Stay tuned to meet two people
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whose life is
nothing short of a miracle.
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My name is Jason Bradley,
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and you're
watching Urban Report.
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Hello, and
welcome to Urban Report.
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My guests today are
Pastor David Guerrero
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and he is the
Speaker and Director
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of Rekindle the Flame Ministries
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and Joshua Guerrero,
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he is also the
Speaker and Director
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of Rekindle the
Flame Ministries.
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Welcome to Urban Report, guys.
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Thank you.
Thanks for having us...
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It's great to have you here.
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You know, we go pretty
far back since New York Times.
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Yes.
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Kingston, New York,
Eddyville, New York.
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That's right.
Poughkeepsie, New York.
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That's right.
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And you're no stranger
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to the Dare to
Dream Network or 3ABN.
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But we've got
Joshua here with us today.
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And I want to find
out a little bit about,
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you know, both
of your backgrounds.
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Let's start with
you first, Joshua.
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Sure.
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Well, my name
is Joshua Guerrero,
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and I'm a Speaker/Director
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of Rekindle the
Flame Ministries,
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but my specific task
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is actually to work on
our public university campus,
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University of
Wisconsin-Stevens Point.
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And actually, we had you, Jason,
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just come and
speak to our campus
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about a month ago.
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I'm just helping students
see the reality of the gospel
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and how it transforms lives.
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A lot of
students just add in here,
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a lot of students came
back from that really challenged
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and really
encouraged, even one student
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that's not an Adventist,
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he really is interested
in studies live to Christ,
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and so I'm really...
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Oh, wow!
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I'm really encouraged by
that and I'm just so thankful
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that you came and
shared your testimony with us.
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Oh, praise the Lord.
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Well, I was
thankful for the invitation
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and it was great to see,
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you know, what
you have going on,
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on that campus,
because it's a secular campus.
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Right.
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But yet, you know,
you're trying to reach them
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with the Gospel of Jesus Christ
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and introduce them to Christ.
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So I want to
dive deeper into that
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a little bit
later in the program
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and talk about
what you have going on
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with the public
campus ministries
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and all of that.
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Pastor Guerrero,
you know, in the intro,
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I talked about how you
are two walking miracles.
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Okay.
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I want you to touch on
that, because when I was there
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in Stevens Point,
you shared with me
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a little bit
about your testimony
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and I was blown away.
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Okay.
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In 1990, well, the early '90s,
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1990s I was attending,
while beginning to attend.
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It was in Oakland College
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before it was
Oakland University.
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And I became discouraged
while attending school
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and it was...
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It wasn't anybody's fault.
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It was my response
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to difficulty and
challenges at the school
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that I decided that I
was going to pull away
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from the school.
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And while I was
there in Huntsville,
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I pulled away from the Lord.
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During that experience,
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I decided to remain
there in Huntsville.
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I had a job
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and I was dating
someone I was very fond of,
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and I was just working and
I was kind of enjoying life
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away from God.
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And then things started
to take a turn for the...
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I would say for the worse.
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My job was a
little bit in jeopardy,
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because I was under some stress.
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The person that I was
dating, which I was very fond of
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and we were thinking
about becoming very serious,
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she became...
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Well, she was
unfaithful, that hit me.
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Then, my job situation got
very difficult and challenging,
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and they were
looking at making some shift,
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so I was looking
at losing my job.
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And then I got a phone
call from my stepfather,
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he called me and he said,
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"David, we need
you to come home,
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because it doesn't look like
your mother's gonna make it."
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And he explained to
me that she had cancer.
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Yeah.
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I became overwhelmed
at that time in my life
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and so I decided
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that I was
going to take my life.
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And upon that
news, getting that news,
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I went to the
grocery store, I got about...
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It was a bottle
of aspirins I bought,
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and I took about 100 of them.
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I sat there in the bathroom
and this was intentional.
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Wow!
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I locked the bathroom
door, I put on the shower,
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because I had two roommates
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I said, "If they
come in and they hear."
