Participants: Vuong Doan
Series Code: UBR
Program Code: UBR000212A
00:01 Stay tuned to meet a millennial business entrepreneur,
00:03 who's using his talents to glorify God. 00:05 My name is Jason Bradley, 00:07 and you're watching Urban Report. 00:34 Hello, and welcome to Urban Report. 00:36 My guest today is Vuong Doan, 00:38 and he is determined to spread the gospel 00:40 in a very unique way. 00:41 Welcome to Urban Report Vuong. 00:43 Hey, Jason, good to be here. 00:45 Yes, man. 00:46 So there's so much stuff 00:48 that we want to get into in this particular program, 00:50 but let's take a look at your background. 00:52 Sure. 00:53 Where did you grow up? 00:55 And were you always Adventist? 00:58 No, I grew... 01:00 I was born in Vietnam, South Vietnam. 01:03 So I grew up there, and I came to America in 1994. 01:07 So I've been here for a while 01:09 and I pretty much came with my family and everything. 01:12 So I kinda I think I'm more Americanized now. 01:14 Okay. 01:15 Then, you know, like, 01:17 but I can still speak Vietnamese 01:18 and stuff like that. 01:19 Wow. 01:21 Just it takes me a while to write and stuff, 01:22 but born there, I grew up in Southern California. 01:26 Okay. That's where my heart is. 01:28 That's why I love California. 01:30 Yeah. 01:31 And currently, I am in Houston, 01:33 so that's why I'm saying I love California. 01:35 Okay. 01:37 Family they... 01:39 We grew up as... 01:41 The whole family is of... 01:42 Our religion is Buddhism. 01:43 Okay. Yeah. 01:45 Okay. 01:46 And but you're an Adventist now? 01:48 I'm Adventist now, praise God. 01:49 So we need to get into how all that came about 01:53 and the dynamic in the family like 01:56 what is it like being Adventist in a family 01:59 whose primarily Buddhist. 02:01 Oh, totally. 02:03 That's, you know, it wasn't easy obviously, 02:07 but for me, after high school, 02:13 I guess you get to the age 02:14 where you kinda feel like you know everything, 02:16 you know, you're on your own. 02:18 You getting to college and stuff and... 02:20 At the same time, 02:21 it's when you question life I guess, 02:24 you know, where did I come from, 02:26 where am I going, 02:27 and what's the meaning of life and stuff. 02:29 And I've always liked Prophecies. 02:32 Okay. 02:34 Yeah, and so there was a documentary 02:38 with Nostradamus, 02:40 where he predicted this king will fall 02:42 or this event will happen, 02:43 and I was blown, I was fascinated. 02:46 These things he said it 02:47 and it happens like years later. 02:49 But the thing is those, my friend told me, 02:53 well, he is only 80% correct, 02:56 there's something that's 100% correct, 02:58 and it's Prophecy, 02:59 and I was curious about it, too. 03:01 Mm-hm. Yeah. 03:03 And, you know, if it's only 80% then it's not correct. 03:05 That's like okay, 03:06 like how the devil likes to do it, right? 03:09 He might throw 99% truth 03:12 but he'll put that 1% lie in there 03:16 and that makes it a little it's just not truth. 03:18 Hoping to get back. 03:19 Yeah, it's like would you drink... 03:22 I've heard this before, 03:24 would you take a glass of juice 03:26 that is 99% pure and, say, 1% poisonous. 03:32 Oh, no. Absolutely not. 03:33 Totally not, no. Absolutely not. 03:35 Yeah, so at that time, I questioned... 03:40 Actually, I studied, 03:41 tried to study every religion that's out there, you know. 03:45 Buddhism have fascinating story, 03:47 I liked the story and the philosophy 03:50 but certain thing didn't make sense, 03:51 certain thing didn't get answered. 03:53 So I looked into Islam stuff, I looked into Judaism, Hindu, 03:59 and Taoism, and even Christianity 04:02 and study a little bit each of the histories. 04:06 They all have fascinating stories 04:08 and everything. 04:09 Mm-hm. 04:11 And even in Christendom, each one... 04:13 That's where I was confused 'cause there's Catholic, 04:15 there's all these other Christians, 04:17 and then luckily my best friend, 04:21 he was an Adventist. 04:23 I was like "Who? 04:24 What? What? 04:25 Are you even a Christian? 04:27 What is Adventist, you know?" 04:28 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. 