Have you ever wondered
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about God's way for
relationships today?
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If so, stay tuned to
get some tokens of love.
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My name is Jason Bradley
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and you're
watching Urban Report.
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Hello and
welcome to Urban Report.
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My guests today are
Brandon and Sheretta Taylor
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and they are both authors
and international speakers.
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Welcome to Urban
Report, Brandon and Sheretta.
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Hello. Hi.
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Thank you for having us.
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I'm so glad you
guys could be here.
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I wish you were
physically here in the studio,
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but hey, we'll
utilize technology
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to the best of our abilities.
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There you go.
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That's right.
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So this is your first time
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on Dare to
Dream on Urban Report.
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But I want to kind of
dive into your testimony
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and your journey
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before we start
getting into Tokens of Love.
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Sure.
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So how did you guys meet?
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So we actually met at
college at Cornell University.
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I was a freshman,
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Brandon was a junior at the time
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and we were just
acquaintances after,
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I'm sorry, you were a sophomore.
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We were just acquaintances.
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You know, at first, just hello.
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And we knew each other,
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but we'd never really
talked until his senior year.
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We were actually
the last semester
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of his senior year,
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we were enrolled
in the same class
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and we just so
happened to start talking
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a little bit more.
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And at that time,
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you know,
Brandon could share more,
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but he was on a
journey to really,
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you know, walk
back closer to God.
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And I had been
through that experience
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a couple of years before that.
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And so a lot of
our conversations
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grew around,
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you know, God and
just living as a Christian
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and that sort of thing.
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And the more that we
talked couple of months,
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his interest developed
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and pursued courtship
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and we began our
relationship there.
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And we got married...
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Two years.
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Well, we got married
two years later in 2015
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and we now have
one son and yeah.
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Nice. Nice.
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Now you use the word there.
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You said courtship.
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Now there may be
some people out there
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that don't know the difference
between courtship and dating.
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So why don't you
unpack that a little bit?
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Sure.
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So when we use
the word courtship,
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it's really just a
matter of preference for us.
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Courtship and dating,
neither courtship nor dating,
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you'll find in the Bible.
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So for us, the word courtship,
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it truly signifies the purpose
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with which you
should pursue relationships
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and really value this
the institution of marriage
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and the journey that God desires
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for two people to travel
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in leading up to marriage.
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And when we use
the word courtship,
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it just signifies
to us the purpose,
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the intentionality
behind your actions
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and behind that relationship.
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And that's why we prefer
to use the word courtship
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to describe that,
that period leading up
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to an engagement into marriage.
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Got you. So it
was all purposeful?
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Yeah.
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Exactly.
Purposeful and prayerful.
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I like that that two-piece,
purposeful and prayerful.
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So I'm sure that
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you had boundaries in
place and all of that,
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you know, a healthy relationship
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involves boundaries.
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So what kind of boundaries
did you have in place?
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Yeah, so this was actually
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the first
relationship for the both of us
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where we really wanted
to put God into the center.
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We had made a lot of mistakes
in the past with our choices
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and, you know,
some ignorance in there
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when it came to certain things.
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And so from the very beginning,
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we were intentional
about physical boundaries,
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how we didn't want
to touch each other
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in an inappropriate way.
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We were saving
ourselves for marriage.
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Also being intentional about
how we spent our time together.
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So we tried to be very creative
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with our dates and
that sort of thing.
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But most notably,
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I think from our
story of boundaries is
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actually when we
first set our boundaries,
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we said we were
okay with kissing
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and that wasn't
gonna be a problem.
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And then a couple
months into our relationship,
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it started to get a
little bit more difficult.
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And we were saying if
we're waiting for marriage,
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I don't know how
successful we're gonna be
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if this is how it's going.
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And so exactly around that time,
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I had to leave the country
to go study abroad in England
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for a few months.
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And while I was there, I
started to feel impressed,
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you know, as I was
continuing to pray and read
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that we should save
kissing for marriage,
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but I said, you know,
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Lord if this is
what You want us to do,
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you're gonna
have to tell Brandon,
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and he's going to have to
be the one to bring it up.
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And sure enough, like
it was either that day
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or later that week,
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Brandon brought
up how he felt that,
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you know, he should honor
me and honor God more and that
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we should really
save kissing for marriage.