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Yeah.
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That shower going,
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they'll think
I'm taking a shower.
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And so I slowly just one
by one I took every aspirin.
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Now, they tell me this,
these were my roommates.
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They said, "First, they
thought I was taking a shower."
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They said, "It's
taking too long."
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Yeah.
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And so they got the door open,
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they said, "I was laying there."
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They brought me to the
vehicle, their vehicle,
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rushed me to the hospital.
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And they tell me this,
because I wasn't aware of this.
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They said the doctor said that,
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"If they had
been 30 seconds late
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that I would have lost my life."
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Wow!
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Now, while I
was in the hospital,
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so now I'm there,
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all I recall is that
the doctors were saying
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some things about me and
dying, and I could hear faintly,
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and I remember really
thinking about what I had done.
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And I felt bad about
that and so, I prayed there
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and I said, "Lord you
know, if You would just save me,
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I will give you
the rest of my life.
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I'll surrender my life to you."
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Wow!
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And it was
almost instantaneously
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and I know this
is hard to believe,
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I sensed His power come upon me.
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I sat up
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there in the hospital room,
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I threw up
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and I looked at everyone
there and said, "I'm okay."
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And everyone kinda
looked at me and said, "Huh?"
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I said, "I am
okay," and I was sober.
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I was sober. Wow!
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The doctors left the room,
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they brought some
people to talk to me
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and I said,
"Listen, I'm gonna go home
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because I'm okay, I'm sober."
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They were shocked.
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You know, I attribute
it to the power of God
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that came in that room.
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And I left that evening,
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I walked from that place,
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from the hospital
five miles to my apartment,
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my two roommates looked at me,
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as if they were
looking at a dead man living,
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and they said, "What happened?"
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And I shared with them
what God had done in my life.
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And from that day forward,
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one, I submitted my life to God.
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And it wasn't that I just
jumped into ministry right away
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or just ran the church,
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but I've made a
covenant with the Lord,
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and slowly but
surely God continued
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to work in my life
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after I had
surrendered my life to Him.
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Yes. Brought hope into my life.
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And then I once again
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reinvested my life
into the life of the church,
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became a church elder,
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became a pastor,
and later on in life,
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we would start
Rekindle the Flame Ministries.
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Wow!
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And see that is a
very powerful testimony.
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Were your roommates
in the church, were they?
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None of us were in
the church. No? Okay.
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We all were in the church
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and the three of us had come up,
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you know, we
had left the church.
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How did that
situation impact them?
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Well, you know, I
know that one of them
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from what I remember
recall, came back to the church,
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the other one we
stayed in contact with,
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well, you know, well, I
stayed in contact with him.
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To this day, I can't
recall if he's back in church.
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You know, we stayed
in contact for some time
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and over the years,
we kinda became distant.
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Okay. But I know
the other one did.
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Yes. He did return to church.
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Okay. Yes.
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So then you started
Rekindle the Flame Ministries,
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why the name Rekindle the Flame?
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Well, Rekindle
the Flame Ministries,
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you know, it had a
very interesting start.
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My wife and I,
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and now this is years,
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you know, you go
from that moment,
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God is moving in our lives
and now we start this ministry.
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We began to meet
people in the church
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where we were pastoring
in the area where we were,
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and even some
people in conference office
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and so on and so forth,
who were sharing with us
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very privately that
while they were in church,
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they really didn't have
a relationship with Christ.
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And so we began to
minister to individuals,
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and families, and
we began to help them
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to rekindle that
flame for the Lord.
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Nice.
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And from that moment on,
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it just continued
to grow and grow into,
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you know, where we are today.
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And so we continued to
help people to find Christ
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and rekindle that
flame for the Lord.
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Amen.
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And, Joshua, how
did you get involved
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at Rekindle the Flame?
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Sure. Now, that's good question.
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So I think the first
way, time I got involved was
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kind of in small ways, actually.
