Are you walking in
your divine destiny?
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Well stay tuned to meet a couple
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who is doing just that.
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My name is Jason Bradley
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and you're
watching Urban Report.
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Hello, and
welcome to Urban Report.
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My guests today are
Greg and Jill Morikone.
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Greg is the
general vice president
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and production manager of 3ABN.
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And Jill is the
general manager of 3ABN.
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Together they
make a powerful team
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to build God's Kingdom.
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Welcome to Urban
Report, Greg and Jill.
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Thank you, Jason.
It's good to be here.
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Thank you, Jason.
It's good to have you.
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It's a little different me
sitting on the side of things
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and interviewing
you guys for a change.
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Well, we're all
family, so it's nice.
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So we always
call you my neighbor
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and you say neighbor
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'cause our offices are
at a little bit of an angle
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to each other right across
the hall, so we're family.
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That's right. That's right.
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And it feels whole different
to be on the guest end too.
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So it's a privilege to be
here with you on Urban Report.
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It's a privilege
to have you guys.
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Of course, you're no
stranger to Dare to Dream
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or 3ABN by any means.
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But we want to get a
look into your journey
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prior to coming to 3ABN
and during your tenure here.
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How did you guys
meet? Let's start there.
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I should probably have
the lady to start with that.
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You want to start with that?
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Good answer. Okay.
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We met the summer
before our freshman year
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in college.
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And we met in the cafeteria,
the college cafeteria.
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I just came down to eat,
and there he was sitting,
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and I thought, I'll
come and sit with him,
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and there's a
whole group of students.
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You know, I
didn't know his name,
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I didn't know him or
anything and sat down.
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And then I just
thought, "Oh, he's a nice guy,
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he's kind of cute."
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And I get to go
to school with him.
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And then Greg had a
little different thought.
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Yeah, we actually
didn't date during college.
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Really? We were
just great friends.
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We had a number of good friends.
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But anyway, the instance
that she's talking about
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is once we stood up from once...
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You know, you get a
lot of crazy thoughts
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running through your
head through one's lifetime.
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Well, this thought came to me
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was that you're going to
marry that young lady some day.
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I'm like, "Oh, yeah,
whatever that would be great.
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You know she's beautiful,
she seems very talented.
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I just met her, but I
thought that would be wonderful,
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but probably not.
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And when in the
scheme of things to that?
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First meeting. First meeting.
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First meeting. Wow.
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In the first meeting. Okay.
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'Cause you know in
your mind you're like, okay,
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it probably just
came to me because,
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you know, she's really pretty
and like I said very talented.
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But God had plans in
mind that sure enough...
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How many years,
that was in 1996.
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'96. Wow.
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So that was we were
married six years later.
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Yeah, about six years later
after college we graduated.
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So friendship
turned into a marriage.
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Wow. And so you
had the friendship.
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So you established a
good foundation there,
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then after college you
entered into the courtship,
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and then
transitioned into the marriage.
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Yeah, 'cause I came
here on internship to 3ABN.
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And you were interning
out in Washington State.
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I was.
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And so I'm
realizing, you know what,
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she's a great
friend, but, you know,
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I think it's more than that.
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And so that's when we
pursued a deeper relationship.
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And how did you make
that long distance thing work?
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Yeah, that was tough.
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You know, he was my
best friend in college.
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I mean, you know, I
met him in the cafA(C),
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and then as we would progress
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through our years
in school together,
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he was my best guy
friend I should say.
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And, you know, I
love to talk to him,
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we could start to
finish each other's sentences,
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just we spent time together,
but there was never that.
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I didn't know if he
liked me in that fashion.
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You know, and as a
woman you kind of think,
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"Well, is he interested in me?"
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If he is, you know
what's going on here.
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So when he was here
at 3ABN on internship
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and then I was
out at the West Coast.
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I mean, I was student teaching
and then teaching out there.
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And we used to write
the old fashioned letters.
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Oh, yeah.
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And just as a friend, he
never intimated anything.
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And then at one
point, I remember thinking,
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okay, he's got to get
moving with something.
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You know, if he's not interested
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or he doesn't see,
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I didn't know where
our relationship stood
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'cause I didn't know
what he thought of me
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in that fashion.
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So this is the
year after graduation
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and we had seen each
other again after that,
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you know, year of being apart.
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And all those feelings
came up again and I thought,
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"Okay, God I really like him.