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And so we made that decision,
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you know, hundreds
and thousands of miles
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apart from each other
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that we were gonna
save hundreds and thousands.
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We're gonna save our
next kiss for our wedding day.
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And that's what we did.
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So almost
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maybe almost two
years later is the next time
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that we shared our
kiss on our wedding day.
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And that video is
actually on our YouTube channel
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of our wedding ceremony
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when that happened.
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Wow. That's awesome.
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Brandon, how
many seconds was that?
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Two years down, 653 days.
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I know for a fact there,
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I have to think about
the hours and the seconds,
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but it felt
like a very long time
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but it was worth the wait.
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Right. Yes, for sure, for sure.
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So tell us a little bit
about Love At Home Ministries.
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How did that get started
and what is it all about?
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Of course, yes. Thank you.
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So Love At Home Ministries
is a ministry that allows us
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to work with
couples and individuals
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directly and also indirectly
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on how to experience healthy,
happy, and holy romance.
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And it really grew out of
our years of doing relationship
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focused content on YouTube.
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Back in 2014, we
were searching online
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trying to find
resources about courtship
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and just how to do this thing,
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that we were both so new to
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and God really allowed...
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God really impressed
our hearts at that time,
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that if we weren't
seeing what we were looking for,
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why not start making content
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and sharing this
content online with people
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about what we were experiencing
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and what God was
teaching us from His Word.
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And by God's grace, we did that.
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So we started releasing a
series of different videos.
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The first series was
entitled The Courtship series.
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And just the response
that we received from people
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literally all around the world
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that were messaging
us and sharing that,
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you know,
something that we had shared
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had resonated with them
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or that they really appreciated,
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you know, the content
that we were bringing in,
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just the vulnerability
that we have with our videos.
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And we were so
thankful for that.
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And this truly been overwhelming
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throughout the years.
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In 2018, about four years later,
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God blessed us
with our first son.
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And after he was born,
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we started to really see
the need for more ministry
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towards the home,
towards the home life.
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Maybe I was
starting to realize that
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the weight of
responsibility now on us
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as parents or whatnot,
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we just had to think that
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the whole needs
to be ministered to.
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And that there's
a mission for us,
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I think, to address the
needs of parents and families,
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and husbands and
wives, and daughters and sons,
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and by God's grace,
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that's what we sought out to do
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with starting Love
At Home Ministries.
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And, you know,
seeing the home as this,
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as the center of communities,
as the center of churches,
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as the center of our nation
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and administrators
that we needed right now.
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Yes, yes.
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That is awesome.
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You know, I've seen
your YouTube channel,
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I've seen some of your videos
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and I have to second
what everybody's saying is,
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you know, I
appreciate your transparency
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and all of that.
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And I think that
that is very helpful
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when dealing with the subject
of relationships and marriage
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and all of that stuff,
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because sometimes the
picture is painted as,
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"Oh, you know,
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once you get married,
everything's perfect."
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Like even if
there's red flags that arise
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and you ignore it.
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Oh, yeah, it'll get better.
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You know, people
have that impression.
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So what are some challenges
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that guys have faced as a couple
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and maybe as a
married couple as well.
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And how did you overcome those?
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That's a great
question. I'll start off.
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And I think that one
of the first challenge
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that comes to my mind is
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after our son was born
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continuing to place one another
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at the forefront
of our relationship.
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So when you have a
new baby in your life,
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and you're so excited to
be a father, to be a mother,
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sometimes you can begin
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to slip as far as how much care,
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how much, you know, devotion,
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you really show into your spouse
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and the attention
that you're giving to them.
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And that was an
adjustment for us.
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And it still is
an adjustment today.
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We still haven't perfect.
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We're trying to
get better. Right?
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We're trying to get, you know,
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a little bit more
regimented in the,
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you know, the date nights
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that we'll have with one another
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and just the
intentional conversations
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that will satisfy to make
sure that we can have time
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every single day to
just talk and to catch up.
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But it is challenging
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when a child that when
children come into the picture,
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but that's one of
the, that's an example,
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one of the
challenges that we faced.
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Yeah.
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I think in the beginning,
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especially when you have
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a really solid
foundation of friendship,
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that can be easy to
just sail on through
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'cause really with marriage,
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you have to be very intentional.
