Stay tuned to meet a
man who is mission minded
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and musically gifted.
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My name is Jason Bradley,
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and you're
watching Urban Report.
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Hello and
welcome to Urban Report.
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My guest today
is Kendol Bacchus,
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and he is passionate
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about utilizing his
talents for serving the Lord.
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Welcome to Urban Report, Kendol.
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Thank you, kindly,
delighted to be here.
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I'm so happy to
have you here, man.
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We know one of the
things that I've always wanted
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to be able to do
is play the piano.
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I had the opportunity
to hear you play the piano
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and I was fascinated.
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God has blessed you
with a tremendous talent
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and a tremendous gift,
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and it's incredible to
see you utilizing your gifts
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and talents and
returning those to the Lord.
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I want to find out a little
bit about your background.
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Where were you
raised? Where are you from?
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And how are you raised?
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Okay, well, I'm
from Saint Vincent
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and the Grenadines.
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Okay.
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Down in the Southern Caribbean.
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And I was born and raised
there in an Adventist family.
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I'm the fifth
child in that family.
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And my parents
were mission minded,
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literature
evangelists for a while,
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and for a long while actually,
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and so am I actually.
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And that they were
literature evangelists?
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I mean, I'm also mission minded.
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Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes.
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And, okay, so you were
born in the Caribbean, right?
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That's right.
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I know the food was amazing.
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I know, I love food, so.
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I know that the food was
absolutely amazing out there
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I would imagine.
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That is true,
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and I have the Indian
flavors as well in my family
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because I'm of
Indian descent, you see so.
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Nice, nice.
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And so you were raised
in the Adventist church?
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Yes.
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But somewhere in there,
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there was some kind of
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Hinduism intertwine...?
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What...? Well...
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How did that...?
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Yeah. Yeah.
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My ancestry goes back to India.
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And my ancestors
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came to the West
Indies as indentured laborers
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and so they were Hindu.
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But I'm... praise the Lord,
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third generation
Seventh-day Adventist.
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Amen. Amen.
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How did you get
involved in music?
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Wow.
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I think, I'd have to say
that music sort of chose me
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rather than I chose it.
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From as young as
I could remember,
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I was drawn to music.
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I was fascinated by it.
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I wanted to be able
to navigate the keyboard,
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you know, as a child
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and I wanted to
be able to reproduce
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stuff that I heard,
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you know.
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But it was the radio or
people singing in church,
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I wanted to be able to do it.
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And I would say that
God gave me the attitude,
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a spiritual gift
if you will for that.
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And He does that, you
know, with all His children
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but we have to work at it...
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Amen.
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And develop that.
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So I worked out
hard at my music,
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you know, and I found
much joy in doing that.
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How many hours
would you practice a day?
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Oh, well, growing up actually,
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I didn't have like
a set practice time.
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The piano was
there and in between
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whatever was going on,
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I will just jump on the
stool and found out something,
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you know, so that's kind
of how it happened for me.
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I didn't have formal
lessons like most kids would.
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Some, more or less self-taught.
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But my sisters play.
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I have four
sisters and three of them
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are proficient
pianist, church pianists.
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Wow.
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And so I grew up
hearing them, you know,
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I'll play.
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And so, yeah, you pick
up little tips from them
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and I stole their music
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and try to read
their music as well.
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So this is how
it happened for me,
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and I actually
had formal lessons
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for about two years,
two and a half years.
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Okay. Okay.
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So you play by ear
and you read music?
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Yes, that's right.
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Wow.
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And which one came first
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because I know that you said
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that like you used
to listen to the radio
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and people in church
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and you wanted
to be able to play
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what they were playing.
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Were you playing by
ear then or were you...
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Did you get their sheet
music and learn that way?
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For me they happened
sort of simultaneously.
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Okay.
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I would try to play
everything by ear first,
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especially before it was a piece
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that I heard my sisters play.
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So I will say it, I figure out
what the key is from the score,
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but there was
always a temptation
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to work it out myself.
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So it took some doing
for me to discipline myself
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and actually try to
play it from the score
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as it was written.
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And I saw value
in that, you know.
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You can do stuff by ear
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and I said this to
any talented musician,
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there are some
things that you just miss
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if you don't get
some music education.
