Hello everyone and welcome to
another 3ABN presents Up Close,
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we are coming to you
today from Calhoun, Georgia,
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the Seventh Day
Adventist church, and
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we would like to thank our live
audience for being here today.
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We're going to be talking
about Balancing work and family
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and more specifically balancing
our lives so that we don't
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end up being workaholics...
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I'd like to ask a few questions:
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Do you usually work
more than 40 hours a week?
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Are you concerned that if
you don't perform the task,
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it won't get done?
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Does the expression:
"Work hard and play hard"
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describe your life's philosophy?
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Or do you feel overworked
and under-appreciated?
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Well, if you said YES to any of
those or all of those questions,
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then this program is for you.
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Our first guest
is RobbieD Windham,
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a commercial artist
from Coleman, Texas.
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I was so surprised, I remember
an article long ago that I
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saw about her, and here we
are, in the same program...
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Today she lives on a large farm
with over 80 horses and lots of
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cattle - it sounds like work...
Oh, and sheep, too, I understand
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- I've got 16, Robbie, that's
more than I needed, for sure...
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But they keep
having babies! - Oh!
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You can do something
about that, you know?
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- Really, I don't know...
I've changed the water...
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- RobbieD knows what it's like
for life to spin out of control.
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She was only 17, when she
got married the first time,
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and was soon faced with
mounting problems, for which
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she could find no solution.
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She tried to burry
her problems through
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different kinds of addictions.
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But, it didn't help. And
here is what she told us:
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- Well, when my marriage was
falling apart, my husband was
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drinking a lot, I was drinking,
I was introduced to cocaine,
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and I found... to help
my emotions. Most addictions
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stem from emotions and the
pain that covered the pain...
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So I got heavily into
cocaine for 3 years...
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trying not to deal with the pain
and what I've been through...
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The Lord delivered me of
the cocaine addiction in '86.
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And that's the last time
I've ever used, or even desired
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to use that. I met a young man
in '86, and started dating him,
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I didn't understand alcoholism,
some people drink every day
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and some people drink every week
and I was dating an alcoholic
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and didn't realize it,
and married another one.
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I started my own business
in the mall with some friends,
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I was working for my Dad
full time, I was doing artwork
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in the showroom, and I started
painting clothing and ceramic
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dishes in the store in the mall.
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I was working 8:30-5 for my Dad,
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5-9 at the mall, with my friends
and Saturdays and Sundays
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at the mall and I was trying to
fill the void with my work and
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as I look back, I can see that I
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was trying to...
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...well, I was lost...
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I was searching, that's what
I was doing and I was trying
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the creativity that God
blessed me with, people would
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compliment me on what I was
doing and it made me feel better
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for a short period of
time. It's just like another fix
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is what I've found out and the
more I worked, the more people
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acknowledged what I did,
the better I felt for a while...
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...and... well,
actually I was converted in '93
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right in the
middle of all of this...
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I kind of gave up on myself,
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asked God to help me
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and I went and
joined the Adventist Church
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with the Revelation seminar
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and he has seen such a
transformation in my character,
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God changed me so much,
that he was baptized with me.
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And we started doing layman's
work and he would preach
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in San Angelo and
Woodville and Midland.
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I would work with pathfinders
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started working with Red Cross,
worked with Adventist Community
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Services, started again
trying to work too much,
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but it was good, it
wasn't overworking at that time
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but it got... as my marriage
started falling apart again
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later, he
started drinking again,
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which devastated
me, but as I couldn't
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correct the
marriage or the problems,
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and I was hurting inside,
I would go out and volunteer,
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trying to fill that hole.
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These cross addictions
I've seen, whether it was
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drugs, alcohol
or work, was all in
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trying to fill the hole
that God put in all of us
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that we would try
and search Him out.
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Until you find Christ
and put Him in that hole
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you will continue to look
for something to fill that void,
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and the work just consumed
me until I was so burned out
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and so exhausted from all of it,
I had to pull out of everything,
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the volunteers stuff, the church
stuff, I got to where I just
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felt numb from all of it.
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So, I've learned to
analyse what I'm doing
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and why I'm doing it, I
still volunteer for things,
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and I'm learning and
praying that God will show me
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where he wants me to
be, whether it's helping
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someone else, or volunteering
for Adventist Disaster,
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or whatever, but I've
learned that I can't do it all,
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I can just do so much.
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[Audience claps]
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Well, it's our privilege today,
to introduce RobbieD Windham,
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she's here, and Robbie,
I'd like for you to come on up
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on the platform with us. I
like her outfit, don't you.
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- Where are you
from? - Coleman, Texas.
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Right, she's a real Texan,
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and she's got pretty, red boots,
I have the black ones on today
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so we're matching there.
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So you love horses.
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I love horses,
had them all my life.
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Good pass time, but you
can work a lot in horses
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if you have too many, can't you?
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That's right, they're
a lot of responsibility.
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But you don't
look like a workaholic.
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I don't know
what one looks like.
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I think it's really
interesting that you mentioned
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cocaine, so there's drug
abuse, and then alcoholism,
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and workaholism, you
kind of put it all together.
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That's what I was saying
about the cross addictions.
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It doesn't matter which
- workaholic, alcoholic,
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drug addicts, money, it
doesn't matter which one
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you are cross
addicting to, you're still
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trying to fill
that void in your life
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and you've got
to find a balance.
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Danny, I know, many
times we reward people
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that work hard,
that work long hours.
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I got a lot of praise
for my art and for the things
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I was doing: Red
Cross, or ADRA, or whatever
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you're working in,
people praise you and thank you
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for doing those
things, and like you said,
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sometimes you feel like
maybe if you don't do it
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no one else will, so
you feel the pressure.
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This is before
you were a Christian,
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probably there's no workaholics
in the church, right,
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in the Christian
church? [Audience laughs]
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Yes, everywhere.
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So Satan can possible
eat people in ministry?
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Sure.
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I have to confess,
I think it's something
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I have to be very
careful about, it's because it's
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the Lord's work folks, you feel
like "it's the Lord's work,"
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"I can't quit when there's
one more place I can go to,"
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"one more time we
can witness to somebody,"
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"one more whatever... "
and tonight what we're actually
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going to be learning
about is that there's all sorts
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of addictions, but one of them
that Satan subtly works on us
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is right here in the
church: working too hard,
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and too often,
because all these things,
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would you say they
distract us from the Lord?
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I don't know if I
said it on the tape there,
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but I was in Pathfinders,
so a lot of the things
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that I volunteered
for were in the church,
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and I spread myself so
thin, and I think this happens
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to a lot of people, that
you're not doing any 1 job
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very well.
