There are many ways
to share the gospel.
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Stay tuned to meet a young woman
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who's putting her cyber gifts
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and talents to
great use for the kingdom.
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My name is Yvonne Lewis-Shelton,
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and you're
watching Urban Report.
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Hello and
welcome to Urban Report.
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My guest today is Felecia Datus,
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Special Projects manager
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at the Center for
Online Evangelism.
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Welcome to
Urban Report, my dear.
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Dr. Yvonne, I'm glad to be here.
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Oh, we're so
glad to have you here.
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It's like having you come home.
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Yeah, it's been a
while since I was at 3ABN,
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so it is like coming
home in a different role.
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Yes, yes, yes.
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And you've been
doing some amazing things.
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But before we get into that,
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I just want our
viewers to kind of know
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who you are and what
your journey has been.
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So where are you from? Oh, wow.
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I am originally
from the Bahamas.
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I was born and raised there.
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My family is from Haiti.
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So born Bahamas, I
studied in Jamaica.
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So I did my
undergraduate studies
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at the Northern
Caribbean University.
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From there, I spent some
time in France teaching English,
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then I returned
back to the Bahamas
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working in radio,
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and then I went
to Andrews University
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for three years, and
that is where I am now.
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Wow, wow.
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And how did you
come to know the Lord?
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Have you always
been a Christian?
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Or how did you come
to know about the Lord?
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You know, I was born
in an Adventist home,
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you know, going to
church every single Sabbath
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with a family having worship,
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but there just comes a point
where it gets really personal.
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And that personal for me started
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when I was eight years old.
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There was an appeal at church,
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and my mom was like,
"Go, and get baptized."
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I was like, you know,
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she's going to
chuckle at this bar,
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but she said, "Go
up and get baptized."
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I was eight years old.
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I had no idea what that meant.
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And I went up, and my
mom actually followed me up
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and she said that she
wanted me to be baptized,
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but not tonight
because I had a cold.
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And usher actually
said, "You know what?
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She'll be baptized,
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and after she
comes out of the pool,
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she won't have a cold anymore."
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I was baptized, I got
up, there was no cold.
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And it was then that I realized,
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you know, there must
be something to everything
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that we have been doing.
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So as an eight year old,
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that's where it started
to get more personal for me.
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And, you know, with
the journey of Christ,
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there's there is
that conversion moment,
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but every day
there's something new
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that you're learning.
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And so you're growing.
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So I wouldn't say there
was one particular moment
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that it really got personal,
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but it's a
continual journey for me.
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And that's what got me here.
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That's awesome.
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So really, from
the age of eight,
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your life kind of took,
even though you were already,
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you know, worshiping
on Sabbath and going to,
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and in a
Christian home, you still,
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you didn't know
what you knew later.
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Precisely, precisely.
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And even as I became a teenager,
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you know, you start questioning
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a lot of the things that you do,
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why do I have to got
to church on Saturday?
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All my friends are
having fun on this day,
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and I don't do what they do.
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Why is that?
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And there comes a point
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where you have to
make that decision
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personally in your own mind
as to why you do what you do
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because at the end of the
day, because mommy told me so,
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because daddy told
me so won't cut it.
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That's right.
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You get to college,
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and you have to
stand on your own two feet,
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by the grace of God.
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And so it was those moments
especially in high school,
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getting more
experience in the world
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in terms of what
my friends were doing,
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and asking myself,
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why don't I do these things
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and getting more
personal with Christ,
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that was definitely
other things that...
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They play a role in
helping me to get where I am
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in my relationship with God.
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Yes, amen, amen.
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And so you are a
millennial, right?
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So what kinds of challenges
do you have as a millennial
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and being a Christian?
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What kinds of
challenges do you have?
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Oh, wow, I would say
it's an awesome question.
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The main thing is how
to be culturally relevant
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without compromising principle.
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Unpack that for us?
