You think you know the
truth, but do you really?
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Stay tuned for the fact check.
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I'm Jason Bradley,
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and you're
watching Urban Report.
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Hello, and
welcome to Urban Report.
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My guest today
are Mr. Danny Shelton,
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3ABN Founder and
Corporate Consultant,
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and Mrs. Yvonne Shelton,
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Co-Founder and
Corporate Consultant
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of 3ABN's Dare to Dream Network.
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Welcome to Urban
Report, Mom and Pop.
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After all that...
Thank you so much.
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It's great to be here, Jay.
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It's great to
have you both here.
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You know, now that we have
the formalities out of the way.
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That's right. That's right.
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That's right.
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So I want to know,
what inspired you to write
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the Focus on Truth series?
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Okay.
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Focus on Truth,
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it's the times in
which we're living.
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And so more than I can ever,
and you can join me in this.
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But she and I, we try to
watch different news channels
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to try to see what's going on.
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And we've come
to the conclusion,
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or at least I have,
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my mother used to say,
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"Sometimes I think everyone
in the world has gone crazy,
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except me, and Dee,
and sometimes even Dee."
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That's kind of what it looks
like to me today and to us.
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We're watching the news
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and what's
going on in the world.
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We say people are
so out of balance,
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because they don't know truth.
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And the only truth, of course,
is the Lord Jesus Christ.
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He says, "I'm the way,
the truth and the life."
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And so we decided,
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if there's never
been in my lifetime,
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I think more
important time for people,
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especially our young people
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coming up in the church today,
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to know what truth really is
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because you have to
have something solid,
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build on a solid foundation,
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or you're going to be
like the sinking sands,
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the Bible says,
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and your house going to
be blown out to the sea.
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So Focus on Truth has
tried to bring attention
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to what the Bible says,
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if you believe
in the Bible at all.
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There's so many,
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the devil doesn't care
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what side of the
boat you fall out.
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So he didn't care
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if you're a
legalist, or liberalist,
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whatever you are,
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long as you're not looking
at truth and stay in focus.
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So we decided,
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why don't we do a series,
start out with three books,
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and really concentrate on
some very important topics
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we think that the
world needs to know.
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And this just Focus on Truth.
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You got what
the Bible says. Yes.
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And even in Christendom,
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you know, there's so
many misunderstandings
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about different topics,
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that Danny was thinking
that if we just focus on truth,
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go to the Bible and find
out what does the Bible say?
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Because there has to be
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some objective
standard of truth.
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It's not my
truth and your truth.
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You know, it's the truth,
and the Bible is the truth.
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And now everybody wants to talk
about reimagining everything.
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So you got people
wanting to reimagine everything,
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well, then reimagine
doesn't change the truth.
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Right.
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You can fantasize all
you want about something
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and do whatever you want.
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But that
doesn't change anything.
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So the only thing that
we should focus on today
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because this
life is so temporal.
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We're here for today
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and gone tomorrow, as they say,
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and so the only thing
that will last is relationship
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with the Lord Jesus Christ.
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Amen.
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And when this
world's problems are over,
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no more sickness, no
more sorrow, no more death,
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and you know,
heaven for eternity.
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We feel it's our
responsibility and privilege
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to get the truth out
to a lost and dying world.
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Amen.
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Now, you said that this series
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is currently
comprised of three booklets?
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Yes. What topics do you cover?
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Well, we call it the series,
of course, Focus on Truth,
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then we have The
Truth About Salvation.
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And to us, that's a
very important topic.
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It's the most
important topic actually.
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Because if we don't know
about the Lord Jesus Christ
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and how to be saved,
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the rest of it
doesn't mean anything.
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We can keep the commandments,
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we can do all
the things we want.
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And a lot of
times in church we do,
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people grow up in church.
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So we know the do's and don'ts,
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but we really need
to understand salvation
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and how that we're saved.
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And as she said,
within Christendom,
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there's so many, so
many different opinions,
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and I'm going to say opinions,
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it's not Bible but opinions.
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Some believe once
saved, always saved,
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you know, predestination,
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you know, all of
these things to distract
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from the actual truth.
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Yeah, so we wrote
that one the truth about,
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we,
everything's focused on truth
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and The Truth About Salvation,
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then The Truth About
The Ten Commandments,
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because once you
accept and realize
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that how to be saved
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and accept Jesus Christ
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as Lord and Savior of your life,
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then what happens?
