Stay tuned to meet a man
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who is all about feeding
the needs in his community.
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My name is Jason Bradley,
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and you are
watching Urban Report.
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Hello and
welcome to Urban Report.
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My guest today is
Pastor Moses Brown.
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And he is the CEO and Founder
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of Feed Our Children Ministries.
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Welcome to Urban Report.
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It's so good to see
you, Brother Bradley.
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And it's good to see you too.
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Now you have a
powerful testimony,
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and I'm looking
forward to getting into that.
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But I want to start with, like,
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where you grew up and
go back into that part,
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the beginning
years of your life.
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Where I grew up...
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I'm a country boy.
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There in the city
called Plant City,
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and I presently live in Tampa.
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I went to school
there, Forest Lake Academy.
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And I just kind of been
around into natural environment,
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but that was through a process
that God ordained Himself
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with the things I
learned how to adjust to
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as I was going through
some of my crises in my lives.
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What are some of those
crises that you went through?
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Well, when I look
back at my crises,
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I always say it
was because of Christ.
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And He delivered me
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from some
catastrophic situations
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that have funneled
me into where I'm today.
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It started with a little
girl by the name of Cherry,
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beautiful young lady.
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She was a twin.
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She was born there in a city
called Manning, South Carolina.
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Okay.
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She came in the
late ages of her parents.
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And they had already
had some adult children,
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but they had the twins later on.
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And when they got about...
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I guess about seven years old,
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her parents had both
been dead by that time.
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So she had to move down
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to where her oldest sister lived
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there in Hallandale, Florida.
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When she got there,
it was a nice experience.
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She was growing up
in a good environment.
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They were still poor.
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But her sister was
married to a gentleman
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there in that area.
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And that's how
they ended up there.
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Coming along, she
remembered about going to church
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'cause her daddy
was a Baptist preacher.
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Okay.
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Old Baptist preacher would go...
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He was a monitor there,
they call into Baptist Church.
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He would kind of
oversee other churches.
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Okay.
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And she loved
church even as a child.
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That's why I tell people,
"Keep your children in church,
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church school if possible.
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Keep them under that auspices
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where they can always hear
the name of Jesus proclaim."
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Yes.
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So even while she was growing up
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into her teen years,
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she was attending church
even though she was a Baptist.
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But one particular day
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in August of her
life, it was hot.
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It's hot in Florida anyway.
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But in August,
if you ever go down
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in August, it's hotter.
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Okay.
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And there she was
walking home from church,
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and one of the deacons
that was there, pulled over.
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She was walking on
the sidewalk and said,
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"Hey, let me
give you a ride home."
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And in that point, she
was a little bit reluctant,
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but she decided that,
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you know, since he was a man
with authority in the community
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and in her church.
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She was 13 at that time,
and she said, "Okay, I'll do."
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Come to think of it,
when she was in that car,
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she was really somewhat panicky
because she felt uncomfortable.
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You know, you can
feel uncomfortable
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around some people.
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Yes.
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And he, all of a sudden, said,
"Let me take you to this house
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I want you to see
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'cause I'm building
this beautiful home."
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And she didn't
really feel good about it,
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but, you know,
when you're young,
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you just say,
"Okay, let me go and see,"
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'cause you want to amaze her.
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And she got to this house,
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when she went there
walking through this house,
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his whole demeanor changed.
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Really?
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I've learned that,
a lot of people say
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that he loved the Lord,
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even though he was a
deacon in the church.
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Yes.
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But when you are
under the satanic power,
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it will come out, and
your motives will show up.
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And so it was...
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The sin didn't
start in the house,
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it started when he
looked at her in lust
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before he even spoke to her.
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Wow.
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A lot of sins start
when you answer the phone.
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And this was a
situation that started,
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that had already built up.
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And so when he got to the house,
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he knew that, you know,
her parents were already dead,
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and she was
staying with her sister.
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And some people take advantage
of those vulnerable situations.
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And there she was in that house,
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and his whole demeanor changed,
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and he violated
that girl right there
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in that house.
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Wow!
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It was so much for her
to even digest at that time.
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Yeah.
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Few months later,
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it was hard to
even speak about it,
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but her twin sister said,
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"You know, you are
pregnant, you're pregnant.
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You're coming forth with a...
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This is not beans and rice."
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Yes. Yes. "This
is something else."
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And she revealed that experience
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that she had at that house.
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At that particular time,
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she was trying to
contemplate what to do.
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She wouldn't know
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how to even explain
it to her older sister.
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Yeah.
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But at that time,
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her older sister's
husband got into gambling debts,
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and he had to
leave town quickly.
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Okay. I mean, real quick.
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He had people after him.
Yeah, had them after him.
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This was some
stuff that you see on TV,
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but they knew they had
to get out and get out fast.
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Yes.
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They went from Hallandale
to a place four hours away,
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that place is called Plant City.
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Okay.
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And there's...
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She had already turned
14, and she had to decide,
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"Okay, it's time
for me to have my baby."
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Sister already
realized that she was pregnant,
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and she's due.
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And she told them that,
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"Listen, I know
you're getting close
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to having your baby, but
you can't handle no child.
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You can't, you can't...
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You got about a
couple months to go,
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but you can't handle no child."
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And they gave her
the ultimatum, said,
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"Listen, once you go down
under ghetto out there..."
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You know, they
always have somebody
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in the ghetto who can
take care of everything.
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And this person was known
to take care of abortions.
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Wow!
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So as she was
walking that particular day
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to fulfill the
needs of her sister...
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That's why you
got to be very careful
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who you allow to
influence in your life.
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That's very, very true.
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She was moving forward
and fulfill their need,
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but in her heart, she
said, "I want my baby.
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I want my baby."
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But
economically, it didn't add up.
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The economy
wasn't set up for her,
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and everything was
just going south for her.
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And so even
though she was violated,
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she still wanted her baby?
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She wanted her baby.
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That's amazing too
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'cause there's a
lot of different routes
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that she could have gone.
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And she had every...
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She could just
check off each box,
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and it will give her
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that right to abort the child.
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She had every right.
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You know, even the church
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would have gave
her the right for...
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Let's say, you know,
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"You were in a rape situation
and everything else is just..."
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Everything she could
think of was checked off,
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the child shouldn't have born.
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Wow.
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But as she was walking towards
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that house to dispense of
this child that she wanted,
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because there was no
other options laid out,
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she heard a voice speak to
her, and that text came to her,
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Proverbs 3:5 and 6.
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"In all your
ways, acknowledge Me,
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and I'll direct your path.
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Trust in the Lord
with all your heart,
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and lean not upon
your own understanding."
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Being a girl that loved church,
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she knew that that
was coming from God.
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But in that...
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She knew that He was
there, but she couldn't see
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how He was going to work it out.
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She hadn't had that much
faith to pull it through,
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to look beyond the barriers.
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She couldn't see anything,
but what she didn't have.
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And many people today,
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they're looking at
what they don't have
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instead of looking
at what God can do.
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She got trapped in
that little wedge there.
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And in that quagmire,
she heard another voice,
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"God will let you
know exactly what He want,
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so you won't
have to have questions
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about certain things."
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And He said, "If you
let Me have this child,
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I'll be His father."
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Right then, she knew
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that it was God's
will to keep that child.
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Wow.
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And that's why I tell people,
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you know, "If it's
God's will, it's God's bill."
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He never backs
out on His payments.
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He got A class,
beyond 700, 800 credit score.
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Come on, now. You
just check it out.
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And she knew right then,
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if God said it, it's
going to come through.
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She went back home, and
she talked to her sisters.
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And they expressed to her,
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"Listen, we gave
you the ultimatum
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'cause we can't
take care of baby.
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You're just a child yourself.
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How are you going to
take care of another child?"
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They said, "Now, if
you want to keep your baby,
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don't bring it back here,
you and the baby stay away."
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Wow!
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Because we can't feed
another child, diapers,
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and then have all
those systems in place.
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Now when you have a child,
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then you had to
pay for everything.
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Yes.
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And so she knew that
God had spoken to her.
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And so she had to trust Him
where she couldn't trace Him.
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So she stepped
into her faith realm.
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It was something about,
when you know God said it,
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you could be bold enough
to just move, move anyhow.
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You may have...
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Your whole
parameters may be on fire,
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but, you know, you
can walk through that fire
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if you know God is with you.
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Ellen White says,
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"You can go through
the desert or the sea,
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but as long as God is with you,
you're going to be all right."
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And she had a sea,
and she had a desert,
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and everything around and
everything was telling her,
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"You can't do it."
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But I've learned something,
Jason, that one thing if...
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You can have a million
people tell you you can't,
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you can have 10
million people say you cannot,
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but God would just
give you that one can,
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you can move on that.
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Yes. She moves
on that one "can".
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Wow. And she moved forward.
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She went to the
hospital to have the child,
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not knowing what
God was going to do.
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But while she was
there, the baby came out.
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She told to her
doctor, she said,
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"Do you know anybody
who can take my baby?
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Do you know anybody
in this city who can...
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I don't want my
child to go anywhere...
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Anybody that know Jesus."
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That's the type of her she was.
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And the doctor said,
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"No, I don't
want to get into this.
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This is something
for you all to handle."
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He was a Caucasian doctor,
nice person, Dr. Gatliff.
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But something
about, "When God speaks,
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He can move the hearts of king,"
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the Bible says.
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And He stepped into
the mind of that physician
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and reminded of
one of the patients
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he had that used to
bring kids to his practice
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because she was a
foster care person,
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she never had no kids.
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Wow.
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And he said, "Let
me check this out."
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And he called
Annette and Leroy Brown.
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Leroy Brown? Leroy Brown.
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And what was her
name? Annette Brown.
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Annette Brown? Okay.
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And they came down
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to the hospital on
his invitation and said,
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"This baby is here,
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and the mother
cannot take care of it,
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and she wants to go into a home
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with someone who's Christian,
and you came into my mind."
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And it was like an epiphany
came over to them and said,
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"This is your child."
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And they took the
baby up in their arms,
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and there they named
the baby Moses Samuel Brown.
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Wow!
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And here I am
today because of that.
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So I'm going to
give you the name Moses
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because I got you
out of the bulrushes.
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Yes.