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And how do you know
you're falling into workaholism?
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I didn't realize it at
the time, I look back now
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and I can see what I was doing,
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but I needed to be specific
on where my talents were,
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how can I benefit
what area the best?
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And when the rest of your
family begins to fall apart,
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when you lose track of
a relationship with God.
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You can tell you're distant,
you don't have enough time
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to spend with God and pray,
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yeah, it's
going to fall through.
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Well, coming up next,
we're going to be talking
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to Shelley Quinn about what
it means to be a workaholic,
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and some of the
more common causes,
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so stay with us,
we'll be right back.
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Today we're going to
be talking about a subject
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that has become increasingly
serious in this country.
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In fact, it is the second
leading cause of preventable
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death in America.
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We ate more junk food and
the pounds started piling up.
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The man said I would
have to get a new suit
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because if I
altered the pants any more
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I would only have 1
pocket across the back
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instead of 2.
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Over 2 thirds of us
adults are overweight
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and 1 third are actually obese.
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Next week on up
close: [text on screen]
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Don't miss it.
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Welcome back to
3ABN presents Up Close.
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Today we're
talking about workaholics
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and how we can
balance work and family.
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We're pleased to have
Shelley Quinn with us.
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She's a Christian
author, and speaker,
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as well as Co-director of
"Word Warrior Ministries".
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She focuses on teaching an
understanding of God's plan
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for our lives, and how
the attitudes of our minds
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can be renewed through
the practical application
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of God's word.
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She also happens
to be the host of
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"Exulting His Word", a
program that can be seen
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right here on 3ABN
TV, and heard on radio.
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Shelley herself, has struggled
with being a workaholic
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and is happy to
share what she has learned
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in order to get others
get balance in their lives.
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- We need you
Shelley - Welcome Shelley.
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Thank you, we're
glad that you're here.
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It's such a pleasure to be here.
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Beautiful Calhoun, Georgia.
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It is beautiful, and
this is a beautiful church,
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thank you for having us.
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Great congregation, and
we're glad that they allowed
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us to come and
set up this big set.
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You heard RobbieD,
and what she was saying
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a while ago, and we want to
talk to you for a little bit,
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and put some
perspective on all of this.
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Would it be fair to
say that most of us suffer
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from time to
time, with our lives
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being out of balance.
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And what causes a
life to go out of balance
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is when we don't understand
the purpose for our life,
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and then our priorities
get mixed up and they get
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out of order, and suddenly,
that which is least important
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is getting the
most personal attention,
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while that which
is most important
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gets the least amount
of personal attention.
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A lot of people,
their families are suffering
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because someone doesn't
understand God's purpose
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for their life, they've got
their priorities out of order,
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so the people who are
closest to them suffer.
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Then, the
pressure begins to build,
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and the pressure
becomes constant,
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and once that happens,
peace just flies out the window.
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Suddenly, people find themselves
stuck in this situation.
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Now, if it begins to
truly spin out of control,
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we all have trouble
with balance, is that true?
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Today's world is so fast
paced, we all have trouble
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with balance,
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but when it really
begins to spin out of control
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then you can find yourself
looking at a real problem;
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it's an addiction, and
the sad thing about this
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is it's very insidious when
someone becomes a workaholic,
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doing more, more, more,
they get a lot of praise,
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they get a lot of
applause, and people
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don't look at
it as an addiction.
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I can tell you from
personal experience,
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I've been there
before, as a matter of fact,
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until God called me
into fulltime ministry,
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the Lord brought me out of it.
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But it's something that
we all have to be careful of.
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I'm wondering, how do you know
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when you're a workaholic?
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You said you start
spinning out of control,
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give me some examples.
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Let me say this first, I
want to make sure we strike
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a balance in this
program because working hard
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is something we
all need to be doing.
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Doesn't the Bible say:
"6 days thou shalt labor",
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some people need to understand
that part of the commandment,
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but there is nothing wrong with
self-sacrificing work either.
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When we know that it
is spinning out of control
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is when there's no peace,
when people are suffering.
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God is not the
author of confusion,
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He is the author of peace.
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Let me first say
that if you were to define
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a workaholic,
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let me say what it's not,
because I don't want anyone
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who may be a single
mother working 2 jobs,
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who has to do this to
survive, I don't want somebody
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to feel guilty that
they're a workaholic
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because they're
life is out of balance.
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Sometimes it is necessary
for us to do these things.
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A workaholic is somebody
who has a compulsive nature,
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they're actually
addicted to work,
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they're addicted to,
like RobbieD was saying,
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when people started praising her
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there was something
inside of her that needed that.
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In my case, I was a
perfectionist looking
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for approval and I, too,
fed off of people's praises
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because I was
so hungry for them.
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Shelley, often we
think of just the behaviour,
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just working
overtime and taking time
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just for the work,
rather than for family.
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I know it comes
from something inside,
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our emotions, the hole in our
lives that RobbieD talked about
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- but also from our
childhoods. - Absolutely.
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Can you talk a
little bit about that?
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Let me share something with
you: when 3ABN first called me
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and asked me to do an
Up Close and Personal,
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they gave me several
topics that I could chose from
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and I heard myself
saying: "Oh, I'll do the one"
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"on being a workaholic"
because I knew I had been
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a workaholic most of my life
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and that the
Lord had delivered me.
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It was so
interesting when I hung up,
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I thought:
"Lord, what do I say?"
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And I prayed, oh, I
prayed so hard about this
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and when I finally
was still before the Lord,
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this is what the
Lord impressed upon me:
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we can't understand
being a workaholic if we don't
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understand what causes
it, and I believe the Lord
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gave me, He led
me, through this,
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and this is interesting:
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if you were to say
this was the ground,
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and the workaholism is a
plant, there are 2 tap roots
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that go down deep,
and the Lord showed me;
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the first tap root
of being a workaholic
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is fear and insecurity, that's
what RobbieD was talking about.
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She had this insecurity
that she couldn't take control
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of what was
going on in her life;
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her marriage was
just falling apart,
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so she was very
fearful, very insecure.
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Now, we know that the
Bible says God did not
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give us spirit of fear,
He gave us a spirit of power,
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and love, and self-control,
well the second tap root
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is selfishness,
it's a self centeredness.
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Let me share 9 points
that the Lord gave me,
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and I'm going to
have to look at my notes
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because this, I feel, really
came directly from the Lord.