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Now we want to know,
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well, what does
he want us to do?
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How does this
relationship develop?
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So now we need to understand
God's Ten Commandments.
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They're very important
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because he says
in the New Testament,
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"If you love Me,
keep My commandments."
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And so then the next one
is The Truth About Hellfire.
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So we have, you know,
again, within the church,
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I'm going to
call it Christianity.
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There's all these
people, maybe the majority,
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who believe that
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that there's a
Hellfire going on right now,
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people have been
burning for thousands of years,
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and will burn for eternity.
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And yet we're
trying to teach the world
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that God is a God of love.
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That's what the Bible says.
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And on the other hand,
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we're teaching him,
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Johnny, be
good, Jesus loves you.
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And if you do what He
says, and give your life to Him,
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you'll live in bliss forever.
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Oh, by the way,
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but if you
don't do what He says,
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He'll torture you forever.
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So we wanted to
find out the truth.
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Is God really love
like the Bible says?
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If so, how do we reconcile?
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Or can you reconcile
eternal torture versus love?
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So we again, stick to the Bible,
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so you won't see
our opinions in here.
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We're just giving you
the weight of evidence,
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because you can
take any scripture,
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like there are
scriptures that say,
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you know, then they
burn forever and ever.
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But now you have to
go back to the original,
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whether it's in Old Testament
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whether you want
to do your Hebrew,
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you want to do your Greek,
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you have to go back and
see what does that mean,
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versus because some says,
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and you'll be burned up
and neither root or branch.
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And so we take the evidence,
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and it's like
putting it on a scale
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and start letting it mountain
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see which way
the scale goes down.
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And so I think we've done that.
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And it's important these
topics are important to know
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that we have a Creator
God who loves us so much
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that He was willing to
make a plan of salvation for us,
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that we in our
humaneness and sinfulness,
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you know, if we come
to the foot of the cross,
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submit and commit
our lives to Jesus,
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that He already has
prepared a mansion for us.
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I mean, it's amazing.
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Yes, yes.
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And one thing
that's great about Danny
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as a writer is that
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he writes very plainly,
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you know, it's, it's very
easy for you to understand.
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So these books
are 48 pages apiece,
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and you can read
them in an hour and a half
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and get a
really good Bible study
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on these different topics.
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And the other thing
that I wanted to say is that
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I'm so thankful
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that the books
were written like that,
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like salvation first,
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so that you get
to know who Jesus is
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because learning
about the Ten Commandments
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without Jesus
without knowing who He is,
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and what He's done for us.
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It makes no sense.
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I mean, it's, you know,
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but why would you want to keep
the Ten Commandments for what,
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you don't even know,
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the God of the Ten Commandments.
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So it's really important to
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and to look at
these sequentially, too,
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and see salvation.
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You know, who Jesus is,
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do you know what
He's done for you?
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Do you know how
to have salvation
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and then or to get saved?
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Or what goes into it?
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And then the Ten Commandments,
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which a lot of people don't know
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the Ten Commandments,
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which, you know, it's amazing,
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but and so, what
does each one say?
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And what's the importance
and that kind of thing,
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so each and then hellfire.
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Satan is so intent
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upon shifting our
perception of God,
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to this tyrant, this, this beast
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that wants to
just kill us and zap us
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when we make a mistake.
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And God is a loving God.
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Hell is...
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The fires of hell
were not created for man,
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they were created,
will be created for Satan.
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And so, you know,
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Pastor CD Brooks one time
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in one of his sermons
called it friendly fire,
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because it really was
not intended for mankind.
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And that's why Jesus came.
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So these books,
really zero in on who God is,
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on the character of God.
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And that's really a blessing
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because it lets you
know how much He loves us.
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Each, the whole series
to me can be summarized in,
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you know, sentence
of God's love for us
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that concept.
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And so, I really appreciate
the way they were written.
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And it's really a blessing.
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And I learned a lot too
as I was working on them.
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What was your
role in this project?
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I was editing the project.
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So Danny would
send me the manuscripts
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and then I look
over and make suggestions
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and give the subtitles
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and the headings
and things like that.
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Nice.
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Yeah.
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What I like to say is,
it's like a relay team.
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Runners,
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you know, sometimes you
got three or four but in two,
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I'm always good at
getting a good start.
