Stay tuned to meet the team behind the scenes 00:00:01.36\00:00:03.16 on Dare to Dream, 00:00:03.20\00:00:04.63 also known as the Dare to Dream dream team. 00:00:04.67\00:00:08.17 My name is Yvonne-Lewis Shelton. 00:00:08.20\00:00:10.44 And I'm Jason Bradley, 00:00:10.47\00:00:11.81 and you're watching Urban Report. 00:00:11.84\00:00:13.78 Hello and welcome to Urban Report. 00:00:39.20\00:00:41.64 Our guests today are no strangers 00:00:41.67\00:00:44.21 to Dare to Dream or 3ABN, 00:00:44.24\00:00:46.68 although you may have never seen them before. 00:00:46.71\00:00:49.94 They are the behind-the-camera team 00:00:49.98\00:00:53.21 who make the programs come together, 00:00:53.25\00:00:55.85 our D to D, Dare to Dream dream team, 00:00:55.88\00:00:59.45 Matthew Andrew and Ricky Carter. 00:00:59.49\00:01:02.12 Yay! 00:01:02.16\00:01:04.49 Thank you, thank you. We're so glad you're... 00:01:04.53\00:01:06.90 And, of course, Jason Bradley. 00:01:06.93\00:01:09.36 I was wondering when you were going to get to that. 00:01:09.40\00:01:11.20 You know I couldn't forget you, J. 00:01:11.23\00:01:13.40 You know I can't forget you. 00:01:13.44\00:01:14.77 You know, people don't really realize 00:01:14.80\00:01:17.21 what goes into these programs that we do. 00:01:17.24\00:01:20.78 You know, people just turn on the television 00:01:20.81\00:01:24.78 or watch on their iPad or on their iPhones 00:01:24.81\00:01:27.95 and they have no idea who's behind the programs, 00:01:27.98\00:01:32.55 what goes into producing these programs. 00:01:32.59\00:01:35.62 And so we brought that to you today 00:01:35.66\00:01:37.43 because we really want you to know these wonderful people 00:01:37.46\00:01:41.73 that have contributed so much to our ministry. 00:01:41.76\00:01:46.30 And so Ricky Carter does our graphics, and animation, 00:01:46.33\00:01:51.67 and all the opens... 00:01:51.71\00:01:53.81 99% of the opens that you see on Dare to Dream, 00:01:53.84\00:01:58.68 Ricky Carter does. 00:01:58.71\00:02:00.22 And we're going to show you some of his work later. 00:02:00.25\00:02:02.45 And then Matthew Andrew is our editor, and he, 00:02:02.48\00:02:07.22 you know, when things are a little out of sync 00:02:07.26\00:02:09.22 or he has to put the names 00:02:09.26\00:02:11.13 under at the bottom of the screen, 00:02:11.16\00:02:13.56 just all that stuff, things that you wouldn't... 00:02:13.60\00:02:16.67 you just kind of take for granted 00:02:16.70\00:02:18.10 because you just don't know what goes into it. 00:02:18.13\00:02:21.30 So we want to, first of all, 00:02:21.34\00:02:23.57 say thank you publicly to both of you 00:02:23.61\00:02:26.91 because what you do is... 00:02:26.94\00:02:30.18 You're our unsung heroes. 00:02:30.21\00:02:33.11 You're never in front of the camera, 00:02:33.15\00:02:35.05 all your work is behind the camera, 00:02:35.08\00:02:37.59 but God has gifted both of you with such wonderful gifts. 00:02:37.62\00:02:41.72 So we just want to acknowledge what you do and say thank you. 00:02:41.76\00:02:45.23 Yeah, thank you. 00:02:45.26\00:02:46.59 And you guys do it with such a positive attitude. 00:02:46.63\00:02:47.96 Yes. 00:02:48.00\00:02:49.33 I mean, we can call you about anything, 00:02:49.36\00:02:50.70 anytime we need something, sometimes it's last minute. 00:02:50.73\00:02:53.97 I know I've reached out to you, Ricky, 00:02:54.00\00:02:57.21 plenty of times 00:02:57.24\00:02:59.07 when there's been some type of change 00:02:59.11\00:03:01.58 or something that was last minute, 00:03:01.61\00:03:03.28 you could be in the car driving, 00:03:03.31\00:03:04.75 you're like, "Okay, hold on, 00:03:04.78\00:03:06.11 let me make a U-turn, my laptop's at the house. 00:03:06.15\00:03:07.95 I'll send it to you. I'll be there in five minutes." 00:03:07.98\00:03:10.99 And I mean, you really go above and beyond. 00:03:11.02\00:03:12.92 And, Matthew, you as well, 00:03:12.95\00:03:14.46 I mean, I can call upstairs to you 00:03:14.49\00:03:17.03 or go upstairs into your office 00:03:17.06\00:03:19.86 and no matter what it is that I need, 00:03:19.89\00:03:22.56 you find a way to make it happen, 00:03:22.60\00:03:23.97 and you do so with such a cheerful heart. 00:03:24.00\00:03:27.30 And I definitely appreciate both of you guys. 00:03:27.34\00:03:30.77 And this is a little bit different for us today because, 00:03:30.81\00:03:36.91 you know, we've switched... 00:03:36.95\00:03:38.75 Well, we didn't switch roles. 00:03:38.78\00:03:40.58 I'm glad you made that clear. 00:03:40.62\00:03:43.25 Well, now I'm the Dare to Dream General Manager. 