Stay tuned to meet a man
who loves to go to prison
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but he's never incarcerated.
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My name is Jason Bradley
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and you're
watching Urban Report.
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Hello, and
welcome to Urban Report.
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Today my guest is
Brother Richard A. Bland.
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And he is the founder of
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the United Prison
Ministries International.
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Welcome to Urban
Report, Brother Richard.
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It's happy to be
here with you, Jason.
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Pleasure. Pleasure to have you.
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So tell us about United
Prison Ministries International.
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How did it get started
and what's its function?
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Well, it got started in 1980.
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My wife and I, we
came from California.
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And we really came to
California to get involved
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in opening a chain
of health restaurants
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but the Lord
changed the story there
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and we were invited to a prison.
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And from that, I
took with me about
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200 Spirit of Prophecy
Books that I've read so far.
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And the next day,
the Chaplain asked me
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for a 1000 of them.
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So I took them that
and that's when it started.
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So since that time,
we've been going out,
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I've been in to 71
countries of the world.
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So my wife and I, like
I said, we started out,
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and now we've given away
over 71 million books of Bible
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and Bible lesson to
men and women in prison,
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not just in the United
States, all over Russia,
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all over Romania.
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I've been to India six times,
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China about five times, we
just came back from Indonesia,
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Philippines, you know.
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Wow. Africa.
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You are traveling the
globe and spreading the gospel.
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Now you've recently came
out with a new Bible Study
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or Bible Study guide.
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Tell us about that and
what's unique about it.
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Well, what's unique about this,
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after doing over 25
million Bible lessons
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that we've graded in
our office over the time,
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I asked the Lord, I said, "Lord,
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give us a set of Bible lessons
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where all the answers
are out of your Bible only."
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So what we did, we took
25 of the most asked question
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in the world that
people want to know
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and we put it together,
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and the Lord gave us the
Bible text to go with it.
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And what's so unique
about it, Jason, is that
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anybody's got a Bible.
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Don't care what
church they go to,
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they can get the
answers out of their Bible.
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Yes. Yes.
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So they know when
they're doing their research,
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and they go to the scripture,
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and they read it for themselves.
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Because, you know,
what happens a lot of times
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is it's a generational thing
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so people are
whatever denomination they are
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because their grandparents
were that denomination
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and they haven't done
the research for themselves
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to see what, which way to go?
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But when they
open the Word of God
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and they study and
they write down the answers
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and learn for themselves,
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then they can make
an informed decision.
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We've always, we
started out, always now,
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all of our Bible
lessons is what the Bible says.
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We always believe
in going by the Book.
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But we never design
our own Bible lessons
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until just recently.
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And after about
a year and a half
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of prayer and fasting,
we came up with this here,
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that you see right here.
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And on top of...
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Let's turn to the subject.
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The first one's stress,
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Bible answers from their Bible,
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"Don't stress,
defeat loneliness,
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healing the
sorrow, living with hope,
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health and nutrition,
survival, addiction free."
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All these are
answers out of their Bible.
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Or also gentle ways
improve your marriage,
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take control to quit smoking...
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The people don't
have to go through
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these 773,692
words in the Bible.
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They can go right here
and get the answers quickly.
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Wait a minute, how many words?
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773,692 words in
the Bible. Oh! you know?
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Everybody know
there are 66 books,
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everybody knows
there's 1,189 chapters,
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everybody knows
there's 31,173 verses.
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But when you look
at the 7,73,692 words
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and 5 million letters
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that's a whole lot
to find your answer.
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But we put it together
so you can go right to it.
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So if you have a money problem,
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we give you nine texts
how to solve that problem.
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If you have hope
in times of trouble...
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It's designed for everybody
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and I don't care what
religion you belong to
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if you own a Bible, you must get
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what the Bible says.
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Now what are some
of the other topics
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that are covered in
there because as you flip
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past page 2 and 3,
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you get into like a question
and answer type of format?
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Yes, what we did here...
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The first 15 subjects
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are just the Bible
text of how to find...
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Like I said, to
take control to smoke,
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I want to quit smoking.
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Well, we've just come
up with nine Bible texts
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that you can go to.
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So you can look
at it real quickly.
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Then the next 10,
you write out the answer,
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for an example,
about where sin came from.
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Most people really
miss that first question,
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who committed the first sin.
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Ninety nine percent
of the people will say
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alimony but the
Bible says something else.
