Do you or anyone you
love suffer from lupus
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or any other autoimmune disease?
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Well, stay tuned
to meet two women
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who have found some solutions.
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My name is Jason Bradley,
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and you're
watching Urban Report.
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Hello and
welcome to Urban Report.
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According to the
Lupus Foundation,
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9 out of 10 adults
with lupus are women.
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One in three lupus patients
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suffer from
multiple autoimmune diseases,
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and lupus is two to three times
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more prevalent
among women of color.
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My guests today
are Dr. Joyce Choe,
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founder of Wholeness
for Life, And Mercy Ballard,
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Years Restored
Lifestyle director.
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Welcome to Urban Report.
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Thank you. Thank
you for having us.
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Great to have you here.
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I know we have a lot to
cover in a short amount of time.
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So tell us a little
bit about how you met?
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Well, Mercy has
a lifestyle center
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in California
called Years Restored.
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And in January of
2016, I was a client there.
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I went there for a
10-day detox program,
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and we have been
in touch ever since.
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Wow. Wow.
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Okay.
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And what made you
decide to write this cookbook,
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The Autoimmune
Plant Based Cookbook?
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Well, you know,
there is a lot of people
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that cannot attend
to our lifestyle center,
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perhaps their finances
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or where they
live, things like that.
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So I always
wanted to have a book
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where we have all the principles
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in one place,
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and especially a seven-day menu
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where people can just
follow the menu, the recipes,
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and they can
recover, get better.
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So when I met Joyce
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because, you
know, I needed somebody
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that can make it
a super great job
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putting all the words together.
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And I met Joyce and
couldn't be the best person.
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She's the writer in the book,
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and she brings
the science together.
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So it was just a
great, good team to this work.
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Good partnership.
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Excellent. Excellent, excellent.
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Now you guys have had
your own health journey.
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Why don't you share a
little bit about that?
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Mercy, why don't you start?
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2004, I was becoming sick,
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prior to that I
was super healthy
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and very energetic.
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But 2004 I started,
you know, getting weak,
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no endurance,
shortness of breath, brain fog,
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and ended up in the hospital.
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So 2006, I still...
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That's when I started...
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I recovered pretty much
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because I changed
my ways of eating.
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Even though I was plant-based,
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and I was very health conscious,
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but I didn't know many things
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that were happening in
this world with toxicity
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that, you know, I
was getting toxic.
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But anyhow going back
ended up in the hospital,
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getting blood transfusion
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because I wasn't
absorbing nutrients.
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And so later on,
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you know, God let me
to learn about this GI lab
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where they tested me
for food sensitivities
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and find out that, you know,
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I was having
those kinds of issues.
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And I was always healthy,
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but in medical
school or residency
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when I was pretty young still,
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I was put on a
pretty powerful antibiotic.
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It was in what we call
the fluoroquinolone family.
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Okay.
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And this category of antibiotics
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is very popular, commonly given.
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But it has a black box warning
'cause it's quite dangerous.
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It is now...
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So what is the black
box warning, is that like,
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you can die from it?
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Well, it can cause
all kinds of issues.
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It can cause
connective tissue issues,
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psychiatric issues,
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it's known as a
mitochondrial poison.
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And, you know, some
people report like things
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like Achilles tendon
ruptures and retinal detachment
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and these types of things.
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And the one that I was put on,
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it was taken off
the market within a year
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because it caused
liver failure and death.
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And it caused me
to get very weak,
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and that weakness
just progressed over years
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and years and years.
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And so it was kind
of an abnormal weakness
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and that like, I couldn't,
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you know, pick
up kids very well.
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You know, I just felt
like I couldn't do the things
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that I needed to do.
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And, you know, I had
a lot of chronic pain
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for 20 some years.
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And so I was just
looking for answers.
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So when I was diagnosed
with leaky gut in 2011,
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I started on an elimination diet
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that took care of a lot of pain.
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And then when I...
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In 2016, went to the
Years Restored Program,
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it helped me even
further with other symptoms
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that I had been developing.
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Wow, I can't
imagine 20 years of pain.
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A lot of people deal
with it, a lot of people.
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And I think that, you know,
when I went to Years Restored
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and did the
10-day detox program,
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and on the third day, I woke up
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and, you know, had no
pain and I had, you know,
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no shortness of
breath, which I've developing.