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My dad kinda gave me some things
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to do in the ministry,
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just to like, you
know, help with bookkeeping
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or just like, you know,
clean the office or whatever.
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But as I got older, I
really got passionate about
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my local university on
public campus ministries
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and so this is how I
started getting involved
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and then with my dad,
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he kinda coached me
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and helped me kinda get
involved in that process,
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as well as many other
people that kinda got,
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we launched
into that, so, but...
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So, that's how I
kinda jumped into that.
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That's how you jumped in. Yeah.
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And how have you
liked it thus far?
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Okay. Yeah.
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So I kinda use the word
like, I mean, I really love it.
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I mean, so God has really
put this passion in my heart.
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It's really interesting back
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when I was
graduating high school.
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I want to do
something to reach my friends
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that weren't
going to church anymore.
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A lot of my friends
kinda grew from Pathfinder,
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we did a lot of youth programs,
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but most of them
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have stopped going to
church or following Christ.
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And so that really hit me
hard because as a young person,
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I struggle with my faith.
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Yeah.
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And I found Christ to be
everything I was looking for,
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I found that in Christ,
He'll never let you down
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and He always has a
purpose for your life
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than doing your own
desires while they may be
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pleasant for a season,
eventually they run out
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and you're
filled with depression,
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you're filled
with discouragement.
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Yeah.
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So I wanted to do
something to help my generation
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come back to Christ.
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And so... Wow!
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Statistics are right
now that 70% of young people
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have walked away
from Christianity,
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and that's a huge number.
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Wow! Seventy percent?
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Yep, 70%. Wow!
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And so...
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What do you think
that's attributed to?
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Yeah. I think the
main reason has to do...
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Well, two main reasons actually.
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The first one is a personal
relationship with Christ.
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A lot of young people
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is kinda like
cultural Christianity.
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They grew up with it,
but they never actually know
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what it is.
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So once they reached the age
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where they're
kind of independent,
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they're like,
"Well, you know what,
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I want to do my own thing,"
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but that's because they never
found Christ for themselves.
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Yes. They were...
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So it's not real to them.
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Surviving off relationship
that their parents had
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basically the grandparents.
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So they end up going
to colleges and then...
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so that they're spoon fed
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Christianity
when they're younger,
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when they go to
college and they just get
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spoon fed
something else, thinking that
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they're trying
to be independent,
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but really, they
never actually got off the
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spoon feeding process.
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They're just still in it,
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they never become
truly independent.
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Meaning that, true
independence is finding,
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thinking things
through critically
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and finding Christ
for yourself, you know.
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Yes, yes.
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And so,
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that was what I
wanted to kinda get involved
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with those helping young people,
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you know, find out,
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"Okay, how do we
get over this barrier
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of Christianity being
something that's not real?"
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It's more just, you
know, form tradition now.
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Yeah. So became
more experiential.
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Yeah. Yes.
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Experiencing the gospel. Yeah.
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So, yeah.
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Bring it to light.
It's the living word.
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Right. Yeah.
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But still bringing it to life
in the eyes of others, as well.
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So with the
public campus ministries,
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what types of things do you do
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and how do you
reach people on campus?
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Yeah, great question.
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So, a lot of what we do is,
there's three ways we do it,
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spiritual, physical, and mental.
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And so in the spiritual
realm, we do something called
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discussion night
and we do discipleship.
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Physically, we do
outreach in the community,
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doing community
service, Salvation Army,
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and then doing exercise groups.
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Like last semester, we
did like a running group.
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We go running through the trails
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and do 5Ks or whatever.
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That's been really fun. Nice.
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And then also just going hiking,
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see, that's been
really great just like that.
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So you're
impacting the community,
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you're helping the community.
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You guys are
doing positive things
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in the community
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and then you're also
spending time in nature
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and, you know,
drawing closer to God...
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Right, God's second look.
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And that brought us well
and fellowshipping together.
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Yeah.
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And a big thing
for college students
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is community and
so that's one thing
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we really try to foster
at each of those sections,
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so spiritual,
physical, and mental,
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as community and knowing
that there's a group of people
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that care about you.