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But what am I
supposed to do with this
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'cause I don't know
what he thinks about me."
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And he had been very careful
to protect those boundaries,
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just relate to me in
the form of a friend.
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And I didn't know and
so I prayed and I said,
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"God, would You just reveal,
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would You make it
abundantly evident."
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He needs to approach me
or he has to do something,
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otherwise I can't
keep writing letters
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'cause I'm becoming
emotionally attached,
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you know, in this relationship.
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And so I wouldn't recommend
doing this, but I said,
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"Okay, God, he
has 24 hours to tell."
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Wow. Okay.
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If I didn't know
this, if I knew that,
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I'll probably stress out.
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Yeah, absolutely.
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So what took
place within that 24?
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Within that 24
hours he approached
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and said that he was interested
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in pursuing a
relationship and...
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Wow.
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And see that's powerful
because you didn't even know
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that she did the
whole 24 hours thing...
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No, that she had
that prayer, yeah.
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So the Holy Spirit
was working on your heart.
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Praise the Lord. Wow!
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You know the one too, you
know, it may seem a bit strange
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'cause you know
when you're in college,
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usually that's the
place to meet your spouse,
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a lot of dating
and stuff goes on.
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But we've made a choice,
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you know,
obviously not to do that.
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I want to see someone,
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you know, when you're
in a romantic relationship
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many times people try and
put the best foot forward,
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and you don't see
how they truly are.
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So I want to just see her
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as she really was which is just,
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you know, just a beautiful...
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Yeah, she is,
yeah, in many ways.
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And so I got to
really observe that,
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we traveled in the touring choir
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around the United States,
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around certain
parts of the world.
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You know, you get to
see someone in different,
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I don't know, the
facets of the daily grind
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of school work.
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And I grew to truly appreciate
who she was as a person.
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That's nice and that
friendship really enabled that.
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That's right. That's great.
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And then he pursued me.
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And then he pursued you.
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Got engaged
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and after we were
engaged, it was only...
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Was it three months,
three and a half months...
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From engagement to when...
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To when we got
married. Nice, yeah.
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But we want together
maybe. Want to know why wait.
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Exactly.
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Why wait so long especially
when you're once engaged...
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Then once you're engaged,
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why wait so long
for the marriage.
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That's right. Yeah, absolutely.
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That's interesting.
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So we were married
in September 22, 2002.
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Wow!
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So it's been a blessing, a
wonderful journey together.
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Amen. Nice, nice.
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And you guys
complement each other so well,
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like, you know,
there are some couples
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that just have that look,
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like they're
supposed to be together.
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You guys have that look,
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like you guys are
supposed to be together,
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and your personalities
match very well too.
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We have commented that,
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you know, we're
just appreciative of God
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and the journey that
He has put us on together,
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and that we're teamed
up together as a team,
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as a husband and
wife, being a part of 3ABN.
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You know that wasn't, you know,
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when you start your
life and as a little child
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you don't know
where you're going to go.
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The key is to
just lay your life out.
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As an individual
we still do that,
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but then as a couple...
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God take us as a couple,
what would You have us do.
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And so, how did
you guys get to 3ABN
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in the first place?
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You want me to start
or you want to start?
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Yeah, 'cause you came first.
Oh, that's true, okay, so.
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So yeah, I came
as a college intern
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in the fall of 1999.
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And I got to do stuff
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that I really had
not much experience
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and a little bit,
but this is television,
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I had done more ENG work
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which would be just like a
little camcorder back then,
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you know, like the VHS tapes,
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and go out in the
field, do stuff like that.
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So I came here was a
new experience for me,
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but they hired me on
during my internship.
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And so I've
been here ever since.
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So that's how I
came as a college intern.
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And I'll never forget
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some of my first
experiences here,
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it was actually in this studio,
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was a little bit
different set up then.
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But I remember I
was running camera
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and I did such a
terrible job running camera
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that the
director who's the person
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that punches all the
buttons and chooses the camera
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said, "Out of here."
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That may sound a little rude.
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They didn't say
it quite like that.
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They said, this was
during the production
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they said, you know what?
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"Why don't you just
come into the control room,
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we'll put someone else to
replace you on your camera,
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just watch how it's done."
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Terribly embarrassing.
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But it was good for me
too, you know, to realize, okay,
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there's a lot to this
and take my job seriously.
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But it was really a
tremendous experience here
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and has been, continues to be.