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I just realized, you know,
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you don't
realize how bad you feel
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until you feel so much better.
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Because we get very
used to feeling bad,
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it's so gradual.
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It's kind of like that
frog, you know, that's...
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In the water...
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In the water that's getting hot.
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And it happens so
gradually that you're not aware.
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Absolutely.
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And it becomes the norm for you.
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It's a normal.
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I mean, you think that
everybody's dealing with that.
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Well, I think it's the
norm for our society so...
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Let's talk about, you
know, the chronic pain
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and the role that
nutrition plays in it.
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Well, for instance, for me,
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I felt like I just
didn't deal with stress
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well, 'cause my
pain was in my neck,
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and then my shoulders,
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and I felt "Oh, maybe this is
just what it's like to get old.
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You have arthritis, maybe,
you just have muscle pain,
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and you just don't
know how to handle stress."
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And I found that it may be true,
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it may happen more with age,
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but I was pretty much pain
free with just changing my diet.
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Wow.
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And the interesting thing
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was that I had been
going to lifestyle centers
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'cause I was very
interested in health,
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you know, nutrition,
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all that kind of
stuff, I'm very interested,
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I love teaching people about it.
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And I would go to these
places, and we'd be making,
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you know, whole wheat bread
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and all those
good food from scratch,
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and I'd still
be in so much pain.
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I just never put
the two things together.
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Yeah.
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So basically,
you can eat to live
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or you can live to eat, which...
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Yes, but nowadays,
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it's like you can eat
really good healthy food
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and still have it be a problem.
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That's the confusing thing.
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Yeah. And why is that?
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You know, this
world has changed so much,
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you know, the
agricultural practices,
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also all the
toxicity from this world.
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So it's just
different, it's not the same.
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So foods that I ate in the past,
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they were totally healthy,
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but then when I studied
like, you know, gut sick.
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Then, the food is
totally different.
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We think that a few
things that have happened,
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that are very significant.
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One is that in the
1950s, 60s was around the time
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that they started
changing the way wheat was made.
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Wheat is a much different
plant than it used to be
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'cause one plant can produce
about 10 times more wheat
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than the original,
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and it has changed the
structure of that wheat.
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So that's one thing.
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The other thing is that
sometime around the 1970s,
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I think was when
glyphosate was introduced.
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And that's the active
ingredient of Roundup,
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and its use has
simply just escalated.
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And now we are
spraying glyphosate pretty much
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on all of our crops.
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You know, if you
have any kind of grain,
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your breakfast
cereals, your breakfast breads,
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you're going to have
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high levels of
glyphosate a lot of times.
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That's scary.
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And so, you know,
glyphosate has been patented
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as not only a weed killer,
it is a mineral chelator,
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it will bind up minerals
like magnesium and calcium
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and those things that you
need for your cells to work,
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and then it will also
serve as an antibiotic.
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So it changes the microbiome.
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So all of these
things are having
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an effect on the gut.
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And we think that that's
why in the last couple decades,
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we're seeing
children being affected
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with these serious diseases
that we never saw before,
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you know, and all
these mysterious things
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that people are
having a hard time
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putting a diagnosis on.
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Yes, yes, 'cause
what we're consuming
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has changed the
molecular structure...
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Has changed us generationally,
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and, you know, I think
the epigenetic components
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and how it's changing people,
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you know, one
generation to the next,
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it's just weakening our systems.
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Yeah.
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Let's talk a little
bit about inflammation.
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What is inflammation?
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Well, inflammation is
defined as you can see it,
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you can see the redness,
you can see the swelling,
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you can feel
pain and tenderness.
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And it's simply that your body,
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like if you have
a cut, for instance,
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your body is recruiting cells
to come and help you fight.
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It's helping
you fight infection,
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it's helping you
repair that wound.
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So that's what inflammation is.
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It's simply your body's effort
to help itself get better.
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Wow.
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So with arthritis
and all of those things
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like your body's
trying to get better?
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Typically disease is
an effort of the body
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to help itself improve.
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Okay, okay.
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Or deal with something.
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How does lifestyle
impact inflammation?
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Well, it's very important
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to eat these
anti-inflammatory foods.
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So we really like to push
for eating a lot of greens.
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The greens are super
powerful anti-inflammatory foods
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and, you know, also
the herbs are even better,
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certain herbs.
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So for example, thyme is great.
