Is a plant-based diet for you?
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Are you wondering
if you can have food
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that tastes good
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and is healthy for
you at the same time?
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Well, stay tuned to me,
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two folks who can
take you on the journey
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to help and
soothe your taste buds
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at the same time.
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My name is Yvonne Shelton,
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and you're
watching Urban Report.
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Hello and
welcome to Urban Report.
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My guests today
are Heidi Tompkins
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and Ivan Raj from
Heidi's Health Kitchen.
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Ooh, we have a good
program for you today.
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Welcome, Heidi and Ivan.
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Thank you. Thank
you for having us.
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Oh, you're welcome.
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I wish I could shake hands,
but this is the time of COVID,
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so I'll just
say I'm hugging you.
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And, you guys,
don't social distance
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because you work together.
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We're around each
other all the time.
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Right, right, right.
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So I just want to
let the audience know,
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we're not
disregarding social distancing.
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We're just, you know, we...
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They don't
social distance anyway.
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And so we do.
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We're are distance apart.
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So tell us about
Heidi's Health Kitchen.
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What is it? Sure.
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So Heidi's Health Kitchen
is a ministry and a business.
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Okay.
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The business
supports the ministry.
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We give...
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Our ministry
gives cooking classes,
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health lectures, Bible studies,
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online programs,
large public programs
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to educate people
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in the laws of
health and the gospel.
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And our business
supports our ministry
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and our business...
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In our business we manufacture
Decadent Carob products.
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And we cater and we
operate a pop-up restaurant
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to support our Bible
work in our ministry.
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Now that sounds amazing.
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For those who don't know
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what a pop-up
restaurant is, what is that?
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Sure.
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So basically,
we look for a venue
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or a cafe or a coffee house
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or something that's
operating during the day,
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closed in the evening.
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So when they close,
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we can rent the space from that
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and we open up as
Heidi's Health Kitchen.
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Oh, nice!
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So you're using
an existing facility
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that already has a clientele
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that can kind of
funnel into your business?
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And you can teach
them plant based living?
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Yes.
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And then, of course,
it's a win-win for the venue,
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because we're
bringing in our clientele
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and they're
seeing maybe this place
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that they've maybe
never come to before.
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Nice, nice.
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So what kinds of
foods do you have there?
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Well... Okay.
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Wait, wait, do I need a napkin
'cause I may start salivating?
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So primarily, I
provide the American
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and Italian type dishes
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and, of course,
Ivan is from South India,
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so we offer South
Indian food as well.
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Yeah. Yummy.
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Now how did you get involved
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with Heidi's Health
Kitchen and with Heidi?
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How did you guys meet? Oh, okay.
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So actually, Heidi and I
met at a church in Manhattan.
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And we were both Bible workers.
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And I actually
brought her the proposal,
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after I prayed and asked God,
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as to how I can start
self-sustaining business
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that supports the Bible work.
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Nice. So God gave...
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God answered the prayer
and He gave me the wisdom
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to put together
a proposal in 2014.
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And then I showed the proposal,
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I emailed the
proposal to Heidi and I said,
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this is what we're gonna do.
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Even the name
also God gave it to me
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as Heidi's Health Kitchen
after I fasted and I prayed.
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How beautiful.
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You know what I love about this?
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You guys is, it's both
ministry and it's a business.
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So you're making your
living through ministry
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which is wonderful.
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You are Bible instructors,
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so you know the word
and that word is kind of,
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I want to say,
implanted into the food.
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Yes, it is.
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You what I mean?
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The principles are...
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You're living
out the principles,
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so I think that is so beautiful.
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And every recipe is from
God and we thank Him for it.
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And we ask Him, you know,
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to put His finger
in there and stir it
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and make it just right
for every palate and all that.
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What are some of the challenges
that you find you have
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with this
particular kind of ministry?
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I would say probably
one of our challenges
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is that just we
do so many things
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and so our schedule,
for example, like it's very,
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you know, it's very meticulous.
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Like we've got certain hours
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that we do our
manufacturing weekly,
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certain hours that, you know,
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we're in the
kitchen and so forth,
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and then the other
hours where we can schedule,
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you know, Bible work
or counseling sessions
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for our Bible
students, mentoring.