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So I see them as, you
know, very important to produce
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what you want to produce.
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Got you. Got you. Yeah.
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And how do you
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tie in the
music with evangelism?
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Well, this is something
that I kind of consolidated
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the last several
years of my life.
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I always knew that...
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I always had a sense
that music was a powerful tool
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for worship, not
just for worship, however,
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but for bringing people,
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softening their
hearts to receive the gospel.
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But in recent years,
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I discovered Christ
method of reaching people.
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Okay, and I did
some missions overseas
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for several years
and that helped me
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to practice using that method.
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And I came to the conclusion
a few years ago that, you know,
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really, that's the only
thing that gives true success
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just like Ellen
White says, you know.
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So no matter how
much music we give people,
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it cannot replace
Christ method of reaching them.
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So I started to see that
I needed to have my music
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become some part of this
method of reaching people.
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So, yeah, music and missions
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is all about how
I use Christ method,
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but then how I use my hat
as a musician within that,
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and how I use my hat
as a missionary in music.
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Got you.
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All intertwined
together, you know.
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Yes.
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And God, you know,
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has led me on a
journey of discovery of that.
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Now, what are some of
the places that you've been
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in terms of doing mission work?
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Right, okay,
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so
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South Korea.
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Wow.
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Yeah, when I was
finishing my studies
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at Andrews University,
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I felt a call if you
will to do overseas missions.
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And I was
interested in East Africa
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and Thailand.
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I can't remember why, right now.
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And I didn't know
anything about those countries,
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but I prayed for
a call and one came,
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and it was very clear.
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South Korea is where
they wanted me to go.
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And I further prayed,
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so that things can
work out for me to go there,
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and they did work
out for me to go there.
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So I went there and I
intended to stay for a year,
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and I ended up
staying for 14 years.
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For 14 years?
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Wow! That's right.
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So that was a long
time to be in that country.
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But I would travel
out every now and then
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on holiday with
other missionaries
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to their countries.
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I would see that people
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coming from South
Africa and Australia.
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We had other missionaries
in Thailand, in Japan,
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and the Philippines.
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So we would go visit them
and they would come visit us,
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you know.
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So you got to experience
a lot of different cultures?
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I sure did.
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Yeah. Yeah.
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And so I would think
that as a result of that,
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you know, of that
experience, experiencing
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a lot of different cultures,
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and how they live,
and how they interact,
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like that only goes to help
you in the evangelism process
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because you're able to
reach so many more people.
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I really have a
thing for diversity.
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You know, recently
I ministered a church,
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and it was a very diverse church
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right here in the US,
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and I loved it,
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you know, because we had people
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from all different
countries present there.
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I think it's
something worth getting
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really comfortable with,
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you know, as
Seventh-day Adventist,
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the idea of diversity.
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You know, and diversity
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in terms of
religious backgrounds as well.
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I come from a Hindu ancestry,
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and I lived in
a Buddhist country
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for 14 years,
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and then I was in Saudi Arabia,
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so I saw what Islam was like,
you know, firsthand for a year.
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And I think all of these
things help us to be wiser
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and more informed about
how we befriend secular people
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with a view for
bringing them to Christ.
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Yes, yes,
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well, that is the
ultimate goal in mind too,
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yes. Yeah, absolutely.
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And I think if we
become more successful at that,
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we will become more successful
at embracing diversity,
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even music.
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Which is
important because and then
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heaven is going to
be a very diverse place.
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So, you know, we've been
talking about your music,
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and we actually have a
clip of you playing the piano,
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and I can't wait for
our viewers to see it.
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Let's go to that clip.
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Wow, see I knew you
were musically gifted
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when I heard you
play and now today.
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So that was a beautiful song.
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Thank you. You're welcome.
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So with the music,
with the evangelism,
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you also do evangelism seminars.
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Yeah, that's right.
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What types of seminars are,
like, what do they look like?
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Okay.
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The one that I'm most passionate
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about lately is a seminar
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about Christ's
method of six steps.
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You know, we've
had this methodology
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over 100 hundred years
ago, Ellen White wrote about it.
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We can find it in gospel work as
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Ministry of Healing, okay.
