Participants: Dan Mackintosh (Host)<\br> 01. Dr. Gerard McLain<\br> 02. Naomi Coleman
Series Code: UC
Program Code: UC000409
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00:26 Hello! You are welcome to another edition of Up close!
00:29 We are coming to you from the beautiful 00:30 "Three Angels Seventh Day Adventist Church" in Wichita, 00:33 Kansas. And we are pleased to have you with us 00:38 Today we're going to be talking about a subject that has become 00:40 increasingly serious in this country. 00:43 In fact, it is the second leading cause 00:46 of preventable death in America. 00:48 We are talking, of course, about the problem of obesity, 00:51 and even though we are some of the most weight conscious people 00:55 in the world, the problem is getting worse and worse. 00:57 In fact, this last year, in America, I am told that we spent 01:02 over 90 billion dollars because of this problem. 01:06 Those that are age 5 and under, 18 million of them, 01:09 are now considered overweight. 01:11 We are going to be exploring how we got this weight, 01:14 what some of the contributing factors are, and especially, 01:17 what we can do about it in today's program. 01:21 Our first guest is Naomi Coleman from Harper, Kansas. 01:24 She has worked for years as a secretary bookkeeper 01:27 and today she enjoys collecting and selling antiques, 01:30 and in her leisure time, she enjoys being 01:33 with those grandkids. 01:35 As a child, Naomi had no weight problems and was very active, 01:38 though she did not eat everything that was 01:41 completely right. 01:42 However, in her 20s, Naomi found that 01:45 the pounds started piling up. 01:47 Listen to what she told us a little bit earlier. 01:49 - In my 20s, when the kids were a little bit older, 01:53 I noticed I was starting to get weight. 01:56 I was eating now more often and I was fixing 02:00 a lot of processed foods, it was easier to fix 02:04 macaroni and cheese and things out of a box than it was to try 02:08 to figure out how to cook something correct. 02:11 We didn't eat regular meals a lot, at that time when my kids 02:19 were growing up I was divorced and so, a lot of times 02:23 we didn't just sit down and eat a three course meal. 02:27 So, we ate more junk food and the pounds started piling up. 02:32 In my early 30s was when I noticed that I was little 02:37 too heavy and a couple of times I'd thought about 02:41 trying to loose weight but I never really knew what to do. 02:45 I would decide that I was going to loose weight but deciding 02:50 isn't enough, you still have to be able to know 02:52 what to do and how to do it. 02:53 And our lifestyle hadn't changed. 02:56 I was still eating out and when I'd go out to eat, 02:59 I would have... you know, if you went out to eat, you felt like 03:02 you needed to have something really special, 03:04 like a steak and potatoes, French fries and all the greasy 03:08 and the things that really aren't good for you. 03:11 So, this time went on, I just kept piling on the pounds, 03:17 and I was about maybe 30 pounds overweight at that time, 03:22 as I started gaining more weight, I was starting to be 03:28 a little more embarrassed about being heavy, 03:30 I was single at that time, and you don't really want to be 03:35 a fat single person, you want to feel good about yourself 03:39 you want to feel sexy, you want to feel attractive, and 03:43 I wasn't feeling those things because I was getting heavier. 03:48 A lot of times, I think, we mask how we feel with humor, 03:54 and that is one of my biggest areas that I would do... 03:59 you know, a fat person is a happy person, 04:04 everybody likes a happy person. 04:06 And even though I didn't feel good about gaining weight, 04:11 I still didn't feel bad enough to do anything serious about it. 04:15 - Well, that's true, isn't it true that things begin 04:18 to creep upon us just like Naomi said. 04:20 And that's also true when it comes to weight. 04:23 We are glad that Naomi Coleman is with us this evening 04:26 and we'd like to welcome her to the program at this time. 04:36 Welcome Naomi! We are glad that you could come 04:38 and, you know, to talk about this type of subject is not 04:41 always the easiest thing to do, so we are thankful that you 04:44 could come and talk with us. 04:45 You know, I noticed in that clip that things just started to 04:49 creep up on you, is that right? 04:51 - That's right, they did. 04:52 - And wasn't something that was really a big deal at first 04:56 but then it started to get a little bit more something 05:00 that came to your attention. 05:01 - A little more noticeable! 05:02 - Now, you know, as we were talking, you told me that 05:05 one day you were talking to a close friend and 05:07 I said something that was kind of shock to you. 05:09 - Yes, she told me I was getting fat. 05:11 - Did she say it just like that? - Yes, she did! 05:14 - She didn't meander around at all? 05:15 - No! - Well, how exactly did she say? 05:18 - 'You are getting fat, Naomi!' - And how did you take that? 05:22 - No, I just kind of... I made a joke out of it. 05:24 I knew I was getting fat, I really didn't need her 05:27 to tell me. 05:28 - Well, did you tell her that you didn't need her to tell you? 05:31 - No! 05:32 - But when she left, how did you really feel about that? 05:35 - Well, I knew she was right, I was a little embarrassed 05:38 about it, but I still didn't know what to do about that. 05:43 - And so, you were kind of saying: 'What should I do next?' 05:48 - Yes! 05:49 - And there is no real help that you knew of, but now you 05:53 know that others knew that you needed some help. 05:55 - Yes! She offered to tell me I was fat, she didn't 05:58 offer to help me to get skinny. 05:59 - O, that's the kind of people that are... what did we say? 06:02 What kind of people? The kind we don't need, right? 06:05 - Yes! 06:06 - We asked Naomi about what really made her decide 06:08 to do something about her weight and health in general, 06:11 and here is what she shared with us: 06:14 As I got a little older and I'd got and remarried, at first 06:20 I had lost a little bit of weight because of such a 06:23 dramatic change in my life, but then, as time went on, 06:27 you come more contended and it seems like everybody 06:31 has needs for firs, and so I still wasn't paying attention 06:35 to what I needed to do for myself. 06:37 And it wasn't until just the last few years that I have 06:40 noticed that my health was really being affected 06:43 by my weight. 06:44 I did try weight watchers at one time, I did loose some weight, 06:49 and that was probably the first time I ever really learned 06:52 how to cook right, how to eat right. 06:54 I still didn't know how to cook right. 06:56 I knew that, you know, I should have fruits and vegetables 06:59 and even though I've always sort of known that, 07:03 nobody was ever really taught me that, 07:05 and how important that was to our health. 07:08 About three years ago we had a very exiting surprise 07:12 from my daughter, she told me that she was pregnant, 07:16 and this was going to be my first grandchild. 