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You know, how do I go
online and still relate
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to what my other
friends are talking about,
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who may not know the Lord,
who have some serious concerns,
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but at the same
time be relevant to them,
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you know, will I always
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just throw out a
Bible verse for my post
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or a Spirit of Prophecy quote
that they won't understand?
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Or will I find a
way to reach them
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where they are
to learn from them.
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And for me,
also, to offer myself
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so that they can
learn about my experience
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with the Lord Jesus,
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so to be able to relate to them,
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but at the same time,
have my stance on God's Word.
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That could be a challenge.
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So that's something
that I have been learning,
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and that the Holy
Spirit is teaching me to do.
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You know, you don't want to seem
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as a holier than thou person,
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but you still want to be
able to relate to your friends
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who may not know the Lord.
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Oh, that's such a good answer.
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And that seems to me to
be such a relevant issue.
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Because you don't want
to be holier than thou,
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but you also have
to have your standard,
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and you have to
have your witness.
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Right.
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And so that's what
the Lord's led you to do.
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Yeah, and He
calls us to be peculiar.
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He calls us to be
special, we are consecrated,
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we are holy,
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but He still tells us
that we are in the world
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and we're supposed to be
enlightened in this world.
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That's right. In
it, but not of it.
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Right. Right?
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Precisely.
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So you got into doing
things with the computer,
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that's one of your gifts,
how did you get into that?
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So, you know,
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that credit
obviously goes to God,
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but I would definitely
have to say to Ed Widener
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and Dave Sharpe,
they are the ones...
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Well, Ed
Widener, a few years ago,
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found out that
the Adventist Church
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needed to have a
stronger presence online.
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And so he decided
to start this ministry,
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Center for Online Evangelism,
and he began to recruit people.
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So he, and Dave,
and the rest of the team
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are training other people
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so that we can train
others to get them involved
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in online evangelism.
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And basically, that is,
how do we spread the gospel
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using our gadgets.
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We're connected to it. Yes.
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Whether it's through our watch,
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or on our
phones, or on our tablet,
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anywhere we go,
we have this with us.
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And Jesus
specifically told us to go
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and make disciples to
the ends of the world.
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We may not be able
to jump on a plane,
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we may not be able
to go certain places,
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but just using this
gadget, we have the capability
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by the grace of
God to reach thousands,
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if not hundreds of thousands
of people for the gospel.
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And so whether
it's my Facebook posts
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or whether it's
creating a YouTube channel,
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whether it's a
podcast, whether it's a blog,
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I'm trying to
learn, how do I do that,
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and also training
other people to do that.
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And also through
search engine optimization,
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that's something else
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that the Center for
Online Evangelism does,
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and trains people to
do because a lot of people
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are searching for the truth.
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They want to
know more about God,
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they want to know
more about the Bible,
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they want to know
about the Sabbath,
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they want to know
about these precious truths
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that sometimes
we take for granted.
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And they're searching for it.
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But unfortunately, we
don't have that presence.
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And so we're saying,
"Listen, this is so important,
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people are already searching,
so let's optimize our websites,
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let's create more content
so that they can find out
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more about who we are,
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and they can definitely
find out most importantly,
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who Jesus is."
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Oh, that's wonderful.
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So the Center
for Online Evangelism
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then is training
other people to do
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search engine
optimization, and all of that?
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Yes.
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And that's just one
facet of what we do.
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So we do provide that training,
we provide the resources.
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Recently, one of
our workers Amy Prindle
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created a manual teaching people
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how to do search
engine optimization.
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We have a newsletter
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that goes out every single week,
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and we says the best practices,
sometimes you would spend
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thousands of dollars to
go out there and learn it.
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We're offering
this to you for free,
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because this has
an eternal weight.
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And if you can
put this to practice
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as a communication
director at your church
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or as a ministry leader,
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you have the capability
of reaching more people.
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So providing resources,
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providing the
training on social media,
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providing the tips for
people to just learn about this.
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Those are just a
few things that we do.
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So how long has the Center
for Online Evangelism existed?
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How long has it
been in existence?
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So Ed Widener
founded it in 2012.
