Have you ever wondered
how to live the abundant life?
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Well, stay tuned to meet
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two individuals who are teaching
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people to do just that
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on a global scale.
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My name is Jason Bradley,
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and you're
watching Urban Report.
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Hello, and
welcome to Urban Report.
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My guests today
are Joy Kauffman,
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Executive Director of
FARM STEW International,
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and Dr. Frederick Nyanzi,
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Board Member of
Farms to International.
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Welcome to Urban Report.
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Thank you. We are
so glad to be here.
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It's great to have you here.
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This is your first time
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on the Dare to Dream
network on Urban Report.
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So want to take the time
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to just introduce
you to our viewers
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and tell us a little bit
about your back ground, Joy?
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Great.
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My name is Joy Kauffman,
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and I am a master guider
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and a public health nutritionist
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and a mom.
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And it's really the mom in me
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that motivates my
work with FARM STEW
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because I really want
every mother to be able
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to provide for her
children, the very best
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and I believe
that's in the heart
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of most every mother.
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Yes.
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And also I'm a
very new converted
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Seventh-day Adventist Church.
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Real? How did that come about?
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Well, it's a long story,
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but in short it
was a wonderful case
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of friendship
evangelism by my dear friend
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and now our co-worker
Cherry Olin and her family,
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very blessed by
their perseverance
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in reaching me with the gospel.
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But then I say that it
was actually the Ugandans
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that finally got
me to join the church
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and get baptized,
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and that was just four
short years ago actually,
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and they are the inspiration
for the launch of FARM STEW.
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Praise the Lord.
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And we have Dr. Fred,
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you mind if I call you Dr. Fred?
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Dr. Fred is fine. All right.
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Dr. Fred, tell me a little
bit about your background,
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your upbringing?
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Again, I was born
and raised in Uganda.
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When I reached
the university level,
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I came to US.
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Okay.
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To Loma Linda to
take my education
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and I took
nutrition and biochemistry.
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Now, after I finished
my education at Loma Linda,
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I joined Loma Linda Foods
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to work there
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as a nutritionist.
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Now,
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I saw how they take these
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simple plant-based foods
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and bring nutritious food
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out of those products.
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And I say, we can do that
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because I'm
thinking of the country
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where I came from.
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We have areas
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where malnutrition runs rampant.
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And we said, "We can do that."
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But, of course, I didn't know
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how to do it because, of
course, I didn't have money.
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But then, I was...
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One time I was volunteering
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in Adventist
community center in St. Louis,
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then someone who had
attended one of the conferences,
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I think it was held in Chicago
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where Joy
Kauffman was presenter,
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and he came back and asked me,
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"Do you know FARM STEW?"
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And I said, "FARM STEW?
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What is that?"
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"Are they cooking stew
or something like that?"
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And he said, "No.
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And it's in
Uganda" I said, "In Uganda?
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Never heard of it?"
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Then I wanted to
hear more about it
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and I wanted to talk to her,
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but I realized
that she was gonna be
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in the same
conference where I would be.
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So I said, "I
would talk to her."
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And she
introduced me to FARM STEW
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and I was hooked.
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Wow.
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So you caught the vision?
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Exactly.
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By the way what I
have forgotten that
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really I've been an
Adventist for all my life.
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I was born an Adventist
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and so always been looking for
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something where we
can go and help our people
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spiritually and physically.
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So FARM STEW is
where I felt that
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it's doing something
for my native country
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about nutrition and well-being.
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Yes, yes Praise God.
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What is the
mission of FARM STEW?
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So our mission is
to improve the health
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and well-being of poor
families and vulnerable people
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by sharing the
recipe of abundant life
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throughout the world.
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Wow.
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So this recipe of abundant life,
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you might be curious?
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I am.
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It's an eight
letter health acronym.
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You may have heard
of other health messages
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that are expressed
with eight letters.
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NEWSTART. Ours are special.
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Ours, we try to reach the people
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that maybe don't have the
money to buy the vegetables
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that they need to have
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that healthy whole
food plant-based diet.