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And I think, you
know, like Brandon said,
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having a child open up our eyes
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to the fact like, yes,
you're always gonna be friends
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and you like each other,
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but you do have to
intentionally keep sowing
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into your marriage
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communicating,
building those memories
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and those
special moments together.
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So we try to really apply
what we tell others to do,
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as we need to share,
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but, you know, we have
to put into application,
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you know, what God
has already shown us.
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So that's how we
try to address it now.
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Amen.
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So you practice what you preach.
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I love it.
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That's what we preach.
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I love it.
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So what led to the
creation of Tokens of Love?
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Yeah.
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Tokens of Love is really,
it was a multiple year journey.
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The idea actually came from us
putting together presentations.
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So whenever we would
do different seminars,
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we would always try to
find examples in the Bible
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to give the principle
for what we were sharing.
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And we started noticing that
every love story in the Bible
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had a lesson or a
token, if you would say
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that we could use to
apply to our relationships.
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So in 2016,
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we started actually
just writing down the couples
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we were finding in the Bible.
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And then the
next year after that
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really challenged ourselves
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to start finding
what are those themes
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that we can pull
out from each couple,
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until we
finally narrowed it down
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and we started writing
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and, you know, it took some time
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and we would,
you know, lay it down
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and then God
would send something
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to remind us, to
pick it back up again.
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And after our son was born,
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I think that
really gave us the push
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that we needed to
really finish the book.
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And that's when
Tokens of Love was born.
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So we had 31 couples,
31 stories and 31 lessons
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that we can take away
from these Bible stories.
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Wow. That's huge.
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You were gonna say
something, Brandon?
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No, no. I was
just agreeing with her.
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Okay.
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So, what is the
structure of the book?
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Yeah, so the book I
should have mentioned
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the book takes you
through 31 different couples
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and different relationships
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that we see
recorded in the Bible.
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And then along with
each day's devotional entry,
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while we're also,
also able to provide them
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the devotional
was a prayer starter
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for us to have, you know,
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concentrated prayer
on each particular theme
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and, you know, by day by day,
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and then also
additional scriptures
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for individuals to
study or couples to study.
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I mean, there's
just only so much
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you could put into
one devotional entry.
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So we did our best to
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also provide
reference scriptures
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for additional study
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that folks can also entertain.
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And then second, thirdly
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we thought it
was really important
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to provide a
personal reflection space.
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So if you're
reading this devotion
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and you're going through it,
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and you know,
sometimes when we get devotions
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we can just go day by day
and not really think about
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what we're actually reading
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and what we're
no longer receiving.
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And so this personal
reflection space was designed
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so that individuals can,
can journal and can write
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in response to
the devotional theme
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for that day.
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And when we think about
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how does this practically
apply to my life and to my walk
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particularly around,
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particularly
around relationships.
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And then lastly
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there's a couples
corner discussing question
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for each day,
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but we wanna encourage those
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who are choosing to
read this book together,
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that they can have
healthy conversations
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with one another
about these topics.
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Maybe you're
doing the Bible study.
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Maybe you're just,
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you know, reading it
with your significant
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other whatnot,
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but these couples
corners can be really helpful
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to sparking
conversation and dialogue
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around the
different things in the book.
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Yes.
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You know, and I love
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how you have that
couples corner in there
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because I think I can really see
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how that would enhance things.
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You know, it's
practical exercises
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and stuff for the couples to do.
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That is awesome
questions to get them thinking.
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Sorry. Yeah.
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I think that's huge.
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Now, what about
for that single person
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that's out there
and they're like,
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well, you know,
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I'd like to be in a
relationship one day.
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I'd like to be married one day.
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What do you have for them?
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How can this book benefit them?
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Yeah, I think I always say that,
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you know, the
journey to marriage
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or into a
relationship is a faith journey
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because it really
involves a total surrender
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and trusting that God knows best
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and He will
provide what is best.
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And I know even just in
my own personal journey,
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I had to go through that.
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So, Tokens of Love,
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because we're going through
the different Bible stories,
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what we hope readers take away,
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especially if they're single,
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is knowing that God cares
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and that He intricately cares
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about each and
every person, every story,
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He cares about how
you experienced love.