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Christ method of reaching people
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is the one that
will give true success.
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Okay.
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Now for our
viewers that don't know
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about Christ method,
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Bacch, what is Christ's method?
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Okay.
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So it says that
Christ mingled with people
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as one desiring their
good, and He met their needs,
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He sympathized with them,
and He won their confidence,
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and then He bade
them to follow Him.
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So that's the
method right there, okay?
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So I started to
realize that my music making
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didn't necessarily
mean that I was involved
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with the great
commission using Christ method.
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And a lot of
artists in the church,
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we function as
pianists or singers.
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All we do, the
technical work, audiovisual.
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Okay.
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But we don't necessarily
get into people's lives.
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Okay.
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But in Christ
method, which, you know,
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everybody is called to
do the great commission
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as long as they're
follower of Christ,
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it's not an option,
it's not a suggestion,
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you have to, Christ
asked us to do that.
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Absolutely.
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And so we could sometimes feel
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that our music making is enough.
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Well, I started to realize
that I had to get involved
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with these six steps.
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But then I further
discovered that as a musician,
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being involved
in these six steps
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was crucial to my
dependency on Christ
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because when we are involved
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in evangelism
using Christ method,
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we develop a kind
of dependency on Him
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that we can't
develop otherwise, okay.
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Now, that is
extremely crucial for artists
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because we spend our
lives trying to craft, you know,
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improve our craft,
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and to get better at what we do.
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And so it could lead
to a lot of introspection,
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a lot of...
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Even arrogance,
selfishness, you know,
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so that there lot
of proficient musicians
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in the church,
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but
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they don't always have
a heart for people, okay?
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So my seminar is about how
it's very important for people
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who do audiovisual, you know,
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people in the
booth, in the sound booth,
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and people who
are on the instruments
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and even on the
praise team that...
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Yes, that's great that
we do that in the church,
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but we also need to get involved
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in Christ method
of reaching people
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because that is
crucial to the characters
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that we want to build
for the kingdom, okay?
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And in turn that
informs our music making.
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We become more intentional
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about the kind of
music language that we use,
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musical language that we use,
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about the kind
of elements of music
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that we want to put out there
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because we don't
want the music to betray
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the very
message we want to give.
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Absolutely.
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And, you know...
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Nothing to contradict.
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Exactly. Yes, absolutely.
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You know, so I could be
saying something lyrically,
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but my music is
actually not supporting that...
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Or that message
can totally be missed
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because people are
enjoying the physical response
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or emotional
response to the music,
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and not really
indulging in the message.
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Now, emotions are legitimate
part of human beings, okay?
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And I think God values that
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'cause He wouldn't
have given it to us
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if He didn't, okay?
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But we have to see everything,
and the big picture, right?
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And on top of that, I
also found that as a musician
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with secular people,
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they are always
drawn to the idea
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that you are a musician
or you run sound in a venue,
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or you are behind the camera.
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So technical people
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and people who are involved
in singing in a praise team
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or behind an instrument,
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they have a tremendous ability
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to make friends
with secular people,
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and that's the first
step in Christ's method,
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mingling with
people in a caring way.
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Now, what you want is to
get a number or an email address
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because you're trying
to build a relationship,
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all right?
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I also started to see
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that we were very
sensitive people, okay?
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Musicians are very...
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Oh, just talking
about musicians, okay, okay.
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We are very sensitive people.
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So that allows you to have
the ability to really empathize
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with the pain of
other people, okay?
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So my main
seminar is really about
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how we use Christ's method.
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A lot of people think
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it's just for the
medical missionary people,
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but I'm trying
to show not that...
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No matter what
your spiritual gift is,
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you can fit it in
to Christ's method
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'cause
everything else will fail.
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And what we bring people
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to the church with is ultimately
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what we bring them to, okay?
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So if we are
trying to entertain people
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into an interest in Christ,
that might work for a while,
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but we want people to stay,
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and we want them to have
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an authentic experience
linking up with Jesus,
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you know, not
just come into a series
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and on the very
emotional altar call
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given to us of Christ.
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And we tick the box and say,
"Okay, we have these numbers."
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But then they don't really stay,
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and then we don't nurture them.
