Hello! You are welcome to
another edition of Up close!
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We are coming to
you from the beautiful
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"Three Angels Seventh Day
Adventist Church" in Wichita,
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Kansas. And we are
pleased to have you with us
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Today we're going to be talking
about a subject that has become
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increasingly
serious in this country.
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In fact, it is the
second leading cause
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of preventable death in America.
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We are talking, of course,
about the problem of obesity,
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and even though we are some of
the most weight conscious people
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in the world, the problem
is getting worse and worse.
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In fact, this last year, in
America, I am told that we spent
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over 90 billion dollars
because of this problem.
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Those that are age 5 and
under, 18 million of them,
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are now considered overweight.
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We are going to be exploring
how we got this weight,
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what some of the contributing
factors are, and especially,
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what we can do about
it in today's program.
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Our first guest is Naomi
Coleman from Harper, Kansas.
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She has worked for years
as a secretary bookkeeper
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and today she enjoys
collecting and selling antiques,
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and in her leisure
time, she enjoys being
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with those grandkids.
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As a child, Naomi had no weight
problems and was very active,
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though she did not
eat everything that was
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completely right.
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However, in her
20s, Naomi found that
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the pounds started piling up.
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Listen to what she told
us a little bit earlier.
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- In my 20s, when the
kids were a little bit older,
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I noticed I was
starting to get weight.
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I was eating now more
often and I was fixing
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a lot of processed
foods, it was easier to fix
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macaroni and cheese and things
out of a box than it was to try
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to figure out how to
cook something correct.
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We didn't eat regular meals a
lot, at that time when my kids
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were growing up I was
divorced and so, a lot of times
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we didn't just sit down
and eat a three course meal.
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So, we ate more junk food and
the pounds started piling up.
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In my early 30s was when
I noticed that I was little
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too heavy and a couple
of times I'd thought about
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trying to loose weight but I
never really knew what to do.
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I would decide that I was going
to loose weight but deciding
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isn't enough, you
still have to be able to know
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what to do and how to do it.
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And our
lifestyle hadn't changed.
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I was still eating out
and when I'd go out to eat,
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I would have... you know, if you
went out to eat, you felt like
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you needed to have
something really special,
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like a steak and potatoes,
French fries and all the greasy
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and the things that
really aren't good for you.
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So, this time went on, I
just kept piling on the pounds,
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and I was about maybe 30
pounds overweight at that time,
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as I started gaining more
weight, I was starting to be
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a little more
embarrassed about being heavy,
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I was single at that time,
and you don't really want to be
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a fat single person, you
want to feel good about yourself
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you want to feel sexy, you
want to feel attractive, and
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I wasn't feeling those things
because I was getting heavier.
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A lot of times, I think, we
mask how we feel with humor,
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and that is one of my
biggest areas that I would do...
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you know, a fat
person is a happy person,
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everybody likes a happy person.
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And even though I didn't
feel good about gaining weight,
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I still didn't feel bad enough
to do anything serious about it.
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- Well, that's true,
isn't it true that things begin
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to creep upon us
just like Naomi said.
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And that's also true
when it comes to weight.
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We are glad that Naomi
Coleman is with us this evening
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and we'd like to welcome
her to the program at this time.
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Welcome Naomi! We are
glad that you could come
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and, you know, to talk about
this type of subject is not
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always the easiest thing to
do, so we are thankful that you
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could come and talk with us.
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You know, I noticed in that
clip that things just started to
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creep up on you, is that right?
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- That's right, they did.
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- And wasn't something that
was really a big deal at first
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but then it started to get
a little bit more something
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that came to your attention.
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- A little more noticeable!
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- Now, you know, as we
were talking, you told me that
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one day you were
talking to a close friend and
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I said something that
was kind of shock to you.
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- Yes, she told
me I was getting fat.
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- Did she say it just
like that? - Yes, she did!
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- She didn't
meander around at all?
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- No! - Well, how
exactly did she say?
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- 'You are getting fat, Naomi!'
- And how did you take that?
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- No, I just kind of...
I made a joke out of it.
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I knew I was getting
fat, I really didn't need her
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to tell me.
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- Well, did you tell her that
you didn't need her to tell you?
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- No!
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- But when she left, how
did you really feel about that?
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- Well, I knew she was right,
I was a little embarrassed
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about it, but I still didn't
know what to do about that.
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- And so, you were kind of
saying: 'What should I do next?'
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- Yes!
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- And there is no real help
that you knew of, but now you
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know that others knew
that you needed some help.
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- Yes! She offered to
tell me I was fat, she didn't
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offer to help me to get skinny.
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- O, that's the kind of people
that are... what did we say?
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What kind of people? The
kind we don't need, right?
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- Yes!
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- We asked Naomi about
what really made her decide
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to do something about her
weight and health in general,
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and here is what
she shared with us:
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As I got a little older and
I'd got and remarried, at first
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I had lost a little bit
of weight because of such a
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dramatic change in my
life, but then, as time went on,
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you come more contended
and it seems like everybody
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has needs for firs, and so I
still wasn't paying attention
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to what I needed
to do for myself.
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And it wasn't until just
the last few years that I have
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noticed that my health
was really being affected
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by my weight.
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I did try weight watchers at one
time, I did loose some weight,
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and that was probably the
first time I ever really learned
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how to cook
right, how to eat right.
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I still didn't
know how to cook right.
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I knew that, you know, I should
have fruits and vegetables
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and even though I've
always sort of known that,
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nobody was ever
really taught me that,
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and how important
that was to our health.
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About three years ago we
had a very exiting surprise
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from my daughter, she
told me that she was pregnant,
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and this was going to
be my first grandchild.
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And about that time I realized
how important it was that
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I started taking care of
myself if I wanted to be around
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and watch these
grandchildren grow up.
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During this time also my
health seemed to had been going
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stately down hill,
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and again, I just wasn't
sure what to do about it.
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I was having a lot of chest
pains, I was having a lot of
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acid reflux, I just caught every
single cold that went around,
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somebody could sneeze and I
would have a full blown cold,
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it seemed like every flu that
went around, I was catching,
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so I knew that there just
wasn't anything healthy about
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my body at that point and
I really, really needed to do
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something and I
needed to do it quickly.
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- So you knew that you had a
problem, your friend did share
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that with you, but
now you were sensing that,
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but you had another element
here, you had another reason:
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the grandkids.
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How many
grandchildren do you have?
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- I have three, now.
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- And you had how many
then? That was the first one?
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- That was the first one.
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- And then, these other two
were giving you more reasons?
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- Definitely!
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- O, that's great! So,
what did you finally do?
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- We heard about CHIP class
here at "Three Angels Church",
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and so I joined it and came.
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- It sounds like
an interesting class.
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What these 'chips' stand for?
Is that like chocolate chips,
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is that the Doritos chip, is
that potato chip, what is that?
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- That's what I had before.
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- Ok, so what is that,
what is the CHIP program about?
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- For Cardiac
Health Improvement Project.
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- Ok.
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- And it teaches you how
to eat right and why you need
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to learn to eat right,
what it does to you body.
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- So, you went to that
program, and they actually
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showed you what to do.
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- Yes, yes, they did. -
Did the food taste good?
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- It was a little interesting at
first, but it became very good.
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- Ok, now I understand. Did
they have you cook the food,
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or the other people
cooked before you there?
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- Well, they had samples
every night and that helped us,
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and then, every week-end,
every Sunday we had classes
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where we were able
to bring food, also.
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- Ok, great. And what happened
to you physically, what kind
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of physical changes
came as a result of that time
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in the CHIP program?
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Well, I started CHIP in February
and I've now lost 30 pounds.
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- February of
what, of this year?
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- Of this year! - And
you've lost 30 pounds?
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- Right!
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- So, how many
months ago was that?
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- It's 9 months
ago. - 9 months ago, ok.
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- And I kept if off, I
mean I took it off within the
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first 4 months but I've
been able to keep it off
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the whole time.
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- What about your
numbers, other numbers?
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- My cholesterol has
gone from 2.25 down to 1.89.
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- Wow, that's a
sizeable drop! - Yes!
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And I was taking High
Blood Pressure medicine
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and now I am not. -
Wonderful, you feel better!
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- I feel a lot better. -
And those grandkids have a
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more energetic grandmother.
- They do, I can now get up
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of the floor once I've
gotten down there with them.
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- Great, that's great!
Well, coming up next, we are
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going to be talking with a
doctor who deals with obesity
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every day, and we'll find
out what is causing our weight
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problems in America, why we eat
so much, and so, stay with us,
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we will be right back.