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And they put the
story in the name.
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I didn't know I
was even adopted.
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They made sure you
had a biblical name too.
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Oh, biblical names. Yes.
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And for a while, they wanted...
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You know, later on,
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they wanted to change that name,
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and I'll tell
you about that also,
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because life can give you
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a twist.
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As a teenager, I had a twist.
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Twist that turned me around
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because when I found
out that where I was,
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was not the route
that I would have taken,
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because I thought I
was a Brown, B-R-O-W-N,
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not coming from an
adoption situation.
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Okay.
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So I grew up going through that.
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So you had to imagine,
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when I found out
that I was not a Brown.
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How did you find that out?
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Well, you know, you're going
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to have people
drop little things.
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When you're in the hood,
you know, everybody will say,
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"You know, I know your cousin.
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I know, you
know, a little thing."
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That's where we
talk about each other,
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and it was coming around.
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And then finally...
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Well, I met someone
who was actually my cousin,
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and they were going
to the same school I was.
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Like your biological
cousin? Biological, yes.
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And I had a lady
that used to come
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by the house and
give vegetables to us
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'cause she would sell produce.
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And she said, "Call me auntie,"
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and she would
give me stuff free.
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And I would bring it back in.
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And the mother
I was living with,
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she was Annette Brown,
she was grateful for that.
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I didn't understand,
"Who gives stuff free?"
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But she was
actually my mother's sister.
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Wow!
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So the stuff
was going around me.
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But I was happy to be a Brown.
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I had the most loving people.
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Leroy and Annette Brown,
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I couldn't ask for
better set of parents.
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I mean, they were handmade.
I kind of look like my daddy.
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My adopted daddy, so
it all kind of fit in.
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That's amazing how that happens.
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I actually know some
people who are adopted,
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and they look like their parents
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that adopted them.
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Don't God know how to shape it.?
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It's amazing. It's amazing.
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Well, I've been in there,
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you know, and I know
a lot of people going
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through the same situation.
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You get in these
quagmires of life,
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and you wonder
what you're going to do,
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and I became very
recalcitrant, I was indignant,
00:15:46.71\00:15:50.25
and I didn't
know how to handle it.
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How do you handle
trying to figure out
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that you're not who you are?
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Yes. Yes.
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And so I had...
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You know, I met my birth mother,
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you know, 'cause she
concluded the fact that,
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you know, in my head
that she is my mother.
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And I had to ask
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'cause she
didn't want to tell me
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the story of what happened.
00:16:13.57\00:16:14.90
Wow!
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And when I met her it was...
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It was just kind of...
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It did something to me,
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you know, I'm trying
to put all this together.
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Yeah.
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But it was so much...
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You know, something
about love, love is so strong,
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and the love of
my adopted people
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helped me and check.
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I mean, I learned to know that
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there's something
different, but it was something
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that really kind
of messed my mind up,
00:16:39.43\00:16:41.43
but I knew that
their love was genuine.
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Yes.
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But in that, I
begin to hate all of them.
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Really? And why is that?
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I hated them because I
felt that they betrayed me.
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Oh, by not telling
you that you're adopted,
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the way that you found out.
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I hated them
because they lied to me.
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And I didn't look at it...
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You know, my young mind,
00:17:03.69\00:17:05.09
I was around in my
early teens at that point.
00:17:05.12\00:17:08.02
And I've realized that it's...
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This didn't come together
like it was supposed to be.
00:17:09.96\00:17:12.33
"And I thought you
were to be a Christian.
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How come you never told me
00:17:14.66\00:17:16.43
that you actually
got me from the hospital?
00:17:16.46\00:17:18.93
It made it sound like
00:17:18.97\00:17:20.30
that you had me
in the hospital."
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Yes. So in that, I felt bad.
00:17:22.24\00:17:27.78
But then something
about the way the Lord does.
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He sometimes let
silence takes place.
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And one thing I
had to learn, Jason,
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never confuse God's silence
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for His absence.
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Unpack that a little bit,
00:17:46.59\00:17:47.93
because I get where
you're going with that,
00:17:47.96\00:17:50.27
and I like that,
and that's so true,
00:17:50.30\00:17:52.33
but unpack that a little bit.
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You know, when I
was running chaotically
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and being angry at everybody,
00:17:57.94\00:18:00.88
I didn't hear God speak to me.
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But the fact was He
had me in that silent mode.
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Okay.
00:18:10.22\00:18:11.55
You know, in the
scriptures Moses,
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before he went
up to Mount Sinai,
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upon the top of the mountain,
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he laid there in
silence for six days.
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And the Bible says,
"There was no interaction,"
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but he knew that
God's presence was there,
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but God was not speaking to him.
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But on the seventh
day, God called him up.
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And in my scenario,
I was there in silence,
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I was asking for answers.
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And suddenly God
just tuned me out.
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I had learned very
quickly that it was His silence,
00:18:47.82\00:18:51.33
but I had to learn
that it wasn't His absence.
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I was thinking
God was not present
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'cause He said,
"I'll never leave you,
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I'll never forsake you."
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And so He allowed
Himself to be there,
00:19:02.30\00:19:07.54
and He don't just move
because I want Him to move,
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He moves when He needs to move.
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It's like a scenario to
what I'm speaking about.
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When I was in school
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and raised my
hand during the test,
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the teacher refused
to answer my question
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because I didn't
raise my hand properly
00:19:26.26\00:19:30.77
at the proper time.
00:19:30.80\00:19:32.33
And I came back and asked
her, I said, "Why didn't you..."
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After the test was over,
00:19:35.37\00:19:36.71
"Why didn't you answer me
while I was doing the test?"
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And she said,
00:19:39.51\00:19:41.08
"That's the reason
why I didn't answer you
00:19:41.11\00:19:43.21
because it was during the test.
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So I gave you everything
00:19:46.41\00:19:47.75
you need to get
through the test,
00:19:47.78\00:19:49.12
and so when you take the
test, I could not answer you,
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you was on your own."
00:19:51.29\00:19:53.69
And sometimes God may not
speak to you during that time
00:19:53.72\00:19:56.93
because you're in the
test, because life is a set up
00:19:56.96\00:20:02.70
where you've got to
go through a process
00:20:02.73\00:20:04.77
to get to God's purpose.
00:20:04.80\00:20:07.97
One thing I've learned
00:20:08.00\00:20:09.34
that He cannot
get into your purpose
00:20:09.37\00:20:12.17
because God had
preordained that,
00:20:12.21\00:20:14.74
but He can get into the process
of you getting to your purpose.
00:20:14.78\00:20:18.41
Okay.
00:20:18.45\00:20:19.78
And so in that process,
00:20:19.81\00:20:21.15
we get discombobulated
with distractions
00:20:21.18\00:20:24.69
and Satan feeds us.
00:20:24.72\00:20:26.12
He was feeding me,
00:20:26.15\00:20:27.49
saying that I was
unworthy, I was nothing,
00:20:27.52\00:20:31.43
I was nobody, and I
couldn't be anything.
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How can you ever become anything
00:20:34.33\00:20:35.96
when you were a
child that was given away?
00:20:36.00\00:20:40.54
You're not even
supposed to be here.
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And so that was
processed in my head.
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"Well, if I'm not
supposed to be here,
00:20:45.21\00:20:46.54
how can I have a
purpose in my life?"
00:20:46.57\00:20:48.18
So you had all
these negative thoughts
00:20:48.21\00:20:50.31
that were just playing
over and over in your mind?
00:20:50.35\00:20:53.31
And He was having
a field day with it.
00:20:53.35\00:20:55.55
Wow! Satan loves pity parties.
00:20:55.58\00:20:58.45
Yes.
00:20:58.49\00:20:59.82
And if you give him one,
00:20:59.85\00:21:01.19
he'll roll on it and roll on it.
00:21:01.22\00:21:03.12
And then God
stepped into the point
00:21:03.16\00:21:05.26
when I felt like I
was at my very end.
00:21:05.29\00:21:07.90
He explained to me.
00:21:07.93\00:21:09.73
He said, "It was My hand
that put you in that womb."
00:21:09.76\00:21:14.67
That threw me back. Yeah.
00:21:14.70\00:21:17.54
In a situation
that's catastrophic
00:21:17.57\00:21:19.51
as that was because He
says, "I'm the life giver."
00:21:19.54\00:21:25.18
So even in that rape
situation, He gave the life.
00:21:25.21\00:21:28.18
Wow.
00:21:28.22\00:21:29.72
And He determines...
00:21:29.75\00:21:31.12
We may have ugly actions,
00:21:31.15\00:21:33.56
but He takes the mess
and makes the miracle.
00:21:33.59\00:21:37.46
I like that. Yes.
00:21:37.49\00:21:39.59
So He took that mess and...
00:21:39.63\00:21:42.56
And we try to fix
things that we cannot fix.
00:21:42.60\00:21:46.63
We try to do the
possible and the impossible.
00:21:46.67\00:21:50.31
God said, "You take
care of the possible
00:21:50.34\00:21:51.84
and let Me
handle the impossible."
00:21:51.87\00:21:54.84
And so when God was
working through this thing
00:21:54.88\00:21:57.71
and fixing my mind up,
00:21:57.75\00:21:59.75
He spoke to me and
said, "You know, I'm with you,
00:21:59.78\00:22:03.15
I have a purpose for
you, you're My child."
00:22:03.18\00:22:07.09
And He said,
"If you can trust Me
00:22:07.12\00:22:09.22
where you cannot trace Me,
00:22:09.26\00:22:11.13
and you take
what I've given you,
00:22:11.16\00:22:13.43
I've given you good parents
and everything that happened,
00:22:13.46\00:22:17.63
even from the time
00:22:17.67\00:22:19.00
that they had
to leave Hollandale
00:22:19.03\00:22:21.10
to move to Plant City."
00:22:21.14\00:22:22.47
He said, "That
was My orchestration
00:22:22.50\00:22:24.11
because there was Annette Brown
in Plant City to adopt you."
00:22:24.14\00:22:30.75
Wow.
00:22:30.78\00:22:32.11
And He put me
00:22:32.15\00:22:33.48
into a
Seventh-day Adventist home.
00:22:33.52\00:22:35.18
Wow! So they were Adventists?
