Stay tuned to learn about
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an exciting
evangelism initiative
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that's taking place in Cuba.
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My name is Jason Bradley,
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and you're
watching Urban Report.
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Hello and
welcome to Urban Report.
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My guest today is John Dinzey,
General Manager of 3ABN Latino.
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It's great to have
you here, Brother John.
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Thank you.
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It's a privilege to be here
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and to share what
great things God is doing.
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Yes, and there are
a lot of great things
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taking place with 3ABN Latino.
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How long have you
been with 3ABN Latino?
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Over 31 years.
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Well, 3ABN Latino,
3ABN over 31 years,
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3ABN Latino is over 13 years.
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Wow.
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What is your thought process
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going into maybe like
the creation of the content?
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Well, a lot of prayer goes
into the creation of content.
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We ask the Lord to guide us.
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We do have a small team
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and sometimes someone comes up
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with an idea
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and we come
together to discuss the idea.
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What the elements
of the program will be.
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We recently had
some meetings on that,
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so it's very interesting.
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What the elements
of the program will be,
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what the segments will be,
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and who is going to participate.
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Recently we were talking
about doing a children's program
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and my wife Idalia
came up with the concepts
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of the different segments
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and it's a very
interesting process,
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you know, a lot
goes into a program.
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Yes
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That the more
than meets the eye,
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you know, some people think,
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you just turn on
the lights and go.
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No, there's a lot of
planning that takes place.
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Absolutely.
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And how do you go
about assessing the needs
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of the
communities that you serve?
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Well, that is a
very good question
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because, you know, you look at,
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you really have to look at
what's going on in the news.
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One of the aspects,
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you have issues in families
that are going on and prayer.
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Prayer, of course,
it's a natural go-to.
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We need to pray a lot
for the Lord to guide us
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because He knows
best what people need.
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You know, we're just...
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We're His instruments
and it's a joy for us
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to work together with the Lord
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and making
something great happen
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with a few people.
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And, you know, it's amazing
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how God brings all
these things together.
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It really is.
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Amen.
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And tell us a little
bit about 3ABN's coverage,
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3ABN Latino's coverage?
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3ABN Latino is reaching
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every Spanish country
in the world by satellite.
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And, of course,
there's the internet
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that allows us to
get in on YouTube.
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It also allows us to get
into some streaming devices
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like Roku, Fire TV, Apple TV.
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So that really
opens another gate,
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if you want to say, or
another platform for us
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to reach people.
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And so virtually
anyone in the world
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can watch 3ABN Latino
because of the internet.
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People who have
satellite dishes, of course
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that we are on
the main satellite
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that cable companies receive
in Central and South America.
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And that has, the
Lord has blessed us
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because of this we're on
over 1300 cable companies.
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And so, God has
done a marvelous job
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because we could not
have done it without Him.
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Yes, yes.
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I'm sure that you've
seen a whole bunch of doors
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opening up for 3ABN Latino
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and God doing amazing things.
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What's one of the
latest developments
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with 3ABN Latino?
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Well, one of the
latest developments
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is the door that
the Lord opened in Cuba
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in something called El Paquete.
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And this El Paquete,
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for those translating
it from Spanish to English
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is the package.
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And you say the package,
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what you're
talking about a package
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that arrives at your house.
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No, that's what
they call a TV package.
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Because in Cuba, every week,
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a TV package is released
with the new TV programs
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that have come out.
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Now, please understand
that in Cuba right now,
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cable company
service does not exist.
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Neither easy access to internet.
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It costs a lot of money.
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And people do have internet,
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but they usually cannot afford
a lot of time on the internet.
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So sometimes they
buy some internet service
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and they kind of rationate,
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let's say, they say,
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well, we have 30
hours for this month.
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It will be one hour a day
that we can have internet.
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And it's not very fast
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to really allow
streaming to happen.
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And if you get,
manage to get on streaming,
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it may break up and you
know, you're losing money.
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So people don't
normally stream programs.