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He cares about
when you're frustrated
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or you're angry.
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He cares about
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when you're
waiting for something.
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There are just
so many components
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to relationship,
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and all through the
Bible we can see God's care.
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And I think we,
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I think when a
person starts there
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and they're
strengthened in their faith
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and their understanding that
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God wants to be very involved
in this area of their life
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that will inspire them
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as they're on that
journey of preparation.
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Well said, well said.
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Why do you think that
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the area of love
and relationships
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and why do you think
that's such a huge, huge topic
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that seems to be
very high in demand?
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Yes. Yeah.
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Well, when you think
about the fact that God,
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you know, He created
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this institution
of marriage, right?
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He created the
desire in our hearts
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to want companionship.
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And so when you understand that,
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I think it makes sense that
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so many people
are just attracted
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to talk about
love and relationships,
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because we all have that
little thing in our hearts
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that, you know, goes off
and makes us want to feel loved
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or want to love someone else.
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And so I think that,
you know, especially today,
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when we look at
what's happening right now
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with just the marriage
rates over the last few years,
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and also the divorce rate
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and even the
rates of cohabitation
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and even most recently,
the epidemic of loneliness
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that we're dealing
within the United States.
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It's apparent that
00:16:05.39\00:16:06.90
love and relationships
is on people's minds
00:16:06.93\00:16:09.96
and that individuals
are seeking information,
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want to know how to actually
do these different things
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that pertain to the
matters of my heart.
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And I know that, you know,
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we probably don't even
have research on this yet,
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but the year of
the COVID-19 pandemic
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and we see what's
transpired and just, you know,
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I think that also the pressure
that many homes have been under
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as a result of
this has also increased,
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I think the desire,
the need for more ministry,
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more I think more
getting back to God's Word.
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What does it mean
to have healthy, happy,
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and holy romance
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and healthy
relationships in your home.
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And how do you
cultivate those happy, healthy,
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you know, and holy
romances in your home?
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How do you go
about cultivating that?
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It really starts with
God being the foundation.
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And I know it sounds,
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probably sounds a little cliche,
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but really, you know,
00:17:01.68\00:17:03.28
there's nothing we
can do outside of Christ
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and so if you want
something to be strong
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and to be happy and healthy,
that's gonna come from Him.
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So, you know, praying
together and it's so important.
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One thing we have
really tried to do
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and be consistent with,
00:17:16.80\00:17:18.13
with our son is
family worship time.
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So just gathering
together in the Word and prayer
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can do amazing
things for a family.
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And when you do it on a
consistent basis as well,
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I think also
having an understanding
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of communication.
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So now that we are all
spending a lot of time at home
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on the same four
walls with each other.
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Do we know how to have
healthy communication habits,
00:17:37.22\00:17:40.29
you know, that can foster
more love and more kindness
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and those sorts of things.
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So it's all about
00:17:44.53\00:17:45.86
just equipping
ourselves with the skills,
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but on top of the foundation
of God being the center.
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Amen.
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Now what about finances?
00:17:52.37\00:17:54.60
You know,
'cause married couples,
00:17:54.64\00:17:56.07
you know, when
they come together
00:17:56.10\00:17:57.71
and the whole
financial component,
00:17:57.74\00:18:00.44
how does that factor into
a happy, healthy marriage?
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That's so important too.
00:18:05.41\00:18:06.75
I mean, we work with couples
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and premarital
coaching sessions with couples.
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We've focused
explicitly on finances
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because, you know, many
fight some money problems
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is one of the leading
cause of divorce in America.
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And so we know that
00:18:20.30\00:18:21.63
there's so much work
that needs to be done
00:18:21.66\00:18:23.33
leading up to marriage.
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And even before
you're in a relationship
00:18:24.83\00:18:26.74
to make sure you have those
right financial principles.
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So yes,
understanding your finances,
00:18:29.90\00:18:32.21
understanding how to
properly manage family finances.
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And then I think also
as a couple coming together
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on the same page
00:18:37.68\00:18:39.05
on your finances,
00:18:39.08\00:18:40.42
and there like
Sheretta was mentioning earlier,
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just the communication.