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And they want to make feel real.
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And so that's what makes
all the difference in the world.
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And, you know, when we
were at the Ministry House,
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you had a group of
people that came out,
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you know, we were
talking, we had snacks.
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I love snacks. Yeah.
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Right, I love snacks.
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So we had
snacks, we were talking.
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And then this young
lady started to open up
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and shared about her life.
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Yes. That was a powerful time.
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And she really, she
was very transparent.
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And I think that
that is important.
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It was like a safe space.
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You know, and I
think that's important,
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especially for, you
know, the college age students,
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they want to feel like
they're in a safe space,
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so where they can share,
and open up, and be vulnerable.
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And, you know, you provide them
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with the gospel.
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Right.
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And so yeah, that was
a tremendous blessing.
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We actually...
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Yes, it was.
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We actually have some
pictures that I want to,
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you know, put up
and just tell us briefly
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what's going on in
each one of these picture.
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Sure. Okay.
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So this picture right here,
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we're actually at
one of the nursing homes
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and we're just
kinda volunteering,
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just helping the residency
on the Spirit of Christmas
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and just helping them
really get closer to Christ.
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So that's my sister,
Holly and Hunter there so,
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that was a lot of fun,
we really enjoy just...
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So that's the gospel in action.
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Yeah, really. That's what it is.
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Oh!
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This picture here is
Josh Gale, me, and my sister.
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Right there, we're
setting up for Involvement Fair.
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And The Involvement
Fair is a chance for us to
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get the word out
about our club on campus
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and get to meet new students,
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kinda like a community
fair, so that was a lot of fun.
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All right, yeah.
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That's our annual
Father/Daughter Retreat
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in northern Wisconsin,
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where we have fathers
and daughters come together.
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And I share messages on
how to have an effective
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relationship with,
you know, your daughters
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and then also encouraging
the daughters to live
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in a vibrant
lives for Jesus Christ.
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Wonderful retreat.
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Yeah, this
actually this picture here,
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this when Jason came a month ago
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onto our campus and
we're just setting up
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the booth
outside of the theater,
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just kinda getting
ready for students to come.
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That was a really fun time,
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just working together as a team.
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There he is. There
is Jason right there.
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So right in Campus University
of Wisconsin-Stevens Point
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so...
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That was a great time, Jason.
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Yeah, that one was a great time.
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What's going on in this picture?
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Yeah, so that's
four of us helping out
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at The Salvation Army.
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And we're serving people
that are either homeless,
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you know, they're on drugs,
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and you know, they're
really down in their own life,
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but we get the chance
to kinda serve them a meal.
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So this Sabbath
afternoon I think so.
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Nice. So practical Christianity.
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Yes.
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It was wonderful and
nice to be at Stevens Point.
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I felt kind of
like a professor though
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I wasn't kind of
persona, different but...
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Sure. But yeah, I had the...
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Professor for 15 minutes, right?
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Yeah, that's
right. That's right.
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Okay, so tell me
a little bit about
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Rekindle the Flame Ministries
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from your side of
things, Pastor Guerrero.
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Okay, that's a good question.
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You know, Rekindle
the Flame Ministries
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is a Christ's methods ministry.
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Where we seek to meet
people's needs practically,
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we also offer
Christian counseling,
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life coaching,
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marriage coaching,
health and wellness coaching,
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leadership
coaching, coaching excuse me,
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and also life changing seminars.
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Wow!
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And we focus on the community
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and reaching the community.
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And then we also come
alongside the churches
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and help them work through
kind of like a discipleship
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process of showing them
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how to make
disciples for Jesus Christ.
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That's the objective is to make
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followers of Christ
and make them disciple,
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so they can go and
then make other disciples.
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And so we do that
on a regular basis.
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I'll give you one
example, just the other day,
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we had an
organization call our ministry
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and asked that if we
could go into a place
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where this gentleman
who didn't know English
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and I know Spanish,
and he spoke Spanish.