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Well, so there is a' package
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that is made by in Havana, Cuba
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that is made
available to the people.
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It goes to every
single city in Cuba.
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And so they have,
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they are the latest
in sports and movies,
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soap operas are huge
in Spanish countries,
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so Cuba is...
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How you say,
telenovela. Telenovelas.
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Now telenovelas the soap operas,
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they don't run
like they do in America,
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for example that they run from,
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I don't know, what
time, 10, 11 in the morning,
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12, 1, 2 o'clock
in the afternoon.
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I don't
somewhere around the time.
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They are prime time,
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you know, they could be
on a 7 PM, 6 PM, 7, 8 PM.
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And that's prime time.
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That's when these things are on.
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So they're huge that way.
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And so, people
follow these things,
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so they don't want to
miss the next episode.
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So they get the package.
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So the package gets the sports,
the movies, the telenovelas,
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children's programming,
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and it's available to the people
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for very low cost,
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very affordable for the people.
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I mean, when I was in
Cuba, March of 2020, I said,
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I need to get a package
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because we're going to be
participating in the package.
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I need to know what's out there.
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What are we competing against
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so that we can
figure out what is the need?
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So like you said, how
do you figure this out?
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Well, we would have to
do some background research.
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What's the background of this?
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So I bought one, it costs
me about 62 cents for a...
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What you would
call one terabyte.
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I mean, and they, there were
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literally hours and hours
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and hours and
hours of programming.
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No way. And it costs 62 cents?
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Sixty two cents,
no way one person
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could really watch
all of that in one week.
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I mean, you literally
have to be up all night
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with your eyes,
with some toothpicks
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trying to stay awake
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because they
put so much on there
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and they know that no one
is going to watch everything.
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So they're putting
on a variety of things
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for people to be
able to pick from.
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So we are going
to be in the package.
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Wow! That's incredible.
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So how does the package work?
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Like, are you able to
search for what you want or?
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Oh, yes.
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Well, this is the way the
package is made available.
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When I say it's made
available to the people.
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It is because
they can go to a place
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where somebody is
there in a little place
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selling the package
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and the people
come with their memory
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and some just
have a small memory,
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some have a hard drive,
they bring it and they'll say,
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I want the whole
package or they might say,
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well, I just want, you
know, the children's programming
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or I want all the telenovelas
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or all the movies
and all the sports,
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they can literally,
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you can literally
say what you want.
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And you can say, I
don't want any of this
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and they don't put
it on there for you.
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So they will say,
come back in one hour,
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two hours, three hours,
whatever the case may be,
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come back in the afternoon
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and we'll have it ready for you.
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But there are some
people that receive the package
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by people
knocking on their door.
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And they say, would you
like to package this week?
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Yeah, give it to me.
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So they are literally
catering to the people.
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So they can get the package.
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Wow!
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Could this be something
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that churches or
church members handout,
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like, can they go
door-to-door, how's that work?
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That's a very good question.
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If one, when you know right now
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church members
don't want to do that.
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Yeah.
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Because what they offering
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is not good
Christian programming.
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See. Got you.
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But when 3ABN Latino is on
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in which I'm talking to you now
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when this program is on the air.
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It may already be on
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because we're just
moments away from getting on.
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Yes.
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What's going on is that we are,
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they're waiting for
us to bring them a...
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Because we already submitted
our programming to them
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for six weeks.
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And we thought that
was going to get on,
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but when they looked
through the programming.
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They said, "We
need you to put on
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a commercial at the end,
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what they call it
public service announcement
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at the end.
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Which is a public
service announcement
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is don't forget to
turn off the lights
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when you leave the room,
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pick up, don't throw
trash in the streets,
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pick, pick up trash
from the streets, recycle.
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And, of course,
okay, so we had to go,
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we have to bring,
not bring it back,
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but we already had
the programming here,
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but we needed to
add our programming.
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I mean, that promotional,
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that public service announcement
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at the end.
