Have you ever wondered
about the modern-day sex trade?
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Well, stay tuned to
meet two young people
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who have been
called by God to minister
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to the victims of
these heinous practices.
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My name is Yvonne Lewis.
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And I'm Jason Bradley
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and you're
watching Urban Report.
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Hello and
welcome to Urban Report
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and I've got my co-host Jason.
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Hey. Hey.
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Welcome.
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And we have two special guests,
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our guest today are
Brian and Sophy Thomas.
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In the interest
of full disclosure,
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I must tell you that
this is my nephew and niece,
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and I'm so very proud of them
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for following
the Lord's leading.
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They have such an
interesting story to tell
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that we just had to share
it with you our D2D viewers.
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So welcome to Urban Report.
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Thank you for having us
up here, we appreciate it,
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we appreciate that.
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Yes, for sure, for sure. Yeah.
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You guys have a very,
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both of you have
great testimonies
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and, Brian, our
viewers have not heard yours
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and I really want
them to hear both.
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So let's start with you,
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tell us about
where you were raised,
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how you were raised,
and what happened to you.
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Oh, I mean, that's a,
that's a lot for us to cover
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in a short amount of time.
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But as you know I was
raised in Huntsville, Alabama
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with my parents
and a younger sister.
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My father had a wonderful job
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as a rubber chemist for
several prominent companies,
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which moved us around a lot
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and at the same time afforded us
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a comfortable lifestyle.
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So, you know, it's almost
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like the American
Dream kind of thing,
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you know, you get your
family and you had a good job
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and you're able to
provide, you go to church,
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and you lived
the life, you know,
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that you planned for
when you were younger.
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We moved to Detroit,
Michigan after Buffalo, New York
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and we found ourselves moving
back to Huntsville, Alabama
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when I was
around 12, 13 years old
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going into the 9th grade.
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And that year, my
father decided that,
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you know, God had
given him a revelation
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and he was to write a book
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called "Submission Principle"
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that would give
people principles
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on how to submit to God,
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therefore,
carrying out the purpose
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that He planned out for them.
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But during the
writing of his book
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he felt as if he
should quit his primary job
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and that, of
course, had a domino effect
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because there was
no other provision
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like, you know, he didn't plan,
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I don't think accordingly
for what could happen
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and he was just purely
trusting on God, you know.
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But God gives us power
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over certain
situations, circumstances,
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and we've got to be
able to clearly hear
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what he wants us to do,
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and I think he just got
confused on a few things
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during his interpretations.
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So when he quit his job,
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everything was taken
from us in the sense.
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So, you know, you go from living
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a very comfortable lifestyle
to a impoverish lifestyle,
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where you know I saw
our cars get repossessed.
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We lived in a home that
had no power, no lights,
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you know, no running water,
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you know, I still have to
walk to nana and papa's house,
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I mean, my grandparents
house in the morning
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before school to take a shower,
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and then walk to school.
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So, you know, my
relationship with God
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was strained during those times
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because if you're raised
in a Christian household with,
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and instilled
with certain values,
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this is completely contradictory
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of everything that you
know, you've been taught,
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and that you were,
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you come to
recognize and appreciate even.
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So you must have raised
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a lot of
questions in your head...
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Millions.
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As to, "Okay, so
my dad is following
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what he thinks is God's leading
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but yet it's
making us dirt poorer".
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Yeah, and going through it.
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And just like going
through the domino effect,
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I think that's really
a great way to put it.
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So it had to create a
certain confusion in your head,
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and a certain anger.
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Well, you know,
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I think the initial
response to emotion is confusion
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'cause you don't
know how to feel and then,
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once you recognize it
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the natural follow up is anger,
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like no matter
what so if you're hurt,
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the follow up was anger.
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If you're, you know what I mean,
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if you've been offended,
the follow up is anger.
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So whatever it is, so, yeah,
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I was completely
enraged by what happened,
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what my family had to
endure what we went through
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as a result of the
choices that my parents made,
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that I had
absolutely no control over,
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so I'm just
donning the situation,
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my younger sister and I.
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And during that time,
of course, you, you rebel,
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you don't want anything to
do with what the guy who says,
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"I love you and
I'll take care of you,
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and then I don't anymore."
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You know, it's like, why?
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Therefore, for
me, in this situation,
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all I wanted to do was get
back to the place where we were
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and it's not like, oh, my God,
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if you're not going
to do it I would do it.
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And guess what, I
don't need you to do it
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because obviously, you know,
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you're missing
from the picture here.
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Now how did all that
affect your relationship
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with your parents at the
time because you were, you know,
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you're looking to them,
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they were providing
a lifestyle at first
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and that got snatched, you know,
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as they were following
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what they felt
was God's direction,
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how did that affect
your relationship with them?
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I mean, let's be real
it didn't get snatched,
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like they gave it
up, you know what I mean.
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So it'd be one thing if,
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and I'm old enough to
understand these things,
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it would be one
thing if it was taken away,
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you know, and the
compounding events
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were out of their control.
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However, this was something
that they could control.
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And the results came
from the choices they made
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and we were affected by that,
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so, so you're just angry period.
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There is no, you know
what I'm saying, in between.
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You love your
parents still, you know,
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I don't ever think
that that left at all
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but the
relationship is just strained
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to where I don't
have to listen to you.
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You know what I mean?
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Like why would I listen to you
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because you're not
making solid choices to me?
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So, you know, I
started working jobs
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and I'm always somebody that,
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you know, I'm not afraid of work
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and I ended up
working at several jobs
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and I learned how to,
you know, work systems,
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run scams to make extra money
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because I'm the
only one in the house
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that was working, you know.
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Run scams, like what?
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Yeah, like,
okay, if I'm working,
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I worked at a movie theater
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and if you're
gonna get, you know,
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they sell combos,
popcorn and drinks and candy.
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Right.
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Well, if you
figure out how to run it
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and protect the inventory,
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I can sell you a
popcorn and a drink,
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then you come up and
you just get a drink,
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I'm keeping all
those numbers in my head
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so that I can sell the
three to four dollar candy
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and make that three
to four dollar profit.
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If I do that 10
to 20 times a night,
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I just made of real good.
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So that's what I began to
do, I worked at a grocery store
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because I got
fired from that job
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because, you know, they...
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They caught you.
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They didn't catch me,
you know, sin makes you dumb.
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So I got bold
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and just started taking money
out of other people's registers
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if I wanted to, you
know, so you got money,
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you're going to come up short,
you know, then I got fired.
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Ain't that interesting,
Brian, how the devil is like,
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he plays on wherever
you are at the moment...
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You know, if you
have anger, confusion,
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and all that he'll
play on that and then you,
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you plant these little seeds
of where you can run this scam,
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or you take this so you
could, and before you know it,
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you are spiraling downward.
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Out of control. Out of control.
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And he takes advantage
of those opportunities,
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so I was working
at a grocery store,
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then I can remember,
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Mom would come
and I was a cashier,
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so I would swipe
groceries through
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without reading them up
but there would still be,
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but she would pay $10 for,
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you know, food for a
month, you know what I mean.
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We were just trying to do,
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I was trying to do
whatever I could to help.
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Then I end up quitting that job
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'cause I was frustrated,
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and you know, it's
not a lot of money,
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you know, I'm making no money,
I need to make some real money.
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And I was approached by
friends, a friend of mine,
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older brother about
money opportunities.
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And I'll never
forget, he's like you know,
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your family is in a
situation right now,
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everybody knows your business,
you know what I'm saying.
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But it wasn't
as if I was getting
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a lot of
opportunities elsewhere,
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nobody, you know,
they talk about it like,
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you know, so thing I
think with us in the church
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it's like we talk
about people's problems
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and I'm gonna pray for
you but nobody is active
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and being a part of
that person's situation
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of the restoration or...
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Yeah.
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Physically taking a part in it.
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That's such a
good point. That is.
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Because, you
know, the verse in James
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where it says, you know,
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you pray for
somebody to get a go.
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But you've got to
go. But you've got to go.
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Give them a go.
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And there's a gap
between Christianity,
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the head
knowledge and living it.
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Oh, absolutely.
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Practical Christianity
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and that's what
you're talking about
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that is what's
missed a lot of times.
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I like to think of
it as the, you know,
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organization
versus organism, right.
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Meaning, the church
has gotten into a state of,
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it's an organization
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and organizations have
meetings about problems.
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But an organism like your
body, if you hurt your arm,
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you immediately go
to protect that arm,
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you're meeting the
comfort and console,
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wherever that
pain is you cover it
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and that's where we have to
make the shift to an organism
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from organization
from the body of Christ
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is a perspective.
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But so the friend
gave me an offer, you know,
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to get involved
with the drug trade,
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and it seemed easy
enough, it was opportunistic.
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I was like, man, you know,
I know people who smoke weed,
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you know, at the
time, I smoke weed.
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So if I don't have pay for it
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and I know
everybody else who does it,
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I could probably
make some money from this.
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And when I learned
what I needed to learn,
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I went out and I did well
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to put it simply, I did well
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and lived that
lifestyle for 17 years.
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Again, you know,
it's that whole plan
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like there are
two plans going on
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with the great
controversy going on.
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So we have God's
plan for your life
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which is to build
you up and to restore you
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and to conform you
to his image, right.
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And then there's
the enemy's plan,
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who takes
advantage of your situation
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and just runs
with it to destroy you.
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Yeah.
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And so where was
your head at this point,
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when you started,
you know, doing this,
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did you ever feel like,
oh, man, I shouldn't do this,
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or did you just give
in to it and run with it?
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I'll be honest
because of the culture,
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you know, the people,
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the environment
that I was around
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I just went full-fledged for it.
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You know, you're not being,
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and I still had a,
you know, loving parents
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but if you're not
being celebrated, you know,
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you go to where you
celebrate, you know.
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You want to go to not
just where you're accepted
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and where people tolerate
you but where people like, hey,
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you're doing a good job.
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When you belong to
something and it's real for you.
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You know, sometimes I think that
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we put ourselves in positions
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to fall susceptible to
things that aren't good for you
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just because it is real, right?
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So as far as the church went,
I didn't really wanna be there
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'cause I didn't feel
like it was real, you know.
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People would say, they love
you and they say these things,
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but nobody's really there.
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It didn't feel
real for me, you know.
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But I know these
guys up the street
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and everything they say
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they really, really do
it, you know what I mean.
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Whether it was
good or it was bad
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and I just wanted to be a
part of something that was real.
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So, yeah, we were
involved with that
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and I didn't graduate
high school as a result
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because I would rather
be running the streets,
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"Claiming to take
care of my family."
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But it's a selfish point of view
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and dispositions simply
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because I made it
about me, you know,
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I didn't think
rationally like, you know,
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doing well for my family
would be doing all the things
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that I'm
supposed to do, you know.
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I didn't plan for a future,
I just want it right now,
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you know what I mean.
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That's another
thing. That'll be crazy.
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That's such a good point too.
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Because there's
often such an inability
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to defer gratification,
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"I want what I
want and I want it now".
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And the thing is,
that's another thing
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that the devil plays on,
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and so God thinks
about the end game
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which is having
everybody saved, you know.
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He wants to save us so bad
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but the devil
tries to distract us
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with all these temporary
things to get us, of course,
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to get us not
focused on the end game...
