Stay tuned to meet two young men
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who are defeating the
kingdom of darkness with prayer.
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My name is Yvonne Lewis,
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and you're
watching Urban Report.
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Hello and
welcome to Urban Report.
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Today's topic may
be a bit sensitive
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for children to hear,
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so parental
discretion is advised.
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This is actually part
two of a previous program
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that we did with my guests
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who are Alex
Niculaescu and Levi Longoria.
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I think I just butchered
your name again, but...
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Okay.
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I just have to call you
Alex so I don't mess up.
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But this is actually part two
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because we did part one
and there was so much more,
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and I know that we kind of left
you hanging about this dream
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because our time was up
and we couldn't believe it,
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so Alex is going to finish
telling us about the dream,
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and then he and
Levi are going to tell us
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some more of their experiences.
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I mean, this is so crucial
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because there's so much
going on out there in the world
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that we really aren't aware of.
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And that's why
we're bringing it to you
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the viewer so that you can
be aware of what's going on.
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There is a great
controversy going on.
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Spiritual warfare is going on.
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It is real.
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If you think it's not real,
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just listen to these experiences
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that our brothers here have had.
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So let's talk
to you now about...
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Let's finish that dream.
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If you missed it,
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you got to look up
part one of Urban Report
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and Crying at
the Gate Ministries.
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So just look up
part one, watch that,
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and then watch the rest of this.
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So go ahead, tell us, tell us.
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Your dream, let's start
all over with your dream.
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Sure. So we were
praying, the three of us.
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We had just been
confronted by the ex-Satanist
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who told us
tremendous amounts of things
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about spiritual warfare.
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We felt like we needed to
spend some time in prayer,
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so we started praying.
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And by the time Andrea,
which is a friend of ours,
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she was praying, I
began to see something.
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I was just praying,
you know, I was like,
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"Why am I seeing this?"
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I saw a tree with, you know,
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the branches that went
to the ends of the horizon.
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I couldn't see the ends of them.
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And light was coming through,
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and it was kind of
you know very dark scene,
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just enough just to
barely maybe make out
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some shapes and whatnot.
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And I heard these
sounds, and I looked up,
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and I saw these
chains tied to the branches
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and dolls and mannequins
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without faces
tied about the neck,
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hanging from these chains
just dangling back and forth,
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and I'm like, "Well,
this is really unsettling.
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Why would I be thinking
about something like this
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while we're praying?"
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I mean, that's weird.
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So I tried to
dismiss the thought.
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You know, you try
to shove away thoughts,
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things like that,
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but it's not that
it would come back.
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It just wouldn't go away
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and the thought was still there.
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And so I opened my eyes
and I'm looking and I can see,
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Levi can see Andrea, but
I can still see the tree,
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and I can still hear
the sounds of the chains,
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and I can still see everything,
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and I'm like, "Okay.
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I got to do something."
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So I began to see that
I can move within this,
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you know, dream or
vision or whatever it was,
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and I began grabbing the chains
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and pulling them
from the branches
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and, you know,
they're falling on the ground
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and I'm not feeling
any better whatsoever.
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And I finally just
get desperate and I say,
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"God, help."
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And the moment
that I say, "God, help,"
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I finally notice that
at the base of the tree,
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the trunk of the tree,
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and there's a man standing
next to the base of the tree,
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you know, leaning
on an axe, with an axe,
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you know, and he looks
like he's about to do something.
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And I'm like, "Yes.
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I'm pretty sure he's
going to go cut down the tree."
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So I say, "Lord,
give him strength."
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So he picks up the axe
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and he begins chopping
at the base of the tree.
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And he's hitting this tree,
and the tree is just shaking.
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And, you know,
all of these dolls
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and mannequins are going
back and forth violently.
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And I'm like it's unsettling,
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I know, but
this needs to happen,
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this tree needs to
be cut down no matter
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how difficult the processes is.
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And so he kept on cutting,
and cutting, and cutting.
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And finally the tree fell.
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And all the branches fell,
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you know, it was
weird how it fell,
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but it fell
with all the branches
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spread out around me
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in a like manner
as they were above me,
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it's like they fell
straight down or something.
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But the first
thing that I noticed
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is that I can see the sun.
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I can see the sky.
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And finally, there's light.
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And so I look up and
I say, "God, thank you."
