Stay tuned to meet a millennial business entrepreneur, 00:00:01.36\00:00:03.63 who's using his talents to glorify God. 00:00:03.67\00:00:05.93 My name is Jason Bradley, 00:00:05.97\00:00:07.44 and you're watching Urban Report. 00:00:07.47\00:00:09.70 Hello, and welcome to Urban Report. 00:00:34.10\00:00:36.06 My guest today is Vuong Doan, 00:00:36.10\00:00:38.30 and he is determined to spread the gospel 00:00:38.33\00:00:40.27 in a very unique way. 00:00:40.30\00:00:41.90 Welcome to Urban Report Vuong. 00:00:41.94\00:00:43.27 Hey, Jason, good to be here. 00:00:43.30\00:00:44.97 Yes, man. 00:00:45.01\00:00:46.34 So there's so much stuff 00:00:46.37\00:00:48.14 that we want to get into in this particular program, 00:00:48.18\00:00:50.91 but let's take a look at your background. 00:00:50.95\00:00:52.41 Sure. 00:00:52.45\00:00:53.78 Where did you grow up? 00:00:53.82\00:00:55.15 And were you always Adventist? 00:00:55.18\00:00:58.59 No, I grew... 00:00:58.62\00:01:00.76 I was born in Vietnam, South Vietnam. 00:01:00.79\00:01:03.06 So I grew up there, and I came to America in 1994. 00:01:03.09\00:01:07.76 So I've been here for a while 00:01:07.80\00:01:09.13 and I pretty much came with my family and everything. 00:01:09.16\00:01:12.00 So I kinda I think I'm more Americanized now. 00:01:12.03\00:01:14.30 Okay. 00:01:14.34\00:01:15.67 Then, you know, like, 00:01:15.70\00:01:17.04 but I can still speak Vietnamese 00:01:17.07\00:01:18.41 and stuff like that. 00:01:18.44\00:01:19.77 Wow. 00:01:19.81\00:01:21.14 Just it takes me a while to write and stuff, 00:01:21.18\00:01:22.51 but born there, I grew up in Southern California. 00:01:22.54\00:01:26.68 Okay. That's where my heart is. 00:01:26.72\00:01:28.32 That's why I love California. 00:01:28.35\00:01:30.35 Yeah. 00:01:30.39\00:01:31.82 And currently, I am in Houston, 00:01:31.85\00:01:33.46 so that's why I'm saying I love California. 00:01:33.49\00:01:35.56 Okay. 00:01:35.59\00:01:37.73 Family they... 00:01:37.76\00:01:39.29 We grew up as... 00:01:39.33\00:01:41.16 The whole family is of... 00:01:41.20\00:01:42.53 Our religion is Buddhism. 00:01:42.56\00:01:43.90 Okay. Yeah. 00:01:43.93\00:01:45.27 Okay. 00:01:45.30\00:01:46.63 And but you're an Adventist now? 00:01:46.67\00:01:48.00 I'm Adventist now, praise God. 00:01:48.04\00:01:49.37 So we need to get into how all that came about 00:01:49.40\00:01:53.34 and the dynamic in the family like 00:01:53.38\00:01:56.14 what is it like being Adventist in a family 00:01:56.18\00:01:59.71 whose primarily Buddhist. 00:01:59.75\00:02:01.75 Oh, totally. 00:02:01.78\00:02:03.65 That's, you know, it wasn't easy obviously, 00:02:03.69\00:02:07.59 but for me, after high school, 00:02:07.62\00:02:13.13 I guess you get to the age 00:02:13.16\00:02:14.50 where you kinda feel like you know everything, 00:02:14.53\00:02:16.93 you know, you're on your own. 00:02:16.97\00:02:18.30 You getting to college and stuff and... 00:02:18.33\00:02:20.07 At the same time, 00:02:20.10\00:02:21.44 it's when you question life I guess, 00:02:21.47\00:02:24.11 you know, where did I come from, 00:02:24.14\00:02:26.07 where am I going, 00:02:26.11\00:02:27.48 and what's the meaning of life and stuff. 00:02:27.51\00:02:29.54 And I've always liked Prophecies. 00:02:29.58\00:02:32.78 Okay. 00:02:32.81\00:02:34.15 Yeah, and so there was a documentary 00:02:34.18\00:02:38.32 with Nostradamus, 00:02:38.35\00:02:40.06 where he predicted this king will fall 00:02:40.09\00:02:42.22 or this event will happen, 00:02:42.26\00:02:43.86 and I was blown, I was fascinated. 00:02:43.89\00:02:46.29 These things he said it 00:02:46.33\00:02:47.66 and it happens like years later. 