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Right.
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To get us to focus on
the temporary treasures,
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the money and all that stuff.
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We were in the temporary issues,
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you know what I mean,
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because like all
things pass, you know,
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everything is just for a season.
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I was focused on the issue
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and that took more
precedence in my life
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than anything else.
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So, you know, we
went through a lot,
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homeless as a family
we moved to California
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and lived out there and
we came back to Huntsville
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and like I said, I
didn't graduate high school,
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I ended up just living
that type of lifestyle.
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I am a three
time felon, you know.
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I'm still even right now
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currently fighting
drug trafficking charges
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from 2013 for
something I did 4 years ago.
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And God had to do
some things for me.
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I'm a person who
requires harsh reality,
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just to be real I mean,
the harsh reality, you know,
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for it to really
make sense I got to
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and I just hit my
head, it has to crack open
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and I've got to
see what I'm thinking
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and know whether to
make any type of, you know,
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change or even
to think about it.
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So in 2014, after I
caught a trafficking case,
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I got a position case
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and I was like, I
was sitting in jail,
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I was, okay, God, you know,
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I've lived this
lifestyle for so long now that,
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and I know you're real,
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so if this is my time
to get rid of everything,
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and be done, and follow you,
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'cause that's
what it feels like,
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like they were things
that were just happening
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that I can't control,
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and there were
so out of the norm,
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you know, it
didn't make any sense.
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Like I can't, you can't
say also to enemy attacking me,
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look, God will chastise you too
because He loves you, you know,
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just to put you in a
position that's so dire,
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you've got to come to Him.
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That's right.
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And if you don't
have the common sense to,
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you know, that's your fault.
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You know what I'm saying?
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He knows how to
get your attention.
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Yeah, He does so.
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And so He did what He needed
to for me to get my attention.
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My father always said,
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"I hate to see what
you have to go through
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in order to get it," you know
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and these were
things I had to go through.
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I kept getting
pulled over by the police
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really for no
reason, and they would say,
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they were traffic infractions
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but I never got
a ticket, you know.
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DWB, this "Driving while black"?
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No, I think
driving while suspicious,
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I think the
energy that you have,
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you know what I'm
saying, is projected
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and people can pick up on it.
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They weren't wrong,
you know what I mean.
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It would be a thing
if they pulled me over
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and they were wrong,
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but they were wrong every
time, you're happening, right.
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So I got pulled
over in Birmingham,
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and I was in jail all the day
,and I'm normally used to just,
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you know, bonding
right out immediately
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and I had the bond money on me.
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I have a lawyer,
a bonding company
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that were coming
get me with no issue
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and people that are, you know,
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setup to come and
get me things happen,
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I'm a prepared individual.
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And they didn't let me
use a phone all the day,
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so that's how I got to use
the phone to call everyone.
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I said, "God, let a
sign be that the only person
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who answers the
phone for me is my father,"
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'cause I've got everything
I need to get out of here.
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So I literally called everyone,
my lawyer, the bond company,
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and the bond company's 24 hours,
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it's their job,
they stay by a phone...
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Right. To come and get you.
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Right, right.
They didn't pick up.
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So I'm like, okay,
God, stop playing with me.
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Then I call the list
of friends that I have
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and nobody is
picking up the phone,
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I think that, I get an idea,
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I'm sure it was a
holy ghost like just,
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just really like he got
a sense of humor, you know,
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plan for me he was
like, ask for your cell phone.
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So the idea hit me
like, ask for your cell phone,
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which is an evidence bag
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that they're not
allowed to go into,
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until after you're
released of course.
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They can't go into
it while you're there.
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Right.
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I asked for myself cell
phone, the God went got it,
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opened up my
evidence bag that was stapled
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and gave it to me.
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Wow! And so I'm thinking like,
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"Ha, ha I did it"
you know what I'm saying,
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like, it worked and
nobody has picked up the phone.
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I'm calling random people
now, you know what I'm saying?
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I'm just trying
to call everybody,
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you know what I'm saying,
to not make this thing happen
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'cause I said, "God,
if you want me to quit,
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you give me a sign
and I'mma pick the sign",
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so that's why I said, exactly
you know what I'm saying,
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it has to be my
father and nobody picked up.
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And they said,
you have one more time
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to use the cell phone
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and then we are
going to send you upstairs
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and I just couldn't go
upstairs 'cause you get lost
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and it will be a
process trying to get out.
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I called my Father,
he picked up immediately
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and so I went
cold turkey with that
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and that was the
hardest thing I ever had to do
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because essentially, you
know, my life was on the line,
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I had gone to a point
00:17:18.27\00:17:20.07
where you're so immersed into it
00:17:20.10\00:17:23.37
that you don't know
how you're gonna get out.
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You know, it's gone past
just being a recreational thing
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to an organized thing
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and you're responsible for this,
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the vision of thing,
you know what I'm saying,
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and you're primary guy.
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So, not only do
they want to know
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why you want to stop,
'cause there will be no issue,
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I could have just gone
back and kept living the life,
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you know what I mean,
that was available to me.
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You know, it was
not as if I had to stop
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or they were angry with me,
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no, I'mma trusted
guy, they know, hey, look
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whatever you need
we will give it to you.
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But if you call and
say, listen, I'm done
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and not only am I
done but I don't, you know,
00:18:02.44\00:18:05.01
to give me a second
to get you what you need,
00:18:05.05\00:18:07.62
you know, this is
not the movies, you know.
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And if it was the movies
00:18:10.52\00:18:11.85
you know how
those situations end,
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you know, they want to eliminate
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any threat to the organization.
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Yeah.
00:18:16.06\00:18:17.39
So I had
immediately begin to trust God,
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with harsh realities.
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And I know the grace of
God covered me in all of them,
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once I accepted
which was very difficult
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so I want anybody
to take it lightly
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like it's not a light thing
to put your life on the line,
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but that is what we're
called to do as Christians
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to say, "God, I would trust you
despite what it might cost me".
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And I accepted the
fact that if you decide that
00:18:38.68\00:18:42.22
it would be my fate
that I die behind this,
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then at least I
died for something right,
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you know what I mean.
00:18:45.69\00:18:47.02
I'm gonna do
this one thing right
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'cause I've done so
much wrong in my life.
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And He covered the
situation and blessed me,
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and not only did I
take care of the individual
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I needed to be taking care of
00:18:56.43\00:18:57.77
but they did
what they needed to do
00:18:57.80\00:18:59.17
to find out that,
okay, you didn't tell on us
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'cause I think
it's a sinners nature.
00:19:01.84\00:19:04.74
And they were like, you
know, you got a blessing to go,
00:19:04.77\00:19:08.41
so as soon as that happened...
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Which also is a
miracle. Yeah, oh, no.
00:19:10.88\00:19:13.55
I mean, just that is a miracle.
00:19:13.58\00:19:16.35
These people know
where your family lived.
00:19:16.38\00:19:17.72
Exactly, exactly. So, so...
00:19:17.75\00:19:20.49
And we want you to know
00:19:20.52\00:19:22.86
that if you're
caught up in something
00:19:22.89\00:19:25.59
that seems deadly,
God can deliver you.
00:19:25.63\00:19:28.06
Very good. Absolutely.
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Just trust Him.
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You might, you might be
caught up in the same thing,
00:19:30.83\00:19:32.97
the Lord might
have had you tuned in
00:19:33.00\00:19:34.87
to watch this program
today to hear Brian's story
00:19:34.90\00:19:38.64
to know that God
can deliver you too.
00:19:38.67\00:19:41.61
From anything.
00:19:41.64\00:19:42.98
Just know that
He's there for you,
00:19:43.01\00:19:44.85
just like He delivered
Brian, He can deliver you.
00:19:44.88\00:19:47.85
I mean, the thing
is if He never put you
00:19:47.88\00:19:49.22
in a situation
that you can control,
00:19:49.25\00:19:51.12
you would think that
you could do it without Him.
00:19:51.15\00:19:52.82
Exactly.
00:19:52.85\00:19:54.19
He puts you in a situation
00:19:54.22\00:19:55.56
to be able to develop the trust.
00:19:55.59\00:19:57.16
Yes.
00:19:57.19\00:19:58.53
It's required to live and pursue
00:19:58.56\00:20:00.40
the purpose that He has for us.
00:20:00.43\00:20:01.76
'Cause if you don't trust
Him and you have no faith,
00:20:01.80\00:20:04.57
then everything is dead.
00:20:04.60\00:20:05.93
Take it back to
the Garden of Eden.
00:20:05.97\00:20:07.30
Yeah.
00:20:07.34\00:20:08.67
All this you can you
can touch but this one tree,
00:20:08.70\00:20:11.47
just one tree, you've got
it, and it gives us a choice.
00:20:11.51\00:20:15.31
Yeah, absolutely.
00:20:15.34\00:20:16.98
So what ended up happening was,
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I was baptized
today three years ago,
00:20:18.51\00:20:21.38
immediately after that happened.
00:20:21.42\00:20:22.88
That happened on January 17th,
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where I made the
decision and February 8th 2014
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I submitted and I was baptized.
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So this is a
commemorative day for me
00:20:31.93\00:20:33.63
and we're here so that's,
you know what I'm saying...
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Praise the Lord.
So that's awesome.
00:20:35.20\00:20:36.77
I could have never thought
that I would be, you know,
00:20:36.80\00:20:39.00
right here right now
and I've done the things
00:20:39.03\00:20:41.24
that God has
afforded me to be able to do
00:20:41.27\00:20:43.44
within the time limit
00:20:43.47\00:20:44.81
even to spend three years for me
00:20:44.84\00:20:46.17
and we done some amazing things.
00:20:46.21\00:20:47.71
So I was baptized,
00:20:47.74\00:20:49.31
then out of the blue Oakwood
University Church called me
00:20:49.34\00:20:53.28
and said, they wanted me
00:20:53.31\00:20:54.65
to be a part of
a revival with Him.
00:20:54.68\00:20:58.12
Now I'm fresh out,
you know, to street
00:20:58.15\00:21:00.02
and I'm like I'm
not doing no revival.
00:21:00.06\00:21:04.99
But that's what I'm
thinking. All right.
00:21:05.03\00:21:06.66
But I told God that I would
do whatever He asks me to do
00:21:06.70\00:21:09.70
and I would know it was from Him
00:21:09.73\00:21:11.80
based on who He sent, right.
00:21:11.83\00:21:14.14
I didn't call Oakwood
and say let me do this,
00:21:14.17\00:21:16.50
you know, they
reached out to me.
00:21:16.54\00:21:18.81
So I'm like, okay, God, you
got a plan for this, I'll do it.
00:21:18.84\00:21:21.74
Next thing, you
know, I found myself
00:21:21.78\00:21:23.21
in neighborhoods
that are familiar with me,
00:21:23.24\00:21:25.91
knocking on doors of people
00:21:25.95\00:21:27.78
who are familiar with me saying,
00:21:27.82\00:21:31.69
"You want to have a
Bible study and pray".
00:21:31.72\00:21:33.36
Oh, wow.
00:21:33.39\00:21:34.72
And it was an amazing thing
00:21:34.76\00:21:36.09
because as I'm
comfortable as I was with them
00:21:36.12\00:21:37.46
because you're fearful
of what people might think
00:21:37.49\00:21:38.96
and go through all
of that in your mind
00:21:38.99\00:21:40.56
because you're
somebody, you're this,
00:21:40.60\00:21:42.83
and if you're not
this, then what are you?
