There is
definitely a hidden agenda
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when it comes to
sexuality in our society.
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Stay tuned to
find out what it is.
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My name is Yvonne Lewis.
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And I'm Jason Bradley.
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And you're
watching Urban Report.
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Hello, and
welcome to Urban Report.
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Today, our
guest is Raymond King,
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CEO of Securing Hope
Ministry, speaker and author.
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We're so happy that
he could make it back
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to continue the conversation
about the hidden agenda.
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Welcome to Urban
Report, Brother Raymond.
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Thanks for having
me. Glad to be back.
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This is part two
because you and Jason
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had a great
interview on part one.
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Yes.
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And he said you
had to come back.
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I'm glad to be back
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because there's so
much more to discuss.
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Yes. Yes.
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And we're glad to
have you back too.
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Let's do a little recap
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of what was
discussed on part one,
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for those who missed it.
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Let's talk a little
about what that was about.
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What was part one about.
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Well, he asked
about our ministry,
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but primarily we
were trying to establish
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that there is a hidden agenda
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to what I call
corrupted generation.
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And we talked about
how it was being used
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or how it was being seen
in the public school sector.
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I am afraid of
how the general public
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is not aware of this
agenda in our public schools.
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The public schools are
now being used as a instrument
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or industry of indoctrination
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as opposed to
industry of education.
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And the enemy knows that
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since the vast
majority of our children
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including those
in our fellowship
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attend public schools.
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He knows that, the Bible says,
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"Train a child in
the way he should go
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when they're young,
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so when they get older,
would not depart from it."
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He understands that
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whatever we put
into our children
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when they are young
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it's going to adversely
affect their entire life.
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And what he is doing is,
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he's introducing principles
and concepts to our kids
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as early as age four.
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So that as they grow older,
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they are
embracing these concepts,
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he deals by
embracing these concepts
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he's changing the
morality of America.
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In actuality he's
changing morality of the home
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and he knows that
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if he changed the
morality of the family,
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he changed the
morality of the church.
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And so, it's a demonic agenda
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that unfortunately a lot of
our leaders are not aware of,
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and that's why it's
such a serious issue
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that we must expose and discuss.
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And you know what?
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That's also why
it's so important
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that education
begins in the home
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because culture is
constantly going to shift.
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But what the morals
that you instill in your kids
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in the home
will stick with them.
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Will stick with them.
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But God has warned us,
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my people are destroyed
for the lack of knowledge.
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And that's what's happening.
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Our parents don't
understand, in essence,
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it's like giving your
kids over to the heathens
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to train and to educate.
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And one of the ways
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they are doing is
through sexuality.
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Matter of fact, I can show
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that sexuality
is the main method
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by which Satan is
corrupting the generation.
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Things that they are
being taught are embracing.
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One of the
things that we discussed
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was the agenda to erase
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the boundaries of sexual
components of the family,
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male and female.
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Our kids are being taught
now that there is no such thing,
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it's just male and female.
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In one of my presentations
I have a video clip,
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and the school system
actually paid this organization
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to come into their
school system, elementary,
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and the man tells the children
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that sometimes you can
feel like being a male,
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sometimes you feel
like being a female,
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sometimes you can
feel like being both,
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or sometimes you
feel like being neither.
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He tried to get the
kids to understand that
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there's no such thing
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as just a male and
female structure anymore.
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There are other systems
that are teaching our kids
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that there are as many
as 63 different genders
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that they can choose from.
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And there are
some school systems...
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Such as what?
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Well, you have androgynous male,
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androgynous female,
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androgynous feminine male,
androgynous masculine female,
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you have cisgender,
as a matter of fact,
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you now are called
cisgender, that means that,
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we identify with our
biological sexual assignment
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and we are attracted
to the opposite gender.
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So we are called cisgender.
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Instead of heterosexual.
Instead of heterosexual.
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You have gender nonconforming.
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There are just so
many different things,
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that's confusion.
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And God says, I'm not
the author of confusion.
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That is what I was
just getting ready to say.
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A minute ago, that it sounds
like a bunch of confusion,
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instead of male and female,
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instead of
celebrating the differences
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between men and
women, and male and female
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you've got all these "genders"
that's just amazing to me.
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And what's so said, this is
what our kids are being taught.