04:30 But he said no, no, no, Adventist Christian. 04:32 I said okay. 04:33 So they're different compared to all the Christians 04:37 I have met and stuff like that. 04:39 I noticed, you know, he said, 04:41 "Hey, come to church, check it out." 04:43 Luckily, he's my best friend, 04:46 the church is like down the street, 04:48 and, you know, we were both learning, 04:51 you know, and those were I believe, 04:53 You know, God just put those things together. 04:55 Absolutely, that's definitely divined providence, 04:57 and it sounds like you were hungry, 04:59 you were searching for answers 05:00 because you were brought up Buddhist, 05:03 but you weren't finding the answers that you need. 05:05 It didn't satisfy, 05:07 like the monks I've have spoken to, 05:09 they kinda did gave me a vague answer. 05:12 In fact, like everybody gave me a different answer like, 05:15 "Okay, you know, what happens when you die? 05:17 Or where did human came from? 05:19 And how does reincarnation work?" 05:21 Like they have concepts 05:23 but I didn't hear like about peace, 05:28 I didn't hear about love more, 05:29 I've heard about just how to live life 05:33 and try to do your best, 05:35 and like, you know, you are on your own basically, 05:37 that's what I felt like. 05:38 Whereas in the Christianity world, 05:42 you're on your own 05:43 but there's someone always that has your back 05:47 'cause sometimes 05:48 you can't just do everything on your own, right? 05:50 Absolutely not. 05:53 Yeah, we definitely need the power of Christ. 05:55 Exactly. 05:56 Working in us, on us, and through us. 05:58 Yeah, so he brought me to Church, 06:01 and the dashboard on his car was Amazing Facts study guide. 06:08 And the topic was about the Second Coming of Christ 06:15 and that one has the prophecy, the red moon's gonna happen, 06:18 or it happened already, right? 06:21 There's a prophecy where the stars 06:23 were so bright in the night 06:24 where you could read the newspaper, 06:26 the stars were falling, 06:27 just several things that came together 06:30 in the past 100%. 06:34 From Amazing Facts. 06:35 From Amazing Facts Bible study guide. 06:37 But that was lesson seven, so I was like there's more? 06:40 Yeah, yeah. 06:41 Yeah, so long story short, 06:44 I studied that on my own really fast, 06:48 even my best friend was like, 06:49 "Hey, you need to slow down. 06:50 These doctrines, these topics, 06:53 you know, they're heavy topics," 06:55 but I was eating it up. 06:57 I understood it, 06:58 there's nothing I was confused about it 06:59 like I went through a few... 07:01 Within a few weeks 07:03 even the advanced Amazing Facts Bible study guides. 07:06 And I learnt a lot, I learnt a lot more from those than, 07:11 you know, few people because it was fascinating. 07:14 Yeah, and you were hungry, 07:16 you knew that there was something more 07:17 that you needed, something that you're missing, 07:19 and that was Christ. 07:20 Exactly. That was Christ. 07:22 Now I have been extremely impressed 07:25 with the ministry in business that God has blessed you with. 07:31 Tell us a little bit about that. 07:34 You have several things going on, Vuong, I always... 07:37 I always tease you when I see you 07:39 about all the different things you have going on, 07:42 but tell us, it's really inspiring. 07:43 Tell us about 07:45 some of the shirts and the websites. 07:47 Tell us about that. Yeah, totally. 07:49 So I guess I started when... 07:52 How I started and basically, I think, 07:59 I always wanted to be an entrepreneur, 08:00 like I always wanted to work on my own, 08:02 be on my own, 'cause I did several office jobs, 08:06 I worked for companies, 08:07 and I did like things but a lot of times, 08:09 it's just routine and I like changes, 08:12 I like to do different task and everything. 08:15 I can't be in the office all day, 08:17 and so from that like I started to learn 08:22 about how to print t-shirts. 08:26 Wait, let me go back. 08:28 Okay. 08:29 Before I was baptized in high school, 08:34 I was with like a dancing screw so we did, you know, 08:37 dancing and stuff like that, and we needed t-shirts. 