07:19 And about that time I realized how important it was that 07:22 I started taking care of myself if I wanted to be around 07:25 and watch these grandchildren grow up. 07:28 During this time also my health seemed to had been going 07:32 stately down hill, 07:34 and again, I just wasn't sure what to do about it. 07:38 I was having a lot of chest pains, I was having a lot of 07:42 acid reflux, I just caught every single cold that went around, 07:48 somebody could sneeze and I would have a full blown cold, 07:52 it seemed like every flu that went around, I was catching, 07:55 so I knew that there just wasn't anything healthy about 07:59 my body at that point and I really, really needed to do 08:02 something and I needed to do it quickly. 08:04 - So you knew that you had a problem, your friend did share 08:08 that with you, but now you were sensing that, 08:10 but you had another element here, you had another reason: 08:14 the grandkids. 08:16 How many grandchildren do you have? 08:17 - I have three, now. 08:18 - And you had how many then? That was the first one? 08:20 - That was the first one. 08:21 - And then, these other two were giving you more reasons? 08:23 - Definitely! 08:24 - O, that's great! So, what did you finally do? 08:27 - We heard about CHIP class here at "Three Angels Church", 08:33 and so I joined it and came. 08:35 - It sounds like an interesting class. 08:36 What these 'chips' stand for? Is that like chocolate chips, 08:39 is that the Doritos chip, is that potato chip, what is that? 08:42 - That's what I had before. 08:44 - Ok, so what is that, what is the CHIP program about? 08:49 - For Cardiac Health Improvement Project. 08:51 - Ok. 08:52 - And it teaches you how to eat right and why you need 08:55 to learn to eat right, what it does to you body. 09:00 - So, you went to that program, and they actually 09:04 showed you what to do. 09:06 - Yes, yes, they did. - Did the food taste good? 09:12 - It was a little interesting at first, but it became very good. 09:16 - Ok, now I understand. Did they have you cook the food, 09:19 or the other people cooked before you there? 09:21 - Well, they had samples every night and that helped us, 09:25 and then, every week-end, every Sunday we had classes 09:28 where we were able to bring food, also. 09:31 - Ok, great. And what happened to you physically, what kind 09:34 of physical changes came as a result of that time 09:37 in the CHIP program? 09:39 Well, I started CHIP in February and I've now lost 30 pounds. 09:44 - February of what, of this year? 09:46 - Of this year! - And you've lost 30 pounds? 09:48 - Right! 09:49 - So, how many months ago was that? 09:51 - It's 9 months ago. - 9 months ago, ok. 09:53 - And I kept if off, I mean I took it off within the 09:56 first 4 months but I've been able to keep it off 09:59 the whole time. 10:00 - What about your numbers, other numbers? 10:02 - My cholesterol has gone from 2.25 down to 1.89. 10:06 - Wow, that's a sizeable drop! - Yes! 10:08 And I was taking High Blood Pressure medicine 10:11 and now I am not. - Wonderful, you feel better! 10:14 - I feel a lot better. - And those grandkids have a 10:17 more energetic grandmother. - They do, I can now get up 10:20 of the floor once I've gotten down there with them. 10:23 - Great, that's great! Well, coming up next, we are 10:26 going to be talking with a doctor who deals with obesity 10:28 every day, and we'll find out what is causing our weight 10:32 problems in America, why we eat so much, and so, stay with us, 10:36 we will be right back. 10:45 Next week on Up Close. 10:47 We are going to be talking about how to tame your TV. 10:51 - I know what the kids I really don't want them to watch 10:54 like violence or scary movies and stuff like that. 10:57 - No, I usually... I watch everything! 11:00 - Our lives are stressful, we come home tired, we are looking 11:03 forward to doing something different. 11:04 And television gives us the chance to tune out. 11:06 - How would a child be different who watched a lot of television 11:11 - The brain is always plastic, so is plastic and 11:15 it can be modified. 11:17 - Next week on UP CLOSE: "Taming your TV" 11:21 Don't miss it! 11:34 - Welcome back to UP CLOSE! Today we are talking about 11:36 the problem of obesity and our special guest 11:39 is Dr. Gerard McLain, from Reading, Pennsylvania. 11:43 Dr. McLain earns his doctorate in public health from 11:46 Loma Linda University, he and his wife Catherine have 11:49 coauthored a cook book, tastefully vegan. 11:51 I must say I've had some of the cooking from that book, 11:55 it's an excellent book. 11:56 Please, welcome with me Dr. McLain! 12:04 Well, these are some testimony; isn't an interesting testimony 12:06 we've heard from Naomi? 12:08 - Is awesome what she's done, And she's doing the right things 12:11 In America today, over 2/3 of us, adults, are overweight 12:16 and 1/3 of us are actually obese. 12:19 Now, why is that important? Well, it's important because 12:22 the more weight we carry, in fact we are twice as likely 12:25 to die prematurely if we are obese. 12:27 - Twice as likely! So it's something that's really 12:30 sky rocketing, I mean I gave that statistic about 5 yr olds 12:35 that are even now overweight. 12:37 - We were finding that almost 25% of the Caucasian children 12:41 and 33% of the Hispanics and African Americans children 12:46 overweight in school today. When you think back when we were 12:49 in school, how many of our classmates were overweight? 12:52 There might had beet one or two; and today 1/3 of our children 12:57 are overweight and why? 12:58 - Why is that? Yes, why they do it? 13:00 - Primary reasons, same reason, adults are overweight. 13:03 We drive our kids to school every day, and I recommend that, 13:06 but they don't get enough exercise, and sometimes 13:09 physical education classes are no longer a part of 13:14 a required curriculum; and there are such an affinity 13:17 and a predisposition to eat too much of the fast foods 13:21 and the foods that are available today. 13:23 - What about the school cafeteria and pop machines? 13:27 - Well, those can be a real problem, too. In fact many 13:30 schools have taken out the soda pop machines, 13:33 and they replaced them with juice machines, 13:35 and that's healthy! 13:37 - So, that's better. You know, we had a dubious distinction 13:41 here in Kansas, and actually is in Garden City Kansas 13:44 were the first pop machines were allowed in schools. 13:48 They began to mark that up. And what about supermarkets, 13:52 you know, I noticed that they all the very high fat foods 13:55 right at the bottom were the kids can grab them. 13:57 - Well, the supermarkets are interested in selling the 13:59 products and I don't blame them at all. 14:01 And they will sell whatever we will purchase. 14:03 When we've gone and done cooking schools in very cities 14:07 where we've lived, in fact, my wife and I, we will visit the 14:11 store and there was a small section for tofu. 14:13 Three or four years later, they marveled and that 14:16 section is full and five times larger. 14:18 And they don't realize that we're there and were educating 14:23 the population to buy more tofu, to buy more healthy food. 14:26 You could buy all the healthy food you want in these regular 14:29 grocery stores we have today, you just have to re-educate 14:32 your taste buds to know what to choose. 14:34 - Let me ask you a more philosophical question. 14:38 What do you think it is that we're getting larger, 14:42 there are more bounce to the ounce, so to speak. 