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And then I hand it over
to her to make it readable,
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you know, because
that's not my strong point.
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But putting it all together,
but then I give it to her.
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And when it's
through, it's like,
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wow, this is really nice.
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You did a great job, Yvonne.
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So, no, she does,
she's a great editor.
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And then on the
salvation part at the end,
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she said, we
really should have a place
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that we help
people come to Jesus
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and lead them into
sinner's prayer and all that.
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So I asked her,
would you write that?
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And she did.
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And it's really
beautiful at the end.
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Yeah, And in the
end, speaking of the end,
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in fact, let me
hand this over to you.
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If you would just read
to us briefly out of that,
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the five steps to salvation.
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Sure.
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I think that's great.
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We actually have a graphic
of all three booklets too,
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we're good to show right now.
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So we can take a look
at those beautiful covers.
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I think that
would be really catchy.
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If you're
handing that to somebody
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who they might not
even be a Christian,
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but they see the
covers on these booklets.
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And they're going to
be, you know, curious,
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their interest is
going to be piqued
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and they're
going to take a look.
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And we have say special thanks
to Pacific Press Publishing.
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They did an
incredible job on the design
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and the layout
and all of this stuff,
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working with
Yvonne to do to get it in.
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Dale Galusha and his team
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that done an
incredible job on this.
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I mean, these are very nice.
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And when we send them together,
they'll come in a package.
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That's a beautiful envelope,
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and it has the
three books in it.
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And it says a
special gift for you.
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When you open them,
it's not like a magazine,
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you say, "Oh, I'm
going to throw this away."
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You can tell
they're really well done.
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And some of the paintings,
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some of the artwork
inside by Nathan Green,
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who's considered one
of the greatest artists,
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you know, in America.
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Yeah. And he's incredible.
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And so some of
these are pictures,
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you know, by him.
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And so it's a teamwork again.
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So maybe we'll add Pacific Press
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in that relay team.
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I start and I
hand the wand to her,
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you know, and she
hands it on to Pacific Press.
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Now we hand it on to you,
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because you take
it to the finish line.
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There you go. There you go.
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So they're part of the team.
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Absolutely. That's right.
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So paint the picture for us
of the five steps of salvation?
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Surely.
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So the first one is to
recognize your condition.
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Recognize that you are a sinner,
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we're all sinners,
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and we're powerless to
overcome sin without Christ.
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So we need His
righteousness, not our own.
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So we recognize
that we are sinners.
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And then number two, we repent.
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So now that you
recognize your condition,
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I'm just summarizing this,
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I'm not reading like all of it,
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because it would take
up rest of the interview
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so the second step is to repent.
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Now that you recognize
your condition as a sinner,
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you must repent.
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Acts 3:19 says,
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"Repent,
therefore, and be converted,
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that your sins
may be blotted out.
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So that times of refreshing
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may come from the
presence of the Lord."
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So repent means that
you not only do you speak,
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you confess your sins,
but you also make a 360,
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you turn away from your sins.
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Well, 180.
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One eighty. Absolutely.
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And then number
three, confess and profess.
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So there are two definitions
of the word confession
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that apply here.
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One is a formal admission
of one sins with repentance.
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And the second is a statement
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setting out
essential religious doctrine.
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So in this case,
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the word confession is
synonymous with profession.
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So you profess
the Lord Jesus Christ,
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and you declare openly
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that you are now
wanting to serve Him.
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And then number four, believe.
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So do you believe
that the Lord Jesus Christ
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paid the price for your sins?
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Do you believe that
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He was
resurrected from the dead?
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And so that's the next step.
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We have to believe in
Jesus and what He's done for us.
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And then the
final step is commit.
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Now that you have repented
of and confess your sins,
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profess the Lord
Jesus Christ with your lips
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and believe that He
died and rose again.
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Now you have to
commit to growing in Him
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through various
spiritual disciplines,
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baptism, Bible
study, prayer, witnessing,
00:14:18.39\00:14:22.09
finding a Bible based church,
00:14:22.12\00:14:23.76
these are crucial
for spiritual growth.
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So this is a love relationship.
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And in any love relationship,
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you make a
commitment to the person
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and you spend
time with the person
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and so that's what
these five steps are.
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And then we have the
sinner's prayer at the end,
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where the person can,
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the reader can say
the sinner's prayer
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and ask the Lord to
come into his or her life.