08:40 Okay. Yeah. There you go. 08:42 Okay. 08:44 And then we need it quick, too, so just we, 08:47 we kinda sprayed paint in different things 08:49 but that's not how you do shirts. 08:51 But I like creativity, I like art too, 08:55 so that just makes sense to me like drawing and graphic stuff. 09:00 Okay. 09:01 And then put that into a business 09:03 and, you know, you get printed t-shirts. 09:04 So from that concept basically, 09:08 I started my own 09:12 t-shirt custom printing, you know, company. 09:15 Which is called what? 09:17 Well, the first one is called the Shirt Dudes, 09:21 it's another one I worked on, 09:22 and then eventually leads to SDA Shirts right now 09:25 where I am doing also. 09:26 I'm still running both 09:28 and then I'm starting new clothing line, too. 09:30 Wow. 09:31 And I'm just... 09:32 I like shirts. 09:34 I see. 09:35 I have a lot of shirts at home. 09:37 Yeah. I would've imagined so. 09:38 My closet is like, you know, when you go somewhere 09:41 and they giveaway shirts, I say, 09:42 "Well, I have in home, there's a lot." 09:44 Yes, yes, yes. 09:46 So you basically took what you were passionate about 09:48 and you combined both interest, 09:51 your passion with art and creativity and God. 09:53 Art, creativity, 09:55 and then SDA Shirts was born 09:57 because God came into the picture. 10:00 Hmm, nice. 10:01 Before, I was doing custom shirts 10:03 for churches and businesses and schools, 10:06 I started out in my garage. 10:07 Uh-huh. 10:09 Nobody needs to know. 10:10 On the website, it looks like you're a big company 10:11 but down to my garage, 10:13 but praise God, you know, I am in a real shop now. 10:16 Yes, I'm in it and there's a lot of huge companies 10:18 that started it in somebody's garage. 10:20 You gotta start somewhere. 10:22 Yeah, a lot of, you know, the big CEOs are, 10:26 you know, famous people 10:27 that we know started out in garage. 10:29 And so overtime, I just wanted to do shirts, 10:34 and I pretty much quit the corporate world. 10:41 There was a point where I was thinking 10:43 the more I worked for this company, 10:45 I'm making the company grow, 10:47 I'm making the company expand. 10:51 What am I doing for God's kingdom? 10:53 Hmm, yes. 10:54 You know like it's... 10:55 I am doing the best for the company, 10:57 like I'm making this company like spread out 10:59 and everybody gets to know 11:01 about their products and services, right? 11:02 But what about God's product and services? 11:04 Amen. 11:05 Right back. 11:07 Yeah, you want to build the kingdom. 11:08 You saw the bigger picture. 11:09 Yeah, and so that's when I said, 11:12 "You know I want to do something bigger," 11:14 and so I combined 11:18 what I've always been doing and noticed that, 11:20 you know, I can put messages on t-shirts 11:23 not just like regular verses, 11:24 that's cool, but are especially Adventist message. 11:28 Yes, absolutely. It makes a difference. 11:30 Now we not only have some of your shirts here 11:34 but we have some pictures that we want to take a look at, 11:37 and as we look at these pictures, 11:38 just give us, tell us briefly what each shirt 11:40 'cause there're some that has some writing 11:42 that I don't understand. 11:44 That's fine. Yeah. 11:45 So this one is one of my newest design, 11:47 it's Called To Serve, 11:49 which is our calling pretty much 11:51 we're called to serve worldwide. 11:53 And this is a big hit with missionaries 11:56 and those who want to do community service, 11:58 they love this shirt. 11:59 And it comes in variety of colors 12:01 and it's a popular one. 12:02 This one is obviously for especially 12:04 the Adventist Christians. 12:06 We celebrate the Lord Sabbath, 12:09 which is Saturday, the Seventh day, 12:11 and that hasn't changed and when we celebrate it, 12:15 we're happy, so... 12:16 Since Genesis 2:2, I bought that shirt 12:18 but that was the first shirt that I bought from you. 12:20 Awesome. Yeah, Since Genesis 2:2. 