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So the letters are Farming,
Attitude, Rest and Meals,
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Sanitation, Temperance,
Enterprise and Water.
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We call those
the eight ingredients
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in the recipe for abundant life.
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So some of these
things you might hear
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from other messages
but for example rest.
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We have a slightly
different spin on it.
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Okay.
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We know, people need to sleep,
they need to take the Sabbath,
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but they also need
to give the land rest
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'cause that's
one of the challenges
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that many African farmers face
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is very depleted soils
that are not productive.
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Okay.
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So if we can
help them understand
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how to build up the soil health
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and have more
productive farming practices,
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they can begin to profit
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and be able to
feed their families
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with what they can grow.
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Wow, that's incredible.
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And so you go to...
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You're in Uganda? Yes.
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What are some other
places where you operate?
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Well, actually Fred has a
picture of when he was there,
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we were training together
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with a whole
group of trainers from
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Uganda and South Sudan.
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So you can see Fred
in the front row there
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in his South Sudan shirt
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with the South Sudanese trainers
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in the back.
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Nice.
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So the green is
FARM STEW Uganda,
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and then we are
moving into Rwanda
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as well in partnership
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with the medical
school that is opening there,
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as Ted Wilson was there
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launching that
effort this past fall,
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and we're really thrilled
to be partnering with them.
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Nice.
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We're also in Zimbabwe,
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partnered with a
few orphanages there
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that have captured the message
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and are now
raising their own food
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for over 300
orphans in Harare, Zimbabwe.
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Wow.
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So there's a lot of
exciting partnerships
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that are in the works,
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but our physical
teams on the ground
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are power house
behind what we do,
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our trainers.
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Got you.
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We actually have a
video that kind of gives us
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a little
introduction into FARM STEW
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and what you do.
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Let's go to
that video right now.
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In Sub-Saharan
Africa, one in three children
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is severely malnourished.
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People are
suffering from diseases
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that they can prevent
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with simple
habits and healthy food.
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They don't know
about sanitation.
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Education is a necessity.
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Kids have no hope
of a better future.
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But Jesus came to this
world so we can have life
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and have it more abundantly.
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FARM STEW is a
recipe for abundant life
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that includes
ingredients that prevent hunger,
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disease and poverty.
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Our mission is to
improve the health
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and well-being of poor families
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and vulnerable
people throughout the world
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drawing on biblical
wisdom and some science.
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Our African Christian
trainers equip families
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by conducting hands-on classes,
freely sharing practical skills
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so people can help themselves.
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Thanks to the
FARM STEW training,
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people learned
to live abundantly
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with fresh homegrown
food, clean water, tidy homes,
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savings clubs and
strong community ties.
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FARM STEW also supports
girls to stay in school,
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by giving them
washable pads and confidence.
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Your gifts equip
desperately poor families
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and vulnerable people so
they can help themselves.
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Will you give for
abundant life today?
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FARM STEW, a
recipe for abundant life.
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Wow.
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That's a lot going on.
That is a lot going on.
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How do you make the
determination where to go?
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You know, when you
look at Africa in general,
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you see different areas,
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different
countries, different cities.
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And sometimes may think
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that the whole of
Africa is like that.
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But FARM STEW what it
does, it will go to the areas
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where poverty stricken areas
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so that they can help
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those communities improve
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to get out of
that poverty situation,
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so they can be able
to support themselves,
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with the right diet
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and good nutrition of course.
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Yes. Yeah.
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Yes.
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And they say, there's a
picture where we went and...
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Where we're
training these trainers,
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those who are
training their local people.
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If we can bring that up.
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Yeah.
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In this exciting
story about the South Sudan
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what we're showing here.
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We actually started in Uganda
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and then we talked
to the Ugandan Union,
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they said, "We really
need you in the refugee camps.
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There's a million
South Sudanese refugees
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in Uganda that
have fled the war-torn."
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Wow.
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Very difficult
situation in South Sudan.