00:14:44.68\00:14:48.18
And so, this is
really it's, it's,
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to me, this is such an
amazing evangelistic tool,
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because there are
people who don't know
00:14:55.96\00:14:57.76
how to give a Bible study,
don't know how to talk about
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how to do things or whatever.
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Just give this book to someone.
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Yes. Yes.
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That's really it.
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Yeah, I mean, you can beat,
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50 cents per household
for three, three booklets,
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right, and zip code
00:15:13.17\00:15:14.61
and comes in a
beautiful envelope.
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Like you can't,
you can't beat that,
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that's what less
than the cost of a stamp.
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That's what I wanted to say,
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thanks to some
of you our viewers.
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What we did, I mean,
00:15:24.49\00:15:25.82
the Lord has been
in it the entire way,
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we want to put
these out by the millions.
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So of course, that
costs a lot of money to do it.
00:15:29.46\00:15:32.33
And people can't
afford to buy, as you say,
00:15:32.36\00:15:35.23
every book that comes along,
00:15:35.26\00:15:36.60
so we said,
okay, what can we do?
00:15:36.63\00:15:38.37
So we went to individual donors,
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and literally
raised enough money,
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that 6 million of
these are in print,
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2 million of each one.
00:15:45.64\00:15:47.61
So the way we offer it
to you is that literally,
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that you can,
00:15:51.85\00:15:53.18
and you're given the information
00:15:53.21\00:15:54.55
how to contact 3ABN,
00:15:54.58\00:15:56.35
you can have these mailed
to zip code of your choice.
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Three books in a
beautiful envelope
00:16:01.09\00:16:03.32
that says a
special gift for you,
00:16:03.36\00:16:05.33
wherever you want it
00:16:05.36\00:16:06.70
for less than the
price of one stamp.
00:16:06.73\00:16:08.53
And so, you realize
you're not buying anything.
00:16:08.56\00:16:11.47
So it's actually a giveaway,
00:16:11.50\00:16:13.23
and you're helping
to pay the shipping
00:16:13.27\00:16:15.14
is all that
you're actually doing.
00:16:15.17\00:16:17.14
Or you can order by cases.
00:16:17.17\00:16:19.47
Each of these
there's 250 books in a case,
00:16:19.51\00:16:22.98
and you can order
them for your churches,
00:16:23.01\00:16:24.98
you can start passing them out,
00:16:25.01\00:16:26.45
things have changed a lot
at least here in Illinois,
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we're out we're
able to do things
00:16:28.65\00:16:30.89
most states we've been.
00:16:30.92\00:16:32.55
So you can actually
go out passing these out,
00:16:32.59\00:16:35.09
and to people that you meet,
00:16:35.12\00:16:36.46
whether it's on
Sabbath or anytime
00:16:36.49\00:16:38.13
take with you
wherever you're going.
00:16:38.16\00:16:39.83
And so those are
whole case of 250 books,
00:16:39.86\00:16:45.03
$16.50 cents.
00:16:45.07\00:16:46.87
Yes. They're 48 page books.
00:16:46.90\00:16:49.87
And so I mean,
00:16:49.90\00:16:51.47
to me that we
couldn't have done it again,
00:16:51.51\00:16:54.18
without that relay team.
00:16:54.21\00:16:55.54
Yes.
00:16:55.58\00:16:56.91
So we've got donors
that we went to specifically
00:16:56.95\00:16:58.91
and ask them,
00:16:58.95\00:17:00.28
would you give us a jumpstart,
and some of those gave,
00:17:00.32\00:17:03.49
as one gift, you know,
00:17:03.52\00:17:04.85
as much as $100,000, to do it,
00:17:04.89\00:17:07.72
so that you all could get
it and not cost you anything.
00:17:07.76\00:17:10.39
And I mean,
that's such a blessing.
00:17:10.43\00:17:12.73
So now as you said, to
get all three of these out,
00:17:12.76\00:17:15.70
this is what will
show up in the mail
00:17:15.73\00:17:17.93
is all three of these books.
00:17:17.97\00:17:19.97
And this envelope
00:17:20.00\00:17:21.77
if you choose to
do it by zip codes.
00:17:21.80\00:17:24.51
And so for the price of less
than the price of one stamp,
00:17:24.54\00:17:28.44
so you couldn't send the
letter for that at the time
00:17:28.48\00:17:30.45
you bought the
envelope and get the stamp.