00:03:43.28\00:03:46.79 He is the General Manager. 00:03:46.82\00:03:48.16 And you are the Dare to Dream Founder/Consultant. 00:03:48.19\00:03:50.96 Right. 00:03:50.99\00:03:52.33 So it's a little bit different now 00:03:52.36\00:03:54.56 because, previously, she was the General Manager. 00:03:54.60\00:03:58.60 Yes, and I want to say in acknowledgement of you, J, 00:03:58.63\00:04:02.20 that I'm just so, as a mom and as your boss, 00:04:02.24\00:04:06.21 I'm so proud of where God has brought you. 00:04:06.24\00:04:09.34 You have grown so much 00:04:09.38\00:04:12.58 in the short time that you've been here, 00:04:12.61\00:04:14.62 but you've been here four years, right? 00:04:14.65\00:04:16.52 Yeah, almost five. 00:04:16.55\00:04:17.89 Almost five years, and to see where God has brought you, 00:04:17.92\00:04:22.66 it's amazing, and so I want to say to you, 00:04:22.69\00:04:25.26 thank you so much for all that you do. 00:04:25.29\00:04:27.86 You have no idea all the stuff, 00:04:27.90\00:04:29.26 all the hats that Jason wears as well, 00:04:29.30\00:04:31.67 and it's a blessing because we can just see that 00:04:31.70\00:04:36.84 God is moving through all of us. 00:04:36.87\00:04:41.94 And He has chosen us to do this work. 00:04:41.98\00:04:46.41 It's really humbling to think that 00:04:46.45\00:04:48.75 God has chosen us to do this work. 00:04:48.78\00:04:52.65 But I want to say congratulations. 00:04:52.69\00:04:54.56 Right. Thank you. 00:04:54.59\00:04:55.96 As the GM. Thank you. 00:04:55.99\00:04:57.76 That's awesome. And you... 00:04:57.79\00:04:59.96 I'm going to talk about you for a second. 00:05:00.00\00:05:02.10 You did an excellent job with... 00:05:02.13\00:05:04.53 I'm not stepping into a situation, 00:05:04.57\00:05:06.23 you know, oftentimes, 00:05:06.27\00:05:07.60 you'll see a politician or something, 00:05:07.64\00:05:10.27 they always complain about their predecessor. 00:05:10.31\00:05:12.81 I've got no complaints. 00:05:12.84\00:05:14.18 You know, my mom/boss did a great job and left me... 00:05:14.21\00:05:19.38 left Dare to Dream in a position 00:05:19.41\00:05:21.08 where I'm stepping into a seat or sitting down in a seat 00:05:21.12\00:05:24.95 that is geared up and ready for success. 00:05:24.99\00:05:27.92 All I have to do is continue to submit to the Lord 00:05:27.96\00:05:30.53 and run it as He guides me. 00:05:30.56\00:05:33.83 So you've done an exceptional job. 00:05:33.86\00:05:35.36 You were here when there was no Dare to Dream, 00:05:35.40\00:05:38.73 and you had these programs and these concepts, 00:05:38.77\00:05:41.84 and you met people, 00:05:41.87\00:05:43.44 and God placed people in your path, and you did... 00:05:43.47\00:05:45.67 He did, He did. 00:05:45.71\00:05:47.04 You've done and continue to do an exceptional job 00:05:47.08\00:05:49.34 with Dare to Dream. 00:05:49.38\00:05:50.71 Well, praise the Lord. 00:05:50.75\00:05:52.08 And I'm so happy that I can still pick your brain. 00:05:52.11\00:05:55.12 What little there is left. 00:05:55.15\00:05:56.48 I told you that, when you turn, like, 90 years old, 00:05:56.52\00:05:59.42 I'm going to pick you up for work. 00:05:59.45\00:06:02.42 And you better be ready, don't make me late. 00:06:02.46\00:06:05.13 Don't make me late. 00:06:05.16\00:06:06.76 Comb those thin strands of hair and let's go. 00:06:06.80\00:06:09.96 You know what, it's too funny. 00:06:10.00\00:06:13.13 And also, I want to acknowledge 00:06:13.17\00:06:15.74 because, you know, people at home are seeing us here, 00:06:15.77\00:06:19.47 but there are so many other people 00:06:19.51\00:06:21.78 that have a role with Dare to Dream. 00:06:21.81\00:06:24.01 We have Brad that's directing this program as we speak. 00:06:24.05\00:06:26.95 Yes. 00:06:26.98\00:06:28.32 We have all of the people that are on camera right now. 00:06:28.35\00:06:30.72 We have the video graphics people, I mean... 00:06:30.75\00:06:33.56 Our floor director Kate. 00:06:33.59\00:06:34.96 Yeah, floor director Kate, and Bree, 00:06:34.99\00:06:38.16 and all these people... 00:06:38.19\00:06:39.53 Justin. Yep, Justin Lee. 00:06:39.56\00:06:41.23 Terrance. Terrance Marshall. 00:06:41.26\00:06:44.33 Too many people to name. 00:06:44.37\00:06:45.87 Yeah 'cause I'm going to forget somebody 00:06:45.90\00:06:47.54 and someone will be mad, so... 00:06:47.57\00:06:48.97 So I mean, there's such a huge administration 00:06:49.00\00:06:52.81 and everybody who has supported, 00:06:52.84\00:06:55.08 and you, you are part of the Dare to Dream team. 00:06:55.11\00:06:58.85 Absolutely. 00:06:58.88\00:07:00.22 You make it possible for these programs to take place. 