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And since then,
it has been growing,
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you know, every year
there are challenges.
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That's the thing with
digital, with anything digital,
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the algorithms,
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I don't want to
use technical terms,
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but things are
always changing online.
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So every year
we've been growing,
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we've been
readjusting what we do,
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but what we do still
has remained the same
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throughout the years.
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So from 2012 up to now,
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our main mission is
to provide the services
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and provide the
training so since 2012.
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Since 2012, so...
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Wow, so and how long
have you been with them?
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So just the last year.
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And again, it's
just been so amazing
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how God brings
everything that we do together
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because I had just graduated
and I wanted a dream job.
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And there was one particular job
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that I wanted so much,
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I said, "God, if You
could just provide this job,
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I will be so happy."
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It didn't work out.
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I was heartbroken.
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I was heartbroken.
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Then I went to a conference,
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Society for
Adventist Communicators,
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and I met Ed Widener there.
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And we were just
having a conversation
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that I thought was
just a casual conversation.
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God always, however,
has something else in mind.
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And a few days later, I
started working with a Center
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for Online Evangelism.
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At that time,
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I wasn't being very intentional
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about my own
personal online evangelism,
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but I did recognize that I
have to learn to use Facebook
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or YouTube to
share the gospel more.
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But it was when I really
started to work with them,
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October 2017, that I
became more intentional.
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So it's been a
little over a year
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at the time of this recording.
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That's awesome.
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Isn't that amazing how,
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you know, we think we want this?
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Right.
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And we're like, wow,
why didn't I get this?
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Right.
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God has something
better. He has something better.
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He always.
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I remember, in my own life,
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I remember I was going through
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a really, really difficult time,
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and I was looking
for a place to live.
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And I saw this
place and I thought,
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"Wow, this would be perfect."
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Like, "Lord, please
let me get this place."
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And it looked like
it was going to happen,
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and then at last
minute it fell through.
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And I was devastated
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because I didn't know
what I was going to do.
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And it turns out
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that the Lord had
the same floor plan
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available at half the
price in a different place.
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And so if we just trust God,
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He's going to work it out.
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Yes, and that's how it works.
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Even with digital
evangelism, we always think,
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well, maybe this is the way
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that we should share the gospel.
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And God says,
"Yeah, that will work.
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But I have an even better plan."
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Like, you're thinking
that we're all going to walk
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throughout the ends of the world
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to share the gospel.
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He says, "You know what?
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I'm going to make this a
little bit easier for you.
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I'm still going to provide
My power and My strength,
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but take your phone and
start sharing the gospel.
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So God always works
outside of our thinking,
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and always gives us
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something better than we expect.
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Always.
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Something
better, always, always.
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So explain how this works.
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So someone comes,
someone contacts you,
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first of all, I guess
they have to be techno savvy.
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So I obviously
would never be calling,
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no, not for that.
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So they call the
Center for Online Evangelism,
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and is it an
online course, what is it?
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Okay, so there
are several things.
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And no, someone does
not have to be techno savvy.
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If you just know
how to dial a number
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or if you know
how to send an email,
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you can get in touch with us.
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And there are
several things that we do.
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So we do have a training course,
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and that's coming up.
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And as that
develops, and it's available,
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we make that
announcement on our website.
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But let's say for example,
you are a church pastor,
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and you want to get your members
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more involved in evangelism.
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And you also want
your website to be found
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by persons in your community.
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So there are two
things that you can do.
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One, you can invite
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the Center for Online Evangelism
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to come and to do a training.
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In that training,
we train church members
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how to use social
media, how to use websites,
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how to use YouTube
to spread the gospel
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and create more content online.
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And how long is this training?
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Is it weekend?
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It could be for
Sabbath afternoon,
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it could be for three
days, it's Friday evening,
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Sabbath or Sunday morning.
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So it's however the
church wants to work,
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we work along with you.
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And so when church
members and leaders
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are creating more content,
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what happens is that
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when someone
searches for Adventist
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or when they search
to know more about Jesus
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or the Bible is the content
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that we are
creating that will appear.
