16.88 Ok, Thank You! 00:44:17.29\00:44:18.26 Wow, in just a moment we're going to find out 00:44:18.28\00:44:20.85 what our live audience thinks about this 00:44:21.40\00:44:25.07 and we're going to take their questions so... 00:44:25.17\00:44:27.49 Stay with us we'll be right back! 00:44:27.69\00:44:30.56 Next Week on Up Close 00:44:37.87\00:44:39.57 We're going to be talking about the fall out 00:44:39.61\00:44:42.03 that comes from divorce 00:44:42.06\00:44:43.93 I spent a lot of time crying, of course 00:44:44.64\00:44:47.73 and mourning 00:44:49.18\00:44:50.15 the loss of not just a marriage but my whole life 00:44:50.18\00:44:53.98 You heard her say she was angry with God for a time 00:44:54.36\00:44:57.85 It was pretty uncomfortable not knowing 00:44:58.21\00:44:59.67 whether to get up and say hello 00:44:59.70\00:45:01.63 So what do people do? They say I am not going to go 00:45:02.32\00:45:05.45 anywhere where God would be pleased to see me 00:45:06.21\00:45:08.95 Next week on Up Close 00:45:09.62\00:45:11.04 Recovering from the Pain of Divorce 00:45:11.14\00:45:13.46 Don't miss it! 00:45:13.49\00:45:14.46 Welcome back to 3ABN presents Up Close 00:45:28.15\00:45:31.20 Our Topic today is taming your TV! 00:45:31.24\00:45:34.60 We've heard about how powerful television is 00:45:34.70\00:45:38.00 ...how many hours the average viewer is watching 00:45:38.10\00:45:41.20 and even about news studies on the relationship between 00:45:41.30\00:45:44.93 TV and attention Deficit Disorders 00:45:44.96\00:45:47.70 in our children and in our youth! 00:45:47.80\00:45:50.46 but right now we want to open up the program 00:45:50.56\00:45:53.82 for questions from pure audience 00:45:53.92\00:45:55.54 I think we have some good ones! 00:45:55.64\00:45:57.29 We do we have a young lady out here 00:45:57.33\00:45:58.92 Can you give us your name honey? 00:45:58.96\00:46:00.52 Hi my name is Chilean Nolan... 00:46:01.17\00:46:02.95 and my question is: 00:46:02.98\00:46:04.75 Do you consider TV a peer 00:46:05.88\00:46:08.10 pressure? Do we consider TV to be a Peer pressure? 00:46:09.11\00:46:11.67 You know that is a good question 00:46:11.77\00:46:13.67 and peer pressure is a good name for television 00:46:13.77\00:46:17.51 television doesn't necessarily forces to do things 00:46:17.54\00:46:21.25 but it suggests things just like peer pressure does in school 00:46:21.28\00:46:24.87 and at some times it helps us to reinforce ideas that we may have 00:46:24.90\00:46:29.99 and so for instance: 00:46:30.09\00:46:31.86 It was media that really helped Hitler 00:46:31.96\00:46:34.84 to get the German people to go and attack the Jews 00:46:34.94\00:46:38.49 All right? 00:46:38.69\00:46:39.66 If you ever studied that in school you'll learn that 00:46:39.67\00:46:42.20 So did that mean that he made them do it? 00:46:42.30\00:46:45.22 Not really folks he didn't make them do it 00:46:45.42\00:46:47.87 anti-Semitism went way back in German history 00:46:47.90\00:46:50.32 but he suggested ways to do it 00:46:50.35\00:46:52.29 and he intensified the anti-Semitic feelings so... 00:46:52.39\00:46:56.28 Yes, I think peer pressure 00:46:56.31\00:46:57.78 is an excellent choice of words for television! 00:46:57.82\00:47:00.38 Okay! 00:47:01.16\00:47:02.16 All right, well we have another question 00:47:02.20\00:47:04.55 and give us your name and where are you from 00:47:04.58\00:47:06.90 My name is Zeola Austin? and I am from Huntsville Alabama 00:47:07.03\00:47:10.45 All right we're happy that you are here, what is your question? 