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So we were in the
refugee camps training,
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and then the president of
the church of South Sudan,
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Pastor Clement Morah,
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came to us and he
said, "Come to South Sudan."
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We're like "Whoa, we don't have
the resources at this point."
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He said, "Let's pray
and let's work on it."
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Yes, that's what we did.
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And so actually in January 2019,
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we launched a
team in South Sudan
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who you just saw.
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Wow.
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And it honestly is one of
the most painful countries
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just in terms of
the poverty and the war
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that has
displaced so many people.
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Yes.
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So we go where God is leading,
and where He opens the door.
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And so what's your approach?
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Okay, so you go
into the countries
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and then, what's your
approach that you take
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when you go into the countries
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and you speak to the citizens?
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Well, one of the things we
try to focus on is what we call
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'Asset based
community development'.
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So we're not just
coming in with the problems,
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you know the statistics,
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you know, kids are malnourished,
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people are dying.
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That's depressing. Yeah.
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Nobody wants be part of that.
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So we try to come in
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and build up
the local community,
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we hire locals, they
speak the local language,
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they know the local culture
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and then the other thing is
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they try to find model
people in the community
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that become
farmers to volunteer.
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Nice.
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These are the people that
we might have a cooking class
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or we might have
a gardening class,
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hands-on, everything's
very hands-on practical.
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And teaching them the
skills they need to thrive
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right where they are.
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And then we'll go back and see
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who are the families that
are truly, truly implementing.
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And we do have a few
stories to share of people
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that are implementing
this work at a very high level.
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Yes.
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Please share them.
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Okay, great.
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I'm gonna jump to
the story of Mr. Wilson.
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Okay.
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We train this on tippy taps
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which is a hand
washing station system
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that really helps people
be able to wash their hands.
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It's one of the
most important...
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The World Health
Organization says it's the most
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health preventing
behavior that you can...
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Not health preventing,
disease preventing behavior
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that you can have.
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And so these tippy
taps are life changing.
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But Mr. Wilson found that his
actually got stolen at night.
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Oh, wow.
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And he was frustrated.
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But we had also
taught about enterprise,
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helping people to
think in entrepreneurial ways
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'cause there's
not really jobs out,
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especially in the
more rural villages,
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there's not very many jobs.
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Yes.
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So Mr. Wilson got creative.
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He said, I could make
a tippy tap on a stand
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that could be taken in at
night so it can't be stolen,
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and then the model
was such a great idea
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that he started a whole business
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making these tippy tap
stands for his neighbors.
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So he came up with,
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poured the idea for
a portable tippy tap?
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Yes. Wow, that's incredible.
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Yes. It's very cool actually.
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Yes.
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So now people have a place
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where they can wash their hands.
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What about portable water?
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So water is a challenge
in a lot of these communities
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and that's something we
as a board of directors,
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and Dr. Nyanzi is on
our board of directors,
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and we really went
through a process of saying,
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"We've got to do more
for these communities."
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A number of the
places are they...
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Some of them
like Kalungama village
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where we're working
with the women's group,
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very powerful
testimonies coming out of this.
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If you go to YouTube
and type in FARM STEW,
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you can see these testimonies.
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But we found out
that they are walking
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two miles for water.
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Two miles for water? Yes.
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And then they are
carrying it back two miles?
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Yeah.
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And actually
we're teaching farming.
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So not only are they
carrying it back for themselves,
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but they have
been carrying it back
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to water these little seedlings.
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How many of us would
garden in that circumstance?
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Yeah, I don't know
if I would make it.
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I don't think I would either.
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Yes.
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But, so we decided that
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we really needed to
do something better.
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Again, our philosophy is local.
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So we found actually a
local business enterprise
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that's a well drilling company.
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They're called Freedom Drillers.
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We're just kind of cool because
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our theme for
this year is freedom.
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Wow.
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And we wanna bring
freedom, in our water campaign
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we're calling freedom
from disease and drudgery.