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If you look at these tap
roots, there's lateral roots
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that grow out from this;
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the first is on
the fear/insecurity:
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the avoidance and
escapism, when people are afraid
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to face life issues - once
again, I can turn to RobbieD,
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wasn't that what was
going on in your life RobbieD?
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You just couldn't face
the problems of that home,
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so she buried herself in
work. Another one is loneliness.
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I would say, again, this
bit's RobbieD because she was
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in a bad marriage and she
felt very empty and lonely
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in this bad marriage,
so she filled the void
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with work; sometimes
you'll see single people
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who are very lonely
and they will just...
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When I was single, that's
what I did, I just buried myself
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with work. Another lateral root
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is fear of failure,
all of these come off of
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the root of fear/insecurity.
There's a fear of loss
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of control, with an exaggerated
sense of responsibility,
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perfectionist - that's a root -
and you're your own worst rival
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when you're a perfectionist
because you are competing
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against yourself.
There's the "Martyr Complex",
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those who work and
self-sacrifice, but they do it
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for the wrong reason, they
want the praise from others.
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Unforgivingness and
bitterness is another,
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competition for
prestige, power and position,
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or greed, if somebody
becomes materialistic,
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living beyond their
means, serving at the altar
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of the
covetousness of credit cards,
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suddenly they're
forced to be a workaholic.
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Well put, well put!
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Well, we're going to
be back in just a moment
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talking to Pat
Mudgett. She found herself
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in a predicament of not
being able to say no at work,
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and a little later on
we'll be asking questions
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from our live audience,
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so we'll be
looking forward to that.
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Welcome to 3ABN
Presents Up Close.
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We're talking about the problem
of balancing work and family,
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or more
specifically, workaholism.
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Our next week is Pat
Mudgett from Berkeley Springs,
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West Virginia, and Pat
has only recently recognized
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that she is a real workaholic.
She works out of her home
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as a professional proof reader,
that sounds a little like me,
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and sales representative
for a line of books.
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She's chalk talk artists,
we have a lot of artists
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on this program,
and she volunteers
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for 2 other ministries.
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We need help too by the
way... Oh, maybe not from her...
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So not only 2 other ministries,
but 3 church committees
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that she serves on, she
also serves as a Sabbath School
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Superintendent - I'm
getting tired already -
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and a Sabbath School
teacher, church board member,
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she does the bulletin
too - the bulletin secretary.
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This lady's busy!
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As a perfectionist,
Pat, in her own words,
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is her own worst rival she says.
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Although talented, intelligent
and highly competent,
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she experienced the pain
of feeling that she never
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quite measured up, hungry for
approval, Pat couldn't say no
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to anyone, she kept
piling project on top of project
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and suffered the
constant frustration of always
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being behind schedule.
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We caught up with her recently
and asked her to describe
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what happened,
here's what she said:
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I've always enjoyed
being appreciated by people,
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getting complemented, getting
told that I'm good at things,
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work just seemed to be a
perfect way to get the strokes
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that I was looking for.
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I volunteered a lot... a lot!
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Just doing a job well
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drew people to say nice
things about my intelligence
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and my
capabilities and all of that;
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I really needed a way
to get that need satisfied.
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I just kept piling the
plate fuller and fuller,
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and never seemed to say
no, no wasn't in my vocabulary,
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but I had telling point,
there were places where I would
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stop and tell my husband,
not often, but I would say it
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with regularity, that I was
frustrated because I was giving
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away so many chunks of my time,
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my life wasn't my own anymore,
it belonged to everybody else
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and I really wasn't
living a life that I could enjoy
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because there was no
spaces in it for me to be
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really me.
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I would talk to my husband
about spending time together,
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really hungry for
personal time with him,
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not just going out
to be with other people,
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but just the 2 of us,
just going out to the park
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or whatever.
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As much as I complained
about it, I never seemed
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to make room for it, so I
would say: "No, not now. "
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And then something would
interfere with the next time,
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and pretty soon we
had just chopped up
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all of our opportunities.
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So I would beg
for it on the one hand
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and then I wouldn't make
room for it on the other.
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A few years ago I attended
a stress management seminar
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and the fellow asked a
question about self evaluation,
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rate yourself a type
A, which is heart attack
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waiting to happen, or a
type B, which is laid back,
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fun loving, unruffled,
and I didn't really realize
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who I was, I
said I was a type B.
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My friends just
laughed out loud at me
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and they said "you really
need to look in the mirror"
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"and see yourself
for who you are. "
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"You are a textbook,
classic case of workaholism. "
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It was like a cycle that would
happen over and over again,
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it would start out
slow, it would build momentum,
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I would take on huge
jobs, one beside the other,
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so I was doing all of these
things abreast of each other,
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and it would build to the
place where people would ask me
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if I could take on
any more and I would say
00:26:03.41\00:26:05.21
"Sure, no problem. "
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And I could take on the
big loads, but I didn't realize
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that I was coming treacherously
close to that point
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where that a little
nothing would break it over,
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and I would take on that little
nothing, something would happen,
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and that brought about a
secondary, humungous burden
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and that was an emotional
one, the one that would
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condemn me for not
doing that perfect job
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that that inner task
master would require of me,
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so I came under a
load of discouragement,
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a load of condemnation
because I just wasn't
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answering up.
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Over the course of a
year, better than a year,
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of being
acquainted with Shelley,
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she would call
routinely and say:
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"What are you
doing?" and I would tell her
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I was busy, well I
had never told her exactly
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what I was
doing when I was busy.
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Fairly recently I
emailed her and gave her a list
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of all the
things that I was doing.
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She emailed me a
page and a half, she said:
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"You are overcommitted,
you're a workaholic,"
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"it takes one to know one. "
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I think it's the first time
that I really paid attention
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to the fact that I
might be a workaholic.
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I'm glad that
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God helped me to recognize that,
00:27:15.39\00:27:17.62
I'm glad that He
finally showed me the mirror
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of my own life
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because I wasn't paying
any attention before this.
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Well, I would
like to know the ratio,
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and some day we may get
to, between men and women;
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I kind of thought, being a man,
that men were mostly workaholics
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but it seems like
women deal with this
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same thing.
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In fact, I was interested,
we have all these women
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on this program, but I think
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it's a problem for all of
us, and I'm glad Pat is here
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to talk with us.
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Come on up Pat.
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It's a privilege to
have you here with us
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for this Up Close program.
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We heard what you
had to say on video
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and you said you
didn't even realize it.
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I think that hit
me pretty profoundly
00:28:06.95\00:28:09.69
that you wanted to
put yourself in the easy,
00:28:09.73\00:28:12.77
laid back class of
people, but you found out
00:28:12.80\00:28:15.81
everybody laughed at you.