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Stevia even is great.
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Mint is one of the
greatest antioxidant foods,
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very high antioxidant.
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So we actually put it together
a pack of all these herbs
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that are super antioxidants
so just to shake in our meals
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and just give this
huge antioxidant boost
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to our system.
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So very important to
eat inflammatory foods
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but if you don't
remove the cause,
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then you're still
going to have inflammation.
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So you have to remove
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what is causing
the inflammation.
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So removing these toxins,
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a lot of times
it's processed foods.
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You know, it has
so much chemicals.
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'Cause that was
my next question.
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What foods cause inflammation?
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So there's processed foods
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another thing is
foods that are high on AGE.
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What is AGE?
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Anti-glycation.
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Advanced glycation end-products.
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These are simply things
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that form when
you heat up your food.
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So if you caramelize your food
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and you're roasting your nuts
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and these kinds of things,
you're going to end up...
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It's like cooking
the nutrients out of it.
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No, it's changing
the structure of it
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and what ends up...
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well, it's the same
thing that happens in your body
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when you have
diabetes for instance,
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and your blood
sugar goes so high
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so that the sugar
will abnormally bind
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to certain molecules,
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and it will
change their structure
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and that is what causes damage
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to the blood
vessels for instance.
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And that's why people
have bleeding in their eyes
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and in their
kidneys and scarring
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and that kind of thing.
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It's usually when you cook foods
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that are high in proteins
and fat at the same time,
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so that'll be meat,
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but in the plant-based
it will be nuts, right?
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So then you cook
in dry environment
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like baking, and
frying, things like that
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so the levels of AGE are so high
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and so inflammatory.
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But just for a basic thing,
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you know, foods
that are inflammatory
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tend to be foods that are fake,
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for instance,
refined carbohydrates,
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sugared or
artificially sweetened sodas,
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and processed meats,
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those tend to be
very, very inflammatory.
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Dairy can be inflammatory.
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Wheat can be inflammatory.
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You were asking about nutrition.
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And we know that
the gluten and wheat
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causes your body
to produce zonulin
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and zonulin will then,
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when it attaches
to these receptors
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on your intestinal cells,
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it'll cause you
to develop leaky gut
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because it causes your
tight junctions to be lost.
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Wow.
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I'm glad that you guys came out
00:13:32.41\00:13:34.04
with this Autoimmune
Plant Based Cookbook.
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Because as I'm listening,
I'm like, wow, so okay,
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so wheat isn't,
you know, isn't good,
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it can cause the inflammation
and stuff or some form of it.
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Wheat just maybe a lot different
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than what it used to be
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and anecdotally
you'll hear people say
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that when they go to
Europe and other places
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that maybe have
different ways of growing food
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that they can
tolerate wheat better there.
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So there may be
something going on there.
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Okay.
00:14:01.84\00:14:03.17
And, you know, again,
00:14:03.20\00:14:04.54
I forgot to do this
00:14:04.57\00:14:05.91
at the beginning of the program,
00:14:05.94\00:14:07.28
but we always have to
put the disclaimer out there,
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make sure we're
talking about different recipes
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and all of that stuff
and cutting things out.
00:14:11.65\00:14:13.85
But we want to make sure
00:14:13.88\00:14:15.22
that you consult your
primary care physician,
00:14:15.25\00:14:18.39
as they've been
working with you,
00:14:18.42\00:14:19.75
and they know
your specific case.
00:14:19.79\00:14:21.92
We're talking
about potential solutions
00:14:21.96\00:14:24.23
and things that work naturally.
00:14:24.26\00:14:27.96
But it might not
be right for you,
00:14:28.00\00:14:30.03
or it might be right for you,
00:14:30.07\00:14:31.40
but you must consult
your primary care physician.
00:14:31.43\00:14:34.44
Yeah, we always say
this is health education.
00:14:34.47\00:14:35.80
Yes.
00:14:35.84\00:14:37.17
Absolutely. Not medical advice.
00:14:37.21\00:14:38.77
Absolutely. I like that.
00:14:38.81\00:14:40.14
I like that. Make
an informed decision.
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That's right.
00:14:42.24\00:14:43.58
Tell me about
the 10-day program.
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What does that consist of?
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The 10-day program is...
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The first five days we do detox
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because
autoimmunity is toxicity.