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And he graduated from
that and did other stuff,
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so the camera work got good.
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Yes. Yes.
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Oh, yeah, it just takes
time, experience, and training.
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Yes. Yeah.
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And it's
interesting because it's like,
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you know, there's a program
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where a boss goes
undercover and things like that.
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And I've seen
where they've been fired
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or let go from
the boss's positions,
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but, you know, now
I'm looking at you,
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and you're the
production manager,
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and the general vice
president, and all that stuff,
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so that's exciting.
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When I came to
3ABN, that was not my goal
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'cause when I
really came, I actually,
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when I first
started out I was sweeping,
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you know, there's
always little dust bunnies
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and little dead
bugs, you know, just stuff,
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you know, little dust and stuff.
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And so that's what I
did, I swept in the studios,
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and then moved to camera,
and just progressed from there
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and you just,
basically the goal is,
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Jason, in life,
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in my opinion, our
opinion is to just again
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lay your life before God
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and say, "God, what
would You have me do.
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Whatever that is, then do it
with the best of your ability.
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Not for man, but
you do it for God.
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So if Jesus were
right there beside me
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and I'm sweeping in the corner,
"Okay, God's right there.
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What You'd want me to do?
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You don't sweep
the dust under a wall,
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put it into a dust pan,
put in the trash, do your best.
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Yeah, it's philosophy.
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Amen. More biblical.
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Yeah, that's a
great philosophy to have.
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And how did you get here, Jill?
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I moved here because of Greg.
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Okay. Yay!
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That's a good reason.
That's a great reason.
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It's a good reason
to move to a place,
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now I knew about 3ABN.
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I would say I
was not as passionate
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about the ministry
as of course I am now
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just because I
wasn't as familiar with it.
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But I moved here, he proposed,
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and when we got
married, I moved here.
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And that was in 2002.
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And I said, you know,
this is how God works.
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I remember telling Greg,
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"Well, I'm trained
as a high school teacher
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and that was my education,
that was my background.
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I need to teach high school."
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And we didn't even have
a high school at that point
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and our church
school has had a high school
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through the years sometimes.
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But at that point
there was no high school.
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And I said, "So what
am I supposed to do?"
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And we prayed about it.
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And it was like, well, if God
brought us together as a couple
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which we believed
beyond a shadow of a doubt.
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And we had peace in
our hearts knowing that,
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you know, God had
called us together.
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Well then, God's
going to take care of this
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and God knows what
I'm supposed to be doing,
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so there was such peace in that.
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And when we first moved here,
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I actually
worked for Miss Mollie.
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She was our general
manager and vice president.
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And I worked for
her for some time
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and then I felt in
my heart just a calling
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to work with the
kids at the school.
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And so I went and I
did that for 10 years.
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I taught music
lessons for the kids.
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We had a little
bell choir tone chimes.
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We did piano lessons
with the kids, a little choir,
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even though I
don't claim to sing.
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But still I can wave
my arms around and direct.
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And as I reached the
end of that time there,
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I just felt a pull in my heart
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that I was supposed to
work full time in the ministry,
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not that the other
wasn't wonderful ministry.
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And I think God brings
us through seasons in life.
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You know, that was the
season God wanted me to learn,
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God wanted me to grow
and experiencing there.
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And then it was like
this pull in my heart,
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you know, I was so passionate
about what God is doing
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in the ministry at 3ABN
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and the lives
that are being touched.
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And to think, wow,
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you know I can
have a part in helping
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to change lives
around the world,
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and so I wanted to do that.
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But we don't want
to run ahead of God.
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You know, what if
God didn't want that.
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What if this
was my own thinking.
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And so Greg and
I prayed about it.
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And we said, "Okay, God,
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if you want me to
work at 3ABN again,"
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'cause I had
worked few years before.
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If you want me to
work at 3ABN again,
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then, God, You make
it abundantly evident.
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You have someone
at 3ABN approach me.
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And so we prayed
that for two years.
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Now Greg said, "No
one's going to ask, Jilly,"
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because during
this intervening years,
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Mollie had asked
several occasions
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and I had always said no.
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I'm called to
work with the kids,
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so why would she come back again
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because she'd already
asked and I had said no,
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so there's no
reason to ask again.
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And then one day I
was in seeing Mollie,
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asking about something and
she leaned across the desk,
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you know, how Miss Mollie
would sit across the desk.