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You can imagine the drudgery
of carrying water that far.
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Yes.
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And often it's even young
girls who are very vulnerable
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when they are out
there by themselves
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just getting the water.
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It's terrible situation.
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So our plan is to fix or repair
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or build the new at
least 50 pumps this year.
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Wow, it sounds like you
got a big project going on,
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a huge project.
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Can you tell me any
stories of maybe a life
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that's been transformed
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or lives that
have been transformed
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as a result of FARM STEW?
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Yes.
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When I had that
opportunity to go back to Uganda
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to really see
what FARM STEW does,
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I was able to go in a
placed called a German
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out in the
northern part of Uganda,
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and this is a mostly...
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We have mostly refugees.
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And in those refugee areas,
they don't have enough space
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to grow their own food.
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They have little place
where they can do gardening
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but it's not enough.
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So there's this leader
here who used to be a teacher
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and he decided to be
involved with FARM STEW.
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And what he introduced was
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to start a community gardening
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where all those
different families
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in that community can go
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and have a place
where they can grow food
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to feed their families
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and sometimes
to sell the excess.
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Wow.
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Yes. Wow.
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And so I remember, you
know, I've had the opportunity
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to sit down with you
and talk to you guys,
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and I remember you
sharing something with me about
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how the
communities would come together
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and they would pool
their money together.
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Can you talk on
that a little bit?
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Yes, I'll let Joy touch on that.
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Sounds good.
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We have what's called
'Community Savings Clubs',
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and so a lot of the
people in these poor,
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you know, circumstances,
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the money just that they have it
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just passes through their hands.
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But when we provide a context
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or a club
setting where everyone,
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the community sets the
rules and they come together
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and they decide every week
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we're gonna put in a
certain amount of money
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so in one community
might be 50 cents a week,
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another, one of our
communities Kalungama village,
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they were
putting in a $1.75 a week
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which is huge, really.
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Dr. Fred was saying,
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they often are
making like $20 a month.
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Wow. $20 a month.
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Well, that was
gonna be my next question
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to break that down
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as to why a $1.75 a week
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is a huge deal?
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So they're making $20 a month?
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$20 a month and sometime
those are the privilege.
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In some areas,
known to the whole country
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but in the areas where
they're poverty stricken,
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they don't have enough money.
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So to spare a
$1.75, that's a lot.
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Now each dollar,
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if you want to know
the equivalent of dollar,
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its equivalent
to 3,500 shillings.
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That's what they use.
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But you said, okay, so
they have a lot of money,
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I mean, 3,500,
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how much does a
gallon of milk cost?
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Yes.
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It will cost,
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let's see...
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$3.
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Okay.
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Which is more
than 10,000 shillings.
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Wow.
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And remember, $3
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when you are
getting $20 a month.
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Yes.
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You can see what the problem
they have in these areas.
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Yes.
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And you can see from
that why there is just so many
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severely malnourished children.
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We try to go places
where at least one in three
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of the children is suffering,
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what's called 'stunting'
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which means it's a
type of malnutrition
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that is so severe,
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it's gonna affect them for life.
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Wow.
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And we want to prevent
stunting from happening.
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Yes.
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And as you can
imagine, who can afford milk
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in that circumstance?
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So when we go
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and we teach
them to grow soy beans
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and that they can
make their own milk
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in just a simple mortar
and pestle like they love it.
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They absolutely love it.
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And I... Yes.
00:19:08.11\00:19:09.44
Every single video, I
know Americans kind of have
00:19:09.48\00:19:10.91
different
feelings about soy milk
00:19:10.95\00:19:12.51
but every video
that they bring in
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from the field that
the trainers send in,
00:19:15.62\00:19:18.12
probably the first thing
out of the people's mouth is
00:19:18.15\00:19:20.66
they taught us how to make milk.
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Wow.
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And actually in South Sudan,
00:19:23.73\00:19:25.49
lot of the war was
actually fighting over cows.
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So lot of the
displaced people, the refugees,
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part of their grief
is they don't have cows
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and they can't get milk.