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I praised God for His goodness
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and I began
breaking the chains off
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from the branches once again,
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and all of a
sudden they disappear.
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And as soon as
Andrea finished praying,
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so does this dream
and then it goes away.
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And so, you
know, I'm kind of like,
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"Okay, maybe I
should share that."
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And so I shared it
with Levi and Andrea,
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and all of us came to
the exact same conclusion.
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It didn't even
take us very long.
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We associated, it immediately
reminded us of Daniel Chapter 4
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where Nebuchadnezzar
saw a dream of a tree
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and its branches spread
out to the ends of the earth
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and that tree was
basically a kingdom
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whose influence spread
out to the ends of the earth.
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And it says that
all of the animals
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and all of the birds
found lodging under it.
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But here instead
of animals and birds,
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it was dolls and mannequins.
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And these were not
birds and animals that were,
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you know, happy living
under the power of this kingdom,
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these were
people that were being
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or objects that were
being oppressed by this kingdom.
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So we identified the kingdom
to be the kingdom of slavery.
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This tree was representing,
it was a symbol of slavery
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and the system of
slavery that its power extends
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to the ends of the earth.
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There's not a
single place in the world
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that is not influenced by it.
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And the people
that are caught into it,
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the mannequins are the adults
and the children are the dolls,
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and the reason they had no
face is because this system
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basically steals
their identity away.
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They have no identity.
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They're treated just
as objects without value,
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without belonging to anyone.
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And so the moment
that we try to do ministry
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in our own
strength, we see this system.
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We hate it. We loathe it.
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We want to do
something about it,
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so we start jumping up
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and tearing these
people free from the branches,
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from the system.
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It does nothing.
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It's only the moment that
we realize our own helplessness
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in actually solving the
problem that we pray to God.
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And Christ is
the man with the axe.
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He's the man that cuts
at the base of the tree
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and separates this system
that enslaves from the roots.
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And the moment that the
tree falls down is the moment
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that we praise God first,
and then we begin working.
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Because God has
already opened the door,
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we just step through it.
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And if our
testimony was anything,
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you know, to
tell you the reality
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that God does
first, and we just show up,
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and everything's
already been laid out before us.
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And so at that point is
when rescue can be done.
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Praise God.
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Look at how God was
communicating with you
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and letting you
know what He had...
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He was confirming
your mission really.
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He was confirming it for you.
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God is amazing. He is amazing.
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So let's go back to the
story about the Satanist
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and how he came to the church.
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Tell us about that because
we didn't really get into that
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deeply in part one.
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So he came.
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He was running away
for a certain extent
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from the Masonic
Lodge in Sao Paulo
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and the Satanic Church
that his family was a part of
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and he tried to kind
of leave for a while,
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it didn't work out,
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he was going to go
back and head to that,
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and on the way
back, I guess God was,
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in some way,
answering his prayer
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by leading him to this church.
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And in this church,
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you know, the church didn't
want to give him any money.
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They said, "Well,
if you do something,
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we'll buy the ticket.
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So what do you
do?" "Well, I paint."
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"Sure, paint the church,
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we'll buy you a
ticket, you can go back."
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So he's in the church that week,
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the same week that we're there.
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And he's painting the walls,
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listening to the
pastor and the head elder
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go through the 28-part series
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on Revelation and
prophecy, and all of that,
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and he's listening intently.
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He's like,
"I've never heard this
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from a Christian church before."
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He had never known that
there was a Christian church
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that knows
these kinds of things.
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And yet he still felt
that it was more of a knowledge
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that was a head knowledge
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as opposed to a
practical knowledge.
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And the pastor at
some point mentioned
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that there were two missionaries
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that were at his house.
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And so, you know,
his name was Williams,
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the ex-Satanist guy,
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well, he was a
Satanist at this point.
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And he says, "I need to
talk to the missionaries
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that are at your house."
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And the pastor says, "Okay,
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I'll have them come
and paint with you."
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And so...
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And did the pastor know
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that he was a
Satanist at that point?
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No. He didn't, at
that point, he didn't.
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Okay.
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And so the pastor
comes back excited,
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"Hey, there's this
guy that, you know,
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in three days after
listening to our messages,
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you know, just we were
going over these notes,
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he wants to get baptized.
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I told you we're
doing amazing things."