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Yes, yes.
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And she would say, and
she said, "Jill, you know,
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my dream for this
ministry has always been
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that you would
come and that you would,
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you know, work
in this ministry."
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And she said, "I know
you're going to tell me now."
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And I said, actually
this time I'll tell you yes
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'cause that was what
we had been praying for.
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And she was like, "Oh, okay,
then we will get you to work."
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And I started, you know,
within just a couple weeks.
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And that's after
two years of praying.
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Yeah, just
praying. That's faithful.
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That is faithful.
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Two years of praying
and then it was your time.
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Yeah, that's right. God
knew everything so, yeah.
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Amen.
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And so what roles
have you held, Greg?
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You've had a lot of
hats since you've been here.
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Well, as you know, you know,
this is a faith-based ministry,
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so at times we feel a
bit understaffed at times,
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and so, you know, we can
wear multiple hats at one time.
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But yeah, really starting
out in the studios at the Uplink
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which was the original building,
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that's where I started out
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running camera and, of
course, cleaning floors,
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we worked in some
lighting, did some video
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which is basically
you're adjusting the cameras
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in the control room, you know,
for color and stuff like that.
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And, you know, went on
the road crew for a while
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when the truck was
out traveling a lot,
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we would travel well
over 200 days a year.
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Wow! Did a lot of traveling.
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That was a real
blessing as well.
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Then we got married
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and I didn't want to
travel on the road and...
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That is understandable.
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Yes, and they
offered me another position
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here in
production, but I said no,
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there is another
position at the call center,
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so I went to the call
center and we had a print shop,
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and I oversaw the print shop.
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We printed the lot of material,
and I was there for a while.
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And then the
opportunity opened up
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to oversee the call center
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as, yeah, the
building and everyone in it,
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so I did that for a while.
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And then an
opportunity opened up
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to become production manager,
so I am currently doing that.
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And then, yeah, the
general vice president
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was added to this
and so, here I am today.
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Nice.
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Yeah, all part
of God's plan, so...
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That's right. To do
what He wants us to do.
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That's right.
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So, now, this is a
very interesting question
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because things are so
different here at 3ABN.
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What's a typical day
like in your lives at work?
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Oh, why don't
you start with that?
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I think... Busy.
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There is no typical
day, really, here at 3ABN...
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To me, I love this.
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This is something
we pray with the ladies
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we have worship in the morning.
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And I almost, always pray this,
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"God, thank you
for the privilege
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of coming into
work at a ministry
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that is life changing value."
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So to me,
whatever we're involved in
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during that day,
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it has something to do
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with helping to
spread the gospel.
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You know, helping to spread
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that undiluted
three angles' messages
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to a lost and dying world,
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and that's what this
ministry is all about.
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Everyone who works here,
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whether you're
cleaning on toilet,
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whether you're running a camera,
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whether you're
pushing a pencil in accounting
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and handling that,
answering the phone,
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every person has a part
in spreading the gospel.
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Amen.
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My day would be very
weary, there is meetings,
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there is many
different urgent deadlines.
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So we say, "Oh,
this is a deadline.
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Oh, no, this needs to,
you know, is a deadline."
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Yeah, I would say
there's a lot of meetings,
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there's a lot of management
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with the
different general managers
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with the different networks,
with the different team.
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Our team here,
there is approval process,
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dealing with finances,
dealing with other things.
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Yeah, a lot of different things.
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Yes.
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There is printing
there, I mean, everything.
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Yeah, a lot of different things.
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It's amazing how you
guys keep up with all that.
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Variety, and this one, Jason,
I think that's what I enjoy
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'cause we know we come to
work with an agenda so to speak
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what we want to do.
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And sometimes I'll
think about my agenda
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at the end of the
day, saying, "Well,
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nothing was really checked off
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and there's a
bunch more added to it,"
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but yeah, we had
a really busy day
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doing a lot of other things
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that we weren't
quite prepared to do.
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But I think we
have a great team here.
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We do.
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I really enjoy working
with production team that,
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you know, we got them
right here on camera now
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and in the control
room, it's a great team.
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Really fun and
I like that a lot,
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that variety is fantastic.
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Then you have the
administrative parts of it,
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that's neat and
has its own challenge
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and a great group staff
we have here, fantastic.
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You were saying
something else. I agree on it.
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Oh, go ahead, Jill.