12:22 And this... 12:24 This is... I need a translator for this. 12:25 You can read this. I can't get that one. 12:28 So the intension of this shirt 12:30 is people are curious like what does that mean. 12:33 Yes. 12:34 And when they look closely, 12:36 I said, "Well, it's actually John 3:16." 12:38 Do you know what that verse says? 12:40 Hmm, yeah. 12:41 That's a conversation's thought. 12:43 So this is available in Korean, in Chinese, and in Japanese. 12:47 There you go, that's the Korean one. 12:48 Nice. 12:49 Yeah, so that one, people are curious, 12:51 "Oh, that's cool, that's charactered," 12:53 but like, you know, 12:54 there's elements of Jesus in there, too, 12:56 you know, the Thorn and the Nails. 12:58 Then they see the verse and go research it in the Bible. 13:00 Yeah, exactly. Smart. 13:01 I like it. It's a conversation's thought. 13:02 And this one, well, 'cause I am mainly vegetarian, 13:06 part-time vegan and, you know, we've power by tofu. 13:11 It looks like a strong block of tofu. 13:13 And Adventist, we're known to be the third healthiest, 13:18 longest, living people 13:19 according to National Geographic 13:21 that, you know, we live longer 'cause of our health. 13:24 And the last one is the timeline 13:27 of the 2,300 days Prophecy. 13:30 When you study Daniel, 13:31 it's a whole expansion of different things 13:33 and that went on the t-shirt, the whole thing. 13:36 Nice, nice. 13:38 And this one is my best seller and everyone loves it 13:41 'cause it's a Prophecy of Daniel, 13:43 it's what I started with, it's why I love Prophecy. 13:46 And it's what you have on today. 13:48 Yes, exactly. 13:50 Yeah. True. 13:51 And there was, what is this one? 13:55 Oh, yes, the sanctuary, 13:57 you know, the whole sanctuary message 14:00 on a t-shirt like who thought of that. 14:01 Well... 14:03 So checking all the reductions that we all know, 14:08 we've read about it, we hear about it, 14:11 and now you get to see it visually. 14:13 Yes. On a picture. 14:15 Yes, and it creates that conversation. 14:17 And this one is my newest one. 14:20 It's just a simple message 14:21 "Saturday is still God's Sabbath." 14:22 Okay. 14:24 Since Genesis 2:2, 14:26 established then hasn't changed, 14:28 and it still be kept in heaven, 14:30 there is nowhere in the Bible that says "We've changed, 14:33 God's changed the Sabbath from Saturday to another day." 14:36 Absolutely. Yeah, still Sabbath. 14:37 Absolutely, now, we recognize that both those faces, 14:41 but we recognized who you're with. 14:43 Tell us about that. Doug Batchelor. 14:44 Yes, I finally get to met him, 14:47 and I gave him one of the shirts 14:48 and told him why I have learnt so much from him. 14:51 Mm-hm. Amazing Facts Ministry. 14:53 Mm-hm. 14:54 And so it was just as fascinating and to, 14:56 I was able to give and share with him the testimony 14:59 and somehow he made an influence in my life. 15:03 Wonderful, wonderful. 15:05 Now we also have this right here, 15:09 which is a license plate cover, 15:11 and it says, "The Seventh Day Is Still God's Sabbath." 15:16 Now, I have this on my car right now 15:18 and I can tell you 15:20 that it actually started some conversations like... 15:23 Awesome. 15:24 I've I had some conversation with people on so 15:26 what's the Seventh day? 15:28 And... 15:29 You know, where do you find that? 15:31 So this has come in handy for a ministry too. 15:36 Yeah, I made that 15:38 because you think about you're in traffic... 15:41 Thousands of people, 15:42 they're watching, they're reading, 15:44 and why not, plant a seed in their mind, 15:46 you know, make them curious. 15:48 Absolutely, so let me ask you this question. 15:51 Is it just you doing the shirt? 15:54 I mean is it just you running SDA Shirts and Adventist Hub, 15:59 and we didn't even get into Adventist Hub yet, 16:01 but we're gonna talk about that. 16:03 But is it just you? 16:04 I'm a business card that says manager. 16:07 Okay. 16:08 'Cause the owner is God. 16:09 Amen, Amen. 16:11 So yeah, at the moment, it's just me, 16:14 I've always just tried to keep my hands in everything... 16:18 And make sure I have control of things, 16:20 but I guess I eventually need help in that, 16:24 thanks to my mom and dad, 16:25 sometime, they come on and help. 16:26 Oh, nice, nice. 16:28 Now, are you a member of ASI? 16:30 Yes, I am. 16:31 You are? Yes, ASI member. 