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So you know, he said
that he also wants you to go
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and paint with him.
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I don't know why,
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but he said he wanted
to meet the missionaries
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that were staying at my house.
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So we're like, "Okay, sure."
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So the next day, we
go and we paint with him.
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And he's telling
us that, "Hey, listen.
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I've got a message for you."
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Says, "These guys talk
about spiritual warfare
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and the Great
Controversy, so I believe it.
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I've never heard this before
so I need to get baptized,
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but I still need to
tell you the reality of it.
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And I feel that you
guys understand it more
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because of what it
is that you're doing
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but that they don't,
that they don't understand
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because they're not involved
in the way that you are."
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And I said, "Well, we haven't
told you what we're doing."
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How did this guy know
what it is that we're doing?
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We never explained to him
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what is that we're trying to do.
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And so he got
baptized on Sabbath.
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And he came afterwards
and he told us basically says,
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"Listen.
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I know what it
is that you're doing
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and they don't understand it."
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He says, "You're invading
Satan's territory directly.
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You're entering
upon his territory.
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And not only are you trying
to take his territory from him
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and give it to God,
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you're also trying
to take his property."
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He says, "Those are
his girls, they're his."
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He says, "They belong to
him," all right, "He owns them.
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And you're trying
to take them from him.
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So he's not going to
take lightly to that.
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You don't just
walk on to, you know,
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some strong man's property
and not only take his property
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but take his
territory, you know.
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You're stealing his land
from him and his property,
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his valuables, so to speak.
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Because he's a merchant
that deals in souls of men
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as we find in
Revelation Chapter 18."
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And he says, "You're
basically stealing from him."
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He says, "There's things
that I need to tell you."
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He says, "There's two things
that I need to warn you about,
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the way that Satan is
going to try to destroy you
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and the way that man is
going to try to destroy you.
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So the way that Satan is
going to try to destroy you
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is he's basically
going to try to kill you,
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you know, have
some accident happen
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or he's going to try
to destroy your ministry
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through causing
you to fall in a way
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that you can't get up out of it.
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You'll be so ashamed,
you'll be so embarrassed,
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you'll do so much credibility
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that you'll never be able
to do a single thing again.
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That's a legitimate fear."
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He says, "So I'm
just here to tell you
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that you guys really
need to be careful about that.
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And the second thing is the way
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that man is
going to destroy you.
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There's going to be people
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who think that
what you do is cool.
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They're just going
to want to join you."
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He says, "Don't
involve yourself with people
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who are not of
the same spirit as you
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because the moment
that you step into an area
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that's an area of
contention or an area of danger,
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an area that's under
severe spiritual warfare,
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and you go with somebody
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who is not under the
same protection as you are,
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who doesn't pray
the way that you do,
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who doesn't see
spiritual warfare
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the same way that you do,
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their presence
basically detracts
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from the
protection that you have.
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And you're going to
basically open up yourself
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to more attack."
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And so he also
gave us, you know,
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tons of things about
how spiritual warfare works,
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but those were
the two main things
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that he wanted to tell us,
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he wanted to warn
us in going forward
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how not to fall to that.
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So...
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Wow. That is so heavy.
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You know, again, look
at how God put this man
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in this church at this time,
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painting, while
this series was going on.
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And then that's when he accepted
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the Lord Jesus Christ.
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And then he was
impressed to share this with you
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to let you know how the
enemy was going to come at you.
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Yeah. We really needed
that, I think, at that point.
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That was the fourth city
out of twelve that we were in.
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And I don't
think we were taking it
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as serious as we
should be up to that point,
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you know, that kind of
very like your unrest to say,
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"Look, we need to
be super committed,
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even to our diet, to
you know, what we, like...
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The people that we
allow to be a part of it,
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all of that, we
had to really realize
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this isn't something
like you don't mess around
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with this kind of ministry,
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especially you're
either all the way in
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or all the way out.
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The most dangerous
place you can try to be
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is half in and half out.
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Up until that point, you know,
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my experience with
counter-trafficking was mostly,
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you know, dealing
with visual prostitution,
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criminal
organizations, things like that,
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and maybe some corruption.
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But, you know, I had seen
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evidence of
spiritual things all the time,
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churches
involved, cults involved,
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religion
involved, things like that.