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Next week on Up Close.
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We are going to be talking
about how to tame your TV.
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- I know what the kids I
really don't want them to watch
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like violence or scary
movies and stuff like that.
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- No, I usually...
I watch everything!
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- Our lives are stressful, we
come home tired, we are looking
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forward to doing
something different.
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And television gives
us the chance to tune out.
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- How would a child be different
who watched a lot of television
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- The brain is always
plastic, so is plastic and
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it can be modified.
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- Next week on UP
CLOSE: "Taming your TV"
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Don't miss it!
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- Welcome back to UP CLOSE!
Today we are talking about
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the problem of
obesity and our special guest
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is Dr. Gerard McLain,
from Reading, Pennsylvania.
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Dr. McLain earns his
doctorate in public health from
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Loma Linda University, he
and his wife Catherine have
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coauthored a cook
book, tastefully vegan.
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I must say I've had some
of the cooking from that book,
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it's an excellent book.
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Please, welcome
with me Dr. McLain!
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Well, these are some testimony;
isn't an interesting testimony
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we've heard from Naomi?
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- Is awesome what she's done,
And she's doing the right things
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In America today, over 2/3
of us, adults, are overweight
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and 1/3 of us
are actually obese.
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Now, why is that important?
Well, it's important because
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the more weight we carry,
in fact we are twice as likely
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to die
prematurely if we are obese.
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- Twice as likely! So
it's something that's really
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sky rocketing, I mean I gave
that statistic about 5 yr olds
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that are even now overweight.
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- We were finding that almost
25% of the Caucasian children
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and 33% of the Hispanics
and African Americans children
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overweight in school today.
When you think back when we were
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in school, how many of our
classmates were overweight?
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There might had beet one or two;
and today 1/3 of our children
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are overweight and why?
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- Why is that?
Yes, why they do it?
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- Primary reasons, same
reason, adults are overweight.
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We drive our kids to school
every day, and I recommend that,
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but they don't get
enough exercise, and sometimes
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physical education
classes are no longer a part of
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a required curriculum;
and there are such an affinity
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and a predisposition to
eat too much of the fast foods
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and the foods that
are available today.
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- What about the school
cafeteria and pop machines?
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- Well, those can be a
real problem, too. In fact many
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schools have taken
out the soda pop machines,
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and they replaced
them with juice machines,
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and that's healthy!
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- So, that's better. You know,
we had a dubious distinction
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here in Kansas, and actually
is in Garden City Kansas
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were the first pop machines
were allowed in schools.
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They began to mark that up.
And what about supermarkets,
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you know, I noticed that
they all the very high fat foods
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right at the bottom
were the kids can grab them.
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- Well, the supermarkets
are interested in selling the
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products and I
don't blame them at all.
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And they will sell
whatever we will purchase.
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When we've gone and done
cooking schools in very cities
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where we've lived, in fact,
my wife and I, we will visit the
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store and there was a
small section for tofu.
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Three or four years
later, they marveled and that
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section is full
and five times larger.
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And they don't realize that
we're there and were educating
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the population to buy more
tofu, to buy more healthy food.
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You could buy all the healthy
food you want in these regular
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grocery stores we have today,
you just have to re-educate
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your taste buds to
know what to choose.
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- Let me ask you a
more philosophical question.
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What do you think it is
that we're getting larger,
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there are more bounce
to the ounce, so to speak.
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- Let me think back 50-60 years
ago, our ancestors, even 100
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years ago, when they went
around through daily life,
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they had to exercise.
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Today, our daily lives involve
walk into the car or the bus.
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And then we sit to go
where we've got to go, and then,
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when we get there where
we go, then we sit some more.
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How many of us, when we
go shopping, we cruise that
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that grocery store and
look for that parking spot,
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right in front of the store.
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You know, it's
got your name on it.
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And well, I tell you about
that; park away over there,
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so that you get some
exercise going back and forth,
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to and from the store.
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And you won't be parking
next to those unkind persons
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who open their car door
and smash it in your door,
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and dent up your car.
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So these are two
benefits for parking away.
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- Well, that's kind to lead
into a question I wanted to ask.
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When we are having this problem
with too much fat and obesity,
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what can we do
to get off the fat?
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- Well, one of the primary
things we have to do is look
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at our diet, and
diet is very important.
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It's really a good idea
to attend cooking schools,
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to attend weight lose classes,
attend some seminars to learn
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about the food that's good
for you, you know, we need to be
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eating fruits and
vegetables, nuts and grains and
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in moderate amounts; in
fact, if we eat enough of those,
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I don't object to some
people eating some of the
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other less healthy foods.
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If they want to have some of
the snack foods, ok, as long as
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they've had 5
servings of fruits per day,
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or 2-4 servings of fruits per
day, 3-5 servings of vegetables
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per day, 6-11 servings of
whole grain products per day,
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1 serving of protein
foods, whether be soy or nuts,
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and then, if you are still
hungry, you can have some of
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those less healthy foods
but more desirable foods,
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because of fat contents
that are there and some of the
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other things are there.
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- You know, in some of the
health programs that we've run
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here at "Three Angels", Naomi
was talking about coming to
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a program here, we've found
that when people come to us,
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they really don't know how to
find those foods in the store.
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Isn't that true, Naomi?
Did we help you to know how
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to find things in the store?
- Right, you told us where we
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could find them and if
there is some available
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in the store
that the church has.
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- Now, in your class,
did we have the shopping tour
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during that time or did
we not have at that time?
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Many times we have
like a shopping tour when
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we take them in and we show
them right where the foods are.
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I don't know about you, but
whenever I do the shopping for
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a family which is not very often
anymore, after I brought home
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some of the things that my wife
didn't think for essential...
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You know, once you go to a
store, you try to know exactly
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where you want to go.
You know what's on aisle
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number 3, and aisle
number 4 and you kind of
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just go on an
automatic pilot, right?
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- And than they renovate the
store and all panic breaks out.
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It's something with a
really good idea because you can
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go to any the supermarkets
and you can find the
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healthy food when
you know where to look.
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- Let me ask you one of
the questions and that is this:
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Is fat addictive?
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- I think we have to look
at it from the point of view
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of what makes food taste good.
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Food taste good. What
makes food taste good.
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There are three primary
ingredients. Number 1 = fat,
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2 = sugar, and 3 =
spices and salt is one we
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are particularly concerned
about because those individuals
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with high blood pressure
can have problems with salt.
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So, is fat addictive? I
think anything that makes us
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feel good is addictive and
if that fat makes you feel good
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then yes, it can be addictive.
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- Coming up next we'll
introduce you to a man who lost
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50 pounds through
lifestyle changes.
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Please, stay with us
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Today we are talking about
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how a good diet can help us
overcome the weight problem.
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Our next guest is Tim Healey
from Battle Creek, Michigan.
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His wife, Linda, had been
concerned about his weight
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for some time, but one
day she run an announcement
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in the newspaper that
made all the difference.
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Let's take a look!
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In 1975 I was a young
mother with two children.
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I had married my high school
sweet heart and I had watch his
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muscular body frame
becoming a little flabbier.
00:20:02.99\00:20:06.78
And he comes from a family
that has a high incidence,
00:20:06.81\00:20:10.79
very high incidence
of obesity and diabetes.
00:20:10.82\00:20:13.99
And I did not want to see what
was happening to his family,
00:20:14.02\00:20:18.45
happening to him.
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I wanted to keep him
around for very long time.
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I saw an advertisement
in a newspaper that entailed
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a day of activities for my
children, one activity was for
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myself and exercise class and
another class of art or health.
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It was advertised as a
cooking school for vegetarians,
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and I was very
interested in that class.
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And I signed for it
and I was not disappointed.
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The classes were for 5
weeks and then entailed
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5 health principles
or nutritional nuggets.
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And the first class was on
eating the healthy breakfast.
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Around the table, designed
for eating and to replace
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the refined carbohydrates
with complex carbohydrates.
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And they gave us recipes
and how to implement that.
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I took that little nugget
home and I asked my husband
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enticed, literally
enticed him, to say:
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'Hun, we are going to get
up early in the morning and
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we are going to sit
around the table, I am going to
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make you a really good
food, I am going to make you a
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whole grain pancakes, I am
going to make you good muffins,
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and instead of eggs we're
going to have scramble tofu,
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and whole grain breads.
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And he liked that idea.
And as we incorporate that,
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just that one principle, my
husband started loosing weight.