00:22:35.22\00:22:37.19
Seventh-day...
00:22:37.22\00:22:38.55
They started a church there.
00:22:38.59\00:22:40.22
And they were strong
Seventh-day Adventists.
00:22:40.26\00:22:42.86
It's amazing
00:22:42.89\00:22:44.23
how when you look
back at your life,
00:22:44.26\00:22:45.59
you can see how God
00:22:45.63\00:22:46.96
has had His hand on
your life the entire time.
00:22:47.00\00:22:49.56
Yes. Wow.
00:22:49.60\00:22:50.93
And He never let up.
00:22:50.97\00:22:52.30
So you were in
this Adventist home,
00:22:52.33\00:22:54.40
and so how did that play
a part in your development
00:22:54.44\00:22:59.27
because you had
those negative thoughts
00:22:59.31\00:23:01.01
going through your
head and all of that?
00:23:01.04\00:23:04.08
How did you get out
of that? Forgiveness.
00:23:04.11\00:23:09.45
The simplicity of forgiveness
00:23:09.48\00:23:11.59
is the complexity
of people's lives,
00:23:11.62\00:23:14.59
because they have
held on to something
00:23:14.62\00:23:18.49
that they can't fix,
they can't understand,
00:23:18.53\00:23:22.13
and they can't move,
00:23:22.16\00:23:24.17
and they try to
use a lot of keys,
00:23:24.20\00:23:27.60
like it's only one
key that go to one door,
00:23:27.64\00:23:30.34
but you try to use
all the other keys,
00:23:30.37\00:23:31.97
but the forgiveness
key is the one that works.
00:23:32.01\00:23:36.58
And they try to
avoid all those things,
00:23:36.61\00:23:38.38
getting around of and...
00:23:38.41\00:23:40.15
And they don't
want to use forgiveness
00:23:40.18\00:23:41.65
because they know how
much that person did to them,
00:23:41.68\00:23:45.35
and they lied on me,
and they cheated on me,
00:23:45.39\00:23:48.69
and they walked away from me,
00:23:48.72\00:23:50.19
they're the reason why
my finances so broke up,
00:23:50.23\00:23:52.59
and the reason
I'm not at the stage
00:23:52.63\00:23:54.03
I should have been
and all these excuses,
00:23:54.06\00:23:55.96
and they have
never forgive them.
00:23:56.00\00:23:57.87
And some people
are in their grave.
00:23:57.90\00:24:00.14
And those who are
alive have not forgiven those
00:24:00.17\00:24:03.71
who are lying in their
grave and the devil uses that.
00:24:03.74\00:24:06.51
And I had to break
00:24:06.54\00:24:08.04
that yoke that was
holding me, choking me.
00:24:08.08\00:24:10.85
Yes. And I had to forgive.
00:24:10.88\00:24:13.18
First off, I had
to forgive myself.
00:24:13.21\00:24:15.02
You know,
there's a certain thing
00:24:15.05\00:24:16.38
you have to do
00:24:16.42\00:24:17.75
which is you have
to forgive yourself,
00:24:17.79\00:24:20.49
and then you can forgive others.
00:24:20.52\00:24:22.96
If I forgive myself, I
had to look at me and say,
00:24:22.99\00:24:25.63
"Lord, I'm not worthy
00:24:25.66\00:24:28.93
and because of Your
blood that saved me,
00:24:28.96\00:24:31.23
I am where I am."
00:24:31.27\00:24:33.27
And then I look around me
and when God can break me,
00:24:33.30\00:24:37.84
He can put me
back together again.
00:24:37.87\00:24:41.21
And in my
rejection, I found direction.
00:24:41.24\00:24:46.55
That's where I found it.
00:24:46.58\00:24:47.92
In my rejection,
God gave me direction.
00:24:47.95\00:24:52.25
He said, "I didn't
take this away from you
00:24:52.29\00:24:54.99
that so you could fail."
00:24:55.02\00:24:57.76
He said, "I
wanted you to have..."
00:24:57.79\00:24:59.69
Like He said in Jeremiah,
"I have great plans for you.
00:24:59.73\00:25:03.13
And for these plans
to come to fruition,
00:25:03.16\00:25:05.07
I had to take
you down this road."
00:25:05.10\00:25:07.64
I wouldn't be sitting here today
00:25:07.67\00:25:09.00
if He hadn't took
me down that road.
00:25:09.04\00:25:10.57
If He had not
taken me down that road,
00:25:10.61\00:25:12.77
I wouldn't be here today.
00:25:12.81\00:25:14.54
But He showed me that
in that process, He was...
00:25:14.58\00:25:18.65
Even though the
devil tried to get into it,
00:25:18.68\00:25:20.05
He said, "I still got a purpose
00:25:20.08\00:25:21.55
to all the setbacks
and dropouts and all that,
00:25:21.58\00:25:25.49
what looks like
failure was just a set up."
00:25:25.52\00:25:28.32
That's like, when you
look at the story of Joseph,
00:25:28.36\00:25:30.56
and Joseph was taken
00:25:30.59\00:25:31.93
and sold into
captivity by his brothers,
00:25:31.96\00:25:34.60
and then he
ended up running Egypt.
00:25:34.63\00:25:38.43
That is amazing.
Isn't God amazing?
00:25:38.47\00:25:41.07
Yes, continue. I'm
thoroughly engaged in this.
00:25:41.10\00:25:46.14
I've seen God
00:25:46.17\00:25:48.34
how He works in situations
00:25:48.38\00:25:52.45
where people have
dropped the bomb on...
00:25:52.48\00:25:57.32
I use that term
00:25:57.35\00:25:58.69
who have given up
on their children.
00:25:58.72\00:26:01.92
And there might be
00:26:01.96\00:26:03.29
some out there
today, just saying,
00:26:03.32\00:26:04.83
you know, your
children using drugs,
00:26:04.86\00:26:06.49
and they're out there smoking,
00:26:06.53\00:26:11.23
sleeping in
another people's sheets,
00:26:11.27\00:26:13.10
and you have decided not
to pray for them no more.
00:26:13.13\00:26:16.37
I want you to
know, pray for them.
00:26:16.40\00:26:19.24
God is not
through with them yet.
00:26:19.27\00:26:20.81
And sometimes
00:26:20.84\00:26:22.18
He had to take
you down that road,
00:26:22.21\00:26:23.58
for Him to get you
where He you want you to be.
00:26:23.61\00:26:26.11
Yes.
00:26:26.15\00:26:27.48
And through my
struggles, it gave me strength.
00:26:27.52\00:26:30.49
And I kept
pushing, I kept pushing,
00:26:30.52\00:26:33.02
and I could see God
right there in every movement
00:26:33.05\00:26:36.76
from my mother,
00:26:36.79\00:26:38.39
my adopted mother
and my birth mother,
00:26:38.43\00:26:40.96
it was like two
mothers working in sync for me
00:26:41.00\00:26:44.57
to be what I am today.
00:26:44.60\00:26:50.01
If one had to give me life,
00:26:50.04\00:26:53.04
and one had to
produce that life to make it
00:26:53.07\00:26:56.64
where God could use me.
00:26:56.68\00:26:58.58
Wow! And I'm grateful.
00:26:58.61\00:27:00.92
I'm grateful for
what I've been through.
00:27:00.95\00:27:04.02
When I look back over my life,
00:27:04.05\00:27:07.52
I said, "You know, God,
I couldn't do this myself."
00:27:07.56\00:27:11.23
And this has
brought me into other places
00:27:11.26\00:27:14.53
when I saw what
God has done for me.
00:27:14.56\00:27:19.07
I said, "I can't
just sit on my blessing."
00:27:19.10\00:27:20.70
No.
00:27:20.74\00:27:22.07
One thing about a blessing...
00:27:22.10\00:27:23.44
How you know it's a blessing?
00:27:23.47\00:27:25.27
If you cannot share
00:27:25.31\00:27:27.24
that blessing
with somebody else,
00:27:27.28\00:27:29.21
it's not a blessing.
00:27:29.24\00:27:30.58
Okay.
00:27:30.61\00:27:31.95
If your blessing can't be a help
00:27:31.98\00:27:33.62
to help someone else
00:27:33.65\00:27:35.18
who's worst off than
you is not a blessing.
00:27:35.22\00:27:38.15
Let me ask you this question.
00:27:38.19\00:27:39.89
Did you ever meet
your biological father?
00:27:39.92\00:27:44.19
I went down to Hollandale,
00:27:44.23\00:27:45.83
I was going to
Forest Lake Academy.
00:27:45.86\00:27:47.80
I was with the singing group.
00:27:47.83\00:27:49.86
And while I was down there,
my mother had told me his name.
00:27:49.90\00:27:53.90
I went through the phone book,
00:27:53.94\00:27:55.77
trying to find
this person's name.
00:27:55.80\00:27:58.61
And I was
calling all the Scotts,
00:27:58.64\00:28:00.48
last name was Scotts.
00:28:00.51\00:28:01.84
And when I got to
one number, they said,
00:28:01.88\00:28:03.45
"Well, that's Scott
you're speaking about,
00:28:03.48\00:28:06.15
we had his funeral
several weeks ago."
00:28:06.18\00:28:08.92
Wow. God blocked it.
00:28:08.95\00:28:12.29
Wow.
00:28:12.32\00:28:13.66
You see when God told my mother
before she got to that door,
00:28:13.69\00:28:18.53
He said, "I will be his father."
00:28:18.56\00:28:22.00
That would have
interrupted God's plan.
00:28:22.03\00:28:27.37
He has the sovereignty to know
00:28:27.40\00:28:33.17
when and when not.
00:28:33.21\00:28:35.51
And I was stunned.
00:28:35.54\00:28:36.88
I said, "How could it...
00:28:36.91\00:28:38.25
I'm just this
close to seeing him.
00:28:38.28\00:28:41.22
I mean, what is it that...
00:28:41.25\00:28:42.75
Why would God do
something like that?"
00:28:42.78\00:28:44.85
I said, God, but
it was His providence
00:28:44.89\00:28:47.96
that would work out.
00:28:47.99\00:28:50.26
And so that was
the closest I got.