00:17:30.48\00:17:32.88
And then if you buy
something to put inside of it,
00:17:32.91\00:17:35.25
even one page,
00:17:35.28\00:17:36.62
and then on the back page,
00:17:36.65\00:17:38.05
6 million of
these very back page
00:17:38.09\00:17:40.96
is all the ways you can get 3ABN
00:17:40.99\00:17:43.59
so I mean, it tells
you everything context
00:17:43.63\00:17:46.90
and how to get 3ABN dish,
00:17:46.93\00:17:49.43
it says FiOS, you know, Fire TV,
00:17:49.46\00:17:52.07
Roku, YouTube,
all of the things,
00:17:52.10\00:17:54.57
the Dish Network,
I mean all of these,
00:17:54.60\00:17:57.04
how to get 3ABN
so that information
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6 million people
will have not only this,
00:17:58.97\00:18:03.11
but then they'll
have ways to get 3ABN.
00:18:03.14\00:18:05.91
Absolutely.
00:18:05.95\00:18:07.28
And I want to share how
you can get these booklets.
00:18:07.32\00:18:10.02
Do call (618) 627-4651
00:18:10.05\00:18:15.12
and speak to one of our
call center representatives,
00:18:15.16\00:18:17.26
they would love to talk
to you answer your questions
00:18:17.29\00:18:19.79
about these booklets.
00:18:19.83\00:18:21.16
If you order it by the case,
00:18:21.20\00:18:22.96
that is one of the
best ways to get that.
00:18:23.00\00:18:27.24
Or if you want to
send it to a zip code
00:18:27.27\00:18:30.07
if you want to have
these mailed to a zip code,
00:18:30.11\00:18:33.98
call them (618) 627-4651.
00:18:34.01\00:18:37.11
And they will be
happy to assist you there.
00:18:37.15\00:18:39.28
Now when you get the case,
it won't be mixed and matched.
00:18:39.31\00:18:43.02
So but it's $16.50 for a case,
00:18:43.05\00:18:47.12
and you can get,
let's say you get the ten,
00:18:47.16\00:18:49.76
the Truth About the
Ten Commandments, right?
00:18:49.79\00:18:51.69
So you get a case
of that 250 booklets
00:18:51.73\00:18:54.56
then you just get
order another case,
00:18:54.60\00:18:56.50
The Truth About Hellfire,
The Truth About Salvation.
00:18:56.53\00:18:59.53
And so that way you have...
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All three of
them is less than $50.
00:19:01.10\00:19:03.24
Yeah.
00:19:03.27\00:19:04.61
Seven hundred and fifty
bucks is what you're looking at.
00:19:04.64\00:19:06.47
You can't you can't beat that.
00:19:06.51\00:19:07.84
No, that's
amazing. Less than $50.
00:19:07.88\00:19:09.74
Yeah.
00:19:09.78\00:19:11.11
And when you're
thinking about salvation,
00:19:11.15\00:19:13.01
you know, and
people coming to the Lord,
00:19:13.05\00:19:16.02
like, that's not a lot.
00:19:16.05\00:19:18.35
No. Really not a lot at all. No.
00:19:18.39\00:19:20.46
And actually,
there's less written
00:19:20.49\00:19:22.56
about salvation in my study,
00:19:22.59\00:19:24.53
writing these books.
00:19:24.56\00:19:25.89
If you go on
YouTube or go on, you know,
00:19:25.93\00:19:28.56
any I mean, look up resources,
00:19:28.60\00:19:31.03
you'll find a lot on
the Ten Commandments,
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on the sanctuary,
00:19:33.84\00:19:35.17
you know, on hellfire,
you know a lot of topics,
00:19:35.20\00:19:38.67
but salvation is one of those
00:19:38.71\00:19:40.08
that I think we've
come up short sometimes,
00:19:40.11\00:19:42.28
because we assume
00:19:42.31\00:19:43.65
so many people convert
from another denomination
00:19:43.68\00:19:47.05
once they found out to
truth about the commandments.
00:19:47.08\00:19:49.72
But we have to realize
there are many, many people
00:19:49.75\00:19:52.45
who know nothing about Jesus.
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Exactly.
00:19:54.09\00:19:55.42
And so this book,
00:19:55.46\00:19:56.79
reason that
maybe of all the books
00:19:56.83\00:19:58.76
that I've ever done,
00:19:58.79\00:20:00.13
maybe the most important one.