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- That's great, you
know, is really important when
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you're changing, to have what
you are changing to taste good.
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Well, the effect of this
new way of cooking had immediate
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results on Tim and his
family, but at least initially
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he had some
reservations. Let's take a look.
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- Linda came home from
the cooking class; she was
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interested in my health,
of course, and she decided
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to make some changes and she
just wanted throw out everything
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that we had and I just thought
we could just eat it and then
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not buy that refined
things anymore, but she decided
00:22:21.05\00:22:24.01
that it was better that
if it wasn't good for us,
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it wasn't good for
anybody, so she threw it out.
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She began to replace our diet
with truly something better,
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she began to make whole
grain pancakes and muffins,
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as she said, and it was
delicious, and I decided that if
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she was going to
keep feeding me well, then
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I would go along
with the dietary changes.
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After a week or so, I realized
that my suit was getting
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a little looser and I
was loosing some weight.
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After a month I realized that
I'd lost 25 pounds and I had
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to get my suit altered,
and so they took the pants in.
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And I continued to loose weight.
The second time I took my suit
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in to get altered, the man
said that I would have to get a
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new suit because if I alter
the pants anymore, I would only
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have one pocked across
the back, instead of two.
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And so I bought a new suit
and over about a 6 month period
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of time I lost about 50 pounds.
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Working as an accountant,
I realized that I was able to
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think a little bit clearer,
do my work a little bit better,
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and also we started
walking more with our children
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and I really began
enjoying life a little bit more.
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Shortly after the classes,
my wife invited the instructors
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over to our house and they
gave me a personal cooking class
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right in my living-room.
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We began to visit these
folks in their home, we started
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Bible studies with them
and really enjoy the changes in
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lifestyle that the
Adventist Church holds.
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We began going out into the
country, talking about gardening
00:24:02.57\00:24:06.48
talking about natural remedies,
this type of thing which
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appeal the both, my wife and I.
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During this process, I
realized there was more than
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just the food involved, that it
was an entire lifestyle change.
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- Wow, that's great! You
know, we're happy to have Tim
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with us today and we'd
like to ask him to come up.
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So, let's welcome Tim together!
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Good to have you
here Tim, and let's see,
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do you have one pocket or
two? - No, I have two now!
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- Now, you know, this is great,
your wife carried you along.
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She did. It was her insistence,
because she was the cook and
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I was the eater at that time.
I figured that she was going to
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cook things that I
would continue to eat them
00:24:53.15\00:24:55.10
as long as they tasted good.
00:24:55.13\00:24:56.13
- So now she sees you with
the muscular frame that she
00:24:56.16\00:24:58.54
talked about like when
you are in high school again.
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- Yes! Well, it took a
little bit to get back to that.
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It's a work of a lifetime, it's
a transition that takes a while.
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- How long did it take
you to get used to eating
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things that were good for you?
- Most things took me not very
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long at all because like
I said, she was a good cook.
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My wife and two children
became instant vegetarians,
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I still went out for lunch
every day, I was required to
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by work; and it took me probably
about 6 right months to eat
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a 100% whole wheat bread,
because it was pretty tough.
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- Do you mean, it
was hard or tough?
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- It was hard! - Ok!
And was this bread...
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This because of the
taste. - Because of the taste,
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and because she was
learning how to bake.
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That's a
learning experience, also.
00:25:45.12\00:25:47.04
- Yes, sometimes those burnt
sacrifices at the beginning
00:25:47.07\00:25:51.13
are not so easy to take care of.
And how old were the kids when
00:25:51.16\00:25:56.63
these changes were made?
- My children were two and
00:25:56.66\00:25:58.35
four at that time and it
was an easy transition for them.
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- Right. And now you said
you eat out a lot, or you did
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at that time. What did you
when you went out to eat, how
00:26:05.76\00:26:09.05
did you find healthy foods then,
or did you cheat a little bit?
00:26:09.08\00:26:13.35
- Well, I wasn't as convinced
as she was it was the way to go
00:26:13.38\00:26:17.61
at the beginning, I was an
accountant, the job I was on
00:26:17.64\00:26:22.28
at that time, was an audit
of a large grocery store chain,
00:26:22.31\00:26:27.14
that had a salad bar. So I
did begin eating a lot more
00:26:27.17\00:26:31.97
vegetables than I
normally would have.
00:26:32.00\00:26:34.16
- So, the big change was
breakfast and then just trying
00:26:34.19\00:26:40.55
to just move toward
foods, foods as grown.
00:26:40.58\00:26:43.92
- At the beginning I cut
out everything I considered
00:26:43.95\00:26:46.88
junk food, like my wife said,
we began eating a big breakfast,
00:26:46.91\00:26:50.72
and I stopped
eating in between meals.
00:26:50.75\00:26:54.05
We also began eating
very little for dinner.
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So we had a transition into
almost a two meal a day plan.
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- Interesting! And
that simple change a lot.
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How much was that you lost?
00:27:02.13\00:27:03.41
- It was about 50
pounds over 8-9 months.
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- That's great.
And you kept it off.
00:27:05.81\00:27:07.28
- I've kept a large portion of
it off, but like the sedentary
00:27:07.31\00:27:10.52
job that I have, it's
hard when I don't exercise.
00:27:10.55\00:27:14.25
- These people coming
into your home and having
00:27:14.28\00:27:17.94
that personal cooking
school, that was probably
00:27:17.97\00:27:19.87
quite amazing to you.
00:27:19.90\00:27:21.27
- That made all the
difference in the world,
00:27:21.30\00:27:23.66
that made a deep
impression on me because nobody
00:27:23.69\00:27:25.98
had ever taken that much of a
personal interest in us before.
00:27:26.01\00:27:29.75
- And how long did the cooking
school go on in your home
00:27:29.78\00:27:32.60
before you started
talking more about some of the
00:27:32.63\00:27:35.54
philosophical things and the
Christian background to health.
00:27:35.57\00:27:39.52
- Well, after the first class
my wife went up to - this was
00:27:39.55\00:27:43.46
the class that she took -
went up to the instructors
00:27:43.49\00:27:46.01
and said - she knew there was
more going on then just health,
00:27:46.04\00:27:48.43
and she wanted to know
what that was; so they gave her
00:27:48.46\00:27:51.62
a couple of books,
one of which she stayed up
00:27:51.65\00:27:54.12
all night and read, and
almost immediately after
00:27:54.15\00:27:56.55
that series of 5 classes,
she invited them over to our
00:27:56.58\00:27:59.96
house and we had another 5
class series in our living-room.
00:27:59.99\00:28:04.29
- That's right! Now,
how long after that is it
00:28:04.32\00:28:08.54
that you joined the Adventist
Church, that faith community?
00:28:08.57\00:28:12.59
- Is about 6 months. - 6 months!
00:28:12.62\00:28:14.84
- The cooking schools led into
Bible studies, because you have
00:28:14.87\00:28:18.72
to show somebody where
all the health principles are
00:28:18.75\00:28:20.49
in the Bible and we did that
and those health principles led
00:28:20.52\00:28:23.95
into other principles
that we began studying as well.
00:28:23.98\00:28:26.07
- Now, you know. Do
you help other people like
00:28:26.10\00:28:29.08
you were helped at
this point? - We do!
00:28:29.11\00:28:30.34
I have a natural food store
for business, so we deliver
00:28:30.37\00:28:33.94
good food to people
all over the place...
00:28:33.97\00:28:35.41
- Whole wheat bread? - We
deliver whole wheat grains,
00:28:35.44\00:28:38.66
and other whole grains,
we also do nutrition classes
00:28:38.69\00:28:41.87
with our church and
help as many people we can.
00:28:41.90\00:28:44.66
- Do you need
tailoring on people's suits to
00:28:44.69\00:28:47.41
make them smaller?
00:28:47.44\00:28:48.41
- No, that's not an
area of expertise I hold!
00:28:48.42\00:28:51.21
- Well, we were so happy
that you were with us and we
00:28:51.24\00:28:53.17
are going to hear a little
bit more from you a little bit
00:28:53.20\00:28:54.75
later in the
program. When we come back,
00:28:54.78\00:28:56.78
we are going to be
talking with Dr. McLain about
00:28:56.81\00:28:59.01
what we can do to take those
pounds off and keep them off.
00:28:59.04\00:29:02.85
And a little later
we'll be taking questions from
00:29:02.88\00:29:05.49
our live
audience. So, don't go away!
00:29:05.52\00:29:09.00
We are going to be talking
about how to tame you TV.