14:46 - Let me think back 50-60 years ago, our ancestors, even 100 14:51 years ago, when they went around through daily life, 14:57 they had to exercise. 14:58 Today, our daily lives involve walk into the car or the bus. 15:02 And then we sit to go where we've got to go, and then, 15:04 when we get there where we go, then we sit some more. 15:07 How many of us, when we go shopping, we cruise that 15:10 that grocery store and look for that parking spot, 15:14 right in front of the store. 15:16 You know, it's got your name on it. 15:17 And well, I tell you about that; park away over there, 15:21 so that you get some exercise going back and forth, 15:24 to and from the store. 15:26 And you won't be parking next to those unkind persons 15:31 who open their car door and smash it in your door, 15:35 and dent up your car. 15:37 So these are two benefits for parking away. 15:39 - Well, that's kind to lead into a question I wanted to ask. 15:43 When we are having this problem with too much fat and obesity, 15:46 what can we do to get off the fat? 15:48 - Well, one of the primary things we have to do is look 15:51 at our diet, and diet is very important. 15:53 It's really a good idea to attend cooking schools, 15:55 to attend weight lose classes, attend some seminars to learn 15:59 about the food that's good for you, you know, we need to be 16:03 eating fruits and vegetables, nuts and grains and 16:07 in moderate amounts; in fact, if we eat enough of those, 16:11 I don't object to some people eating some of the 16:14 other less healthy foods. 16:15 If they want to have some of the snack foods, ok, as long as 16:18 they've had 5 servings of fruits per day, 16:22 or 2-4 servings of fruits per day, 3-5 servings of vegetables 16:27 per day, 6-11 servings of whole grain products per day, 16:31 1 serving of protein foods, whether be soy or nuts, 16:35 and then, if you are still hungry, you can have some of 16:38 those less healthy foods but more desirable foods, 16:42 because of fat contents that are there and some of the 16:47 other things are there. 16:48 - You know, in some of the health programs that we've run 16:52 here at "Three Angels", Naomi was talking about coming to 16:56 a program here, we've found that when people come to us, 16:59 they really don't know how to find those foods in the store. 17:03 Isn't that true, Naomi? Did we help you to know how 17:06 to find things in the store? - Right, you told us where we 17:10 could find them and if there is some available 17:13 in the store that the church has. 17:15 - Now, in your class, did we have the shopping tour 17:17 during that time or did we not have at that time? 17:19 Many times we have like a shopping tour when 17:22 we take them in and we show them right where the foods are. 17:24 I don't know about you, but whenever I do the shopping for 17:26 a family which is not very often anymore, after I brought home 17:30 some of the things that my wife didn't think for essential... 17:35 You know, once you go to a store, you try to know exactly 17:39 where you want to go. You know what's on aisle 17:41 number 3, and aisle number 4 and you kind of 17:44 just go on an automatic pilot, right? 17:46 - And than they renovate the store and all panic breaks out. 17:50 It's something with a really good idea because you can 17:53 go to any the supermarkets and you can find the 17:55 healthy food when you know where to look. 17:57 - Let me ask you one of the questions and that is this: 18:00 Is fat addictive? 18:02 - I think we have to look at it from the point of view 18:05 of what makes food taste good. 18:06 Food taste good. What makes food taste good. 18:10 There are three primary ingredients. Number 1 = fat, 18:14 2 = sugar, and 3 = spices and salt is one we 18:22 are particularly concerned about because those individuals 18:25 with high blood pressure can have problems with salt. 18:28 So, is fat addictive? I think anything that makes us 18:31 feel good is addictive and if that fat makes you feel good 18:35 then yes, it can be addictive. 18:37 - Coming up next we'll introduce you to a man who lost 18:40 50 pounds through lifestyle changes. 18:43 Please, stay with us for his encouraging story. 18:53 Have you found those pounds piling up? 18:56 Are you struggling to loose unwanted weight but 18:58 haven't succeeded? 18:59 If so, we have just a book for you. Find help as you read 19:03 'Dieting. Victory from the gears of defeat' 19:06 For your free gift, just write to us today at UP CLOSE, 19:09 PO Box 220, West Frankfort, IL, 62896. 19:14 Or call during regular business hours at the shown phone numbers 19:21 Ask for UP CLOSE offering number 9. 19:35 Welcome back to UP CLOSE. Today we are talking about 19:38 how a good diet can help us overcome the weight problem. 19:41 Our next guest is Tim Healey from Battle Creek, Michigan. 19:44 His wife, Linda, had been concerned about his weight 19:47 for some time, but one day she run an announcement 19:50 in the newspaper that made all the difference. 19:52 Let's take a look! 19:55 In 1975 I was a young mother with two children. 19:59 I had married my high school sweet heart and I had watch his 20:02 muscular body frame becoming a little flabbier. 20:06 And he comes from a family that has a high incidence, 20:10 very high incidence of obesity and diabetes. 20:14 And I did not want to see what was happening to his family, 20:18 happening to him. 20:20 I wanted to keep him around for very long time. 20:23 I saw an advertisement in a newspaper that entailed 20:26 a day of activities for my children, one activity was for 20:30 myself and exercise class and another class of art or health. 20:35 It was advertised as a cooking school for vegetarians, 20:40 and I was very interested in that class. 20:44 And I signed for it and I was not disappointed. 20:47 The classes were for 5 weeks and then entailed 20:51 5 health principles or nutritional nuggets. 20:55 And the first class was on eating the healthy breakfast. 21:00 Around the table, designed for eating and to replace 21:04 the refined carbohydrates with complex carbohydrates. 21:08 And they gave us recipes and how to implement that. 21:12 I took that little nugget home and I asked my husband 21:17 enticed, literally enticed him, to say: 21:20 'Hun, we are going to get up early in the morning and 21:24 we are going to sit around the table, I am going to 21:26 make you a really good food, I am going to make you a 21:28 whole grain pancakes, I am going to make you good muffins, 21:31 and instead of eggs we're going to have scramble tofu, 21:36 and whole grain breads. 21:38 And he liked that idea. And as we incorporate that, 21:44 just that one principle, my husband started loosing weight. 21:49 - That's great, you know, is really important when 21:51 you're changing, to have what you are changing to taste good. 21:55 Well, the effect of this new way of cooking had immediate 21:59 results on Tim and his family, but at least initially 22:03 he had some reservations. Let's take a look. 22:06 - Linda came home from the cooking class; she was 22:10 interested in my health, of course, and she decided 22:14 to make some changes and she just wanted throw out everything 22:17 that we had and I just thought we could just eat it and then 22:21 not buy that refined things anymore, but she decided 22:24 that it was better that if it wasn't good for us, 22:26 it wasn't good for anybody, so she threw it out. 22:29 She began to replace our diet with truly something better, 22:33 she began to make whole grain pancakes and muffins, 22:36 as she said, and it was delicious, and I decided that if 22:42 she was going to keep feeding me well, then 22:44 I would go along with the dietary changes. 