00:28:50.29\00:28:53.53
Later on, down the
road, just a few years back,
00:28:53.56\00:28:57.20
I met some
family members of his.
00:28:57.23\00:29:01.70
Oh, how did that go? Beautiful.
00:29:01.74\00:29:04.47
Really? Beautiful.
00:29:04.51\00:29:05.84
I went back to that
church where he used to go.
00:29:05.87\00:29:09.44
And Ebenezer Missionary
Baptist Church there...
00:29:09.48\00:29:11.71
In Atlanta?
00:29:11.75\00:29:13.08
No, Ebenezer in
Hallandale. Oh, in Hallandale.
00:29:13.11\00:29:15.15
Okay, I was going to
say, "Wait a minute,"
00:29:15.18\00:29:17.25
Oh, you never said
you were in Atlanta.
00:29:17.29\00:29:19.19
Okay.
00:29:19.22\00:29:20.56
Now, this was the...
00:29:20.59\00:29:21.92
It's a big church down
there, but he went there.
00:29:21.96\00:29:23.93
And I told the preacher, I
said, "You know, anyone..."
00:29:23.96\00:29:26.70
'Cause he was head deacon
of the church in that time.
00:29:26.73\00:29:30.37
And they said, "Well, I
know this lady over here,
00:29:30.40\00:29:32.07
she knows everybody's business."
00:29:32.10\00:29:33.97
You know, there's
got to be one person...
00:29:34.00\00:29:35.34
There's always
one. That's right.
00:29:35.37\00:29:37.34
And thank God, for
someone in there that knows.
00:29:37.37\00:29:39.24
That's right.
00:29:39.27\00:29:40.61
And he got with
there, and she got with me,
00:29:40.64\00:29:42.81
and she said, "Yes,
I know Deacon Scott.
00:29:42.84\00:29:45.98
And matter of fact,
00:29:46.01\00:29:49.28
one of his first
cousin's wife is my beautician."
00:29:49.32\00:29:53.49
Wow!
00:29:53.52\00:29:54.86
They were living
there in that area also.
00:29:54.89\00:29:57.09
Okay.
00:29:57.13\00:29:58.96
And that's when
the connection was made
00:29:58.99\00:30:02.03
with that side of the family.
00:30:02.06\00:30:03.43
They had no clue that
this was even existing,
00:30:03.47\00:30:08.80
a child from him.
00:30:08.84\00:30:10.67
Wow.
00:30:10.71\00:30:12.04
So I figured that God
wanted that to be different,
00:30:12.07\00:30:13.41
but it had been an encounter
00:30:13.44\00:30:15.58
that has been really
unforgettable experience
00:30:15.61\00:30:18.81
being with that
side of the family.
00:30:18.85\00:30:21.32
And when I make the circles
from all sides of the family,
00:30:21.35\00:30:23.95
because I have adopted
side, I have my birth dad side,
00:30:23.99\00:30:28.06
I have my birth mom side,
and every one of those sides,
00:30:28.09\00:30:33.09
God has
surrounded me with people
00:30:33.13\00:30:36.03
who are lovers of God.
00:30:36.06\00:30:39.77
And so I'm safe
in any environment.
00:30:39.80\00:30:43.51
Yes. Yes.
00:30:43.54\00:30:44.91
And so your mom never...
00:30:44.94\00:30:46.54
She never pressed
charges or anything,
00:30:46.57\00:30:48.68
like your biological mother,
00:30:48.71\00:30:50.05
she never pressed
charges, never pursued it?
00:30:50.08\00:30:52.78
Lot of the things like
that never have happened
00:30:52.81\00:30:56.65
in people's situations,
00:30:56.69\00:30:58.02
and especially in those times...
00:30:58.05\00:30:59.59
Wow!
00:30:59.62\00:31:01.79
It was just kind of...
00:31:01.82\00:31:03.53
She just mentioned it
to me, and she going on.
00:31:03.56\00:31:06.70
I mean, she was living...
00:31:06.73\00:31:08.20
I mean, she got...
00:31:08.23\00:31:09.56
To me, she was living
in an abusive situation.
00:31:09.60\00:31:12.60
Well, you know,
she was a teenager
00:31:12.63\00:31:13.97
trying to find security,
00:31:14.00\00:31:15.34
and when you're
broke, you got nothing.
00:31:15.37\00:31:17.21
You always...
00:31:17.24\00:31:18.74
Some men and some women,
they get together for finances
00:31:18.77\00:31:23.65
or someone
secured and she did...
00:31:23.68\00:31:25.75
She made a decision
00:31:25.78\00:31:27.12
that really wasn't on
principle but on need.
00:31:27.15\00:31:31.35
And she found...
00:31:31.39\00:31:32.72
She's got a man
that was beating her
00:31:32.75\00:31:35.29
and her children.
00:31:35.32\00:31:37.26
And with that, it made
00:31:37.29\00:31:38.63
a whole environment
of just chaos, chaos.
00:31:38.66\00:31:43.16
And she told me
when I met her, she said,
00:31:43.20\00:31:45.67
"If you had came
here, if you had came here,
00:31:45.70\00:31:49.97
he would have killed you."
00:31:50.01\00:31:52.57
Wow!
00:31:52.61\00:31:53.98
The father of my
other brothers and sisters,
00:31:54.01\00:31:58.15
'cause she had
three children from there.
00:31:58.18\00:31:59.75
Okay. And they
went through a lot.
00:31:59.78\00:32:02.68
And, you know, there
are some women today,
00:32:02.72\00:32:04.82
and I'm speaking to women
that's in abusive situations.
00:32:04.85\00:32:08.69
And you wonder,
00:32:08.72\00:32:10.06
"Why I'm staying in this thing?"
00:32:10.09\00:32:12.53
My words to you,
get out, get out.
00:32:12.56\00:32:16.30
It's not worth you
00:32:16.33\00:32:17.93
being humiliated day after day,
00:32:17.97\00:32:21.37
sometimes it's
verbally and physically.
00:32:21.40\00:32:24.67
But it's hard.
00:32:24.71\00:32:26.34
And some Christian
Adventists people live
00:32:26.37\00:32:28.98
in abusive situations.
00:32:29.01\00:32:31.31
I mean, and they get
up in front of the people
00:32:31.35\00:32:33.18
in the congregation,
00:32:33.21\00:32:34.55
and they go home
and beat the spouse.
00:32:34.58\00:32:38.19
That's not God. No.
00:32:38.22\00:32:39.75
That's not God.
00:32:39.79\00:32:41.12
And I want to be sure
this audience understands
00:32:41.16\00:32:43.73
that's not God.
00:32:43.76\00:32:45.26
And if you need
help, find some help,
00:32:45.29\00:32:47.60
because that's not
an instrument of God.
00:32:47.63\00:32:49.56
God said, "The body is
the temple of the Lord,"
00:32:49.60\00:32:52.30
and you should not allow anyone
00:32:52.33\00:32:53.67
to misuse it,
beat it, or abuse it.
00:32:53.70\00:32:56.44
And if I said
anything today, get that,
00:32:56.47\00:32:58.97
and you may have to
pack up today and go.
00:32:59.01\00:33:02.64
But like I said
earlier, if it's God's will,
00:33:02.68\00:33:04.08
it's God's bill.
00:33:04.11\00:33:05.45
He will take care of you
00:33:05.48\00:33:07.98
when you step out
under His auspices.
00:33:08.02\00:33:11.29
But you got to make
that step. Yeah, absolutely.
00:33:11.32\00:33:13.76
Where God leads,
He provides. Yes, yes.
00:33:13.79\00:33:16.22
Definitely. Definitely.
00:33:16.26\00:33:17.59
Now shifting gears a little bit.
00:33:17.63\00:33:19.26
See that...
00:33:19.29\00:33:21.56
I like to get to know
the man behind the mission.
00:33:21.60\00:33:25.57
You know, now shifting
gears into what you're doing now
00:33:25.60\00:33:28.94
and what you started
"Feed Our Children Ministries",
00:33:28.97\00:33:33.71
how did that come about?
00:33:33.74\00:33:35.08
And what are you guys doing?
00:33:35.11\00:33:36.68
Feed Our Children
Ministries started in 1986,
00:33:36.71\00:33:39.91
a beautiful
year for many people.
00:33:39.95\00:33:41.85
Absolutely.
00:33:41.88\00:33:43.22
I have to say that's
a beautiful year for me.
00:33:43.25\00:33:47.12
And with that...
00:33:47.16\00:33:49.52
I started it when I
was doing some radio.
00:33:49.56\00:33:54.50
Well, I'd say radio commentaries
00:33:54.53\00:33:56.97
for the community
00:33:57.00\00:33:58.33
because they were
having an R&B station.
00:33:58.37\00:34:00.24
And the Lord said,
"Don't just go down there
00:34:00.27\00:34:01.64
and just ask them about
saying a few encouraging words."
00:34:01.67\00:34:05.04
And I was doing that, I
got the little community.
00:34:05.07\00:34:08.18
At the same time
00:34:08.21\00:34:09.54
there was a
shooting in the inner city
00:34:09.58\00:34:12.31
right in the parking lot,
and the kids watched the lady,
00:34:12.35\00:34:15.32
who is the manager
of the Davis Clinic,
00:34:15.35\00:34:18.09
get shot, begging for her
life, trying to get in the car,
00:34:18.12\00:34:21.59
it was traumatic for everyone.
00:34:21.62\00:34:23.43
And these kinds of things happen
00:34:23.46\00:34:24.79
in the inner city.
00:34:24.83\00:34:26.86
And the police department
actually would come out
00:34:26.90\00:34:29.13
and talk to the
kids that had watched it,
00:34:29.16\00:34:31.57
'cause they were traumatized.
00:34:31.60\00:34:33.60
And so when I came out there,
00:34:33.64\00:34:34.97
we were trying to
give them encouragement,
00:34:35.00\00:34:36.60
a lot of kids were coming out.
00:34:36.64\00:34:38.77
And one boy came to me and said,
00:34:38.81\00:34:40.38
"Hey listen, I like
to have one of those."
00:34:40.41\00:34:42.51
'Cause we were
giving snacks. Okay.
00:34:42.54\00:34:44.25
And it was near
November, and he said,
00:34:44.28\00:34:46.61
"Can I have one of those meals
that they have on television?"