00:19:33.54\00:19:35.00
And we had this Amon,
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who he is talking about
work in these refugee camps.
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They actually,
00:19:39.77\00:19:42.04
they say that's bringing peace
amongst these warring tribes
00:19:42.08\00:19:45.25
because normally, you
know, after fight over milk
00:19:45.28\00:19:47.62
is they have what
they called the green cow,
00:19:47.65\00:19:49.88
but then also
they're coming together,
00:19:49.92\00:19:51.62
cooking together.
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Some of these refugee camps,
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they have 42 language groups.
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Wow.
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And our trainers are so amazing
like lot of them actually,
00:19:57.46\00:20:01.16
these are full time
employees of FARM STEW Uganda
00:20:01.20\00:20:04.73
and they know often
five or six languages.
00:20:04.77\00:20:08.10
Wow, five or six languages?
00:20:08.14\00:20:11.07
They're so smart.
00:20:11.11\00:20:12.44
And they train, you
know they choose people
00:20:12.47\00:20:15.31
from the
different language groups
00:20:15.34\00:20:16.68
that speak maybe
one of their languages
00:20:16.71\00:20:18.51
and then they teach
them to train others.
00:20:18.55\00:20:20.52
So we've counted, we
have actually hands-on
00:20:20.55\00:20:23.82
our trainers have
trained 80,000 participants,
00:20:23.85\00:20:28.16
and we are so excited.
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I know that number soon
will be much, much higher.
00:20:29.86\00:20:33.36
But we can't even
count the number of people
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that those people
that have been trained,
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have gone and trained.
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Yes, yes.
00:20:39.07\00:20:40.40
And you wanna
switch, there's a picture
00:20:40.44\00:20:41.77
that we have of the greens
that they're preparing greens.
00:20:41.80\00:20:44.84
So this is us showing just
something that's so important.
00:20:44.87\00:20:47.84
We take for granted
how important greens are,
00:20:47.88\00:20:50.85
although most
Americans don't eat their greens
00:20:50.88\00:20:52.75
like they should.
00:20:52.78\00:20:54.12
Yes, that is true.
00:20:54.15\00:20:55.48
Actually African-American
diet was the collard greens.
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They lead the way
in like consumption
00:20:58.19\00:21:00.26
of dark leafy greens.
00:21:00.29\00:21:01.92
And in fact we could
learn a lot from that.
00:21:01.96\00:21:05.23
But the greens in this context,
00:21:05.26\00:21:07.86
they are so important for iron.
00:21:07.90\00:21:10.37
Over half of the
children are severely anaemic,
00:21:10.40\00:21:12.70
lacking iron.
00:21:12.73\00:21:14.07
Yes.
00:21:14.10\00:21:15.44
So just teaching
how to even grow greens
00:21:15.47\00:21:17.01
and also there's wild
greens growing everywhere.
00:21:17.04\00:21:19.51
It's a tropical country.
00:21:19.54\00:21:20.88
Many of them are edible,
people don't realize that.
00:21:20.91\00:21:22.81
They get so
excited when they realized
00:21:22.84\00:21:24.71
they can actually make food.
00:21:24.75\00:21:26.08
Mustard, turnip
greens are good too.
00:21:26.11\00:21:28.35
I do like collard greens,
00:21:28.38\00:21:29.72
I like mustard,
turnip greens too.
00:21:29.75\00:21:31.72
There's so many awesome greens
00:21:31.75\00:21:33.66
and they all make
your circulation flow,
00:21:33.69\00:21:36.22
your brain functions better
00:21:36.26\00:21:37.59
'cause you're being
properly oxygenated,
00:21:37.63\00:21:39.69
and ultimately this
is a spiritual message
00:21:39.73\00:21:41.66
you can hear
from the Holy Spirit,
00:21:41.70\00:21:43.03
when your brain is
functioning, your blood is rich.
00:21:43.06\00:21:45.43
Ellen White
talks a lot about that,
00:21:45.47\00:21:47.44
actually having
rich healthy blood.