00:47:10.81\00:47:13.55 retired teacher?has taught a number of these ADD children 00:47:13.58\00:47:16.27 since we have so many of them in the classroom now 00:47:16.37\00:47:20.26 my question is: 00:47:20.36\00:47:21.91 Should not our classrooms be structured to 00:47:22.01\00:47:25.92 include them, in our classroom, in our studies 00:47:25.96\00:47:29.84 rather then holding them in a classroom from 2 to 3 hours 00:47:29.94\00:47:33.92 at a time and trying to make them sit still? 00:47:34.02\00:47:37.39 I think I am going to refer? that one to you Dr Baldwin 00:47:38.25\00:47:40.52 About Attention Deficit Disorder 00:47:41.29\00:47:43.87 One: There are many causes 00:47:44.27\00:47:46.76 Two: We only know a few of them. 00:47:47.19\00:47:49.92 Television make a contribution of this because 00:47:50.99\00:47:54.74 of short-circuiting normal development 00:47:54.77\00:47:56.86 but to hang all the 00:47:56.96\00:47:59.07 Attention Deficit problems in America on Television 00:47:59.11\00:48:02.25 would be a mistake. 00:48:02.46\00:48:04.79 Certainly. There's a lot of epigenetic 00:48:05.59\00:48:08.42 There's a lot of genetics involved 00:48:08.52\00:48:10.46 There's a lot of mental issues involved 00:48:10.56\00:48:13.32 There's a lot of chemical and electronic issues involved 00:48:13.42\00:48:16.60 so we shouldn't scapegoat the problem. 00:48:16.80\00:48:19.93 None the less, if, particularly boys, and girls 00:48:20.03\00:48:24.55 if they have this problem... 00:48:24.59\00:48:26.46 Who else is there? 00:48:26.56\00:48:27.65 What? 00:48:27.68\00:48:28.65 Boys and girls... Excuse me. 00:48:28.66\00:48:31.43 Men and Women! 00:48:31.53\00:48:32.77 Thank you Kay! 00:48:33.07\00:48:34.97 Because adults have it now, too! 00:48:35.88\00:48:38.12 Oh, all right I'm in it. I got it 00:48:38.22\00:48:39.99 What they need is action to put the brain back together again 00:48:40.09\00:48:45.04 You see? 00:48:46.05\00:48:47.02 Gardening, building things, making things, doing things, 00:48:47.91\00:48:52.87 going places, instead of sitting and having 00:48:52.97\00:48:55.45 cellulose packed into their brains! 00:48:55.55\00:48:58.63 So active classrooms, a lot of gardening... 00:48:59.27\00:49:02.64 Out of the classroom! 00:49:02.74\00:49:05.34 Yes get out and do something use your hands and all that, 00:49:05.64\00:49:08.61 she is saying. 00:49:08.98\00:49:09.95 Don't count Washington and big bucks to solve this problem 00:49:09.96\00:49:13.33 Like it! 00:49:13.43\00:49:14.40 All right We have another question. 00:49:14.41\00:49:16.64 Give us your name please 00:49:16.74\00:49:17.76 Malcolm mcgreles? from Road mountain Tennessee 00:49:17.86\00:49:20.34 Good, we're glad you're here! 00:49:20.64\00:49:21.94 One of the annoyances on a personal level for me 00:49:23.46\00:49:27.26 is background music that is being played 00:49:27.36\00:49:30.67 during, like commercials 00:49:30.70\00:49:32.39 and other activities in radio and television, 00:49:32.43\00:49:35.03 more probably on radio then television. 00:49:35.14\00:49:37.67 I just wondered why they do this? 00:49:37.87\00:49:41.35 That it a good question! 00:49:41.76\00:49:42.74 The reason we do that is because 00:49:42.84\00:49:44.16 we want to suggest to you that you feel good about our product 00:49:44.26\00:49:47.62 that we're moving, so when we have Kodak film 00:49:47.65\00:49:50.42 We're not going to say: Isn't Kodak film nice? 00:49:50.46\00:49:53.15 doesn't it make a lovely picture with a high quality shoot? 