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And I knew, you know,
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theoretically
that it was spiritual,
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and I was seeing more in Brazil,
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but it was this
experience particularly
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that finally just
like nailed it for me that,
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"Hey, all of it is
spiritual, all of it.
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There's not a
single aspect of it
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that doesn't have to do
with the devil, his kingdom,
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and those that are
under his influence in the way
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that he
manipulates the situations.
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So if you're
going to fight this,
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you're not going
to fight this the way
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that you fought it before.
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You're going to have to fight
this primarily, spiritually,
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or it's not going to work
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and you're going
to lose your life."
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This is not child's play.
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And I believe that God
was very merciful to us
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in protecting
us from many things
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that we were ignorant of.
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And, you know, I don't doubt
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that there are still many things
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that we're ignorant of,
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but I don't think that
we're going to go forward
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trying to progress
this ministry in ignorance
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because there's a level,
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there's a place for preparation.
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And I think it's
better for us to know
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what it is that he's
shown us to prepare more
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before we decide to take
even more steps deeper in
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because now we're
aware of what it is
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that we're really stepping into.
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And I think
that's a critical piece.
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We can
underestimate spiritual warfare,
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we can underestimate
the powers of darkness,
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and if we're not prayed up
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and if we're not
rooted and grounded in Christ
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or if we're
halfway in and halfway out,
00:14:30.87\00:14:33.23
as you were
alluding to, you're just lost
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because we are no
match for that kingdom.
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Christ has
defeated the enemy already,
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but we are personally
no match for the enemy.
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I don't think that we
need to be afraid of it,
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but I also don't think
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we need to be
presumptuous regarding it.
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Right.
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And oftentimes, we
get ourselves in danger
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when we end up being
presumptuous in regards to it.
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Right, absolutely.
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But God has given us the victory
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and we just need to understand
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how to engage in
the spiritual warfare
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with the victory that
God has already given us.
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Yeah.
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And that's a big
part of understanding
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the different things that
the Bible also speaks about
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in relation to spiritual warfare
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like the
breastplate of righteousness,
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you know, for example.
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It's not our righteousness.
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It's Christ's
righteousness. Right.
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And there's no holes in it,
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you know, there's
nowhere for the devil to get in.
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Each piece of the spiritual
armor or spiritual weapons,
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you know, that the
Bible speaks about,
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they're all things
that we need to understand
00:15:33.33\00:15:36.00
in relation to
all of these things
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because there are so many,
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you know, there's a lot of ways
00:15:40.10\00:15:42.20
that the devil
will try to attack us,
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but if we understand
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what scripture teaches and
how we get to depend on God
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and how you really fight
and how He is the one that's,
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you know, all the stories
that we've shared about in this
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and the previous interview that
we did last time about Brazil,
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I mean, if you...
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For us, we don't
need any more proof
00:16:05.36\00:16:07.10
that God is the one doing it,
00:16:07.13\00:16:08.46
you know, and we
get to depend on Him
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and rely on Him
to be the strong one,
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so to speak, the strong man,
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you know, but you
have to remain dependent,
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you have to remain
humble and looking to God,
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and we understand,
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we were talking
about that today that, man,
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if there's
anything that we both know
00:16:25.65\00:16:30.12
it's that everything
that has happened is in us,
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that God that is
the one doing it.
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Christ is going ahead
and He's been so merciful.
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Yes. Oh, yes.
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He used to nobodies. Yeah.
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Well, you know,
that's the key though.
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I mean, all He wants
is for us to be available.
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He doesn't...
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We just need to
be available to Him.
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What would you
tell people in churches
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who want to get involved
in a ministry like yours
00:16:55.68\00:16:59.18
that has to do with
helping to deliver people
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from sex
trafficking, human trafficking.
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The first thing that, and
I'll actually share a story,
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we wanted to
share this story anyway
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just to kind of
lead into that idea.
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There was a group in
the second city that we...
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Third, Natal. Oh,
third. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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The third city that
we visited in Brazil,
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there was a
group of young people,
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what was it like? Maybe 15, 20?
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Yeah, it was
around 15, I would say.
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And they have the same question
that you're asking basically.