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And so we work doing
juices and teas and poultices,
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internal poultices so
to remove these toxins.
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And in the next five
days we introduce foods,
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at the beginning, it's raw foods
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to build up the good
bacteria, the microbiome
00:15:06.37\00:15:08.77
because when you
have autoimmunity
00:15:08.80\00:15:11.01
there is an
imbalance of the bacteria
00:15:11.04\00:15:12.57
so we want to build
up the good bacteria fast
00:15:12.61\00:15:16.34
so the inflammation can improve.
00:15:16.38\00:15:19.41
And yeah.
00:15:19.45\00:15:20.78
So would you
say like probiotics,
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like to build up
the good flora or no?
00:15:22.68\00:15:24.42
Well, we get the
probiotics or the bacteria,
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we try to
replenish it using food.
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Got you.
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Got you. Nice.
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Because there's
the probiotic foods
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that you can eat,
which is, you know,
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the probiotics come
from the soil, right?
00:15:38.10\00:15:42.07
So if you have a healthy
way to plant your vegetables,
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then you're going
to get your probiotics.
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But the prebiotics are
00:15:49.01\00:15:51.45
what is going to
feed the probiotics
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and which is to
increase your fiber foods.
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Okay, okay.
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We actually have
a video of someone
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who went through
the 10-day program.
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And he had quite a
bit of great things
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to say about it,
his name's Brandon.
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And let's get ready to
take a look at that now.
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So back when I was
about 20 years old,
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I got put in the hospital
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for having
really low blood count,
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and it is called
hemolytic anemia.
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And little did I know then
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that that was the beginning
of a disease that I had.
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For years I've had the
symptoms of skin issues,
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little rashes
popping up all over my body,
00:16:35.82\00:16:39.26
just here and there,
on my face, on my legs,
00:16:39.29\00:16:42.00
on my arms,
00:16:42.03\00:16:43.53
and, you know,
some stomach issues
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that got worse and
worse as the years progressed,
00:16:46.50\00:16:48.97
the stomach issues.
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And then it got
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to where I started
feeling really bloated a lot.
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Found out that I had a disease
00:16:55.88\00:16:57.65
called mixed
connective tissue disease.
00:16:57.68\00:16:59.88
And so I was taking
the Hydrochloroquine
00:16:59.91\00:17:04.52
to try and keep my immune system
00:17:04.55\00:17:06.92
kind of hushed to
where I wouldn't have
00:17:06.96\00:17:11.13
as many flares or
possibilities of flares.
00:17:11.16\00:17:13.73
Somebody here who
worked told me about Mercy
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and Years Restored,
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and they told me
about her cookbook,
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it's kind of where it started.
00:17:22.24\00:17:24.11
They started telling me
about this autoimmune cookbook
00:17:24.14\00:17:27.61
and, of course,
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I was very
interested in that now
00:17:29.01\00:17:30.35
that I had learned that I
had an autoimmune disease.
00:17:30.38\00:17:32.45
And I learned
00:17:32.48\00:17:33.82
that Mercy had been dealing
with autoimmunity in her life.
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Out of the different
places there was to choose from
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because she had dealt
with autoimmune disease,
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I thought this has got
to be the place to go to.
00:17:43.83\00:17:46.43
I learned what
foods that I could eat
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to heal the autoimmune disease
00:17:48.83\00:17:52.33
or to put it in
remission as we call it.
00:17:52.37\00:17:55.24
And then not only
did I learn what foods,
00:17:55.27\00:17:59.11
but she teaches you
how to make the foods
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so that was
definitely an added blessing.
00:18:04.01\00:18:09.12
Also, all the health
classes that she teaches,
00:18:09.15\00:18:13.19
most of the
research that she has
00:18:13.22\00:18:15.02
is coming from
doctors' research,
00:18:15.06\00:18:18.69
so this isn't just
some natural remedy
00:18:18.73\00:18:22.26
that something, you know,
00:18:22.30\00:18:23.63
you don't know for
sure if it works or not,
00:18:23.67\00:18:25.23
this is research
that's being done.
00:18:25.27\00:18:27.74
So that was pretty
impressive to me as well.
00:18:27.77\00:18:30.44
My energy was coming back,
my strength was coming back.
00:18:30.47\00:18:33.78
And I told her
that I really feel like
00:18:33.81\00:18:35.84
that my years
have been restored.