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But the other
thing that we do is
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search engine optimization.
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We do offer that service
for churches, and ministries,
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and schools.
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But then we also
provide the resources
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so that you can
learn how to do it
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because you can create a
whole bunch of great content.
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But if people
can't find that content,
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then it's almost worth,
you know, it's almost in vain.
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Absolutely. Yeah.
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Absolutely.
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And you want that content
to be up as high as it can get.
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To rank on number one on Google
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because when you search
for something on Google,
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there are only 10 slots.
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And statistics show
that people rarely go
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to the second page of Google.
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So you have a few seconds
to catch people's attention
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to rank number
one or two or three,
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we want to be number
one, our training churches,
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this is the things
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that you need to do to
have that number one spot
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because people are
searching for the truth,
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but they're not finding it.
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I remember this.
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There was an
incident when after church,
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I was invited to a potluck.
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And I went to a house
and there were strangers,
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I just opened the door,
and there were strangers there
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and are docking charging at me.
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I was like, "Oh, my
goodness, what happened?"
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Someone came up to the door.
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I said, "I'm supposed
to be here for dinner."
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I had the wrong address,
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you know, our
finding does sometimes,
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a lot of times,
that's what's happening,
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that people are
searching for the truth online,
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but they don't
know how to find us.
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You know, so the
dinner was elsewhere,
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but the person had
given me the wrong address.
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Yes.
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And so what search
engine optimization,
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online evangelism,
and everything that we do,
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the training and the
resources that we offer
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is training
people how to give those
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who are searching for the truth,
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the right address
to find our content
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because we don't want them
to end up lost on the internet.
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Absolutely, this is
such a valuable service.
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I mean, you going into
churches and showing people
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even people like me,
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who are totally
not techno savvy,
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you know, how to do it.
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And like you
said, at the beginning,
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we are all pretty much
attached to our gadgets...
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Right, precisely.
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Phones, and pads, and
computers, and all that.
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Right. And maybe
you enjoy writing.
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So you may not
want to be able to...
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You may not want to
talk to someone face-to-face.
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But perhaps the Holy Spirit
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could use your gift of
writing to start a blog,
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a blog where you show
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what Christ has
been doing to you
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or maybe you relate
specifically to issues
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that deal with women, and
you relate that to gospel,
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start a blog,
maybe you love talking,
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start a podcast for ministry,
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maybe you love being
in front of the camera,
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you don't need to wait
for Urban Report to call you
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or to be on 3ABN,
you could use your phone,
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you prop it up,
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and you can start
a YouTube channel.
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Maybe you already
have a Facebook page,
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you can use Facebook
Live, you can share posts,
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maybe you want to
give online Bible studies.
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Just using your
laptop or Skype or Zoom,
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you can connect with
people all over the world,
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right there in your
living room or in your bedroom,
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and you can share
precious truths with them.
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So we're saying
allow the Holy Spirit
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to be creative
through you, share the gospel.
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So when people are
searching for Christ,
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they will find that content.
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When they're searching to
know about who are Adventist?
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That is the great
content that they will find.
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That's
incredible. That's incredible.
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So you are going to wherever
the Holy Spirit sends you.
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If someone calls and says,
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"Hey, we would love
for your team to come
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or someone from your
team to come to our church."
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Do they absorb the
cost for bringing you,
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how will that work?
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You know, every time I
go to answer this question,
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I always look at the
example of Paul in the Bible.
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He was willing to go wherever
the Holy Spirit led him.
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But he also
realized that the Holy Spirit
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wanted to use the other people
to be a part of the ministry,
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and they were
part of the ministry
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by helping Paul
to absorb that cost.
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You know, they paid
so that he can come in,
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so that he was free to
be able to do the work.
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So we do ask
churches, we do say to churches,
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"Yes, we're willing to come in.
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We're definitely
not charging the prices
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that the world charges."
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People are
spending millions of dollars
00:17:04.05\00:17:05.39
to learn about SEO,
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thousands of dollars to
optimize their websites.