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Ivan also offers
business mentoring
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to his Bible students as
well and our Bible students.
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And so, we just are
doing so many things.
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And then, you know,
speaking engagements
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and speaking projects,
and we're just doing so much.
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I would say,
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I think that our challenge
is probably managing our time,
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which we just...
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We've got a very
regimented schedule
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to be able to handle it all.
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Wow. Yeah.
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So God gave us a
wisdom to not time manage,
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but priority management,
what is urgent and important,
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take care of that right away.
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So we kind of have like a chart
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where we write
down what is urgent,
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the most urgent, and
what is the most important,
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what is the least
urgent and least important,
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and then we go by that.
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Wow. That's...
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So anything
which is highly urgent
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and top priority, important,
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that will be taken care of first
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and the least important
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and least priority
urgency will be last.
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Right.
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Within our schedule of
all of our other things.
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Right.
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So how many
people work with you?
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Is it volunteer
work, is it paid by you?
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Our staff are part-time.
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They're paid staff, part-time.
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And so we have a paid
staff that works for us
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at our pop-up restaurant.
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Helen is our
pop-up restaurant manager.
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She's been such a blessing.
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God brought us Helen
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and she's had years
and years of restaurant
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and catering experience.
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She's been such
a blessing to us.
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And then we've got
some part-time staff as well
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that helped with
the pop-up restaurant.
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At our pop-up restaurant
I'm the host and a server,
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and then Hannah and Addie
and Grace are servers as well.
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So our part-time
staff is four to six people
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depending on the event.
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Wow!
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So look at how God has
brought you what you've needed.
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Yes.
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Like at every juncture
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He's brought you the
people that you need,
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He brings you the
facilities that you need,
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and you're doing an
incredible work from...
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Praise God.
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You guys are doing great work.
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And I'm just so
thankful for what you're doing.
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Praise God.
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Now you incorporate
Indian food into the cuisine?
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Yeah, we give two options
for people to choose from,
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either the Western or Indian.
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So people select on
our website and they prepay
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and they come and dine.
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And it's all plant-based?
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All plant-based and gluten-free.
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Oh, wow.
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A wholefood
plant-based gluten-free.
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We also offer oil-free dishes
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for those that are
more health conscious,
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and we operate
our pop-up restaurant
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as a three-course
prefix for a set price.
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They choose
their entree appetizer
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and dessert out of some choices.
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Indian is one of them.
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And...
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You know, I know
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that the viewers are now saying,
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okay, so where is it?
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Can I go?
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So it's currently...
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We actually started
our pop-up restaurant
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in Manhattan four years ago.
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And then the last three years
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we've been in Long
Island in Babylon, New York,
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in Babylon village.
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It's a quaint little place
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and really nice
if anyone's visiting.
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That tells about
your decadence chocolate.
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Well, it's a decadence carob.
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Decadent Carob. Carob.
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Now, by the way, I
just want to mention
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our pop-up restaurant,
we're only open once a month.
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It's the third
Sunday of the month.
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Oh, okay.
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So for all of
our New York viewers,
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it's the third
Sunday of the month
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and it's the pop-up restaurant.
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Yeah, they go
right onto our website,
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they book their ticket
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and choose
their menu in advance.
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Okay, and we're gonna
put your website up as well
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so that people will know
exactly how to reach you.
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And at our pop-up
and at our other events,
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our products are
available as well.
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So like our CARUBIES,
our Decadent Carob truffles,
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or our CARUBELLA, our
Decadent Carob spread,
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FIGSPRESSO is another one
of our signature products.
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Wow. It's a coffee replacement.
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Okay.
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Did you bring samples?
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We didn't bring in that one,
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but we brought
the other products.
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That's great. That's good.
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We'll talk after the program.
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That's wonderful.
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So what you're
finding, I would imagine,
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is that people are gravitating
to what you're doing,
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because you're offering
them good taste and health.
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Yes.
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What kinds of people
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are you servicing
at the restaurant?
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Usually, it's
the upper middleclass
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and above.
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Tell us about
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some of the
people that you serve?
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Yeah.