00:18:35.88\00:18:38.61
And, you know,
the two or three years
00:18:38.65\00:18:41.35
I haven't been able to run,
00:18:41.38\00:18:43.15
you know, for
very long distances
00:18:43.18\00:18:44.75
and now I feel
like I've got that back.
00:18:44.79\00:18:47.42
And my recovery time
like whenever I go to the gym
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and I work out,
00:18:50.93\00:18:52.43
before I went in
to Years Restored,
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it hurts and it hurts for days.
00:18:54.76\00:18:58.10
But now when I go to work out,
00:18:58.13\00:19:01.14
the recovery time
is so much faster.
00:19:01.17\00:19:03.41
I don't feel... I
don't hurt as bad.
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I don't really hurt at all.
00:19:05.81\00:19:07.38
I go and I work out
00:19:07.41\00:19:08.74
and the next day I
feel nice and tight.
00:19:08.78\00:19:10.81
Like I used to feel
back when I was younger,
00:19:10.85\00:19:13.15
but I don't feel like
00:19:13.18\00:19:14.52
I'm just totally exhausted
for two days, you know?
00:19:14.55\00:19:17.22
So it's amazing
how much, you know,
00:19:17.25\00:19:21.62
eating the right
stuff can make a difference.
00:19:21.66\00:19:23.96
This way it is well thought out,
00:19:23.99\00:19:28.66
there's a lot of
science behind it.
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I really think that this
is the best diet to choose
00:19:31.03\00:19:35.44
if you really want to put
this thing into remission.
00:19:35.47\00:19:38.37
You want to have
your energy restored,
00:19:38.41\00:19:40.24
your years restored,
00:19:40.28\00:19:42.44
and you want to
start feeling better
00:19:42.48\00:19:44.08
and get on a new
way of eating for good.
00:19:44.11\00:19:48.32
This is a lifestyle for people
that have autoimmune disease,
00:19:48.35\00:19:51.92
you really have to
just totally change the way
00:19:51.95\00:19:55.32
you think what you eat,
00:19:55.36\00:19:57.19
and retrain yourself
to eat a different way.
00:19:57.23\00:20:01.03
And as a result of doing
that, you'll get the benefits.
00:20:01.06\00:20:05.70
So I think it's
the best, best diet.
00:20:05.73\00:20:07.84
I actually know
Brandon, he actually,
00:20:14.84\00:20:16.54
he used to work here.
00:20:16.58\00:20:17.91
He's a great guy.
00:20:17.95\00:20:19.28
And he is a great guy,
00:20:19.31\00:20:20.65
and I'm so glad that
things turned around for him.
00:20:20.68\00:20:23.55
I know that you
have the cookbook, right?
00:20:23.59\00:20:26.52
You have the 10-day program.
00:20:26.55\00:20:28.29
Yes.
00:20:28.32\00:20:29.66
What other
services do you offer?
00:20:29.69\00:20:31.73
Well, if people
go to my website,
00:20:31.76\00:20:33.53
DrJoyceChoe.com.
00:20:33.56\00:20:35.76
And my last name is spelled
C-H-O-E, DrJoyceChoe.com,
00:20:35.80\00:20:39.37
you can find out
where we're going to be
00:20:39.40\00:20:41.20
'cause we go to churches,
and we do weekend programs.
00:20:41.24\00:20:44.37
And we do
Friday, Saturday, Sunday.
00:20:44.41\00:20:47.24
And Sunday, they
can experience the food
00:20:47.28\00:20:50.08
and that kind of thing.
00:20:50.11\00:20:51.45
Oh, that's awesome.
00:20:51.48\00:20:52.81
So they can taste
test and everything.
00:20:52.85\00:20:54.18
They can taste
test and all of that.
00:20:54.22\00:20:55.55
Get the hands-on
experience. Right.
00:20:55.58\00:20:56.92
Yes.
00:20:56.95\00:20:58.29
And then we're also
preparing an online course.
00:20:58.32\00:21:00.72
And so we've filmed video demos
00:21:00.76\00:21:03.83
of how to do many of
the recipes in the book.
00:21:03.86\00:21:06.53
And so that we did
our first online course
00:21:06.56\00:21:10.80
in October,
00:21:10.83\00:21:12.17
and now we're preparing
to make it just available
00:21:12.20\00:21:14.14
online and on DVD.