00:07:00.25\00:07:02.58 You know, without your support... 00:07:02.62\00:07:05.89 We couldn't do it without you. That's right. 00:07:05.92\00:07:07.26 And so we are appreciative of you 00:07:07.29\00:07:09.32 and what you do for this ministry, 00:07:09.36\00:07:11.19 and how you share it with your friends, 00:07:11.23\00:07:12.93 your financial support as well. 00:07:12.96\00:07:15.33 I could go on forever and ever. 00:07:15.36\00:07:16.70 Let's continue with the... Let's get back to it. 00:07:16.73\00:07:19.17 Well, you know, the one thing that we know is that 00:07:19.20\00:07:22.04 God has chosen all of us to do this work. 00:07:22.07\00:07:25.84 He has a work for everyone to do. 00:07:25.87\00:07:27.34 Amen. 00:07:27.38\00:07:28.71 And so this is what we do, 00:07:28.74\00:07:32.15 and I want our viewers to hear your journeys 00:07:32.18\00:07:36.08 because, Matthew, let's start with you. 00:07:36.12\00:07:38.99 Yes. 00:07:39.02\00:07:40.36 Because, Matthew, you have 00:07:40.39\00:07:41.72 a very interesting testimony as far... 00:07:41.76\00:07:44.13 it's very interesting that God would have you working 00:07:44.16\00:07:47.53 with Dare to Dream particularly. 00:07:47.56\00:07:49.80 Yes. Why is that? 00:07:49.83\00:07:53.23 This has been a real journey for me, 00:07:53.27\00:07:55.10 and it was... 00:07:55.14\00:07:56.47 As I'm about to explain something that I probably told 00:07:56.50\00:07:58.64 maybe eight people in the world, I've never... 00:07:58.67\00:08:02.34 others outside of a few of you know this testimony. 00:08:02.38\00:08:06.51 As a young man, I grew up in a good family, 00:08:06.55\00:08:09.02 had a good upbringing, they... 00:08:09.05\00:08:11.92 It was a Christian family, 00:08:11.95\00:08:13.29 and they taught us to love people, 00:08:13.32\00:08:14.82 and be respectful, 00:08:14.86\00:08:16.46 and I grew up, went to high school age, 00:08:16.49\00:08:20.36 and in the city where I went, 00:08:20.40\00:08:21.73 there was people of all races, nationalities, 00:08:21.76\00:08:24.47 and it was a mix like most of America. 00:08:24.50\00:08:27.34 And I didn't really hate anyone, 00:08:27.37\00:08:29.07 got along with everybody, and really had a great time. 00:08:29.10\00:08:33.54 Later on in my life, I migrated... 00:08:33.58\00:08:35.58 I became a paramedic, 00:08:35.61\00:08:36.95 and I became on the fire department, 00:08:36.98\00:08:39.11 and being out, getting sent to the worst situations 00:08:39.15\00:08:43.12 where you meet the worst people 00:08:43.15\00:08:45.15 in their worst times with their worst attitudes 00:08:45.19\00:08:48.99 and see the results of shootings, stabbings... 00:08:49.02\00:08:52.39 And, of course, at the time when I was younger, 00:08:52.43\00:08:55.93 in the '70s, let's start there. 00:08:55.96\00:09:01.24 Let's start there. Let's start there. 00:09:01.27\00:09:04.61 It was a time when there was still racial tension, 00:09:04.64\00:09:08.21 and there was a lot of it, 00:09:08.24\00:09:09.58 and the stuff that was portrayed on TV, 00:09:09.61\00:09:11.91 if you're just growing up, 00:09:11.95\00:09:13.28 that's what you thought the world was like. 00:09:13.31\00:09:16.62 You saw in the news, 00:09:16.65\00:09:18.32 the Black Panthers and these things 00:09:18.35\00:09:20.26 that were a little more in the news, but they didn't... 00:09:20.29\00:09:23.56 I thought that's what all people were like, like that 00:09:23.59\00:09:27.43 'cause that's the picture I saw. 00:09:27.46\00:09:29.36 And having nothing else to really to think about, 00:09:29.40\00:09:32.07 that's what I thought, 00:09:32.10\00:09:33.44 but I got to the point where I hated, 00:09:33.47\00:09:35.80 I hated black people. 00:09:35.84\00:09:38.71 I really did. 00:09:38.74\00:09:40.31 Hate, hate. 00:09:40.34\00:09:42.51 And as I made these runs and saw a black-on-black crime, 00:09:42.54\00:09:45.78 black-on-white crime, white... 00:09:45.81\00:09:47.22 Yes, it was white-on-white crime, 00:09:47.25\00:09:48.82 sure, there's all that stuff out in the real world, 00:09:48.85\00:09:51.05 but I don't know where that came from, 00:09:51.09\00:09:55.02 I really don't 'cause it's not what I learned as a child, 00:09:55.06\00:09:57.29 but somewhere I migrated into that 00:09:57.33\00:09:59.39 Satan will take you if you take your eyes off Him 00:09:59.43\00:10:02.16 to a place you don't want to go. 00:10:02.20\00:10:03.83 Yes. You just don't want to go. 00:10:03.87\00:10:06.47 He will twist your view of the world, of people, 00:10:06.50\00:10:10.41 and I got to the point where I just hated people of color. 