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And the matter of
fact, in some school systems,
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they ask the parents,
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they ask the
child to let them know
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what gender they
want to be or refer to.
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I'm from North Carolina.
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Our Charlotte, North Carolina.
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In the school system there,
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they tell that
teacher do not respond
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to the kids as male or
female, you call them students,
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something, you
call them scholars,
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or I can't
remember other designation,
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but they're no
longer male or female.
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So in other words, the
teachers are not going to say,
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"Come on boys and
girls, let's do so and so."
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No, because you may have a child
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whose biological
gender assignment may be male,
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but he feels like he's a female.
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So by addressing him as male,
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you are not only
discriminating against him
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but you also are causing harm.
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You know what
strikes me with this,
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Brother Raymond is...
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the number of people
that have gender dysphoria,
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it's so minute.
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And yet we're
shifting the whole society
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to accommodate that.
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Now, I'm not saying that
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we shouldn't be
concerned about them,
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I think that they
should be taught and loved.
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But everything
is being focused on,
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you know, like sharing bathrooms
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and all of that kind
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for really minute
number of people in society.
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And it's saying to me
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that a small group of
people are pushing this agenda
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so hard and stuffing it
down the majority's throats.
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And it's insulting in terms of
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how it's being passed as
a civil right, so to speak.
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And, you know, I've seen
people go from gay to straight,
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straight to gay,
and back and forth.
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But I've never seen
anybody go from black to white,
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and white to black,
or Hispanic to black,
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or anything like that, you know.
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They change.
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Well, your mom said dysphoria.
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That's a term
that they've introduced
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to take away the
reality of it being a disorder.
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They replaced the word
disorder with dysphoria
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because they're
trying now to normalize it.
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And what's so sad
is, it's a disorder,
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it's not
natural, it's not normal.
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And what we must understand
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for the vast
majority of these individuals,
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there are gender disorder,
their identification disorder,
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or they are
attracted to the same gender
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is not the problem,
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it's a symptom
of a deeper problem.
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The vast majority of people
with gender identity disorder
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are individuals
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who have had some type of
unresolved childhood trauma
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that's never been resolved.
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And when we
understand the reality of this
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is really the demonic
agenda to introduce a mindset
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or introduce a reality
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that he knows is
going to destroy the family,
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because now you have individuals
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who are involved with
same gender relationships,
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and those individuals
are now raising children
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and a lot of these children
are adopted or they are...
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They've reached
beyond their coupleness
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and they're
bringing in the third party
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to be a surrogate or sperm donor
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or what have you to so
they can have children,
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and it's creating a
whole different dynamic
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that is so far
from God's purpose,
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it's confusion.
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And so, I tell people this.
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We need to look
beyond the superficial
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and start going lot deeper
because what the reality is,
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Satan is slowly creating
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a modern day Sodom and Gomorrah.
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And the Bible says in
the Spirit of Prophecy,
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it says that as if we
get closer to Christ coming
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and as it was
in the day of Noah,
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shall be coming
of the Son of Man.
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And what we are seeing now
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if we really
look at our society,
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we are now are repeating
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because the Bible said,
it's nothing new under the sun.
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We're repeating what
we saw back in the day.
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And I tell people this,
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God did not
destroy Sodom and Gomorrah
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or antediluvian world
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because of what we
call homosexuality.
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He destroyed it because
of a lack of righteousness.
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When Abraham asked God,
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he said, if you
find 50 righteous people,
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in all Sodom and
Gomorrah in the planes
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because not only was
Sodom and Gomorrah destroyed
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but the plane that
surrounded Sodom and Gomorrah
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were destroyed.
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He said, "If you find 50
righteous people we destroyed."
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God said, "Go and
find for the righteous."
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You know, he went all
the way down to 10 people,
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and the 10 people
included Lot his family.
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God said, "You found 10
righteous people in Sodom,
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I would not destroy it."
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God destroyed Sodom and Gomorrah
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because of a
lack of righteousness.
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But the indication of
the lack of righteousness
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was the
acceptance of perversion.
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And so America is actually
getting to the point where
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because of the
lack of righteousness,
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we are accepting the
same level of perversion,
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the same level of debauchery
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that we saw in
Sodom and Gomorrah.