00:02:47.70\00:02:49.26 But the thing is those, my friend told me, 00:02:49.30\00:02:53.20 well, he is only 80% correct, 00:02:53.23\00:02:56.40 there's something that's 100% correct, 00:02:56.44\00:02:58.37 and it's Prophecy, 00:02:58.41\00:02:59.74 and I was curious about it, too. 00:02:59.77\00:03:01.64 Mm-hm. Yeah. 00:03:01.68\00:03:03.01 And, you know, if it's only 80% then it's not correct. 00:03:03.04\00:03:05.51 That's like okay, 00:03:05.55\00:03:06.92 like how the devil likes to do it, right? 00:03:06.95\00:03:09.75 He might throw 99% truth 00:03:09.78\00:03:12.92 but he'll put that 1% lie in there 00:03:12.95\00:03:16.12 and that makes it a little it's just not truth. 00:03:16.16\00:03:18.39 Hoping to get back. 00:03:18.43\00:03:19.89 Yeah, it's like would you drink... 00:03:19.93\00:03:22.16 I've heard this before, 00:03:22.20\00:03:24.17 would you take a glass of juice 00:03:24.20\00:03:26.94 that is 99% pure and, say, 1% poisonous. 00:03:26.97\00:03:32.07 Oh, no. Absolutely not. 00:03:32.11\00:03:33.78 Totally not, no. Absolutely not. 00:03:33.81\00:03:35.78 Yeah, so at that time, I questioned... 00:03:35.81\00:03:40.35 Actually, I studied, 00:03:40.38\00:03:41.95 tried to study every religion that's out there, you know. 00:03:41.98\00:03:45.29 Buddhism have fascinating story, 00:03:45.32\00:03:47.52 I liked the story and the philosophy 00:03:47.56\00:03:50.23 but certain thing didn't make sense, 00:03:50.26\00:03:51.86 certain thing didn't get answered. 00:03:51.89\00:03:53.73 So I looked into Islam stuff, I looked into Judaism, Hindu, 00:03:53.76\00:03:59.33 and Taoism, and even Christianity 00:03:59.37\00:04:02.74 and study a little bit each of the histories. 00:04:02.77\00:04:06.78 They all have fascinating stories 00:04:06.81\00:04:08.51 and everything. 00:04:08.54\00:04:09.88 Mm-hm. 00:04:09.91\00:04:11.25 And even in Christendom, each one... 00:04:11.28\00:04:13.42 That's where I was confused 'cause there's Catholic, 00:04:13.45\00:04:15.95 there's all these other Christians, 00:04:15.98\00:04:17.62 and then luckily my best friend, 00:04:17.65\00:04:21.12 he was an Adventist. 00:04:21.16\00:04:23.06 I was like "Who? 00:04:23.09\00:04:24.43 What? What? 00:04:24.46\00:04:25.89 Are you even a Christian? 00:04:25.93\00:04:27.26 What is Adventist, you know?" 00:04:27.30\00:04:28.63 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. 00:04:28.66\00:04:30.00 But he said no, no, no, Adventist Christian. 00:04:30.03\00:04:32.17 I said okay. 00:04:32.20\00:04:33.54 So they're different compared to all the Christians 00:04:33.57\00:04:37.04 I have met and stuff like that. 00:04:37.07\00:04:39.91 I noticed, you know, he said, 00:04:39.94\00:04:41.28 "Hey, come to church, check it out." 00:04:41.31\00:04:43.04 Luckily, he's my best friend, 00:04:43.08\00:04:46.15 the church is like down the street, 00:04:46.18\00:04:48.92 and, you know, we were both learning, 00:04:48.95\00:04:51.05 you know, and those were I believe, 00:04:51.09\00:04:53.66 You know, God just put those things together. 00:04:53.69\00:04:55.56 Absolutely, that's definitely divined providence, 00:04:55.59\00:04:57.69 and it sounds like you were hungry, 00:04:57.73\00:04:59.43 you were searching for answers 00:04:59.46\00:05:00.80 because you were brought up Buddhist, 00:05:00.83\00:05:03.03 but you weren't finding the answers that you need. 00:05:03.06\00:05:05.87 It didn't satisfy, 00:05:05.90\00:05:07.24 like the monks I've have spoken to, 00:05:07.27\00:05:09.57 they kinda did gave me a vague answer. 