22:47 After a week or so, I realized that my suit was getting 22:53 a little looser and I was loosing some weight. 22:57 After a month I realized that I'd lost 25 pounds and I had 23:01 to get my suit altered, and so they took the pants in. 23:05 And I continued to loose weight. The second time I took my suit 23:11 in to get altered, the man said that I would have to get a 23:13 new suit because if I alter the pants anymore, I would only 23:16 have one pocked across the back, instead of two. 23:19 And so I bought a new suit and over about a 6 month period 23:23 of time I lost about 50 pounds. 23:25 Working as an accountant, I realized that I was able to 23:28 think a little bit clearer, do my work a little bit better, 23:32 and also we started walking more with our children 23:36 and I really began enjoying life a little bit more. 23:40 Shortly after the classes, my wife invited the instructors 23:45 over to our house and they gave me a personal cooking class 23:50 right in my living-room. 23:51 We began to visit these folks in their home, we started 23:55 Bible studies with them and really enjoy the changes in 23:59 lifestyle that the Adventist Church holds. 24:02 We began going out into the country, talking about gardening 24:06 talking about natural remedies, this type of thing which 24:10 appeal the both, my wife and I. 24:12 During this process, I realized there was more than 24:16 just the food involved, that it was an entire lifestyle change. 24:20 - Wow, that's great! You know, we're happy to have Tim 24:23 with us today and we'd like to ask him to come up. 24:26 So, let's welcome Tim together! 24:33 Good to have you here Tim, and let's see, 24:35 do you have one pocket or two? - No, I have two now! 24:38 - Now, you know, this is great, your wife carried you along. 24:44 She did. It was her insistence, because she was the cook and 24:49 I was the eater at that time. I figured that she was going to 24:53 cook things that I would continue to eat them 24:55 as long as they tasted good. 24:56 - So now she sees you with the muscular frame that she 24:58 talked about like when you are in high school again. 25:01 - Yes! Well, it took a little bit to get back to that. 25:03 It's a work of a lifetime, it's a transition that takes a while. 25:07 - How long did it take you to get used to eating 25:11 things that were good for you? - Most things took me not very 25:15 long at all because like I said, she was a good cook. 25:18 My wife and two children became instant vegetarians, 25:22 I still went out for lunch every day, I was required to 25:25 by work; and it took me probably about 6 right months to eat 25:29 a 100% whole wheat bread, because it was pretty tough. 25:32 - Do you mean, it was hard or tough? 25:34 - It was hard! - Ok! And was this bread... 25:37 This because of the taste. - Because of the taste, 25:40 and because she was learning how to bake. 25:45 That's a learning experience, also. 25:47 - Yes, sometimes those burnt sacrifices at the beginning 25:51 are not so easy to take care of. And how old were the kids when 25:56 these changes were made? - My children were two and 25:58 four at that time and it was an easy transition for them. 26:02 - Right. And now you said you eat out a lot, or you did 26:05 at that time. What did you when you went out to eat, how 26:09 did you find healthy foods then, or did you cheat a little bit? 26:13 - Well, I wasn't as convinced as she was it was the way to go 26:17 at the beginning, I was an accountant, the job I was on 26:22 at that time, was an audit of a large grocery store chain, 26:27 that had a salad bar. So I did begin eating a lot more 26:32 vegetables than I normally would have. 26:34 - So, the big change was breakfast and then just trying 26:40 to just move toward foods, foods as grown. 26:43 - At the beginning I cut out everything I considered 26:46 junk food, like my wife said, we began eating a big breakfast, 26:50 and I stopped eating in between meals. 26:54 We also began eating very little for dinner. 26:56 So we had a transition into almost a two meal a day plan. 27:00 - Interesting! And that simple change a lot. 27:02 How much was that you lost? 27:03 - It was about 50 pounds over 8-9 months. 27:05 - That's great. And you kept it off. 27:07 - I've kept a large portion of it off, but like the sedentary 27:10 job that I have, it's hard when I don't exercise. 27:14 - These people coming into your home and having 27:17 that personal cooking school, that was probably 27:19 quite amazing to you. 27:21 - That made all the difference in the world, 27:23 that made a deep impression on me because nobody 27:26 had ever taken that much of a personal interest in us before. 27:29 - And how long did the cooking school go on in your home 27:32 before you started talking more about some of the 27:35 philosophical things and the Christian background to health. 27:39 - Well, after the first class my wife went up to - this was 27:43 the class that she took - went up to the instructors 27:46 and said - she knew there was more going on then just health, 27:48 and she wanted to know what that was; so they gave her 27:51 a couple of books, one of which she stayed up 27:54 all night and read, and almost immediately after 27:56 that series of 5 classes, she invited them over to our 27:59 house and we had another 5 class series in our living-room. 28:04 - That's right! Now, how long after that is it 28:08 that you joined the Adventist Church, that faith community? 28:12 - Is about 6 months. - 6 months! 28:14 - The cooking schools led into Bible studies, because you have 28:18 to show somebody where all the health principles are 28:20 in the Bible and we did that and those health principles led 28:23 into other principles that we began studying as well. 28:26 - Now, you know. Do you help other people like 28:29 you were helped at this point? - We do! 28:30 I have a natural food store for business, so we deliver 28:33 good food to people all over the place... 28:35 - Whole wheat bread? - We deliver whole wheat grains, 28:38 and other whole grains, we also do nutrition classes 28:41 with our church and help as many people we can. 28:44 - Do you need tailoring on people's suits to 28:47 make them smaller? 28:48 - No, that's not an area of expertise I hold! 28:51 - Well, we were so happy that you were with us and we 28:53 are going to hear a little bit more from you a little bit 28:54 later in the program. When we come back, 28:56 we are going to be talking with Dr. McLain about 28:59 what we can do to take those pounds off and keep them off. 29:02 And a little later we'll be taking questions from 29:05 our live audience. So, don't go away! 29:14 We are going to be talking about how to tame you TV. 29:18 - I know what the kids I really don't want them to watch 29:21 like violence or scary movies and stuff like that. 29:24 - No, I usually... I watch everything! 29:27 - Our lives are stressful, we come home tired, we are looking 29:30 forward to doing something different. 