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Yes.
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And I think you just
hit the nail on the head
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that we don't nurture them.
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It's important when
these newborn babes,
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so to speak,
come into the church
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that we nurture them,
that we befriend them,
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that we get to know
them, and their families,
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and all that stuff, you know.
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Because it's just like
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when you introduce
somebody to Christ,
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how are you...
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People sometimes
hit people with doctrine
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before
introducing them to Christ.
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And so, if you don't
have that relationship,
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why would you do
this, that, and the third
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for someone you don't
even have a relationship with.
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So you've got to get to
know, I love what you're saying.
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I think we're getting better
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at understanding how this works.
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You know, the church has existed
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for quite some time,
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and we should
really take a hard look
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at what really works
and what our failures are,
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you know.
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So yeah, I agree. Absolutely.
00:20:00.06\00:20:01.66
So what are some
of the other seminars
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that you have 'cause I know
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that you do a
variety of seminars?
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Right.
00:20:06.17\00:20:07.50
One of the most recent
ones that I'm developing
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is about how you deal
with conflicts in the church.
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People who have convictions
about jewelry and other people
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who don't have that conviction
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that, you know, they say
you can wear them, you know.
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These are what
we call grey areas,
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I'm not really sure if
they're gray areas or not,
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you know, people can decide.
00:20:23.18\00:20:24.75
But I found in
Spirit of Prophecy,
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a lot of counsel about
how we deal with people,
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you know, in a very
tactful and loving way.
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And, you know, myself,
I'm learning to do that,
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you know, so
that's one of the seminars
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I'm developing at the moment.
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But before these two seminars,
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I've been doing
seminars on music and morality,
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music and human physiology,
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music in the context
of the great controversy,
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and musical
instruments in the Bible,
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you know, that sort of thing.
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Give us a little taste
of the music and morality?
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Okay, so there are
people that believe that,
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you know, music is neutral,
00:21:03.06\00:21:04.69
so you can use
any kind of music...
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Meaning without lyrics,
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so like music
without lyrics is neutral.
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That's right. That's right.
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Okay, what people believe?
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They see culture as
the overwriting factor.
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You know, if it's this
culture, then, you know,
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they should have
their cultural preferences
00:21:18.37\00:21:19.97
with the music.
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Well, while I think
culture has a big part to play,
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within every culture
because culture is manmade.
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There are fallen elements.
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Man is fallen, you know,
and God didn't exactly say,
00:21:28.58\00:21:32.42
"You have to have that culture.
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I gave you that culture."
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You know, these are traditions
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that came down
from our ancestors
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and they have a lot to do
00:21:40.03\00:21:41.36
with the religions of
our ancestors as well,
00:21:41.40\00:21:43.57
on what they
saw as normal, okay?
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So we have to take a hard look,
I think at the musical language
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that we use
especially in corporate worship,
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and for worship, you
know, and evangelism,
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and it takes a
little bit of digging,
00:21:57.58\00:21:59.85
you know, the
history of rock and jazz,
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you know, it's important I think
00:22:02.05\00:22:03.89
to have a look at
that a little bit,
00:22:03.92\00:22:05.99
you know.
00:22:06.02\00:22:08.29
So yeah, these
music and morality,
00:22:08.32\00:22:11.39
important stuff.
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How have you seen
music impact people?
00:22:12.79\00:22:16.16
Oh, yeah, definitely,
my first CD, Altar Call,
00:22:16.20\00:22:19.83
is because of
that impact, you know,
00:22:19.87\00:22:21.54
I wanted to take
people right back to the place
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where I'm
playing the piano for...
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At the end of a
night in a series,
00:22:26.37\00:22:28.94
and the minister
has just given a sermon
00:22:28.98\00:22:34.58
about a particular
aspect of Christianity.
00:22:34.62\00:22:37.82
And he's asking people to
make a decision for Christ,
00:22:37.85\00:22:41.76
you know.
00:22:41.79\00:22:43.12
And when words alone
00:22:43.16\00:22:47.00
might not be able to
soften somebody's heart,
00:22:47.03\00:22:51.00
you know, music,
00:22:51.03\00:22:52.43
because of the
way we process it,
00:22:52.47\00:22:53.97
you know, it can
bypass the center of reason
00:22:54.00\00:22:56.04
and go straight to
the center of emotions,
00:22:56.07\00:22:57.61
and we don't want to abuse that.