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So we have a, a
public service announcement
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about Coronavirus.
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We have a public
service announcement
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about recycling and
about the trash as well.
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So every program at
the end of the program,
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one of these goes on there.
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Okay. Yes.
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So that's what was needed.
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That's what has
literally prevented us
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from being on already.
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So how did,
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because I know there's even more
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to this story.
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How did God work
out all these details?
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You know, it's very interesting
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you asked that question as well,
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because, you
know, we're praying,
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you know, we look
at what we're covering
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and there are
places that we say,
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wow, Lord, please open
the door for this place.
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And I could literally
tell you that there are places
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that we have some
coverage, but we want more.
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And there are
places where we have
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very good coverage
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and we praise the Lord for that.
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But when you look at the list,
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Cuba was one of those
places where we're like,
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oh, Lord, please
open the door there
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because we are not on.
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Now, I say, we're on satellite,
the satellite covers Cuba.
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However, people don't
have satellite dishes.
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So the other option is,
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um, the other option is
to get on a local TV channel.
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And I didn't
mention this before,
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but there are three or
four national TV channels
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run by the Cuban government.
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Okay.
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Getting on that
is very difficult.
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Very, very difficult.
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We did submit some
programming several years ago,
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by the way we've been,
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this is something
we've been working on.
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Several years ago, we
submitted some programming.
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Now I could go back seven years
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and tell you
something we did seven years ago
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by trying to familiarize
the members of the church
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with 3ABN Latino.
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They saw us, now I say
seven, about seven years ago,
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but they saw 3ABN about 2001.
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March, 2001. Why?
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Because we went
with what we called
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the Voice of Hope invited us
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to participate in
evangelistic campaign.
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So 3ABN was the first
Christian television channel
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to go with
their cameras to Cuba,
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to record an
evangelistic campaign.
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You can say, the Lord blessed us
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to make history that way.
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Now, when we
recorded that television,
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that evangelistic
campaign, it was one week long.
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It was also the very first time
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that the Cuban
government allowed any church
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to have a public
evangelistic campaign,
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in the sense of that
is not held in a church.
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Since the 1970s,
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no church had been
allowed to do that.
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So when 2001 came,
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we were able to go
there and we were able to have
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our equipment inside a theater.
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And because there aren't really
that many what you would call
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or any halls for people to have.
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'Cause not a
whole lot of big venues.
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No, no.
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So anyway, it was a
theater where they would do
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public performances in,
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you know, musicians and people
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who will do dance
and do drama there.
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So it was a very good
place, very nice facility.
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And so in 2001, we went,
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we recorded the
evangelistic campaign,
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we couldn't broadcast live,
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'cause it was not allowed that
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back then, and even now.
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So there was no uplink
into satellite back then.
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It was recorded, edited,
and then bring it back to Cuba.
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So the idea was for
every church in Cuba,
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Seventh-day
Adventist Church in Cuba
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to have that one week campaign.
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Okay.
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So the Voice of Hope,
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which is called La
Voz de La Esperanza.
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Okay.
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They were able to get
donations to buy a TV and a VCR.
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That's what they had back then,
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to be able to have
the evangelistic campaign.
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And they were told,
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everyone is
supposed to participate
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during the same time
they advertise with long,
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you know, so that,
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so they would invite
people to the churches.
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So every night for one
week as from 7 to 8:30 PM,
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they had the
evangelistic campaign
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in the year 2000,
later on in the year.
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And so, that was
our first participation
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in Cuba.
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Now about seven
years ago through a letter
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that came to 3ABN,
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because somebody from Cuba
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watched our programming,
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they were visiting
United States and they say,
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"Oh, I would love for
this to be available in Cuba."
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And I said, "Well, I
wonder who this person is."
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So I wrote an email
back to him and I said,
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"I would love for
this to be in Cuba.
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Do you know how
we can get it done?"
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And he said, "Oh, right
now it's very, very difficult.
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So, I just don't know."
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It's very difficult in Cuba.