16:33 Okay, wonderful. 16:34 And tell us about Adventist Hub. 16:36 What is Adventist Hub? 16:38 Adventist Hub, I'm excited. 16:41 Pretty sure it's all things Adventists in one place, 16:45 all things SDA like. 16:47 Over there, you could find the latest news. 16:48 Mm-hm. 16:49 There are latest events coming up, 16:51 different ministries, 16:53 all kind of good Christian music 16:56 that are from Adventists singers, 16:59 just a research website, 17:00 like a Yellow Pages for Adventists. 17:01 Okay. 17:03 I've been working on the site, 17:04 just here and there when I'm able to, 17:06 but I always wanted to have a resource, directory, 17:10 to connect everything in one place, 17:13 and so that would've helped me at the early times 17:16 when I have just became Adventist, 17:18 that was how I could've used them back then. 17:20 Absolutely, it's like a one-stab sharp. 17:23 You've 3ABN, you've Dare to Dream on there, 17:26 you have LLBN and HOPE channel, you have all those channels, 17:29 everything on there. 17:30 You can watch TV. 17:31 Score and everything. 17:33 You can watch this TV on that website. 17:34 Wow. 17:35 In fact, I'm also putting live stream on Saturdays, 17:37 where you can watch the Church on the website, too. 17:41 Nice, nice, nice. 17:43 And so what's next for you? 17:46 I mean wherever God leads. 17:48 Mm-hm. 17:49 You know, I'm doing this by faith. 17:52 It's... 17:53 I can't do this without Him. Let's put it that way, right? 17:55 Absolutely. 17:56 Philippians says, you know, 17:58 "I can do all things through Christ 17:59 who strengthens me," and He is what strengthens me, 18:02 like to run several businesses at one time. 18:04 Mm-hm. 18:05 And I give glory to him in everything. 18:09 So what's next for? 18:11 As the shirts is I hope it could spread out, 18:14 everybody could see it 18:15 and learn about the Sabbath truth. 18:17 And eventually, one day, 18:18 I want to meet everyone in heaven 18:21 that has been influenced by these t-shirts 18:23 and somehow connected to a faith. 18:25 And I guess that's where it goes 18:27 and pretty much, it's how, 18:32 I got to keep going kind of hustle. 18:33 Yeah. Absolutely, absolutely. 18:36 Now, how do people get in touch with you? 18:38 Now, it they want a custom shirt, 18:40 how can they get in touch with you? 18:42 Well, it's a very cool website, 18:44 there is a website called SDAshirst.com, right there. 18:48 And so, of course, right there, 18:51 that's where you find these cool shirts, 18:52 but also I'm working, you know, 18:55 I can do custom t-shirts on the side, 18:57 been able to print with several ministries 18:58 in the past, and churches, and stuff like that. 19:01 So yeah, just go there, 19:02 fill out the form, and get a call. 19:05 Nice. Nice. 19:06 And what advice would you have for the young person out there 19:10 that is watching this program and is inspired 19:14 and wants to start something in ministry? 19:19 Well, see, everything you do is a ministry, 19:23 and how you connect it together, 19:25 then it become the part of your ministry, 19:27 and who you invest time and people with. 19:29 If you are someone who has the entrepreneurial spirit, 19:34 go for it, go find something you're really passionate about, 19:37 your talents. 19:38 God has given us talents, 19:40 and He wants us to maximize and use it. 19:41 And only recent few years 19:44 that I got there like, I decided, 19:46 'cause I want to do everything, but God says, 19:48 "You know, you're a graphic guy, 19:50 I gave you talents for graphics," 19:52 and so I'm using the most of that. 19:54 For young person, pursue it, learn from it, 19:57 you can learn so much now a days, 19:59 and it's all free as long as you put the time into it, 20:02 you got to grain you want to wake up 20:04 and just keep going at it. 20:07 I would say that the way how internet works right now... 20:13 Mm-hm. 20:14 That's somewhere you want to be involved with. 20:16 Really, so now is the time. 20:17 Yeah, because I don't really have a storefront. 