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And we didn't let them know that
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what they think they
heard in Sunday School
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or wherever Sabbath
School, it's not true.
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The devil
committed the first sin,
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'cause they go to the
Bible for their answer.
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Then the very next one
happened, when people said,
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what happens when a person dies?
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The Bible gives them the answer,
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you listen to me.
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Then the next one, they
got to write out the answer,
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who wrote the Ten Commandments.
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Most people think that
somebody else wrote it,
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but when they read,
they're going to find out
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in their Bible who wrote it.
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Then they're going to
find out in their Bible
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what day is the Lord's
Day out of their Bible.
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And what day is the Lord's Day?
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Well, the Bible will tell you.
I don't give any secrets out.
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That's why they
need to get these lessons
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so they can get the
answer for themselves.
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They need... Yes.
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But according to
the Bible the Lord's Day
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is the Sabbath, right?
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The Seventh Day Sabbath.
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So now the fourth Commandment,
"Remember the Sabbath day,
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keep it holy," six days.
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That's exactly right.
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"You can do all the labor
you want, but the Seventh day
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is the Sabbath of
the Lord thy God."
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Yes. You got it correctly.
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And the reason, but
see at the very top is,
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everyone knows is,
always pray and ask for guidance
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when you do these lessons.
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So it's the Holy
Spirit that leads them.
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Like I said,
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there's no other
comments in here at all.
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It's all strictly
out of their Bible.
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I don't care what kind
of Bible that they have,
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whether it's a Muslim
Bible, a Catholic Bible,
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or a Jehovah's Witness Bible,
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I don't care what
kind of Bible it is.
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It's going to give
them the answer out
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because we did research
on this to make sure that
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we got to 25
most asked questions
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that people will
know all over the world,
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and now we got to
get this translated now
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into other countries.
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So are these
going into the prisons?
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Are these studies
making it into the prisons
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and if so, how is it impacting
the inmates and the officers?
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Okay, you asked a
good question here on that.
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Just recently, as you
know a particular prison
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with the latest
prison, she told me, she said,
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"You know, my son said..."
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And she's a minister by the way.
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She said, "My son came to
me and says, 'You know, Mom,
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Sunday is the Sabbath.'"
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She says, "Son,
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you have to go back
and look, it's wrong."
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She said, "Because the
Bible gives the right day
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in the book there."
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And so he says, "Well,
that's not what I was taught."
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She said, "But
the Bible is correct.
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Go by what the Bible says."
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And one prison just recently
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until we changed to
this style of Bible Lesson,
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400 guys have
graduated in the last two months
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and this Bible Court
because they're now going
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by what the Bible says.
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Well, most people don't
realize people in prison
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don't take
people's word anymore.
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They don't care
none about your church,
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they didn't trick
so law so they say,
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I want to know the truth.
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And the Bible is the only one
that would give you the truth.
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And that's the reason
why we went to the Bible
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to get the Bible to
answer on every question.
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And these are
the 25 top questions
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that you want to know.
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Such as about your
health. What should I eat?
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The Bible tells you that.
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Who should I marry?
The Bible tells you that.
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When should I worship?
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The Bible tells you that.
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Do you listen to
me? All in the Bible.
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And so this is why
it's designed for that.
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And we made in such a way
that instead of it costing
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what most people
think, this 25 Bible Study,
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most people say,
"Well, 25 Bible study,
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should at least cost
four or five dollars."
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No, we made it available.
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And they get a box of
a 100, a dollar a piece.
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That's four cents a Bible Study,
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they're getting their answers.
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So that's why everybody
needs to call this number.
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And what number is that?
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Area code 205-755-4744.
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That's 205-755-4744.
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Or they can go to
the website upmi.org.
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You know? Upmi.org.
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That's United Prison
Ministries International.
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And if you know
anybody in the prison
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anywhere that's in
prison, let them contact us.
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Now we send the
materials to the prisons free.
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This is why we have
people like yourself that,
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then people
that's going to hear,
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this to donate to the ministry
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because that's all what we do.
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We give free material.
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Every dime you send
us is tax deductible.
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Even if you get a box for
yourself is tax deductible.
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'cause we don't
sell anything, you see?
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So you're
getting a tax deductible
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to give to your
neighbor, to your friend.
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And we admonish
whoever you are, get it
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and give it to your pastors.