00:21:42.86\00:21:44.20
You know what I mean.
00:21:44.23\00:21:45.57
God is doing a new
thing and He's rewiring you.
00:21:45.60\00:21:47.77
That's what is taking place.
00:21:47.80\00:21:49.90
The amazing thing was that,
00:21:49.94\00:21:51.27
I was able to get in
every home that not the average,
00:21:51.31\00:21:54.98
you know, evangelist
might be able to get into
00:21:55.01\00:21:56.71
because I look
just like you, you know,
00:21:56.75\00:21:59.41
and I'm somebody
that you were looking to
00:21:59.45\00:22:01.12
out here before,
00:22:01.15\00:22:02.48
like you know how along,
00:22:02.52\00:22:03.85
you want to come
in here and pray with,
00:22:03.89\00:22:07.29
and have Bible study with me?
00:22:07.32\00:22:09.72
What happened to you?
00:22:09.76\00:22:11.09
Right, I got to
get rid of this, right?
00:22:11.13\00:22:12.79
Yeah, yeah.
00:22:12.83\00:22:14.56
It is a story piece,
you know what I'm saying?
00:22:14.60\00:22:17.17
It is something
that will break any ice,
00:22:17.20\00:22:20.24
as long as you're
transparent with people
00:22:20.27\00:22:21.77
and that's not about I've
been perfect my whole life
00:22:21.80\00:22:24.14
and you just need Jesus
and you'll be perfect too
00:22:24.17\00:22:25.81
'cause that's not how it goes.
00:22:25.84\00:22:27.18
Right. You know.
00:22:27.21\00:22:28.54
So we did that
and in that effort
00:22:28.58\00:22:30.65
during that revival time
00:22:30.68\00:22:32.28
there were 60 some
other people baptized
00:22:32.31\00:22:34.28
and that was a
blessing but the extra was like,
00:22:34.32\00:22:37.09
the partner that
I was partnered with
00:22:37.12\00:22:39.39
and I were
responsible for over 40 of them.
00:22:39.42\00:22:43.16
So I saw I say, okay,
God... Praise the Lord.
00:22:43.19\00:22:45.06
You know, you,
this is different,
00:22:45.09\00:22:48.16
you know, you know,
00:22:48.20\00:22:49.73
we're not trained in evangelism,
00:22:49.76\00:22:51.63
I'm not a Bible scholar,
you know, but you can use me.
00:22:51.67\00:22:56.47
And that's exactly the point
00:22:56.50\00:22:58.87
you made yourself
available to God and that's all.
00:22:58.91\00:23:02.61
God's not looking
for the theologians
00:23:02.64\00:23:05.21
and Bible scholars
00:23:05.25\00:23:06.58
although I believe that
by now you are becoming that
00:23:06.61\00:23:09.48
but, but...
00:23:09.52\00:23:10.99
You got to
prepare. You got to prepare.
00:23:11.02\00:23:12.85
But He just wants
you to be available.
00:23:12.89\00:23:15.46
Period. Why?
00:23:15.49\00:23:16.83
Just say, "Lord,
I'm available to you".
00:23:16.86\00:23:18.46
He can do much
more with somebody
00:23:18.49\00:23:19.83
that's willing than somebody
who's able and stubborn.
00:23:19.86\00:23:23.63
So, you know I know it all.
00:23:23.67\00:23:27.14
So we did that
00:23:27.17\00:23:29.84
and shortly after my
brother Jeremy Anderson
00:23:29.87\00:23:32.27
who was converted in 2009,
00:23:32.31\00:23:34.71
and had been on
His faith walking
00:23:34.74\00:23:36.95
and you know how
when somebody changes,
00:23:36.98\00:23:38.48
you know, it happened to me too,
00:23:38.51\00:23:39.85
people did it to
me too, they're like,
00:23:39.88\00:23:41.22
"Oh, you gonna follow God now?"
00:23:41.25\00:23:43.35
Yeah, like, "Right".
00:23:43.39\00:23:44.72
I'll see you later on.
00:23:44.75\00:23:46.09
Yeah, yeah. Hold
you in your past.
00:23:46.12\00:23:48.56
Yeah, but not just
hold you in your past
00:23:48.59\00:23:49.92
they're used to
people not being consistent.
00:23:49.96\00:23:51.99
You know, it's not even
their fault it's a programming,
00:23:52.03\00:23:53.80
you know, of people
that are inconsistent
00:23:53.83\00:23:55.93
and it's still an issue today
00:23:55.96\00:23:57.30
'cause you have
people in the church
00:23:57.33\00:23:58.67
but they're not consistent.
00:23:58.70\00:24:00.04
You know, I
suffered from that reality
00:24:00.07\00:24:01.70
and that's also
why I didn't go there.
00:24:01.74\00:24:03.27
You know.
00:24:03.30\00:24:04.64
So we've got to be the
change that we want to see.
00:24:04.67\00:24:06.78
It's a theory of "If you can't
find any good people, be one".
00:24:06.81\00:24:09.38
So if you can't find
any real questions be one.
00:24:09.41\00:24:11.75
So my brother Jeremy
Anderson was there for me.
00:24:11.78\00:24:15.62
And he was a part of
the decision that I made
00:24:15.65\00:24:20.32
because he said when he talked
to me he was like, "Look, bro,
00:24:20.36\00:24:22.82
you can't touch nothing
else or do nothing else."
00:24:22.86\00:24:26.09
And so I made the
decision that if I died,
00:24:26.13\00:24:28.96
that I spoke on
earlier, at his house, you know,
00:24:29.00\00:24:31.80
during a 45-minute
conversation that we had.
00:24:31.83\00:24:33.94
So he called me one day
00:24:33.97\00:24:36.71
and said that he
came from Bermuda.
00:24:36.74\00:24:39.01
And he came from Bermuda
00:24:39.04\00:24:40.38
and he just shared
my testimony with people
00:24:40.41\00:24:41.74
because he calls
himself a testimony stealer,
00:24:41.78\00:24:43.71
like he like, I'mma share
your testimony if you won't.
00:24:43.75\00:24:46.41
So he was out
there and he shared
00:24:46.45\00:24:48.58
and he said, "Bro, you
got to do something with that
00:24:48.62\00:24:50.59
and God told me that we
supposed to do something
00:24:50.62\00:24:52.35
and we're gonna start in,
00:24:52.39\00:24:53.72
I'mma canvassing the Grace Tour
00:24:53.76\00:24:55.09
and I want you to come and speak
00:24:55.12\00:24:56.46
and share your testimony
at a church in Myrtle Beach,
00:24:56.49\00:25:00.93
South Carolina,"
and it was April 2014.
00:25:00.96\00:25:04.70
I said you know in
my mind, I won't do that
00:25:04.73\00:25:07.10
'cause I don't want to
tell people my business, right?
00:25:07.14\00:25:09.10
You don't wanna 'cause I know
00:25:09.14\00:25:10.51
how judgey people
in the church can be
00:25:10.54\00:25:12.67
even though it's not our
assignment to tell people
00:25:12.71\00:25:14.61
how we feel only our God feels
about them, that's our reality.
00:25:14.64\00:25:17.65
People will do
more talking about you
00:25:17.68\00:25:19.25
than talking with
and for you to God.
00:25:19.28\00:25:21.42
So I was like, you know,
00:25:21.45\00:25:22.78
I don't wanna put
all this out here.
00:25:22.82\00:25:24.29
It wasn't a comfortable thing.
00:25:24.32\00:25:26.19
But nothing grows in comfort,
so like I said, I would do it,
00:25:26.22\00:25:30.43
anything you ask me
to do, God, I'll do it,
00:25:30.46\00:25:31.89
I know by who you're sensing.
00:25:31.93\00:25:33.26
And my brother asked
me I just told him I would
00:25:33.29\00:25:35.00
and we went it
was a blessed event
00:25:35.03\00:25:36.36
we did like four
events that year,
00:25:36.40\00:25:38.03
or no we did like
six events that year
00:25:38.07\00:25:40.64
and we were
traveling place to place.
00:25:40.67\00:25:42.20
We hit Texas, we
went Dallas, Houston,
00:25:42.24\00:25:45.14
New York, Missouri
00:25:45.17\00:25:47.38
and I just saw the
effect that it was having
00:25:47.41\00:25:49.38
and I was like, man, God
00:25:49.41\00:25:50.85
like I'm not a
trained speaker, you know,
00:25:50.88\00:25:53.78
I'm not somebody
that has the experience
00:25:53.82\00:25:56.18
or the qualifications
but God doesn't, you know,
00:25:56.22\00:25:58.69
call the qualified
he qualifies the call.
00:25:58.72\00:26:01.42
So, I said, wow, you
know, if I can be used for this,
00:26:01.46\00:26:04.33
this is what I wanna do
00:26:04.36\00:26:05.69
and we went full
time ministry in 2015
00:26:05.73\00:26:09.16
with something
that was developed
00:26:09.20\00:26:10.83
through my
brother Jeremy Anderson
00:26:10.87\00:26:12.20
and his wife Traci Anderson
00:26:12.23\00:26:13.57
their nonprofit
called, Next Level Living.
00:26:13.60\00:26:15.54
And we developed it
was called the Grace Tour.
00:26:15.57\00:26:17.77
We traveled on the road in 2015
for 3 weeks out of the month
00:26:17.81\00:26:21.31
we were on the road
witnessing, ministering,
00:26:21.34\00:26:23.75
speaking to any and
everyone that we could,
00:26:23.78\00:26:26.72
churches, evangelism one-on-one,
00:26:26.75\00:26:28.48
teaching them how to
get outside of the church
00:26:28.52\00:26:30.29
and into the community
00:26:30.32\00:26:31.65
so that they could
become more relevant
00:26:31.69\00:26:33.02
therefore making
Jesus more relevant.
00:26:33.05\00:26:34.49
You know what I mean?
00:26:34.52\00:26:35.86
Like the days of
going with tracks
00:26:35.89\00:26:37.79
is not where you live right now,
00:26:37.83\00:26:40.13
that's not the time
that we're right now
00:26:40.16\00:26:41.63
'cause people are hungry
00:26:41.66\00:26:43.13
so if I don't
first provide your need,
00:26:43.16\00:26:45.67
you not gonna
wanna listen to me.
00:26:45.70\00:26:47.57
Like, don't knock
on my door with a track
00:26:47.60\00:26:50.21
and you only got a
burger or a sandwich
00:26:50.24\00:26:52.47
or something like
I'm hungry can I get that
00:26:52.51\00:26:54.71
and then we
could talk about this,
00:26:54.74\00:26:56.14
can you show
00:26:56.18\00:26:57.51
or express a genuine
care for what I might need.
00:26:57.55\00:26:58.88
So you are not saying
don't get out of track
00:26:58.91\00:27:00.45
but what you're saying is that
00:27:00.48\00:27:03.62
you have to meet
people where they are,
00:27:03.65\00:27:05.09
that's what Jesus did.
00:27:05.12\00:27:06.45
Yeah.
00:27:06.49\00:27:07.82
He met people where
they were, he fed the hungry,
00:27:07.86\00:27:09.22
he healed the sick, and
then He preached to them.