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If I could translate
and get an understanding
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of what was
happening in his life.
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We setup the
appointment, I went to the home,
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I was able to
understand the gentleman
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and share what he
really was needing.
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He was able to
talk to his sister
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for the first time
in almost 18 months
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because no one
could understand it...
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And he said, all he
wants to do is call his sister.
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And so I got on the
phone. I said, hi to sister.
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I talked to her in Spanish.
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And, you know,
she started to cry
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when I said, "You know,
have your brother on the line."
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And they were kind of
reunited on the phone.
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And now we're
building relationship,
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you know, with him.
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I've connected him
with some of the...
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While I'm gonna be
connecting with him this week
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or this happened last week
with the Spanish church there,
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they're gonna
build the relationship.
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And now we introduce
him to our special message.
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Nice. So that's what we do.
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And so tell me
about Christ's method.
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Because I know
that you implement that
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in reaching people.
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So tell us
about Christ's method,
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maybe there's somebody
out there that doesn't know
00:18:00.74\00:18:02.28
what Christ's
method is, break that down?
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Yeah, you know, in
Ministry of Healing,
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page 145, she says,
00:18:06.41\00:18:08.05
"Christ's method alone
will give us true success."
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You know, the Savior mingled
with people as one who...
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He had his best interest
and so He desired the best.
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And so He met their needs,
He showed sympathy to them
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and compassion.
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He won their
confidence and he said,
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"Come and follow Me."
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That's Christ's method. Nice.
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And so our method
is the same thing,
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is that we get a sense of
what are the needs in society
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or in the community,
00:18:32.84\00:18:34.18
they may be at
the campus ministry,
00:18:34.21\00:18:38.38
maybe that they
need life coaching,
00:18:38.41\00:18:39.75
or Christian counseling.
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They may need food or just
someone to pay them a visit.
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And so we meet those needs
00:18:45.09\00:18:46.89
and we win their confidence,
00:18:46.96\00:18:48.29
we show them sympathy,
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and then we invite
them to follow the Savior.
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Amen. Amen.
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Now I see the
passion that's in Joshua,
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for spreading the gospel.
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What type of lessons did
you instill in your children
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as they were growing up?
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That's a good question.
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First, I want to say is
that, "No family is perfect."
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And so I have flaws.
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And I think my wife and
children will be the first
00:19:08.74\00:19:10.98
to say, "Yes, he does."
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You know, I think that
my children, first of all,
00:19:15.45\00:19:18.35
is that you have to
live what you're preaching,
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and even when you make mistakes,
00:19:21.82\00:19:23.86
be able to come to your family,
come to your children say,
00:19:23.89\00:19:26.73
"That was wrong,
please forgive me.
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I should have never done that."
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Yeah.
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But the thing that we have
00:19:31.43\00:19:32.77
instilled with
them is one service.
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That we're here as
an instrument of God
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to serve others
and not ourselves.
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Two, within our home,
00:19:39.91\00:19:41.24
you know, we have
morning and evening worship.
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And it's not just worship,
00:19:46.48\00:19:47.82
you know, we come
and we talk about God
00:19:47.85\00:19:49.85
and we begin to share the things
00:19:49.88\00:19:51.99
that are happening in our lives,
00:19:52.02\00:19:53.49
that we were having victory
00:19:53.56\00:19:55.76
or that we were
having struggles,
00:19:55.79\00:19:57.23
and then we turn to
the Word of God and we say,
00:19:57.26\00:19:58.89
"Well, what does God
00:19:58.93\00:20:00.30
have to say
about this to help us."
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Yes.
00:20:01.66\00:20:04.53
You know, we have
an open door policy.
00:20:04.57\00:20:07.00
And there're two
things that we do there.
