How do you go on after you
lost the love of your life?
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Stay tuned to find out.
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My name is Yvonne Lewis, and
you are watching Urban Report
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Hello and
welcome to Urban Report.
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Our Dare to Dream
viewers know Dr. Kim.
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She and her late
husband Arthur Nolen co-hosted
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Making It Work.
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Our first Dare to Dream
relationship focused program
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Arthur has since passed,
but Dr. Kim is determined
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to continue their work
and she is sharing the gospel
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with everyone she meets.
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I went to Detroit to film her
new program, Live to Be Well,
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that will air on D2D.
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I got a chance to talk to
her and her daughter Erin,
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take a look.
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What a blessing it is
for me to be sitting here
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on the set of Live to Be Well.
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It's kind of bittersweet,
because the last time I was
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here, Jason and I and
our crew were taping Dr. Kim
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and Arthur Nolen, and
since then, our dear Arthur has
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passed away, but Dr Kim is
continuing and she is hosting
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a new program on the
Dare to Dream Network,
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I'll Live to Be Well,
and I'm super excited,
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and I'm super excited to
have you sitting in that chair.
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Yes we are. Hi
Erin. Hello. Dr. Kim. Yes.
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You and Erin have been
on quite a journey. Yes.
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And I want to talk to both
of you about how Arthur's death
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has impacted you.
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I want to start with
Erin. Erin I haven't ever had a
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conversation with you really
and I'm interested in finding
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out, how have you been
doing since your dad's passing?
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Well, I've been
coping in different ways,
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I have my friends,
that really helps a lot,
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and just going out with them,
and I have them supporting me
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in different ways.
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Like to take my mind off
of things but, I've been good
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to be honest with
you. It's a some...like...
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when I notice the
fact when people say,
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I think about a person
every day, that has passed away.
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That actually is very
true, you go in the rooms
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and you don't see him or
like you want to do something
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and they are not there and
they can't take you anywhere,
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oh, okay, I see what
you mean by that. Um hum.
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It's something that kind
of hits you in waves right,
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so you might be doing
okay for a minute and then,
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(snapping of fingers) something
will remind you of that person
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and something happens and
then you are like, oh wow,
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you know, my dad's not here.
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But we just praise God
for the resurrection right.
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Amen! Because we know this
is just a temporary situation.
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That's right.
What grade are you in?
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I'm going to be a
senior... Ohh. this Fall. Wow.
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And you have, you know,
you are very much like your
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mom and dad. Now your mom
is like Renaissance woman.
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She got so much going
on, it makes your head spin.
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But you have another
kind of career on the side,
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tell us about some of
the things that you do.
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I act and do modeling,
so, and films, so and theater,
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so that's a lot of
things that I do in music.
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Um, I want to major in filming
and theater and minor in music,
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studio engineering producing
and different things like that.
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Uh, I'll see which
college... So you have the arts.
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Yes. And you've been
doing some acting and...Yes.
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Do you do Christian
plays and that kind of thing?
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Do it all. Christian
plays, Christian commercials...
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When I was away at school
last semester, I did a lot
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of Christian plays because
it was a Seventh-day Adventist
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School. Good, good. One of the
things that you might want to
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keep in mind, because I used to
be in the arts for many years,
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and one of the things
that you want to keep in mind
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is, it's very seductive.
It will tend to pull you away
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if you don't hold on to Jesus.
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So, it's very tempting,
but you have to hold on because
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you can find yourself
just doing little compromises
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here and there,
and before you know it,
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you are all the way over
here when you should have
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stayed on that
straight and narrow.
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So, just a word from
somebody who has been there,
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just be careful.
Amen. Be careful.
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Don't let the
enemy pull you out.
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I think you are very gifted
like your mom, like your mom.
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Dr. Kim. Yes mam.
What have you been doing?
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Listen, just trying find
that balance and adjustment
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since I was last with you
and we did the memorial program
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for Arthur. Making sure I
take good care of the girls and
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maintaining, because I
have an older daughter Mica
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who lives in Huntsville,
Alabama, who's also in
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you know,
television broadcast and radio.
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So, it's all like they are
all following that first career
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that I've had and now
back to Dare to Dream.