29:31 And television gives us the chance to tune out. 29:33 How would a child be different, who watched a lot of television 29:37 - The brain is always plastic, so is plastic, 29:42 and it can be modified. 29:44 Next week on UP CLOSE! 29:48 Don't miss it! 30:02 Welcome back to UP CLOSE! We are talking about 30:05 the problem of obesity with Dr. Gerard McLain. 30:08 This was great, this testimony that we heard. 30:11 - It was awesome! One thing that Tim began 30:15 to mention was the support group that he had with people 30:18 coming back to his house, and maybe we should just 30:20 talk about that for a moment. You know, is no difficult to 30:25 loose weight, the difficult part is to keep loosing weight, 30:30 if you want to, and to keep off what you have lost. 30:32 And I'd like to ask Tim or Naomi, if they want to respond 30:37 to this, has there been the support group of individuals, 30:41 involved to help you be successful in your weight lost? 30:45 - Which one do you want to say first? 30:51 - Ladies first! There's been a terrific support 30:55 for me, we've been going to the chapel for classes once a month, 31:00 and you eat each other's food and you learn how to cook more, 31:04 and there is a good support group and I have a personal 31:07 friend that is doing it with me, also, and 31:09 that's been a tremendous help. 31:11 - And this support group, isn't something that should only last 31:14 for a few months. It may last for the rest of your life. 31:19 - And I think it's available! - Sure! Tim? 31:22 - We found the support group within the church and then, 31:25 by actively helping other people by doing nutrition classes 31:29 ourselves, we found that real support to ourselves as well. 31:32 - You know, a lady back in our church in Redding, Kim, 31:36 she lost about 80 pounds successfully in a program that 31:42 began in the church. They did on a regular basis, they involved 31:47 Bible study, exercise, food and bringing in recipes to share 31:53 with each other, and they continued to learn the 31:55 key principles to be successful with their weight loss. 31:58 - I think this is so important that they support structure... 32:01 Once you say probably around the world, if people are watching 32:04 that their local Seventh Day Adventist Church, 32:08 that's one of the things they bring to the occasion 32:10 in the Christian community, I mean, if you want to go 32:13 some places where they know at least something about health 32:15 and they are going to support it it may not be as much at 32:18 one place as another, but they are going to understand it, 32:21 they usually have a health food co-up, or they have this or that 32:23 and so, that's a good place for support. 32:27 - There's lots of programs available, in fact, you and I 32:31 both have been to Florida in February when they have 32:35 a health summer, and there are, at any one time 18 or 19 32:38 different programs where people can come and learn how 32:41 to be instructors when they go back to their church, 32:44 on various kinds of programs as cooking schools, 32:47 8 weeks to long us, weight management, depression, 32:50 many different programs that you can learn, 32:52 and our church is unknown for cooking schools. 32:56 - Yes, you know, even faith communities that are other than 33:00 Seventh day Adventist. I saw some people there at 33:02 that summer and you don't have to even be in the church 33:05 to know how to help people but certainly, that support 33:07 structure is there. Let me ask you a question. 33:09 We've talked about diet. Is there anything else we need 33:12 to do when we talk about weight loss? 33:14 - Yes, sure. Diet, being a key factor of course, 33:17 the second most important factor is making sure 33:21 you are involved in expending enough calories. 33:24 Is no trouble for us to eat lots of calories - in fact 33:28 that's what gets us in trouble - but when we don't 33:30 involve ourselves in enough physical activity, we don't 33:34 expend enough calories and we need to be expending 33:38 calories, at least 500-700 calories a day of exercise. 33:43 Now what does that mean? - Yes, how you figure that out? 33:48 - You figure that out, it takes about 100 calories a mile. 33:52 - Of whatever you're doing? - Of whatever you're doing! 33:56 - Driving the car? - No! 33:59 - Ok, you mean in terms of exercise! 34:02 - Walking or running or riding a bicycle. If you are swimming, 34:05 it might burn more, if you're riding a bicycle fast 34:08 you'd burn more, but the bicycle is actually eliminating 34:12 some of the gravity, so is not quite as much exercise, 34:14 unless you are really pedaling fast. But frankly, 34:18 it doesn't matter what kind of exercise you use, as long 34:20 as it increases your calorie output. 34:23 Now, no one should leave here and begin an exercise program 34:26 tomorrow because you might end up doing too much, too soon. 34:30 We need to begin gradually, you might want to talk with 34:33 your physician or physical therapist or some professional 34:36 medical person in your church, in your community, to learn 34:39 how to get started, but the important thing is 34:42 to get started. The key principle is you can do 34:44 anything as long as you can still carry on a conversation, 34:48 you are probably not exercising too much. 34:51 If you can't carry on a conversation because you 34:55 are huffing and puffing, you are exercising too much. 34:57 Is exercising too much harmful for you? 35:00 For most people no, some people it could increase your 35:03 risk of heart attack or raise your blood pressure to high, 35:07 but most people it just makes us two-three days later 35:10 were to stiff and sore, we realize that, aha, exercise 35:14 really isn't good for me because I feel bad now. 35:16 But if you start out gradually, it's really a good idea 35:20 for those that never exercised before, to join a 35:23 fitness center for three months and learn the principles. 35:26 They will teach you how to do it, slowly and safely. 35:29 Now, if you have the evidence of significant disease, 35:32 you need to probably see a physician and get a medical 35:35 clearance, but most physicians are going to recommend you 35:38 exercise anyways. 35:40 - Now you said that whatever you do, in terms of exercise, 35:45 if you go about a mile, it expends 100 calories. 35:48 A lot of people that have grown up within school systems 35:52 at one, everything they did that was exercise related, 35:55 was related to sports, it was related to basketball, 35:59 it was related to football, it was related these different 36:02 things and then, when they get out the school, they don't 36:04 have those teams, they don't have that support, 36:06 they don't want to join a team at the "Y" or different 36:09 things, and I think people really get in... it almost 36:12 cripples them in terms of their own personal exercise. 