20:20 I don't really want that, I really... 20:22 E-commerce is the way to go in my opinion. 20:24 Mm-hm. You know I'm just saying. 20:26 Online stores is a nicer platform 20:27 to do the most 20:28 with the littlest time that you have, 20:30 that's why I'm able to have a lot of things going on, 20:33 but I don't have a lot of employees, 20:34 sort of whatever. 20:36 Yes. 20:37 So without giving us trade secrets, 20:40 if you will, 20:42 give us a little bit of insight into the process, 20:45 like what goes in, 20:46 and give us a little bit of the behind the scenes. 20:49 Behind the scenes. Yeah. 20:50 Well, I wake up in my pajamas 20:54 and sometime I come to work to noon. 20:57 But I'm working from home, 20:59 that's the beauty of e-commerce and online 21:02 'cause I worked everything on my laptop. 21:04 I would say 70% of my time are laptop time 21:06 really production, 21:08 I dedicate day to do, 21:10 everything as much as I can and want... 21:11 Mm-hm. 21:13 And just marketing, just you know. 21:17 What percentage do you think is, 21:18 would you say is, marketing? 21:20 At the moment, I could improve in that, 21:24 but I believe I need to improve a lot 21:26 like maybe 60% of our time should be marketing, 21:29 that's what I learnt in business school, 21:31 so that should be something. 21:32 Wow, 60 to 70%. 21:34 Yeah. Okay. 21:35 Yeah, it's crazy but that's where I need to be, 21:39 so that you get out there. 21:41 Wonderful, and what stories do you have for us 21:43 where you've sold somebody a shirt 21:45 or someone's seen your shirt and has come up to you 21:48 and wanted to talk and find out more about Christ? 21:52 Cool, there is tons of testimonies I get, 21:55 people with their words very simple. 21:58 In fact, before SDA Shirts, I ran another, 22:02 you know, t-shirt company 22:04 that has nothing to do with Christian, 22:06 but they are funny, they're good humor. 22:07 And each one I give a glow track, 22:09 I don't know if you know that. 22:10 Yeah, it's a portable glow track... 22:12 Okay. 22:13 Given to strangers, and they contacted me, 22:16 they're like blessed by it, and stuff like that. 22:18 And that's where I want to encourage people, 22:19 whatever work, line of work you're doing, 22:22 how can you emphasize a ministry path to your work. 22:24 Mm-hm. 22:26 So these were strangers 22:27 who bought a funny shirt in Australia, 22:29 in France, in different countries... 22:31 Mm-hm. 22:32 And I give a glow track 22:33 shipping it all the way over there 22:35 with their t-shirt. 22:36 And that was tasteful humor. Yeah. 22:37 It was a... 22:39 Oh, yeah. No. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah. 22:40 No, no. Okay. 22:42 I just wanted to clarify that for our viewers so they know, 22:44 so it was tasteful humor 22:45 and you provided them with a glow track 22:47 and that gave them information that they needed. 22:50 Yeah. 22:51 And for SDA Shirts, when that started, 22:55 there's just people who are not Christian, 22:58 they saw the shirt, they're like, "Hey, brother, 23:00 I'm studying about Daniel 23:02 and I'm kinda confused about the last part, you know." 23:04 And conversation started, leads to a Bible study, 23:08 leads to maybe a Baptism, 23:10 and leads to other people engaging them. 23:12 So just one t-shirt read and a... 23:19 A seed is planted. A seed is planted. 23:21 There you go. In their mind. 23:22 Yeah. Uh-huh. 23:24 Wonderful, now what do your friends think, 23:26 like and I know your friends had to see you 23:28 constantly working? 23:30 I remember going to GYC Southwest, 23:34 and I did see on your laptop, 23:36 just plug-in away, just plug-in away 23:38 on your laptop. 23:39 What are your friends think when they see you busy? 23:42 Are they inspired, 23:43 are they motivated to get up and do something? 23:45 I hope to be inspirational, 23:48 I mean, I'm just doing what I do, 23:50 the thing that's always, I got to hustle, you know like. 23:53 Yeah. 23:54 Got to hustle, got a grain, and I work hard 23:57 because I didn't come to, 23:59 my family, we didn't come here rich, 24:01 we came poor, my dad worked two jobs, 24:04 and even throughout the nights. 