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Um, I've done a lot of
fashion, my own fashion line
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out and yes, this is
one of my designs, so I have
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been doing a lot
of online businesses.
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The counseling
clinics, I've maintained the
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counseling clinics that...
That you and your husband
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got together. Yes, yes.
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I started it before I
met Arthur, he joined me
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and 26 years together, we
were in practice right here
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you know, in this office.
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So when I come here every
day, I go right past his office
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and it's there, I have not
really changed, I've added...
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I put up more plaques,
more things to remember,
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so when people come, they know,
and I want the people to know
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when people miss something,
his clients, people who call
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didn't know, who want
to meet with him again.
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So there are some
people who didn't know...
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Oh, they still
don't know and they call,
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and they want to meet with
him and Karen our administrator,
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I'm so sorry to tell
you that he has passed away.
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So a lot of our
couples we have been seeing
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two or three years who
want to come back for a check-up
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therapy, I call it a
check-up therapy...Yes.
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They are like
what? They didn't know.
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So I am still mailing
out programs and information
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and letting them know and um...
Because he touched so many lives
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and he's still
touching our lives.
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I love having Erin home
because I am not in the home
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alone, but she's on her way
out...Did you say something?
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No. (Laughter) I do, you know,
she's getting re-acquainted
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with her chores and
responsibility because
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that's very
important. Ahh. You do chores?
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Yes. What are your chores Erin?
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The whole upstairs, whatever
she finds and searches for
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to clean. Who does
that remind you of?
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Oh, I guess you miss your mom
and daddy so much, it's amazing.
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So, you have all of upstairs?
Basically all of upstairs.
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Sometimes I vacuum the
family room, most of the time
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I vacuum the family
room and the kitchen,
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I will sweep the kitchen and
do the dishes. How many dishes?
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How many are usually there.
Because we use paper ware...
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Yeah. Okay. You
know, it's not that much.
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We just use paper plates, we
still use Tupperware and forks
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and basic silverware and cups
and different things like that.
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It's just whatever
she finds for me to clean.
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Why do you thing
chores are important?
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I mean, it just helps
you organize, like sometimes
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you don't have to
do chores every day.
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As a teenager, you don't have
to do chores every day, I mean
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you don't need to
do chores every day.
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Like, if you make your bed...
Okay, yes, you make your bed,
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clean the bathroom, you
don't need to clean the bathroom
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every day. Like, you
don't have to do that,
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or you don't have to
vacuum the hallway every day.
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I feel like this. That if you
use it, you need to clean it...
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Every day. You know,
the bowls need to be cleaned
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you need, excuse me,
you just made me laugh.
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Um, and we had an incident
last night, I said, did you
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vacuum? But when I came back,
I saw certain things still where
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I left them, and purposely.
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Who purposely leaves
things on the floor? Umm.
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She is making sure you
do your cleaning...Right!
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I left little lint I left
little...I said I want to see.
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So I said, did you
vacuum? So I was furious.
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So she came upstairs and I
said Erin, did you move the rugs
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out of the hall area? And
I moved the rugs, and I said,
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you didn't vacuum. But
mom, I didn't move the rugs.
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And I said, can we start
again, because I want her to be
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sufficient when she goes...
She's been to boarding school,
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but she had a single room.
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She lived alone...
And I kept it clean.
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And she kept the
clean room checks.
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But she went from
home being in her own room,
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boarding school, where
it's not going to be like that.
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Now she's going to be
going to another school,
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Oakwood Academy. Ahhh!
She will be living with her
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sister, she got the whole
upstairs, so she is still like
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living alone. Yes.
And I keep it clean.
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I kept it clean at boarding
school, I kept it perfect...
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But never get issue
with your room check.
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Exactly, and she
always said, well,
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if you ever go to boarding
school, I don't know how
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you are going to
keep your room clean.
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I heard it the first
weekend I got there and I got a
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certificate for keeping
my room clean and I said,
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you always said I
wouldn't keep my room clean
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this is what, and
then, this is what happened.
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And then like I never got
a, you know how they have a
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boarding, I mean
a room check score?
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Um hum. Well, I've never
got below an eight. Out of ten?