00:49:53.25\00:49:56.69 We want you to say: 00:49:56.72\00:49:57.92 When I use Kodak, it reminds me of our family reunion 00:49:58.02\00:50:02.22 eating watermelon and those nice kids down the block 00:50:02.32\00:50:05.33 we used to ride bikes with. 00:50:05.36\00:50:06.60 and they can do that 00:50:07.56\00:50:08.53 by suggesting music that takes you there! 00:50:08.54\00:50:10.21 Okay so they naturally once again manipulation to 00:50:10.65\00:50:14.37 make you feel good about their product 00:50:14.47\00:50:17.76 Danny you have a much better chance of moving the product 00:50:17.86\00:50:20.39 If a person feels good when they're seeing the product 00:50:20.49\00:50:23.27 They wont even remember what the product has going for 00:50:23.37\00:50:26.44 on an intellectual basis but 00:50:26.54\00:50:27.85 they'll now that when they saw that product on television 00:50:27.89\00:50:30.59 they felt good. 00:50:30.69\00:50:31.66 So when you see the logo name 00:50:31.67\00:50:33.27 you have this wave of feeling that comes over you. 00:50:33.47\00:50:35.95 All right. Good 00:50:36.05\00:50:37.02 All right, Thank You. 00:50:37.12\00:50:38.09 Next Question. 00:50:38.16\00:50:39.58 Yes, my name is Vanessa Harvey 00:50:39.68\00:50:41.87 and How powerful is the media? 00:50:41.90\00:50:44.06 Can it have effects on us that we would otherwise do? 00:50:44.16\00:50:46.91 Make us do other things? 00:50:46.94\00:50:48.49 I like that question, well, 00:50:49.20\00:50:50.44 it makes you do things that you wouldn't have done otherwise? 00:50:51.09\00:50:54.46 Well sometimes media is 00:50:54.57\00:50:56.95 projected to be the sort of magic bullet 00:50:56.99\00:51:01.50 that when they shoot it off, 00:51:01.62\00:51:02.59 you'll do anything they suggest to you 00:51:02.60\00:51:04.62 But they found during World War 2 00:51:05.01\00:51:06.66 that it was impossible to teach people to do things 00:51:06.76\00:51:09.44 they were not opened at least a little bit. 00:51:09.47\00:51:11.46 For instance, you can't make Jews hate Jews. 00:51:11.76\00:51:14.70 You can make Germans hate Jews 00:51:14.90\00:51:16.64 if they have some disposition to do that, 00:51:16.68\00:51:18.85 but if a person has any openness suggestion does play a huge part 00:51:19.05\00:51:23.53 and so does the reinforcement that comes after that suggestion 00:51:23.83\00:51:28.36 Ok, Dr Baldwin Do you any comments to that 00:51:30.75\00:51:32.69 about the manipulation, or about the question she just asked? 00:51:32.73\00:51:37.31 Yes, Next! 00:51:37.41\00:51:38.96 That means You covered that well, Jason! 00:51:41.62\00:51:44.03 That's what that means! 00:51:44.06\00:51:45.25 Ok, all right we have a young man here 00:51:45.75\00:51:47.68 What's your name and where are you from son? 00:51:47.78\00:51:48.94 I'm James Garner and I'm from Kensal Georgia 00:51:49.68\00:51:52.36 and I just want to know some good ways of choosing 00:51:52.46\00:51:55.20 my programs that I watch on TV? 00:51:55.23\00:51:56.58 A good question! 00:51:56.98\00:51:58.00 That's one I was hoping somebody would ask, here 00:51:58.18\00:52:00.08 What you don't want to do 00:52:00.28\00:52:01.70 let's start with that! 00:52:01.80\00:52:02.77 Don't make your decision 00:52:02.78\00:52:04.02 while you are flipping through the channels! 