00:29:14.59\00:29:18.44
- I know what the kids I
really don't want them to watch
00:29:18.47\00:29:21.28
like violence or scary
movies and stuff like that.
00:29:21.31\00:29:24.52
- No, I usually...
I watch everything!
00:29:24.55\00:29:27.08
- Our lives are stressful, we
come home tired, we are looking
00:29:27.11\00:29:30.02
forward to doing
something different.
00:29:30.05\00:29:31.33
And television gives
us the chance to tune out.
00:29:31.36\00:29:33.59
How would a child be different,
who watched a lot of television
00:29:33.62\00:29:37.91
- The brain is always
plastic, so is plastic,
00:29:37.94\00:29:42.43
and it can be modified.
00:29:42.46\00:29:44.33
Next week on UP CLOSE!
00:29:44.36\00:29:46.41
Don't miss it!
00:29:48.04\00:29:50.15
Welcome back to UP
CLOSE! We are talking about
00:30:02.68\00:30:05.41
the problem of obesity
with Dr. Gerard McLain.
00:30:05.44\00:30:08.10
This was great, this
testimony that we heard.
00:30:08.13\00:30:11.77
- It was awesome!
One thing that Tim began
00:30:11.80\00:30:15.37
to mention was the support
group that he had with people
00:30:15.40\00:30:18.51
coming back to his
house, and maybe we should just
00:30:18.54\00:30:20.41
talk about that for a moment.
You know, is no difficult to
00:30:20.44\00:30:25.42
loose weight, the difficult
part is to keep loosing weight,
00:30:25.45\00:30:30.40
if you want to, and to
keep off what you have lost.
00:30:30.43\00:30:32.87
And I'd like to ask Tim or
Naomi, if they want to respond
00:30:32.90\00:30:37.56
to this, has there been the
support group of individuals,
00:30:37.59\00:30:41.53
involved to help you be
successful in your weight lost?
00:30:41.56\00:30:45.46
- Which one do
you want to say first?
00:30:45.49\00:30:51.34
- Ladies first!
There's been a terrific support
00:30:51.38\00:30:54.98
for me, we've been going to the
chapel for classes once a month,
00:30:55.01\00:30:59.97
and you eat each other's food
and you learn how to cook more,
00:31:00.00\00:31:04.92
and there is a good support
group and I have a personal
00:31:04.95\00:31:07.87
friend that is doing
it with me, also, and
00:31:07.90\00:31:09.83
that's been a tremendous help.
00:31:09.86\00:31:11.30
- And this support group, isn't
something that should only last
00:31:11.33\00:31:14.61
for a few months. It may
last for the rest of your life.
00:31:14.64\00:31:19.02
- And I think it's
available! - Sure! Tim?
00:31:19.05\00:31:22.62
- We found the support group
within the church and then,
00:31:22.65\00:31:25.75
by actively helping other people
by doing nutrition classes
00:31:25.78\00:31:29.24
ourselves, we found that real
support to ourselves as well.
00:31:29.27\00:31:32.87
- You know, a lady back in
our church in Redding, Kim,
00:31:32.90\00:31:36.96
she lost about 80 pounds
successfully in a program that
00:31:36.99\00:31:42.17
began in the church. They did on
a regular basis, they involved
00:31:42.21\00:31:47.68
Bible study, exercise, food
and bringing in recipes to share
00:31:47.71\00:31:53.13
with each other, and
they continued to learn the
00:31:53.16\00:31:55.44
key principles to be successful
with their weight loss.
00:31:55.47\00:31:58.54
- I think this is so important
that they support structure...
00:31:58.57\00:32:01.70
Once you say probably around the
world, if people are watching
00:32:01.73\00:32:04.80
that their local
Seventh Day Adventist Church,
00:32:04.83\00:32:08.39
that's one of the things
they bring to the occasion
00:32:08.42\00:32:10.79
in the Christian community,
I mean, if you want to go
00:32:10.82\00:32:13.13
some places where they know
at least something about health
00:32:13.16\00:32:15.66
and they are going to support
it it may not be as much at
00:32:15.69\00:32:18.35
one place as another, but
they are going to understand it,
00:32:18.38\00:32:20.98
they usually have a health food
co-up, or they have this or that
00:32:21.01\00:32:23.81
and so, that's a
good place for support.
00:32:23.84\00:32:27.08
- There's lots of programs
available, in fact, you and I
00:32:27.11\00:32:31.20
both have been to Florida
in February when they have
00:32:31.23\00:32:35.42
a health summer, and there
are, at any one time 18 or 19
00:32:35.45\00:32:38.75
different programs where
people can come and learn how
00:32:38.78\00:32:41.78
to be instructors when
they go back to their church,
00:32:41.81\00:32:44.50
on various kinds of
programs as cooking schools,
00:32:44.53\00:32:47.40
8 weeks to long us,
weight management, depression,
00:32:47.43\00:32:50.26
many different
programs that you can learn,
00:32:50.29\00:32:52.22
and our church is
unknown for cooking schools.
00:32:52.25\00:32:56.45
- Yes, you know, even faith
communities that are other than
00:32:56.48\00:33:00.40
Seventh day Adventist.
I saw some people there at
00:33:00.43\00:33:02.57
that summer and you don't
have to even be in the church
00:33:02.60\00:33:04.99
to know how to help people
but certainly, that support
00:33:05.02\00:33:07.37
structure is there.
Let me ask you a question.
00:33:07.40\00:33:09.37
We've talked about diet.
Is there anything else we need
00:33:09.40\00:33:12.35
to do when we
talk about weight loss?
00:33:12.38\00:33:14.03
- Yes, sure. Diet,
being a key factor of course,
00:33:14.06\00:33:17.90
the second most
important factor is making sure
00:33:17.93\00:33:21.37
you are involved in
expending enough calories.
00:33:21.40\00:33:24.78
Is no trouble for us to
eat lots of calories - in fact
00:33:24.81\00:33:28.23
that's what gets us in
trouble - but when we don't
00:33:28.26\00:33:30.15
involve ourselves in enough
physical activity, we don't
00:33:30.18\00:33:34.23
expend enough calories
and we need to be expending
00:33:34.26\00:33:38.67
calories, at least 500-700
calories a day of exercise.
00:33:38.70\00:33:42.97
Now what does that mean? -
Yes, how you figure that out?
00:33:43.00\00:33:48.15
- You figure that out, it
takes about 100 calories a mile.
00:33:48.18\00:33:52.28
- Of whatever you're doing?
- Of whatever you're doing!
00:33:52.31\00:33:56.35
- Driving the car? - No!
00:33:56.38\00:33:59.42
- Ok, you mean in
terms of exercise!
00:33:59.46\00:34:02.43
- Walking or running or riding
a bicycle. If you are swimming,
00:34:02.46\00:34:05.63
it might burn more, if
you're riding a bicycle fast
00:34:05.66\00:34:08.44
you'd burn more, but the
bicycle is actually eliminating
00:34:08.47\00:34:12.10
some of the gravity, so is
not quite as much exercise,
00:34:12.13\00:34:14.56
unless you are really
pedaling fast. But frankly,
00:34:14.59\00:34:18.16
it doesn't matter what kind
of exercise you use, as long
00:34:18.19\00:34:20.89
as it increases
your calorie output.
00:34:20.92\00:34:23.28
Now, no one should leave here
and begin an exercise program
00:34:23.31\00:34:26.77
tomorrow because you might
end up doing too much, too soon.
00:34:26.80\00:34:30.00
We need to begin gradually,
you might want to talk with
00:34:30.03\00:34:33.30
your physician or physical
therapist or some professional
00:34:33.33\00:34:36.50
medical person in your church,
in your community, to learn
00:34:36.53\00:34:39.64
how to get started,
but the important thing is
00:34:39.67\00:34:42.23
to get started. The
key principle is you can do
00:34:42.26\00:34:44.76
anything as long as you can
still carry on a conversation,
00:34:44.79\00:34:48.74
you are probably
not exercising too much.
00:34:48.77\00:34:51.93
If you can't carry on a
conversation because you
00:34:51.96\00:34:55.13
are huffing and puffing,
you are exercising too much.
00:34:55.16\00:34:57.89
Is exercising too
much harmful for you?
00:34:57.92\00:35:00.91
For most people no, some
people it could increase your
00:35:00.94\00:35:03.56
risk of heart attack or raise
your blood pressure to high,
00:35:03.59\00:35:07.06
but most people it just
makes us two-three days later
00:35:07.09\00:35:10.53
were to stiff and sore, we
realize that, aha, exercise
00:35:10.56\00:35:14.42
really isn't good for
me because I feel bad now.