00:28:15.84\00:28:17.22
So, it appears to me
that you can be a workaholic,
00:28:17.26\00:28:20.80
maybe even to the dangerous
areas, and not even know it.
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I didn't even realize I was one,
00:28:25.17\00:28:28.19
I don't know why
I hadn't seen it.
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Your husband
recognized this a little bit.
00:28:32.21\00:28:35.76
He did, he would call it
to my attention routinely,
00:28:35.80\00:28:38.60
he'd say "Aren't
you taking on too much?
00:28:38.63\00:28:42.26
I wasn't feeling it,
so I would say: "No. "
00:28:42.30\00:28:45.90
and just keep on
adding to the plate.
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Other than that open
hole that you had saying:
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"I really want to
spend more time with him,"
00:28:51.31\00:28:53.61
"but I've got all
these projects that I've"
00:28:53.65\00:28:55.92
"got to do perfectly. "
00:28:55.95\00:28:57.96
That's the way it
played out. He would say:
00:28:58.00\00:29:00.64
"Why don't we go
bicycle riding today?"
00:29:00.68\00:29:03.25
And I'd say: "well, I'm
in the middle of a project"
00:29:03.29\00:29:06.33
and I had to finish it, I
had the sense that if I got
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on a roll I had to complete
it or I'd lose momentum,
00:29:10.16\00:29:13.10
and then I'd just stop
without really doing a good job,
00:29:13.14\00:29:16.05
so I'd have to keep going.
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Did you folks
ever say that to you?
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You need to
complete what you start,
00:29:19.87\00:29:23.01
the importance
of doing a good job
00:29:23.05\00:29:26.12
- with everything you
try. - Kay's degree's in child
00:29:26.16\00:29:28.03
- guidance and all of that.
- You can tell it's coming now.
00:29:28.07\00:29:30.73
She's going to get back
to: "When you were a child"
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"what did your
folks...?" that's good Kay.
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Yeah, because we do,
without thinking we do that
00:29:34.99\00:29:37.89
as parents so often.
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My dad had a high
standard, he held it up
00:29:39.91\00:29:42.41
for both me and my twin sister.
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Not that that's wrong, but
if you've perfectionistic kid
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that holds on to it, it
can become dysfunctional.
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My sister didn't
seem to be affected by it,
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that's interesting.
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So how did your family
then react and what happened?
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Well, my husband is my
primary family right now,
00:30:05.92\00:30:08.53
but I have 2 daughters
that live within an hour
00:30:08.56\00:30:11.14
of me, and they
have my grandchildren.
00:30:11.17\00:30:14.31
So, my husband, I
mentioned that he would ask me
00:30:14.62\00:30:18.30
to go out places
with him after my demands,
00:30:18.33\00:30:20.66
and then I
wouldn't follow through,
00:30:20.69\00:30:22.39
but my daughter would
call routinely and she'd say
00:30:22.43\00:30:24.60
"you haven't been
over for a while,"
00:30:24.63\00:30:25.78
"when are you coming
to see the grandchildren?"
00:30:25.82\00:30:28.21
As you know,
having grandchildren...
00:30:28.45\00:30:30.55
...It's wonderful, but we
need to be there for them.
00:30:30.59\00:30:33.06
- That's right.
- We certainly do.
00:30:33.09\00:30:35.08
I'm struggling
with the same thing.
00:30:35.11\00:30:37.37
What is it that
really made you see?
00:30:37.41\00:30:39.60
I guess you said you have
a friend who loved you enough
00:30:39.64\00:30:42.37
to say something to you,
and maybe some of your friends,
00:30:42.41\00:30:45.11
but how are you
dealing with that?
00:30:45.14\00:30:46.55
Are you finding that you're
able to cope with not having
00:30:46.59\00:30:51.07
the guilt of saying: "I
just can't... I can only do "
00:30:51.10\00:30:53.86
"so many things"?
00:30:53.89\00:30:55.49
Well, my discovery of
my condition, my workaholic
00:30:55.53\00:31:00.60
condition is only very recent,
but I did have an occasion
00:31:00.64\00:31:04.22
just after finding out
about it where I said no
00:31:04.25\00:31:08.22
spontaneously to somebody
who asked me to do something,
00:31:08.26\00:31:10.64
and I actually felt
rather good about it.
00:31:10.67\00:31:12.30
[Audience and Danny laughs]
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Alright, well that's good.
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That's when healing
comes, when you can do that.
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Coming up next
we're going to find out
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how we can recover
from the addiction of work,
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and how to truly find
balance in our lives with God
00:31:24.63\00:31:29.24
as our guide, so stay
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Welcome back to 3ABN's Up Close.
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We're talking about
balancing work and family,
00:32:38.09\00:32:41.67
and the problem of workaholism.
00:32:41.70\00:32:44.42
Our special guest
today is Shelley Quinn,
00:32:44.46\00:32:48.11
who's the
founder and co-director
00:32:48.14\00:32:49.73
of Word Warrior
Ministries in Coleman, Texas.
00:32:49.77\00:32:54.14
In our first segment we
discussed some of the ways
00:32:54.18\00:32:58.08
we can recognize that we
are addicted to our work,
00:32:58.11\00:33:01.98
and some of the common causes.
00:33:02.01\00:33:04.62
We've also heard
from RobbieD and Pat
00:33:04.66\00:33:07.88
how to overcome this
workaholism that we have
00:33:07.92\00:33:12.13
that's threatening our lives.
00:33:12.16\00:33:14.19
And now we want to
focus on some of the solutions
00:33:14.23\00:33:18.76
to this problem
00:33:18.79\00:33:20.70
and find a healthy
balance in all of this.
00:33:20.74\00:33:23.70
We're hearing all the problems
now, Shelley, we want you
00:33:23.74\00:33:25.89
to give us the solution so we
all go out of here very balanced
00:33:25.93\00:33:29.83
and very happy, and at peace.