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We admonish that to
give it to all the pastors
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because they
need to know exactly
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what the Bible is saying.
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Now you talked to me earlier
before we came on the program
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and you were discussing like
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how you can give
it to your doctor,
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you can give it to your dentist,
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you can try and put
it in different offices
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so that people can
study the Word for themselves
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you might reach other
people as a form of ministry.
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Yeah, the reason
why we did that because
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see, every Christian
has a responsibility.
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If they would read this
Ezekiel 3:17, 18, and 19,
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where God,
commands every Christian
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that they are there
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because He's put them
there to work for Christ.
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And it also says
that we are watchmen.
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And it says in the 18 verse,
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if I don't share
the Word of God with you
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and you yourself are
lost, I'm going to be lost too.
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You know what I say?
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So I am as every person
that is here in this program,
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be sure to read
Ezekiel 3:17, 18, and 19
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because that's what
turned my life around.
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That's why I don't
pass up anybody anymore.
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I used to pass up some people.
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Some people I give the
gospel to, some I didn't,
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until I read that
text because it said
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if a person is...
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Do not hear the Word of
God because I didn't tell them
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and they are going
to hell, I will go too.
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That is simply what it says.
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Now what about...
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You were talking about
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how it impacts
the inmates, right?
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How does it impact the officers?
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Oh, my!
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Well, number one, once
it impacts the inmates,
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then the officers are impacted.
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How?
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Because the inmates
are acting different,
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the officers are
seeing their lives change,
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and then the officers'
lives being changed too
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because the Word
in the prison now,
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if you want the
blessing, pass out
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what the Bible Studies Lesson.
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That's going to
the whole prison system
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in America now.
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If you want the
blessing, pass out
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what the Bible Studies
Lessons, you see what I mean?
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And if you care, you will share.
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And that's goes to everybody.
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If you care about your neighbor,
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if you care about the
people in your community,
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you will share the Word of God.
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And it's simple, you
don't have to sit down now
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anymore with a Bible study.
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In fact, we admonish you,
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once your pass is
out, keep your mouth shut,
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and let the Word
of God do the talking.
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And the reason for that,
Jason, you'd look at your thumb.
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There are over seven
billion people in the world
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with a different thumbprint
as yours on that small space.
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Can you imagine how
different, how special we are,
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just that small space?
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So therefore, since
like we are different
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in the way we are,
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then we have to go
to God for ourselves
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and that's what
this Bible Lesson does.
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It'll send you to
the Word of God yourself.
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And Bible says, "Oh, taste
and see that the Lord is good."
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But I can't find out
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through your
relationship with Christ
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that I have my own
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personal
relationship with Christ...
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Exactly, you've got
it. In order to find out.
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Well, that's amazing.
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So what
differentiates your Bible Study
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from some of the other
ones that are circulating?
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Well, like I said,
this is the only one
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we ever heard of in the
world where all the scriptures
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or when all the
answers are from the Bible.
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We don't give any
comment in this at all.
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In fact, at the end of the book,
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the Bible Lesson here,
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we even have all
the well-known stories
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of the Bible that you can find.
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But, you know, we're
not knocking any others.
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But I'm just telling
you if you want results
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because I myself, I
used to get Bible Study.
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And I said, "Well,
that's that person's opinion."
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Because they have
a little footnote.
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This here has no
footnotes, it's only God notes.
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And the lives have been changed
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because I didn't know that.
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I didn't know that.
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They call me and
say, "I didn't know."
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I said, "What
did you didn't know?"
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"I didn't know that I
was born in sin and shaped...
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I didn't know that I
could not quit smoking."
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I said, "No, you can't quit."
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"This is what I
thought I'd quit."
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I said, "No, you can quit."
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I said, "Just like
no more that I can go
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35,000 feet in the air.
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Can I jump 35... They said "No."
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But I can go 35,000
feet high. They said, "How?"
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I said, "By
getting into an airplane."
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With Christ get in
your life, you can do it.
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Christ have to
do, you can't do it.
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You listening to
me? So it's impossible.
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That's why Christ
does not fix up sinners,
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He replaces sinners.
You're listening to me.
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See I used to think
that I could do better.
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I had a temper,
I could do better.
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I can't do better. God
has to come in my life.
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And that's what He
told Nicodemus in the Bible.
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Nicodemus was a
great theologian,
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you see what I mean?
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He knew everything
but he went to Christ.