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Out of ten. Okay. And I probably
got an eight because I didn't
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take the trash out that day.
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But you know like...
Or I probably got an eight
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because I didn't put skip
on the day that I could skip
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room check. My room was
still clean but there was just
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little things. Well now
let me just tell you in defense
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of your mom. Yes. She's
helping you...That's right.
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One of the things that I
have seen with adults were,
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at the top of their
field, is that they had parents
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that had them do chores.
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They had parents that had them
do things with a standard of
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excellence, so that they
didn't.. Now it's a pain,
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when you are a
teenager, it's a big pain.
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It was a pain. It is. It
is. But you will be so happy
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when you grow up, if the
Lord hasn't come back by then,
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because you will be good at
whatever you do. That's right.
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At whatever you do. Those same
skills, that same skill set,
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generalizes to life,
and you are going to be good
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at what you do.
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My mother was hard on me, dad
was a little bit laid back...
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Oh, my father
was really laid back.
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And I see what he would do
when he like, when my mom was
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like Arthur, you
didn't clean this...
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He would just look at her some-
times...And I'm like, I would
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understanding, but
now I really see like WOW!
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I see, I can tell
what my dad was thinking
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when she would
say things like that.
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Or he didn't do this, or
how come this is still here
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and he would just look at her...
I didn't understand, I'm like...
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I understand now.
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My thing is if you use a spoon,
you are standing right there
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you are laying it in
the sink, why not wash it.
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He used Tupperware
yesterday, it was in the sink.
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You didn't wash it? I did
wash it and put it on the side.
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What this is, is this is
so interesting because this is
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mother/daughter teenage
stuff. This is what most mothers
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with teens go through,
this is nothing unusual.
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I'll tell you right
now. But, but look how I'm...
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Your mom is really
helping you. That's right.
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To be a really strong woman of
God. Cause you see...Excellent!
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You see the standards
of how I run my office,
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the standards of
how I hands of praise.
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The standards of being
an officer in the church.
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Those are the same
standards my mother and father
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would use when I would
clean, organize, make a bed.
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Now, I could have said something
about that bed this morning
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you know, because it wasn't
all the way down to the edge
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of the bed. Like... I
like it to the edge...
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It's not even. Are
you a little obsessive?
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Yes. Yes, I am a compulsive.
Are you a little OCD? Little.
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It's a lot. Ok.
Yesterday she wanted the trash
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can, like the trash
can, like the trash can knot,
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it was on the side,
she wanted it in the back.
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She had me go through every
room to fix the trash cans.
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You know, you don't want the
trash can knot looking forward
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when you tie the bag
on. I have those clear bags
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They just think it's trash...
No, but I can see the bag
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knot, I want it back to
the wall, I don't want to...
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Because it just complicates
the corner of my bathroom.
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when I look down and see
that trash bag...Cause remember
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my father will look at it...
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You know when, it's funny
cause when your dad and your mom
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were co-hosting Making it
Well, that was...Making it Work.
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Making it Work, I'm
sorry, I'm combining the two,
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I'm combining the
new one and the old one.
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Making it Work. When they
were co-hosting that program,
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they would have little banter,
kind of similar to what's
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going on here, and it
was just really really funny.
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But let's talk a bit Dr.
Kim about Live To Be Well
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and what is that program going
to do? How is it different,
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besides the obvious absence
of Arthur? How is it different
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from Making It Work?
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Well, Making It Work
really focused on relationships.
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The dynamics of family engaging
and how Arthur and I would
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work together to make
sure that the couples looked at
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different tools and how
they were going to be able to
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transition and maintain
their marriage or those who were
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engaged, but we
really focused on couples
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and their relationship.
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Live To Be Well will encompass
everything from relationships
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to professions, um, working
with teens, purity, celibacy,
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cooking, finances. We
want people to live to be well
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to overall look at their lives
and say, how can I raise the
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standards, how can I
look at my value system,
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how can I look at how I
associate myself with the
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dynamics of my society and
then how and what role do I
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play in that. So we want
Live To Be Well to be real,
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reach everyone, like
wow, she has teenagers,
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she has her own daughter
on the program, she has...
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um, we had a seven year old...