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And what's so sad,
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our kids are the ones
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that now being
brought up in a world
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that's calling
evil good and good evil.
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And we're not doing
what we should be doing
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to empower them with knowledge,
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so that they would
not become victims.
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Absolutely.
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I think that, you
know, so often we just...
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We're so concerned with
being politically correct
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that we're not
dealing with what's happening.
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It's not, when you talk,
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when you speak
out on these things,
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it's not hate speech,
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it's not that you hate people
who are going through this.
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You actually love them
enough to share Jesus with them,
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to say there is a way
out of your brokenness.
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A lot of this is
indicative of brokenness.
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And I was really
made aware of that
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when we did Pure
Choices some time ago
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with Coming Up Ministries.
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And they interviewed some people
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who had been in the
gay lifestyle and got,
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well, in the gay culture,
they said don't use lifestyle.
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You know, all those
politically correct jargon,
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you have to
remember what to say.
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But, to me it's like,
you don't want to say,
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"Oh well, they have a
problem or it's a sin issue."
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It is a sin
issue, it is a problem.
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But we're all sinners.
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It's not like,
I'm saying, you know,
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it's not like we're saying,
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"Well, they're
sinners and we're not.
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We got it all together."
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No, we're saying, "Hey,
this is your area that of sin."
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Mine is something else,
yours is something else,
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yours is something else,
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we're all
sinners saved by grace.
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That's what it
is but we are afraid
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to talk about it
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because you
looked at us a hater.
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There's book
called "After the Ball".
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It was written in the late '70s.
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And those who know what it
is call it the Gay Manifesto.
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It's a book that was written
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to get America to
accept homosexuality.
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Now you know me, I'm
not politically correct.
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I don't want to be,
I'm buildly correct.
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Right. There you go.
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And being buildly correct,
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there's no such
thing as the homosexual
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because God didn't make it.
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They're all
heterosexual people with issues.
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God only made heterosexual.
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We got to quit
buying into that jargon
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because in that book
called "After the Ball",
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they came up with
the word homophobic.
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Their agenda was that,
when their agenda say that,
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in order for us to
quiet those who had the truth,
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we must demonize them,
we must call them haters,
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we must call them homophobic,
we must make them look bad.
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And so what's happened
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because that's
been done effectively,
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we are afraid to
call a spade a spade.
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We are afraid to
call some bad name
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because we are afraid
to be called homophobic
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or be called
haters what have you.
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In my point, they
didn't call me haters
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because the Bible says,
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"They will hate you
because you love me.
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They will hate you
because you speak the truth."
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But I love people
enough to call it what it is,
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because again the
same gender attraction,
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the individual who said
that, you know, I'm transgender
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and all of that the error,
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is somebody that
needs to hear a truth
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because the Bible says,
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"Only truth is
going to set them free."
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If we continue to
be politically correct,
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we are assisting Satan to
keep those people in bondage
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and God said, I'm going
to hold you accountable,
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because the Bible says,
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"If the wicked man
continues in his wickedness
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and you did not hymn the truth."
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He said, "Not only will he die,
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but his blood is
going to be in your hands,"
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the Bible says that.
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He said, "But, if
you give them the truth,
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and he hear the
truth, and he embraces it,
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you saved him."
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And so my whole point is
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we got to quit
trying to please everybody
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but only please God.
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And God said, "Only the
truth should be spoken."
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Now the problem we have
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in our culture
and in our churches,
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we don't understand
enough about this whole issue.
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And so we have
people, some people, you know,
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once out of the spectrum,
some people condemned those
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who have this type
of same sex attraction
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and other people embrace it.
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And so you're on
one side or the other,
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you must be balanced.
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But I believe if the parents,
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and this is what
really hurts me to my heart.
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The greatest number of
individuals in our church
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that condone and support
this are parents of children
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who come to them and say,
"Mom and Dad, I'm homosexual."
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And their parents embrace
because they love their child,
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they want to support their child
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but they don't
know enough to know that
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something's wrong with my child.
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It's not their attraction,
what caused the attraction,
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and that is what
need to be addressed
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because most of
those kids were molested
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and was never resolved.
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And so we have to
educate our pastor,
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we have to
educate our youth leaders,
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we have to educate our parents,
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we have to educate
them not to embrace this lie
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because they're not being
what they think they are being.