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And Jesus said, "You
know what your problem is,
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you must be born again."
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He said, "How
can I be born again."
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And He says,
this is what happens.
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So if you look in the Bible,
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about four Bible
texts will help you.
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I mean Psalm 51:5 will
say, "You were born in sin."
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Psalm 58:3 says,
"From your birth,
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you came out lying
in your mother's womb."
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And then you look at
Galatians 5:17, 18, 19,
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it tells you all
those sinful attributes
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that you were born with.
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Then you look at
the Galatians 5:22, 23,
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it says that
once you're born again
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you'll have love,
joy, peace, long suffering.
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It's just lets you
know the difference.
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So you know who
you are by your action.
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Fruit of the
Spirit. Fruit of the Spirit.
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Exactly right.
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I've known you for
a couple of years now.
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Yeah.
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And I've seen how
passionate you are
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about spreading the gospel
and about prison ministry.
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Where does that come from?
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And where does your passion
for prison ministry come from?
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And how long have you
had that burning desire?
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Well, if you've
seen the lives changed
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that we've seen
changed, my wife and I,
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you will be
passionate about it too.
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It's been amazing. It's amazing.
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We didn't plan to do this.
We had no dreams of doing this.
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But let me tell
you what happened.
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We started out
with about 200 prisoners
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at the first meeting that
we were invited to, Long story.
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And then I told the chaplain
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I want to talk
to about 10 at first
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because I want
to study with them
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and give them what we knew.
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From those, we started
out with 15 Bible students
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and we gave
them the Word of God.
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And we said, "Now
what could that mean?
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Would you think that
every prisoner's brave."
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And so they
said, "Well, steal it."
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All of us steal. I said, "Okay."
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I said, "Now, let me
show you how you steal now.
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If I should give you a dollar
to give everybody in the studio
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and you don't give
that man over there
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his dollar, you've stolen."
00:16:06.56\00:16:07.90
They said, "That's right."
00:16:07.93\00:16:09.26
I said, "Now if I
gave you the Word of God,
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everybody you
come in contact with,
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if you don't give it to them,
you're stealing from them."
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They said, "Yes."
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So from those 15,
in six months time,
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we were grading
18,000 Bible Studies.
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That's what made it explode.
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Did you hear
what I just said? Wow!
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From those 15,
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they told the guards,
they told their family members,
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they told other prisoners
and it spread in 27 states
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within six months time.
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And that's what hooked us. Wow!
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And I said, "Lord if this
is what you want us to do,
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this is what we'll
be willing to do it."
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Wow!
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So have you ever been
incarcerated yourself?
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No.
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But although I've
been in many prisons,
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I've been in Russian prison,
I've been in Romanian prison,
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Indian prison, African prison.
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In fact, one year,
that's why my wife told me
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that I should slow down.
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In 2012, I went to
Africa nine times in one year,
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flying back and forth.
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And it's about wore me out. See?
00:17:05.62\00:17:07.86
Now how long was that flight?
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Well, it's about
a 12-hour flight.
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You know, going
there and doing it twice.
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And now every month of
the year I was back and forth.
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That was 18 times, you
know going around and forth.
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And it's just too much.
00:17:17.97\00:17:19.30
And one time I
should've slow down
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but it was, the
needs, it's so great.
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Yes.
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Because see I have gone on...
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we service every
prison in Russia.
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We are the first people
that ever put Bible Lesson
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and a Bible in
Russian prison in 1991,
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1992, 1993, 1994, 1995.
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We went over there, and Romania,
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all over the country.
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And we were
invited by the leaders
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of those
countries too, by the way.
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Wow! Which is unheard of.
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Of which was unheard. Yes.
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And in our Bible
Lessons were printed
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on the communist press too.
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Oh, yeah. Wait
a minute. Oh, yes.
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Your Bible lessons were
printed on the communist press.
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That's right.
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We got a film to show that,
Persia and Romania is there.
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I said, "Look we
don't have our..."
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He said, "Look, you provide the,
00:18:02.54\00:18:06.05
what it takes, you
know, and we'll print them."
00:18:06.08\00:18:08.12
And they printed. All we
did was provide the money.
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Wow! So the Lord...
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And see that goes
to that, you know,
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God can open doors
that no man can shut,
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and He can shut
doors that no man can open.
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Well, we got to
remember this, Jason,
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God is the one that said
00:18:21.23\00:18:22.56
the gospel has to
go to the whole world.