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It is because we are located
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or the pop-up
restaurant location
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is in a place
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where it's mostly
upper-middle class
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and upper-class clientele.
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So therefore, our catering
is also geared towards them,
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our services are
geared towards such people.
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Yeah, fluent and the educated.
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A lot of...
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Of course, in New York
a lot of Jewish families.
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You know, a lot of people
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who are just
interested in health
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looking to better their health
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and, you know, looking
for the best way to do it.
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That's great.
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You have some
situations there with people
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that yet you've
helped with their health.
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Tell us about it? Yes.
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Oh, so many.
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Wow. So...
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Well, now we also...
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Prior to this time
that we're living in now,
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we also gave
cooking demonstrations
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and hands-on cooking classes.
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We have many, many people
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who have come through our
free cooking demonstrations
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in midtown Manhattan,
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and then they've joined
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our paid
hands-on cooking classes,
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where we cook
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an entire
five-course meal together
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so they can actually get
the hands-on instruction.
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We have many
testimonies from that.
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People that thought,
okay, I can actually do this,
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I can switch my diet, I
can change my lifestyle,
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and we've shown them
many, many testimonies
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how they now know that
they can live healthier
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and have a better lifestyle
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and from our
pop-up restaurant as well.
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Because, you know, we
serve many of the things
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that we've demonstrated
here on cooking shows at 3ABN.
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And so, for example,
when we serve as an appetizer,
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or herbs stuffed
avocados, people ask,
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"Wow, you know,
do you give recipes?
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Like, can I get
the recipe for this?"
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And I tell them, "Sure,
you can just go to 3ABN,
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go to YouTube and search 3ABN
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and you can find
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our cooking
programs right there."
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And, of course, we're hoping
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that while they're there
they'll watch other programs.
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Exactly. That's great.
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That's great.
That's what we want.
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Yes. That's great.
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So they come in and
they have a cooking class.
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Walk me kind of through,
walk us through the process?
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So they find that
about you from the website
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or from watching or online...
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Sure. Eventbrite or something.
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They come what happens?
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To a cooking class? Yeah.
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Or to the restaurant and
then you funnel them into.
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Sure, sure.
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So our cooking classes,
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we demonstrate four
to five different dishes.
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One of the
elders of our churches
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is a naturopath
in original medicine,
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and he does short health talks
in between each cooking demo.
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And, you know,
it's all to, you know,
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get people to be able
to consider their health
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and see that they
can make the transition
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and understand the benefits
that they could receive.
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And so people get
to taste everything,
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they get to take
home the recipes.
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When they come to our pop-up,
you know, they're seated,
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they're greeted with a smile.
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At our pop-up we
have testimonies of people
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who've been able to
improve their health.
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We also have testimonies
about the atmosphere,
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very peaceful.
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We're playing
instrumental Christian hymns,
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we've got health and physical,
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mental and
emotional health tracks.
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Little pamphlets on
the table, they can read,
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they can take with them.
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And, you know, this is
the way we see it, Yvonne.
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These people are...
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We know that the
people in the world
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are living in darkness.
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And we pray from the moment
someone books their ticket,
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and even if
there's an empty seat
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up until the time
that seat is filled,
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we're praying.
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I can tell you
our pop-up ministry
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is probably more
of a prayer ministry
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than a food ministry,
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because we pray for
every single person.
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We ask God to
prepare their hearts
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before they arrive.
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We ask that that one hour,
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hour and 15 minutes
that they're dining with us
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that they will be
brought out of darkness
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into God's marvelous light,
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and they would crave
it from thence forward.
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Oh, that's beautiful.
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We pray for all
their sins to be forgiven
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and that God would cover them
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with His blood
and His righteousness
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and lead their
feet to the city of God.
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Aw, that's so beautiful,
because without prayer that...
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You have to have prayer.
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Because this
isn't just a business.
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We're not doing
our pop-up restaurant
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for business.
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If we were, we'd be
open every day of the week
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and so forth,
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but this is really a
part of our ministry.
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Yes, that's great.
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So are you able to...
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You have pamphlets
there you're able to include
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spiritual information.
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They are mostly Glow tracts.
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So they've got something.