00:20:00.16\00:20:01.50
Yes.
00:20:01.53\00:20:02.86
Because without this one,
00:20:02.90\00:20:04.23
you don't have a
foundation for everything else.
00:20:04.27\00:20:05.87
That's right.
00:20:05.90\00:20:07.24
So, you know,
speaking of salvation,
00:20:07.27\00:20:10.27
you know, one of the questions
that comes up quite a bit is,
00:20:10.31\00:20:13.07
can you, do you have the ability
00:20:13.11\00:20:14.71
to choose your destiny?
00:20:14.74\00:20:16.58
Absolutely.
00:20:16.61\00:20:17.95
And we go through
that in this book,
00:20:17.98\00:20:19.58
I'm glad you asked it,
00:20:19.61\00:20:20.95
because there are
people who literally believe
00:20:20.98\00:20:23.59
that you're predestined,
00:20:23.62\00:20:24.95
because it's there's
a scripture that says,
00:20:24.99\00:20:26.59
sounds like that.
00:20:26.62\00:20:27.96
And it says, you're predestined.
00:20:27.99\00:20:29.32
So people say,
00:20:29.36\00:20:30.69
well, it doesn't really
make any difference how I live,
00:20:30.73\00:20:32.79
you know, I can
live like the devil,
00:20:32.83\00:20:34.43
or I can live like,
you know, as good as I can.
00:20:34.46\00:20:36.83
But you know, I'm still
00:20:36.87\00:20:38.57
either going to
be lost or saved.
00:20:38.60\00:20:39.93
So it has nothing to do it.
00:20:39.97\00:20:41.44
How the devil can get
people to believe that,
00:20:41.47\00:20:43.61
you know, within
the Christian church,
00:20:43.64\00:20:45.47
and you have the folks that say,
00:20:45.51\00:20:46.98
"Well, I got saved
when I was nine years old.
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So I'm saved no
matter what I do,
00:20:49.58\00:20:51.31
no matter what I live like,
00:20:51.35\00:20:52.91
I'm going to heaven."
00:20:52.95\00:20:54.28
And yet he may be worse
than the neighbor next door,
00:20:54.32\00:20:58.09
you know, wouldn't do
near some of the things
00:20:58.12\00:20:59.85
but that guy
didn't confess the sins
00:20:59.89\00:21:01.52
when he was young.
00:21:01.56\00:21:02.89
So he's going to be lost.
00:21:02.92\00:21:04.26
And this guy
00:21:04.29\00:21:05.63
is who's maybe the
much worse in character
00:21:05.66\00:21:07.73
and all about him,
00:21:07.76\00:21:09.10
and he's going to
be saved for eternity.
00:21:09.13\00:21:10.47
I mean, if we
really just think about
00:21:10.50\00:21:12.70
some of this
stuff that we're taught,
00:21:12.73\00:21:14.54
and we don't, we
don't question it.
00:21:14.57\00:21:17.41
We're raised in church.
00:21:17.44\00:21:18.77
Okay, this is what it is.
00:21:18.81\00:21:20.14
And so, you know,
00:21:20.18\00:21:21.51
that's, that's the
way it is, I just accept,
00:21:21.54\00:21:23.41
but no, we say
let's focus on truth.
00:21:23.45\00:21:25.85
Let's find out the truth.
00:21:25.88\00:21:27.22
If we ever needed truth,
00:21:27.25\00:21:29.55
we've never needed it
more than we need it today.
00:21:29.58\00:21:32.19
And that's why we spend
00:21:32.22\00:21:33.66
scripture after
scripture after scripture,
00:21:33.69\00:21:36.86
because we want you to know
00:21:36.89\00:21:38.66
the truth about Jesus Christ.
00:21:38.69\00:21:40.26
Absolutely.
00:21:40.30\00:21:41.63
I mean, think about it
in terms of a marriage,
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you think you can
do whatever you want
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and still be married?
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Yeah. Like how does that work.
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Yeah, that wouldn't work.
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So let's touch on
the Ten Commandments.
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Let's talk about
the Ten Commandments.
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You know, you hear people say,
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Well, I'm a new
covenant Christian,
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the law has been done away
with and all of that stuff.
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What do you say to that?
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Well, I lead him,
point him to the Bible.