00:33:29.86\00:33:32.33
Let's hope. The Bible says:
00:33:32.37\00:33:34.77
"Whatever your hand finds to do,
do it with all of your might. "
00:33:34.81\00:33:38.82
The Bible says: "Do everything
for the glory of God. "
00:33:38.85\00:33:42.37
You know, we think
about not being a workaholic
00:33:42.40\00:33:46.81
when we're in ministry,
but I remember coming back
00:33:46.84\00:33:51.73
after being on 3ABN and I
had a very many encouraging
00:33:51.76\00:33:56.62
phone messages from so
many people, but 1 pastor
00:33:56.65\00:34:00.61
from Washington said to
me: "Don't forget, take heed,"
00:34:00.65\00:34:06.64
"lest you think you
stand and you fall. "
00:34:06.67\00:34:09.42
And I called this
gentlemen back and I told him:
00:34:09.46\00:34:12.65
"I appreciate your message
more than any other message"
00:34:12.69\00:34:15.90
"because I
continually pray to the Lord"
00:34:15.93\00:34:19.20
"that 'Father, if this ministry
that you've entrusted to me' "
00:34:19.24\00:34:22.91
" 'would every get in the way
of my personal relationship' "
00:34:22.94\00:34:26.87
" 'with You, then take it away
from me. I don't want it.' "
00:34:26.91\00:34:30.81
How we know if we are a
workaholic is when things
00:34:31.14\00:34:35.28
get out of balance in our
life, when we are not focused
00:34:35.32\00:34:39.20
on the Lord, when we
are shorting our family.
00:34:39.23\00:34:42.63
Just as Patty was saying,
here she's begging her husband
00:34:42.67\00:34:47.49
for more time, and yet she
was the one that was distancing
00:34:47.52\00:34:52.31
herself from him.
00:34:52.34\00:34:54.12
I've been counseling
with Patty for 15 months
00:34:54.16\00:34:57.08
and I didn't
recognize she was a workaholic.
00:34:57.12\00:34:59.97
I'd call her, and when
she wasn't busy she would be
00:35:00.01\00:35:02.54
so deflated, and she'd say:
"I don't have anything to do..."
00:35:02.58\00:35:08.35
But I've watched the
Lord work with Patty,
00:35:10.12\00:35:13.30
and what would happen is
over these last 15 months,
00:35:13.34\00:35:17.11
He would stretch her
and she was growing so much,
00:35:17.15\00:35:20.85
and then she'd snap back and
I'd think "Lord, what happened?"
00:35:20.89\00:35:24.59
He'd stretch her,
and she's growing so much
00:35:24.62\00:35:27.77
and a changed person,
and then she'd snap back.
00:35:27.81\00:35:30.93
What I didn't know, this
is hysterical, I called her
00:35:31.87\00:35:35.40
for this program,
didn't I, and I said:
00:35:35.43\00:35:37.46
"Do you know anybody, I'm
looking for a workaholic,"
00:35:37.50\00:35:40.98
"do you know one?"
because men don't want
00:35:41.01\00:35:43.14
to admit it,
that's what I'm finding,
00:35:43.18\00:35:45.24
is that men, mostly,
they're a little bit reluctant
00:35:45.28\00:35:48.18
to admit it.
00:35:48.21\00:35:49.18
She said: "No, I
can't think of anybody. "
00:35:49.19\00:35:51.78
And then it just happened
the next day that she sent me
00:35:52.15\00:35:56.51
this list of
everything she was involved in
00:35:56.54\00:35:59.84
and I said: "Patty,
you are a workaholic. "
00:35:59.88\00:36:03.11
"You are so over scheduled.
" There's many symptoms,
00:36:03.15\00:36:06.36
and we may get to some of those
later during the questions,
00:36:06.40\00:36:09.77
but I do want to focus
on the steps to recovery.
00:36:09.80\00:36:15.78
Recognition is the first
and the most important part.
00:36:17.17\00:36:21.34
See, when RobbieD recognized
that it was an addiction,
00:36:21.54\00:36:25.52
she was able to go
before the Lord and say
00:36:25.55\00:36:28.49
"Okay Lord, I'm
ready to surrender this. "
00:36:28.52\00:36:31.39
Patty now has that
recognition, she's got hope
00:36:31.43\00:36:35.28
that God can change
things, right Patty?
00:36:35.31\00:36:38.16
And she knows that, just like
she said, for the first time
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in her life she
said no without guilt.
00:36:42.59\00:36:45.69
She knows that God is
going to begin to change things
00:36:45.73\00:36:49.24
as she schedules
more time with Him.
00:36:49.27\00:36:51.64
So what we have to
remember is this: time is life,
00:36:51.68\00:36:56.37
and the way we
invest our time is the way
00:36:56.40\00:36:59.10
we invest our life.
If you knew you only had
00:36:59.13\00:37:02.42
6 more weeks to live,
let me ask you a question:
00:37:02.45\00:37:05.67
would you be praying to
the Lord and saying: "Oh Lord,"
00:37:05.71\00:37:09.21
"give me more time to work, I
need to finish this project. "
00:37:09.24\00:37:12.71
Or would you be saying
"Oh Lord, I want to make sure"
00:37:12.74\00:37:16.03
"my heart is right before
You, Father give me more time"
00:37:16.06\00:37:19.32
"to instill some
truths into my children,"
00:37:19.35\00:37:22.56
"to show my spouse
how much I love them. "
00:37:22.59\00:37:25.77
We've got to get
our priorities right.
00:37:26.73\00:37:29.54
So when we recognize
the problem, we need to take
00:37:29.58\00:37:33.41
inventory of our life,
and then we need to quit
00:37:33.45\00:37:37.25
making excuses.
00:37:37.28\00:37:38.95
Step Nr. 2 is
"remember God's plan. "
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God has a plan for your life,
He says that in Jeremiah 29:11
00:37:42.21\00:37:47.46
that He has a plan to
prosper you, and to give you
00:37:47.49\00:37:51.05
a hope and a future.
00:37:51.08\00:37:52.91
The interesting
thing is you read on
00:37:52.95\00:37:54.52
in Jeremiah 29, if you go beyond
verse 11, then to verse 14,
00:37:54.56\00:38:01.07
here's what the Lord
says: "Then you will seek Me"
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"with all of your heart.
" When? When do we seek God?
00:38:07.22\00:38:13.28
When we realize
He's got all the answers,
00:38:13.31\00:38:15.36
when we recognize: "Hey,
God's got a plan for my life. "
00:38:15.40\00:38:19.29
"I need to seek the
Lord to find this plan. "
00:38:19.32\00:38:22.75
So we know that the Bible
says if the Lord doesn't build
00:38:23.05\00:38:25.98
the house, the
builders labor in vain,
00:38:26.01\00:38:29.45
so you've got to remember
that God's plan is better than
00:38:29.49\00:38:32.77
the one that you
are currently living,
00:38:32.80\00:38:35.90
and you can't change
yourself; the Bible says:
00:38:35.94\00:38:38.73
"You can't change yourself
any more than a leopard"
00:38:38.77\00:38:41.11
"can change its spots. "
00:38:41.14\00:38:42.93
So you've got to
go before the Lord.