00:10:10.44\00:10:15.44 And that's hard to admit, that's hard to say out loud. 00:10:15.48\00:10:18.91 Especially surrounded by black people. 00:10:18.95\00:10:23.82 It's not hard for me today, 00:10:23.85\00:10:25.19 it is more hard for me to say it for me 00:10:25.22\00:10:29.32 than it is for all our viewers. 00:10:29.36\00:10:30.69 Yes. 00:10:30.73\00:10:32.23 Because I don't know where that came from 00:10:32.26\00:10:35.36 and that stayed with me for many years, 00:10:35.40\00:10:37.63 but then I started being led to the Lord leading me back. 00:10:37.67\00:10:42.34 And I won't include that whole journey, 00:10:42.37\00:10:43.74 that's a whole another story, but slowly but surely, 00:10:43.77\00:10:46.78 He led me back to a picture of... 00:10:46.81\00:10:49.74 Look at Jesus, look at Jesus, 00:10:49.78\00:10:51.78 this is the picture of what heaven will be like, 00:10:51.81\00:10:54.05 and what people in heaven will be like. 00:10:54.08\00:10:56.32 And so eventually, I came to the point 00:10:56.35\00:10:59.29 where I got beyond the hatred, 00:10:59.32\00:11:01.72 and it wasn't something that happened 00:11:01.76\00:11:03.36 like a road to Damascus experience, 00:11:03.39\00:11:05.33 it was one of those over time, imperceptible, 00:11:05.36\00:11:08.33 where I woke up one day and said, 00:11:08.36\00:11:10.00 "You know, I don't hate people anymore." 00:11:10.03\00:11:14.20 Did you... 00:11:14.24\00:11:15.70 Was it a situation 00:11:15.74\00:11:17.07 where you didn't know any black people personally 00:11:17.11\00:11:19.24 because I find that, you know, a lot of times 00:11:19.27\00:11:21.91 when there's this misperception on either side, 00:11:21.94\00:11:24.91 you know, black against white or white against black, 00:11:24.95\00:11:28.42 it's because you don't know anybody 00:11:28.45\00:11:29.98 from a different culture? 00:11:30.02\00:11:31.35 You don't know them except superficially. 00:11:31.39\00:11:33.99 Yeah. "Hi, how are you doing?" 00:11:34.02\00:11:35.36 But they're not... 00:11:35.39\00:11:36.73 They're not coming to your house, 00:11:36.76\00:11:38.09 they are not hanging out with you, 00:11:38.13\00:11:39.46 so you don't really know them. 00:11:39.49\00:11:40.83 Was it a situation where 00:11:40.86\00:11:42.26 you got to know someone of color 00:11:42.30\00:11:44.53 and that's how your misperceptions dropped 00:11:44.57\00:11:49.60 or was it just the Lord just lead you out? 00:11:49.64\00:11:53.81 That's a good question. 00:11:53.84\00:11:55.18 And as I think about that, as I think back on that, 00:11:55.21\00:11:57.41 when I was in high school, I had black friends. 00:11:57.45\00:12:00.82 I didn't think of them as black folks or white, they... 00:12:00.85\00:12:04.39 It was... They were my friends. 00:12:04.42\00:12:06.22 And so I don't know where that came from. 00:12:06.25\00:12:08.96 And it's shocking for me to look back and say that 00:12:08.99\00:12:11.33 the devil can take you on their journey. 00:12:11.36\00:12:13.13 Absolutely. 00:12:13.16\00:12:14.53 And you have to watch, you know, guard your heart 00:12:14.56\00:12:17.93 and guard your eyes in what you see 00:12:17.97\00:12:19.40 and don't let perceptions of the world tell you 00:12:19.43\00:12:21.44 what you ought to think and how you ought to be. 00:12:21.47\00:12:24.01 And so somehow I got past all that 00:12:24.04\00:12:27.71 and became a Christian. 00:12:27.74\00:12:29.34 I'm a Seventh-day Adventist Christian now, and we... 00:12:29.38\00:12:32.95 Some years ago, Phyllis and I came to 3ABN, and we just, 00:12:32.98\00:12:37.92 as many people who come here to begin their journey, 00:12:37.95\00:12:41.76 working for the Lord, 00:12:41.79\00:12:43.19 they put you someplace but you get migrated 00:12:43.22\00:12:45.26 and shifted around until you find your niche. 00:12:45.29\00:12:47.20 Right. 00:12:47.23\00:12:48.56 Many of us have done many different jobs 00:12:48.60\00:12:50.53 since we've been here. 00:12:50.57\00:12:51.90 I started out in marketing, have done many other things, 00:12:51.93\00:12:54.04 but I don't want to get too far off the course here. 00:12:54.07\00:12:56.87 The thing is that, 00:12:56.91\00:12:58.77 one day, I was in the pastoral department 00:12:58.81\00:13:00.91 working on the prayer line 00:13:00.94\00:13:03.61 and our former General Manager Mollie Steenson said, 00:13:03.65\00:13:07.52 "You know, we'd like to talk to you." 00:13:07.55\00:13:08.88 So I went down and she said, 00:13:08.92\00:13:10.25 "We think you have the makings to be an editor." 00:13:10.29\00:13:12.52 And I thought, 00:13:12.55\00:13:14.59 "This woman needs psychiatric help. 00:13:14.62\00:13:18.29 There's no way in the world. 