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I was just gonna say,
I think that hands down
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we have the best,
most creative talented
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and gifted
hardworking people in the world.
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You know, our team is
the best. Very talented.
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I don't mean that
in a prideful way,
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it's what God has
brought to this ministry.
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Yes.
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And the people
who work here, I mean,
00:17:45.99\00:17:47.33
we're so blessed to
work with such a great team.
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Yes, and when you
talk to each one of them,
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they all have a different
story on how they ended up here,
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and that's all inspiring.
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That's definitely inspiring.
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Also, you know,
speaking of our team,
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they all go above and
beyond to get the job done,
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and not just get the job
done but get it done well.
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They take pride in their
work which is so important.
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It is.
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So have you always
been Seventh-day Adventist?
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I have.
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Yeah, I was raised
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in a Seventh-day
Adventist Christian home.
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Okay, what about you,
Jill? Yeah, I was as well.
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Although, I
think you can be raised
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in a Seventh-day Adventist home
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or any Christian home
and still not know Jesus.
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Yes. That is true.
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And that was my experience. Yes.
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When I grew up, I
went to church on Sabbath
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because "that's
what I was told to do."
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Okay.
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You know, I wanted
to be a good person,
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I wanted to be a Christian,
I just didn't know how.
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I had never experienced
Jesus in my heart or in my life.
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I remember one
time when I was 13,
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going through a
really hard experience,
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and just really rebelling
as it were against my parents,
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against the authority, saying,
you can't tell me what to do
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to run my own life,
and I'll do my own thing.
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I was
associating with some friends
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that my parents
were concerned about
00:19:06.81\00:19:08.84
and they said, "Please,
cut off this association,
00:19:08.88\00:19:11.48
it's pulling you."
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You know, they could
see the change in me.
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And, you know, I'm thinking,
I don't want to do that,
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I want to do my
own thing, all of that.
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And I remember
writing in my journal,
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"God, you're fake."
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Yeah.
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"Christianity
doesn't seem to work.
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I read miracle
stories in the Bible.
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I have not seen miracles happen.
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I don't think I
want to follow You."
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Yeah.
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And so I wrote that,
"God, I'm walking away."
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And six months
later, that's a long story,
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but six months later,
00:19:44.91\00:19:47.22
a life
transformational experience
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happened in our home
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and that is God
got a hold of my mom
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and she would tell
you, this is not a secret.
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And that my mom met
God for the first time
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and the change in my mom's
life was like night and day.
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It was so earth shattering
and I would lie awake at night
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thinking what
happened, "Why is she different?
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Why did she not
react the way she used to?"
00:20:11.41\00:20:13.88
And I remember, I
would devise plans
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to push her buttons
00:20:16.64\00:20:18.35
so that I'd see
if she is genuine.
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Yes.
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And so the next day,
you know, do something
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that normally
would get her upset,
00:20:22.98\00:20:25.02
now she wouldn't.
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And so, finally, I
said, "What's the difference?"
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And she said, "It's Jesus." Wow!
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If you want it, Jilly, I
can introduce you to Him too.
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And so that was the
time when I decided,
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I want to follow
Jesus for myself.
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Wow.
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So that was your
genuine conversion experience.
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Wow.
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What about you,
Greg like when...
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That's powerful, Jill.
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What about you when you were
walking with the Lord, I mean,
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you know, you grew up
in the SDA home but...
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Very much so.
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What was the
conversion experience for you?
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You know, mine wasn't, I
consider Jill's, there's,
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you know, very
dramatic, you know,
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especially when you
have people going from like,
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let's say drugs to
rise and stuff like that.
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You know, in
Jill's experience mind,
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I don't have
one quite like that.
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Mine was just really a
progress, I guess, just as...
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It's when I got to
school, I think would have been
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one of the challenges in my life
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was that there was some
people I've been looking up to
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and they were "failing
me" so to speak as leadership.
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And this would
be my college years
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and that is when
I told my father,
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you know what,
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they're supposed
to be doing this thing
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and they're
doing something else.
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They're telling me this,
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but they're
doing something else.
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You know, I
don't... I'm done with this.
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I think I'm done
with the churches
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in the Adventist church.
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And my dad told
me, he said, "Son,
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as your father
I have failed you,
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and I'm your dad, I love you.
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Other people are
going to fail you,
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never look to
anybody, human being,
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me as your father, leadership
and we're church, whatever,
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look to Jesus Christ
'cause He will never fail you."