00:38:42.97\00:38:45.01
The third step is repentance.
Folks, if you're a workaholic
00:38:45.05\00:38:50.53
you have to
acknowledge this is a sin.
00:38:50.56\00:38:53.38
When we allow our priorities...
what does the Bible say?
00:38:53.42\00:38:57.45
Matthew 6:33: "Seek ye
first the kingdom of God"
00:38:57.48\00:39:00.98
"and all of these
things will be added to you. "
00:39:01.02\00:39:04.45
If you're seeking everything
else except that personal
00:39:04.49\00:39:08.47
love relationship with
God, for which you were created,
00:39:08.51\00:39:12.46
then it's time to go
before the Lord and confess it,
00:39:13.07\00:39:16.27
that's what RobbieD
did. She went before the Lord
00:39:16.31\00:39:19.44
and she said: "Lord, I'm
trying to fill this emptiness"
00:39:19.48\00:39:23.22
"in me with everything
except the right thing. "
00:39:23.25\00:39:27.08
"I need You!"
00:39:27.11\00:39:29.07
So when we know that
our life is out of balance,
00:39:29.24\00:39:32.92
we've got to ask
God for forgiveness
00:39:32.95\00:39:35.07
and receive it with
joy, because 1 John 1:9 says
00:39:35.11\00:39:38.19
that if we confess our
sins, He is faithful and just
00:39:38.23\00:39:41.28
to forgive us our sins.
00:39:41.31\00:39:43.31
Now, 1 thing that I
want to share with you:
00:39:44.74\00:39:46.83
as I was going before the
Lord, I know that I want to be
00:39:47.01\00:39:52.43
a willing vessel, and one
day I was praying and I said:
00:39:52.47\00:39:57.86
"Oh Lord, I am
willing to do Your will"
00:39:57.89\00:40:00.94
and suddenly this thought
was impressed upon my mind:
00:40:01.20\00:40:05.51
"No you're not. "
00:40:05.54\00:40:07.76
Now you talk about a shock.
00:40:08.46\00:40:10.54
Suddenly I heard myself
saying: "Lord, I am willing"
00:40:10.58\00:40:15.19
"to be made willing",
and then what came to me was:
00:40:15.23\00:40:19.81
"that's all I ask. "
00:40:19.84\00:40:22.35
That's all God asks of
you, you can't even change
00:40:22.39\00:40:25.24
your own will,
what you've got to do,
00:40:25.27\00:40:29.39
remember Philippians 2:13
says that it is God who works
00:40:29.43\00:40:33.96
in you to will and to act
according to His good purpose.
00:40:33.99\00:40:38.49
See, this is where
Patty is right now,
00:40:38.52\00:40:41.13
she's recognized this
problem, she's turning it over
00:40:41.17\00:40:44.70
to the Lord, but she
knows "I can't change myself,"
00:40:44.74\00:40:48.24
"but Lord, I am
willing to be made willing,"
00:40:48.27\00:40:51.04
"change me. " We've got to pray.
00:40:51.07\00:40:54.22
I want to give
you a great promise,
00:40:54.25\00:40:57.33
and I know I've shared
this with RobbieD in the past,
00:40:57.37\00:41:02.47
Psalm 129:4, that scripture
says "The Lord is righteous:"
00:41:02.50\00:41:07.57
"He has cut me free from
the cord of the wicked. "
00:41:07.60\00:41:11.15
Whatever is binding you,
whatever's keeping your life
00:41:11.18\00:41:14.23
out of balance, you
don't have to be a workaholic
00:41:14.26\00:41:17.24
to put these steps into place,
if your life is out of balance,
00:41:17.28\00:41:20.60
and I imagine if we took a
poll of the audience right now,
00:41:20.64\00:41:24.20
they'd all say "Amen", that
our lives are out of balance.
00:41:24.24\00:41:27.77
Go before the Lord, and
say "Lord, I need balance"
00:41:27.80\00:41:31.16
"in my life, cut me free
from the cords of the wicked"
00:41:31.19\00:41:34.52
"that's trying to
actually bind me up. "
00:41:34.55\00:41:38.55
And ask God to give
you an exit strategy
00:41:38.59\00:41:42.56
to redeem your time.
00:41:42.59\00:41:43.84
The 4th step is restoration.
Wherever possible you want to go
00:41:43.88\00:41:47.95
to the people that you've hurt,
fathers, if you've been ignoring
00:41:47.99\00:41:52.03
your children, go to
them and say: "I am sorry"
00:41:52.06\00:41:55.84
"that your daddy's life
has been out of balance,"
00:41:55.87\00:41:59.62
"but I'm going
to make a change",
00:41:59.65\00:42:01.93
and I also recommend that
you would give those who are
00:42:01.97\00:42:06.12
closest to you permission
to take part in your recovery,
00:42:06.15\00:42:09.71
in other words, give them
permission to speak to you
00:42:09.75\00:42:13.28
if they see you
careening out of balance again.
00:42:13.31\00:42:16.67
Resolve to
change your priorities.
00:42:16.70\00:42:19.43
You've got to take a step
of faith in your scheduling.
00:42:19.47\00:42:22.64
Make a list, and make
that list before the Lord,
00:42:22.67\00:42:25.71
"commit your plans to
the Lord", the Bible says,
00:42:25.75\00:42:28.76
"and He will
cause them to succeed. "
00:42:28.79\00:42:31.07
So let me show you
how to make your list.
00:42:31.11\00:42:33.64
1st priority on
your list should be what?
00:42:33.67\00:42:36.13
Schedule time with God.
If you don't put it first
00:42:36.17\00:42:41.31
that means He's
not your first love.
00:42:41.34\00:42:43.55
Most of us give God
leftovers, He offers us so much,
00:42:43.59\00:42:48.01
and we offer Him leftovers.
00:42:48.04\00:42:50.34
I have people say:
"I'm too busy to pray. "
00:42:50.38\00:42:52.58
"I'm too busy to
take time for quiet time",
00:42:52.61\00:42:54.84
and I tell them
"then you're too busy,"
00:42:54.88\00:42:57.04
"you don't understand
the purpose of your life. "
00:42:57.08\00:42:59.42
So what you want to do
is first schedule that time
00:42:59.67\00:43:02.69
and don't let
anything interfere with it.