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And it's going to go.
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See because He said so.
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So the point is
00:18:27.80\00:18:29.37
do I want to go
along or with Him.
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Do I want to have
the joy ride with Him
00:18:30.87\00:18:32.67
'cause He's going to go, see?
00:18:32.71\00:18:34.81
And that's why amongst
the people that's listening,
00:18:34.84\00:18:37.21
be sure to read
Ezekiel 3:17, 18, and 19.
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And put your name there
'cause God is talking to you.
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And that you won't pass
up anybody, on the way here,
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on the way if you've
stopped at a rest stop.
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A bus load of
people who are singers
00:18:51.89\00:18:55.36
of a different
nationality, they passed by,
00:18:55.40\00:18:57.40
and I gave them one of these.
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Do you know, the young
man about 19, 20 years old,
00:18:58.97\00:19:02.24
I gave him a box of a 100
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because I was so
impressed by their people.
00:19:04.41\00:19:06.47
He turned around to
give me enough money
00:19:06.51\00:19:08.64
to buy 400 of
them back, cash money.
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Just kids, he is not more...
00:19:11.15\00:19:13.15
well, he was about
20 or 21 years old.
00:19:13.18\00:19:16.18
See because they
had a family group
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I think 11 of them,
00:19:17.99\00:19:19.32
and I got the tape they gave me.
00:19:19.35\00:19:20.72
And I said, "I was just
impressed to get my book."
00:19:20.76\00:19:22.62
And he came back and
gave me a roll of money.
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Wow! So it's the lowest program.
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And if you want some blessing,
pass out these lessons.
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You're listening to me?
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Just remember that I was there.
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And I would suggest this.
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I tried it with my Dentist
00:19:35.37\00:19:37.57
who I didn't
think was a Christian.
00:19:37.61\00:19:40.11
No, he never
talked religion to me,
00:19:40.14\00:19:41.84
anything of this nature.
00:19:41.88\00:19:43.21
So one day I asked, well
as soon as I go there, I said,
00:19:43.24\00:19:45.25
"Doc, what do
you think of this?"
00:19:45.28\00:19:46.61
He said, "Let me look at it."
00:19:46.65\00:19:47.98
I said, "I like to
put in your office.
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So let me look at it."
00:19:50.32\00:19:51.65
Then he came back, he
said, "You know, you can."
00:19:51.69\00:19:53.82
He said because
it's not about a church,
00:19:53.86\00:19:56.52
it's about what
the Word of God is.
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So I put a rack in
his office at my expense,
00:19:58.13\00:20:01.60
just a $100 worth.
00:20:01.63\00:20:03.37
And do you know just a week ago,
00:20:03.40\00:20:05.50
Thursday he gave me $1,250
00:20:05.53\00:20:09.00
because I got a letter,
it's in your bag right now,
00:20:09.04\00:20:12.17
I'll show you at the end
of the show where he said,
00:20:12.21\00:20:14.31
"It was such a
blessing to his patients
00:20:14.34\00:20:17.65
that come in there."
00:20:17.68\00:20:19.01
And he loved the
way that it was done.
00:20:19.05\00:20:21.78
Exactly right.
00:20:21.82\00:20:23.15
I have another dentist,
that is not even my dentist,
00:20:23.18\00:20:26.99
who saw this,
he was so impressed
00:20:27.02\00:20:28.79
he got $10, 000
worth of the stuff.
00:20:28.82\00:20:32.33
So I will suggest if you
know any doctor's office,
00:20:32.36\00:20:36.63
make it your
personal gift for the Lord,
00:20:36.67\00:20:40.84
to get a rack of this,
and just put it in there,
00:20:40.87\00:20:43.54
and you'll see how
they'll be blessed.
00:20:43.57\00:20:45.11
And what are some other ways
that people can get involved
00:20:45.14\00:20:48.24
with UPMI ministries?
00:20:48.28\00:20:51.91
Well, it's according
to what they want to do.
00:20:51.95\00:20:53.62
You know, number
one, we want to put this
00:20:53.65\00:20:56.42
in two and a
half million prisons
00:20:56.45\00:20:57.99
in the United States in
the next few months now.
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So therefore, we need two
and a half million dollars
00:21:00.66\00:21:02.69
worth just to do that.
00:21:02.72\00:21:04.06
So there are three ways
you can help prison ministry.