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You are enabling someone...
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I'll give you a good example.
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There is a disorder BIID.
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It's Body Identity
Integrity Disorder.
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These
individuals are individuals
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who don't feel natural
unless they chop off their leg,
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or chop off their ears, or
chop off part of their body.
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They call it trance able...
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They want to be disabled.
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They feel like I'm not whole
unless I chop something off.
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They really feel that.
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And I have a video
where this gentleman said,
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"I did not want my legs."
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He chopped off both his legs.
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He would do all type of things
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because that's what they do
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but every time he
try to infect himself,
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the doctor would
clip the infection.
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So he finally got a
chainsaw and cut his legs off.
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He said, "Now I
feel like I'm whole."
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I tell people the
same type of feeling
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that he had that
no one will embrace
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it's the same type of
feeling people have so,
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but I don't feel
like I'm a male or female.
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But those individuals
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go through the same
type of self mutilation,
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even though in different ways,
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they just go to their genitals
and mutilate themselves.
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But, it's the
same erroneous thing
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that they're believing,
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and I'm saying we
have to get out of this
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funk of embracing the
lie and enabling people
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who obviously have a disorder.
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It's not
dysphoria, it's a disorder.
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It's not
natural, it's not normal.
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And I don't know,
it's just frustrating to me
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that people of
truth are so impotent
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when it comes to
getting people out of darkness
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and bringing them
into the marvelous light.
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How is the body of
Christ being impacted by this?
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The body of Christ is being led
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by the same type
of demonic spirit.
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And a lot of
people have a good intent.
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But we've been led
to embrace the same lie
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that the people in
darkness are believing.
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For example,
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there the movie called
"Seventh-Gay Adventists"
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that's being shown all
over the United States.
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It's a movie that embraces
same gender relationships,
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it embraces transgenderism,
it embraces GLBT movement,
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all, you know,
in its entirety but,
00:19:21.16\00:19:23.29
instead of telling
people that you can change,
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that you can get deliverance,
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they're telling people
that God made them like that.
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What they're doing is
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they're preaching
a different gospel.
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And it is the different
gospel that the Bible says,
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if anyone
brings to you a gospel,
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even this if it's a
angel, the Bible says,
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if it's not the one
that I preached to you,
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the Bible say, "Let
him be accursed it."
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But instead of
us calling them out,
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we are allowing them
to spread that information
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all over the creation,
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it may cause
there's no counterbalance,
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a lot of parents, a lot
of individual who are broken,
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a lot of people who are confused
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are now embracing it,
00:20:00.76\00:20:02.16
because the movie
is done in a manner
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that makes embracing
error the right thing to do.
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Another movie is
called "More Room at a Table",
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had the same type of method,
the same type of movement.
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And what's
happening when God said,
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"My people are
destroyed of lack of knowledge."
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The enemy is making sure
00:20:24.02\00:20:26.39
that anytime a discussion
about sexuality is brought up,
00:20:26.42\00:20:30.43
people pushed it away.
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I don't want to hear,
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we should not be
talking about this.
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And I'm telling you,
it should be forefront,
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it should be to the forefront
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because that
what's the enemy is using
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most
successfully to destroy people
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should be that focus of
the church to expose him,
00:20:45.47\00:20:49.74
to take away his weapon,
00:20:49.78\00:20:51.41
but instead of doing that
we're hush-hushing about it,
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we don't feel
comfortable about it.
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And our kids...
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There are organizations
on all of our campuses
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across America that
when kids leave home
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to go to college
and they are confused,
00:21:06.90\00:21:09.10
or they are broken, or
they have been turned out.
00:21:09.13\00:21:13.54
There're organizations on
campus that would make sure
00:21:13.57\00:21:17.11
that they remain
in their brokenness,
00:21:17.14\00:21:18.71
that they remain in
their false sexual identity.
00:21:18.74\00:21:22.14
And again with some of
our kids to be corrupted
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and not only corrupted
00:21:25.91\00:21:27.25
but now they are
being used by the enemy
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to corrupt others as well.
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When you ask me about
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what the body
of Christ is doing?
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It's doing absolutely nothing
00:21:34.36\00:21:36.39
that it should be to expose
00:21:36.42\00:21:38.93
this weapon of mass destruction.