00:21:14.17\00:21:15.80
And we have a
Facebook community,
00:21:15.84\00:21:18.27
plant-based gut
health on Facebook.
00:21:18.31\00:21:21.88
And so if people go to
AutoimmuneRecovery.com,
00:21:21.91\00:21:25.51
they can find out more
information about that.
00:21:25.55\00:21:27.68
Also, we do have a
company that we, you know,
00:21:27.72\00:21:32.49
put in very healthy products
00:21:32.52\00:21:33.86
for this population
of autoimmune disorder.
00:21:33.89\00:21:36.69
So we do have tortillas
00:21:36.73\00:21:38.49
that are sprouted and
gluten-free and healthy.
00:21:38.53\00:21:41.26
Nice.
00:21:41.30\00:21:43.63
Wow, you guys are active.
00:21:43.67\00:21:45.87
Yeah. Busy.
00:21:45.90\00:21:47.24
It's hard to keep up with her.
00:21:47.27\00:21:49.97
We have video of a recipe
00:21:50.01\00:21:53.34
and talking a little
bit about the online course.
00:21:53.38\00:21:57.15
And I think that we should
go check that out right now.
00:21:57.18\00:22:02.18
Mercy and I recently published
00:22:02.22\00:22:04.45
the Autoimmune
Plant Based Cookbook.
00:22:04.49\00:22:07.02
And in October of 2019,
00:22:07.06\00:22:09.82
we conducted our
first online course.
00:22:09.86\00:22:13.13
We called it the
Autoimmune Recovery Plan.
00:22:13.16\00:22:16.97
We provided 20
lectures on autoimmune disease,
00:22:17.00\00:22:20.27
leaky gut, and how to heal.
00:22:20.30\00:22:22.57
We also provided
video demonstrations
00:22:22.60\00:22:24.81
on how to prepare foods
00:22:24.84\00:22:26.47
from the Autoimmune
Plant Based Cookbook,
00:22:26.51\00:22:28.78
and how to have a
successful health journey.
00:22:28.81\00:22:31.25
So welcome to this lesson today.
00:22:51.23\00:22:52.83
We're going to talk
about how to make butters
00:22:52.87\00:22:56.40
and spreads from things
00:22:56.44\00:22:58.27
like pumpkin seeds
and sunflower seeds.
00:22:58.31\00:23:01.48
And so what we've done is
that we have already soaked.
00:23:01.51\00:23:06.08
And soaked the pumpkin seeds
00:23:06.11\00:23:09.52
and the
sunflower seeds overnight,
00:23:09.55\00:23:12.52
and then we have dehydrated them
00:23:12.55\00:23:14.69
for about 24 hours.
00:23:14.72\00:23:16.39
And so today,
we're going to make this
00:23:16.42\00:23:19.36
from the pumpkin seeds,
00:23:19.39\00:23:20.73
but I just wanted
to at least show you
00:23:20.76\00:23:23.06
the pumpkin and
the sunflower seeds.
00:23:23.10\00:23:26.07
And so, Mercy, can
you just let us know
00:23:26.10\00:23:27.90
how many cups of
what we're going to use?
00:23:27.94\00:23:29.74
Sure.
00:23:29.77\00:23:31.11
So we have one
cup of pumpkin seeds
00:23:31.14\00:23:32.87
and one cup of shredded coconut.
00:23:32.91\00:23:36.44
That makes it super great.
00:23:36.48\00:23:39.41
So one cup of coconut
and one cup of pumpkin seeds
00:23:39.45\00:23:44.95
that have already
been soaked overnight,
00:23:44.99\00:23:47.16
and how much salt is this?
00:23:47.19\00:23:48.86
This is one teaspoon of salt
00:23:48.89\00:23:50.23
that we're going to
add it toward the end,
00:23:50.26\00:23:51.76
otherwise it doesn't
make butter for some reason.
00:23:51.79\00:23:54.23
And the pumpkin seeds
have to be super dried.
00:23:54.26\00:23:57.67
Okay. Yeah.
00:23:57.70\00:23:59.03
So you want to make sure
00:23:59.07\00:24:00.40
that if you wash this
right before you use it,
00:24:00.44\00:24:02.17
that you dry it really good.
00:24:02.20\00:24:03.54
You don't want to
have any moisture.