24:05 And like I feel in life now 24:08 where it's my turn to give back. 24:11 Yes. You know what I'm saying? 24:12 Yeah. 24:13 He sacrificed a lot 24:15 and pretty much like gave a lot of time off 24:20 so that I could have a better life. 24:21 Yeah. 24:22 And in fact, he'd never went to watch a movie 24:25 or do some fun activity 24:26 'cause he's always working. 24:28 Wow. 24:29 Yeah, so that's something that I want to give back 24:34 for the time he had dedicated, you know. 24:36 So yes, you can see me working on my laptop 24:39 because I got to keep going, 24:41 you know, as long as I have energy, 24:43 as long as I'm still focused on the mission, 24:48 I got to spread it out 24:49 and keep going, keep working hard. 24:51 Absolutely. 24:52 Work hard but, you know, stay humble. 24:53 Absolutely, and it's always interesting 24:56 to hear the story behind 24:59 how a ministry or a company got started, 25:03 because often times, 25:04 you just see the finished product. 25:05 You've no idea where it came from, 25:07 what went into creating it, what's the story behind it. 25:12 So that's always exciting, 25:14 and I really love the fact 25:16 that you're allowing God to use you 25:18 and to spread the Gospel via the shirts, you know, 25:23 it creates so much conversation. 25:26 One thing I didn't add 25:27 or did I add, I don't know but... 25:31 Just by the shirts alone like they last very long. 25:37 Mm-hm. 25:38 So a lot of you get to see it in the conversations' thought. 25:41 Let me see one of those, you have, yes, 25:43 this is the shirt that you have on. 25:46 Yeah, if you like this one, too. 25:48 Yeah, that's nice. 25:50 I need to get, I have to get Tiffany some more shirts. 25:54 Oh, yeah, definitely. 25:55 It feels like a great quality. 25:57 Yeah, I have choose, you can see here, 26:01 I choose like a softer fabric, 26:03 it's not heavy kind or anything so that, 26:06 it's just softer, nicer feeling, 26:07 it's something I like to wear. 26:08 Right, so... 26:10 Uh-huh. 26:11 Instead of just wearing the regular stuff, 26:13 I like the softer and comfortable shirts, 26:15 those high-quality stuff. 26:16 Now, what about shrinkage? 26:18 Like when you wash it, does it shrink? 26:20 Or I mean what is the... 26:21 1.89%, does that matter? 26:24 No, not in this case. 26:27 Shrink a little bit, but not so much. 26:29 Wow, okay. 26:30 Yeah, so it's just, what I'm doing right now, 26:33 this is the chapter 26:35 that God has let in my life so far. 26:37 Praise Lord, and you took some time off work, 26:40 like when you were working, you took how many months off? 26:43 I took three months off, 26:47 pretty much out of work in the last three months 26:49 to research and redefine the company, 26:53 redefine the business. 26:54 And it paid off, meaning not money wise, 27:01 it paid off in terms of how I conduct the business, 27:03 things are better quality, 27:05 things are, the philosophy is different. 27:07 Mm-hm. And that's been really awesome. 27:09 Sometimes you got to do that with any industry. 27:11 Absolutely. 27:13 so what did people say like 27:14 when you were taking off three to four months? 27:17 They're like, "You are crazy, 27:18 you're like, you know, how you're gonna get work? 27:19 Are you paying the bills?" 27:21 Or like, you know, and stuff like that. 27:25 Yeah, sometimes, I was like, 27:27 "Wow, I should really get back to work." 27:29 But sometime research and development 27:32 in any business, 27:33 you got to step back and check out 27:37 and how to make it more efficient, 27:38 I learned so much about my industry 27:40 that I didn't know before. 27:41 Yeah. 27:42 'Cause I was just over busy 27:44 and couldn't have time to dedicate. 27:45 So that's why I shut of everything. 27:46 Absolutely, I can definitely understand that. 27:48 Well, thank you so much for being with us, 27:50 and thank you for joining us. 27:52 Well, we have reached the end of another program. 27:54 Join us next time and remember, 27:56 it just wouldn't be the same without you. |
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