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That's good word.
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So don't say,
"Oh, Dad failed me,"
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so I'm out of here or
pastor, whoever else, you know,
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they're letting me
down, they're hypocrite.
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Yeah, my dad said,
"Son, don't do that."
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So that was one of those where
I was on that, kind of that,
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I don't know, I think I'm
done with the Adventist church,
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I'm out of here.
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I was kind of
wavering back and forth.
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So that probably would
have been my experience,
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so by Him giving me that
wonderful counsel was like,
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you know what,
"You're right, Dad,
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let me work on building my
relationship with Jesus..."
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Yes.
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"And I'll do my
best as a human being
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but still look to
Christ as my example."
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Amen.
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I think that's important
because you see a lot of people
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that do leave the church
because they're following man
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and not Christ in
that sense, you know,
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they're looking up to somebody
as if they're infallible,
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but we as human beings
are frail, we're frail.
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We are.
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You know, I think
the Christian walk
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is a journey.
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Yes.?
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You know, it's not
that, okay, we start today
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and then we just
sit back and we relax.
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So I guess what I'm saying is,
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it's a journey of
discovering Jesus.
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It's a journey of finding out
more who He is and even today,
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I learn more about Him,
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and I discover more of His love.
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And it's a journey
of exploring His Word
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and finding out the
promises that we can claim
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that are ours in Christ Jesus.
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I mean, that He
calls those things
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that are not as though,
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they were one of
my favorite scriptures
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in 2 Corinthians 5:17,
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"If anyone is in Christ,
he or she is a new creation.
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Old things have passed away,
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and all things have become new."
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And whether we feel
that we are a new creation,
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the Word of God says we are.
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And when we submit
our lives to Jesus,
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He's the one who's responsible
to create that new creation,
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create that new heart in us.
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And as I think
through my own journey,
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I mean, even
coming here to 3ABN once
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I experienced the faith
walk of working in a ministry
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that's entirely
dependent on donations.
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Yes.
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And I thought, "Oh, I
have a measure of faith
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'cause God gives every
man a measure of faith."
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But
experiencing from day to day,
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Lord, we don't know
00:24:06.11\00:24:07.44
where the money is
coming for this bill.
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How we're going to
make payroll this week?
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And then watch God
work miracle after miracle.
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And money come in when
we don't even expect it.
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It's a journey in faith
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and that has been an
incredible experience.
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Amen.
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And that you segued
right into my next question
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which was like
what type of miracles
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have you guys seen
since working here?
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Well, many.
00:24:32.73\00:24:34.37
I know that when I
was on the road crew,
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there's when you
do a lot of travel,
00:24:36.84\00:24:38.77
a lot of safety
00:24:38.81\00:24:40.14
things where I could see
God's hand with us in that,
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you know, traveling along,
00:24:41.98\00:24:43.45
there were,
accidents were avoided
00:24:43.48\00:24:44.88
or if there was a minor accident
00:24:44.91\00:24:46.25
it could have been much worse,
00:24:46.28\00:24:47.62
so God watching out
for us along those lines.
00:24:47.65\00:24:49.68
Jill's mentioned
like the finances,
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that's amazing too
00:24:51.15\00:24:52.69
where you're in some discussions
00:24:52.72\00:24:54.06
on some of it,
what do we do here
00:24:54.09\00:24:56.29
and then like Jill said,
00:24:56.32\00:24:57.73
money that's not
expected comes in
00:24:57.76\00:25:00.13
which goes all the way back,
00:25:00.16\00:25:01.60
you know, Mr. Danny Shelton,
you know, the founder of 3ABN
00:25:01.63\00:25:04.87
that's how they built the road
00:25:04.90\00:25:06.94
was five gallons of
diesel fuel at a time.
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So even 34 years later,
it's still the same way,
00:25:09.50\00:25:13.24
maybe not quite five
gallons of diesel fuel
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but still there are
bills that need to be paid
00:25:15.68\00:25:17.01
and God provides those
needs and so, seeing that,
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Jason, it's encouraging,
00:25:20.98\00:25:23.75
it's downright encouraging,
it's like, "Wow God,
00:25:23.79\00:25:25.89
You're alive, You're well,
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You're still
performing miracles today."
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And, yeah, I don't know,
to me it's very thrilling
00:25:29.92\00:25:32.76
to see God's hand at work.