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They've got, you know,
something in them that,
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you know, that
leads them that way.
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The health ones,
even the water tract.
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You know, at the end
there's a Bible verse,
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you know, at the end
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or a scripture
reference, you know?
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So there are physical health,
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mental or emotional
health related tracts.
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And then from people
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coming to our pop-up restaurant,
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we tell them
about our other events,
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we tell them about our
cooking demonstrations,
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we also offer
in-home food programs,
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in-home
cooking, in-home juicing,
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and we've gotten those
clients from our pop-up as well.
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So you go to
someone's home? Yes.
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Oh, wow. And teach them.
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That's great,
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because you're in
their environment,
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you can look and
see what they have.
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You can say, oh, you
know, what a better...
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Yes, to be able
to pray in their home
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even if they don't
know that we're doing it
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just to invite
God's presence there,
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to be there even when we leave.
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Yeah, it's a real blessing.
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I would think with
that kind of a place
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you will also attract people
who are like Buddhists and...
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All backgrounds.
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Absolutely. Yeah, yeah.
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Yeah. Yeah.
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Because of the vegan,
the whole thing plant-based.
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Yeah, absolutely.
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So I would think
that that would be.
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And one of the things
you guys have been doing
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is you have been doing research
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and investigation of
yoga and its effects.
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And I want to
talk a bit about that.
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Sure.
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Because, as you know,
I don't have to tell you,
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yoga is
infiltrating the churches,
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schools, society.
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And, Ivan, you being Indian
and having come from India,
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you know firsthand
about Hinduism and all that.
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So talk to us a bit,
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if you would
about that, about yoga.
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I'd like to know, and I
know a lot of our viewers
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would like to know
00:16:05.66\00:16:07.00
about yoga and
what that's about?
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Yeah.
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So yoga is from
my country, India,
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and it is rooted in Hinduism.
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The word yoga means to yoke,
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to unite, to marry, to combine.
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And so yoga is
actually a ritual,
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a Hindu ritual.
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It is a physical
expression of worship
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if you do just stretching,
even if you don't chant,
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and even if you just do a
yoga posture or a stretching,
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you're still following Hinduism.
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Now, this, Ivan, what
you just said is critical,
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because I have heard...
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You know, my
background is that New Age thing
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and I was practicing
alternative medicine,
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but New Age
modalities and stuff.
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And one of the
arguments for yoga from people
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is it's just exercise.
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It's different.
It's just stretching.
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There's nothing
wrong with stretching.
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There's nothing
wrong with stretching.
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So tell us why is that...
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Why is it not
just exercise? Yeah.
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So stretching is
different from yoga.
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Everybody...
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We all have to
stretch for blood circulation,
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and it's very good for health.
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You have to stretch.
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However, yoga, the postures
and the stretching in yoga
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is designed as
a form of worship.
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Worship to whom? Self.
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Ah!
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Each pose, each
different yoga pose
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actually invokes a Hindu God.
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So that the lie
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that Satan told
you can be like gods.
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So when God gave this
program, you know, into my mind,
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when he put into my mind,
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it was purely
through God's grace,
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I was able to
decipher the techniques
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about the postures in yoga.
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I mean, the
techniques about yoga,
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the postures and
the breathing techniques
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and so, so much involved
in yoga is just Hindu ritual.
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It's a Hindu lifestyle.
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So if as a
Christian I practice yoga,
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then I am saying that
Jesus is not adequate for me,
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because as a Christian,
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He is the author and
finisher of my faith.
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And yoga has
nothing to do with Christ.
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Has an entirely
different author.
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So when a Christian says,
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I do yoga and I'm a Christian,
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and it's not hurting me.
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I still go to church,
I still read my Bible.
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I mean... So my question...
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How is it hurting me? Yeah.
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My question is,
if I go to a mosque,
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if I enter a mosque, right,
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and if I do this, and they say,
00:19:05.71\00:19:08.54
I'm still worshiping
Allah, even though I'm a Muslim,
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but my hand gestures...
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If they saw that cross?
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Yeah, would it be acceptable?
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Not acceptable.
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So how is it then acceptable
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when you
practice a Hindu teaching,
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the Hindu philosophy.