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You know, the situation is,
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doesn't allow
for this to happen.
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And I prayed about
it, you know, but the Lord
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was kind of preparing the mind
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for what he was about to do
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because we went
to an ASI meeting.
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ASI meeting
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is Adventist-laymen's
Services and Industries.
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About two months
later, we were there.
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And some people from Spain came
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or where they have
Adventist services,
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Laymen's Services
and Industries in Europe.
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And the president of
ASI of Europe told me,
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he was, the president
was from Spain at that time.
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He told me that
they had recently donated
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so that every church
in Cuba and small group,
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because there are
many small groups,
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what they call
church homes in Cuba,
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was equipped with a
TV and a DVD player,
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see not VCR now
it's a DVD player
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because we're
talking about 2001.
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Now it's about seven years ago.
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So now VHS is not
what people are using.
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They were using DVDs.
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So we came up with the idea
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to bring our programming on DVD.
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And the question was,
do we make copies here?
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And you're talking about making,
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you know, 1000 copies.
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More than that,
because there are more.
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There are over 3000 churches
and small groups together.
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You're talking about
bringing 3000 CDs on,
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in your luggage
to bring to Cuba.
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So our hope was
that there was a way
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to duplicate those there.
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So I took a
sample of our programming
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about 30 to 40
different types of programming.
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Children's
programming, family programming,
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marriage counseling,
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you know, health
programs and preaching.
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And I took all of
this and brought it
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to the Cuban Union
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of the
Seventh-day Adventist Church.
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And I said, I'm
looking, I'm here to investigate
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if you have a way
to duplicate this here.
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And so, I said, we
received a donation
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to be able to do this.
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And so you can,
it can be distributed
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to all the
churches and small groups.
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Oh, yes, yes we
have in the university.
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Yes, yes.
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And they showed me
and they said wonderful.
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How about the DVDs? Can you get?
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Yes, you can get DVDs
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for 50 cents very
easily in the stores.
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And so that's
what we started doing.
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So what does that do?
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That gets our name
in the people's minds.
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They can see some
of our programming.
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So when the Lord
opens the door later,
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then you know,
it's easier for us
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because we're already known.
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That was my thought
that was, I was working with.
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Fast-forward, we went over there
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and we came with the bold idea
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came to us to
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ask for a TV channel.
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Ask for a TV channel.
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We have a frequency
to put on our programming
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and there was a
pastor that came to visit us.
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And we told him, I told
him about the DVD project
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that we had over there.
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"Oh, why are you doing that?
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He says, I said,
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"Because we need to
preach the gospel everywhere.
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And right now Cuba
is one of those places
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where 3ABN Latino is not in."
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He said, "You know, do
you want a channel in Cuba?"
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I said, "We love to
have a TV channel in Cuba."
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I say, "Why do you ask?"
Because I know some people.
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I say, "You know some people."
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And so we started talking
and so we made the bold request
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to have a TV.
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We went to visit
some government people.
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And they said,
well, and we gave them
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a sample of our program.
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He says, we'll get back to you.
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And of course later we
hear that right now it's not,
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it's not the best of time.
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The idea was not, they're not,
they weren't ready for that.
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Got you.
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But this pastor
did not let it go.
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You know, a
couple of months later,
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three months later,
he came back and he says,
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you know, I have another idea.
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The way that people consume
television permit right now,
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the best way,
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the most popular
way is El Paquete.
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I said, "El Paquete.
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What do you mean?"
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So he explained to me
what I explained to you.
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Now this is interesting
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because God is taking something.
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It's fascinating to me.
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God is taking something
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that some people are
doing for different reasons.
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Our reason is, we want
to get into every city,
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every home to preach the gospel.
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These people are, we
want to entertain people.
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These people are,
we want to make money.
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So in order for
them to make money,
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they have to make themselves,
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they have to bring
their product to every city.
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They have to figure
out what's the best route.