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They had for about three weeks
before we arrived in that city,
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they had been
praying and being impressed
00:17:37.69\00:17:40.22
that they wanted to do something
00:17:40.26\00:17:41.89
to reach out to the
people on the streets,
00:17:41.92\00:17:44.09
the ladies, the guys, you
know, that were in prostitution,
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and they didn't know how,
they didn't know what to do,
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where to start.
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And so they had started praying,
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"God, can you show
us how to do this?"
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And three weeks later,
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these two guys
from America show up
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and they happened to be doing,
00:18:01.21\00:18:02.88
looking for a group to
start a project of outreach
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to prostitutes on the streets.
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Wow.
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And so you can see God was,
00:18:09.15\00:18:11.05
He was preparing the way for us.
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And so we spent
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a couple of hours going through
00:18:16.93\00:18:20.50
basically the ministry that
we wanted to do with them of,
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kind of training them, you know,
00:18:25.23\00:18:26.57
on going out into
the streets and...
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The safety protocols
and things like that.
00:18:28.60\00:18:30.17
Yeah.
00:18:30.21\00:18:31.54
The specific project that we
ended up doing with them was,
00:18:31.57\00:18:35.31
like the last
interview that that we had,
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Alex had mentioned that
00:18:38.21\00:18:39.55
there were kind
of three projects
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that we had wanted to do
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and were looking
for confirmation to see
00:18:43.15\00:18:44.65
if God wanted us to do them,
00:18:44.69\00:18:46.22
the first was
praying in the cities,
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in the streets,
which we obviously did.
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The second one that we
talked about was approaching,
00:18:51.73\00:18:55.26
you know...
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Favelas. The favelas.
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Yeah, approaching people
in the favelas, in the slums,
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and in areas like
that to pray with them.
00:19:00.57\00:19:04.07
And the third one was
this project of going out
00:19:04.11\00:19:06.71
into the streets with a group,
00:19:06.74\00:19:09.64
this is one that we
would wouldn't do just us two
00:19:09.68\00:19:12.61
because it would
be kind of improper,
00:19:12.65\00:19:14.55
you know, it wouldn't
look right at the very least.
00:19:14.58\00:19:18.29
With groups of church members,
00:19:18.32\00:19:21.32
we would go and write
little handwritten notes
00:19:21.36\00:19:26.93
to the ladies or the guys,
00:19:26.96\00:19:28.83
you know, that we'd be going to
00:19:28.86\00:19:30.53
and give them a flower
00:19:30.57\00:19:31.90
and put a little
like a phone number
00:19:31.93\00:19:34.94
or some kind of contact for them
00:19:34.97\00:19:36.74
to get in touch with someone
from that area, that church.
00:19:36.77\00:19:40.98
And basically the
notes would just say,
00:19:41.01\00:19:42.38
you know, things like
about how they had value,
00:19:42.41\00:19:45.21
how they, you
know, there are people
00:19:45.25\00:19:49.12
that actually cared about them
00:19:49.15\00:19:50.49
because a lot of them
they just don't know that.
00:19:50.52\00:19:53.49
That's one
simple fact, you know.
00:19:53.52\00:19:56.09
And so we went over
how to do this project
00:19:56.12\00:19:59.83
with this group of young people
00:19:59.86\00:20:01.90
and we went out into
the streets and we did it,
00:20:01.93\00:20:04.13
one of the nights that
we were there in that city.
00:20:04.17\00:20:07.67
And that first
night that we went out,
00:20:07.70\00:20:09.50
and this is the first time
00:20:09.54\00:20:10.87
that we had done
that project in Brazil,
00:20:10.91\00:20:13.48
that first night,
00:20:13.51\00:20:14.84
there were I think five
people that wanted Bibles,
00:20:14.88\00:20:17.48
there were...
00:20:17.51\00:20:18.91
Two or three.
00:20:18.95\00:20:20.28
Two or three that
wanted Bible studies.
00:20:20.32\00:20:22.78
These are
prostitutes on the street.
00:20:22.82\00:20:24.29
Wow.
00:20:24.32\00:20:25.65
And one...
00:20:25.69\00:20:27.02
Do you want to tell,
Alex remembers the story,
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there was one of them
that actually gave his...