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It's actually...
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Yoga is part of
one of the six schools
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of Hindu philosophy.
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There is a philosophy
called Samkya, S-A-M-K-Y-A,
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Samkya philosophy,
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one of the six
schools in Hinduism,
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and it means numbers.
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It also means knowledge.
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It is a theory
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and the
practical part of Samkya,
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the practical arm of
Samkya philosophy is yoga.
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And it is
atheistic in nature. Wow.
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Yeah, Hinduism is
actually atheistic,
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antitheistic,
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so there are two
schools combined in Hinduism.
00:20:01.56\00:20:05.40
Now that's interesting
00:20:05.43\00:20:06.77
because I thought that Hinduism
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was just theistic
00:20:08.54\00:20:10.31
in that there's so
many millions of Gods.
00:20:10.34\00:20:13.27
Yeah, 33 million Gods
including Donald Trump.
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He's a God. Donald Trump?
00:20:16.85\00:20:18.55
Yeah, people
worship Trump in Hinduism.
00:20:18.58\00:20:21.52
If you want to go to YouTube
00:20:21.55\00:20:23.59
and just type
worshiping Donald Trump,
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you will watch videos
00:20:27.96\00:20:29.29
of people
worshipping Trump as God.
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Oh, my! I'm just...
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Because it's not
a sin in Hinduism,
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because you are God, I
am God, everybody is God.
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So the 33 million
Gods are also people?
00:20:37.37\00:20:40.80
Yes.
00:20:40.84\00:20:42.17
They were once upon a time
who lived and they died and...
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And some of them are alive.
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They have God men, you
know, that are still alive.
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So when one practices yoga...
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I just want to make sure
that our viewers get this,
00:20:54.58\00:20:57.15
because this is critical.
00:20:57.19\00:20:59.02
You're not just stretching.
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If you take a yoga class,
00:21:00.86\00:21:02.76
you are actually
inviting the spirits
00:21:02.79\00:21:07.03
that are connected
to that to Hinduism.
00:21:07.06\00:21:11.03
Yes, yes.
00:21:11.07\00:21:12.40
And entering
their territory. Yes.
00:21:12.43\00:21:14.70
Going on their ground. Yeah.
00:21:14.74\00:21:17.34
And bring it in into
your home if you watch it?
00:21:17.37\00:21:18.71
Yes.
00:21:18.74\00:21:20.08
So what about "Christian yoga"?
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There's nothing...
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Okay, people can
brand it as Christian yoga,
00:21:24.08\00:21:27.92
but it doesn't exist,
because yoga is Hinduism.
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You can never
separate it from Hinduism.
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It is Hinduism.
00:21:36.02\00:21:37.36
That would be like
saying I'm a Christian Hindu.
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Wow!
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They're two different
things, which are you?
00:21:41.06\00:21:42.86
It's one or the other. Right.
00:21:42.90\00:21:44.27
Are you
monotheistic or polytheistic?
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Right. Right.
00:21:47.64\00:21:49.34
And also in India,
00:21:49.37\00:21:50.97
a lot of gurus
say that in the past,
00:21:51.01\00:21:55.24
the Brits came
and stole our gold,
00:21:55.28\00:21:58.01
now the Westerners
have stolen our yoga
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and they've Christianized it.
00:22:00.35\00:22:02.15
You have your own God,
00:22:02.18\00:22:03.52
why you want to
follow our teachings
00:22:03.55\00:22:06.52
and then Christianize
it and make it yours?
00:22:06.55\00:22:09.22
It's an insult to Jesus Christ.
00:22:09.26\00:22:13.06
Oh!
00:22:13.09\00:22:14.43
Now that's a powerful statement.
00:22:14.46\00:22:17.73
It's an insult to Jesus
when Christians practice yoga.
00:22:17.77\00:22:22.30
Yeah.
00:22:22.34\00:22:23.67
Yeah, because that's
saying, He's not enough.
00:22:23.71\00:22:26.57
He is not enough.
He is not adequate.
00:22:26.61\00:22:27.94
Yeah. He's not.
00:22:27.98\00:22:29.38
Yeah. Wow.