00:21:04.09\00:21:07.33
You can pray.
00:21:07.36\00:21:09.83
You can pay.
00:21:09.86\00:21:11.30
And you can go.
00:21:11.33\00:21:12.67
You're listening to
me? Pray, pay, and go.
00:21:12.70\00:21:14.37
Pray, pay, and go.
00:21:14.40\00:21:15.74
Now very few people
are really qualified
00:21:15.77\00:21:17.77
to go into prison
ministry because prisoners have
00:21:17.81\00:21:20.28
the sharpest mind you have.
00:21:20.31\00:21:21.94
So we admonish you to
go through certain training
00:21:21.98\00:21:25.91
to do that, you see what I mean?
00:21:25.95\00:21:27.32
But we need all
the prayers we can get
00:21:27.35\00:21:29.42
and we need all the
fun that you want to send
00:21:29.45\00:21:32.35
that you can be a blessing.
00:21:32.39\00:21:33.72
Remember the blessings
come by giving not by receiving.
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So if you want
more money, give more.
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You're listening to
me? The more you give...
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And we found out most of
our donors over the years
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have said the reason why
we give to prison ministry
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because we are giving to people
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who God has send
must get the gospel,
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and we're not getting
the personal benefit back,
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you see, for it because
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and other people
got to realize this.
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And as I think I've said
this before on this show,
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you got to remember
out there, audience,
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when a person get out of prison,
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they do one of two things,
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they either gonna look
you up or stick you up.
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And if they don't
have the Word of God
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they have no choice
but to stick you up.
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And I would suggest
for your own benefit,
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let's give them the Word of God,
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so they can look you up
instead of sticking you up.
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Make sense? Yeah.
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When they get out there,
either they're going to have
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crime or Christ.
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It's got to be one of them.
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And in prison they
study crime or Christ.
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See.
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It is not three
categories in prison.
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Either you're talking with
your buddy about more crime
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or you're instead
talking to him about Christ.
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And that's why we provide
them with spiritual material
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so they can lead them to Christ.
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Now we have a secret that
the devil can't give them.
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You know what it is?
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Only the Word of
God can give you peace.
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That's what we get them.
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So when they're
frustrated, I go and say,
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"Let me tell you something.
If all the money you got,
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all the drugs
you've been selling,
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and all the
robberies have been stealing,
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how you feeling?"
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"Terrible."
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I said, "You
want peace of mind?"
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I said, "Come and see my God
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because only God
can give you peace."
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Devil can give
you everything else
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this world has got, but
that, you know they don't.
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Everything else.
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Everything that
he gives is a false.
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That's right.
It's a counterfeit.
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But he can't give you peace.
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It won't be true peace.
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No he can't give you peace.
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He'll give you a
happy hour but not peace.
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See peace is when you
got to love, joy, peace,
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long sufferings,
the fruit of Spirit.
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That's the only
time you have peace.
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And that's what's
makes us so excited.
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So what are some specific needs
that you have as a ministry?
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Well, specific needs
now, it would help us
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if everyone started
passing out the lessons
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so they won't be
coming to prison.
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See, and remember,
this does not only changes
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people life in prison,
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it keeps those
from coming from prison.
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All the crime, all the
things that's happened,
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you can't do
that when you've got
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the love of God in your
heart because you can't do that.
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This shows you how that
you can be an aid to society,
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a blessing to society.
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See all the
crime that's going on
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and all the
things that's going on,
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it's because people don't
have Christ in their life.
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And out of their Bible,
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they can find how to stop crime.
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And we want to stop it.
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And so that's why we
turn the prisoner now,
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send this lesson back home.
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That's why it is so
economical, by the way,
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because we have someone to
give us 80 percent subsidy.
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Otherwise we couldn't do this,
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there's no way in the
world it could be done.
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But we had, people said,
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"Look I want to put my
money where my mouth fits.
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I want to stop crime."
00:24:33.80\00:24:35.14
I said, "Well, listen, well,
we have people have to have
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a source very economical.
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Otherwise we
couldn't give it away."
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And so that's why we
need all the blessing
00:24:41.28\00:24:44.71
that they want to
give to the ministry.
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And that's why I
would suggest that...
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but first
everyone is saying this.
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I would suggest that
first get a copy yourself,
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get a copy.
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I wouldn't have
to say anything else.