00:27:09.26\00:27:11.79
Jesus never preached Jesus.
00:27:11.83\00:27:13.16
He didn't walk up and
say, "I am Jesus, follow".
00:27:13.19\00:27:15.20
You know what I'm saying?
He said, "What is it you need?"
00:27:15.23\00:27:17.37
"Oh, you're laying?"
00:27:17.40\00:27:18.77
"Get up and
walk". "Or you're blind?"
00:27:18.80\00:27:20.14
"Here, see. Now follow me".
00:27:20.17\00:27:21.80
You know what I mean?
00:27:21.84\00:27:23.17
He gave people an
incentive and a reason.
00:27:23.20\00:27:24.94
He showed them that He cared.
00:27:24.97\00:27:26.88
And when people saw that
they were like, "Oh, man,
00:27:26.91\00:27:28.41
I never experienced no
love, love like this before"
00:27:28.44\00:27:32.41
and that is what was attractive.
00:27:32.45\00:27:34.05
So that's what we are
and that's what we do.
00:27:34.08\00:27:37.35
So when, speaking of love,
00:27:37.39\00:27:40.06
when does Sophy
come into the picture,
00:27:40.09\00:27:42.06
it's a good place to
bring our little Sophy in now.
00:27:42.09\00:27:44.46
Prefect segment.
00:27:44.49\00:27:45.83
We can bear with that.
00:27:45.86\00:27:47.90
Sophy actually
came into the picture
00:27:47.93\00:27:50.43
3 months into the
Grace Tour in 2015.
00:27:50.47\00:27:53.67
Okay.
00:27:53.70\00:27:55.04
It was March and
we were in Las Vegas,
00:27:55.07\00:27:57.84
and our sister Traci
Anderson, Jeremy's wife,
00:27:57.87\00:28:01.01
lost her mother
and they had to go,
00:28:01.04\00:28:04.55
and see about the family,
00:28:04.58\00:28:06.15
and they left us in Las
Vegas and we had, you know,
00:28:06.18\00:28:09.88
assignments to speak at
schools, in group homes,
00:28:09.92\00:28:12.15
and detention centers,
and churches, and so forth.
00:28:12.19\00:28:15.09
And I was assigned to
preach for the main service
00:28:15.12\00:28:19.09
at Abundant Life
Church in Las Vegas, Nevada.
00:28:19.13\00:28:22.43
And I was like, you know,
00:28:22.46\00:28:24.00
wow, this is
going to be interesting
00:28:24.03\00:28:25.77
I never got into a
pulpit and preach before.
00:28:25.80\00:28:28.97
But let's just say God blessed,
amazing experience, and I said,
00:28:29.00\00:28:32.27
"Okay, God", you know, you
know new heights new level,
00:28:32.31\00:28:34.78
everything is about
going to the next level
00:28:34.81\00:28:36.28
which is why our nonprofit
is called Next Level Living.
00:28:36.31\00:28:38.78
So I was still in Las Vegas
00:28:38.81\00:28:42.65
and somebody suggested to me
00:28:42.68\00:28:44.75
on Facebook a
page to go on like,
00:28:44.79\00:28:46.32
it was a "Jesus is King" page.
00:28:46.35\00:28:48.26
And I'm like, "I like
Jesus, Jesus is my man".
00:28:48.29\00:28:50.53
So I go to the page
and I like the page,
00:28:50.56\00:28:52.33
when I liked the page, you know,
00:28:52.36\00:28:53.73
it will show you who
else likes the page, right?
00:28:53.76\00:28:56.43
And I saw this
wonderful looking woman.
00:28:56.46\00:28:59.47
I saw this divine
creature, you hear me?
00:28:59.50\00:29:03.61
I got to get my
Barry White voice,
00:29:03.64\00:29:05.24
this gorgeous creation.
00:29:05.27\00:29:08.94
And I said, wow,
I think, I think,
00:29:08.98\00:29:11.61
I think I should
talk to her, you know,
00:29:11.65\00:29:15.08
'cause this point I'm
looking for a helpmate,
00:29:15.12\00:29:17.35
I must be real. Right.
00:29:17.39\00:29:18.72
And someone who
loves Jesus yes, yes.
00:29:18.75\00:29:21.49
My Sister Sula
Skiles, who's a pastor
00:29:21.52\00:29:24.73
and a church planter
down in Destin, Florida
00:29:24.76\00:29:26.53
with her husband John Skiles,
00:29:26.56\00:29:27.90
we've been
growing calls and praying,
00:29:27.93\00:29:29.46
she literally prayed
for a specific type of woman
00:29:29.50\00:29:31.53
with certain characteristics.
00:29:31.57\00:29:33.03
I began to look
for those things.
00:29:33.07\00:29:35.40
I go to her page and
I literally went from,
00:29:35.44\00:29:38.54
it was 2015 all
the way back to 2000
00:29:38.57\00:29:41.54
whenever she started her page.
00:29:41.58\00:29:44.11
And the entire
thread was consistent.
00:29:44.15\00:29:47.28
The whole thing was
just like, you know,
00:29:47.32\00:29:49.38
it was beautiful, it was joyous,
00:29:49.42\00:29:50.79
it was
encouraging, it was inspiring.
00:29:50.82\00:29:53.22
There were biblical references,
00:29:53.25\00:29:54.76
it was just like
joyful, you know,
00:29:54.79\00:29:57.43
when I saw that and
I said, "I like that".
00:29:57.46\00:29:59.16
So, of course, I
jumped in her DM,
00:30:03.37\00:30:05.47
I hit her inbox
like, "How are you?"
00:30:05.50\00:30:08.44
You know, "You're so blessed".
You know what I'm saying?
00:30:08.47\00:30:11.71
I was coming with that talk.
00:30:11.74\00:30:13.07
And she didn't
say nothing to me,
00:30:13.11\00:30:14.44
she didn't respond for a while.
00:30:14.48\00:30:16.08
And finally as I
said, I study things
00:30:16.11\00:30:19.01
and I like, you
know, a challenge.
00:30:19.05\00:30:21.05
You like as men we love to
be able to pursue something.
00:30:21.08\00:30:24.92
You don't make
yourself so readily available
00:30:24.95\00:30:27.02
that it looks like
this is what you do,
00:30:27.06\00:30:29.32
bounce, bounce, right?
00:30:29.36\00:30:31.26
Be unavailable to a degree.
00:30:31.29\00:30:35.96
The hunters? Yeah,
man, she was there.
00:30:36.00\00:30:37.97
Men are hunters.
00:30:38.00\00:30:39.33
So one day, you know, I
discovered that she likes,
00:30:39.37\00:30:41.67
you know, she's a fan of
food like most of women are,
00:30:41.70\00:30:44.01
you know what I mean,
00:30:44.04\00:30:45.37
like they say food's
a way to a man's heart,
00:30:45.41\00:30:46.84
no, it's not, it's a woman.
00:30:46.88\00:30:48.64
You know what I mean?
00:30:48.68\00:30:50.01
So I said, "Hey, sis."
00:30:50.05\00:30:53.52
I hit it with a
sis, I think that worked,
00:30:53.55\00:30:55.75
you know what I mean?
00:30:55.78\00:30:57.12
Oh, he goes and say sis.
00:30:57.15\00:30:58.49
I said, "Hey,
sis," Non threatening,
00:30:58.52\00:30:59.85
you know what I'm saying?
00:30:59.89\00:31:01.22
Right, not "Hey, babe".
00:31:01.26\00:31:02.76
Yeah, we wouldn't do that.
00:31:02.79\00:31:04.13
And I said, so
that she responded
00:31:04.16\00:31:06.29
and we just kind of
spoke and she said "Listen",
00:31:06.33\00:31:09.30
I said, "Can I have your number
00:31:09.33\00:31:10.67
so we could talk for the like,
00:31:10.70\00:31:12.03
I love to just grow
in Christ with you".
00:31:12.07\00:31:13.64
You know what I'm saying?
00:31:13.67\00:31:15.54
She said, well, "Listen,
thank you, I'm flattered
00:31:15.57\00:31:20.08
but I'm really
focused on purpose right now".
00:31:20.11\00:31:22.48
And I said, "Oh, I like that".
00:31:22.51\00:31:28.08
So when she said that I said,
okay, that's somebody that,
00:31:28.12\00:31:31.35
you know, I can see
myself being with so, you know,
00:31:31.39\00:31:34.32
whatever, whatever
00:31:34.36\00:31:35.76
I know what to look for.
00:31:35.79\00:31:37.13
But you're
talking quality. Quality.
00:31:37.16\00:31:39.19
Inside and outside.
00:31:39.23\00:31:40.93
Period. Period.
00:31:40.96\00:31:42.86
And so I left her
alone for a second.
00:31:42.90\00:31:46.63
But it was all
while I was still in Vegas
00:31:46.67\00:31:48.30
and what she did was the sermon
00:31:48.34\00:31:50.74
that I preached in Vegas
was recorded at the church
00:31:50.77\00:31:54.01
and I posted
the link on my page.
00:31:54.04\00:31:56.64
So she went to my page,
and she clicked the link,
00:31:56.68\00:31:58.45
and she watched it.
00:31:58.48\00:32:00.18
And so I'm like God knew
what He was doing. Right?
00:32:00.22\00:32:02.48
"All right, God, you
know what you're doing
00:32:02.52\00:32:03.85
with all this stuff," right?
00:32:03.89\00:32:06.42
So, so she watched it
and then the Grace Tour
00:32:06.45\00:32:09.29
we have videos on YouTube
that you can go and watch.
00:32:09.32\00:32:12.06
And she started to
look up the Grace Tour.
00:32:12.09\00:32:14.13
So she watched all
the videos, you know,
00:32:14.16\00:32:16.50
and next thing you know, I
get a message on Instagram,
00:32:16.53\00:32:21.30
you know, from
Facebook to Instagram,
00:32:21.34\00:32:22.67
and she followed me,
00:32:22.70\00:32:24.04
I was going to
followed her back.
00:32:24.07\00:32:25.41
And I was like, "Oh,
you like the videos, huh?"
00:32:25.44\00:32:29.78
Now what were you thinking,
Sophy, when you saw Brian,
00:32:29.81\00:32:33.75
what were you thinking?
00:32:33.78\00:32:36.72
I never seen a group
of young people on fire
00:32:36.75\00:32:41.32
for the Lord, and
I wasn't around that.
00:32:41.36\00:32:44.63
And I was in a
place of my own, you know,
00:32:44.66\00:32:47.93
pursuing God with all my heart
00:32:47.96\00:32:52.33
and I just
didn't have that around.
00:32:52.37\00:32:55.47
So I was just very,
very encouraged and inspired,
00:32:55.50\00:32:59.37
and I had my son I said,
00:32:59.41\00:33:00.78
"Andrew, you
have to look at these
00:33:00.81\00:33:02.54
wonderful young people
00:33:02.58\00:33:04.21
that are going
around the country",
00:33:04.25\00:33:06.08
you know, the ye therefore
00:33:06.11\00:33:07.45
go ye there for ministry really,
00:33:07.48\00:33:09.45
you know, and it just
was so encouraging to me
00:33:09.48\00:33:12.29
so I decided
after his few attempts
00:33:12.32\00:33:15.22
to just send him an
encouraging message.