00:13:18.33\00:13:19.66 She's obviously not hearing from the Lord." 00:13:19.69\00:13:21.76 But she was and... 00:13:21.80\00:13:23.73 But I loved working with computers. 00:13:23.77\00:13:25.50 I just love it. It just fascinated me. 00:13:25.53\00:13:28.10 And they're going to let me work on a Mac computer. 00:13:28.14\00:13:30.51 I said, "Well, now I have to do something." 00:13:30.54\00:13:33.07 So I said, "Okay." 00:13:33.11\00:13:36.04 And I got into that, and that was very interesting. 00:13:36.08\00:13:39.18 And they just said, "Learn editing." 00:13:39.21\00:13:42.38 That's all I knew about it, and I said, "Okay." 00:13:42.42\00:13:44.09 So some of the people started teaching me, 00:13:44.12\00:13:45.69 and then I realized one day they said, 00:13:45.72\00:13:47.66 "And you're going to do the editing 00:13:47.69\00:13:49.02 for the Dare to Dream network." 00:13:49.06\00:13:50.59 That's great. It is. 00:13:55.63\00:13:57.03 I can do that, you know, 00:13:57.07\00:13:58.70 but this has been a journey for me 00:13:58.73\00:14:01.30 because as I've been editing these programs, 00:14:01.34\00:14:04.97 I've been seeing fantastic people of color. 00:14:05.01\00:14:08.94 Amen. Praise the Lord. 00:14:08.98\00:14:10.31 Who are doctors, and lawyers, and brilliant people, 00:14:10.35\00:14:13.98 and business people, and educators, 00:14:14.02\00:14:16.65 who are out there making incredible, 00:14:16.69\00:14:19.59 incredible contributions to their communities 00:14:19.62\00:14:22.89 that are turning and encouraging young people. 00:14:22.92\00:14:26.46 And I've seen black young people come on and I've seen... 00:14:26.49\00:14:29.60 Look at these wonderful things young people are doing. 00:14:29.63\00:14:32.03 And I realized there's a part of the journey 00:14:32.07\00:14:35.14 that's deceptive. 00:14:35.17\00:14:37.01 It's not enough to say, "I hate and now I don't," 00:14:37.04\00:14:41.68 because if we're going to be in heaven, 00:14:41.71\00:14:43.04 Jesus says, "You must love one another." 00:14:43.08\00:14:45.95 Now that's a different ballgame. 00:14:45.98\00:14:47.72 Right. 00:14:47.75\00:14:49.08 So you have to get past hate to not hating, 00:14:49.12\00:14:52.65 but that's the beginning 00:14:52.69\00:14:54.02 'cause now I have to learn to love. 00:14:54.06\00:14:55.39 That's right. I have to learn to love. 00:14:55.42\00:14:57.16 I've got to go all the way. 00:14:57.19\00:14:59.69 Just getting to I don't hate is just neutral. 00:14:59.73\00:15:02.86 We got to go the whole distance, 00:15:02.90\00:15:04.23 the whole distance. 00:15:04.27\00:15:05.60 Where have I heard that before? Right. 00:15:05.63\00:15:06.97 Okay. Yeah. 00:15:07.00\00:15:08.34 So I just started watching this, 00:15:08.37\00:15:09.70 and I was so fascinated, and I found out, 00:15:09.74\00:15:11.67 "Yes, you're going to be on Dare to Dream 00:15:11.71\00:15:14.24 and Yvonne Lewis is going to be your boss." 00:15:14.28\00:15:17.31 And I said, "Well, that's pretty cool." 00:15:17.35\00:15:23.59 Because the Lord tests us. 00:15:23.62\00:15:26.25 He tests us. "Do you really love Me? 00:15:26.29\00:15:29.36 You know, you say you don't hate, 00:15:29.39\00:15:31.33 but are you willing to build relationships?" 00:15:31.36\00:15:34.33 Right. Right. 00:15:34.36\00:15:35.73 "Can you build relationships?" So I said, "I can do this." 00:15:35.76\00:15:38.33 And then after just sitting down, 00:15:38.37\00:15:39.77 I wasn't long talking to you, 00:15:39.80\00:15:41.14 I said, "Oh, yeah, I'm in a good place." 00:15:41.17\00:15:43.61 Praise the Lord. 00:15:43.64\00:15:44.97 And so now I went from hating black people 00:15:45.01\00:15:48.91 to being on the Urban Network. 00:15:48.94\00:15:52.81 Right. God has a sense of humor. 00:15:52.85\00:15:55.82 I really think He does. 00:15:55.85\00:15:57.19 And He gave me a black female boss, 00:15:57.22\00:16:01.52 and I was having some health challenges. 00:16:01.56\00:16:04.09 And I said, "Okay, Lord, I really feel like 00:16:04.13\00:16:06.83 I'm making progress, but I need another doctor." 00:16:06.86\00:16:10.30 My doctor made a recommendation, 00:16:10.33\00:16:12.07 see this neurologist I want to set you up with, 00:16:12.10\00:16:14.24 so I went to the neurologist, I'd never seen her, 00:16:14.27\00:16:16.77 didn't know her, I see her name is... 00:16:16.81\00:16:19.34 Oh, it's a female, Tiffany. 00:16:19.37\00:16:21.88 Okay, and I won't go any further than that 00:16:21.91\00:16:23.24 'cause we're not doing that. 00:16:23.28\00:16:24.61 But anyway, I went to her and found out that, 00:16:24.65\00:16:28.02 as I walked in, God has a sense of humor, 00:16:28.05\00:16:30.55 she was a young, female black doctor. 