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That's something that
Making It Work did not feature.
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So, we want to encompass
everyone so everyone can
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identify with the program.
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So you are really looking
holistically at life and saying
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these are the areas of
life, that if we can really work
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through these areas, we can
be well. It's kind of a holistic
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view. Oh yes. So you talk about
finances...What are some of the
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topics that you talk about? Yes.
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We're talking about
finances, inner city finances...
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You know, how are
communities are being bombarded
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with different avenues of
check cashing on every street.
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Um, they live from...Ryan
Mack talked about living from
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paycheck to Tuesday.
So paychecks on Friday,
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you are broke on Tuesday.
I love that, that just really
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penetrated my soul.
And you had Ryan Mack who
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is the host of Dollars and
Sense on Dare To Dream so...
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that's awesome. And he's
a Detroiter and you are a
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Detroiter, so that
works out great...a blessing.
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Looking at how we need to
look at pastoral care in our
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communities. We are looking
at how God restored life,
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we're looking at relationships
between...within teenagers and
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young adults. Being Seventh
Day - Adventists and being
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committed, not losing site, not
going to the left, not going to
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the right, we are staying
focused...and how to maintain...
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we are looking at how we
can help our young people today
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stay on track with God.
So we are looking at a lot of
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different avenues. We are
looking at healthy eating...
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I have Dr. Patricia
Ferguson on, my former OBGYN,
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talking about different health
issues, and it's all people,
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we need to be healthy in what
we need to do, and we tend to
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wait until it's too
late, and we need to go now.
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Not too long ago I was
ill, and I kept putting it off,
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putting it off, and that
program really hit home with me,
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we must take care of our bodies.
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So we were just talking
about some of everything.
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Ahh, it's going to
be a wonderful program.
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It's exciting to see how
God is continuing to use you.
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What made you decide to go
on on your own without Arthur
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co-hosting? Well at
first I didn't want to,
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I really didn't, I have been,
we have been by each other's
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side for so long, you know
we were the glue to each other,
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and to go on without
him, just didn't feel right.
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And then I prayed to the
Lord, and my marketing director
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of my company said to
me, you know, you need to be
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doing something on social
network, I was like no I'm done
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with all of that. No we
need to do something to look at
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overall living. And he and I
were talking and we came with
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the idea, Live To Be Well.
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Didn't want to do that
either, just leave me alone,
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let me just, you know, I
was going to close the office,
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I really didn't want to do that,
I didn't want to do anything.
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You know, not so much depression
but I needed to find a
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new direction that everywhere
I went wasn't a memory...
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Not that I was trying to
forget him, but I needed some
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healing time. Yes. But
what I found out for me,
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getting right back on
the boat was healing me,
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and so Live To
Be Well was birthed.
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And then I call you with
an idea, I want to continue
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the program and we talked
about having another co-host
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and I said no, maybe a
guest co-host in the future,
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but let's go forth
with Live To Be Well
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and that's how it was birthed.
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And I know Arthur...Excuse
me. would...Excuse me.
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Would want me...I'm getting
a little emotional. Yeah.
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Would want me to
um, go forward. Yes.
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And then be an example for
my children, that difficulties
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will rise, we're going to have
tragedy, but we are more than
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overcomers in Christ Jesus,
we're more than conquerors.
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And for them to see me
go forth maintaining myself,
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not letting myself go to waste,
keeping the business going,
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helping others. You know,
So send I you. Yes. You know.
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Who can God use? Use me Lord.
Yes. Not knowing that it was
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going to just keep
going and keep going and, and,
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now I am back to
just speaking engagements,
00:20:11.44\00:20:13.68
back to starting my
clothing line, Live To Be Well.
00:20:13.71\00:20:17.61
The business, the ministry
of the counseling clinic is
00:20:17.65\00:20:22.02
more vibrant than ever,
and so I am going forth,
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Yes. because God is with me.
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Praise the Lord for that.
We praise the Lord for that.
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What would you say have been
the greatest challenges to you
00:20:30.76\00:20:36.23
since deciding to go on?
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You know, what would you say
have been the biggest obstacles?
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Feeling my loyalty to
God, being not angry at God
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for taking my
husband, putting him to sleep.