00:34:46.65\00:34:50.69
I had never heard anyone
asking me questions like that.
00:34:50.72\00:34:53.25
And I said, "What'd you mean?"
00:34:53.29\00:34:54.62
I never heard a
phrase like that either,
00:34:54.66\00:34:56.09
a meal that they
have on television.
00:34:56.12\00:34:57.96
Well, it's Thanksgiving meal,
00:34:57.99\00:34:59.33
you know, people
sitting at the table.
00:34:59.36\00:35:00.70
People take for granted that...
00:35:00.73\00:35:02.06
People sit at a table,
00:35:02.10\00:35:03.43
and they have
this long spread of...
00:35:03.47\00:35:04.83
It was during Thanksgiving.
00:35:04.87\00:35:06.20
He wanted a Thanksgiving meal.
00:35:06.23\00:35:07.64
Okay.
00:35:07.67\00:35:09.20
With the...
00:35:09.24\00:35:11.81
Well, I don't know
what they all have on their,
00:35:11.84\00:35:13.31
you know.
00:35:13.34\00:35:14.84
Slashed ham, no ham,
00:35:14.88\00:35:17.81
but we would have
gave him some wham.
00:35:17.85\00:35:19.41
Yes, we definitely
don't swine and dine,
00:35:19.45\00:35:22.38
no swining and
dinning, absolutely.
00:35:22.42\00:35:25.35
I said, "You know,
what, we're going to do this."
00:35:25.39\00:35:26.72
I said, "You
invite your friends,
00:35:26.76\00:35:28.09
and I'll invite the
community to bring some food."
00:35:28.12\00:35:31.56
I thought he had
about 100 or so friends,
00:35:31.59\00:35:33.56
so we set up for
about 100 of them coming.
00:35:33.60\00:35:36.40
But he had more
friends than I could count.
00:35:36.43\00:35:39.20
It was about 400 some
people standing out there.
00:35:39.23\00:35:41.34
Four hundred and some.
00:35:41.37\00:35:42.97
Now if you go to inner city,
00:35:43.00\00:35:44.34
when they come out
with stuff like that,
00:35:44.37\00:35:45.71
they bring their
foil and Tupperware.
00:35:45.74\00:35:47.54
Oh, yeah, they are going.
00:35:47.58\00:35:48.91
They're leaving
with the gold plates.
00:35:48.94\00:35:50.28
If you know our people. Yeah.
00:35:50.31\00:35:52.81
They are not
coming just for that meal.
00:35:52.85\00:35:54.18
They are going
to come for the meal
00:35:54.22\00:35:55.55
that they are going
to have later on today
00:35:55.58\00:35:57.49
and the next day too.
00:35:57.52\00:35:58.85
Yeah.
00:35:58.89\00:36:00.22
And when the people I
was standing over with,
00:36:00.26\00:36:02.92
"You might need
to close this down
00:36:02.96\00:36:04.29
because you don't want...
00:36:04.33\00:36:05.66
You want no
excitement in the hood out here,
00:36:05.69\00:36:07.86
because if they
don't get all their food,
00:36:07.90\00:36:09.43
the people are
standing in the line,
00:36:09.46\00:36:10.80
they came out here to eat.
00:36:10.83\00:36:12.17
And you got the
media right here."
00:36:12.20\00:36:13.54
And they said,
00:36:13.57\00:36:14.90
"You don't want to
embarrass yourself like this."
00:36:14.94\00:36:16.54
And, then I just
think about this, I said,
00:36:16.57\00:36:17.91
"You know, I serve a God
00:36:17.94\00:36:20.64
that fed 5,000 or more
than I got on this table."
00:36:20.68\00:36:24.51
Yes. Yes.
00:36:24.55\00:36:25.88
With fish and
the loaves of bread.
00:36:25.91\00:36:27.65
And I said, "The same God
that was there, He's here now."
00:36:27.68\00:36:31.85
And I stepped
into that faith realm.
00:36:31.89\00:36:34.32
There's something about
when you step into faith.
00:36:34.36\00:36:35.92
It's not like
stepping in no other place.
00:36:35.96\00:36:38.29
You know that
God's presence is there.
00:36:38.33\00:36:40.33
That's why I start...
00:36:40.36\00:36:41.70
I've learned one thing,
00:36:41.73\00:36:43.06
I start pursuing God's presence,
00:36:43.10\00:36:46.84
and I found
that He will give you
00:36:46.87\00:36:48.90
His promise.
00:36:48.94\00:36:51.01
So when I started
pursuing His presence,
00:36:51.04\00:36:53.68
I used to pursue the
promise and not His presence.
00:36:53.71\00:36:58.15
But when I was
feeling His presence,
00:36:58.18\00:37:00.88
that's when the
promise that He promised me.
00:37:00.92\00:37:03.82
He said all His promises
are yes from the scripture.
00:37:03.85\00:37:06.22
Yes.
00:37:06.25\00:37:07.59
And so I had to
step in that realm,
00:37:07.62\00:37:08.96
that is a beautiful experience
00:37:08.99\00:37:10.59
when you are in
that divine realm.
00:37:10.63\00:37:13.53
And I said, "I know
00:37:13.56\00:37:14.90
this is God's
reputation, not mine."
00:37:14.93\00:37:16.83
Yes, that's on the
line. It's on the line.
00:37:16.87\00:37:19.07
I said, "Lord, whichever
way it come out is You."
00:37:19.10\00:37:21.87
Yes.
00:37:21.90\00:37:23.24
You'll learn that you
have a lot less stress
00:37:23.27\00:37:27.24
when you just put
it in God's hands.
00:37:27.28\00:37:28.98
And you truly, any program,
anything that you're doing,
00:37:29.01\00:37:32.31
anything that you plan to do,
00:37:32.35\00:37:34.15
you put it in
God's hands and say,
00:37:34.18\00:37:35.52
"Lord, this is Your reputation.
00:37:35.55\00:37:37.25
I did all I
could, now it's You."
00:37:37.29\00:37:40.26
When they went
through that line, Jason,
00:37:40.29\00:37:43.09
they came through and everybody
was looking and wondering
00:37:43.12\00:37:46.39
how I was going to run out.
00:37:46.43\00:37:47.76
I was walking around
just encouraging people,
00:37:47.80\00:37:49.43
talking to them,
00:37:49.46\00:37:50.80
because the media was out there,
00:37:50.83\00:37:52.17
and they want an
interview with me.
00:37:52.20\00:37:53.54
And 'cause I wasn't,
00:37:53.57\00:37:55.57
you know, I had no fear
at that particular time.
00:37:55.60\00:37:58.61
Love for Christ
will eradicate all fear.
00:37:58.64\00:38:02.34
And when you know
that He's spoken to you.
00:38:02.38\00:38:05.25
And, you know, He
said, "Go left," even though
00:38:05.28\00:38:07.62
everybody
telling you to go right,
00:38:07.65\00:38:08.98
but He said, "Go left,"
and you know it's God's word,
00:38:09.02\00:38:11.52
you can just drop everything
00:38:11.55\00:38:12.95
and just put a
smile on your face
00:38:12.99\00:38:14.52
because, you know, God got it.
00:38:14.56\00:38:15.89
You don't know
how it's going to end.
00:38:15.92\00:38:17.26
But you know He got it.
00:38:17.29\00:38:18.63
And you can
take Him at His word.
00:38:18.66\00:38:20.83
You can't take many
people at their word,
00:38:20.86\00:38:22.93
but you can take Him
at His word for sure.
00:38:22.96\00:38:25.77
The scripture say,
"Don't trust no man."
00:38:25.80\00:38:27.37
Yeah. Yeah.
00:38:27.40\00:38:29.17
But when He got...
00:38:29.20\00:38:30.54
When they got through,
00:38:30.57\00:38:32.74
He don't work
things just to impress you,
00:38:32.77\00:38:38.41
He work things to amaze you.
00:38:38.45\00:38:41.45
That's the kind
of God I serve. Okay.
00:38:41.48\00:38:43.62
And when they got
through, there was...
00:38:43.65\00:38:45.22
With all their tableware,
00:38:45.25\00:38:46.76
and our black
folks brought those foil
00:38:46.79\00:38:51.23
for that meal for the next day.
00:38:51.26\00:38:53.40
And I was thinking,
they're going to be just...
00:38:53.43\00:38:54.86
I'm going to get a few people,
and there was food left over.
00:38:54.90\00:38:59.70
Wow!
00:38:59.73\00:39:01.07
Food left over, and that's
when I got on my knees and said,
00:39:01.10\00:39:04.37
"Lord, I thank You."
00:39:04.41\00:39:06.07
Because He
authenticated my purpose,
00:39:06.11\00:39:09.04
and He was with me.
00:39:09.08\00:39:10.41
Yes.
00:39:10.45\00:39:13.01
Many times, some
people are struggling
00:39:13.05\00:39:14.78
because He hasn't authenticated
His word in your life.
00:39:14.82\00:39:19.09
But when God authenticate
that word in your life,
00:39:19.12\00:39:22.02
you can move forward.
00:39:22.06\00:39:23.39
That had propelled
me all the way to today
00:39:23.43\00:39:25.73
from that one experience,
00:39:25.76\00:39:27.10
because I know that
God, He will show up,
00:39:27.13\00:39:30.33
and He will show out.
00:39:30.37\00:39:31.70
That's right.
00:39:31.73\00:39:33.07
And that was
such a great witness
00:39:33.10\00:39:34.60
to all of those
people that were telling you,
00:39:34.64\00:39:36.71
"Oh, you shouldn't do this.
00:39:36.74\00:39:38.21
You definitely don't
want to get this excitement
00:39:38.24\00:39:40.04
going in the hood.
00:39:40.08\00:39:41.41
If you don't
have enough food for,
00:39:41.44\00:39:43.14
you know, all these
people," but God provided.
00:39:43.18\00:39:47.02
And a lot of programs
00:39:47.05\00:39:48.38
that people
start in their church,
00:39:48.42\00:39:50.15
if even they
don't go through it,
00:39:50.19\00:39:51.52
they have
calculated on their calculator.