36:15 What would you say to them? 36:16 - Well, as we entered the work force, we leave college 36:18 or school where we entered the work force, we tend 36:21 to become sedentary. While is ok to continue involved 36:23 in some of these team sports, if you are up to it, 36:27 sometimes we get involved in weekends sports and 36:30 is too much for our 40, 50, 60 years old bodies and 36:34 we get injuries, but the important thing is to be active, 36:37 it's ok to do team sports but you don't have to. 36:41 One activity I really like is table tennis, because it's 36:45 inexpensive, anybody can play table tennis, you don't have 36:48 to be good to enjoy it, and when you chase that ball 36:51 around the floor, you're banding, twisting, you're 36:53 getting good exercise, and if you are good and your partner 36:57 is not, you should use your non-dominant hand, 37:01 while they use their dominant hand, it equals things out. 37:04 It's good exercise, so if you want to do things which your 37:07 children or your grandkids, this is one; you can go for a walk 37:11 you take your dog for a walk, you probably don't want 37:13 to take your cat because you are not much good for that. 37:17 I got cat at home, I got two dogs at home, but is good to 37:20 take your animals for a walk, your spouse for a walk, 37:24 and there are some social time that you can have in that. 37:28 - Right! Of course, if it's a huge, great Dane, 37:31 make sure you have a short leash; if it can get ahead 37:34 of you, it will be a problem. But what about you folks? 37:37 Naomi and Tim, what kind of exercise do you do? Or do you? 37:42 - Yes, I do, my wife and I walk a lot and I also play 37:46 basketball once or twice a week. - Ok! 37:49 And I walk a lot also, I try to do between 3 and 5 miles a day. 37:53 - 3-5 miles a day? Did you walk here? 37:57 - Oh, it's 60 miles here! - Oh, 60 miles! 38:00 Just if you started a few days ago. Oh, great! 38:03 - It will be best if we exercised every day. 38:06 - Every day! - Now, that's not always really 38:09 stick and so, generally recommend 5 days a week. 38:12 Now, three days a week is enough exercise to maintain your 38:16 physical fitness, or your fitness level. 38:19 If your fitness level is very poor, three times a week 38:23 is to maintain a low fitness level. 38:25 So we want to get to 5,I like to play and for exercising 38:28 every day, so if you miss one or two days because of weather 38:31 or committee meetings or other appointments, 38:33 you're still getting 5. Now, often times, people ask 38:37 the question: what about exercising all at once 38:39 and you can break it up in the different sessions, 38:42 and it all is a cumulative, and all works out. 38:45 It's ok to exercise 45 minutes or 60 minutes one time, 38:49 but you could do 20 minutes at a time or 15 minutes at a time. 38:52 If the weather gets bad... Does it ever get cold in Kansas? 38:57 - For Kansas it does, but people are grown up in other places, 39:01 they don't know what happens. 39:02 - Yes, it gets too cold outside, if it's too rainy, 39:05 you can go at the mall; the mall owners love you to go 39:09 to the mall, just leave your credit card at home, maybe. 39:12 - Now we want to shift a little bit, because we talked 39:15 a little bit about diet, we talked a little bit about 39:18 exercise, but what about this epidemic that's coming with 39:22 childhood obesity. If you get overweight below the 39:26 age of 5 or 10 or 15, 39:28 what kind of effect is it going to have later in life? 39:32 - Well, it's going to have a compounding 39:33 effect later in life because these young children had been 39:35 overweight longer. In fact, we're finding that 39:38 adult diseases are showing up in children and the one I am 39:43 particularly thinking about is type II diabetes 39:45 or adult onset diabetes. We typically use to see that 39:49 show up in the mid 40s, early 50s and now we're seeing it 39:53 in the early teens and the primary reasons are young people 39:58 are overweight, some of them are obese, and are not 40:01 exercising, they are not eating the right kinds of foods, 40:04 and they are coming down with these metabolic diseases 40:08 they used to show up in adulthood, in our 40s and 50s. 40:11 And when we have exposure to those diseases young, 40:15 we are going to get more complications early in life. 40:18 - More complications early in life! So it's really important 40:22 what society is trying to do to really bring this 40:26 fight against obesity to the floor. 40:28 - It's paramount, where we've got increased diabetes, 40:31 increased heart disease, increased cholesterols, 40:34 increased blood pressure, increased strokes and increase 40:38 of many cancers, all because of being overweight and obese. 40:42 - So let's say there is a family that's watching and 40:44 mum and dad are overweight, all the kids are overweight 40:47 and they say: 'Yes, this is right! We need to do this.' 40:49 What are the steps they need to take? Give me like 40:51 the top 5 steps they need to take! 40:54 - I think the first thing will be to find some people 40:56 who are teaching some healthy eating classes. 40:59 The Adventist church is teaching some in many communities. 41:04 There's lots of exercise opportunities in the YMCA's in 41:09 some of the fitness centers. And there's lots of 41:11 support groups that can be available, Curves is 41:14 an excellent program that's out there, I wish I'd thought of it, 41:17 but women get together in a little shopping center and they 41:22 exercise at certain times of the day. Particularly it doesn't 41:27 involve food, but they recommend good, healthy food. 41:30 - So cooking class... - Cooking class and exercise 41:33 class, and then some support group, whether they stay 41:36 involved in those cooking and exercise classes or join 41:39 some support groups, or create your own support group. 41:43 - What are some specific things about the diet? 41:47 - We need to be aware of the fat we eat, we should be eating 41:50 good fat and stay away from the bad fat. 41:53 And what is the bad fat? Saturated fat of animal origin 41:57 is harmful, it is more harmful to us when we eat too much, 42:00 or any for some foods, trans fatty acids are harmful too, 42:04 and these are vegetable fats that had been partly 42:06 hydrogenated. So, when you read the package 42:09 and we should all be taught how to read food labels, 42:12 we should eat nothing or very little foods that say 42:15 'Partially hydrogenated vegetable oils' 42:18 These are trans fatty acids and they act like saturated fats. 42:21 - So, avoid the saturated fats and the trans fats? 42:25 - Eat some of the good fats like nuts and seeds. 42:27 Nuts are high in fat but they are not fattening unless we eat 42:31 too many calories, you see? Is the calories that's your 42:35 problem, not the fat. We also need to be eating 42:39 the right kinds of carbohydrate. we have this phenomenon sweeping 42:43 the country, called low-carb diets and there's some good 42:48 and bad in those. The low-carb diets recommend 42:52 less carbs and they recommend more protein and fat. 42:55 Well, we need to be careful at eating too much protein and fat, 42:58 particularly animal origin, because they tend to increase 43:01 the risk of heart disease, cancer, stroke and diabetes. 43:05 The good carbs, a lot of people become confuse because they 43:11 see low-carb foods and they think they can eat lots of them. 43:15 They may be high in carbohydrates. 43:17 You can eat 500 calories worth of low-carb foods, 43:21 and it won't fill you up, you can eat 300 calories of 43:26 fruits and vegetables and lentils and you're full. 43:30 - Because of fiber? - Because of the fiber, because 43:32 of the quantity and the fiber. - Ok, so we have: 43:37 go to cooking school, get on an exercise program, 43:42 at the cooking school make sure they are teaching you about 43:45 the carbs, what's good fat, what's bad fat, 43:49 go to cooking school, have a support group... anything else. 43:51 Understand the importance of fiber, understand the importance 43:55 of drinking water, understand the importance of balanced 44:00 nutrition, understand the importance of portion control. 