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One time I heard
somebody telling me that,
00:18:43.92\00:18:45.65
you know, they and their
spouse don't talk about finances
00:18:45.69\00:18:48.42
except for once a year.
00:18:48.46\00:18:49.92
And I said that
just can't happen.
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You can't have a
healthy, happy, and holy home
00:18:51.79\00:18:54.30
with just talking
about finances once a year.
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So having that regular
time with the communicating
00:18:56.16\00:18:59.43
and sharing about your finances
00:18:59.47\00:19:00.80
and your dreams and
your goals and your plans,
00:19:00.84\00:19:03.51
it's very healthy
for a relationship.
00:19:03.54\00:19:05.37
And I'd also add starting
with the good financial habits.
00:19:05.41\00:19:08.38
You know, the Bible
has a lot to say about
00:19:08.41\00:19:10.51
how to handle money.
00:19:10.55\00:19:12.11
And so, really
building those healthy skills.
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I know we all need that.
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Yes, absolutely.
00:19:17.32\00:19:20.79
You guys also do
premarital counseling.
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What do those
sessions look like?
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How do you start?
00:19:25.66\00:19:27.46
How do you start
with the couples?
00:19:27.50\00:19:29.00
Like what do you do?
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Yeah.
00:19:31.47\00:19:32.80
So we take each couple through
a customized assessment where,
00:19:32.83\00:19:36.81
you know, they fill out
this sort of questionnaire
00:19:36.84\00:19:39.27
and they, then we get a report
00:19:39.31\00:19:40.98
where we can look
at the different areas
00:19:41.01\00:19:43.41
of their relationship
00:19:43.45\00:19:44.91
such as, you know,
how they communicate,
00:19:44.95\00:19:47.05
conflict resolution,
00:19:47.08\00:19:48.42
their thoughts on parenting
in the future, et cetera.
00:19:48.45\00:19:51.35
And we walk them week by
week through each of those areas
00:19:51.39\00:19:54.56
and just have
discussion and also sharing,
00:19:54.59\00:19:57.33
transparent
sharing of our experiences.
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And I'm really just trying to,
00:20:00.06\00:20:01.63
we call it the marriage toolbox.
00:20:01.66\00:20:03.26
So we are trying to
give them all the tools
00:20:03.30\00:20:05.33
that they will need
00:20:05.37\00:20:06.70
to be able to build a foundation
00:20:06.74\00:20:08.57
for a successful marriage.
00:20:08.60\00:20:09.94
And yeah, that's
what we do with them.
00:20:09.97\00:20:14.08
That is wonderful.
00:20:14.11\00:20:16.04
What are some,
maybe some testimonies
00:20:16.08\00:20:18.58
that you can share about
00:20:18.61\00:20:20.65
how people have
been blessed by the book
00:20:20.68\00:20:23.62
and perhaps the
premarital counseling?
00:20:23.65\00:20:28.82
Well, great. Yeah,
that's a great question.
00:20:28.86\00:20:30.69
So I guess I would take the...
00:20:30.73\00:20:33.16
I'll take the book one first.
00:20:33.19\00:20:34.53
So we had somebody who wrote,
00:20:34.56\00:20:35.90
actually wrote an
endorsement for our book
00:20:35.93\00:20:37.93
and they had reached
out to us after reading it
00:20:37.97\00:20:41.87
and after receiving the book
00:20:41.90\00:20:43.24
and share that
00:20:43.27\00:20:44.61
they were going to
actually purchase another book
00:20:44.64\00:20:46.44
to provide to a couple
00:20:46.47\00:20:48.31
that was on the
brink of divorce.
00:20:48.34\00:20:50.78
And that was so...
00:20:50.81\00:20:52.28
That experience
was so humbling for us
00:20:52.31\00:20:54.15
to realize that
00:20:54.18\00:20:56.08
someone thought so much about
00:20:56.12\00:20:58.09
what God placed on our
hearts through this book
00:20:58.12\00:21:01.79
that they believe that
would be a helpful resource
00:21:01.82\00:21:04.29
for somebody to
rekindle their relationship
00:21:04.33\00:21:06.70
and to revive
00:21:06.73\00:21:08.26
just the happiness in their home
00:21:08.30\00:21:09.83
and hopefully, you
know, keep their marriage.