00:39:51.55\00:39:54.32
Your calculator,
00:39:54.36\00:39:55.69
I'm going to you
something that you can do,
00:39:55.72\00:39:58.56
but God's calculator
show you what He can do,
00:39:58.59\00:40:02.86
and something
00:40:02.90\00:40:04.43
that you should be
doing in the community now,
00:40:04.47\00:40:06.60
so one of the things
that Feed Our Children
00:40:06.63\00:40:08.44
is trying to do is
to get a place for women
00:40:08.47\00:40:11.87
with their children
who sleep in their cars,
00:40:11.91\00:40:14.11
and we're trying to
get a place for them,
00:40:14.14\00:40:16.34
and we got it on our website.
00:40:16.38\00:40:19.41
I'm trusting God,
00:40:19.45\00:40:21.08
and I'm working
from a zero budget.
00:40:21.12\00:40:23.62
You know, I don't know
00:40:23.65\00:40:24.99
if anybody
worked from zero budget.
00:40:25.02\00:40:27.29
That's true.
Stepping out on faith.
00:40:27.32\00:40:30.29
But God had already said,
"This is what will take place."
00:40:30.33\00:40:33.50
I don't know how,
00:40:33.53\00:40:34.86
and I don't know when, I just...
00:40:34.90\00:40:37.13
I'm His instrument. I'm
a conduit of His message.
00:40:37.17\00:40:40.90
And so I put it out there,
but I know there's a need.
00:40:40.94\00:40:44.44
And I know that it's
not just where I am, I said,
00:40:44.47\00:40:46.61
"There has to be other places."
00:40:46.64\00:40:47.98
Yes.
00:40:48.01\00:40:49.34
So I'm hoping today
that those who are watching,
00:40:49.38\00:40:52.21
and God has you watching today
00:40:52.25\00:40:53.72
because He wanted
to tell you something.
00:40:53.75\00:40:57.05
In your
communities where you are,
00:40:57.09\00:40:59.19
you can't just have something
in your church to satisfy
00:40:59.22\00:41:03.76
those around you.
00:41:03.79\00:41:05.13
What good is a
flashlight in the sunlight?
00:41:05.16\00:41:07.90
What good...
00:41:07.93\00:41:09.26
And we come to our congregations
00:41:09.30\00:41:11.53
to bring our light,
00:41:11.57\00:41:13.60
and we just out blind
00:41:13.64\00:41:14.97
each other with our
scriptures and this and that.
00:41:15.00\00:41:16.81
But God said,
"Take that light out."
00:41:16.84\00:41:18.41
So there's a lot of...
00:41:18.44\00:41:19.91
Every church should
have something going on
00:41:19.94\00:41:22.68
to reach the needs
of their community.
00:41:22.71\00:41:26.55
I love that,
00:41:26.58\00:41:27.92
"What good is a
flashlight in the sunlight?"
00:41:27.95\00:41:29.78
Yes.
00:41:29.82\00:41:31.15
You know, that's like,
00:41:31.19\00:41:32.72
you know, why just
solely preach to the choir?
00:41:32.75\00:41:36.12
Exactly.
00:41:36.16\00:41:37.49
You have to get out
00:41:37.53\00:41:38.86
and do something
in your community.
00:41:38.89\00:41:40.23
You know, if a
church is missing,
00:41:40.26\00:41:42.36
like if a church has
been there for 20, 30 years,
00:41:42.40\00:41:45.77
and then, all of a
sudden, they close the doors,
00:41:45.80\00:41:47.84
and nobody in the community
even notices that they're gone,
00:41:47.87\00:41:51.41
that's a problem.
00:41:51.44\00:41:53.07
And they open up
with a shopping center,
00:41:53.11\00:41:55.18
and then you recognize
that your church was there.
00:41:55.21\00:41:57.98
Yeah. Yeah. That's a problem.
00:41:58.01\00:42:00.62
We have some pictures...
00:42:00.65\00:42:02.95
From Feed Our Children,
00:42:02.98\00:42:06.25
and we want to
take a look at those.
00:42:06.29\00:42:08.12
Will you describe
what's going on in those?
00:42:08.16\00:42:10.76
Yes, this is one of
the events that we have
00:42:10.79\00:42:12.99
where we give out
the turkeys and stuff.
00:42:13.03\00:42:16.13
And we had just hundreds
and hundreds of people coming.
00:42:16.16\00:42:18.97
And we have never ran out. Wow!
00:42:19.00\00:42:21.30
Ever since that day, I
learned to trust in God.
00:42:21.34\00:42:22.94
We have our summer
camps that we open up,
00:42:22.97\00:42:25.81
and they have the
Vacation Bible School
00:42:25.84\00:42:27.58
for inner city...
00:42:27.61\00:42:29.18
It's all circling around,
letting them know about Jesus.
00:42:29.21\00:42:32.51
Everything that we do
00:42:32.55\00:42:33.88
has given them that opportunity.
00:42:33.92\00:42:35.25
Even we spread it out
to different countries.
00:42:35.28\00:42:36.89
This is over in Kenya...
00:42:36.92\00:42:38.25
Wow!
00:42:38.29\00:42:39.62
Where we have huge orphanages,
00:42:39.65\00:42:42.42
and that we're reaching
those places where they are.
00:42:42.46\00:42:44.93
And God has transcended me
from Plant City to that place.
00:42:44.96\00:42:48.53
That's nothing but God. Wow!
00:42:48.56\00:42:50.87
This is a family that someone
00:42:50.90\00:42:53.40
you know helped to contribute
to help that family out.
00:42:53.44\00:42:57.04
And they made that happen.
00:42:57.07\00:42:58.91
A lot of people
are sitting around
00:42:58.94\00:43:01.14
trying to figure out what to do.
00:43:01.18\00:43:02.51
This is on our
Thanksgiving meal,
00:43:02.54\00:43:04.11
we opened it up.
00:43:04.15\00:43:05.48
And we have many of
the migrant families
00:43:05.51\00:43:07.42
that come out there.
00:43:07.45\00:43:09.05
And we feed them,
and we encouraged them.
00:43:09.08\00:43:12.85
Even the
handicaps, they say, you know,
00:43:12.89\00:43:14.79
"I never had nothing
like this in my life happen."
00:43:14.82\00:43:17.36
And they come white,
black, blue, and yellow,
00:43:17.39\00:43:19.29
no matter which color they are.
00:43:19.33\00:43:20.93
We bring them where
God would bring them.
00:43:20.96\00:43:24.63
We first meet the physical need
00:43:24.67\00:43:26.17
then we reach
their spiritual need.
00:43:26.20\00:43:28.37
It took me out.
00:43:28.40\00:43:29.74
This is Curacao,
00:43:29.77\00:43:31.11
the country where they called me
00:43:31.14\00:43:32.47
the other year, last year,
00:43:32.51\00:43:33.84
and this ministry
has reached out there
00:43:33.88\00:43:37.01
'cause I love evangelism.
00:43:37.05\00:43:38.38
So this is moving
into the evangelism side.
00:43:38.41\00:43:40.02
This is moving into
the evangelism side.
00:43:40.05\00:43:41.38
Okay. Okay.
00:43:41.42\00:43:42.75
Had a great baptism there,
00:43:42.78\00:43:44.75
over 20 some
people there in one week
00:43:44.79\00:43:47.02
God just moved, and I love...
00:43:47.06\00:43:48.89
This is what I love to do. Yes.
00:43:48.92\00:43:50.83
I mean, take me to
the water to be baptized.
00:43:50.86\00:43:53.23
Yes.
00:43:53.26\00:43:54.60
I mean, somewhere in
there, I may not do it,
00:43:54.63\00:43:56.73
but I'm believing that everyone
00:43:56.77\00:43:58.10
that I come across
that don't know Jesus,
00:43:58.13\00:44:00.34
but because they knew
me, they get to know Jesus.
00:44:00.37\00:44:03.34
Yes. Yes. And so that was it.
00:44:03.37\00:44:05.34
We had a great interpreter
that was pushing the gospel
00:44:05.37\00:44:08.34
as hard as I was.
00:44:08.38\00:44:11.01
We also...
00:44:11.05\00:44:13.28
That was in Kenya, that stadium,
00:44:13.31\00:44:15.42
thousands and
thousands of people
00:44:15.45\00:44:17.22
coming out each day,
and they preach the gospel.
00:44:17.25\00:44:20.72
And I told them my story,
00:44:20.76\00:44:22.26
and I met a lot of
people in that area.
00:44:22.29\00:44:24.03
This is here in Panama
where we were down there
00:44:24.06\00:44:27.73
and when Elder
Falkenberg called me to this one
00:44:27.76\00:44:30.70
when he was there and he said,
00:44:30.73\00:44:32.07
"Hey, we need a
black preacher down here."
00:44:32.10\00:44:34.70
And so that's when I
went there to preach there,
00:44:34.74\00:44:36.81
and God won us those souls.
00:44:36.84\00:44:38.61
This was is in Guyana,
00:44:38.64\00:44:40.54
Linden in Guyana
where we were serving there.
00:44:40.58\00:44:43.45
And just recently,
00:44:43.48\00:44:44.81
that was the
second time I went there.
00:44:44.85\00:44:46.18
And that was a small
group of baptisms that we had.
00:44:46.21\00:44:47.98
Wow.
00:44:48.02\00:44:49.35
And these are a
lot of volunteers
00:44:49.38\00:44:50.72
that work with
us, and thank God,
00:44:50.75\00:44:52.85
my ministry works
through volunteers.
00:44:52.89\00:44:55.39
Yes. Yes. Wow.
00:44:55.42\00:44:57.83
I guess the better question
is where haven't you been?
00:44:57.86\00:45:01.10
You've been all
across the globe.
00:45:01.13\00:45:03.33
Where He leads
me, I will follow.
00:45:03.37\00:45:06.57
I mean, I take engagements
to preach every weekend.
00:45:06.60\00:45:12.84
And I fly out here,
wherever the plane can get be,
00:45:12.87\00:45:15.94
I'm willing to be there.
00:45:15.98\00:45:17.51
Okay. Okay.
00:45:17.55\00:45:19.11
Now what made you
so passionate about,
00:45:19.15\00:45:25.02
you know, getting
active in the community?
00:45:25.05\00:45:28.19
I know where I was.