00:21:47.47\00:21:49.20
And the Bible says,
00:21:49.24\00:21:50.57
"The life of the
flesh is in the blood."
00:21:50.61\00:21:51.94
Yes.
00:21:51.97\00:21:53.31
So all our
curricular is Bible based,
00:21:53.34\00:21:54.68
Spirit of Prophecy infused,
00:21:54.71\00:21:56.31
and that's why
this health message,
00:21:56.34\00:21:58.35
it's the entering
wedge to people's hearts.
00:21:58.38\00:22:00.68
Absolutely.
00:22:00.72\00:22:02.05
You know, within ministry
with such a global impact
00:22:02.08\00:22:05.69
and all of the
things that you're doing,
00:22:05.72\00:22:08.66
do you ever find
yourself getting discouraged?
00:22:08.69\00:22:12.49
Well, I have to say
we do have an enemy.
00:22:12.53\00:22:15.16
And our theme
verse is John 10:10,
00:22:15.20\00:22:18.27
that the thief comes only
to kill steal and destroy.
00:22:18.30\00:22:22.30
And yet Jesus comes
that we might have life
00:22:22.34\00:22:24.44
and have it abundantly.
00:22:24.47\00:22:25.81
Amen.
00:22:25.84\00:22:27.18
And, you know,
we have to all of us
00:22:27.21\00:22:28.54
claim that promise every day,
00:22:28.58\00:22:29.91
claim the power of
the Holy Spirit every day.
00:22:29.94\00:22:31.95
I do not feel enough
to lead this ministry
00:22:31.98\00:22:35.25
and that thought
can enter my mind
00:22:35.28\00:22:37.39
if I allow it every day.
00:22:37.42\00:22:39.82
But it's not about me.
00:22:39.85\00:22:42.19
It's not about Dr. Fred,
even though he's way qualified,
00:22:42.22\00:22:44.99
he's a PhD, a nutritionist
all his years of experience.
00:22:45.03\00:22:48.86
But it's not about us,
00:22:48.90\00:22:50.23
it's about the Holy
Spirit working through us
00:22:50.27\00:22:52.60
and, you know, trainers,
our trainers, they inspire me.
00:22:52.63\00:22:55.64
I get out of bed,
it's eight hours earlier
00:22:55.67\00:22:57.74
in East Africa
than where I live.
00:22:57.77\00:22:59.94
And, so I often wake
up with text messages
00:22:59.97\00:23:02.61
about what's going on over there
00:23:02.64\00:23:04.28
and one of our
trainers is Betty,
00:23:04.31\00:23:06.01
I say she's my twin.
00:23:06.05\00:23:08.38
We are the same
age, with the same heart,
00:23:08.42\00:23:11.32
the same savior
and she always says,
00:23:11.35\00:23:13.69
"Joy, time is short.
00:23:13.72\00:23:15.19
Jesus is coming.
We've got to get to work."
00:23:15.22\00:23:17.79
So there's no time
for discouragement.
00:23:17.83\00:23:20.13
You told me
about a specific time
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a while back about
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you were watching something
and that your power went out,
00:23:24.77\00:23:28.54
touch on that story?
00:23:28.57\00:23:29.90
Oh, goodness. It was so cool.
00:23:29.94\00:23:31.67
It was when the ministry
is quite young and honestly,
00:23:31.71\00:23:34.51
I was feeling
overwhelmed, like who am I
00:23:34.54\00:23:36.48
to be leading a
ministry in Africa really.
00:23:36.51\00:23:39.08
And just a self
doubt and everything,
00:23:39.11\00:23:42.38
and I was watching the 3ABN show
00:23:42.42\00:23:45.65
about how these
ministry started.
00:23:45.69\00:23:47.76
Of mending broken
people, yes. Exactly.
00:23:47.79\00:23:50.29
And Danny Shelton, he
was saying how this area,
00:23:50.33\00:23:54.30
you know, it's in
the middle of nowhere.