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So what the Bible will say,
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we've truth about
the Ten Commandments,
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we go through every bit of that.
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A New Covenant
Christian will believe
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in keeping all Ten Commandments.
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For many, many years,
we always talked about,
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you know, in fact,
I've written a book called
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The Forgotten Commandment
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years ago, 20 years ago.
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Now, I'd have to say,
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the Forgotten
Commandments with an S on it
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because now the sixth
and seventh commandments,
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they're all trying
to do away with those.
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And so as well as
the fourth commandment,
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you know, and so
the commandments are...
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It's so important, Jay,
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to understand what
God wants us to do.
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So I look at
the Ten Commandments
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as ten promises.
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It's not like if
you don't do this,
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then you're going to be lost.
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If you don't do
this, you're going to hell.
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If you don't do
this, the Lord says,
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"Look, if you submit
and commit your life to Me,
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I promise you that
I'll give you victory
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over killing,
stealing, commit an adultery,
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go down the
whole list of things.
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I promise you,
I'll give you victory."
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So I'm not sure
what your question was.
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Now it kind of went off.
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New Covenant Christian.
New Covenant Christian?
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Well, New Covenant Christian
will be a commandment keeper.
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And so we show you
that in the New Testament,
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the scriptures that people say,
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oh, well, the commandments
were nailed to the cross.
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There's no scripture in
the Bible that says that.
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Now there are some
people will take you
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to some scriptures,
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but when you read it,
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it says when the
ordinances were nailed,
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not the law of ordinances,
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not the Ten
Commandments, they're eternal.
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They're transcript
of God's own character.
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And so they were
never nailed to the cross.
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But that's
another lie of the devil.
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Absolutely.
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To say, oh, well,
we don't have to worry
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about those old
commandments anymore.
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Well, people do that.
00:23:50.89\00:23:53.19
You go up and
they got a nice car.
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They say, 'cause
I've talked to people
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so I don't believe in
those Ten Commandments
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ever nailed to the cross.
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Keys are in their
car and I drive off
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and say, that's mine.
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I'll guarantee you
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they'll believe in
the Ten Commandments.
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That they will too.
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Wait, you can't take
that, that's stealing.
00:24:07.08\00:24:08.64
Well, I can.
Well, it's stealing.
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Absolutely.
00:24:11.55\00:24:12.91
So why do you think
the Ten Commandments
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were written in stone?
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Oh, well, It just
bespeaks of the immutability,
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the permanence of the tenet.
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Written in stone,
even the expression
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has been written in stone,
like, you know, it's permanent.
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It's there forever.
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And that's,
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that's the importance
of being written in stone
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with the finger of God.
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God wrote the Ten Commandments
with His own hand on stone.
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So and it was
placed inside the ark
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and the ceremonial laws,
00:24:49.95\00:24:51.69
the laws of Moses were placed
on the outside of the ark.
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And so again, it
shows the permanent,
00:24:54.52\00:24:57.33
the immutability of
the Ten Commandments.
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And why would He write them
in stone with His own finger
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if He were going to
nail them to the cross,
00:25:03.40\00:25:04.73
get rid of it, you know.
00:25:04.77\00:25:06.10
Exactly. Yeah.
00:25:06.13\00:25:07.47
So again, sometimes
it's just common sense.
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She said, you
know, my, in my writing
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I write pretty simple.
00:25:12.67\00:25:14.01
And it may be that I'm
a little bit simpleton,
00:25:14.04\00:25:15.94
but I'm a little
bit constitute so.
00:25:15.98\00:25:17.31
No, not simpleton.
00:25:17.35\00:25:20.52
Maybe I am a little, but I do.
00:25:20.55\00:25:22.52
You know, I come
from a background,
00:25:22.55\00:25:24.69
that my dad taught me
a lot about common sense.
00:25:24.72\00:25:26.99
I learned from him.
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So some of this
is just common sense.
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Yeah.
00:25:30.13\00:25:31.46
And then you ask
God, okay, give me wisdom.
00:25:31.49\00:25:34.16
And there's where the key is.
00:25:34.20\00:25:35.56
Then God gives you the
wisdom to understanding.