00:52:04.05\00:52:05.59 Don't make your decision before you've taken time 00:52:05.66\00:52:07.57 to think about your decision. 00:52:07.60\00:52:08.86 Study the program! 00:52:09.06\00:52:10.33 Before you let your kids watch the program 00:52:10.43\00:52:12.20 Don't take TV guides word for it Watch it with them 00:52:12.30\00:52:14.90 before you let them sit there and watch programs 00:52:14.93\00:52:17.50 without your attendance in the future. 00:52:17.53\00:52:19.18 Another thing: 00:52:19.28\00:52:20.25 Write down your values! 00:52:20.26\00:52:21.54 Now I'll tell you what my values are 00:52:21.64\00:52:22.85 My values can be found in the Word Of God 00:52:22.95\00:52:24.42 So I take the Big Ten right, The Ten Commandments 00:52:24.46\00:52:26.79 and think about 00:52:26.89\00:52:28.21 Does this Television program 00:52:28.31\00:52:30.65 extend my values to my children or to my life 00:52:30.75\00:52:33.98 if it's not I don't think I'd watch it. 00:52:34.08\00:52:35.75 Makes sure that the values you believe in 00:52:35.85\00:52:38.47 are being promoted by the television program 00:52:38.57\00:52:40.84 that you're choosing to watch. 00:52:40.87\00:52:42.03 Another thing: 00:52:42.13\00:52:43.10 Make sure that you ask questions 00:52:43.11\00:52:44.85 now you may be saying: 00:52:44.89\00:52:45.86 "I am too tired to ask questions when I am watching Television" 00:52:45.94\00:52:49.55 Then don't watch TV! 00:52:49.65\00:52:51.21 It's a big THA, moment! 00:52:51.31\00:52:52.92 If you don't want to be manipulated 00:52:53.02\00:52:55.63 Then don't watch it when you are tired! 00:52:55.73\00:52:57.59 because when you are tired you are going to be manipulated 00:52:57.69\00:52:59.71 a lot more easily than if you are awake 00:52:59.74\00:53:01.89 and alert and asking questions. 00:53:01.92\00:53:03.49 Don't watch television programs that 00:53:03.53\00:53:05.47 try to fragment reality so much, that even if you are awake 00:53:05.51\00:53:09.62 and conscious there is no way to keeping pace with the image rate 00:53:09.66\00:53:12.66 and the suggestion 00:53:12.76\00:53:13.73 to be able to understand that imagery and suggestion. 00:53:15.39\00:53:18.11 and finally: 00:53:18.63\00:53:19.60 I would say: 00:53:19.61\00:53:20.58 Don't assume that the television program you're watching 00:53:20.59\00:53:24.12 has no agenda. 00:53:24.16\00:53:25.46 It has an agenda! 00:53:25.56\00:53:26.96 Ask yourself whether if it's your agenda, 00:53:27.06\00:53:29.39 whether it matches up with Gods agenda 00:53:29.43\00:53:31.73 if you're a Christian. 00:53:31.76\00:53:32.73 If it doesn't, shove it! 00:53:32.74\00:53:34.55 Well we only have a couple minutes left 00:53:36.71\00:53:38.30 and what we like to do is maybe ask you each for? 00:53:38.34\00:53:41.54 so some final thoughts 00:53:41.64\00:53:42.82 on this program today Jason let's start with you. 00:53:42.92\00:53:45.41 One of the things we haven't talked about is 00:53:45.51\00:53:47.33 the good that Television can do 00:53:47.37\00:53:49.11 One of the good things that Television can do is 00:53:49.21\00:53:51.17 that it can present to you in just a few moments 00:53:51.21\00:53:53.56 with a wide variety of educational topics 00:53:53.66\00:53:57.26 In 2 minutes of television 00:53:57.46\00:53:58.81 you can learn more than some people can learn 00:53:58.85\00:54:00.50 in 20 years of reading books, 00:54:00.60\00:54:02.52 and so