00:23:54.33\00:23:56.03
How am I gonna carry
the message to the world?
00:23:56.06\00:23:58.63
And I'm like four
hours north of here
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in the middle of nowhere,
00:24:00.54\00:24:01.87
tiny little town,
thinking, "Oh, my goodness,
00:24:01.90\00:24:04.64
God is giving me
this vision of FARM STEW
00:24:04.67\00:24:08.18
that could reach the world.
00:24:08.21\00:24:09.84
How am I gonna do this?"
00:24:09.88\00:24:11.21
So I'm watching
this YouTube video,
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feeling like at the
time kind of discouraged
00:24:14.25\00:24:17.62
and the power
went out in my house.
00:24:17.65\00:24:20.39
And I'm watching this video
feeling very inspired to seeing
00:24:20.42\00:24:22.96
how this little
mustard seed of a ministry
00:24:22.99\00:24:24.79
was now reaching the world.
00:24:24.83\00:24:26.16
I watched 3ABN in
Zimbabwe by the way.
00:24:26.19\00:24:27.83
Wow.
00:24:27.86\00:24:29.20
I watched it in Uganda.
It's going over the world.
00:24:29.23\00:24:30.57
Yes, yes.
00:24:30.60\00:24:31.93
And the power went out,
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the Wi-Fi
should've have gone out,
00:24:33.34\00:24:34.90
the video should've stopped,
00:24:34.94\00:24:36.71
it kept going for
another 40 minutes
00:24:36.74\00:24:38.57
so I could watch
the entire documentary.
00:24:38.61\00:24:40.21
Wow.
00:24:40.24\00:24:41.58
And I know that
was God just saying,
00:24:41.61\00:24:42.94
"Joy, I have this, you know,
00:24:42.98\00:24:45.58
there are other
Adventist ministries like 3ABN,
00:24:45.61\00:24:48.55
I am the wind under their wings
00:24:48.58\00:24:50.39
and I can do it for you
and for firms too as well."
00:24:50.42\00:24:53.12
Yeah, He's showing
and that's so beautiful
00:24:53.15\00:24:56.46
because He's
grabbing a hold of you
00:24:56.49\00:24:58.56
and saying, "You're my daughter
00:24:58.59\00:25:01.16
and I want you
to carry this out.
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I've given this
to you to fulfill."
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Amen.
00:25:05.90\00:25:07.40
So and He's working through you,
00:25:07.44\00:25:09.40
like every time I
come in contact with you,
00:25:09.44\00:25:13.07
whether that's in ASI or GYC
00:25:13.11\00:25:16.85
or whatever the convention is.
00:25:16.88\00:25:18.61
As soon as you start
talking about FARM STEW,
00:25:18.65\00:25:20.95
it's like your
whole face just lights up.
00:25:20.98\00:25:23.59
Well, I love it.
00:25:23.62\00:25:24.95
It's a dream come true
because as a nutritionist,
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and I mean Dr. Fred I
think had the same feeling
00:25:27.19\00:25:29.46
which is why we
are so bonded in this.
00:25:29.49\00:25:31.06
Yes.
00:25:31.09\00:25:32.43
Because as a nutritionist,
you wanted to do something.
00:25:32.46\00:25:34.90
You know that
there's hungry children,
00:25:34.93\00:25:36.87
you know that there's people
00:25:36.90\00:25:38.67
not reaching
their full potential.
00:25:38.70\00:25:40.74
And you wanna do
something so much
00:25:40.77\00:25:42.30
and yet as one person you can't.
00:25:42.34\00:25:44.04
Yes.
00:25:44.07\00:25:45.44
But take the
continent of Africa alone.
00:25:45.47\00:25:47.38
Sub-Saharan Africa,
00:25:47.41\00:25:49.14
we have eight million
Seventh-day Adventist members.
00:25:49.18\00:25:52.58
That's huge.
00:25:52.61\00:25:53.95
Think about the
potentiality of scale.