00:33:15.26\00:33:17.23
And say, "Hey,
brother," you know,
00:33:17.26\00:33:19.89
I'd just like
for you guys to know
00:33:19.93\00:33:21.56
that I'm praying for you guys,
00:33:21.60\00:33:23.30
what you guys are
doing is a phenomenon,
00:33:23.33\00:33:25.70
and I'll keep you
guys lifted up in prayer
00:33:25.73\00:33:27.57
keep doing what you're
doing, God bless pretty much.
00:33:27.60\00:33:29.90
And that was the
message. And what happened next?
00:33:29.94\00:33:32.57
And he was just like, "Oh."
00:33:32.61\00:33:35.98
I remember she
wouldn't give me a telephone
00:33:36.01\00:33:37.51
so what she gave
me was her Skype.
00:33:37.55\00:33:39.31
So we began the Skype.
00:33:39.35\00:33:41.32
Like messaging and then I
actually got a Skype video,
00:33:41.35\00:33:44.19
I called it a Skype
date and we spoke, you know,
00:33:44.22\00:33:48.46
and really developed a
bond through that, you know.
00:33:48.49\00:33:53.03
And where were you
living? Connecticut.
00:33:53.06\00:33:54.93
Oh, okay, so you
live in Connecticut,
00:33:54.96\00:33:57.07
and you were
still in Huntsville?
00:33:57.10\00:33:58.53
While I was on
the road at that time,
00:33:58.57\00:33:59.90
but, yeah, you
know, Huntsville was home.
00:33:59.93\00:34:01.27
That was your base.
00:34:01.30\00:34:02.64
But we were still, you know,
00:34:02.67\00:34:04.01
just really
getting into the tour.
00:34:04.04\00:34:07.21
So you know, we
talked for a while
00:34:07.24\00:34:09.94
and kept speaking and
finally I got her number,
00:34:09.98\00:34:12.08
she let me call her and we,
you know, we talked every day.
00:34:12.11\00:34:16.45
And then it was like
two months later it was May,
00:34:16.48\00:34:19.69
Memorial Day
weekend, and I was like,
00:34:19.72\00:34:21.79
you know, we should
meet, we should meet up.
00:34:21.82\00:34:24.06
So I flew to New York
and she came to pick me up
00:34:24.09\00:34:26.23
I went back to Danbury,
Connecticut where her family is
00:34:26.26\00:34:28.50
and spent Memorial Day
weekend with them, you know.
00:34:28.53\00:34:31.33
And God ain't with the
family. They love his speaking.
00:34:31.37\00:34:34.80
Oh, okay.
00:34:34.84\00:34:36.17
They barbecue and all
they want to do is barbecue.
00:34:36.20\00:34:40.48
Just like us. Just like me.
00:34:40.51\00:34:44.15
So I cooked for
them, you know what I mean?
00:34:44.18\00:34:49.52
I barbecued and
I made, you know,
00:34:49.55\00:34:51.59
some baked beans that,
you know, that they love,
00:34:51.62\00:34:54.62
and made all the stuff.
00:34:54.66\00:34:55.99
So they were like,
"Hey, you're cool with us",
00:34:56.02\00:34:57.79
you know what I'm
saying, so we got in there.
00:34:57.83\00:34:59.33
And every month I flew her out
00:34:59.36\00:35:01.93
to wherever I
would be on the road.
00:35:01.96\00:35:03.97
Yeah, we made a commitment
that we would see each other.
00:35:04.00\00:35:06.00
And then we were
married four months later.
00:35:06.03\00:35:08.60
Wow.
00:35:08.64\00:35:09.97
So how long was the
courtship all together?
00:35:10.01\00:35:11.61
Four months. Four months.
00:35:11.64\00:35:12.97
Four months! March to July.
00:35:13.01\00:35:15.04
Wow, that's incredible
00:35:15.08\00:35:16.68
and you got
married how long ago?
00:35:16.71\00:35:18.21
When was it?
00:35:18.25\00:35:19.58
Well, we had our wedding
ceremony Memorial Day weekend.
00:35:19.61\00:35:23.32
Last year.
00:35:23.35\00:35:24.69
2016, but we
were married in 2015.
00:35:24.72\00:35:28.22
That was a beautiful wedding.
00:35:28.26\00:35:31.66
Fabulous, really
beautiful. Thank you.
00:35:31.69\00:35:34.73
So God has now
called the two of you
00:35:34.76\00:35:38.63
into a ministry
with the sex trade.
00:35:38.67\00:35:41.80
How did that happen?
And what's that all about?
00:35:41.84\00:35:43.81
Well, okay, let me give
context 'cause prior to that...
00:35:43.84\00:35:45.97
Good.
00:35:46.01\00:35:47.34
This came because God
asked me to do something,
00:35:47.38\00:35:50.51
and I wrote a book.
00:35:50.55\00:35:51.88
And, you know, we
developed the book,
00:35:51.91\00:35:53.48
and we put it out
in 2016, you know,
00:35:53.52\00:35:55.72
as you know called the Plug.
00:35:55.75\00:35:57.19
And with that He also asked
us to start our own ministry
00:35:57.22\00:36:00.49
and our own
programs for schools,
00:36:00.52\00:36:01.86
while I was doing the Grace Tour
00:36:01.89\00:36:03.22
already with just
an extension, you know,
00:36:03.26\00:36:04.79
and something that
we would reside over
00:36:04.83\00:36:07.86
so that we could grow.
00:36:07.90\00:36:09.80
And we were in schools
with mentorship programs,
00:36:09.83\00:36:13.50
teacher
empowerment sessions, you know,
00:36:13.54\00:36:15.97
realigning them with a purpose,
it's called Teachers Covenant.
00:36:16.00\00:36:18.97
And it is really
encouraging and inspiring people
00:36:19.01\00:36:23.08
to pursue their purpose
00:36:23.11\00:36:24.45
and their
passions every single day.
00:36:24.48\00:36:26.65
And it's called
"The Activate Series"
00:36:26.68\00:36:28.38
so we developed a company
00:36:28.42\00:36:30.45
and it's called
Activated Ministries.
00:36:30.49\00:36:32.12
Well, a ministry called
Activated Ministries rather.
00:36:32.15\00:36:36.29
My wife's, our
intentions were for her
00:36:36.32\00:36:37.96
to quit her corporate job
that she made great money at,
00:36:37.99\00:36:41.06
and go full time ministry
00:36:41.10\00:36:42.43
because that's
where her heart was.
00:36:42.46\00:36:44.17
So in March 2016, she
did, she quit her job,
00:36:44.20\00:36:49.07
through a series
events the God showed us like
00:36:49.10\00:36:50.44
this is what He want us to do
00:36:50.47\00:36:51.81
and we walked that walk,
00:36:51.84\00:36:54.08
and are still
there, you know, now.
00:36:54.11\00:36:57.68
2016, what month was it, honey,
00:36:57.71\00:37:00.05
where Jeremy
Krause contacted you?
00:37:00.08\00:37:04.59
Towards, probably September...
Like mid August right?
00:37:04.62\00:37:07.49
Mid August, September, yeah.
00:37:07.52\00:37:08.86
Yeah, so my sister Sula Skiles
00:37:08.89\00:37:12.39
that we spoke of has
become Sophy's mentor.
00:37:12.43\00:37:15.06
And Sula is a
survivor of sex trafficking,
00:37:15.10\00:37:17.73
and she's now
phenomenal speaker for it,
00:37:17.77\00:37:20.50
a part of many organizations
00:37:20.54\00:37:22.50
that fight this
horrendous injustice.
00:37:22.54\00:37:26.14
So we always knew
that we would always do
00:37:26.17\00:37:27.94
something together
00:37:27.98\00:37:29.38
and we just didn't
know what it would be.
00:37:29.41\00:37:31.48
And Sophy was on
Instagram one day
00:37:31.51\00:37:36.32
and she tells it
better than I do, so...
00:37:36.35\00:37:37.99
Well, I was on Instagram
one day and I, you know,
00:37:38.02\00:37:40.26
this man was just
liking all the pictures,
00:37:40.29\00:37:41.82
and the ministry
pictures, and stuff like that
00:37:41.86\00:37:43.96
and I went on his page
00:37:43.99\00:37:45.33
and I saw that him and
his wife are in Thailand
00:37:45.36\00:37:47.30
and they're doing ministry
in Thailand and, obviously,
00:37:47.33\00:37:50.20
Thailand is my home.
00:37:50.23\00:37:51.93
So and I saw that
they're, you know,
00:37:51.97\00:37:55.50
in the human trafficking arena,
00:37:55.54\00:37:58.14
so I just sent
them a message and say,
00:37:58.17\00:37:59.51
"Hey, you know, brother,
00:37:59.54\00:38:00.88
you know you guys are doing
awesome job in Thailand, and,
00:38:00.91\00:38:03.31
you know, I'm going to continue
to pray for you, and your wife,
00:38:03.35\00:38:05.51
and your ministry."
00:38:05.55\00:38:06.88
And he hit us up
right away and say,
00:38:06.92\00:38:08.35
"Hey, I see that
you're a Christian
00:38:08.38\00:38:09.88
and you're Thai 'cause
there's 1% in Christianity
00:38:09.92\00:38:12.75
in Thailand".
00:38:12.79\00:38:14.12
One percent! Wow, 1%?
00:38:14.16\00:38:15.49
Lower than one
percent. Lot of work to do.
00:38:15.52\00:38:17.63
So when I accepted the Christ
00:38:17.66\00:38:19.23
I've come from the
home of Buddhism, you know,
00:38:19.26\00:38:22.16
and I'm the only
Christian in my home.
00:38:22.20\00:38:24.70
So when I accepted Christ,
I've always asked God like,
00:38:24.73\00:38:28.84
"God, use me as
your hands and feet
00:38:28.87\00:38:30.94
to go back home to
increase that number,
00:38:30.97\00:38:33.31
I want to go spread, you
know, the love of Christ there".
00:38:33.34\00:38:36.71
And but I didn't
know what avenue,
00:38:36.75\00:38:39.05
so when Jeremy and I
spoke it just, you know,
00:38:39.08\00:38:43.42
the Holy Spirit just spoke to us
00:38:43.45\00:38:45.12
and then being
around my mentor Sula,
00:38:45.15\00:38:47.62
and hearing her story,
in part with, you know,
00:38:47.66\00:38:51.49
the traumatic background
00:38:51.53\00:38:53.36
that I came from
dealing with trauma,
00:38:53.40\00:38:55.83
and sexual abuse,
and all that stuff
00:38:55.86\00:38:59.00
it just, it just
really heighten my passion
00:38:59.03\00:39:01.84
for human and sex trafficking.
00:39:01.87\00:39:03.81
We need to hear your testimony.
00:39:03.84\00:39:05.17
I was just getting ready to say
00:39:05.21\00:39:06.54
gives us a little what happened.
00:39:06.57\00:39:10.05
Yeah. I was born in Thailand
in a small village, you know,
00:39:10.08\00:39:13.68
to a family of
farmers very poor.
00:39:13.72\00:39:15.85
Came in when I was two,
00:39:15.88\00:39:17.22
actually sponsored
by a Christian lady,
00:39:17.25\00:39:20.29
to the United States
00:39:20.32\00:39:21.66
and stayed in
Connecticut all my life.