00:17:06.82\00:17:08.89
We're saying we're
offering this content,
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you bring us in
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because you're
supporting this work,
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you're supporting this ministry,
00:17:13.29\00:17:14.63
and you're helping us to create
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more free resources to
be available to everyone.
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Good. So they bring you in?
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Yes. And then
you do the teaching?
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Yes.
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Do you have resources
that that they purchase?
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Or do you have resources
that you just pass out.
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So the resources are free.
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For example, if you
sign up to my newsletter,
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every single week,
you receive a blog post
00:17:34.02\00:17:36.65
about best practices
00:17:36.69\00:17:38.35
that you can apply
to your church website
00:17:38.39\00:17:40.62
or to your ministry website
00:17:40.66\00:17:41.99
or to your
platform to optimize that.
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We have a manual
that one of our workers,
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Amy, beautifully designed,
00:17:45.76\00:17:47.70
we made that available for free,
00:17:47.73\00:17:49.36
you subscribe, and
we give that to you.
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The website has lots
of content, lots of blogs,
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we have our Facebook page,
00:17:53.90\00:17:55.67
we're creating
more videos on YouTube.
00:17:55.70\00:17:58.31
We have webinars
on our Facebook page
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to make all that available.
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But sometimes you want
that hands-on training,
00:18:02.24\00:18:04.31
how to be
practical, how to do it,
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and so we come into churches
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and we train
people how to do it.
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That is so awesome.
What's the age range?
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Do you have an age range,
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like how young and how
old or can anybody just come?
00:18:13.46\00:18:17.29
You know, anyone who has
00:18:17.33\00:18:20.73
the willingness
to share the gospel
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can get involved
in digital evangelism.
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You know, even if you
want to get a child involved
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because children know
how to operate these things,
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sometimes more
than we then we do.
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There's a
gentleman who's in his 80s
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who conducts
online Bible studies.
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So it's really
anyone who is willing.
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If you don't have
social media, that's fine.
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You have your phone
or you have WhatsApp.
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You can do
evangelism through that.
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Neville Neveling,
00:18:43.89\00:18:46.79
he is a part of
Adventist World Radio
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is known for having started
churches through WhatsApp.
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I mean, just using a phone
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and we wouldn't
think of it sometimes.
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But there are people
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who literally can't
get to a physical church,
00:18:57.60\00:18:59.73
so they attend
church on their phone.
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So anyone who has a gadget,
who has access to the internet,
00:19:01.57\00:19:04.14
who is willing and who wants
the Holy Spirit to use them,
00:19:04.17\00:19:07.48
you can be a part of it.
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That's incredible.
What's your website address?
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So you can find
out more information
00:19:11.05\00:19:12.58
CenterforOnlineEvangelism.org,
00:19:12.61\00:19:15.78
and there you can find
out how to get involved,
00:19:15.82\00:19:17.45
how to donate, how
to support the ministry,
00:19:17.49\00:19:19.45
and find out more
about Project Caleb,
00:19:19.49\00:19:21.29
the initiative
00:19:21.32\00:19:22.82
where we aim to promote
more Adventist presence online.
00:19:22.86\00:19:27.40
Let's talk about
that, Project Caleb,
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how did that come
into being, and what is it?
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So again, it's linked
to the mission of Center
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for Online Evangelism.
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And its main initiative is
that whenever someone searches
00:19:37.97\00:19:41.34
and they want to know
more about who Adventists are,
00:19:41.38\00:19:44.21
who are these people?
00:19:44.25\00:19:45.58
What do they
believe? What do they teach?
00:19:45.61\00:19:47.45
Sometimes we may hear
something from one person
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or hear something
from another person.
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But we have to be
able to tell that story.
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And we see we know the story
00:19:53.76\00:19:55.46
of Caleb and
Joshua in the Bible,
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where they were going to
conquer the Promised Land,
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but it was all
around with enemies.