00:22:29.41\00:22:30.85
So besides the stretching
with yoga, there's breathing,
00:22:30.88\00:22:36.32
there is meditation.
00:22:36.35\00:22:37.69
Yes, there is
breathing, there is meditation,
00:22:37.72\00:22:39.05
there is diet, it's
called a sattvic diet,
00:22:39.09\00:22:41.89
which is a vegetarian diet,
not vegan, not plant-based,
00:22:41.92\00:22:45.39
it's a vegetarian diet.
00:22:45.43\00:22:46.76
In fact, Buddha was not a vegan.
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Buddhism is also
from my country, India.
00:22:49.73\00:22:52.37
And Buddha
consumed dairy products.
00:22:52.40\00:22:56.00
So I'm always
surprised to see Buddhists,
00:22:56.04\00:22:59.17
sorry, Buddha statues in a vegan
00:22:59.21\00:23:01.28
or plant-based restaurants,
00:23:01.31\00:23:03.28
whereas Buddha was not
a vegan or plant-based.
00:23:03.31\00:23:07.25
That's so interesting,
00:23:07.28\00:23:08.62
'cause I've always
thought that Buddha was a vegan
00:23:08.65\00:23:13.52
that, you know,
vegetarian, vegan or whatever.
00:23:13.56\00:23:16.93
And so you're saying that
that wasn't the case at all.
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No, not at all.
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In Buddhist
writings it is mentioned
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that he consumed dairy
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and he actually
died of food poisoning.
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A group of Buddhists say
he died of food poisoning
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because of consuming mushrooms,
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other groups say he
consumed, he ate, pork.
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So Buddha has nothing to do
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with veganism or
plant-based diet.
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Wow.
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So it's interesting to me
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how a lot of the
Eastern religions
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have crept into Christianity.
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And it's so dangerous
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and yet it's
presented in the media
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as therapeutic, harmless.
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It's so good for "you." Yeah.
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And yet, if you're a Christian,
you have to do your research,
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you can't just
accept things at face value.
00:24:12.21\00:24:14.92
You have to do
your research and know
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that this is not of God.
00:24:16.99\00:24:19.25
A lot of people
recently have put YouTube videos
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that they have left yoga.
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A lot of them, especially
during the lockdown period,
00:24:28.36\00:24:30.47
a lot of them.
00:24:30.50\00:24:31.83
Because they
started experiencing
00:24:31.87\00:24:33.20
supernatural
effects and they got scared.
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Negative
supernatural... Negative.
00:24:36.71\00:24:38.04
Negative, negative.
00:24:38.07\00:24:39.81
Negative, which
is scary to them.
00:24:39.84\00:24:41.18
And they said, "Oh,
wow, this is not good for me.
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This is not right."
00:24:44.18\00:24:45.51
Yes, yes. Yeah.
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So you really have gotten deeply
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into the study of this.
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Are you able to share this
with people at the restaurant
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or is it something
that you keep separate?
00:24:58.96\00:25:01.86
It's a separate entity
and I do it separately.
00:25:01.90\00:25:05.10
When people invite me
to present at churches,
00:25:05.13\00:25:08.07
I do that. Good.
00:25:08.10\00:25:09.44
And we have an
address page for you
00:25:09.47\00:25:11.97
so that people can do that.
00:25:12.01\00:25:13.34
Okay.
00:25:13.38\00:25:14.71
They can contact
you and invite you
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to come to
their church and do...
00:25:17.21\00:25:19.25
Do you do cooking classes? Yeah.
00:25:19.28\00:25:20.62
Yeah. All of that.
00:25:20.65\00:25:22.38
We often go, you know,
to a church for a weekend
00:25:22.42\00:25:24.72
and we can do a
weekend of programs, you know,
00:25:24.75\00:25:26.99
from Friday
night through Sabbath,
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Sabbath evening,
00:25:28.49\00:25:29.82
and then Sunday
do cooking programs
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and health programs.
00:25:31.23\00:25:32.56
Oh, that's awesome.
00:25:32.59\00:25:33.93
So let's put that
page up on the screen.
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Heidi's Health
Kitchen, PO Box 232,
00:25:35.66\00:25:39.07
Babylon, New York, 11702.