00:43:02.72\00:43:04.81
Second, schedule time with
you children, with your family
00:43:04.85\00:43:08.58
because if you don't
make them a top priority,
00:43:08.61\00:43:11.52
guess what? All of
the rest of your work
00:43:11.55\00:43:14.01
is going to bump
them out of the way,
00:43:14.04\00:43:16.83
you've got to give
them a top priority
00:43:16.86\00:43:19.58
in your scheduling, and
then you've got to schedule
00:43:19.62\00:43:23.80
your daily activities
at a comfortable pace,
00:43:23.83\00:43:27.11
so that you can have
enough time between things
00:43:27.15\00:43:30.40
to actually accomplish it.
00:43:30.43\00:43:32.28
You want to plan
ahead, avoid the morning rush,
00:43:32.32\00:43:36.34
avoid the little
foxes that spoil the vines:
00:43:36.38\00:43:40.37
the magazines, the
TV, there's so many.
00:43:40.40\00:43:44.22
Poor J.D., I get
so many phone calls
00:43:44.25\00:43:48.00
after being on 3ABN, and a lot
of them come in at dinner time,
00:43:48.04\00:43:51.53
and I used to feel like
I was absolutely obligated
00:43:51.56\00:43:54.32
to take these phone
calls and pray for people,
00:43:54.35\00:43:57.90
now I unplug the
telephone during that time.
00:43:57.94\00:44:01.42
The 7th step is this:
rely totally on God's power
00:44:01.46\00:44:06.22
to equip you, because
He is the author of peace,
00:44:06.26\00:44:10.99
He is the one,
Hebrews 13:20 says:
00:44:11.02\00:44:14.55
"May the God of peace
who brought up our Lord,"
00:44:14.59\00:44:16.78
"Jesus Christ, from the
dead, that great Shepard"
00:44:16.81\00:44:18.93
"of the sheep, through the blood
of the everlasting covenant,"
00:44:18.97\00:44:22.17
"may He make you
complete in every good work"
00:44:22.20\00:44:25.86
"to do His will, working
in you what is well pleasing"
00:44:25.90\00:44:29.50
"in His sight. " We are all
00:44:29.53\00:44:32.63
totally dependant upon God.
00:44:32.66\00:44:35.69
I think it's interesting
that God says wait patiently
00:44:35.73\00:44:40.29
on Him, he doesn't
say: "Run after me... "
00:44:40.32\00:44:44.95
And it takes
something to learn to be still,
00:44:44.98\00:44:49.54
Psalm 46:10, the Lord says: "Be
still and know that I am God. "
00:44:49.58\00:44:55.19
Be still, how often are
you still before the Lord?
00:44:55.86\00:45:00.27
Well, we've learned
a lot, but in a minute
00:45:02.66\00:45:05.60
we're going to
find out some questions
00:45:05.64\00:45:08.51
from our audience, and
hopefully get some answers
00:45:08.55\00:45:12.19
- to those questions. - I
always look forward to that,
00:45:12.23\00:45:14.39
I love to hear what
the folk here have to say.
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Well, be back in just a moment.
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Do you feel like your
life is going in too many
00:45:29.80\00:45:31.59
different directions? Are
you stressed as you struggle
00:45:31.63\00:45:34.07
to fit in the demands
of, both, work and family,
00:45:34.10\00:45:36.47
as well as all of the
other important activities?
00:45:36.50\00:45:38.84
If so, we have
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Welcome back to
3ABN presents UP Close.
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Our topic today is
balancing work and family.
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We've heard from
several people who themselves
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have been addicted to
work, and how it causes
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some very serious
problems in their family
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and in their lives.
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We've also discussed
some of the warning signs,
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and some practical steps
to overcoming all of this,
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but right now, we want
to open it to the audience.
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We want some real
tough questions for Shelley.
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Alright, we have a
question right now,
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give us your name
and what's your question.
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My name is Todd
and my question is:
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How do you help a workaholic
realize they're a workaholic?
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An individual who might not
recognize that in themselves.
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Well, I believe that the
first thing that you have to do
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is really pray that God
will send the Holy Spirit
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by the convicting
power of the Holy Spirit,
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that God will open
their eyes to this problem.
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I think that one of the things
that has worked with me is
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when I'm talking with
people who seem to think
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that they know the Lord, that
they feel that they're on track,
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I'll ask them: "Do you
have peace in your life?"
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Because the Bible says in
Isaiah 26:3 that if we keep
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our minds steadfastly
fixed on God, trusting in Him,
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His promise is to
keep us in perfect peace,
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but when someone gets
their life out of balance
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I guarantee you they're
going to say there's no peace,
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but that means that
God's not a part of their life.
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You have to be very
gentle in approaching someone
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like this, and sometimes
you can't convince them.
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I'm talking with a gentleman
right now, who is absolutely
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a classic workaholic, and
I just have to let him talk,
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and he's talking
himself into admitting it.
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But it's a difficult thing.
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Shelley, sometimes do
you find that maybe a wife
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is absolutely the wrong person
to tell her workaholic husband
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that he's a workaholic?
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Absolutely, I believe
that's true, it's difficult.
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And probably that's a
good reason for support groups
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for men, to
encourage each other.
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We don't like to do that,
it shows a weakness in us,.
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But you need to be accountable.
- Well, we do, and we need
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to take the
counsel, the Bible says
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there's wisdom in
counsel, so while I'm saying
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we don't like to do
it, that's true we don't,
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but I understand we should.
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When people continue
to come to us and say:
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"Look, there's this problem",
I believe then we should
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take counsel.
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Okay, we have another question,
give us your name please,
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where you're from.
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Actually, my
name is Racy Kowski,
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I'm from Lawrenceville,
Georgia, and my question is
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we talk about
approval in one's life,
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how do you let go of
responsibility, but yet feel
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like you're not
disappointing others?
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Well, one thing that
working with Pat right now,
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her responsibilities
have a time limit on them
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in all of the different offices
that she's doing in church,
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let me tell you something:
in church, in the Lord's work,
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when God's anointing
and His calling is on you
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to do something, it
is usually pressure free.
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I just came back from
England, and in 2 weeks time
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I preached 22 hours, and
the pastor there kept saying:
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"Are you sure you
can handle this load?"
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And I said this was a breeze for
me because God called me there,
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the anointing was working on me,
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but when you get into something
that God hasn't called you to do
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you'll find that
there is no peace there,
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that you feel this
pressure. So what I've worked
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with Pat is to say:
"Okay Pat, you have made"
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"these commitments,
many of them are up in June",
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rather than
just saying "I quit!"
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"you can have it
all, this is it!"