00:39:21.69\00:39:23.06
But in my culture women
are very marginalized, right.
00:39:23.09\00:39:27.60
And we are to be
submissive at any cost.
00:39:27.63\00:39:30.07
So the blueprint I
have with, you know,
00:39:30.10\00:39:32.80
was domestic
violence, and alcohol abuse,
00:39:32.83\00:39:37.81
and I was sexually
molested by family members
00:39:37.84\00:39:40.41
by the age of 12.
00:39:40.44\00:39:41.78
And, you know, and I
think at that very moment
00:39:41.81\00:39:45.61
is when I questioned
my value and my worth
00:39:45.65\00:39:50.02
because my
father didn't protect me
00:39:50.05\00:39:52.05
when these things
were presented. So...
00:39:52.09\00:39:54.69
Your father
knew about the abuse?
00:39:54.72\00:39:56.69
Well, yeah.
00:39:56.73\00:39:58.09
But in my culture you
don't talk about things.
00:39:58.13\00:40:01.26
You just keep it
moving, you know.
00:40:01.30\00:40:03.67
And so I think
that was the point of me
00:40:03.70\00:40:07.77
determining how I was gonna
look at myself and my life.
00:40:07.80\00:40:13.17
I didn't have an identity, yeah,
00:40:13.21\00:40:14.88
I was always the
lesser person, you know.
00:40:14.91\00:40:18.98
So after that just a
series of attempt to suicides,
00:40:19.01\00:40:24.65
and cutting myself
was just a way of dealing
00:40:24.69\00:40:27.39
with dysfunction, and
trauma, and then, you know,
00:40:27.42\00:40:30.83
I had my son at 17,
00:40:30.86\00:40:32.69
and that was a domestic
violence relationship as well.
00:40:32.73\00:40:37.17
This was my blueprint, you know.
00:40:37.20\00:40:38.73
I've given myself to a man,
this was gonna be my husband
00:40:38.77\00:40:42.60
for the rest of my life
00:40:42.64\00:40:43.97
regardless of
what's gonna go on,
00:40:44.01\00:40:45.71
you know, that was my mindset.
00:40:45.74\00:40:49.34
So that was my mindset
just going through life now,
00:40:49.38\00:40:52.38
and not fully knowing
who I am and understanding
00:40:52.41\00:40:55.08
my value and my worth,
00:40:55.12\00:40:56.69
even at the age of my
early 20s accepting Christ
00:40:56.72\00:41:00.56
through a relationship,
00:41:00.59\00:41:01.92
I was dating a
pastor's son at the time,
00:41:01.96\00:41:04.26
and that's how, you know,
I encountered Christianity
00:41:04.29\00:41:08.03
but just on, you
know, the surface.
00:41:08.06\00:41:10.60
I've never heard
the gospel before,
00:41:10.63\00:41:12.67
never heard the gospel before.
00:41:12.70\00:41:14.20
And one evening I was
invited by his mother to come
00:41:14.24\00:41:19.91
and hear a man
speak from South Africa.
00:41:19.94\00:41:23.24
You got to come,
Sophy, you got to come,
00:41:23.28\00:41:24.61
this man is awesome".
00:41:24.65\00:41:25.98
I went out of respect,
you know I went to church
00:41:26.01\00:41:28.28
but I'm a
Buddhist, I haven't converted
00:41:28.32\00:41:30.72
but I'm going out of respect
for the elders and stuff.
00:41:30.75\00:41:33.66
So I went to
hear that the speaker
00:41:33.69\00:41:36.02
was sitting in the
way, way back and at the,
00:41:36.06\00:41:39.06
and don't even ask me
what the sermon was about
00:41:39.09\00:41:40.80
'cause I don't know my mind
was totally on something else.
00:41:40.83\00:41:43.26
At the end of the
service he said, you know,
00:41:43.30\00:41:47.14
young lady with the
floor just sitting in the back,
00:41:47.17\00:41:49.27
you know, come over,
come up to the altar.
00:41:49.30\00:41:52.24
And I'm looking around like,
00:41:52.27\00:41:53.61
"Who's he talking
about not me", you know.
00:41:53.64\00:41:56.34
I'm like, "What is
this about?" You know.
00:41:56.38\00:41:59.78
And he said,
"You know, young lady,
00:41:59.81\00:42:01.28
you know, please come up,
00:42:01.32\00:42:02.92
you know, I
like to pray for you.
00:42:02.95\00:42:05.72
And I was like, okay, I got
up and not even all the way up,
00:42:05.75\00:42:10.59
probably to the
center of the altar I,
00:42:10.63\00:42:13.56
I felt just an
overwhelming presence
00:42:13.60\00:42:16.36
and I started to shake
and cry really, really badly.
00:42:16.40\00:42:19.73
And I said "I got up
here", he just looked in my eyes
00:42:19.77\00:42:21.90
and he said, "You
know, you're just so precious
00:42:21.94\00:42:24.44
and you're going to evangelize
around the world one day".
00:42:24.47\00:42:29.64
And that was the message to me.
00:42:29.68\00:42:31.01
I didn't know
what evangelism is.
00:42:31.05\00:42:32.41
I didn't know what evangelism,
I've never heard the gospel
00:42:32.45\00:42:34.72
so I'm just like
crying because I'm emotional
00:42:34.75\00:42:37.09
and feeling this presence
00:42:37.12\00:42:38.45
that was warm
and it was electric.
00:42:38.49\00:42:40.46
It was just it was overwhelming
and he's speaking these things
00:42:40.49\00:42:43.43
and the elders of the
church just got around
00:42:43.46\00:42:45.83
and prayed for me.
00:42:45.86\00:42:47.46
I didn't know
still what was going on.
00:42:47.50\00:42:49.10
But that night
though, that night,
00:42:49.13\00:42:50.60
that night I knew it was
Jesus and I felt the Holy Spirit
00:42:50.63\00:42:54.67
because He
visited me in my dream.
00:42:54.70\00:42:57.67
And it was just
a beautiful dream
00:42:57.71\00:42:59.37
where I remember to this
day, and I'll tell everybody,
00:42:59.41\00:43:01.74
and anyone if they
asked about Christ is that,
00:43:01.78\00:43:04.15
you know, I was
walking on the road
00:43:04.18\00:43:05.51
just like Paul in Damascus
I was walking on this road,
00:43:05.55\00:43:07.52
just walking, and walking,
00:43:07.55\00:43:08.88
and just very down in the dream,
00:43:08.92\00:43:11.49
and then soon there was
just a light like a glory
00:43:11.52\00:43:14.09
and it was just so heavy
00:43:14.12\00:43:15.52
that I couldn't
even look right into it
00:43:15.56\00:43:17.79
'cause it would, you know,
blind me that was the light.
00:43:17.83\00:43:20.43
So I turned away a little bit,
00:43:20.46\00:43:22.16
and then I felt
this light coming by me,
00:43:22.20\00:43:25.50
and as it passed me,
00:43:25.53\00:43:27.30
I was able to turn
around a little bit,
00:43:27.34\00:43:29.17
and then this man's
face, whom I know was God,
00:43:29.20\00:43:31.97
who's Jesus, looked and
smiled and it was so bright.
00:43:32.01\00:43:35.68
And He said to me,
"You shall not die."
00:43:35.71\00:43:38.45
And that was my dream.
00:43:38.48\00:43:39.81
I woke up the next
day, I was just crying,
00:43:39.85\00:43:42.08
and call calling my pastor,
00:43:42.12\00:43:43.69
and I went to church
the following weekend
00:43:43.72\00:43:46.25
and accepted Christ
as my Lord and Savior.
00:43:46.29\00:43:49.39
I didn't know
still what the Gospel
00:43:49.42\00:43:50.83
but I know I never felt
00:43:50.86\00:43:52.39
something so real
and so, so tangible,
00:43:52.43\00:43:56.67
it was a tangible
encounter, you know,
00:43:56.70\00:43:59.07
it was just not just reading
scriptures and just, you know,
00:43:59.10\00:44:02.97
surface knowledge
00:44:03.00\00:44:06.57
but I actually had an encounter,
00:44:06.61\00:44:08.58
and He's so real like that.
00:44:08.61\00:44:10.11
How did your family
react to that since...
00:44:10.15\00:44:13.31
Right I know.
00:44:13.35\00:44:14.68
Christians so like how
did they respond to that?
00:44:14.72\00:44:16.75
Well, they mocked
me a lot at first.
00:44:16.79\00:44:18.72
So my grandmother who
is a religious Buddhist,
00:44:18.75\00:44:22.66
she was very
actually supportive to it.
00:44:22.69\00:44:26.49
She would say, "Hey, you know,
00:44:26.53\00:44:27.86
I heard about Jesus
Christ He's a good man".
00:44:27.90\00:44:29.66
You know? "You do
whatever you want to do",
00:44:29.70\00:44:32.03
and that was her stance on it
00:44:32.07\00:44:33.44
but other family
members mocked me
00:44:33.47\00:44:35.07
like they would say you know
00:44:35.10\00:44:36.47
don't talk about
Jesus Christ around here,
00:44:36.50\00:44:38.47
you know, people would
ask me, "Okay, what happened?"
00:44:38.51\00:44:40.81
There was they
started to get curious
00:44:40.84\00:44:42.24
because of the
change in the lifestyle,
00:44:42.28\00:44:46.31
so they would
get curious about it
00:44:46.35\00:44:47.68
and they would ask me,
00:44:47.72\00:44:49.05
and it would be my opportunity
00:44:49.08\00:44:50.42
to share a
little bit of my story.
00:44:50.45\00:44:52.15
But it got so bad where I
got so offensive sometimes
00:44:52.19\00:44:54.99
'cause they would be
like, "You Jesus freak",
00:44:55.02\00:44:56.36
or, you know.
00:44:56.39\00:44:57.86
You know, don't come around here
00:44:57.89\00:44:59.23
talking about Jesus,
00:44:59.26\00:45:00.60
you know, we're Buddhist,
and this is our culture,
00:45:00.63\00:45:01.96
and this is our religion,
00:45:02.00\00:45:03.33
and you know
you do what you want
00:45:03.37\00:45:04.70
but you don't come around
here and speak those things.
00:45:04.73\00:45:07.24
So that's what I was
dealing with, with a lot.
00:45:07.27\00:45:10.47
But even at that time,
00:45:10.51\00:45:12.11
I didn't have a faith based home
00:45:12.14\00:45:14.08
so it wasn't strong, you know.
00:45:14.11\00:45:16.54
The connection that I had
was through my ex-boyfriend,
00:45:16.58\00:45:20.35
his parents, and
his side of the family,
00:45:20.38\00:45:22.92
so when that relationship ended,
00:45:22.95\00:45:25.12
I didn't have anybody kind
of to really be mentored by,
00:45:25.15\00:45:30.43
and to really just help
me through this faith walk,
00:45:30.46\00:45:34.63
so I kind of was
lost through my ways in.
00:45:34.66\00:45:39.13
And didn't really fully submit,
00:45:39.17\00:45:42.37
was believer but
not a true follower.
00:45:42.40\00:45:45.54
All right, so
what, what was the,
00:45:45.57\00:45:47.04
what marked the turning point?