00:45:28.22\00:45:30.33
You know, sometimes we
get in these comfort zones.
00:45:30.36\00:45:33.96
I think a lot of our Christians,
00:45:34.00\00:45:35.33
we're addicted to comfort,
00:45:35.36\00:45:39.63
we are addicted to convenience,
00:45:39.67\00:45:42.64
and if it's raining,
we don't want to go out.
00:45:42.67\00:45:44.57
And there's always
conditions we set for God
00:45:44.61\00:45:47.61
that we don't set for our
job where they're paying us,
00:45:47.64\00:45:50.11
but getting down to
work for God, we have...
00:45:50.15\00:45:53.18
I had to learn.
I couldn't do that.
00:45:53.21\00:45:55.02
My passion had to
push me into places
00:45:55.05\00:45:57.92
I didn't want to be
00:45:57.95\00:45:59.49
because I knew there was a need,
00:45:59.52\00:46:01.66
and God had assigned me
00:46:01.69\00:46:03.12
to that need to
be taken care of.
00:46:03.16\00:46:06.23
When God assigned
you to something, Jason,
00:46:06.26\00:46:09.40
you don't just
unassign yourself.
00:46:09.43\00:46:12.43
I know that ain't even a
word, but it sounds good.
00:46:12.47\00:46:16.87
You have to...
00:46:16.91\00:46:18.57
You have to stay there,
00:46:18.61\00:46:21.24
and I've stayed in
places where I knew I was doing
00:46:21.28\00:46:24.48
what God called me to do,
but I was ready to cut it off.
00:46:24.51\00:46:27.52
I had other
things I wanted to do.
00:46:27.55\00:46:28.88
So I said, "Lord,
I'm tired of this one,
00:46:28.92\00:46:30.75
don't you have something else?"
00:46:30.79\00:46:32.12
And I had to
stay in it to win it.
00:46:32.15\00:46:35.89
Yes.
00:46:35.92\00:46:37.26
What it looked like was the...
00:46:37.29\00:46:38.89
Where I was putting a
period, God had put a comma.
00:46:38.93\00:46:41.83
Okay.
00:46:41.86\00:46:43.70
And He said, "No,
I need you to go on,
00:46:43.73\00:46:45.30
the sinners ain't over yet."
00:46:45.33\00:46:47.37
So you were trying to
release yourself from...
00:46:47.40\00:46:49.04
Trying to release myself.
00:46:49.07\00:46:50.41
The assignment that
God had assigned you to?
00:46:50.44\00:46:53.51
But the passion pushed me.
You got to love what you do.
00:46:53.54\00:46:57.55
Absolutely.
00:46:57.58\00:46:58.91
First, we got to...
00:46:58.95\00:47:00.28
Let me put it back...
00:47:00.32\00:47:01.65
You have to love God
first then you'll love whatever
00:47:01.68\00:47:03.99
He wants you to do.
00:47:04.02\00:47:06.02
You'll draw nearer to Him.
00:47:06.05\00:47:10.63
Otherwise, you have
that Jonah experience.
00:47:10.66\00:47:13.86
I call it the
Jonahsize. Unpack that.
00:47:13.90\00:47:16.26
Yes, Jonah once
had an assignment,
00:47:16.30\00:47:19.90
but he wanted to
make his own assignment.
00:47:19.93\00:47:24.64
And this assignment wasn't
over till he went to Nineveh.
00:47:24.67\00:47:28.34
And sometimes you're feeling
frustrated today and say,
00:47:28.38\00:47:32.61
"I just don't feel like...
00:47:32.65\00:47:34.32
I'm meeting what...
00:47:34.35\00:47:35.68
I want to do...
00:47:35.72\00:47:37.05
I fell unsatisfied."
00:47:37.09\00:47:38.42
Because you're
probably in that place
00:47:38.45\00:47:41.76
where there is an assignment
00:47:41.79\00:47:45.46
that you're not fulfilling.
00:47:45.49\00:47:48.26
You have to
fulfill your assignment,
00:47:48.30\00:47:50.50
otherwise
there's always a whale.
00:47:50.53\00:47:53.77
That there's a whale,
sometimes a whale of...
00:47:53.80\00:47:55.77
You wonder why you can't
get your finance together,
00:47:55.80\00:47:57.97
that's a whale of finances.
00:47:58.01\00:47:59.97
You wonder why you can't
get this relationship together.
00:48:00.01\00:48:02.74
And it's always something.
00:48:02.78\00:48:04.11
It won't work out until
you allow God to fulfill
00:48:04.15\00:48:07.72
what He called you to do.
00:48:07.75\00:48:09.42
There's a
scripture that I love to work
00:48:09.45\00:48:12.55
with that comes
from Lamentations 3:37.
00:48:12.59\00:48:16.59
It says, "Who can
speak into your life
00:48:16.62\00:48:19.53
and it comes to pass
00:48:19.56\00:48:20.93
unless God has
not commanded it?"
00:48:20.96\00:48:23.50
Wow.
00:48:23.53\00:48:24.87
I take that back into,
00:48:24.90\00:48:26.23
you know, when
people try to give you
00:48:26.27\00:48:28.97
what they want you to do,
00:48:29.00\00:48:31.24
and they tell you
what you ought to do
00:48:31.27\00:48:33.17
or what you couldn't
do or should've done.
00:48:33.21\00:48:35.84
You know, and a lot of times,
00:48:35.88\00:48:37.31
we have taken
resonance in the can't doers.
00:48:37.35\00:48:42.02
But that text says,
00:48:42.05\00:48:43.39
"I can do all
things through Christ."
00:48:43.42\00:48:46.25
So my passion to move
even when it looks impossible,
00:48:46.29\00:48:50.36
you know, it says,
"Who can say it come to pass
00:48:50.39\00:48:53.60
if God has not commanded it?"
00:48:53.63\00:48:55.66
Nobody told you,
you were a failure.
00:48:55.70\00:48:57.70
Nobody told you can
open up that new business.
00:48:57.73\00:48:59.87
Nobody told you
00:48:59.90\00:49:01.24
that that marriage
could not work out.
00:49:01.27\00:49:03.04
Nobody told you that
it wasn't going to be,
00:49:03.07\00:49:07.08
so you have
drived into this stuff,
00:49:07.11\00:49:09.68
and you have let your life miss
a lot of great opportunities
00:49:09.71\00:49:13.31
because you have looked
into the door of failure
00:49:13.35\00:49:15.98
and stayed there, and you
say, "It looks comfortable."
00:49:16.02\00:49:18.89
But God says, "I
have not told you that."
00:49:18.92\00:49:20.66
That's why He asked
you, "Who told you that?"
00:49:20.69\00:49:24.26
So my purpose and my
passion has come together.
00:49:24.29\00:49:27.40
Yes.
00:49:27.43\00:49:28.76
And that's my drive because...
00:49:28.80\00:49:30.60
And when I hear
people say, "Well, you know,
00:49:30.63\00:49:33.23
you're not going to
really get this thing,
00:49:33.27\00:49:35.00
this project is too big."
00:49:35.04\00:49:37.81
And I looked at
the scripture and said,
00:49:37.84\00:49:40.18
"Did God
commanded it not to happen?"
00:49:40.21\00:49:45.41
If God said, "No,
that's not yours."
00:49:45.45\00:49:48.95
One thing, let
me tell you, Jason,
00:49:48.98\00:49:50.32
I don't want nothing
that does not belong to me
00:49:50.35\00:49:53.29
'cause as the song say,
00:49:53.32\00:49:54.66
"What God has for
you, it is for you."
00:49:54.69\00:49:57.43
Yes. I don't want your stuff.
00:49:57.46\00:49:59.89
I got enough stuff
00:49:59.93\00:50:01.26
that He has
already prepared for me.
00:50:01.30\00:50:02.90
Abundantly, I mean,
beyond what I can imagine.
00:50:02.93\00:50:06.33
So I say, "Lord,
let me stay in my zone".
00:50:06.37\00:50:09.80
Don't be looking
at everybody else,
00:50:09.84\00:50:11.17
I'm going to stay in my zone.
00:50:11.21\00:50:12.54
And where He takes me,
00:50:12.57\00:50:13.91
I don't have time
for envy or jealousy.
00:50:13.94\00:50:15.58
Yeah.
00:50:15.61\00:50:16.95
Matter of fact, I
want to see you do better
00:50:16.98\00:50:18.98
than I ever did.
00:50:19.01\00:50:20.82
As long as I know,
00:50:20.85\00:50:22.18
I'm fulfilling
what God told me to do.
00:50:22.22\00:50:23.72
When I leave this place,
00:50:23.75\00:50:25.09
and they lay me
down on my grave,
00:50:25.12\00:50:27.72
if He does not
come before that time,
00:50:27.76\00:50:30.56
you will see
the smile on my face
00:50:30.59\00:50:32.59
because I know
I've done everything
00:50:32.63\00:50:34.46
that God has called me to do.
00:50:34.50\00:50:35.83
That's driving. That's living.
00:50:35.86\00:50:38.53
Not just going
through, you know, careless of,
00:50:38.57\00:50:41.57
you know, just day-to-day...
00:50:41.60\00:50:43.04
I have a purpose when
I get up in the morning
00:50:43.07\00:50:44.61
because I know
00:50:44.64\00:50:45.97
that I wasn't
supposed to be here anyway.
00:50:46.01\00:50:47.71
Yes. Yes. I was
supposed to be aborted.
00:50:47.74\00:50:51.78
So when I get up in the morning,
00:50:51.81\00:50:53.15
it's not like other people,
00:50:53.18\00:50:54.52
I know that I'm
on borrowed time.
00:50:54.55\00:50:55.88
Oh, yeah.
00:50:55.92\00:50:57.25
So people are wondering,
00:50:57.29\00:50:58.62
"Why are you
doing all this stuff?"
00:50:58.65\00:50:59.99
Because I have a
drive in me because I know
00:51:00.02\00:51:01.36
that I wasn't
supposed to be here
00:51:01.39\00:51:03.12
under all natural
conditions of man.
00:51:03.16\00:51:06.56
I was supposed to
be gone long time ago,
00:51:06.59\00:51:08.43
and the devil should have
took me out when he could.