00:16:30.59\00:16:35.79 And I said, "I got the picture." 00:16:35.82\00:16:37.76 Yeah. 00:16:37.79\00:16:39.13 And so, and I love her, and I love you folks, 00:16:39.16\00:16:41.43 and you're all my family, and so it's not enough. 00:16:41.46\00:16:44.20 Yes. That's my journey. 00:16:44.23\00:16:45.57 My testimony is just not enough to not hate, you have to love. 00:16:45.60\00:16:48.40 Amen, amen. 00:16:48.44\00:16:50.71 That is a powerful testimony. 00:16:50.74\00:16:52.81 And like you, I believe that God does have a sense of humor. 00:16:52.84\00:16:56.08 He does, yeah. And that story proves it. 00:16:56.11\00:16:59.01 Ricky, we want to talk about you as well 00:16:59.05\00:17:01.92 and go into your journey. 00:17:01.95\00:17:03.28 But before we do, we actually have a roll compiled of 00:17:03.32\00:17:08.69 your work and Matthew's work. 00:17:08.72\00:17:10.53 You put together the opening graphics 00:17:10.56\00:17:13.29 and you edit the program, 00:17:13.33\00:17:15.26 so I want to take a look at that. 00:17:15.30\00:17:17.57 All right. 00:17:17.60\00:17:18.93 And so we have this double emphasis on 00:17:51.77\00:17:54.67 Christ being called up to God unto His throne, 00:17:54.70\00:17:56.60 which is what happens as He's resurrected 00:17:56.64\00:17:59.04 and begins His mediation, His intercessory work there. 00:17:59.07\00:18:02.34 Each one of these epochs and each one of these 00:18:02.38\00:18:04.31 churches, seals, trumpets, and salvation signs 00:18:04.35\00:18:06.08 begins in the Apostolic age, 00:18:06.11\00:18:08.38 begins at this holy place, simultaneous ministry, 00:18:08.42\00:18:12.09 and shows us the churches, seals, and trumpets 00:18:12.12\00:18:14.59 are all cycles of seven, 00:18:14.62\00:18:16.66 that parallel, that run down together 00:18:16.69\00:18:19.26 at the same time, happens simultaneously. 00:18:19.29\00:18:21.16 So we couldn't say that the seven churches occur here 00:18:21.20\00:18:24.67 but then the seven seals occur after the seven churches. 00:18:24.70\00:18:28.57 Or the seven trumpets occur after this... 00:18:28.60\00:18:31.07 No, they unfold simultaneously. 00:18:31.11\00:18:35.61 You know, when you're working the dream, 00:18:35.64\00:18:38.38 the struggle is oh-so real. 00:18:38.41\00:18:42.28 You have to be determined. 00:18:42.32\00:18:44.75 You have to work hard. 00:18:44.79\00:18:48.29 And be compassionate. 00:18:48.32\00:18:50.73 Set goals. 00:18:50.76\00:18:52.13 And be timely. 00:18:52.16\00:18:54.06 Stay focused. And reach high. 00:18:54.10\00:18:57.27 You need all these and the Lord to come together 00:18:57.30\00:19:00.44 to make you a better person 00:19:00.47\00:19:02.07 while you're working the dream. 00:19:02.10\00:19:07.71 You actually even met. 00:19:07.74\00:19:09.48 Them pastors be making some big dollar bills, y'all. 00:19:09.51\00:19:13.11 Selling snake oil, prayer cloths, 00:19:13.15\00:19:16.55 splinters from the tree of life and all that stuff, 00:19:16.58\00:19:18.89 so if I can't make it in the real world, 00:19:18.92\00:19:20.29 I'mma make some money as a pastor, 00:19:20.32\00:19:21.66 that's what I'm trying to say. 00:19:21.69\00:19:23.06 I understand, I understand. Don't you worry about it. 00:19:23.09\00:19:25.89 What makes you think you're a good fit 00:19:25.93\00:19:27.30 for this particular position? 00:19:27.33\00:19:28.86 Man, I got the experience, I got the education, 00:19:28.90\00:19:31.53 plus I bring some swagger, 00:19:31.57\00:19:33.34 you know, nobody in this company so far 00:19:33.37\00:19:35.44 that I've seen got swag in. 00:19:35.47\00:19:36.97 This company needs some swagger, 00:19:37.01\00:19:38.67 that what G-stack brings to the table. 00:19:38.71\00:19:40.44 We do have swagger. 00:19:40.48\00:19:41.81 Girl, I thought, I told you to get this mess cleaned up. 00:20:20.68\00:20:23.45 You sure did tell her, Mom. 00:20:23.49\00:20:25.05 She never does anything you tell her to do. 00:20:25.09\00:20:27.22 I already cleaned up this room. 00:20:27.26\00:20:29.22 Who are you talking to like that? 00:20:29.26\00:20:30.96 I said get this mess cleaned up! 00:20:30.99\00:20:33.26 First of all, I need you to get out of my face 00:20:33.29\00:20:36.77 and stay out of my face. 00:20:36.80\00:20:38.57 I already cleaned this room up yesterday. 00:20:38.60\00:20:40.90 Oh, no! Oh, no! Oh, no! 00:20:40.94\00:20:44.44 You have me confused with somebody else. 00:20:44.47\00:20:47.04 Who do you think you're talking to? 00:20:47.08\00:20:48.81 If you don't get this mess cleaned up, 00:20:48.84\00:20:50.85 we're going to be planning a funeral in here today. 