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It was filled with giants,
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you know, God didn't just
give them the land, He said,
00:20:02.30\00:20:04.80
"You're going to
have to fight for this,
00:20:04.83\00:20:06.33
but I give you My presence
and I give you My power."
00:20:06.37\00:20:08.74
So we see online and
Google as that Promised Land.
00:20:08.77\00:20:12.24
And there are giants there.
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There are some
negative things on there,
00:20:13.64\00:20:15.61
but God says I
will give you the power
00:20:15.64\00:20:17.55
so that this truth that
you have can be more prominent.
00:20:17.58\00:20:20.85
You can take over
this Promised Land,
00:20:20.88\00:20:22.85
so all of the other nations,
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all the other people
are searching for truth
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will come and find the gospel.
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And so that's the
gist of project Caleb.
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And we want everyone involved.
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You know,
everyone can do something,
00:20:32.83\00:20:34.16
whether you're
helping to create content,
00:20:34.20\00:20:35.53
whether you're financially
supporting, or you're praying,
00:20:35.56\00:20:37.97
or you're sharing
that message, we can...
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Through Project Caleb,
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people will learn more
about who Adventists are,
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they will learn
more about Ellen White,
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and definitely above all,
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they will learn
more about Jesus Christ.
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That is so important.
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What you're
doing is so important.
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This is a whole other way
to reach millions of people.
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You know, when
you watch YouTube.
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And you look at YouTube,
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and you see that this
one video has gone viral.
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And millions of
people are watching.
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Why can't that be the gospel?
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Precisely, precisely.
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Why can't it.
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That's what you
guys are doing. Yeah.
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It's incredible.
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Well, you can bring 2000 people,
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maybe a church
can hold 2000 people,
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but typically you can
bring 2000 or even 50,000 people
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or 250,000
people into your church.
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But you can produce a video,
I get millions of views on it.
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That's how the gospel works.
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We have a power that the
early church did not have.
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If Paul the Apostle, if
Peter, if they had gadgets,
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they would use Snapchat,
Facebook, YouTube, Twitter,
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Instagram,
everything to share the gospel.
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Yes.
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And we have it but
we're not using it.
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And so we're
saying, "Hey, use it."
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Yes, yes, and this is how.
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Precisely.
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And this is how.
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So tell us about
some of the people
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who have been
trained through the Center
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for Online Evangelism
and what they're doing?
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So recently with
the church online,
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the church training.
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So that started when I joined
Center for Online Evangelism
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a few months ago.
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So we're just
getting that program started.
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And so the last two
workshops that we had,
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there was a couple who express,
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we've always been wanting
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to start a blog
or start a podcast,
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we just didn't know what to do.
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As a result of that training,
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now they're
connected with the resources
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to help them to
get that started.
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There was another
one where we had...
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In the morning at Sabbath,
we preached about evangelism,
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then we had that workshop,
and you have people again,
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who are saying, "Yes, now
I want to start that blog,
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I want to start that podcast,
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I want to start
that YouTube channel,"
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and they also
have the resources.
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So a lot of times
we're finding church members
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who want to do,
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but who don't know
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how to do or who
don't know where to start.
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So we connect them
and we create a community
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of online missionaries
of digital disciples.
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And so we say, you
know, you can come,
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we connect everyone,
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so that we can help
you learn even more.
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Look at that
online missionaries,
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digital
disciples, I'm loving this.
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Yes, yeah.
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What an amazing
use of what we have.
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We know like,
what's in your hand?
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What do we have, that we can use
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to reach millions of people?
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Of course, we have television,
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of course, we have the internet,
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it's incredible.
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The other thing we
want people to realize that
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we are not pushing
out or putting down
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the traditional
methods of evangelism.
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That is really important.
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So it's not pushing
that out and saying,
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"Hey, it's a new
age, just use your phone."
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No, we're still keeping
the traditional methods,
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were just saying,
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"Now you add the
digital methods."
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So we still need the overseas
missionaries, we still need,
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you know, to get
certain pamphlets
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printed out to
reach certain people.
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But we're saying
that you can also
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use the digital means.