00:25:53.98\00:25:55.72
If we took this message
00:25:55.75\00:25:57.09
and it can
transform people's lives.
00:25:57.12\00:25:59.05
Even in the refugee camps,
one of the guys with the garden
00:25:59.09\00:26:01.69
that he was speaking
about, Amon, our trainer,
00:26:01.72\00:26:05.29
one of the guys he'd
trained, he said that his garden
00:26:05.33\00:26:07.96
has become evangelistic garden.
00:26:08.00\00:26:09.76
That's awesome.
00:26:09.80\00:26:11.13
He had been trying
to do Bible studies,
00:26:11.17\00:26:12.53
people were not interested,
00:26:12.57\00:26:13.90
now they come to
him, "What's going on?
00:26:13.94\00:26:15.57
Your kids look healthy,
your garden's beautiful,
00:26:15.60\00:26:17.31
what's going on?"
00:26:17.34\00:26:18.67
So it's not just
a physical message,
00:26:18.71\00:26:20.38
although that's
important, Jesus heal people.
00:26:20.41\00:26:23.01
The spiritual
message is going out too.
00:26:23.04\00:26:24.45
Yes.
00:26:24.48\00:26:25.81
And so you guys are
meeting the needs of the people.
00:26:25.85\00:26:28.08
Speaking of meeting the needs,
00:26:28.12\00:26:29.62
what does FARM STEW
need as an organization
00:26:29.65\00:26:33.05
to continue to flourish?
00:26:33.09\00:26:35.36
Well, do you want
to share, Dr. Fred?
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You know, it's very
difficult to go international
00:26:38.83\00:26:44.13
when you're self supporting.
00:26:44.17\00:26:47.74
What we need is
people to help us
00:26:47.77\00:26:51.07
spread this good
news to the people
00:26:51.11\00:26:53.68
who are hurting right now
because they need to be taught,
00:26:53.71\00:26:58.75
they need to be trained.
00:26:58.78\00:27:00.65
We are using the
local people to train them
00:27:00.68\00:27:04.52
because they know their culture,
00:27:04.55\00:27:06.02
they know what they need.
00:27:06.05\00:27:07.56
So it's easier for
them to meet their needs.
00:27:07.59\00:27:10.83
What about monetary needs?
00:27:10.86\00:27:12.56
Yeah, exactly.
00:27:12.59\00:27:13.93
We really... It does cost money.
00:27:13.96\00:27:15.30
We hire people, we
believe in paying people
00:27:15.33\00:27:17.40
a living wage to do this work.
00:27:17.43\00:27:19.27
And we want them
to do it full time
00:27:19.30\00:27:20.67
because this is hard work.
00:27:20.70\00:27:22.57
So we really do need
00:27:22.60\00:27:24.57
your resources and your prayers.
00:27:24.61\00:27:25.94
Amen.
00:27:25.97\00:27:27.31
I wanna put up your address
and how people can support you.
00:27:27.34\00:27:30.88
And why don't you read
that for us really quick?
00:27:30.91\00:27:33.65
Sounds good.
00:27:33.68\00:27:35.02
So we're FARM
STEW International,
00:27:35.05\00:27:36.42
we're PO Box 291,
Princeton, Illinois 61356.
00:27:36.45\00:27:43.26
And you can find us online
00:27:43.29\00:27:44.66
and also donate
online at FarmStew.org.
00:27:44.69\00:27:49.90
And you can also call
00:27:49.93\00:27:51.27
and make a
donation at (434) 409-0866.
00:27:51.30\00:27:55.80
All right.
00:27:55.84\00:27:57.17
Thank you so much.
00:27:57.21\00:27:58.54
I can't believe our
time has escaped us,
00:27:58.57\00:27:59.91
great to have you here.
00:27:59.94\00:28:01.28
Thank you.
00:28:01.31\00:28:02.64
And I'm so glad
that you can join us.
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Until next time, remember,
00:28:04.05\00:28:05.38
it just wouldn't be
the same without you.
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