00:35:14.45\00:35:16.61
But if you start out gradually,
it's really a good idea
00:35:16.64\00:35:20.39
for those that never
exercised before, to join a
00:35:20.42\00:35:23.45
fitness center for three
months and learn the principles.
00:35:23.48\00:35:26.42
They will teach you how
to do it, slowly and safely.
00:35:26.45\00:35:29.81
Now, if you have the
evidence of significant disease,
00:35:29.84\00:35:32.87
you need to probably see a
physician and get a medical
00:35:32.90\00:35:35.81
clearance, but most physicians
are going to recommend you
00:35:35.84\00:35:38.71
exercise anyways.
00:35:38.74\00:35:40.12
- Now you said that whatever
you do, in terms of exercise,
00:35:40.15\00:35:45.34
if you go about a mile,
it expends 100 calories.
00:35:45.37\00:35:48.61
A lot of people that have
grown up within school systems
00:35:48.64\00:35:51.97
at one, everything they
did that was exercise related,
00:35:52.00\00:35:55.83
was related to sports, it
was related to basketball,
00:35:55.86\00:35:59.63
it was related to football,
it was related these different
00:35:59.66\00:36:02.01
things and then, when they
get out the school, they don't
00:36:02.04\00:36:04.28
have those teams, they
don't have that support,
00:36:04.31\00:36:06.20
they don't want to join a
team at the "Y" or different
00:36:06.23\00:36:09.44
things, and I think people
really get in... it almost
00:36:09.47\00:36:12.24
cripples them in terms of
their own personal exercise.
00:36:12.27\00:36:14.99
What would you say to them?
00:36:15.02\00:36:15.99
- Well, as we entered the
work force, we leave college
00:36:16.02\00:36:18.24
or school where we
entered the work force, we tend
00:36:18.27\00:36:21.09
to become sedentary.
While is ok to continue involved
00:36:21.12\00:36:23.80
in some of these team
sports, if you are up to it,
00:36:23.83\00:36:27.39
sometimes we get
involved in weekends sports and
00:36:27.42\00:36:30.79
is too much for our 40,
50, 60 years old bodies and
00:36:30.82\00:36:34.13
we get injuries, but the
important thing is to be active,
00:36:34.16\00:36:37.28
it's ok to do team
sports but you don't have to.
00:36:37.31\00:36:41.18
One activity I really like
is table tennis, because it's
00:36:41.21\00:36:45.02
inexpensive, anybody can play
table tennis, you don't have
00:36:45.05\00:36:48.32
to be good to enjoy it,
and when you chase that ball
00:36:48.35\00:36:51.58
around the floor, you're
banding, twisting, you're
00:36:51.61\00:36:53.69
getting good exercise, and
if you are good and your partner
00:36:53.72\00:36:57.62
is not, you should use
your non-dominant hand,
00:36:57.65\00:37:01.15
while they use their dominant
hand, it equals things out.
00:37:01.18\00:37:04.62
It's good exercise, so if
you want to do things which your
00:37:04.65\00:37:07.75
children or your grandkids, this
is one; you can go for a walk
00:37:07.78\00:37:11.11
you take your dog for a
walk, you probably don't want
00:37:11.14\00:37:13.96
to take your cat because
you are not much good for that.
00:37:13.99\00:37:17.54
I got cat at home, I got
two dogs at home, but is good to
00:37:17.57\00:37:20.74
take your animals for a
walk, your spouse for a walk,
00:37:20.77\00:37:24.53
and there are some social
time that you can have in that.
00:37:24.56\00:37:28.28
- Right! Of course, if
it's a huge, great Dane,
00:37:28.31\00:37:31.71
make sure you have a
short leash; if it can get ahead
00:37:31.74\00:37:34.54
of you, it will be a problem.
But what about you folks?
00:37:34.57\00:37:37.30
Naomi and Tim, what kind of
exercise do you do? Or do you?
00:37:37.33\00:37:42.61
- Yes, I do, my wife and
I walk a lot and I also play
00:37:42.64\00:37:46.94
basketball once or
twice a week. - Ok!
00:37:46.97\00:37:49.74
And I walk a lot also, I try to
do between 3 and 5 miles a day.
00:37:49.77\00:37:53.82
- 3-5 miles a
day? Did you walk here?
00:37:53.85\00:37:57.04
- Oh, it's 60 miles
here! - Oh, 60 miles!
00:37:57.07\00:38:00.19
Just if you started a
few days ago. Oh, great!
00:38:00.22\00:38:03.27
- It will be best if
we exercised every day.
00:38:03.30\00:38:06.30
- Every day! - Now,
that's not always really
00:38:06.33\00:38:09.47
stick and so, generally
recommend 5 days a week.
00:38:09.50\00:38:12.81
Now, three days a week is
enough exercise to maintain your
00:38:12.84\00:38:16.85
physical fitness,
or your fitness level.
00:38:16.88\00:38:19.30
If your fitness level is
very poor, three times a week
00:38:19.33\00:38:23.15
is to maintain a
low fitness level.
00:38:23.18\00:38:25.29
So we want to get to 5,I
like to play and for exercising
00:38:25.32\00:38:28.46
every day, so if you miss one
or two days because of weather
00:38:28.49\00:38:31.59
or committee meetings
or other appointments,
00:38:31.62\00:38:33.21
you're still getting 5.
Now, often times, people ask
00:38:33.24\00:38:37.50
the question: what
about exercising all at once
00:38:37.53\00:38:39.90
and you can break it up
in the different sessions,
00:38:39.93\00:38:42.95
and it all is a
cumulative, and all works out.
00:38:42.98\00:38:45.94
It's ok to exercise 45
minutes or 60 minutes one time,
00:38:45.97\00:38:49.45
but you could do 20 minutes at
a time or 15 minutes at a time.
00:38:49.48\00:38:52.67
If the weather gets bad...
Does it ever get cold in Kansas?
00:38:52.70\00:38:57.04
- For Kansas it does, but people
are grown up in other places,
00:38:57.07\00:39:01.17
they don't know what happens.
00:39:01.20\00:39:02.17
- Yes, it gets too cold
outside, if it's too rainy,
00:39:02.20\00:39:05.75
you can go at the mall;
the mall owners love you to go
00:39:05.78\00:39:09.04
to the mall, just leave
your credit card at home, maybe.
00:39:09.07\00:39:12.58
- Now we want to shift a
little bit, because we talked
00:39:12.61\00:39:15.32
a little bit about diet,
we talked a little bit about
00:39:15.35\00:39:18.67
exercise, but what about
this epidemic that's coming with
00:39:18.70\00:39:21.99
childhood obesity. If
you get overweight below the
00:39:22.02\00:39:26.79
age of 5 or 10 or 15,
00:39:26.83\00:39:28.74
what kind of effect is it
going to have later in life?
00:39:28.77\00:39:32.13
- Well, it's going
to have a compounding
00:39:32.16\00:39:33.37
effect later in life because
these young children had been
00:39:33.40\00:39:35.61
overweight longer. In
fact, we're finding that
00:39:35.64\00:39:38.35
adult diseases are showing
up in children and the one I am
00:39:38.38\00:39:43.35
particularly thinking
about is type II diabetes
00:39:43.38\00:39:45.66
or adult onset diabetes.
We typically use to see that
00:39:45.69\00:39:49.27
show up in the mid 40s, early
50s and now we're seeing it
00:39:49.30\00:39:53.75
in the early teens and the
primary reasons are young people
00:39:53.78\00:39:58.20
are overweight, some of
them are obese, and are not
00:39:58.23\00:40:01.81
exercising, they are not
eating the right kinds of foods,
00:40:01.84\00:40:04.52
and they are coming down
with these metabolic diseases
00:40:04.55\00:40:08.07
they used to show up in
adulthood, in our 40s and 50s.
00:40:08.10\00:40:11.58
And when we have exposure
to those diseases young,
00:40:11.61\00:40:15.14
we are going to get more
complications early in life.
00:40:15.17\00:40:18.64
- More complications early in
life! So it's really important
00:40:18.67\00:40:22.66
what society is trying
to do to really bring this
00:40:22.69\00:40:26.59
fight against
obesity to the floor.
00:40:26.62\00:40:28.63
- It's paramount, where
we've got increased diabetes,
00:40:28.66\00:40:31.80
increased heart
disease, increased cholesterols,
00:40:31.83\00:40:34.48
increased blood pressure,
increased strokes and increase
00:40:34.51\00:40:38.39
of many cancers, all because
of being overweight and obese.