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Absolutely.
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And we know that's
it's Him that's providing.
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That's the key, not
us. Yeah, absolutely.
00:25:36.90\00:25:38.37
You know, I've
heard stories for years
00:25:38.40\00:25:40.47
that Mr. Danny has told,
you know, this is the miracles,
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this is the story we
have many broken people,
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the DVD story of
some of those miracles
00:25:46.11\00:25:48.24
but that's only a
fraction of course
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of all the
miracles that took place.
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But I've heard the stories,
00:25:52.15\00:25:53.48
but it's another
thing to walk a story.
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You know what I'm
saying, there's a difference
00:25:56.82\00:25:58.15
between just sitting
and hearing a preacher
00:25:58.19\00:26:00.86
or hearing someone
who's experienced it
00:26:00.89\00:26:02.86
and you say, "Wow,
that's a walk with God.
00:26:02.89\00:26:05.56
Wow, that's incredible."
00:26:05.59\00:26:07.36
But then, when
you had an experience,
00:26:07.40\00:26:10.40
and when you went
through with certain journey
00:26:10.43\00:26:12.93
and you saw the
miracles take place firsthand,
00:26:12.97\00:26:17.87
that does so much
more to build faith.
00:26:17.91\00:26:20.14
I mean, it's an
incredible journey
00:26:20.18\00:26:21.71
and that's the journey
God wants for all of us,
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not to have a second
hand religious experience,
00:26:24.11\00:26:27.38
where I just rely
on Greg's experience
00:26:27.42\00:26:29.58
which is a powerful experience,
00:26:29.62\00:26:31.52
but I have to have my own walk,
00:26:31.55\00:26:33.05
my own experience with Jesus.
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I'll taste and see
that the Lord is good.
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Yeah, you can't taste through
somebody else's taste bud.
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That's right. I
like that. That's true.
00:26:40.43\00:26:42.36
Oh, yeah, that's excellent.
00:26:42.40\00:26:44.33
What advice would you
have to that young person
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that wants to get
involved in ministry?
00:26:47.57\00:26:51.87
Well, yeah,
that's a big question.
00:26:51.91\00:26:54.08
I'll just from my own experience
00:26:54.11\00:26:55.44
I think, Jason,
whatever God has before you
00:26:55.48\00:26:58.38
is to do it with
all of your might.
00:26:58.41\00:27:00.48
And I think it's easy
to always look to say,
00:27:00.52\00:27:02.58
"Oh, I think over
there the grass is greener
00:27:02.62\00:27:04.29
and over there is greener."
00:27:04.32\00:27:05.65
You know what?
00:27:05.69\00:27:07.02
Focus on your
little plot of green grass
00:27:07.06\00:27:08.39
and do everything that
God has for to do there.
00:27:08.42\00:27:09.99
And also I think get
advice from, or get a mentor,
00:27:10.03\00:27:13.86
you know, those
that are older than you
00:27:13.90\00:27:15.23
with more experience,
that's always good too.
00:27:15.26\00:27:16.97
Absolutely.
What about you, Jill?
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Amen. I think that's
great advice, sweetheart.
00:27:18.37\00:27:20.27
Greg has a lot of
wisdom. I so appreciate that.
00:27:20.30\00:27:23.34
That is great advice.
00:27:23.37\00:27:24.71
I love that, "He who is faithful
00:27:24.74\00:27:26.51
in that which is least
is faithful also in much."
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So I think God calls us as
young people to get involved
00:27:28.81\00:27:32.95
to be faithful in the
work God has called us to do,
00:27:32.98\00:27:35.92
but also to be
involved in ministry.
00:27:35.95\00:27:38.65
You know don't
think, "Okay, well,
00:27:38.69\00:27:40.26
I'll sit back and
there's nothing I can do."
00:27:40.29\00:27:42.82
Young people can be
involved in the church
00:27:42.86\00:27:45.09
and they can be
involved in ministry.
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Amen.
00:27:46.59\00:27:47.93
And you know God
doesn't call the qualified,
00:27:47.96\00:27:50.20
He qualifies the called.
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Thank you guys
so much for coming.
00:27:52.80\00:27:54.14
Thank you, Brother
Jason. Thank you for being here.
00:27:54.17\00:27:56.27
And thank you for joining us.
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Join us next time and remember,
00:27:57.77\00:27:59.31
it just wouldn't be
the same without you.
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