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But at the same
time, I got to honor You.
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So it was a mixed emotion to
deal with my feeling with God
00:21:01.22\00:21:10.10
and allow myself to trust Him
and then continue to serve Him
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because He gave me these talents
and gifts and as a little girl
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I had severe stuttering,
I was a severe stutterer,
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and I am ADHD, I went through
special needs classes from the
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sixth grade all the way through
graduate school having tutors,
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but I say God, you didn't
bring me this far to leave me.
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And so therefore, I must get up,
and I know me, if I am not busy,
00:21:36.99\00:21:42.60
I can't keep still, I can't
be still, I've got to be finding
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things for people to do, and um,
I saw that, and trying to help
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people find their niche.
Helping people to understand...
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And do you know, since Arthur's
passing, more people have been
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calling for
Christian counseling. Hmm.
00:22:02.42\00:22:05.99
So I know, and every time I
get ready to close my doors,
00:22:06.02\00:22:08.46
the phone would ring and I
would say it's not my time,
00:22:08.49\00:22:11.79
it's not my time. And then
when you said yes, then I said,
00:22:11.83\00:22:16.46
it's not my time to end this.
00:22:16.50\00:22:18.53
Absolutely. So I
will continue to go forth.
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So that was one of the largest
challenges, allowing God to
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heal me. And I am still healing.
Um hum. And you can't put a
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time frame on this...That's
right. Working with my children,
00:22:30.65\00:22:33.98
being mom, and being a single
mom, that is a challenge because
00:22:34.02\00:22:38.39
Arthur was laid back, he
was quiet, leave the baby alone.
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Let the baby...she can do
it later...Come on Erin, we are
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out of here. Exactly. Umm.
He would...Why are you fussing?
00:22:48.50\00:22:53.03
Is it really that big a
deal? He'd be laying in bed,
00:22:53.07\00:22:56.27
he would get up and go down-
stairs and wash that one fork
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because I couldn't sleep.
Umm. He said you have issues.
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That is what he would
say. Yes. You have issues.
00:23:01.84\00:23:04.65
But we worked, we made it
work. You did. Because we were a
00:23:04.68\00:23:08.52
balance. You did. And I
remember explaining to Arthur
00:23:08.55\00:23:12.92
why I was OCD. My father
was very organized and clean,
00:23:12.95\00:23:21.53
my mom too, but when my parents
got divorced, I would clean,
00:23:21.56\00:23:25.90
clean, clean, hoping
that my dad would come home.
00:23:25.93\00:23:28.77
I said daddy I cleaned this,
I did this the way you like it,
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will you come home? He
said no baby I can't come home.
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And so I became that force
in the house, always keeping
00:23:35.84\00:23:39.98
things clean and organized, I
had three siblings, but my mom
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always called on me
because my father trained me
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to mow the lawn, rake,
organize, do everything.
00:23:46.52\00:23:50.59
He alphabetized all
things in the cabinet.
00:23:50.63\00:23:53.09
So he was OCD. Was your
dad OCD too? Yes, he was OCD,
00:23:53.13\00:23:57.67
He was very OCD. But out of
all of the children, I really
00:23:57.70\00:24:02.04
pulled to him, and then when
my mom, my mom got depressed
00:24:02.07\00:24:05.77
after the divorce and I started
doing everything in the house.
00:24:05.81\00:24:09.48
I was the oldest daughter,
but not the oldest sibling,
00:24:09.51\00:24:13.08
but I had two older brothers,
but I did everything in and out.
00:24:13.11\00:24:17.15
So that transitioned in my
life, even in boarding school,
00:24:17.19\00:24:19.85
I cleaned the rooms in boarding
school for...they paid me.
00:24:19.89\00:24:24.23
Cause these girls didn't
know how to clean their rooms.
00:24:24.26\00:24:26.33
In the dorm at Oakwood, I was
like really, really, this is how
00:24:26.36\00:24:31.83
you organize your closet, so
people would pay me and I made
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lots of money,
I made my tuition.
00:24:34.50\00:24:36.44
Wow! Yes! Organizing their
rooms for room check, cause they
00:24:36.47\00:24:40.38
would get fined
$25... See that is...