00:25:39.10\00:25:42.64
So you can see
that and their website,
00:25:42.67\00:25:45.51
and an email address
if you want to email them.
00:25:45.54\00:25:48.61
Ivan or Heidi, they
can reach you there.
00:25:48.64\00:25:51.71
So that's really good
00:25:51.75\00:25:53.18
because I'm sure
that people will have
00:25:53.21\00:25:55.55
questions about food, about...
00:25:55.58\00:25:58.89
Now do you ship the chocolate?
00:25:58.92\00:26:00.59
Yeah, we ship across the US.
00:26:00.62\00:26:01.99
I keep saying
chocolates, the carob.
00:26:02.02\00:26:03.89
Carob, yeah.
00:26:03.93\00:26:05.26
CARUBIES and CARUBELLA,
00:26:05.29\00:26:06.66
all of our products
we ship across the US.
00:26:06.70\00:26:09.53
They're great gifts so.
00:26:09.56\00:26:11.80
Yes, I've tasted them
and they are delicious.
00:26:11.83\00:26:14.30
I just have to tell you.
00:26:14.34\00:26:15.84
So thank you for
what you're doing.
00:26:15.87\00:26:18.07
So what would you, both of you,
00:26:18.11\00:26:19.71
I want you to
look into your camera
00:26:19.74\00:26:22.08
and speak to that
person that's battling
00:26:22.11\00:26:25.95
either with
their diet or with yoga
00:26:25.98\00:26:29.68
or with whatever
temptation that is
00:26:29.72\00:26:32.62
speak to, both of you,
00:26:32.65\00:26:34.12
speak to your
camera and just briefly,
00:26:34.16\00:26:36.79
like 30 seconds apiece.
00:26:36.83\00:26:38.99
Tell us, tell them
what they should do?
00:26:39.03\00:26:41.76
Well, you know, God doesn't want
00:26:41.80\00:26:43.13
any of us to be sick.
00:26:43.16\00:26:44.63
He created us to
be in good health
00:26:44.67\00:26:47.24
and He wants you
to be in good health.
00:26:47.27\00:26:49.80
So if you're
struggling with foods or recipes
00:26:49.84\00:26:52.94
or ways to stretch and exercise,
00:26:52.97\00:26:55.81
whatever it might be,
00:26:55.84\00:26:57.25
check out our website, go
to HeidisHealthKitchen.com
00:26:57.28\00:27:00.05
and contact us and
check out the cooking shows
00:27:00.08\00:27:03.08
that we've done here on 3ABN
00:27:03.12\00:27:04.65
and the other
resources that we have to offer.
00:27:04.69\00:27:06.99
And we pray that
God would keep you
00:27:07.02\00:27:09.26
in good health.
00:27:09.29\00:27:10.79
You have about 10 seconds, Ivan.
00:27:10.83\00:27:13.16
And I pray that you
will do a lot of research
00:27:13.19\00:27:17.03
before you continue
your practice on yoga
00:27:17.07\00:27:19.70
if you're already into it.
00:27:19.73\00:27:21.20
And I pray that God
will give you the light
00:27:21.24\00:27:24.17
and all the information you need
00:27:24.21\00:27:25.57
so you can make a decision.
00:27:25.61\00:27:28.04
Thank you so much.
00:27:28.08\00:27:29.41
Thank you so much
for what you're doing.
00:27:29.44\00:27:30.81
You guys are a
light in the darkness.
00:27:30.85\00:27:33.08
Praise God.
00:27:33.11\00:27:34.45
You are a shining
light upon a city on a hill.
00:27:34.48\00:27:38.12
And so we just thank you
so much for what you're doing.
00:27:38.15\00:27:40.96
And we thank you for joining us.
00:27:40.99\00:27:43.29
You know, every day we
try to bring you programs
00:27:43.32\00:27:46.43
that will be a blessing.
00:27:46.46\00:27:47.96
So make sure to
join us next time
00:27:48.00\00:27:50.67
'cause you know what?
00:27:50.70\00:27:52.03
It just wouldn't be
the same without you.
00:27:52.07\00:27:54.97