00:40:38.42\00:40:42.27
- So let's say there is a
family that's watching and
00:40:42.30\00:40:44.79
mum and dad are overweight,
all the kids are overweight
00:40:44.82\00:40:47.19
and they say: 'Yes, this
is right! We need to do this.'
00:40:47.22\00:40:49.56
What are the steps they
need to take? Give me like
00:40:49.59\00:40:51.36
the top 5 steps
they need to take!
00:40:51.39\00:40:54.14
- I think the first thing
will be to find some people
00:40:54.17\00:40:56.87
who are teaching some
healthy eating classes.
00:40:56.90\00:40:59.30
The Adventist church is teaching
some in many communities.
00:40:59.33\00:41:04.32
There's lots of exercise
opportunities in the YMCA's in
00:41:04.35\00:41:09.31
some of the fitness
centers. And there's lots of
00:41:09.34\00:41:11.90
support groups that
can be available, Curves is
00:41:11.93\00:41:14.43
an excellent program that's out
there, I wish I'd thought of it,
00:41:14.46\00:41:17.84
but women get together in a
little shopping center and they
00:41:17.87\00:41:22.68
exercise at certain times of
the day. Particularly it doesn't
00:41:22.71\00:41:27.49
involve food, but they
recommend good, healthy food.
00:41:27.52\00:41:30.54
- So cooking class... -
Cooking class and exercise
00:41:30.57\00:41:33.69
class, and then some
support group, whether they stay
00:41:33.72\00:41:36.71
involved in those cooking
and exercise classes or join
00:41:36.74\00:41:39.28
some support groups, or
create your own support group.
00:41:39.31\00:41:43.02
- What are some
specific things about the diet?
00:41:43.05\00:41:47.17
- We need to be aware of the
fat we eat, we should be eating
00:41:47.20\00:41:50.51
good fat and stay
away from the bad fat.
00:41:50.54\00:41:53.05
And what is the bad fat?
Saturated fat of animal origin
00:41:53.08\00:41:57.58
is harmful, it is more harmful
to us when we eat too much,
00:41:57.61\00:42:00.50
or any for some foods, trans
fatty acids are harmful too,
00:42:00.53\00:42:04.69
and these are vegetable
fats that had been partly
00:42:04.72\00:42:06.56
hydrogenated. So,
when you read the package
00:42:06.59\00:42:09.66
and we should all be
taught how to read food labels,
00:42:09.69\00:42:12.47
we should eat nothing or
very little foods that say
00:42:12.50\00:42:15.95
'Partially
hydrogenated vegetable oils'
00:42:15.98\00:42:18.25
These are trans fatty acids and
they act like saturated fats.
00:42:18.28\00:42:21.91
- So, avoid the saturated
fats and the trans fats?
00:42:21.94\00:42:25.13
- Eat some of the good
fats like nuts and seeds.
00:42:25.16\00:42:27.74
Nuts are high in fat but they
are not fattening unless we eat
00:42:27.77\00:42:31.64
too many calories, you
see? Is the calories that's your
00:42:31.67\00:42:35.63
problem, not the fat.
We also need to be eating
00:42:35.66\00:42:39.12
the right kinds of carbohydrate.
we have this phenomenon sweeping
00:42:39.15\00:42:43.61
the country, called low-carb
diets and there's some good
00:42:43.64\00:42:48.84
and bad in those. The
low-carb diets recommend
00:42:48.87\00:42:52.11
less carbs and they
recommend more protein and fat.
00:42:52.14\00:42:55.74
Well, we need to be careful at
eating too much protein and fat,
00:42:55.77\00:42:58.67
particularly animal origin,
because they tend to increase
00:42:58.70\00:43:01.08
the risk of heart disease,
cancer, stroke and diabetes.
00:43:01.11\00:43:05.27
The good carbs, a lot of people
become confuse because they
00:43:05.30\00:43:11.14
see low-carb foods and they
think they can eat lots of them.
00:43:11.17\00:43:15.26
They may be high
in carbohydrates.
00:43:15.29\00:43:17.58
You can eat 500 calories
worth of low-carb foods,
00:43:17.61\00:43:21.27
and it won't fill you up,
you can eat 300 calories of
00:43:21.30\00:43:26.10
fruits and vegetables
and lentils and you're full.
00:43:26.13\00:43:30.12
- Because of fiber? -
Because of the fiber, because
00:43:30.15\00:43:32.60
of the quantity and the
fiber. - Ok, so we have:
00:43:32.63\00:43:37.16
go to cooking school,
get on an exercise program,
00:43:37.19\00:43:42.49
at the cooking school make
sure they are teaching you about
00:43:42.52\00:43:45.22
the carbs, what's
good fat, what's bad fat,
00:43:45.25\00:43:49.18
go to cooking school, have a
support group... anything else.
00:43:49.21\00:43:51.52
Understand the importance of
fiber, understand the importance
00:43:51.55\00:43:55.44
of drinking water, understand
the importance of balanced
00:43:55.47\00:44:00.35
nutrition, understand the
importance of portion control.
00:44:00.38\00:44:04.88
- Great! I'll go to Tim because
he works with this all the time
00:44:04.91\00:44:10.15
you have people come in and
probably asking you these kind
00:44:10.18\00:44:13.22
of questions. What do you say?
00:44:13.25\00:44:14.93
- The same things, drink
water, exercise, whole grains,
00:44:14.96\00:44:19.82
nothing in between meals... -
You just show them what to do.
00:44:19.85\00:44:24.10
Do you have people to
come to your store because of
00:44:24.13\00:44:26.25
your knowledge and
how you are helping them?
00:44:26.28\00:44:29.69
- Somewhat, yes.
00:44:29.72\00:44:30.95
- Do you and your wife do
cooking schools and what not?
00:44:30.98\00:44:33.08
- Yes! - What about hunger pain?
00:44:33.11\00:44:35.87
- Hunger pains,
ok, what about it?
00:44:35.90\00:44:39.04
- Does anybody have
hunger pains? Is hunger ok?
00:44:39.07\00:44:41.91
You know, I tell people that
when you are hungry, praise God,
00:44:41.94\00:44:46.96
because it probably
means you don't have cancer.
00:44:46.99\00:44:50.28
Hunger is a good,
natural, physiological response.
00:44:50.31\00:44:54.41
And when I get
hungry, I look at my watch.
00:44:54.44\00:44:57.93
If is time to eat, I eat,
if is not time to eat, I don't!
00:44:57.96\00:45:02.24
You respond to hunger
pains differently once we teach
00:45:02.27\00:45:05.95
ourselves to respond
to hunger differently.
00:45:05.98\00:45:08.46
We don't have to feed ourselves.
Some of us had been raised with
00:45:08.49\00:45:12.25
parents who went through the
depression years and when they
00:45:12.28\00:45:14.43
had real hunger for days. I
guarantee you, hunger is not
00:45:14.46\00:45:21.77
going to hurt you. Now
let's speak a little bit
00:45:21.80\00:45:24.23
careful. If you are diabetic,
that's a little bit different.
00:45:24.26\00:45:27.88
Sometimes we can have
severe low blood sugar reactions
00:45:27.91\00:45:31.51
that is mandatory, it's an
emergency situation, we need
00:45:31.54\00:45:35.99
to eat something that gives
us calories and quickly absorbed
00:45:36.02\00:45:40.87
calories, but that's a treatment
situation, that's not something
00:45:40.90\00:45:44.86
we want to do all the
time, so when we eat good
00:45:44.89\00:45:48.55
balanced carbohydrates
with the adequate amount of
00:45:48.58\00:45:51.84
protein and fats, we are
going to have a good breakfast,
00:45:51.87\00:45:55.88
like Tim
mentioned, a good breakfast.
00:45:55.91\00:45:58.52
And 4 to 5 hours later, we
are going to be hungry again
00:45:58.55\00:46:01.20
for a good lunch, and 4-5
hours later we are going to
00:46:01.23\00:46:05.11
be hungry again for a
mild and modest evening meal.
00:46:05.14\00:46:08.81
- What about water? -
Most people don't drink enough
00:46:08.84\00:46:13.29
water and is good not to drink
with the meal but it's ok if
00:46:13.32\00:46:17.23
you do. I look at those
as one of the minor things.
00:46:17.26\00:46:19.42
Is best not to drink with the
meal but if you have to, is ok,
00:46:19.45\00:46:22.79
but if you are drinking
enough water between meals,
00:46:22.82\00:46:24.90
you usually don't need
to drink with the meal.