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So you want to do
mission work, for example,
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connect with someone
in a developing country
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and say, "Hey, we're
offering Bible studies, "
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and then you can start a
feeding, clothing program,
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that is something
that actually happened
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as a result of
online evangelism,
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where you had someone
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who's communicating with
others in other countries,
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starting a feeding
and clothing program,
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and at the same
time sharing the gospel,
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and it's all being run online.
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Wow, wow, okay,
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so look into this
camera and talk to someone
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who is wanting to do
something more for Christ,
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but they don't know what to do.
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Tell them what they can do?
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So in Acts Chapter
1, God promises that
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He will give you power,
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and He will send
His Holy Spirit on you
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to do something
that you don't even think
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is capable of being done.
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We see Jabez
praying that prayer.
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He says, "Lord,
bless me, bless me, indeed,
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and enlarge my territory."
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And right now,
you have the ability
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for your
territory to be enlarged.
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It's not just talking
about material things,
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it's talking about God
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allowing your
territory to be enlarged,
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so that more people can
know of the saving grace
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and the power of Jesus Christ.
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And so if you
have that willingness,
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if you have that desire,
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God is saying,
now you are connected,
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you have no excuse now
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because the Center
for Online Evangelism
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is here to get you connected,
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to provide the resources,
to provide a training,
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and all you have to do
is get in touch with us.
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That's great, that is so good.
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You also have a partnership
with the Ellen White Estates,
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tell us about that?
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Yes, so we have
several partnerships
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with different ministries
in the Adventist Church.
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Because this is
not, first of all,
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this is not a work
that can only be done
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by the Center for
Online Evangelism.
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We're starting this,
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but we need to
partner with other people.
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So we find out
that a lot of people
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are searching for Ellen White.
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And she has great content
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that relates to
various aspects of life.
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But sometimes they're
not finding her content,
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they're not finding
about who she really is
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when they go online.
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So what we did is that
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we partnered with
the Ellen White Estate,
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so that we can make it possible
whenever someone searches for,
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to learn more about who she is,
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you know, if a
canvasser comes to their door,
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and they receive the
book, Steps to Christ
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or they received
the Desire of Ages,
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and they're
curious about this name,
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Ellen White, who is this?
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When they Google,
they pick up their phone,
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they Google or
they say, "Hey Siri, "
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that they could find
out who Ellen White is,
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and Siri is responding,
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but we don't want
features right now.
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And so this partnership
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will help us to
create more content
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about who she is
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and make her
work more accessible.
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We also partner
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with the General Conference
Communication Department.
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And also with the
North American Division,
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with their social media
and big data department also,
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so all of us
could work together.
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So whenever someone
searches to know more
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about who Adventist
are, who Ellen White is,
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whatever it is that
our church offers about,
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what the Bible
offers, that they can find it.
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That's incredible.
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That's incredible
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because there's a lot of
false information out there,
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negative information,
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and if you can really
show who she really was,
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that's really a blessing.
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So you've partnered
with the Ellen White Estates,
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and so...
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And you optimized, I guess,
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and so now the true
picture of her comes up.
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Right, I was giving
someone this example earlier
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about someone
added me on Facebook,
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well, they thought
they added me on Facebook,
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but it was another profile
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that someone else
had created about me.
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And so I realized, hey,
what do I do about this?
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I need to spend
more time on my own page
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so that people can
know who I really am,
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and not let
someone else tell my story.
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And so that's what
we need to start doing,
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start telling our own story,
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so someone else
isn't telling that story.
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Wonderful, you're
doing a wonderful job.
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Thank you so very much
for all that you are doing.
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Praise God,
thank you, Dr. Yvonne.
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And thank you for
being with us here today.
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You know, your
passion comes through,
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your joy in the
Lord comes through,
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and we just
appreciate you so much.
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So thank you.
Praise God, thank you.
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Thank you for joining us.
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I can't believe we've reached
the end of another program.
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Join us next time
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'cause it just wouldn't
be the same without you.
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