00:51:08.46\00:51:10.63
But now that I'm here, brother,
I'm going to push for my Lord.
00:51:10.67\00:51:14.50
I'm gonna fight this
fight till the very end.
00:51:14.54\00:51:16.71
I might get knocked
back sometimes in a bout,
00:51:16.74\00:51:19.07
you may stumble, but
I'm not going to fall.
00:51:19.11\00:51:21.48
Come on. My hands
are in God's hands.
00:51:21.51\00:51:23.51
Wow!
00:51:23.55\00:51:25.38
It's so important
to find your purpose,
00:51:25.41\00:51:27.85
your God-given purpose.
00:51:27.88\00:51:29.45
Yes.
00:51:29.48\00:51:30.82
And, like you said,
00:51:30.85\00:51:32.19
that passion comes about
when you find that as well.
00:51:32.22\00:51:35.69
So, okay...
00:51:35.72\00:51:37.06
So Feed Our Children,
00:51:37.09\00:51:38.53
you're extremely
passionate about that.
00:51:38.56\00:51:40.73
That's your purpose.
You're fulfilling your purpose.
00:51:40.76\00:51:43.67
You're also a
head chaplain as well.
00:51:43.70\00:51:47.00
Yes.
00:51:47.04\00:51:48.37
But before we talk about
that, I'd like to talk about
00:51:48.40\00:51:51.11
some of the needs
of Feed Our Children.
00:51:51.14\00:51:53.38
What are your current
needs for the ministry?
00:51:53.41\00:51:56.75
We need prayer. Okay.
00:51:56.78\00:51:58.45
I think, wherever you are,
00:51:58.48\00:52:00.42
you can always
just call that name,
00:52:00.45\00:52:03.08
Feed Our Children Ministry
00:52:03.12\00:52:04.45
that God's will
will be done in it.
00:52:04.49\00:52:07.39
On our website, you
can always go and...
00:52:07.42\00:52:10.63
What is your
website? FeedOurChildren.org.
00:52:10.66\00:52:14.03
Okay. And you go in there.
00:52:14.06\00:52:16.06
If you want to give,
donate, you're welcome to...
00:52:16.10\00:52:19.67
And we appreciate
anything that you can provide.
00:52:19.70\00:52:23.81
If volunteers, we try
to do some outreach places,
00:52:23.84\00:52:27.84
like we said we
have different orphanages
00:52:27.88\00:52:30.11
in different places,
00:52:30.15\00:52:31.58
and even going to
some of those places
00:52:31.61\00:52:33.92
and reaching out to
some of those people there.
00:52:33.95\00:52:36.92
And they always tell us,
"We need more rice and beans,"
00:52:36.95\00:52:40.62
and we try to
send those funds there
00:52:40.66\00:52:42.59
that they can get it right there
00:52:42.62\00:52:43.96
in their country in Kenya.
00:52:43.99\00:52:45.66
And so it is a...
00:52:45.69\00:52:47.60
We're a small ministry,
but we're doing big things.
00:52:47.63\00:52:50.13
Yes. Around the world.
00:52:50.17\00:52:52.57
Yeah. That's a God thing.
00:52:52.60\00:52:56.07
He's not limited by geographics.
00:52:56.10\00:52:58.37
He's not on the side of stop.
00:52:58.41\00:53:00.01
Hey, I like that.
00:53:00.04\00:53:02.21
Well, you've given
me plenty today too.
00:53:05.51\00:53:07.45
So I'm going to have to
watch this over and over again
00:53:07.48\00:53:10.92
so I can get
some of those sayings.
00:53:10.95\00:53:13.66
Very powerful.
00:53:13.69\00:53:15.52
It's amazing what
you have been able to do
00:53:15.56\00:53:19.59
by the grace of
God to help people.
00:53:19.63\00:53:21.50
I mean, it's
practical Christianity.
00:53:21.53\00:53:23.16
Yes.
00:53:23.20\00:53:24.53
And you're getting
out in the community,
00:53:24.57\00:53:25.90
and you're feeding
the community, literally,
00:53:25.93\00:53:28.70
feeding the community
00:53:28.74\00:53:30.11
and communities
around the globe.
00:53:30.14\00:53:32.47
Well, what I'd like to
see while I'm out there is...
00:53:32.51\00:53:35.68
We were down there in Parkdale
00:53:35.71\00:53:37.81
when the shooting
took place, Parkland.
00:53:37.85\00:53:39.91
In Florida?
00:53:39.95\00:53:41.28
Yes, particularly
I went over there,
00:53:41.32\00:53:42.65
and I saw all of
those broken kids,
00:53:42.68\00:53:45.25
and being a chaplain,
00:53:45.29\00:53:47.96
it helped me to be in
the place when I was needed.
00:53:47.99\00:53:51.09
I just preach at a
church in that area,
00:53:51.13\00:53:52.96
and a
grandmother came and told me
00:53:52.99\00:53:54.33
that she just buried
her child a day before,
00:53:54.36\00:53:57.03
and that was one of
the kids that got shot.
00:53:57.07\00:53:59.37
But I saw that in those places,
00:53:59.40\00:54:03.64
God needs those who
are willing to serve
00:54:03.67\00:54:07.91
and that has pushed me in...
00:54:07.94\00:54:10.71
As part of my
ministry, I appreciate...
00:54:10.75\00:54:12.55
I had been a
chaplain at Florida hospital.
00:54:12.58\00:54:16.45
I have found people
00:54:16.48\00:54:17.82
that were in the
most vulnerable situation.
00:54:17.85\00:54:21.19
If you have been in a hospital,
00:54:21.22\00:54:23.73
and, you know that
it's one of those things
00:54:23.76\00:54:27.63
you look death in their eyes,
00:54:27.66\00:54:30.40
and you're wondering,
"So, Lord, is this it?"
00:54:30.43\00:54:33.20
And then you're wondering
00:54:33.23\00:54:34.57
if doctor's going to
pull you through this?
00:54:34.60\00:54:36.77
Or is this sickness
going to take you out?
00:54:36.81\00:54:40.61
And as a chaplain, and I
salute all the chaplains,
00:54:40.64\00:54:45.41
even from Chaplain Barry Black
00:54:45.45\00:54:47.48
who works now as the senate
there to chaplains in the army,
00:54:47.52\00:54:51.22
and those who are
working in the hospitals
00:54:51.25\00:54:54.16
and those who are
working in the prisons.
00:54:54.19\00:54:56.49
The Adventist
chaplaincy covers all those.
00:54:56.52\00:54:59.66
To be in the
chaplaincy in the hospitals,
00:54:59.69\00:55:02.03
there you have to
go through a lot more
00:55:02.06\00:55:04.83
than even a pastor.
00:55:04.87\00:55:06.20
You have to
already be in the ministry,
00:55:06.23\00:55:08.20
but it take you
through another year, so CPE.
00:55:08.24\00:55:11.24
And there you
learn how to eradicate
00:55:11.27\00:55:14.01
some of your prejudices,
because you're going in rooms
00:55:14.04\00:55:17.18
where there are people
who are different ethnicities,
00:55:17.21\00:55:22.18
you have people who
have different viewpoints,
00:55:22.22\00:55:25.52
you have the homosexuals,
00:55:25.55\00:55:27.89
you have everybody
from all walks of life.
00:55:27.92\00:55:30.69
The Baptists, the Methodists,
00:55:30.73\00:55:32.06
and you are their
pastor when they are there.
00:55:32.09\00:55:34.93
And they take you in.
00:55:34.96\00:55:36.30
So God had to...
00:55:36.33\00:55:37.67
I'm learning one thing
about the ministry like that,
00:55:37.70\00:55:39.33
you had to disband your
prejudices and minister.
00:55:39.37\00:55:42.60
Yes.
00:55:42.64\00:55:45.24
That's a level of ministry that,
00:55:45.27\00:55:46.88
"I can't look at you
00:55:46.91\00:55:48.24
'cause you got all
tattoos on and earrings
00:55:48.28\00:55:51.21
and all the other things."
00:55:51.25\00:55:52.58
God says, "That's my child too."
00:55:52.61\00:55:53.95
And that's the time
00:55:53.98\00:55:55.32
when those
people are so vulnerable
00:55:55.35\00:55:56.69
and they feel...
00:55:56.72\00:55:58.09
A lot of them will
feel their need for God.
00:55:58.12\00:56:00.36
They're helpless
at that point. Yes.
00:56:00.39\00:56:02.82
Helpless.
00:56:02.86\00:56:04.19
And that's when
00:56:04.23\00:56:07.10
some who never
would even listen to you,
00:56:07.13\00:56:10.13
pray for them, asks
you, "Will you pray for me?"
00:56:10.17\00:56:14.40
Yes. "Will you hold my hand?"
00:56:14.44\00:56:16.94
And I not only pray
for them, but I sing.
00:56:16.97\00:56:19.17
I made a CD that
you can actually get it
00:56:19.21\00:56:21.28
from the Adventist Book Center.
00:56:21.31\00:56:24.51
It's online,
called Healings Hymns.
00:56:24.55\00:56:28.45
And those are the songs
that I sing to my patients.
00:56:28.48\00:56:30.99
Nice.
00:56:31.02\00:56:32.35
And they find
that there's healing
00:56:32.39\00:56:33.86
in those beautiful
words that come from,
00:56:33.89\00:56:36.96
"Amazing grace,
00:56:36.99\00:56:38.39
how sweet the sound
that saved a wretch like me."
00:56:38.43\00:56:41.13
That was my story. Wow.
00:56:41.16\00:56:44.10
You have a very,
very powerful testimony.
00:56:44.13\00:56:48.67
And I hope that our viewers
at home have been inspired
00:56:48.70\00:56:52.77
by today's interview.
00:56:52.81\00:56:55.48
I want to thank
you so much. Thank you.
00:56:55.51\00:56:57.48
It was a blessing
to be here with you.
00:56:57.51\00:56:59.05
Yes, sir. And thank you.
00:56:59.08\00:57:00.75
Well, we've reached
the end of another program.
00:57:00.78\00:57:03.12
Join us next time, and remember,
00:57:03.15\00:57:04.49
it just wouldn't be
the same without you.
00:57:04.52\00:57:06.69