00:45:47.08\00:45:48.41
The turning
point was going through
00:45:48.44\00:45:49.78
so many different relationships
with different men,
00:45:49.81\00:45:52.85
trying to find love, you know,
only to be abused, you know,
00:45:52.88\00:45:58.22
same spirit different faces.
00:45:58.25\00:46:00.82
Right.
00:46:00.86\00:46:02.19
Now we're really
dealing with who I am
00:46:02.22\00:46:03.56
and identifying
myself with Christ.
00:46:03.59\00:46:06.09
So I continued to
go through this life
00:46:06.13\00:46:08.66
of just different relationships
to a different relationship
00:46:08.70\00:46:10.90
and it wasn't until
the last relationship
00:46:10.93\00:46:13.20
before Brian, I've
never really been single
00:46:13.23\00:46:15.80
'cause I was scared to be alone.
00:46:15.84\00:46:17.24
Okay?
00:46:17.27\00:46:18.61
So the last relationship
before Brian I said, I'm done,
00:46:18.64\00:46:23.38
you know, I'm done with this.
00:46:23.41\00:46:25.21
And I got on my knees
one day and it wasn't until,
00:46:25.25\00:46:29.65
it was like two
and half years ago,
00:46:29.68\00:46:32.25
I said, "I'm done, God,
00:46:32.29\00:46:33.86
I want your way
and your will only.
00:46:33.89\00:46:37.36
I fully submit".
00:46:37.39\00:46:38.73
And I don't think
that people fully submit
00:46:38.76\00:46:41.00
because of the
pain and the costs
00:46:41.03\00:46:42.36
that is associated
with full submission,
00:46:42.40\00:46:44.50
you're gonna
lose a lot of stuff.
00:46:44.53\00:46:46.17
People are scared of change
00:46:46.20\00:46:48.67
and they don't want to
let go of certain things
00:46:48.70\00:46:50.21
even things that
they say they love
00:46:50.24\00:46:52.27
that are not
good for them, right?
00:46:52.31\00:46:54.24
So I said that's it,
that's it I'm done, all you.
00:46:54.28\00:46:58.68
And I'll tell you that
room when I say encounters,
00:46:58.71\00:47:02.98
He's so good in real like that
00:47:03.02\00:47:06.35
I felt such a warmth
that evening in my bedroom
00:47:06.39\00:47:10.16
and I knew that's there
was a whole transformation
00:47:10.19\00:47:14.26
to have taken place.
00:47:14.30\00:47:15.63
Yes, I've accepted Christ,
00:47:15.66\00:47:18.17
I had this
revelation of His love for me
00:47:18.20\00:47:20.30
but transformation
doesn't take place
00:47:20.34\00:47:22.50
until you get
that full revelation
00:47:22.54\00:47:24.77
of His love, and who you
are, and what you're made to do.
00:47:24.81\00:47:29.91
So that changed me totally.
00:47:29.94\00:47:31.78
In that morning, I'll tell you
00:47:31.81\00:47:33.42
it was just a
whole weight lifted off,
00:47:33.45\00:47:35.95
I started to really,
really pursue the things
00:47:35.98\00:47:38.92
that God has placed in my life,
and I fell in love with Christ,
00:47:38.95\00:47:44.29
I fell in love to
the point where I said,
00:47:44.33\00:47:45.93
"God, if I wasn't
going to get married,
00:47:45.96\00:47:48.46
marry or have a
husband, I'm good.
00:47:48.50\00:47:50.50
Because this is so fulfilling,
00:47:50.53\00:47:51.87
I've never felt so good
and so fulfilled in my life".
00:47:51.90\00:47:57.04
You're glad that
didn't happen, right?
00:47:57.07\00:47:59.34
Seven months later I showed up.
00:47:59.37\00:48:01.71
So, you know, to any
single ladies out there,
00:48:01.74\00:48:06.88
you know, if you chase Him...
00:48:06.92\00:48:10.09
That is the key. Yeah.
00:48:10.12\00:48:11.82
It's that just not the key
00:48:11.85\00:48:13.46
because the Lord
wants your heart first.
00:48:13.49\00:48:15.89
Yes, yes.
00:48:15.92\00:48:17.26
Then, then someone
else can be a part of that
00:48:17.29\00:48:21.33
but you and Him first. Yes.
00:48:21.36\00:48:23.67
I really believe that
too with all my heart.
00:48:23.70\00:48:26.30
And it was so crazy
because it just like
00:48:26.33\00:48:28.30
even though I
didn't want a husband,
00:48:28.34\00:48:29.90
he had the Holy Spirit
00:48:29.94\00:48:31.27
to really,
really place in my heart
00:48:31.31\00:48:32.64
to really understand and
read about healthy relationship
00:48:32.67\00:48:35.91
because I didn't have
healthy relationships,
00:48:35.94\00:48:37.65
I've broken relationships
full of abuse, and lies,
00:48:37.68\00:48:41.65
and, you know, things,
00:48:41.68\00:48:43.02
and I started to read
about healthy relationship
00:48:43.05\00:48:45.59
just simple healthy relation
with family, and friends,
00:48:45.62\00:48:47.92
and coworkers, it was simple.
00:48:47.96\00:48:50.43
Then he got me on to, I watched
one video of Dr. Myles Munroe
00:48:50.46\00:48:54.53
and he talked about
relationships and how,
00:48:54.56\00:48:58.47
you know, we woman meet
men in heat and in passion
00:48:58.50\00:49:02.54
not in purpose and in vision.
00:49:02.57\00:49:05.37
So...
00:49:05.41\00:49:07.38
And that really
was profound to me
00:49:07.41\00:49:09.44
because it just
really explained,
00:49:09.48\00:49:11.45
you know, the cycle that
I went through, you know,
00:49:11.48\00:49:15.02
and I'm like that's it, if
he's not in passion I mean,
00:49:15.05\00:49:17.82
if he's not in
purpose and in vision,
00:49:17.85\00:49:19.69
I can't even talk to the dude.
00:49:19.72\00:49:22.46
Basically, like our
conversation was like,
00:49:22.49\00:49:25.99
"What kind of vision
do you have for our life?"
00:49:26.03\00:49:28.76
You know.
00:49:28.80\00:49:30.13
Looking what God, He
set you guys in purpose.
00:49:30.17\00:49:32.73
In purpose. And,
and I really want...
00:49:32.77\00:49:35.87
Your testimony is amazing, Jay.
00:49:35.90\00:49:38.97
I mean look at
what God has done.
00:49:39.01\00:49:41.61
He worked on both
of you apart healed you
00:49:41.64\00:49:45.95
because you were broken...
00:49:45.98\00:49:48.32
And still broken.
We're still broken.
00:49:48.35\00:49:49.98
And then brought
you together. Yeah.
00:49:50.02\00:49:51.35
We're all broken, yeah.
00:49:51.39\00:49:52.72
We're all, you
know, we're broken.
00:49:52.75\00:49:54.29
But He healed you by
attaching you to Him,
00:49:54.32\00:50:00.10
and then you guys could
attach to each other in purpose.
00:50:00.13\00:50:04.23
So let's talk
about the sex trade
00:50:04.27\00:50:05.97
because I can't believe
our time is getting away.
00:50:06.00\00:50:08.70
And your
testimonies are just so profound
00:50:08.74\00:50:11.71
and our viewers
need to know who you are
00:50:11.74\00:50:14.08
because you're getting
ready to take all that God
00:50:14.11\00:50:17.58
has given you
into the mission field.
00:50:17.61\00:50:20.72
Tell us about it.
00:50:20.75\00:50:22.08
Well, there is just
another level of ministry
00:50:22.12\00:50:23.45
that He's called us
to, you know, He's all,
00:50:23.49\00:50:24.82
God is always about
increasing and expansion.
00:50:24.85\00:50:27.02
So He's called
us to the anti-human
00:50:27.06\00:50:30.46
in sex trafficking field.
00:50:30.49\00:50:32.23
We founded a
nonprofit organization
00:50:32.26\00:50:34.23
that is called the G51 Project,
00:50:34.26\00:50:36.43
which is founded
on the principles
00:50:36.46\00:50:38.13
found in
Galatians 5:1 which says,
00:50:38.17\00:50:41.30
my wife quotes
it better than I do.
00:50:41.34\00:50:42.67
Okay.
00:50:42.70\00:50:44.04
But it is for freedom
that Christ has set us free
00:50:44.07\00:50:45.71
so stand firm and
do not let yourselves
00:50:45.74\00:50:48.11
be yoke by slavery ever again,
00:50:48.14\00:50:52.31
so that's what G51
is founded on, yeah.
00:50:52.35\00:50:54.52
And we have a website
we're gonna put up too.
00:50:54.55\00:50:56.62
Yeah, thank you.
00:50:56.65\00:50:57.99
The entire verse
is just in the chapter
00:50:58.02\00:50:59.69
is about freedom
in Christ, period.
00:50:59.72\00:51:01.82
So I actually said,
we talked to Jeremy Kraus
00:51:01.86\00:51:04.73
the founder of the
00:51:04.76\00:51:06.56
Thrive Rescue international
organization in Thailand,
00:51:06.59\00:51:09.50
we spoke with him and
immediately, you know,
00:51:09.53\00:51:11.50
how sometimes you just
have a connection with people.
00:51:11.53\00:51:14.07
Like there's a
divine connection, period,
00:51:14.10\00:51:15.70
like I just feel
connected to you,
00:51:15.74\00:51:17.14
you feel connected to me,
00:51:17.17\00:51:18.51
and there's something for
us to do, let's figure it out.
00:51:18.54\00:51:22.01
We had that conversation
and shortly after he posted
00:51:22.04\00:51:24.88
that Thrive Rescue
was hosting schooling
00:51:24.91\00:51:26.92
called Thrive Justice School...
00:51:26.95\00:51:29.28
Thrive what school?
Thrive Justice School.
00:51:29.32\00:51:30.92
Justice. Yes, mam.
00:51:30.95\00:51:32.29
Which is an extensive
and intensive training
00:51:32.32\00:51:34.69
for six weeks
and upon completion
00:51:34.72\00:51:36.86
you will be certified in
global injustice response,
00:51:36.89\00:51:39.83
qualifying you to speak globally
00:51:39.86\00:51:41.66
on this particular injustice.
00:51:41.70\00:51:43.70
So that's what
we will be obtaining
00:51:43.73\00:51:45.30
and we're headed
to Thailand in June,
00:51:45.33\00:51:48.27
and we're currently
fundraising for that
00:51:48.30\00:51:50.07
as well as other
things that God has given us
00:51:50.11\00:51:52.11
to develop like
a Safe Heaven Home
00:51:52.14\00:51:54.58
for victims that
have been resumed
00:51:54.61\00:51:56.98
for their restoration
and their rehabilitation.
00:51:57.01\00:51:59.68
And we're reformulating
that and building it
00:51:59.71\00:52:03.85
wherever He tells us to put it
00:52:03.89\00:52:05.39
most likely with in
Huntsville, Alabama.
00:52:05.42\00:52:07.19
What are your current
needs? What do you need?
00:52:07.22\00:52:10.23
We need partners,
man, we need partners.
00:52:10.26\00:52:12.26
In fundraisings you
need funds, you know,
00:52:12.29\00:52:13.76
'cause this thing costs.