00:24:40.41\00:24:45.48
that's making lemonade
out of lemons. That's right.
00:24:45.51\00:24:47.98
If you're OCD, you put that
really... That's it..To good use
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and made your
tuition. I made my tuition.
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Yes I did, I made up for
whatever I didn't make working
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in the Cafe, I was a hostess
in Cafe. Umm. You know greeting
00:24:57.63\00:25:00.93
everyone, I was a greeter,
but I still needed extra money.
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You know what I see with you
Dr. Kim is that you deal with...
00:25:04.30\00:25:11.87
you practice what you preach,
in that you're dealing with life
00:25:11.91\00:25:17.25
from a Biblical place and you're
taking bad situations and trying
00:25:17.28\00:25:23.05
to make something
good come from it. Yes.
00:25:23.08\00:25:25.95
And that is a Biblical concept,
but a lot of people don't
00:25:25.99\00:25:31.96
do that. Yes. Um. What
about you Erin, in one minute,
00:25:31.99\00:25:36.06
what would you tell young people
who are dealing with grief,
00:25:36.10\00:25:39.83
what would you tell them is
the best way to get through?
00:25:39.87\00:25:44.21
Um, I would say with God
and your siblings and whatever
00:25:44.24\00:25:53.05
parent you have with you,
and friends, much friends,
00:25:53.08\00:25:58.22
not necessarily distractions,
but supporters to help you
00:25:58.25\00:26:02.96
to get through whatever
process you are in basically.
00:26:02.99\00:26:07.46
So you get your support system
from God, and from your friends,
00:26:07.50\00:26:12.20
and from your parent. Yes.
00:26:12.23\00:26:14.87
That's good. And
from my siblings.
00:26:14.90\00:26:16.81
Yeah. Dr. Kim do you
have a quick closing thought?
00:26:16.84\00:26:20.41
I just want to say to everyone,
pace yourself and pour into
00:26:20.44\00:26:24.81
your children, love them...
I am going to try to find
00:26:24.85\00:26:27.88
a little bit more balance
in myself, I am in counseling,
00:26:27.92\00:26:31.92
Erin will be going in
counseling...because I want her
00:26:31.95\00:26:35.29
to understand the importance
of her healing. Um hum.
00:26:35.32\00:26:39.16
And being able to talk
freely. So just pace yourself,
00:26:39.19\00:26:42.76
be open, listen, and be able
to move forward in Jesus Christ.
00:26:42.80\00:26:49.27
Thank you. Thank you so
much for being so transparent,
00:26:49.30\00:26:52.97
you know, you really kind
of gave us a little look into
00:26:53.01\00:26:57.48
the dynamic between you.
It's real. But it's real.
00:26:57.51\00:27:01.58
And this program
Live To Be Well is real.
00:27:01.62\00:27:04.62
So make sure you
tune in. God Bless.
00:27:04.65\00:27:07.52
It was so great to be with
them, with Dr. Kim and Erin,
00:27:09.82\00:27:13.70
and just to kind of see
how they are making it through
00:27:13.73\00:27:17.93
this difficult time, and
Dr. Kim is a riot, Erin is too.
00:27:17.97\00:27:22.87
So I was really blessed,
and I was blessed by the
00:27:22.90\00:27:25.27
other programs that are
going to be on Live To Be Well.
00:27:25.31\00:27:28.58
It is an excellent, excellent
program so make sure that you
00:27:28.61\00:27:33.38
tune in, check our
website for the schedule,
00:27:33.42\00:27:36.28
and make sure that you tune
in and watch Live To Be Well.
00:27:36.32\00:27:39.29
The focus is going to
be on the whole person,
00:27:39.32\00:27:42.62
it's kind of integrated
where it's the body and emotions
00:27:42.66\00:27:47.90
and
spirituality and all of that.
00:27:47.93\00:27:51.77
Well, we've reached
the end of another program,
00:27:51.80\00:27:54.70
and I can't
believe our time is up.
00:27:54.74\00:27:56.67
Thanks for tuning in and
join us next time because
00:27:56.71\00:27:59.37
you know what, it
just wouldn't be the same,
00:27:59.41\00:28:01.28
Without You!
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