00:20:29.42\00:20:31.43
Like after we
got back, you know,
00:20:31.46\00:20:34.33
these kids they knew
that they wanted to minister
00:20:34.36\00:20:37.10
to the prostitutes to do
00:20:37.13\00:20:38.50
that God had told them to do so,
00:20:38.53\00:20:40.20
but honestly they still had
00:20:40.24\00:20:41.87
their own kind of
preconceived ideas
00:20:41.90\00:20:44.27
of what are prostitutes, oh,
00:20:44.31\00:20:45.64
they're there because
they want to, they're...
00:20:45.67\00:20:47.01
You know, they didn't have
very high thoughts about them.
00:20:47.04\00:20:49.14
Right.
00:20:49.18\00:20:50.51
And so after, you
know, this going out
00:20:50.55\00:20:53.31
and handing out the cards
00:20:53.35\00:20:54.68
and the roses
and things like that,
00:20:54.72\00:20:56.05
they come back and
these kids are like,
00:20:56.08\00:20:58.19
these young
people are like broken,
00:20:58.22\00:21:00.46
you know, some of
them, they start crying,
00:21:00.49\00:21:01.82
their parents come out,
00:21:01.86\00:21:03.19
and they're trying to
explain to their parents
00:21:03.22\00:21:04.83
about how they were so wrong.
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So they were so wrong about this
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and there was one
thing that stood out to them.
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And that one of the guys,
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because one of
them was a transvestite,
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and he came up and he felt that
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he was treated with such respect
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that he didn't give
them their street name,
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he gave them his real name.
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He says, you know, I
normally just tell people
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who I meet on the
streets, what my street name is,
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but my real name is
Alexandre or Alexander,
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is the Portuguese
version of Alexander.
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And he says, "I just
wanted you to know my real name
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because I wanted to thank you
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for treating me
like I'm a human being.
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You showed me that that
I actually do have worth
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and I felt that you
showed me enough respect
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where I can
respect you with my name."
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Yeah.
00:21:46.13\00:21:47.70
Sorry, were you...
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Oh, no, no. Go ahead, go ahead.
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So just to get back
to the original question,
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this is where I would say
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to begin working with the church
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the way that we usually start
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is just basically
reaching out spiritually,
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and the very first
thing in that spiritual,
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you know, reaching out,
so to speak, is intercession.
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And there are things that
we can kind of do from there,
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we would like to be
in touch with people,
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they can get in touch with us
00:22:18.30\00:22:19.63
on our website
CryingAtTheGates.com.
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We'll put your website
up, CryingAtTheGates.com.
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Yeah.
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But the very first
thing, first and foremost,
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even for the people who
never decide to contact us
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or anything else is we
would just ask them get yourself
00:22:31.35\00:22:36.95
and whoever else in your church
or your friends, your family,
00:22:36.99\00:22:39.82
anybody that you can,
00:22:39.85\00:22:41.89
get a group of
people to start praying,
00:22:41.92\00:22:44.43
going out into the city
and praying for those areas,
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praying for the
things that go on there,
00:22:46.96\00:22:48.30
praying for the
people that you don't know,
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for the house
that you're driving by,
00:22:49.76\00:22:51.17
for the police
station, for the grocery store,
00:22:51.20\00:22:54.94
for everything, you
know, adopt a neighborhood,
00:22:54.97\00:22:57.97
adopt a street and
start praying for your city.
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That's the biggest thing.
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From there, God can open doors
to all kinds of other things,
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all kinds of other ministry.
00:23:07.75\00:23:09.52
But lots of times,
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we try doing
things even in evangelism
00:23:10.92\00:23:15.22
that are excellent,
they're great programs,
00:23:15.26\00:23:17.93
good things that we're doing,
00:23:17.96\00:23:19.76
but the doors are
closed spiritually
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to the areas
we're trying to reach.
00:23:22.13\00:23:24.20
And if they're
closed spiritually,
00:23:24.23\00:23:26.50
if those areas
belong to the devil
00:23:26.53\00:23:29.14
and he has control,
00:23:29.17\00:23:30.51
there may be one or two people
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who are willing to
hear God in those places,
00:23:31.91\00:23:36.38
but we need to open
the doors spiritually
00:23:36.41\00:23:38.61
before we go in and try
to reach them physically,
00:23:38.65\00:23:43.08
you know, and so I
would say that's the first,
00:23:43.12\00:23:45.62
that's the very
first place to start.