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What's the best organization
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that they need to
bring this every week on time
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to every single city in Cuba,
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they have
figured that out already.
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So all we have to do is
provide our programming to them.
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Yes.
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And so, the Lord has
prepared the way let's say,
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and for us to get
approved was another process.
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Wow!
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And I want to hear all
about that process too,
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like in terms of
what the difficulty was,
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but what difficulties
did you face with COVID?
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COVID, you know, from
the human perspective,
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we think COVID slowed us down,
00:20:05.97\00:20:08.10
but the Lord has reasons
00:20:08.14\00:20:09.64
for allowing
these things to happen.
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We have begun to
see some of the reasons.
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Right now, I mean,
when we submitted our,
00:20:14.44\00:20:20.18
if we have
submitted our programming
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without knowing
more details as we did,
00:20:23.32\00:20:26.96
the reception of our programming
00:20:26.99\00:20:29.79
perhaps would not
have been as exciting
00:20:29.82\00:20:32.79
and as wow,
00:20:32.83\00:20:34.93
because when we
submitted our programming,
00:20:34.96\00:20:37.67
how we would like
our programming to be
00:20:37.70\00:20:39.20
on the package,
00:20:39.23\00:20:40.57
they, it was a
wow factor in there.
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They were like,
wow, this is great.
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It's very well organized,
the variety is very good.
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And the programming,
00:20:49.71\00:20:51.05
this is what they
said is exquisite.
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I say, wow.
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Praise the Lord. Yeah.
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So we, from the
human perspective,
00:20:57.09\00:20:59.79
think that the
COVID slowed us down
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by months and months,
but the Lord knows why,
00:21:02.19\00:21:05.09
the whys and wherefores
and we're going at the speed
00:21:05.13\00:21:09.90
that the Lord
allows us to go through.
00:21:09.93\00:21:11.43
Amen.
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And so we think,
00:21:12.83\00:21:15.30
you know, I
remember reading in a book
00:21:15.34\00:21:17.87
by Sister Ellen G. White,
00:21:17.91\00:21:19.27
the Lord's purposes do
not know haste nor delay.
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So I'm, I am comforted
and encouraged by knowing
00:21:23.24\00:21:25.65
that God is in control.
00:21:25.68\00:21:28.22
We're getting on the package.
00:21:28.25\00:21:29.88
And every step that
we have taken has been,
00:21:29.92\00:21:33.25
this is good.
00:21:33.29\00:21:36.12
You're doing
great. We want this.
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And so, we praise
the Lord for that.
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I can give you one example,
Pastor Hernell Hernandez,
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Chaplain Hernell
Hernandez went in November.
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And when you
talk about November,
00:21:49.40\00:21:51.71
we have to, November of 2020,
00:21:51.74\00:21:53.98
you have to understand
that from about April,
00:21:54.01\00:21:57.25
there were no
flights going to Cuba
00:21:57.28\00:22:00.88
because when COVID started,
00:22:00.92\00:22:02.52
seven people got infected first
and then it started to grow.
00:22:02.55\00:22:08.72
So they closed the airport down.
00:22:08.76\00:22:10.73
There was no getting into
Cuba and he's been waiting.
00:22:10.76\00:22:14.53
And at first we
thought it was okay June
00:22:14.56\00:22:18.13
and no, we can't do in
June, July, August, September.
00:22:18.17\00:22:20.77
I mean, every month was like,
00:22:20.80\00:22:22.14
okay, we'll see,
we'll see, we'll see.
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And then when they said
November 12 on the very day
00:22:23.74\00:22:26.91
that the government
said beginning, November 12,
00:22:26.94\00:22:28.51
people can come in.
00:22:28.54\00:22:29.88
He was there.
00:22:29.91\00:22:31.88
And so the process started to,
took off again in November 12,
00:22:31.91\00:22:38.45
our programming
was brought to them.
00:22:38.49\00:22:40.99
And there were
people to talk to still
00:22:41.02\00:22:43.83
that we were not
able to talk to in March,
00:22:43.86\00:22:45.76
because I told you we were there
00:22:45.79\00:22:47.13
in March of 2020.