44:04 - Great! I'll go to Tim because he works with this all the time 44:10 you have people come in and probably asking you these kind 44:13 of questions. What do you say? 44:14 - The same things, drink water, exercise, whole grains, 44:19 nothing in between meals... - You just show them what to do. 44:24 Do you have people to come to your store because of 44:26 your knowledge and how you are helping them? 44:29 - Somewhat, yes. 44:30 - Do you and your wife do cooking schools and what not? 44:33 - Yes! - What about hunger pain? 44:35 - Hunger pains, ok, what about it? 44:39 - Does anybody have hunger pains? Is hunger ok? 44:41 You know, I tell people that when you are hungry, praise God, 44:46 because it probably means you don't have cancer. 44:50 Hunger is a good, natural, physiological response. 44:54 And when I get hungry, I look at my watch. 44:57 If is time to eat, I eat, if is not time to eat, I don't! 45:02 You respond to hunger pains differently once we teach 45:05 ourselves to respond to hunger differently. 45:08 We don't have to feed ourselves. Some of us had been raised with 45:12 parents who went through the depression years and when they 45:14 had real hunger for days. I guarantee you, hunger is not 45:21 going to hurt you. Now let's speak a little bit 45:24 careful. If you are diabetic, that's a little bit different. 45:27 Sometimes we can have severe low blood sugar reactions 45:31 that is mandatory, it's an emergency situation, we need 45:36 to eat something that gives us calories and quickly absorbed 45:40 calories, but that's a treatment situation, that's not something 45:44 we want to do all the time, so when we eat good 45:48 balanced carbohydrates with the adequate amount of 45:51 protein and fats, we are going to have a good breakfast, 45:55 like Tim mentioned, a good breakfast. 45:58 And 4 to 5 hours later, we are going to be hungry again 46:01 for a good lunch, and 4-5 hours later we are going to 46:05 be hungry again for a mild and modest evening meal. 46:08 - What about water? - Most people don't drink enough 46:13 water and is good not to drink with the meal but it's ok if 46:17 you do. I look at those as one of the minor things. 46:19 Is best not to drink with the meal but if you have to, is ok, 46:22 but if you are drinking enough water between meals, 46:24 you usually don't need to drink with the meal. 46:26 And you're drinking enough water if you have clear, or 46:31 almost clear urine at mid day, you're drinking enough water 46:36 if you have to use the restroom every 1,5 to 2 hours, 46:39 if you have difficulty sitting through a full church service, 46:44 you know you are drinking enough water. 46:45 Is good to be expelling that, because we know we're 46:50 drinking enough water. - Right, yes. 46:54 So, depends on how long the preacher goes to with that 46:56 church service. - True! 46:58 - It's exactly right! Well, when we come back, we're 47:02 going to be taking some questions from our live audience 47:05 so I hope that you could stay with us and maybe 47:07 we will ask you some questions that you are thinking right now. 47:17 Have you found those pounds piling up? Are you 47:20 struggling to loose unwanted weight but haven't succeeded? 47:23 If so, we have just a book for you! 47:26 Find help as you read: 47:27 'Dieting. Victory from the jares of defeat'! 47:30 For your free gift. Just write to us today 47:32 at UP Close, PO Box 220, West Frankfort, IL, 62896. 47:37 Or call during regular business hours 47:39 1-800-752-3226 or 618-627-4651. 47:44 Ask for Up-Close offer Number 9. 47:51 Up Close 48:01 Welcome back to Up Close. 48:03 We're talking today about how to lose weight. 48:05 And we're going to take some questions from our audience. 48:09 You know, before we take the first question; 48:11 someone was talking to me during the break and said, 48:13 if we lose something psychiologically, 48:16 that's a kind of a bad connotation, 48:18 wouldn't it be better to say, we're releasing weight, 48:22 instead of losing that? 48:23 what do you say about that? 48:25 I think that's a good principle. 48:26 When you lose something, you tend to want to find it again, 48:29 in fact, when our fat cells become, when they shrink, 48:32 when we don't follow the right principles, 48:35 it's very easy for them to fill up again, 48:37 when you lose that fat, it's very easy to find 48:40 and fill them up again, so it's a good principle to release it, 48:43 but, when you release something, 48:45 you need to fill it with something else. 48:48 I like how Tim said, that when his wife took away all his food, 48:53 please, let us finish it first! 48:54 You were so right, Tim. 48:56 And then she replaced it with wonderful food. 49:01 Ok, our first question, what's your name? 49:04 And what's your question? 49:05 Amy Gerard, and not Gerard, but Gerard. 49:10 And I have discussed problems with many people, 49:15 they often tell me, when I ask them, 49:19 how many diets have you been on, 49:22 and they can't even count them, there have been so many. 49:24 This type of yo-yo-ing up and down, and up and down, 49:29 what are the long range effects of this, 49:32 and is it possible to change a person's so called set point, 49:37 so that they actually in the end require much fewer calories 49:41 to keep going? 49:42 And what's the long range? 49:45 You know, you talk about this yo-yo effect, 49:49 where it's very easy to lose weight, 49:51 at least those first 25-30 pounds. 49:53 What's difficult is, is keeping that weight off, 49:57 and continuing to lose. 49:59 Now, we will lose, then we'll go on a plateau for a while, 50:01 then we'll lose, and go on a plateau. 50:03 This is where exercise becomes a key. 50:06 Exercise helps raise that metabolism, 50:10 assuming you have a normal thyroid to begin with. 50:13 Exercise will help raise that metabolism, 50:16 so you can continue to lose weight. 50:18 This set point you mentioned, is very key with exercise. 50:23 Now, in some of the studies, that were done 30-40-50years ago 50:28 when you look at the activity level of those 4 or 5 decades 50:34 ago, we find that they are much more active 50:36 than those of us today, in our decade. 50:39 And activity is very key. 50:42 Now, what is more important, diet, or exercise? 50:46 I don't like to answer that question, 50:47 because I think they are both important, 50:49 you cannot do one without the other. 50:51 The proper food in balance, 50:53 and the proper exercise in balance. 50:56 Now, most of us just don't get enough physical activity. 51:00 I don't like to use the word exercise, 51:01 because that brings up connotations of pain, 51:05 there is no pain-no gain kind of thing back in P.E. classes. 51:10 What I'd like to get us thinking about 51:12 is being more physically active. 51:14 I've conducted classes for individuals in wheelchairs, 51:18 to help them being more physically active. 51:20 Exercise for them is just as important as it is for you and I 51:24 And that set point is probably most critically 51:27 related to physical activity. 51:30 Thank you. 51:33 What's your name? What's your question, please? 