00:46:24.93\00:46:26.85
And you're drinking enough
water if you have clear, or
00:46:26.88\00:46:31.93
almost clear urine at mid day,
you're drinking enough water
00:46:31.96\00:46:36.00
if you have to use the
restroom every 1,5 to 2 hours,
00:46:36.03\00:46:39.89
if you have difficulty sitting
through a full church service,
00:46:39.92\00:46:44.04
you know you are
drinking enough water.
00:46:44.07\00:46:45.57
Is good to be expelling
that, because we know we're
00:46:45.60\00:46:50.71
drinking enough
water. - Right, yes.
00:46:50.74\00:46:54.08
So, depends on how long
the preacher goes to with that
00:46:54.11\00:46:56.75
church service. - True!
00:46:56.78\00:46:58.36
- It's exactly right!
Well, when we come back, we're
00:46:58.39\00:47:02.61
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Welcome back to Up Close.
00:48:01.36\00:48:03.12
We're talking today
about how to lose weight.
00:48:03.15\00:48:05.10
And we're going to take some
questions from our audience.
00:48:05.13\00:48:08.98
You know, before we
take the first question;
00:48:09.01\00:48:11.57
someone was talking to me
during the break and said,
00:48:11.60\00:48:13.91
if we lose
something psychiologically,
00:48:13.94\00:48:16.81
that's a kind of
a bad connotation,
00:48:16.84\00:48:18.72
wouldn't it be better to
say, we're releasing weight,
00:48:18.75\00:48:22.63
instead of losing that?
00:48:22.66\00:48:23.92
what do you say about that?
00:48:23.95\00:48:24.92
I think that's a good principle.
00:48:24.94\00:48:26.14
When you lose something, you
tend to want to find it again,
00:48:26.17\00:48:28.97
in fact, when our fat
cells become, when they shrink,
00:48:29.00\00:48:32.53
when we don't follow
the right principles,
00:48:32.56\00:48:35.32
it's very easy for
them to fill up again,
00:48:35.35\00:48:37.64
when you lose that
fat, it's very easy to find
00:48:37.67\00:48:40.07
and fill them up again, so it's
a good principle to release it,
00:48:40.10\00:48:43.39
but, when you release something,
00:48:43.42\00:48:45.52
you need to fill it
with something else.
00:48:45.55\00:48:48.73
I like how Tim said, that when
his wife took away all his food,
00:48:48.76\00:48:52.97
please, let us finish it first!
00:48:53.00\00:48:54.74
You were so right, Tim.
00:48:54.77\00:48:56.89
And then she replaced
it with wonderful food.
00:48:56.92\00:49:01.65
Ok, our first
question, what's your name?
00:49:01.68\00:49:04.49
And what's your question?
00:49:04.52\00:49:05.76
Amy Gerard, and
not Gerard, but Gerard.
00:49:05.79\00:49:10.53
And I have discussed
problems with many people,
00:49:10.56\00:49:15.38
they often tell
me, when I ask them,
00:49:15.41\00:49:19.08
how many diets have you been on,
00:49:19.11\00:49:22.16
and they can't even count
them, there have been so many.
00:49:22.74\00:49:24.11
This type of yo-yo-ing up
and down, and up and down,
00:49:24.14\00:49:29.77
what are the long
range effects of this,
00:49:29.80\00:49:32.29
and is it possible to change
a person's so called set point,
00:49:32.32\00:49:37.35
so that they actually in the
end require much fewer calories
00:49:37.38\00:49:41.90
to keep going?
00:49:41.93\00:49:42.96
And what's the long range?
00:49:42.99\00:49:45.56
You know, you talk
about this yo-yo effect,
00:49:45.59\00:49:49.03
where it's very
easy to lose weight,
00:49:49.06\00:49:51.06
at least those
first 25-30 pounds.
00:49:51.09\00:49:53.51
What's difficult is, is
keeping that weight off,
00:49:53.54\00:49:57.21
and continuing to lose.
00:49:57.24\00:49:58.99
Now, we will lose, then we'll
go on a plateau for a while,
00:49:59.02\00:50:01.33
then we'll lose,
and go on a plateau.
00:50:01.36\00:50:03.37
This is where
exercise becomes a key.
00:50:03.40\00:50:06.10
Exercise helps
raise that metabolism,
00:50:06.13\00:50:10.64
assuming you have a
normal thyroid to begin with.
00:50:10.67\00:50:13.44
Exercise will help
raise that metabolism,
00:50:13.47\00:50:16.49
so you can
continue to lose weight.
00:50:16.52\00:50:18.23
This set point you mentioned,
is very key with exercise.
00:50:18.26\00:50:23.96
Now, in some of the studies,
that were done 30-40-50years ago
00:50:23.99\00:50:28.51
when you look at the activity
level of those 4 or 5 decades
00:50:28.54\00:50:34.03
ago, we find that
they are much more active
00:50:34.06\00:50:36.21
than those of us
today, in our decade.
00:50:36.24\00:50:39.24
And activity is very key.
00:50:39.27\00:50:42.65
Now, what is more
important, diet, or exercise?
00:50:42.68\00:50:46.07
I don't like to
answer that question,
00:50:46.10\00:50:47.63
because I think
they are both important,
00:50:47.66\00:50:49.22
you cannot do one
without the other.
00:50:49.25\00:50:51.54
The proper food in balance,
00:50:51.57\00:50:53.77
and the proper
exercise in balance.
00:50:53.80\00:50:56.25
Now, most of us just don't
get enough physical activity.
00:50:56.28\00:51:00.01
I don't like to
use the word exercise,
00:51:00.04\00:51:01.83
because that brings
up connotations of pain,
00:51:01.86\00:51:05.66
there is no pain-no gain kind
of thing back in P.E. classes.
00:51:05.69\00:51:10.05
What I'd like to
get us thinking about
00:51:10.08\00:51:12.41
is being more physically active.
00:51:12.44\00:51:13.97
I've conducted classes for
individuals in wheelchairs,
00:51:14.00\00:51:18.38
to help them being
more physically active.
00:51:18.41\00:51:20.08
Exercise for them is just as
important as it is for you and I
00:51:20.11\00:51:24.07
And that set point is
probably most critically
00:51:24.10\00:51:27.72
related to physical activity.
00:51:27.75\00:51:30.49
Thank you.
00:51:30.52\00:51:32.99
What's your name?
What's your question, please?
00:51:33.02\00:51:34.97
Name is Kevin, and the question
is related to breakfast.
00:51:35.00\00:51:40.79
Many people, frequently
in trying to lose weight,
00:51:40.82\00:51:45.28
will leave breakfast off,
as a way of losing weight,
00:51:45.31\00:51:49.76
thinking that if
they eat breakfast,
00:51:49.79\00:51:51.30
it is going to increase
their hunger later in the day.
00:51:51.33\00:51:55.47
maybe in the
morning, or in the afternoon.
00:51:55.50\00:51:57.88
Is there a different thing
that one can eat at breakfast,
00:51:57.91\00:52:03.13
that's going to not end up
with hunger in the mid-morning?
00:52:03.16\00:52:08.44
I like to tell folks to eat
as much breakfast as they want.
00:52:08.47\00:52:13.78
I make no limitations on
the quantity of breakfast,
00:52:13.81\00:52:16.27
as long as it's
healthy, you know,
00:52:16.30\00:52:19.01
the whole grains, the fruits.
00:52:19.04\00:52:20.50
Some people even eat
vegetables for breakfast,
00:52:20.53\00:52:23.37
I can't do that.
00:52:23.40\00:52:24.39
But some people can, it's ok.
00:52:24.42\00:52:27.07
But what's
important is, is the oatmeal,
00:52:27.10\00:52:29.88
the old-fashioned oatmeal,
00:52:29.91\00:52:31.08
the whole grain
cereals, that we have,
00:52:31.11\00:52:33.67
the whole grain
breads, and fruits,
00:52:33.70\00:52:35.31
I give absolutely no limitations
on quantity for breakfast,
00:52:35.34\00:52:38.96
what I do like to limit,
is food eaten after 6 o'clock,
00:52:38.99\00:52:45.04
should be none, in the evening,
or just fruits, or salads.