00:23:45.65\00:23:47.69
You know, we do
want to do eventually,
00:23:47.72\00:23:49.69
I'd love to work with people
to open up a recovery center,
00:23:49.72\00:23:52.89
to open up rescue centers,
00:23:52.93\00:23:54.26
maybe even a 24 hour call
line like we had in Atlanta.
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You know, there's tons
of things that we can do
00:23:57.23\00:23:58.60
and that I'd
love to do, you know,
00:23:58.63\00:23:59.97
I'm working on a
model of kind of,
00:24:00.00\00:24:01.34
like a Madison School
where we can take people
00:24:01.37\00:24:03.41
and teach them practical
skills and employ them,
00:24:03.44\00:24:05.61
you know, because
they need things to do,
00:24:05.64\00:24:08.18
and a lot of recovery
centers are missing many aspects
00:24:08.21\00:24:10.31
that we could provide, you know,
00:24:10.35\00:24:12.71
from like Ellen White's
counsel and things like that
00:24:12.75\00:24:14.88
that would benefit them
00:24:14.92\00:24:16.25
and reduce the
relapse rate significantly.
00:24:16.28\00:24:18.19
And so I really
want to get there,
00:24:18.22\00:24:20.06
but I think we'll waste
time if we jump the gun,
00:24:20.09\00:24:23.22
if we start going to the rescues
00:24:23.26\00:24:25.26
and all those recovery programs
00:24:25.29\00:24:26.80
before we've laid the
groundwork of intercession
00:24:26.83\00:24:29.56
and
understanding spiritual warfare
00:24:29.60\00:24:31.30
because spiritual
warfare doesn't end the moment
00:24:31.33\00:24:34.00
you've taken
somebody off the streets.
00:24:34.04\00:24:35.57
It actually really
begins when you have somebody
00:24:35.60\00:24:38.77
who has a history of
these immense amounts of trauma
00:24:38.81\00:24:42.44
and abuse and whatnot
00:24:42.48\00:24:43.81
and you're trying to deal
with them psychologically.
00:24:43.85\00:24:45.88
And so if you
don't begin with the idea
00:24:45.91\00:24:48.32
that, man, this is real,
spiritual warfare exists,
00:24:48.35\00:24:51.65
I need to
understand how it works.
00:24:51.69\00:24:53.59
Therefore, you
learn how to intercede
00:24:53.62\00:24:55.06
and how to pray and how to
use the weapons accordingly.
00:24:55.09\00:24:57.69
Once you don't have...
00:24:57.73\00:24:59.06
If you don't
have that groundwork,
00:24:59.09\00:25:00.43
it's not worth
moving to the next
00:25:00.46\00:25:01.80
because I've seen so many people
00:25:01.83\00:25:03.47
where they've fallen,
00:25:03.50\00:25:04.83
they've gotten
burnt out, they've...
00:25:04.87\00:25:06.27
It's just not worked out.
00:25:06.30\00:25:07.64
And so when we come, yes,
00:25:07.67\00:25:09.34
we're going to talk to
you about human trafficking
00:25:09.37\00:25:11.14
and that it
exists and how it goes on
00:25:11.17\00:25:13.01
so you can become aware
so that you know exactly
00:25:13.04\00:25:15.54
what it is that
you need to pray for.
00:25:15.58\00:25:17.05
Then we go
through spiritual warfare.
00:25:17.08\00:25:19.08
I tell you that it's real
00:25:19.11\00:25:20.45
and what are the tools that
you can use to engage in it,
00:25:20.48\00:25:23.32
and intercessory prayer,
00:25:23.35\00:25:24.69
you know, what does it
mean to be an intercessor
00:25:24.72\00:25:26.45
because everybody
wants to do rather than to be
00:25:26.49\00:25:29.26
and God is calling us to be men
00:25:29.29\00:25:31.63
and women of God as opposed
to just doing things for Him,
00:25:31.66\00:25:35.26
and so we do
that ministry first.
00:25:35.30\00:25:38.30
We'll eventually
get to the second part,
00:25:38.33\00:25:40.24
but right now we're
focusing on intercessory prayer
00:25:40.27\00:25:43.30
especially in terms of
victims of trafficking.
00:25:43.34\00:25:47.08
And are you finding
that there's a great response
00:25:47.11\00:25:50.18
to what you're doing, are
people reaching out to you
00:25:50.21\00:25:53.21
and saying, "We want to
get more involved in this,
00:25:53.25\00:25:55.38
tell us what we can do"?