00:52:13.80\00:52:15.13
So what we did was we
took 3000 out of our, you know,
00:52:15.16\00:52:17.50
savings account, you
know, we're not, you know,
00:52:17.53\00:52:19.17
financially, you
know, rich people you know.
00:52:19.20\00:52:21.74
Really the last
bit that we have.
00:52:21.77\00:52:23.47
Right.
00:52:23.51\00:52:24.84
Just because God that's what
He said to do, so, you know,
00:52:24.87\00:52:26.27
it's not a thing
like He gave it us,
00:52:26.31\00:52:27.64
He'll take care of us,
00:52:27.68\00:52:29.01
we are not worried about
that, we'll give it to you,
00:52:29.04\00:52:30.38
we've seen way too many miracles
00:52:30.41\00:52:32.05
and know that
you can do all things
00:52:32.08\00:52:34.08
to ever begin to doubt you
now, and He sustained us, right?
00:52:34.12\00:52:37.12
So it's really just about
Him being able to trust you
00:52:37.15\00:52:38.92
with the way He's
preparing you to receive.
00:52:38.95\00:52:40.62
So we gave that,
00:52:40.66\00:52:41.99
then we've been
raising the money,
00:52:42.02\00:52:43.36
we were 51% of
the way there now,
00:52:43.39\00:52:45.19
so that's just a blessing
and a testimony in itself
00:52:45.23\00:52:47.33
'cause every month we
make it, you know what I mean.
00:52:47.36\00:52:49.76
So we're currently
fundraising for that venture,
00:52:49.80\00:52:51.97
as I said we'll be
there for six weeks.
00:52:52.00\00:52:53.34
And when we come back,
00:52:53.37\00:52:54.70
we will be developing
the safe house for victims
00:52:54.74\00:52:57.94
that have been rescued
and we'll be partnering
00:52:57.97\00:52:59.87
with local law enforcement
and U.S. Marshals, FBI,
00:52:59.91\00:53:03.04
and other
organizations that are fighting
00:53:03.08\00:53:05.51
to eradicate this injustice.
00:53:05.55\00:53:07.58
How prevalent is it in
the United States because,
00:53:07.62\00:53:10.62
you know, you don't
hear that much about it?
00:53:10.65\00:53:13.15
Thirteen billion
dollars a year in the US alone.
00:53:13.19\00:53:15.72
Thirteen billion!
00:53:15.76\00:53:17.36
One hundred fifty
billion worldwide.
00:53:17.39\00:53:19.06
Hundred fifty billion worldwide!
00:53:19.09\00:53:20.46
So twenty seven
million. How does it work?
00:53:20.50\00:53:23.13
How does it a
girl become enslaved?
00:53:23.16\00:53:25.57
Well, there are
several ways, you know,
00:53:25.60\00:53:27.74
like for instance
with our sister Sula.
00:53:27.77\00:53:29.50
They met her party on Hollywood,
00:53:29.54\00:53:32.57
promised her a
modeling contract,
00:53:32.61\00:53:33.98
and she did
model, and got her ticket
00:53:34.01\00:53:36.61
but it was a one way ticket,
00:53:36.64\00:53:38.01
and she was so
excited about the opportunity
00:53:38.05\00:53:40.05
and the people where she was,
00:53:40.08\00:53:41.42
it looked so great
00:53:41.45\00:53:42.78
that she didn't
really suspect anything.
00:53:42.82\00:53:44.22
Right.
00:53:44.25\00:53:45.59
She gets on a plane, she goes,
00:53:45.62\00:53:46.96
and she was the gift
for a billionaire's wife.
00:53:46.99\00:53:48.99
Oh, my.
00:53:49.02\00:53:50.66
Yes, yes, she was a
gift for billionaire's wife.
00:53:50.69\00:53:53.13
And she was
there for many months.
00:53:53.16\00:53:55.46
And...
00:53:55.50\00:53:56.83
How is it that
they can't get out?
00:53:56.87\00:53:58.43
Well, when you get there,
00:53:58.47\00:53:59.80
they take all
your documentation,
00:53:59.83\00:54:01.17
they take your passport.
00:54:01.20\00:54:02.54
Oh, she came from another land.
00:54:02.57\00:54:04.61
She came from here to California
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and went somewhere
toward the Middle East.
00:54:07.44\00:54:09.21
Oh, I got you. Okay.
00:54:09.24\00:54:11.28
So they take all
of your information.
00:54:11.31\00:54:12.65
Okay, so you're at
their mercy, period.
00:54:12.68\00:54:14.38
And it is a life
threatening situation
00:54:14.42\00:54:17.72
and she saw people
not come back, you know,
00:54:17.75\00:54:20.59
if they were
rebellious, and so forth.
00:54:20.62\00:54:23.43
So she submitted,
she submitted she was...
00:54:23.46\00:54:28.60
They drug you, there
is a breakdown process
00:54:28.63\00:54:31.70
where you don't trust people,
you can't talk to people,
00:54:31.73\00:54:36.07
you have no
resources, you have no network,
00:54:36.10\00:54:38.07
and you're pretty
much just a slave.
00:54:38.11\00:54:39.87
It is the exact same thing
that was happening with slavery
00:54:39.91\00:54:42.21
from Africa to
Americas and so forth
00:54:42.24\00:54:44.18
where people are just sold.
00:54:44.21\00:54:46.18
There are like I
said, 27 million people
00:54:46.21\00:54:48.72
in sex trafficking it
happens in various ways,
00:54:48.75\00:54:50.55
you have the
modeling situations,
00:54:50.59\00:54:51.92
and have
promises of better jobs,
00:54:51.95\00:54:53.39
where mothers
and their daughters
00:54:53.42\00:54:54.89
have been duped into it
00:54:54.92\00:54:57.43
like there's
stories of that happening,
00:54:57.46\00:54:58.89
then there's also social media
00:54:58.93\00:55:00.33
which is super,
super dangerous right now.
00:55:00.36\00:55:02.46
Because, if you
meet a young man,
00:55:02.50\00:55:05.30
he promises you these things,
00:55:05.33\00:55:06.77
he would be your
boyfriend for a while even,
00:55:06.80\00:55:08.67
and then they will literally
set them up to be raped,
00:55:08.70\00:55:12.54
you know, they'll drug
them, they'll rape them,
00:55:12.57\00:55:14.28
you wake up, and
you're in the situation now,
00:55:14.31\00:55:17.25
you have no
freedoms, you have no rights,
00:55:17.28\00:55:20.25
and you are no longer a
person, you are a commodity.
00:55:20.28\00:55:22.88
And the reason why it's
so financially prosperous
00:55:22.92\00:55:28.09
is because I can sell a
person over and over again.
00:55:28.12\00:55:31.63
Wow.
00:55:31.66\00:55:32.99
I can continue to sell
you it doesn't matter what...
00:55:33.03\00:55:34.66
Looks like
you're in a situation.
00:55:34.70\00:55:36.70
Period. Wow.
00:55:36.73\00:55:38.67
So, they do it
there's also recruiting from
00:55:38.70\00:55:41.64
what they call
"Bottom girls" you know,
00:55:41.67\00:55:43.00
we won't call, but they call it.
00:55:43.04\00:55:45.21
But basically a recruiter,
that's been broken in,
00:55:45.24\00:55:48.01
and they will go out,
they will befriend you,
00:55:48.04\00:55:50.21
and you're a young person,
this isn't about poverty issue,
00:55:50.25\00:55:53.92
a good neighborhood
bad neighborhood thing,
00:55:53.95\00:55:55.68
good family, bad neighborhood,
00:55:55.72\00:55:57.05
now they're coming for
your daughters, you understand?
00:55:57.09\00:55:59.02
And it doesn't matter.
00:55:59.05\00:56:00.39
If you're human
being with vulnerabilities,
00:56:00.42\00:56:02.49
you are suspect for
it's happened to you,
00:56:02.52\00:56:05.29
and that's any and
everybody to whatever age.
00:56:05.33\00:56:08.00
So in America the average
age is from 12 to 16 years old,
00:56:08.03\00:56:11.23
and 76% of those victims
are young Caucasian females.
00:56:11.27\00:56:15.24
Worldwide out of the 27 million,
00:56:15.27\00:56:17.91
14% are children ages 12 to 16.
00:56:17.94\00:56:23.95
It's so horrendous like
we believe that this is evil
00:56:23.98\00:56:26.51
in its purest form
00:56:26.55\00:56:27.88
like this is the most
demonic presence on earth
00:56:27.92\00:56:29.25
'cause you have
to be fully engulfed
00:56:29.28\00:56:32.35
and demon
possession to sell a child.
00:56:32.39\00:56:36.32
You are raping kids.
00:56:36.36\00:56:37.69
You're setting
kids up to be raped.
00:56:37.73\00:56:39.73
And it's so evil like
it's hard to talk about.
00:56:39.76\00:56:44.07
Yeah, and then in South East
00:56:44.10\00:56:45.43
you have parents
that are knowledgeable,
00:56:45.47\00:56:49.00
knowingly selling their children
00:56:49.04\00:56:51.41
for sex or for
luxury items even, you know,
00:56:51.44\00:56:55.21
like Cambodia the customers
are prominently westerners
00:56:55.24\00:57:00.35
that go there,
and buy little girls
00:57:00.38\00:57:03.52
that are at six,
seven years old for sex.
00:57:03.55\00:57:05.62
Oh!
00:57:05.65\00:57:06.99
We thank you for
what you're doing,
00:57:07.02\00:57:08.92
we're gonna be praying for you.
00:57:08.96\00:57:10.33
Thank you. Praise the Lord.
00:57:10.36\00:57:11.69
And we are going to
make sure that we share this
00:57:11.73\00:57:15.63
because you've
heard it now, viewer.
00:57:15.66\00:57:18.70
In the New International Version
00:57:18.73\00:57:20.97
of the Bible Isaiah 61:1 says,
00:57:21.00\00:57:23.17
"The spirit of the
Lord God is upon me
00:57:23.20\00:57:24.84
because the Lord has anointed me
00:57:24.87\00:57:27.01
to bring good
news to the afflicted,
00:57:27.04\00:57:29.04
He sent me to bind
up the brokenhearted
00:57:29.08\00:57:31.28
to proclaim
liberty to the captives
00:57:31.31\00:57:33.31
and freedom to prisoners."
00:57:33.35\00:57:34.92
Brian and Sophy
are being used by God
00:57:34.95\00:57:36.92
to help set the captives free.
00:57:36.95\00:57:38.92
Won't you help
them in this endeavor?
00:57:38.95\00:57:41.12
Ask the Holy Spirit
just how much you should give
00:57:41.16\00:57:43.53
in support of this mission,
00:57:43.56\00:57:45.29
freely you have
received, freely give.
00:57:45.33\00:57:48.46
Well, we've reached the end
of another program, you guys,
00:57:48.50\00:57:51.33
thank you so much
for being with us.
00:57:51.37\00:57:53.84
It was
wonderful, what a blessing.
00:57:53.87\00:57:55.94
God's got a great
thing in store for you.
00:57:55.97\00:57:57.87
And thank you, Jay.
00:57:57.91\00:57:59.37
Join us next time
00:57:59.41\00:58:00.74
'cause it just wouldn't
be the same without you.
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