00:52:45.07\00:52:51.64
That way it can
be low in calories,
00:52:51.67\00:52:54.26
in fact, many people have said,
00:52:54.29\00:52:56.75
we should eat
breakfast like a king,
00:52:56.78\00:52:58.64
and our mid-day meal
like a prince or a princess,
00:52:58.67\00:53:03.25
smaller amounts, and
then eat the evening meal
00:53:03.28\00:53:07.07
like someone, who doesn't
have much food in the house.
00:53:07.10\00:53:10.80
That's very hard to do.
00:53:10.83\00:53:12.70
We typically don't
eat much for breakfast,
00:53:12.73\00:53:15.94
we will eat maybe a
little or lot for lunch,
00:53:15.97\00:53:18.46
and we eat a lot
for the evening meal,
00:53:18.49\00:53:20.33
because it tends
to be the only time
00:53:20.36\00:53:22.38
the family gets
together for a meal.
00:53:22.41\00:53:25.16
But we need to reverse it.
00:53:25.19\00:53:27.07
We have our next
question, please.
00:53:27.10\00:53:31.83
What's your name?
What's your question?
00:53:31.86\00:53:34.15
I'm Linda. Being
an ordinary nurse.
00:53:34.18\00:53:37.52
If a person has
tried to lose weight,
00:53:37.55\00:53:39.44
and tried every way possible,
00:53:39.47\00:53:41.71
and still has not
been able to lose weight,
00:53:41.74\00:53:44.11
is having a gastric bypass
an acceptible measure to take?
00:53:44.14\00:53:48.69
Well, I think, you clinically
have to make those decisions
00:53:48.72\00:53:51.22
with your own physician.
00:53:51.25\00:53:52.32
I think, it is an
opportunity that some can have,
00:53:52.35\00:53:56.37
I would like to
recommend we do the other first,
00:53:56.40\00:53:59.48
but if you can't do those, there
are surgical opportunities that
00:53:59.51\00:54:03.16
can benefit some people,
00:54:03.19\00:54:04.50
but I've seen too many people
have complications afterwards.
00:54:04.53\00:54:09.94
Well, yes, these
complications come.
00:54:10.18\00:54:13.40
Are there, I guess, we
would have to be specifically
00:54:13.43\00:54:18.27
for that individual,
whether or not they have,
00:54:18.30\00:54:20.38
I guess, what do they do?
00:54:20.41\00:54:22.17
They staple the stomach,
and different things like that.
00:54:22.20\00:54:24.39
Those individuals,
who are morbidly obese,
00:54:24.42\00:54:26.83
can greatly benefit from those
sorts of surgical interventions.
00:54:26.86\00:54:30.08
I would recommend those
to your personal physician
00:54:30.11\00:54:33.19
and your personal
medical condition.
00:54:33.22\00:54:34.66
Another question, please.
00:54:34.69\00:54:35.86
My name is David
Green, I was wondering, if
00:54:35.89\00:54:40.98
is regularity
important in weight management?
00:54:41.01\00:54:44.45
That's a good question.
00:54:44.48\00:54:46.10
I do recommend regular meals
00:54:46.13\00:54:48.55
We are creatures of habit,
00:54:48.58\00:54:51.15
and we contend to
benefit from regularity times
00:54:51.18\00:54:54.19
for breakfast,
lunch, and our evening meal.
00:54:54.22\00:54:56.68
Some can benefit
from two meals a day,
00:54:56.71\00:54:59.66
most can benefit
from three meals a day.
00:54:59.69\00:55:02.56
There are some
individuals, think they need
00:55:02.59\00:55:08.01
5 or 6 meals a day,
00:55:08.04\00:55:09.53
but in clinics that
I've been associated with
00:55:09.56\00:55:12.13
we put those on 3 meals a
day, and they do just fine.
00:55:12.16\00:55:16.68
Next question, please.
00:55:16.71\00:55:17.68
What's your name
and your question?
00:55:17.69\00:55:18.71
My name is Cindy
Seward and I was just curious
00:55:18.74\00:55:21.64
about transfats, what
exactly are their examples?
00:55:21.67\00:55:25.43
And, does it
stay in your system?
00:55:25.46\00:55:27.12
And how long?
00:55:27.15\00:55:28.12
And is there a
cleansing vegiment
00:55:28.13\00:55:30.17
that you need to get
rid of the transfats?
00:55:30.20\00:55:31.54
That's a good question.
00:55:31.57\00:55:32.54
Transfatty acids are also called
00:55:32.55\00:55:34.47
these partially
hydrogenated vegetable oils.
00:55:34.50\00:55:37.42
What the
scientists have done, is
00:55:37.45\00:55:39.86
they created the
vegetable oil for us to eat.
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The first ones that came
out years ago, was corn oil.
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It's liquid at room temperature,
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but when you add it into the
baking and package food products
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it doesn't have the longevity
or shelf-life that we need,
00:55:52.13\00:55:55.18
and so they add
some hydrogen ions
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with nickel and cadmium
catalists and they hydrogenate,
00:55:57.72\00:56:01.93
they add hydrogen ions to it,
00:56:01.96\00:56:03.95
they make it, they
give it less double bonds.
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All the double bonds
are allowed to be kinked
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and these kinked fatty
acid should change into kinked,
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they cannot alined
themselves up tightly.
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The saturated fats
have no double bonds,
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they can be allied very quickly,
00:56:20.14\00:56:21.75
and these vegetable transfatty
acids can be allied very quickly
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and they can create
hardship in our arteries
00:56:25.24\00:56:28.25
when we eat too
much of these fats.
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So, transfatty acids act
like animal saturated fats.
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We thank you so much for the
questions that you brought to us
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and you know, this is,
of course a huge subject
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and we haven't been able
to talk about everything,
00:56:42.32\00:56:44.66
that's been
involved in the subject,
00:56:44.69\00:56:46.29
but I think we've
got a good handle.
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Not only diet, but exercise,
and then support groups,
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we've seen some excellent
testimonies in different things,
00:56:51.80\00:56:54.42
that have helped us see
00:56:54.45\00:56:55.46
how people have moved
from problems to solutions.
00:56:55.49\00:56:58.94
What would be
your closing remarks
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to just kind of cap this off?
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Well, I think, we all ought
to remember that God loves us,
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whether we are overweight,
whether we are obese,
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whether we are thin,
He makes no distinctions.
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In fact, in 3 John
2, God tells us that
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He wishes that we
prosper and be in health,
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and He wants us to be healthy.
00:57:21.75\00:57:24.53
But He also has to
follow the laws of science.
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That if we choose to eat
too much of the saturated fats,
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and choose no to exercise,
or be physically active,
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there are consequences to that.
00:57:34.37\00:57:36.50
Yet, He wants us to be happy.
00:57:36.53\00:57:37.83
He wants us to be healthy.
00:57:37.86\00:57:38.83
He wants us to be holy.
00:57:38.84\00:57:40.16
How can we do that?
00:57:40.19\00:57:41.38
Sometimes it's tough.
00:57:41.41\00:57:42.80
We have some emotional issues,
or sometimes we want to eat food
00:57:42.83\00:57:47.18
to help us with
some stressful times.
00:57:47.21\00:57:48.67
That's ok.
00:57:48.70\00:57:49.92
But if it gives us other medical
problems,then maybe it's not ok.
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It's important to get help.
00:57:53.42\00:57:55.59
Whenever you
need help, get help.
00:57:55.62\00:57:57.60
We want to thank
our guests today,
00:57:57.63\00:58:00.09
Naomi Coleman, Tim
Heally and doctor Gerard McLane
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for being with us.
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You know, this subject of
what we eat, when we eat it,
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how we eat it, is
much deeper for some of us,
00:58:09.31\00:58:14.04
or actually all of us,
when we begin to ponder
00:58:14.07\00:58:16.71
the opening
stories in Scripture,
00:58:16.74\00:58:20.09
where many things had
to do with the fall of man
00:58:20.12\00:58:23.21
as it related to appetite.
00:58:23.24\00:58:25.60
Then we look at
Christ's life we also recognize
00:58:25.84\00:58:28.84
that He was successful
in this same struggle.
00:58:28.87\00:58:31.85
And I like a text in
the book of Philippians,
00:58:31.88\00:58:35.91
that talks to us about
how through God's power
00:58:35.94\00:58:40.83
He can work in us both to will
and to do His good pleasure.
00:58:40.86\00:58:45.64
And as we look to
Him, He can give us
00:58:45.67\00:58:48.97
both the
desire, and the ability.
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So I want nto direct your
minds and thoughts to Him,
00:58:52.16\00:58:55.24
as the Master Physician.
00:58:55.27\00:58:57.03
Thank you so much for
joining us in this UP Close.
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