00:22:47.16\00:22:48.50
We actually had to leave early
00:22:48.53\00:22:49.86
because we heard the
airports are going to be closing
00:22:49.90\00:22:53.10
either in the US or Cuba.
00:22:53.13\00:22:54.47
It was like,
00:22:54.50\00:22:55.84
and we were meeting with people.
00:22:55.87\00:22:57.71
Now, part of
getting on the package,
00:22:57.74\00:22:59.94
you have to understand
is the Council of Churches,
00:22:59.97\00:23:02.18
really anything...
00:23:02.21\00:23:03.55
And what is that?
00:23:03.58\00:23:04.91
The Council of Churches,
00:23:04.95\00:23:06.28
anything religious that happens,
00:23:06.31\00:23:08.38
whether it's books,
00:23:08.42\00:23:10.52
whatever it is that has to
do with religious activity in
00:23:10.55\00:23:13.36
goes through the
Council of Churches.
00:23:13.39\00:23:16.22
Big things have to get approved.
00:23:16.26\00:23:18.23
So the Council
of Churches is a...
00:23:18.26\00:23:21.96
has
representation from just about
00:23:22.00\00:23:24.53
every single
denomination in Cuba.
00:23:24.57\00:23:27.34
They started actually
before what you would call
00:23:27.37\00:23:30.21
the Cuban
revolution, communist revolution
00:23:30.24\00:23:33.07
that Fidel Castro started.
00:23:33.11\00:23:34.44
So they existed before that.
00:23:34.48\00:23:36.08
And when communism started,
00:23:36.11\00:23:38.68
Fidel Castro looked at
the Council of Churches
00:23:38.71\00:23:40.52
and he said,
well, these people are,
00:23:40.55\00:23:43.12
they're doing good
things that is well-respected.
00:23:43.15\00:23:48.29
So they respected
the council of churches.
00:23:48.32\00:23:50.59
So the Council of Churches
like I said has representation.
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The Seventh-day Adventist Church
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does not belong to
the Council of Churches.
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They can come for the meetings,
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but they're not voting members.
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The Catholic Church
is not voting members.
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There are a few churches
that are not part of it,
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but the majority
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of the religious
denominations are,
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have representation there.
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Okay.
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So for us to be able
to get into the package,
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because we're talking
about religious programming,
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getting into the package,
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the Council of
Churches has to approve it.
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So we had to
submit our programming
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to the Council of Churches.
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And the Council of Churches
looked at our programming
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and they, it was
like, this is wonderful.
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This is what the
people in Cuba need.
00:24:28.63\00:24:30.90
This is the stuff
they say. And that's huge.
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This is what
people in Cuba need.
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Yeah.
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So we were just praising God,
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because He has blessed us
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each and every step of the way.
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Amen.
00:24:39.94\00:24:41.28
He's opened some
tremendous doors,
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because, you know, when they see
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some of the
doctrinal differences,
00:24:45.31\00:24:47.52
maybe they might want to say,
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oh, well, no, we
don't want to have
00:24:49.75\00:24:51.25
this coming in,
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but no, they embraced it.
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And they passed it with,
it passed with flying colors.
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Praise God.
00:24:57.56\00:24:58.99
We're praising God for
what He has done so far.
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We know just like what
Dare to Dream gets into,
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into prison, into hospital.
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We know that lives are
going to be transformed.
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We've seen it so many years.
We've seen it how God works.
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I mean, it's amazing.
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So, what are some of the, like,
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how can our viewers
help you with this project?
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What do you need?
00:25:18.48\00:25:20.58
Well, you have to understand
some of the dynamics of this
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is, you know, we think
of being able to ship things
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and things like that.
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It's not like you
can put a pack up,
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put your
programming in a hard drive
00:25:31.79\00:25:34.50
and take it to
the local post office
00:25:34.53\00:25:36.16
and link it to
the FedEx or whatever,
00:25:36.20\00:25:38.67
one of those shipping places is.