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She's going to
meet her commitment,
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but the hope is that she
has got an exit strategy,
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so the answer to your
question is to find out,
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if you've made
commitments to someone,
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and if you go and you approach
them, and it would be very
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difficult for them to
replace you, go ahead and pray.
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God will give you the grace
to complete that commitment,
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but at the same time
you've got the hope, you know
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the exit strategies coming up.
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Okay, we have another question,
give us your name please.
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My name's Jim
and I'm from Calhoun.
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Alright, what's your question.
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Well, it's really
a 2 part question:
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what do you do when you're
overcommitted and can't stop
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due to
obligations to your business,
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and how do you slow
down and still pay the bills?
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Aha...
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Well, I know one thing, I don't
know what business your in,
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but you could get a part time
job as radio DJ with that voice,
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but I'm not suggesting you do
it, you may be too busy already.
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Let me ask you this
question, Jesus said:
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"what does it profit a man
if he gains the whole world"
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"and loses his soul?"
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What are we working for?
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Are we working
for a bigger house?
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More cars?
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We are still
working on this ourselves,
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we all need to begin to simplify
our lives and quit being
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so materialistic,
because this is why sometimes
00:52:12.32\00:52:16.88
the bills have really exploded
out of our range to care for.
00:52:16.92\00:52:23.05
But as far as
being overcommitted
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and can't pay the bills,
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when you go before the
Lord you've got to ask God
00:52:29.80\00:52:32.31
"show me Father a
way out of this debt. "
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"I have got to
have an exit strategy. "
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If you have to get
with a Christian counsellor
00:52:39.16\00:52:41.96
who is going to
show you how to pay off
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the least balance credit cards
first, and work your way up,
00:52:45.35\00:52:51.30
make sure you're
tithing, putting something aside
00:52:51.33\00:52:54.20
for yourself, you
just have to have a plan.
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The whole idea is
just got before the Lord.
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I want to say one more thing:
don't focus on the problem,
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focus on the Problem Solver.
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God is the only one
who has the answers.
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I can't really give
you an answers tonight,
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I can point you to His
word, Hebrews 12:2 says
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to keep our eyes on
Jesus Christ, the author
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and finisher of our faith.
00:53:27.28\00:53:29.26
We need to reach out for
the hand of God in faith,
00:53:29.30\00:53:33.91
and say: "Lord, I've
messed up. My life is spinning"
00:53:33.94\00:53:38.52
"out of control. I
recognize it here. "
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"I am ready to
repent, Father God,"
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"help me to start
scheduling things differently. "
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"Lord, order my
steps, show me. "
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I want to make sure that before
we conclude this program...
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Closing thoughts,
that's what we need right now.
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I want to make
sure we strike a balance
00:53:58.34\00:54:01.18
because I don't want
anyone feeling guilty at the end
00:54:01.22\00:54:05.63
of this program; we all
suffer seasons when our life
00:54:05.67\00:54:10.05
is out of balance, is that true?
00:54:10.08\00:54:12.66
There are things that come
up, and ideally you sit here,
00:54:12.69\00:54:16.22
we talk about make a
list, prioritize, schedule this,
00:54:16.25\00:54:19.76
well then there's these
interruptions that come,
00:54:19.79\00:54:21.81
or an illness, or
something that happens,
00:54:21.84\00:54:24.75
and then we feel
like: "Help, I'm not doing"
00:54:24.78\00:54:27.66
"what I wanted to do. "
00:54:27.69\00:54:29.57
We all have seasons
of imbalance, but this is
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the most important thing that
I could leave with you tonight:
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a balanced life, what
is it? Some people say:
00:54:37.84\00:54:40.79
"well, if I spend an
hour a day with God,"
00:54:40.83\00:54:43.59
"and if I schedule an
hour with my children,"
00:54:43.62\00:54:46.31
"and an hour for my
exercise, and 9 hour at work,"
00:54:46.35\00:54:51.24
"I've got to schedule some
time to cook a healthy meal,"
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"I've got to... "
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I know people,
and I know Christians,
00:54:56.05\00:54:59.38
that schedule their vacation,
and when they're on vacation
00:54:59.42\00:55:02.82
they take a vacation from God.
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To have a balanced life
means if this is the scale,
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everything that you're putting
in this side of the scale,
00:55:11.84\00:55:16.05
God's got to be a part of it,
He's got to be the major part
00:55:16.09\00:55:20.27
over here.
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We always have to go
before the Lord and say:
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"Lord, show me what
You want me to be doing. "
00:55:25.14\00:55:28.12
"Help me Lord, let me make
You the most important part"
00:55:28.16\00:55:32.66
"of my finances, my
life, with my relationships,"
00:55:32.69\00:55:36.38
"and everything else. "
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- Okay, thank you. -
We've learned so much.
00:55:37.94\00:55:41.72
We want to thank our guests
- RobbieD and Pat Mudgett,
00:55:42.14\00:55:46.82
and we want to thank you
Shelley Quinn for being here.
00:55:46.85\00:55:51.50
- It's been a
blessing. - It's been a joy.
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What a special teacher
you are for us, so thank you.
00:55:53.73\00:55:57.64
Stay with us, we'll be right
back with a closing thought.
00:55:58.41\00:56:02.80
Do you feel like your
life is going in too many
00:56:16.50\00:56:18.33
different directions? Are
you stressed as you struggle
00:56:18.37\00:56:20.75
to fit in the demands
of, both, work and family,
00:56:20.79\00:56:23.15
as well as all of the
other important activities?
00:56:23.19\00:56:25.52
If so, we have
just the gift for you.
00:56:25.55\00:56:27.67
Find help as you read
"Resolve Your Stress".
00:56:27.71\00:56:30.98
For your free gift
just write or call us at:
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Ask for "Up Close offer Nr. 8 "
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Welcome back, we've had a
wonderful time on this program,
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I think we've learned a lot.
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What did you learn?
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Well, I learned that I
need to, though I'm in ministry,
00:57:11.51\00:57:14.19
that I need to
look at my own life
00:57:14.22\00:57:15.98
and that I need the peace,
and the joy and the happiness
00:57:16.02\00:57:19.34
that only God can bring,
so even if we're in ministry
00:57:19.37\00:57:22.82
we need to balance
everything that we do in life.
00:57:22.86\00:57:26.28
She brought it out
so well, Shelley did,
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focus it on Jesus, Him first,
and everything else second.
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And how wonderful to
feel then that peace of God.
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"That passeth all understanding"
is what the Bible says. "
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Our time is all gone for today,
until we see you next time,
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may the Lord richly
bless you, abundantly more
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than you could
ever ask or think.
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