00:25:55.42\00:25:56.75
Some.
00:25:56.79\00:25:58.12
It's not huge,
but I think honestly
00:25:58.15\00:26:00.12
that it's
probably better that way.
00:26:00.16\00:26:02.46
We don't want hundreds of people
00:26:02.49\00:26:04.46
because it's just
Levi and I right now,
00:26:04.49\00:26:05.99
and so I think God is kind
of maybe holding back the doors.
00:26:06.03\00:26:08.60
It is a difficult subject.
00:26:08.63\00:26:09.96
I mean, it's something
that people are interested in,
00:26:10.00\00:26:11.97
but they don't really
know if it's for them or not.
00:26:12.00\00:26:15.07
So that's where we
really want to start
00:26:15.10\00:26:16.81
with just helping people with
the spiritual warfare aspect
00:26:16.84\00:26:19.07
because that
applies to everything,
00:26:19.11\00:26:21.08
not just counter-trafficking,
00:26:21.11\00:26:22.78
it really applies to everything.
00:26:22.81\00:26:24.51
So I believe that the
doors are open little by little
00:26:24.55\00:26:26.65
and as we're able to grow
00:26:26.68\00:26:28.38
because right now we're
still not full time ministry,
00:26:28.42\00:26:30.72
we're still working normal
jobs and trying to do ministry
00:26:30.75\00:26:34.16
whenever we've got time to do.
00:26:34.19\00:26:35.52
So as soon as we have that time,
00:26:35.56\00:26:37.33
I believe that
those doors will open.
00:26:37.36\00:26:39.36
Tell us quickly what your
needs are in like 45 seconds.
00:26:39.39\00:26:44.70
Just, I mean, yeah
it's hard, it's hard.
00:26:44.73\00:26:47.24
Yeah.
00:26:47.27\00:26:48.60
What we're
trying to do right now,
00:26:48.64\00:26:50.41
the main focus right now
00:26:50.44\00:26:51.77
is basically
doing video projects
00:26:51.81\00:26:54.64
because we want to
make training materials
00:26:54.68\00:26:56.58
to put on the website
00:26:56.61\00:26:58.11
so that people
who maybe don't see
00:26:58.15\00:27:00.62
these kinds of interviews
00:27:00.65\00:27:01.98
and things can go through a lot
of specific areas of training
00:27:02.02\00:27:06.86
and how to, you know,
00:27:06.89\00:27:08.22
spiritual warfare
training mainly and traffic,
00:27:08.26\00:27:10.23
how to spot
things in their cities
00:27:10.26\00:27:12.69
that may be areas
they need to pray for
00:27:12.73\00:27:14.56
and things like that.
00:27:14.60\00:27:16.13
So I guess
camera equipment. Okay.
00:27:16.16\00:27:19.20
So you need funds,
00:27:19.23\00:27:20.57
you need funds to
purchase the camera equipment.
00:27:20.60\00:27:23.34
I suppose. Unless God
just gives them to us.
00:27:23.37\00:27:26.51
And the Lord will provide.
00:27:26.54\00:27:28.84
Thank you so very much
00:27:28.88\00:27:30.21
for being with us
again for part two
00:27:30.25\00:27:33.62
because we really,
we really need to know
00:27:33.65\00:27:36.79
what's going on out there
in the kingdom of darkness.
00:27:36.82\00:27:40.12
A lot of people are
kind of in a bubble,
00:27:40.16\00:27:42.26
we don't really
know what's going on.
00:27:42.29\00:27:43.79
You guys are on the frontlines,
00:27:43.83\00:27:45.59
and so we thank you so
much for being with us.
00:27:45.63\00:27:46.96
Thank you so much for having us.
00:27:47.00\00:27:49.13
Thank you.
00:27:49.16\00:27:50.50
And thank you so
much for being with us.
00:27:50.53\00:27:52.87
You know, we want you to
hold our brothers up in prayer
00:27:52.90\00:27:57.87
because they are
fighting a serious battle.
00:27:57.91\00:28:00.94
Well, thank you
for being with us.
00:28:00.98\00:28:02.61
Join us next time
00:28:02.64\00:28:03.98
because it wouldn't
be the same without you.
00:28:04.01\00:28:05.78