00:22:57.64\00:23:00.04
The industry knows how
to use that to get sales,
00:23:00.08\00:23:02.84
and a lot of musicians know
how to use that to get fans,
00:23:02.88\00:23:07.48
you know.
00:23:07.52\00:23:09.68
But we want to make
responsible use of that.
00:23:09.72\00:23:14.52
You know, there're
places in an Altar Call
00:23:14.56\00:23:16.56
where I would stop
playing completely.
00:23:16.59\00:23:18.33
Yes.
00:23:18.36\00:23:19.69
Especially during the prayer
00:23:19.73\00:23:21.26
'cause I really want people
to engage what's been set,
00:23:21.30\00:23:27.24
you know, and not confuse them.
00:23:27.27\00:23:30.31
Not confuse that
with a fuzzy atmosphere,
00:23:30.34\00:23:33.07
you know, where...
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So the responsible use of music,
00:23:35.14\00:23:37.61
and as I said, at my
first CD, Altar Call,
00:23:37.65\00:23:40.22
that I recorded in London
around the 2016 3ABN campaign.
00:23:40.25\00:23:45.02
Yeah, because
that was my next thing,
00:23:45.05\00:23:46.55
almost like, how
did you get here?
00:23:46.59\00:23:47.92
But before we get to that,
that song that we just heard
00:23:47.96\00:23:51.89
a couple minutes
ago, what CD is that on?
00:23:51.93\00:23:56.26
That's on Sojourn. Okay.
00:23:56.30\00:23:57.93
Which is an album
of Negro spirituals.
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Okay.
00:24:00.54\00:24:01.87
And that has to do
with human displacement.
00:24:01.90\00:24:04.94
I realize that
currently in the world,
00:24:04.97\00:24:07.34
we have the highest
incidence of human displacement
00:24:07.38\00:24:09.34
ever recorded.
00:24:09.38\00:24:10.71
Wow. Wow. Yeah.
00:24:10.75\00:24:12.55
So one statistic that I report,
00:24:12.58\00:24:15.12
that I read said
that 1 in 131 people
00:24:15.15\00:24:17.95
on the planet are displaced.
00:24:17.99\00:24:19.79
Guess what?
00:24:19.82\00:24:21.16
My ancestors were
displaced from India.
00:24:21.19\00:24:23.46
They were brought
to the West Indies
00:24:23.49\00:24:24.83
as indentured servants,
00:24:24.86\00:24:26.19
you know, which is another
00:24:26.23\00:24:27.56
fancy word for
slavery, actually.
00:24:27.60\00:24:28.93
Yes, yes.
00:24:28.96\00:24:30.30
But as a result, I'm
a Seventh-day Adventist.
00:24:30.33\00:24:31.87
Praise the Lord for that.
00:24:31.90\00:24:33.23
And this is exactly
00:24:33.27\00:24:34.60
what happened to the
descendants of slaves.
00:24:34.64\00:24:36.10
Yeah.
00:24:36.14\00:24:37.47
They got Christianity,
00:24:37.51\00:24:38.84
and so the only sojourn of music
00:24:38.87\00:24:40.64
I can think of on earth
that came out of displacement
00:24:40.68\00:24:45.81
and Christianity
would be Negro spirituals.
00:24:45.85\00:24:47.65
So I wanted to
present them again
00:24:47.68\00:24:51.72
not just as a
tag to black identity
00:24:51.75\00:24:55.19
or black history,
you know, or history.
00:24:55.22\00:24:58.29
But I wanted to show
that they're relevant today
00:24:58.33\00:25:00.40
to people who are displaced
00:25:00.43\00:25:01.76
because they speak
to the same brokenness,
00:25:01.80\00:25:04.67
you know.
00:25:04.70\00:25:06.03
That's deep.
00:25:06.07\00:25:07.40
And the solution
for that brokenness
00:25:07.44\00:25:08.77
is found in Christ.