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In fact, the smallest amount
we are selling down I think
00:24:59.06\00:25:02.43
because the post is so high.
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If they get 20 of
them, I think we've now got
00:25:04.03\00:25:06.17
the special of 20 of them
for $25 because of the postage.
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But if they get a
box of a 100, you know,
00:25:09.27\00:25:10.61
they don't even have
to pay the postage now.
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Well, get it yourself,
and then, you be the judge.
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And again like one of the
things that I like about it
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because that's
actually my copy right there.
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Oh, is it? You want it back.
00:25:21.95\00:25:24.95
Do they have a picture
they can show it on the screen?
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Yes, in fact, we
do have a graphic
00:25:27.02\00:25:29.16
that we can put up on the screen
00:25:29.19\00:25:30.59
of this Bible study here.
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Within this one study alone,
there's 25 different lessons
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covering 25 different topics.
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That's correct.
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And the reason why
those particular 25 copy...
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I mean subjects is
because we did a survey
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of what do
people want to know now.
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Now there are many questions
but we just took the top 25
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and went to them for
the Bible for the answer.
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That's the reason why
when we first got this printed,
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the first group of
people of a particular church,
00:25:59.22\00:26:02.92
I think it was
the Church of Ghana.
00:26:02.96\00:26:04.33
They got these lessons
00:26:04.36\00:26:05.86
because it benefits
anybody that has a Bible.
00:26:05.89\00:26:08.86
See that's what
they're directed for.
00:26:08.90\00:26:10.60
It's not directed
for any other group.
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But if you have a Bible
and that's what would changes
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the lives of men
is the Word of God.
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And this is all
about the Word of God.
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We have over 500 Bible
texts that's in that lesson.
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Do you
understand what I'm saying?
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Over 500.
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What it does? It
points them directly.
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These are about 500,
it's not what about they,
00:26:28.65\00:26:31.25
let's not compare
them when you look at
00:26:31.29\00:26:33.05
there are 31, 173 Bible texts
00:26:33.09\00:26:35.59
is quickly you're going
right to what you want to know.
00:26:35.62\00:26:38.33
And that's what we have there.
Yes, and directly to the Word.
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That is not
opinion-based, it's factual,
00:26:42.06\00:26:44.67
from the Word of God.
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In fact, there's no
comment in it at all.
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The only thing that's
not there that's in the Bible
00:26:48.00\00:26:50.74
is our address how to get more.
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That's it.
00:26:53.81\00:26:55.41
Everything else
is out of the Bible.
00:26:55.44\00:26:58.11
See UPMI is not in the Bible.
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And the great
thing about that is
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because when
you're giving a study
00:27:03.79\00:27:05.95
and they're going
directly to their Bible,
00:27:05.99\00:27:08.06
they can't
argue with their Bible
00:27:08.09\00:27:09.79
with what the Word of God says.
00:27:09.82\00:27:11.26
You know, by you
saying that, Jason,
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reminds me of a lady calling me,
00:27:13.29\00:27:14.90
she said, "I'm in tears.
00:27:14.93\00:27:17.23
I was taught this by
my Bible is saying this.
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What do I do?"
00:27:19.67\00:27:21.00
I said, "Well,
what do you want to do.
00:27:21.04\00:27:22.37
Make a choice.
00:27:22.40\00:27:23.74
Do you want to go by
what somebody told you
00:27:23.77\00:27:25.74
or what your Bible says?"
00:27:25.77\00:27:27.11
She said, "I have to go
by what my Bible is saying."
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And that's what
we want people to do
00:27:29.71\00:27:31.28
because that's
what salvation is,
00:27:31.31\00:27:33.68
is what God has said to
you, not what He said to me
00:27:33.72\00:27:37.35
because all of us
has different gifts
00:27:37.39\00:27:39.02
like all of us have
different thumb prints,
00:27:39.05\00:27:40.79
like I mentioned earlier.
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So may God bless you.
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So whatever you can do,
let people go by the book.
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If you want blessing, pass
out What the Bible Says Lessons.
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Amen. Well, thank you
so much for joining us.
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Thank you for your passion
and for spreading the gospel
00:27:52.47\00:27:55.00
of Jesus Christ
around the world.
00:27:55.04\00:27:56.94
And thank you for joining us.
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Well, we've reached
the end of another program.
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Join us next time.
00:28:00.64\00:28:01.98
And remember, it
just wouldn't be the same
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without you.
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