00:21:09.86\00:21:11.73
And that was just an
awe-inspiring moment for us.
00:21:11.77\00:21:15.67
Yes, yes.
00:21:15.70\00:21:17.04
Rekindle the flame.
00:21:17.07\00:21:20.11
That's right. That's right.
00:21:20.14\00:21:21.74
So what about the
premarital counseling side?
00:21:21.78\00:21:26.28
Yeah, we've been blessed to see,
00:21:26.31\00:21:28.68
you know,
different couples get married
00:21:28.72\00:21:30.92
and we certainly
keep in touch after
00:21:30.95\00:21:33.25
and wanna make sure that,
00:21:33.29\00:21:34.62
you know, all is
starting off well,
00:21:34.66\00:21:37.93
so I remember
00:21:37.96\00:21:40.26
this is little
connected to the book as well,
00:21:40.30\00:21:42.66
but there was a
couple who was courting
00:21:42.70\00:21:44.90
and they were
reading the book together,
00:21:44.93\00:21:47.04
going through
each entry one by one,
00:21:47.07\00:21:49.44
I'm sorry, week by week.
00:21:49.47\00:21:51.11
And they shared
how the couples corner
00:21:51.14\00:21:54.58
was actually
really helpful for them
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getting a little bit
deeper in their conversations
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about their relationship
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and about how God is a
part of that relationship.
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And I'm not saying this is
because they read the book,
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but they did
get engaged recently
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and are planning to get married.
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So it's just
exciting to see how,
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you know, God is just using this
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to facilitate the
discussions that are needed.
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And for people to
really, as we mentioned before,
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that purposeful,
prayerful journey to marriage,
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it's really
helping people get there.
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Praise the Lord. Yeah.
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It sounds like the
journey has been successful.
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Amen. By His grace.
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Amen.
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Did you incur any
challenges in writing this book?
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Oh, we had several
challenges Sheretta,
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I think Sheretta
mentioned earlier that,
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you know, we started in 2016
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with just kind of
thinking about the book
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and the book wasn't
published until 2019.
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So there was a
bevy of challenges
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all up and down
those three years.
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But I think in the,
you know, in the most,
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I guess when we were
about to publish the book,
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we sent out, you
know, a query letter
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and a proposal to
some different agencies,
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inquiring if they were going to,
00:23:07.62\00:23:09.72
you know, want to
publish the book for us.
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And after getting
interest from these agencies,
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we ultimately decided not to go
the traditional publishing hub.
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God impressed our
hearts at that moment.
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We were just
struggling with like,
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do we really want to
go the traditional route?
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Do we prefer to
go self publishing?
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And God reveal to us
that we had the skills
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and we had the resources
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to be able to
have to self-publish.
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And so that was an overcoming
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that challenge of
that decision right there
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and God has tremendously blessed
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beyond our, you know,
beyond our imagination.
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Ah, praise the Lord.
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I want to put up
your address page.
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I know that our
time is dwindling down,
00:23:46.09\00:23:48.69
but I wanna put up your address.
00:23:48.72\00:23:51.56
And so people know how
to get in touch with you
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if they wanna
book you for seminars,
00:23:53.90\00:23:55.46
if they'd like to get your book,
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all of that.
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So I'd like for you
to read that for us.
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Sure.
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So the address
where you can contact us
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is 88 Glocker Way
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#177 is the box,
Pottstown, Pennsylvania 19525.
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Our website is lahministries.com
00:24:15.08\00:24:19.85
and email if you
want to have us speak
00:24:19.89\00:24:22.92
or you just want to
get in touch with us
00:24:22.96\00:24:24.79
or interested in
premarital coaching
00:24:24.83\00:24:26.63
is info@lahministries.com.
00:24:26.66\00:24:31.73
And then you could
also call our phone number
00:24:31.77\00:24:33.40
at (267) 225-7115.
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All right.
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And that's Love
At Home Ministries.
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Yes. Yes, sir.
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So real quick,
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are there any final thoughts
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that you have,
Brandon or Sheretta?
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Yeah.
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Well, I think that
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when we talk about
love and relationships,
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it's important for us
to always remember that
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courtship and marriage
are really great opportunities
00:25:01.73\00:25:05.47
to enjoy
companionship with one another,
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but most important in our minds
00:25:08.04\00:25:09.84
is to be ready for
the greatest marriage
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of all to Jesus Christ
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and to be ready
for His soon coming.