00:20:07.04\00:20:10.01
Every Monday, you know,
you will find on my smartphone,
00:20:10.07\00:20:13.74
you know, it reminds
me that Monday evening
00:20:13.78\00:20:16.95
at around 6 o'clock that I
have an appointment and I rotate
00:20:17.01\00:20:20.68
and I go through my children,
00:20:20.72\00:20:22.28
you know, each Monday evening
where we spend time together,
00:20:22.32\00:20:24.79
just talking about life
00:20:24.82\00:20:26.15
and just sharing
with one another,
00:20:26.19\00:20:27.92
what's happening, the
victories they were having,
00:20:27.96\00:20:29.92
you know, and the things
they were struggling with,
00:20:29.99\00:20:31.49
and we pray for one another.
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And that's a decidedly process.
00:20:32.93\00:20:35.83
And then we have and my
wife is brilliant at this.
00:20:35.86\00:20:38.23
She has talk time,
and I'm often there,
00:20:38.27\00:20:40.57
but not all the time
because of my schedule.
00:20:40.60\00:20:42.34
Talk time where we
meet with our children
00:20:42.37\00:20:45.27
and they have that
hour to just share with us
00:20:45.31\00:20:48.28
what's going on in their lives,
00:20:48.31\00:20:49.98
and the things that
they're struggling with,
00:20:50.01\00:20:53.21
or maybe some things
that they need help with,
00:20:53.25\00:20:55.25
and so we come up with a
plan to help them live the life
00:20:55.28\00:21:01.16
of a vibrant Christian.
00:21:01.19\00:21:02.52
Wow!
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Those are some of
the things that we do.
00:21:03.96\00:21:05.29
Yeah. That was excellent.
00:21:05.33\00:21:07.10
And I can see that it's
made an impact in Joshua's life.
00:21:07.13\00:21:10.57
You also wrote a book and
what's your book entitled?
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Yes, there's a
book that I've written,
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it has been out
since about 2000.
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Now, I try to remember
the date, seven or nine.
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It's called,
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"Fatherhood,
Reclaiming Your God-Given Role."
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And basically,
it outlines for men
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how to be a biblical father.
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It talks about the
father as priest of the home,
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you know, the father as prophet,
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meaning that he
proclaims the word,
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and then the father as king,
not as a tyrannical leader,
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but as a serving leader.
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And then it shares how to have
a relationship with your wife,
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and how to have
relationship with your children,
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and how to have
relationship in the community.
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Then, the last chapter shares
with the father and/or men,
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because this is a
book for men as well,
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you know, how to start building
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taking the steps
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to become a much more
effective Christian man
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and a much more
effective Christian father.
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And sometimes I host seminars
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and conferences
on that very topic.
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Oh, wow! Yes.
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So if somebody wanted to
say they want to book you
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for a seminar, how do
they go about doing that?
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They can call
us at 715-310-2196.
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Okay. Or they can
go to our website.
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Okay. What's your website?
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Our website is
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www.rekindletheflameministries
.org
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And also we do
Christian coaching
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and actually
we're in the process
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of building a
network of Christian coaches,
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training them
and certifying them,
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because I'm a
Christian coach trainer,
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and they can go to
adventistchristiancoaching.com
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Okay.
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And they can find out
a lot about of what we do
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and how we
network with other people,
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we train and disciple others,
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so they can
implement Christ's method alone
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which will give
them true success.
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And we feel that
gives anybody true success
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as they follow Christ's method.
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Amen.
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And, Joshua,
what's next with you
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or for you with
campus ministries?
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Yeah, great question.
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So right now
we're in the process
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of really establishing a
center on campus where we are.
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We've had a house we're renting
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across the
street from university
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for about a year or so.
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And just like you
said, it's really safe space
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like we had when you were
there just to have people come.
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Yes.
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And share their
story, fellowship with us
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get to know us better,
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and worship God, it's
really been a blessing.
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So we're just asking
God and just praying, like,
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"What He wants
to do next with it
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and how we can make it
more of a sustainable thing
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and make it more established."
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Yes.
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And so, right now we're
just really praying as a team,
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how we can do that.
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And so that's the biggest,
I think, thing next for us.