00:25:38.70\00:25:40.87
This shipping
doesn't arrive in Cuba.
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Everything that gets into Cuba
00:25:43.87\00:25:45.21
has to arrive
either by boat or by plane.
00:25:45.24\00:25:48.01
And when I say plane, I mean,
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I don't mean shipping boxes.
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Yeah, like a cargo plane. Yes.
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So this is, this is the problem
that we have to physically,
00:25:54.08\00:25:57.09
right now, we
have to physically take
00:25:57.12\00:25:58.85
a hard drive
with the programming,
00:25:58.89\00:26:01.06
the hard drives with
the programming to Cuba.
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So how can
people help right now?
00:26:03.43\00:26:07.53
One of the things
that happens is that
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there's a monthly fee for us
00:26:09.36\00:26:11.17
to be able to
get in the package.
00:26:11.20\00:26:12.83
And so right now
is close to $3,000.
00:26:12.87\00:26:16.50
We are in conversation
with them to lower the price,
00:26:16.54\00:26:20.68
be considerate, lower the price.
00:26:20.71\00:26:22.64
And we are praying for
an answer and they said,
00:26:22.68\00:26:27.12
"Don't worry the
price is going to go down.
00:26:27.15\00:26:29.58
We are going to
bring this price down."
00:26:29.62\00:26:30.95
Well, I'll tell you what?
00:26:30.99\00:26:32.32
We want to put up like a way
00:26:32.35\00:26:34.59
that people can
support that they can donate.
00:26:34.62\00:26:36.93
So an address page,
and then we'll read that.
00:26:36.96\00:26:40.10
And hopefully
people will support this
00:26:40.13\00:26:42.43
wonderful initiative.
00:26:42.46\00:26:44.07
We'll put that up now.
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You can send your donations,
00:26:46.37\00:26:48.04
your tax deductible love gifts
to 3ABN Latino, PO Box 220,
00:26:48.07\00:26:52.44
West Frankfort, Illinois 62896.
00:26:52.47\00:26:55.81
Or you can go
online to 3ABNLatino.TV,
00:26:55.84\00:26:59.98
or feel free to give us
a call at (618) 627-4651.
00:27:00.02\00:27:06.25
And ask for Brother John Dinzey.
00:27:06.29\00:27:09.26
Yes.
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So this is a huge initiative
00:27:10.66\00:27:12.86
and God has just been incredible
00:27:12.89\00:27:15.60
throughout this whole thing.
00:27:15.63\00:27:16.97
I'm excited about
00:27:17.00\00:27:18.33
what's taken
place with 3ABN Latino.
00:27:18.37\00:27:20.34
Oh, yes, it's exciting.
00:27:20.37\00:27:22.00
And, I think the Lord
is preparing this world
00:27:22.04\00:27:24.54
for a great harvest of people,
00:27:24.57\00:27:26.71
of family for His kingdom.
00:27:26.74\00:27:28.51
Amen.
00:27:28.54\00:27:29.88
And I believe a lot
of souls will be won
00:27:29.91\00:27:32.35
as a result of this.
00:27:32.38\00:27:33.88
You know, with everybody
trying to get their content
00:27:33.92\00:27:37.59
on these packages,
00:27:37.62\00:27:39.32
but with the blessing of,
00:27:39.35\00:27:42.49
you know, the
Council of Churches
00:27:42.52\00:27:43.86
and all of that stuff,
00:27:43.89\00:27:45.23
moving this
forward is incredible.
00:27:45.26\00:27:48.23
And God is amazing.
00:27:48.26\00:27:49.60
Thank you for
coming on and sharing.
00:27:49.63\00:27:51.30
And we want to
thank you for joining us.
00:27:51.33\00:27:53.67
Remember, join us next time.
00:27:53.70\00:27:55.44
And it wouldn't be
the same without you.
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