00:20:50.88\00:20:52.88 And it shall come to pass 00:20:56.79\00:20:59.22 That before they call 00:20:59.25\00:21:01.82 I will answer 00:21:01.86\00:21:03.93 Yes, I will answer. 00:21:03.96\00:21:06.29 And while they are yet speaking 00:21:06.33\00:21:11.40 I will hear Yes, I will hear. 00:21:11.43\00:21:16.54 Isaiah 65:24 says this 00:21:16.57\00:21:21.24 Isaiah 65:24 00:21:21.28\00:21:25.15 And it shall come to pass 00:21:25.18\00:21:27.62 That before they call 00:21:27.65\00:21:30.49 I will answer Yes, I will answer 00:21:30.52\00:21:34.72 And while they are yet speaking 00:21:34.76\00:21:39.86 I will hear Yes, I will hear 00:21:39.89\00:21:44.83 Isaiah 65:24 says this 00:21:44.87\00:21:49.50 Isaiah 65:24 00:21:49.54\00:21:53.58 That is such a powerful demonstration of the gifts 00:22:34.92\00:22:38.25 that God has given to both of you, 00:22:38.29\00:22:40.06 and, again, we just thank you. 00:22:40.09\00:22:42.62 We thank you so much for bringing them here 00:22:42.66\00:22:45.16 to Dare to Dream and 3ABN. 00:22:45.19\00:22:47.43 Ricky, tell us about your journey? 00:22:47.46\00:22:50.33 How did you get to Dare to Dream too? 00:22:50.37\00:22:53.20 You know, I worked for Country Music Television 00:22:53.23\00:22:56.00 for a good little while and after working... 00:22:56.04\00:22:58.77 Well, while working with them, near the end of my time there, 00:22:58.81\00:23:02.14 the Lord was impressing on me, 00:23:02.18\00:23:03.75 "How can you promote 40 greatest drinking songs? 00:23:03.78\00:23:06.88 How can you promote Coyote Ugly, 00:23:06.92\00:23:10.02 women that are half-dressed? 00:23:10.05\00:23:11.39 How could you do that and still represent Me?" 00:23:11.42\00:23:14.16 And that really worked on my heart, and I said, 00:23:14.19\00:23:16.39 "Lord, if you can get me out of here, 00:23:16.42\00:23:19.03 then I will serve You, 00:23:19.06\00:23:20.40 I will dedicate the talent that You've given me, 00:23:20.43\00:23:24.23 I'll dedicate it to You." 00:23:24.27\00:23:25.60 And the Lord made a way so I could work for myself, 00:23:25.63\00:23:29.20 worked for myself for a few years, went to Michigan, 00:23:29.24\00:23:31.67 worked for one of my clients there, 00:23:31.71\00:23:33.48 then went back to working for myself, 00:23:33.51\00:23:36.14 where most of my clients... 00:23:36.18\00:23:37.51 I'd say 98% of my clients are not just Christian clients now 00:23:37.55\00:23:41.75 but they're Adventists. 00:23:41.78\00:23:43.12 Wow. 00:23:43.15\00:23:44.49 And so I remember 00:23:44.52\00:23:46.35 when Dare to Dream was starting, and I was like, 00:23:46.39\00:23:49.22 "Boy, I would love to work for that channel." 00:23:49.26\00:23:51.89 And I just called and asked for you, 00:23:51.93\00:23:55.16 but you weren't there, so I left a message, 00:23:55.20\00:23:57.93 "Dr. Lewis, this is Ricky Carter, 00:23:57.97\00:23:59.30 I'm a designer animator, 00:23:59.33\00:24:00.74 would you be interested in having 00:24:00.77\00:24:02.37 any volunteer graphic work done for any of our programs?" 00:24:02.40\00:24:06.51 You called me back a few days later, 00:24:06.54\00:24:08.68 and we talked, things worked well, 00:24:08.71\00:24:10.78 and gave me the first project, 00:24:10.81\00:24:12.15 and I remember that first project, 00:24:12.18\00:24:13.52 it was Take it to the Bank. 00:24:13.55\00:24:15.82 And that was a fun project to work on. 00:24:15.85\00:24:18.75 And with that project, 00:24:18.79\00:24:20.16 not only doing the graphics for it, 00:24:20.19\00:24:22.22 designing the logo, 00:24:22.26\00:24:23.59 but being able to come up with the music 00:24:23.63\00:24:26.09 and then doing the voiceover. 00:24:26.13\00:24:27.50 Yes. 00:24:27.53\00:24:29.60 But yeah, the Lord just opened up a way for me 00:24:29.63\00:24:31.50 to use my talents to work for Him, it reminds me of... 00:24:31.53\00:24:36.71 There's an artist in the Bible, I think his name is Aholiab, 00:24:36.74\00:24:40.11 and he was one of those artists that worked on designing 00:24:40.14\00:24:45.38 all the artwork in the temple, 00:24:45.41\00:24:48.22 and I was like, "Man, if he could do that, 00:24:48.25\00:24:51.22 I know I could do something for the Lord as well." 00:24:51.25\00:24:53.15 Wow, wow. That's beautiful. 00:24:53.19\00:24:55.32 You know, when you called me about volunteering, 00:24:55.36\00:24:58.69 I thought that's such a great thing. 