00:24:03.57\00:24:06.27
So we're going to run
it for about 20 minutes,
00:24:06.31\00:24:08.91
right, Joyce?
00:24:08.94\00:24:10.28
Yeah, the thing about this
is that I've made it with salt.
00:24:10.31\00:24:12.65
And so that's probably
why it doesn't processed.
00:24:12.68\00:24:15.52
So it's going to
be 20 minutes and...
00:24:15.55\00:24:19.65
On high. Okay, so we're...
00:24:19.69\00:24:21.42
So here are the
seed butters at the end
00:24:27.30\00:24:31.03
of about what 20
minutes of processing
00:24:31.07\00:24:34.47
and here's the sunflower.
00:24:34.50\00:24:36.04
You can see the pumpkin seed.
00:24:36.07\00:24:37.87
It's a beautiful green,
00:24:37.91\00:24:39.97
and we didn't show you
00:24:40.01\00:24:43.11
how we
processed sunflower seeds,
00:24:43.14\00:24:44.78
but you can do
it exactly the same
00:24:44.81\00:24:46.25
with equal parts
of sunflower seeds,
00:24:46.28\00:24:49.18
coconut, and salt.
00:24:49.22\00:24:51.59
Well, not equal part salt,
00:24:51.62\00:24:52.95
but about a teaspoon
of salt per cup of each,
00:24:52.99\00:24:57.99
if that makes sense.
00:24:58.03\00:24:59.36
But we just tried this morning,
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and it was a huge hit
for our crew here today.
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Hope that you enjoy it as well.
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Wow, that looked
like a quick recipe.
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That was a quick recipe there.
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What else do you
want to add to that video
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that we just saw?
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Well, I just wanted
to let people know again
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autoimmunerecoveryplan.com
00:25:21.85\00:25:25.05
and the most important thing
that we want people to know
00:25:25.09\00:25:27.66
is that no matter
what you're struggling with
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or how long you've
been struggling with it,
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that we don't want
people to give up hope.
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Amen.
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You know, and we
want to help people
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to have faith in a Creator God
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and that there
is a creation-based
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recovery plan.
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Amen. Amen.
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Yeah, I think
that creation-based
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recovery plan is so crucial
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because I
remember we all sat down,
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and we were talking
about that evolutionary plan
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that they had going out
there and all of that stuff
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and so yeah,
that's, that's no good.
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So embrace the
creation-based Creator God plan.
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It's a different
paradigm. That's right.
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This is the
paradigm if it's true,
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it should get you to
a better place, right?
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And so we just think
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that this is going
to get them to the place
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that they want to be.
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And what are some of the
needs of your organization?
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Well, Mercy, why don't you...
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Well, we want to, you know,
bring this message to the world
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because we feel that God's
ways should be the head, right?
00:26:31.02\00:26:35.42
And right now it seems like
the evolutionary ways is ahead.
00:26:35.46\00:26:39.46
So we want people
to spread the message
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and join our
groups and just share it
00:26:42.40\00:26:47.14
what we're doing in Facebook
00:26:47.17\00:26:48.97
and join our classes to
learn and then teach others too
00:26:49.00\00:26:51.94
because the God
way is the best way.
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And we don't want
people to get just better,
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but we want people to get well.
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And God's way is going
to be you to that point.
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Absolutely.
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And what we're hoping
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is that people
will value good things,
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not for the sake
of just getting better
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and how they feel
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but for the sake
of it being truth,
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and it being the best.
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Amen.
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I want to put up
your contact information
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and then I'll have you read it.
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And yeah, we're
running out of time here.
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So Mercy's place
is Years Restored,
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she has a
website YearsRestored.com
00:27:23.87\00:27:26.21
and you can reach us at
AutoimmuneRecoveryplan.com,
00:27:26.24\00:27:30.05
the email is Hello
@AutoimmuneRecoveryplan.com
00:27:30.08\00:27:34.75
Is that good,
Mercy? Yeah. Excellent.
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Nice.
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Any quick closing thought?
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Well...
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I want to thank you
for the opportunity.
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It's been wonderful, I
mean, God has opened the door,
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so I would
praising God for this.
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Praise the
Lord. Praise the Lord.
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Thank you for
coming on and sharing.
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I appreciate both of you.
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And thank you for tuning in.
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Well, we've reached
the end of another program.
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Join us next time and remember
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it just wouldn't be
the same without you.
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