00:21:38.96\00:21:41.86
And when you have total...
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The last time I was with
Jason, I discussed with him,
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one of the reasons that
00:21:51.11\00:21:52.91
our past
president was embracing this
00:21:52.94\00:21:55.81
and how he was promoting it
because the church he attends,
00:21:55.84\00:21:59.31
United Church of Christ, UCC,
00:21:59.35\00:22:01.48
that entire denomination
says that God created this,
00:22:01.52\00:22:06.35
that God used this.
00:22:06.39\00:22:07.72
So his 20 years of church,
that's all he's ever heard
00:22:07.76\00:22:10.86
but there are
other denominations,
00:22:10.89\00:22:12.99
there are other organizations
00:22:13.03\00:22:14.76
that are now promoting it
00:22:14.80\00:22:16.26
under the
guiles of Christianity.
00:22:16.30\00:22:18.53
And so when you have
someone who says I'm a pastor,
00:22:18.57\00:22:21.80
we have our churches said,
00:22:21.84\00:22:23.94
"No, we are the
church of the living God
00:22:23.97\00:22:25.97
and they're promoting the error,
00:22:26.01\00:22:28.24
but you have those in
light they say nothing
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then those in
darkness only hear the one,
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the false gospel.
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The church in California
00:22:35.42\00:22:38.22
that had ordained the
first transgender female,
00:22:38.25\00:22:42.06
which is really a
male, ordained as an elder,
00:22:42.09\00:22:46.90
but yet they are
listed as one of our churches
00:22:46.93\00:22:49.36
in North American division.
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I'm saying how can it happen?
00:22:51.03\00:22:52.90
Now, again, this is not a
condemnation about anybody.
00:22:52.93\00:22:55.84
This is just the
truth, it's reality.
00:22:55.87\00:22:58.01
And I'm concerned about it
because God is not pleased.
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Our kids need to have
what does saith the Lord,
00:23:02.38\00:23:06.61
because they're living in
a world that's gone crazy.
00:23:06.65\00:23:09.78
Right. Yeah.
00:23:09.82\00:23:11.15
And today, it doesn't seem like,
00:23:11.19\00:23:13.15
it does saith the Lord,
00:23:13.19\00:23:14.52
it seems like it's
more of a do as thy will.
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You know, people are
operating off of feelings
00:23:16.52\00:23:18.49
and going with
the cultural shifts
00:23:18.53\00:23:20.16
and the cultural norms
00:23:20.20\00:23:21.53
as opposed to basing
everything off the principles
00:23:21.56\00:23:24.87
that are found in the Bible.
00:23:24.90\00:23:26.63
Well, recently
there had been an uproar
00:23:26.67\00:23:29.70
because of well
known people in Hollywood,
00:23:29.74\00:23:32.94
who have been
exposed in sexual misconduct.
00:23:32.97\00:23:36.54
But what they
don't really understand
00:23:36.58\00:23:38.11
and really realize
is Hollywood is a hotbed
00:23:38.15\00:23:41.82
for pedophiles and pedophilia.
00:23:41.85\00:23:44.65
And there are many,
many, many, many, many children
00:23:44.69\00:23:49.26
who are now being
molested and corrupted.
00:23:49.29\00:23:54.53
And now they grew up
00:23:54.56\00:23:56.36
to now become
molesters and corrupters.
00:23:56.40\00:23:59.43
And I'm telling people
that we have to break the cycle
00:23:59.47\00:24:03.71
because 80% of individuals
00:24:03.74\00:24:06.84
who molest children
were themselves molested.
00:24:06.88\00:24:09.91
And so there's the
demonic seed has been planted
00:24:09.94\00:24:12.95
and all this is a
part of this agenda
00:24:12.98\00:24:16.45
because Satan knows the more
he can get corrupted sexually,
00:24:16.48\00:24:20.76
the more unnatural appetites
are going to be created.
00:24:20.79\00:24:24.06
And those
individuals are going to grow up
00:24:24.09\00:24:25.99
to not only carry on this error
00:24:26.03\00:24:29.56
but they're going to bring
other people into this error.