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I got you. I got you.
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And Joshua has been
an inspiration to me,
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because when he
first started this,
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one of the
questions I asked him,
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I said, "Well, how are
we going to fund this?"
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And he said, "Dad, you know,
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like you've taught
me this, it's by faith."
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Amen.
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And so each month
the Lord does provide
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the financial means...
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For needs. Yes.
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To take care of
that campus house.
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Yeah. And so God
does amazing things.
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And so he has been
an encouragement to me
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as he stepped out
in faith and said,
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"God will provide
each and every month
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for this ministry."
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Yes.
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And speaking of that provision,
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what are some of
your needs as a ministry?
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Well, the first
need is prayer. Yes.
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You know, like, we
always need prayer.
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You know, the second is
with the campus ministries.
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You know, it does cost,
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you know, to rent the house
and to get the materials there.
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And then we have our monthly,
you know, functioning well,
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yes, our operational
needs for the honorariums
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and the traveling.
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And when we have
people on a regular basis
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come to our home, and we meet
their needs to the resources
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of what we have there.
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And it happens because
people support the ministry,
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so we're able to
feed them, we're able to,
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you know, to do
things on our 22 acres.
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Just recently, we
put together a plan
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because a lady in our
community lost her husband
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and she needed
to replace her roof.
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And so we said, "You know what?
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Our ministry is
going to come behind her."
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And we made a
cry and a call for,
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you know, assistance and help.
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And we just
helped that individual,
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so that they can get
their life back in order,
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but they can get the Christian
support that they need.
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And that opens just
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tremendous doors
for reaching them.
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Yeah.
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Because when you
reach their heart
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and then you
introduce them to the God
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who's able to supply
for all of our needs,
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according to His
riches and glory.
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Amen. So you're
meeting their needs.
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This is practical Christianity,
practical Christianity.
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Amen.
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What's the
testimonial that you have?
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Maybe one, we're short on time,
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but one testimony
that you may have,
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how somebody has
been impacted besides
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the individual whose
roof you helped with?
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Well, you know, it goes back to
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and I mentioned it
in brief just earlier.
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Was getting that call
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and this was just the other day,
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you know the gentleman
here he is in the community.
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People there and I believe
it was by divine providence.
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I couldn't understand him.
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Someone there say,
"Hey, you know what,
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I know a pastor,
I know a ministry,
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that this is what they do.
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They come into a
situation, and they'll help,"
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and then we getting the
call, and just going there,
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and just listening,
listening to his story,
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encouraging him,
but most importantly,
00:26:36.39\00:26:39.19
connecting him one
with his family once again,
00:26:39.23\00:26:42.56
and then having the
opportunity to talk about Christ
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and connecting him to Christ,
and then saying, "Can I return?
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And can we together,
journey together as friends
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have a deeper
relationship with Christ?"
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And he said, "Yes."
00:26:54.38\00:26:55.71
He said, "Come,
please come back."
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And he said, "I haven't
been to church in a long time.
00:26:57.41\00:27:01.08
He said, "I am a Pentecostal."
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And I said, "Hey,
God loves us all, right?
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He loves Adventists
or Pentecostals, he,
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you know, he does.
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You know, we're
all God's children."
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And for him to say,
"Yes, let's continue
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to build this relationship
and grow in Christ together."
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And I know that
overtime, that God is gonna do
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what He does best,
bring people closer to Him,
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but also bring them to
those distinctive truths
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that we have
for the world today.
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So he may embrace the
Adventist message one day.
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Yeah. Yes, yes.
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And so that's amazing.
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You know, to sit here
and look at a father and son
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in ministry
together on fire for the Lord
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and reaching people
in very practical ways
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and
implementing Christ's method,
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that's something you don't
really get to see very often.
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To God be the glory
and I look back some time
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and I say, "You know what,
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this could have only
been to the God's grace
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and His power."
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Amen. Well, thank
you for joining us.
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And thank you.
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Until next time, God bless.
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