00:25:35.60\00:25:38.07
And so I try to write
in a way that I'm thinking,
00:25:38.10\00:25:42.00
okay, the person out here,
00:25:42.04\00:25:43.64
I'm talking to this
person, this person,
00:25:43.67\00:25:46.01
maybe some folks
who are not Christians,
00:25:46.04\00:25:48.04
folks who are of
another denomination
00:25:48.08\00:25:50.45
that don't know
some of these truths.
00:25:50.48\00:25:51.81
So I try to keep in
mind as I'm writing,
00:25:51.85\00:25:54.58
what will actually reach them.
00:25:54.62\00:25:56.82
And I've actually in the past,
00:25:56.85\00:25:58.95
I've given the manuscripts
00:25:58.99\00:26:00.86
to many people who
are not of my faith.
00:26:00.89\00:26:03.46
Baptist, evangelicals,
Methodist, charismatic,
00:26:03.49\00:26:07.33
and said,
00:26:07.36\00:26:08.70
"Now to help me if
I messed up on this,
00:26:08.73\00:26:10.97
like on the Sabbath,"
00:26:11.00\00:26:12.33
then so they
would send me and say,
00:26:12.37\00:26:13.80
Well, I don't
understand this scripture,
00:26:13.84\00:26:15.17
or that scripture
or another scripture.
00:26:15.20\00:26:16.87
So then I make it
easier for them to understand.
00:26:16.91\00:26:20.04
Then the time I went back,
00:26:20.08\00:26:22.21
there was
actually three out of eight
00:26:22.24\00:26:24.68
that actually
said, you know what?
00:26:24.71\00:26:26.08
"I'm going to have
pick the Sabbath keeper.
00:26:26.11\00:26:27.68
These were pastors
of other denominations.
00:26:27.72\00:26:30.75
Because we, the other words,
00:26:30.79\00:26:32.85
we got rid of all the reasons
why excuses that we normally
00:26:32.89\00:26:37.93
don't think about, we just say,
00:26:37.96\00:26:39.49
"Oh, well, I didn't
know that was in there."
00:26:39.53\00:26:41.60
And now so that's what we do.
00:26:41.63\00:26:43.00
We try to take it one by one
00:26:43.03\00:26:44.90
and just take it down
to the Bible scripture.
00:26:44.93\00:26:47.57
Absolutely.
00:26:47.60\00:26:48.94
I love it ever so quickly,
00:26:48.97\00:26:50.31
how did writing these
booklets impact your life?
00:26:50.34\00:26:54.44
Oh, both of us.
00:26:54.48\00:26:55.91
Yes, we...
00:26:55.94\00:26:57.38
It just brings
you closer to the Lord
00:26:57.41\00:26:59.78
because you see His love
00:26:59.81\00:27:01.52
in every aspect of these topics.
00:27:01.55\00:27:05.52
So it just
brings you closer to Him
00:27:05.55\00:27:07.16
and makes you love Him more,
00:27:07.19\00:27:08.52
because He loves us so much.
00:27:08.56\00:27:09.96
And we know that we
know that God blessed
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because we couldn't
do anything of ourselves,
00:27:12.89\00:27:14.90
that would amount to anything,
00:27:14.93\00:27:16.26
but I know that
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00:27:16.30\00:27:18.13
And for those of
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00:27:18.17\00:27:20.00
you choose to do it zip codes,
00:27:20.04\00:27:22.14
or whether you
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00:27:22.17\00:27:24.84
I mean, again,
three boxes, 750 books,
00:27:24.87\00:27:28.44
you're getting,
Jay, for $49.50 whatever.
00:27:28.48\00:27:32.11
So we encourage
you to get these books.
00:27:32.15\00:27:34.28
You can go online
and actually read them
00:27:34.32\00:27:35.95
go to our website
and let you read it
00:27:35.98\00:27:38.45
and make sure you
agree with it and want it
00:27:38.49\00:27:40.22
and then it's up to
you to what you do with it.
00:27:40.26\00:27:42.59
But you're the last of the,
00:27:42.62\00:27:45.23
of our, what did we
call it our relay team.
00:27:45.26\00:27:47.00
That's right.
00:27:47.03\00:27:48.36
It's up to you to
get to the finish line.
00:27:48.40\00:27:49.83
That's right.
Well, thank you so much.
00:27:49.86\00:27:51.30
Thank you for what you have done
00:27:51.33\00:27:52.73
here writing these booklets.
00:27:52.77\00:27:54.10
And so we want to thank you
for being a part of the team.
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Till next time, God bless.
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