00:24:58.73\00:25:01.30 That was such a great way to get your foot in the door 00:25:01.33\00:25:03.67 because he wasn't asking for anything, 00:25:03.70\00:25:05.67 he was volunteering his time and his talent, 00:25:05.70\00:25:08.57 and then when I saw how talented you were, 00:25:08.60\00:25:10.64 I was like, "Oh, wow, now can you do this? 00:25:10.67\00:25:12.74 Can you do that?" 00:25:12.77\00:25:14.11 And then you actually helped to give Dare to Dream its identity 00:25:14.14\00:25:17.81 as far as, you know, like the logo and the... 00:25:17.85\00:25:23.08 The Sabbath, the happy Sabbath, 00:25:23.12\00:25:25.72 you know, that whole animation thing. 00:25:25.75\00:25:28.12 So again, that's... 00:25:28.16\00:25:30.13 God brought the two of you, the two of you to us. 00:25:30.16\00:25:32.39 Absolutely. 00:25:32.43\00:25:33.76 What would you say to 00:25:33.80\00:25:36.23 those who have talent like you, who mightwant to... 00:25:36.26\00:25:39.80 both of you, who might want to do something for the Lord, 00:25:39.83\00:25:42.80 but they're hesitant? 00:25:42.84\00:25:44.17 What would you say? 00:25:44.21\00:25:45.54 You have about 30 seconds, both of you, to say it. 00:25:45.57\00:25:49.91 The simple answer is don't hesitate. 00:25:49.94\00:25:51.78 If you feel God is leading you 00:25:51.81\00:25:54.02 by the power of the Holy Spirit, 00:25:54.05\00:25:56.02 don't stop, go forward, 00:25:56.05\00:25:57.39 He will never lead you in a place 00:25:57.42\00:25:58.75 where He's not willing to supply every need. 00:25:58.79\00:26:00.32 Amen. Amen. 00:26:00.36\00:26:01.69 I would say, 00:26:01.72\00:26:03.06 trust in the Lord with all your heart, 00:26:03.09\00:26:05.73 lean not on to your own understanding. 00:26:05.76\00:26:07.20 In all your ways acknowledge Him, and He will direct thy 00:26:07.23\00:26:09.23 paths. 00:26:09.26\00:26:11.67 Yes. Amen. 00:26:11.70\00:26:13.23 That is the key to trust in God and to know 00:26:13.27\00:26:16.60 that He is going to have you... 00:26:16.64\00:26:19.01 He's going to take you, 00:26:19.04\00:26:20.64 the steps of a righteous man are ordered by the Lord. 00:26:20.68\00:26:22.78 He's going to take you to where you need to go, 00:26:22.81\00:26:25.38 if you just trust in Him. 00:26:25.41\00:26:26.78 Do you have any closing thoughts, J? 00:26:26.82\00:26:28.15 Yeah, I just think it's amazing and interesting that 00:26:28.18\00:26:33.62 even while you were volunteering, 00:26:33.66\00:26:34.99 you put forth your best work. 00:26:35.02\00:26:37.16 Right. 00:26:37.19\00:26:38.53 You know, you always give your best, 00:26:38.56\00:26:39.89 never anything less, no matter what. 00:26:39.93\00:26:42.23 I don't care if you're sweeping the floor, 00:26:42.26\00:26:44.20 I don't care, whatever is going on, 00:26:44.23\00:26:46.33 you always give your best, 00:26:46.37\00:26:47.74 and I believe that with both of you, 00:26:47.77\00:26:51.01 you guys always put forth your best work. 00:26:51.04\00:26:53.51 They do. I definitely appreciate that. 00:26:53.54\00:26:55.21 They do. 00:26:55.24\00:26:56.58 And we want you to know that, 00:26:56.61\00:26:58.11 again, we always say this, 00:26:58.15\00:26:59.65 that God has a plan for your life 00:26:59.68\00:27:01.68 and if you look at, 00:27:01.72\00:27:03.55 you know, where God brought Matthew from, 00:27:03.59\00:27:06.02 you know, a place of animosity toward minorities 00:27:06.05\00:27:10.23 and now he's working with a minority network, 00:27:10.26\00:27:12.09 I mean, it really is funny. 00:27:12.13\00:27:13.60 And then... 00:27:13.63\00:27:14.96 And loving it because God is love, 00:27:15.00\00:27:17.27 and you have sought God, 00:27:17.30\00:27:19.17 and God's Spirit is working through you. 00:27:19.20\00:27:21.60 And then Ricky came on as a volunteer 00:27:21.64\00:27:24.54 and then began to do all of our work basically, 00:27:24.57\00:27:28.54 and work for the parent network as well. 00:27:28.58\00:27:31.31 So we just want to, again, thank you and acknowledge you. 00:27:31.35\00:27:34.75 Thank you, J, for all that you're doing. 00:27:34.78\00:27:38.02 And again, I'm just so proud and thankful 00:27:38.05\00:27:40.59 for the work that you're doing. 00:27:40.62\00:27:42.12 And expect great things coming from J as the General Manager 00:27:42.16\00:27:46.86 because he's got some great ideas 00:27:46.90\00:27:49.56 as to what he wants to do 00:27:49.60\00:27:51.37 and where he wants to take the network 00:27:51.40\00:27:53.47 by the grace of God. 00:27:53.50\00:27:54.97 Thank you for being with us. 00:27:55.00\00:27:57.37 Join us next time because, you know what, 00:27:57.41\00:27:59.84 it just wouldn't be the same without you. 00:27:59.87\00:28:03.04