00:24:29.60\00:24:32.37
And I believe
that God has created
00:24:32.40\00:24:37.77
in us such a marvelous truth,
00:24:37.81\00:24:40.91
if we would just be
brave enough to discuss it,
00:24:40.94\00:24:43.35
and brave enough to proclaim it,
00:24:43.38\00:24:46.48
the Bible said the truth
00:24:46.51\00:24:47.85
will shake the
foundation of hill itself.
00:24:47.88\00:24:50.89
But we're afraid to
call it by its name.
00:24:50.92\00:24:53.86
It's so similar to, you know,
the whole idea of homophobia
00:24:53.89\00:24:58.89
and somebody
being called homophobic,
00:24:58.93\00:25:01.16
and somebody
being called a racist.
00:25:01.20\00:25:02.70
Nobody wants to be called that.
00:25:02.73\00:25:04.07
So you back off from it
00:25:04.10\00:25:05.93
because you don't
want to say anything
00:25:05.97\00:25:08.00
that offends somebody
or make them think that,
00:25:08.04\00:25:10.97
you know, you hate
them, no, you love them.
00:25:11.01\00:25:15.24
That's the whole idea.
00:25:15.28\00:25:16.61
It's about love,
it's not about hate,
00:25:16.64\00:25:18.08
it's about love saying,
00:25:18.11\00:25:19.58
we have the
tools to set you free.
00:25:19.61\00:25:23.12
Jesus is the way. Yes, yes.
00:25:23.15\00:25:24.62
And it's also the
way that they pass that
00:25:24.65\00:25:27.72
which was the whole
civil rights type of thing
00:25:27.76\00:25:33.09
that they gave it.
00:25:33.13\00:25:34.46
Well, this is interesting.
00:25:34.50\00:25:37.40
Civil rights,
according to the law,
00:25:37.43\00:25:40.44
according to the
government can be conferred
00:25:40.47\00:25:43.17
on any group that can't change.
00:25:43.20\00:25:46.81
You mentioned earlier,
I can't change my color,
00:25:46.84\00:25:49.98
I can't change my gender,
00:25:50.01\00:25:52.05
I really can't, I
don't care what he say.
00:25:52.08\00:25:53.48
You really can't.
00:25:53.52\00:25:55.12
This is why, how I
turn up, how I dresses up,
00:25:55.15\00:25:59.12
you can't change it.
00:25:59.15\00:26:01.09
But when it
comes to sexual desires
00:26:01.12\00:26:03.59
or sexual attraction,
00:26:03.63\00:26:05.29
matter of fact, they
call it sexual fluidity.
00:26:05.33\00:26:07.86
I cannot pronounce that word.
00:26:07.90\00:26:09.23
But they're saying one day
you can feel like being a male
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and next day you
feel like being a female,
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even they say,
"Now, it can be changed."
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But, in order to confer
civil rights on as a group,
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they had to say
you can't change.
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Now we know that's a lie
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but the reason that they
have to maintain that lie
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because if that lie was broken,
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then they can never confer
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the thing of people
right or dominion war.
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So again, it's way
deeper than people understand.
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But, let's say he
was out of the pitcher
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is demonic,
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that the devil is
like a roaring lion
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seeking who he may devour.
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And this thing called the
homophobic and the haters,
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all this is a part
of their book I told you
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"After the Ball".
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If you get it, try to
read it, get that book.
00:26:55.84\00:26:58.25
You can go at Amazon,
I'm a sales person forward,
00:26:58.28\00:27:02.18
I want to make money, obviously,
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but I want people to understand
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all of this is
part of a demonic plan
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started back in the late '70s.
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And we want people to
get your book as well,
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what every Adventist
should know about GLBTQ.
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This is really important
because I mean, it's everywhere
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and we need to know
about how to minister
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to those who are broken.
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I can't believe our time...
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You know what?
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You know, we just gonna have you
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come back and do a program.
00:27:32.15\00:27:33.62
Like, you got to be doing your
own program on Dare to Dream
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'cause there is
just so much information.
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Right. Thank you,
Jason. You're welcome.
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It's always so good to have you.
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Oh, you know, if I
first said hi to you
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in the beginning, did I?
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You didn't. But that's okay.
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Oh, my goodness.
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Well, you know, charge
it to my head not my heart.
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Thank you so
much for joining us,
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we've reached the
end of the program,
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I can't believe it.
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Join us next time
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'cause it would be
the same without you.
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