00:25:08.80\00:25:10.14
So there are texts in the Bible
00:25:10.17\00:25:11.81
that talk about we are
sojourners on the earth.
00:25:11.84\00:25:14.31
This is not our real place,
this is not the real deal,
00:25:14.34\00:25:17.31
you know.
00:25:17.35\00:25:18.91
So that birthed
my album Sojourn,
00:25:18.95\00:25:22.02
so Deep River is
one of those spirituals.
00:25:22.05\00:25:24.65
Okay, nice.
00:25:24.69\00:25:26.02
And so how do people, if
they want to get your album,
00:25:26.05\00:25:29.59
how do they...
00:25:29.62\00:25:30.96
Where do they go to get it?
00:25:30.99\00:25:32.33
Right.
00:25:32.36\00:25:33.70
So Sojourn is a new release.
00:25:33.73\00:25:35.06
Okay.
00:25:35.10\00:25:36.43
People can go
to KendolMusic.com.
00:25:36.46\00:25:38.13
KendolMusic.com.
00:25:38.17\00:25:40.34
That's right.
00:25:40.37\00:25:41.70
Okay, and that's
K-E-N-D-O-L Music.com.
00:25:41.74\00:25:44.84
Okay. That's right.
00:25:44.87\00:25:46.71
And there they
can request the CD.
00:25:46.74\00:25:50.18
So they can
actually order Altar Call
00:25:50.21\00:25:53.48
from a link right there.
00:25:53.52\00:25:54.85
Okay. Okay.
00:25:54.88\00:25:56.22
And
00:25:56.25\00:25:58.99
they can write to me.
I live on St. Vincent.
00:25:59.02\00:26:01.92
So I'm not here in the
US physically at all time.
00:26:01.96\00:26:04.43
Okay, okay, you know.
00:26:04.46\00:26:05.79
And so if they want to
write to you, how do they...
00:26:05.83\00:26:07.53
Where do they write to?
00:26:07.56\00:26:09.23
Okay, so there's a
contact page on my website.
00:26:09.26\00:26:11.07
Okay.
00:26:11.10\00:26:12.43
They can also
reach me at Kendolb,
00:26:12.47\00:26:14.44
that's kendolb@hotmail.com
00:26:14.47\00:26:17.47
Okay. All right.
00:26:17.51\00:26:19.47
And how do they book you
for the evangelism seminars.
00:26:19.51\00:26:24.55
Do they go on KendolMusic.com?
00:26:24.58\00:26:27.22
They can do it there
through the contact page
00:26:27.25\00:26:30.75
or they can just email me.
00:26:30.79\00:26:32.85
Yeah, I'm easy to find.
00:26:32.89\00:26:34.72
I got you, I got you.
00:26:34.76\00:26:36.09
Now, in the short, in
about 30 to 45 seconds,
00:26:36.12\00:26:39.83
tell us how you made it to 3ABN.
00:26:39.86\00:26:41.56
Oh, well, so I was
in Australia on vacation
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and I met Sandra Entermann.
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Okay, she's very nice.
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Yeah.
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And we ended up doing
some music down together,
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we ended up in the studio
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recording four songs down there,
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and then she had an
appointment to come here,
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they needed a pianist.
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So I was brought onboard,
and then the next thing I knew,
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I was here at 3ABN
recording with her.
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Of course, there was a series
of events that led to all of,
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you know, in between,
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but I'm giving
the short version.
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Yes, yes.
Absolutely, absolutely.
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And then we heard
about you at Dare to Dream,
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and then we wanted to
interview you as well.
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So happy that you
could make it out here,
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and that you made it
safely, this was a long journey.
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And so thankful
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that you took the
time to come out here
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and thank you for
everything that you do
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for the cause of Christ.
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You're welcome, Sir. Yes.
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It's been a pleasure.
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Oh, praise the Lord.
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And we want to thank
you so much for joining us.
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You know, one
thing about ministry
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is there are so
many different avenues
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for you to get involved with.
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Take a look at the talents
that God has blessed you with
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and see how you can
utilize those talents
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for His honor and glory.
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Well, we've reached
the end of another program.
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Thanks for tuning
in. Join us next time.
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And remember,
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it just wouldn't be
the same without you.
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