Television is a powerful medium 00:54:02.72\00:54:05.40 if used correctly, it should be used! 00:54:05.50\00:54:08.43 Another thing that we ought to notice about Television is 00:54:08.53\00:54:11.43 is that When you are watching TV 00:54:11.53\00:54:14.37 is important to watch things 00:54:14.40\00:54:16.87 that vary with your world view. 00:54:16.90\00:54:19.34 so if you are a democrat 00:54:19.86\00:54:20.91 watch things that are put out by republicans as well. 00:54:21.01\00:54:23.37 If you are a republican 00:54:23.40\00:54:24.37 watch things that are put out by democrats 00:54:24.38\00:54:26.29 If you are an American 00:54:26.39\00:54:27.46 try to listen to the BBC once in a while 00:54:27.50\00:54:29.69 If you are listening to the BBC try to see what's out here. 00:54:29.73\00:54:32.45 Vary your media input so that 00:54:32.55\00:54:34.74 one channel, one set of minds 00:54:34.84\00:54:36.70 aren't making all the suggestions to you 00:54:36.74\00:54:38.85 finally I want to say something one last little piece? 00:54:38.89\00:54:41.99 Look, not everything in the Bible 00:54:42.33\00:54:44.37 is appropriate for your child to read. 00:54:44.41\00:54:46.37 I would suggest not going to the Book of Judges right away. 00:54:46.47\00:54:49.28 There are some stories in there that 00:54:49.31\00:54:50.51 if they were rated in television would be NC 17 00:54:50.55\00:54:53.24 and they're described in a way that you don't want 00:54:53.34\00:54:55.56 your child to hear. 00:54:55.59\00:54:56.56 Time and place needs to come into place 00:54:56.57\00:54:58.23 There are things that are rated are!? 00:54:58.27\00:55:00.36 out there in Television land, or in the movies 00:55:00.40\00:55:02.95 this is Schindler's List 00:55:02.98\00:55:04.20 witch would probably would be helpful for a collage student 00:55:04.30\00:55:07.38 trying to learn about the Holocaust 00:55:07.48\00:55:09.10 and to teach people not to repeat the sins of the Holocaust 00:55:09.14\00:55:13.07 they are not appropriate for kindergartners to see 00:55:13.47\00:55:16.74 so make sure that you take into consideration 00:55:16.84\00:55:19.74 Time, Place, and Audience Choose Wisely! 00:55:19.84\00:55:23.18 Ok. All right. Dr. Baldwin? 00:55:23.28\00:55:24.71 Yes. 00:55:25.35\00:55:26.32 I like his point of the ten big pillars? 00:55:27.66\00:55:32.00 The TEN COMMANDMENTS 00:55:32.10\00:55:33.88 Beautiful! 00:55:34.00\00:55:34.97 Last forever! 00:55:35.05\00:55:36.77 Another thing along the same line, is: 00:55:37.06\00:55:39.57 Is Philippians 4-8 00:55:39.61\00:55:41.06 What so ever things are true, and honest. 00:55:41.15\00:55:44.28 The things that are beautiful and noble 00:55:44.93\00:55:47.27 enduring and will put excellence into your family 00:55:47.31\00:55:51.58 instead of: Babylon! 00:55:51.78\00:55:54.51 Good idea! 00:55:55.01\00:55:56.15 Ok. Very good 00:55:56.19\00:55:57.30 We want to thank both of you for being here 00:55:57.40\00:55:59.94 Jason Seiber 00:56:00.27\00:56:01.40 Dr. Bernell Baldwin 00:56:01.44\00:56:03.47 and we'll be back in just a moment 00:56:03.77\00:56:06.31 with some closing thoughts. 00:56:06.34\00:56:07.65 So stay with us! 00:56:07.71\00:56:09.01 Has your TV taken over your living room and your schedule? 00:56:16.47\00:56:19.84 Do you find that family dinner often ends up in front of TV? 00:56:20.44\00:56:23.49 If so we have just the book for you! 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