51:35 Name is Kevin, and the question is related to breakfast. 51:40 Many people, frequently in trying to lose weight, 51:45 will leave breakfast off, as a way of losing weight, 51:49 thinking that if they eat breakfast, 51:51 it is going to increase their hunger later in the day. 51:55 maybe in the morning, or in the afternoon. 51:57 Is there a different thing that one can eat at breakfast, 52:03 that's going to not end up with hunger in the mid-morning? 52:08 I like to tell folks to eat as much breakfast as they want. 52:13 I make no limitations on the quantity of breakfast, 52:16 as long as it's healthy, you know, 52:19 the whole grains, the fruits. 52:20 Some people even eat vegetables for breakfast, 52:23 I can't do that. 52:24 But some people can, it's ok. 52:27 But what's important is, is the oatmeal, 52:29 the old-fashioned oatmeal, 52:31 the whole grain cereals, that we have, 52:33 the whole grain breads, and fruits, 52:35 I give absolutely no limitations on quantity for breakfast, 52:38 what I do like to limit, is food eaten after 6 o'clock, 52:45 should be none, in the evening, or just fruits, or salads. 52:51 That way it can be low in calories, 52:54 in fact, many people have said, 52:56 we should eat breakfast like a king, 52:58 and our mid-day meal like a prince or a princess, 53:03 smaller amounts, and then eat the evening meal 53:07 like someone, who doesn't have much food in the house. 53:10 That's very hard to do. 53:12 We typically don't eat much for breakfast, 53:15 we will eat maybe a little or lot for lunch, 53:18 and we eat a lot for the evening meal, 53:20 because it tends to be the only time 53:22 the family gets together for a meal. 53:25 But we need to reverse it. 53:27 We have our next question, please. 53:31 What's your name? What's your question? 53:34 I'm Linda. Being an ordinary nurse. 53:37 If a person has tried to lose weight, 53:39 and tried every way possible, 53:41 and still has not been able to lose weight, 53:44 is having a gastric bypass an acceptible measure to take? 53:48 Well, I think, you clinically have to make those decisions 53:51 with your own physician. 53:52 I think, it is an opportunity that some can have, 53:56 I would like to recommend we do the other first, 53:59 but if you can't do those, there are surgical opportunities that 54:03 can benefit some people, 54:04 but I've seen too many people have complications afterwards. 54:10 Well, yes, these complications come. 54:13 Are there, I guess, we would have to be specifically 54:18 for that individual, whether or not they have, 54:20 I guess, what do they do? 54:22 They staple the stomach, and different things like that. 54:24 Those individuals, who are morbidly obese, 54:26 can greatly benefit from those sorts of surgical interventions. 54:30 I would recommend those to your personal physician 54:33 and your personal medical condition. 54:34 Another question, please. 54:35 My name is David Green, I was wondering, if 54:41 is regularity important in weight management? 54:44 That's a good question. 54:46 I do recommend regular meals 54:48 We are creatures of habit, 54:51 and we contend to benefit from regularity times 54:54 for breakfast, lunch, and our evening meal. 54:56 Some can benefit from two meals a day, 54:59 most can benefit from three meals a day. 55:02 There are some individuals, think they need 55:08 5 or 6 meals a day, 55:09 but in clinics that I've been associated with 55:12 we put those on 3 meals a day, and they do just fine. 55:16 Next question, please. 55:17 What's your name and your question? 55:18 My name is Cindy Seward and I was just curious 55:21 about transfats, what exactly are their examples? 55:25 And, does it stay in your system? 55:27 And how long? 55:28 And is there a cleansing vegiment 55:30 that you need to get rid of the transfats? 55:31 That's a good question. 55:32 Transfatty acids are also called 55:34 these partially hydrogenated vegetable oils. 55:37 What the scientists have done, is 55:39 they created the vegetable oil for us to eat. 55:41 The first ones that came out years ago, was corn oil. 55:43 It's liquid at room temperature, 55:47 but when you add it into the baking and package food products 55:52 it doesn't have the longevity or shelf-life that we need, 55:55 and so they add some hydrogen ions 55:57 with nickel and cadmium catalists and they hydrogenate, 56:01 they add hydrogen ions to it, 56:03 they make it, they give it less double bonds. 56:09 All the double bonds are allowed to be kinked 56:11 and these kinked fatty acid should change into kinked, 56:14 they cannot alined themselves up tightly. 56:16 The saturated fats have no double bonds, 56:20 they can be allied very quickly, 56:21 and these vegetable transfatty acids can be allied very quickly 56:25 and they can create hardship in our arteries 56:28 when we eat too much of these fats. 56:29 So, transfatty acids act like animal saturated fats. 56:35 We thank you so much for the questions that you brought to us 56:38 and you know, this is, of course a huge subject 56:42 and we haven't been able to talk about everything, 56:44 that's been involved in the subject, 56:46 but I think we've got a good handle. 56:47 Not only diet, but exercise, and then support groups, 56:51 we've seen some excellent testimonies in different things, 56:54 that have helped us see 56:55 how people have moved from problems to solutions. 56:58 What would be your closing remarks 57:02 to just kind of cap this off? 57:04 Well, I think, we all ought to remember that God loves us, 57:09 whether we are overweight, whether we are obese, 57:11 whether we are thin, He makes no distinctions. 57:14 In fact, in 3 John 2, God tells us that 57:18 He wishes that we prosper and be in health, 57:21 and He wants us to be healthy. 57:24 But He also has to follow the laws of science. 57:27 That if we choose to eat too much of the saturated fats, 57:31 and choose no to exercise, or be physically active, 57:34 there are consequences to that. 57:36 Yet, He wants us to be happy. 57:37 He wants us to be healthy. 57:38 He wants us to be holy. 57:40 How can we do that? 57:41 Sometimes it's tough. 57:42 We have some emotional issues, or sometimes we want to eat food 57:47 to help us with some stressful times. 57:48 That's ok. 57:49 But if it gives us other medical problems,then maybe it's not ok. 57:53 It's important to get help. 57:55 Whenever you need help, get help. 57:57 We want to thank our guests today, 58:00 Naomi Coleman, Tim Heally and doctor Gerard McLane 58:04 for being with us. 58:05 You know, this subject of what we eat, when we eat it, 58:09 how we eat it, is much deeper for some of us, 58:14 or actually all of us, when we begin to ponder 58:16 the opening stories in Scripture, 58:20 where many things had to do with the fall of man 58:23 as it related to appetite. 58:25 Then we look at Christ's life we also recognize 58:28 that He was successful in this same struggle. 58:31 And I like a text in the book of Philippians, 58:35 that talks to us about how through God's power 58:40 He can work in us both to will and to do His good pleasure. 58:45 And as we look to Him, He can give us 58:49 both the desire, and the ability. 58:52 So I want nto direct your minds and thoughts to Him, 58:55 as the Master Physician. 58:57 Thank you so much for joining us in this UP Close. |
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