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And so, you know, as
we're enjoying relationships
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and seek
relationships and trying,
00:25:18.58\00:25:20.12
it's trying to find
our one to find our match.
00:25:20.15\00:25:23.52
It's important for us
not to take our eyes off of
00:25:23.55\00:25:26.82
preparing for
that great ceremony
00:25:26.86\00:25:29.06
that we want to be a part of.
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And so one thing that we
always tell people is that,
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you know, knowing
God and knowing His love
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is so integral
00:25:36.23\00:25:38.20
to actually being
able to love someone else.
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As God transforms our lives,
00:25:41.64\00:25:43.44
as He transforms
us as individuals,
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we will be better
able to love other people
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and love that one
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that God desires to
bring into our lives.
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We say that a life transformed
is a love transformed.
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Amen. I like that.
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And I just...
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Yes, and I would
just like to add as well,
00:25:58.55\00:26:00.49
just from my
personal experience,
00:26:00.52\00:26:02.56
I had gone through so many years
00:26:02.59\00:26:03.99
of not considering God
as a part of my love life,
00:26:04.03\00:26:08.20
like when it came to
romantic relationships
00:26:08.23\00:26:11.20
or someone
being interested in me
00:26:11.23\00:26:12.93
or vice versa,
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I never considered
00:26:14.34\00:26:15.67
God needing to
be a part of that,
00:26:15.70\00:26:17.11
of consulting Him
and talking to Him.
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And, you know,
00:26:19.91\00:26:21.24
that led to a lot of
really poor decisions.
00:26:21.28\00:26:23.38
But when I finally
surrendered and I realized like,
00:26:23.41\00:26:26.11
no, God should very
much be a part of this
00:26:26.15\00:26:28.58
just as I pray for protection,
00:26:28.62\00:26:30.92
traveling mercies
and all of those things,
00:26:30.95\00:26:33.42
He should very much be a
part of my relationships.
00:26:33.46\00:26:37.26
And I
surrendered it over to Him.
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That's when
everything changed for me.
00:26:38.76\00:26:40.93
So I just wanna encourage
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anyone
listening to this program,
00:26:42.33\00:26:43.67
that if you haven't surrendered,
00:26:43.70\00:26:45.53
you know, your love life to God,
00:26:45.57\00:26:47.47
if you haven't
included Him along the way,
00:26:47.50\00:26:49.14
it's not too late.
00:26:49.17\00:26:50.54
And you can certainly do that
00:26:50.57\00:26:51.91
because He is the
one who has created this
00:26:51.94\00:26:53.94
and He knows best.
00:26:53.98\00:26:55.48
And He certainly
always has a plan
00:26:55.51\00:26:57.01
more than we could ever imagine.
00:26:57.05\00:26:59.08
Amen.
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Excellent, excellent advice.
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And that just shows people
00:27:02.35\00:27:03.69
why they need to
go get this book.
00:27:03.72\00:27:05.55
They need to pick
up Tokens of Love.
00:27:05.59\00:27:09.72
Go get it, go
get Tokens of Love.
00:27:09.76\00:27:12.33
Real quick, what would be
your favorite Bible couple?
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For me that is Hosea and Gomer.
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I love the story of forgiveness
that we see recorded there
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and just how it
reflects God's love
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and His forgiveness
towards us and His children.
00:27:25.77\00:27:28.94
Yeah.
00:27:28.98\00:27:30.31
It's hard to pick a favorite,
00:27:30.35\00:27:31.85
but the one that I
think really resonated with me
00:27:31.88\00:27:34.98
was Nabal and Abigail
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and just seeing
her love come through
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when he was very unlovable.
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I think that's
what we called it,
00:27:42.42\00:27:43.76
loving the unlovable.
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So just learning
how to deal with that.
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Wow. That's huge.
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Well, thank you
so much for coming on
00:27:48.20\00:27:49.53
and sharing with us today,
00:27:49.56\00:27:51.10
and we wanna thank
you for joining us.
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Well, we've reached
the end of another program.
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Join us next time and remember,
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it just wouldn't be
the same without you.
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