00:05:09.60\00:05:12.41 In fact, like everybody gave me a different answer like, 00:05:12.44\00:05:15.28 "Okay, you know, what happens when you die? 00:05:15.31\00:05:17.61 Or where did human came from? 00:05:17.65\00:05:19.58 And how does reincarnation work?" 00:05:19.61\00:05:21.75 Like they have concepts 00:05:21.78\00:05:23.82 but I didn't hear like about peace, 00:05:23.85\00:05:28.19 I didn't hear about love more, 00:05:28.22\00:05:29.96 I've heard about just how to live life 00:05:29.99\00:05:33.70 and try to do your best, 00:05:33.73\00:05:35.40 and like, you know, you are on your own basically, 00:05:35.43\00:05:37.50 that's what I felt like. 00:05:37.53\00:05:38.87 Whereas in the Christianity world, 00:05:38.90\00:05:42.50 you're on your own 00:05:42.54\00:05:43.87 but there's someone always that has your back 00:05:43.91\00:05:47.14 'cause sometimes 00:05:47.18\00:05:48.51 you can't just do everything on your own, right? 00:05:48.54\00:05:50.68 Absolutely not. 00:05:50.71\00:05:53.08 Yeah, we definitely need the power of Christ. 00:05:53.11\00:05:55.42 Exactly. 00:05:55.45\00:05:56.79 Working in us, on us, and through us. 00:05:56.82\00:05:58.29 Yeah, so he brought me to Church, 00:05:58.32\00:06:01.89 and the dashboard on his car was Amazing Facts study guide. 00:06:01.92\00:06:08.76 And the topic was about the Second Coming of Christ 00:06:08.80\00:06:14.97 and that one has the prophecy, the red moon's gonna happen, 00:06:15.00\00:06:18.87 or it happened already, right? 00:06:18.91\00:06:21.74 There's a prophecy where the stars 00:06:21.78\00:06:23.31 were so bright in the night 00:06:23.35\00:06:24.68 where you could read the newspaper, 00:06:24.71\00:06:26.05 the stars were falling, 00:06:26.08\00:06:27.42 just several things that came together 00:06:27.45\00:06:30.19 in the past 100%. 00:06:30.22\00:06:34.19 From Amazing Facts. 00:06:34.22\00:06:35.56 From Amazing Facts Bible study guide. 00:06:35.59\00:06:37.29 But that was lesson seven, so I was like there's more? 00:06:37.33\00:06:40.43 Yeah, yeah. 00:06:40.46\00:06:41.80 Yeah, so long story short, 00:06:41.83\00:06:44.13 I studied that on my own really fast, 00:06:44.17\00:06:48.00 even my best friend was like, 00:06:48.04\00:06:49.37 "Hey, you need to slow down. 00:06:49.40\00:06:50.74 These doctrines, these topics, 00:06:50.77\00:06:53.54 you know, they're heavy topics," 00:06:53.58\00:06:55.68 but I was eating it up. 00:06:55.71\00:06:57.05 I understood it, 00:06:57.08\00:06:58.41 there's nothing I was confused about it 00:06:58.45\00:06:59.78 like I went through a few... 00:06:59.81\00:07:01.88 Within a few weeks 00:07:01.92\00:07:03.25 even the advanced Amazing Facts Bible study guides. 00:07:03.28\00:07:06.35 And I learnt a lot, I learnt a lot more from those than, 00:07:06.39\00:07:11.16 you know, few people because it was fascinating. 00:07:11.19\00:07:13.96 Yeah, and you were hungry, 00:07:14.00\00:07:16.00 you knew that there was something more 00:07:16.03\00:07:17.57 that you needed, something that you're missing, 00:07:17.60\00:07:19.53 and that was Christ. 00:07:19.57\00:07:20.90 Exactly. That was Christ. 00:07:20.94\00:07:22.27 Now I have been extremely impressed 00:07:22.30\00:07:25.04 with the ministry in business that God has blessed you with. 00:07:25.07\00:07:31.85 Tell us a little bit about that. 00:07:31.88\00:07:33.98 You have several things going on, Vuong, I always... 00:07:34.02\00:07:37.49 I always tease you when I see you 00:07:37.52\00:07:39.49 about all the different things you have going on, 00:07:39.52\00:07:42.02 but tell us, it's really inspiring. 00:07:42.06\00:07:43.73 Tell us about 00:07:43.76\00:07:45.09 some of the shirts and the websites. 00:07:45.13\00:07:47.50 Tell us about that. Yeah, totally. 00:07:47.53\00:07:49.40 So I guess I started when... 00:07:49.43\00:07:52.63 How I started and basically, I think, 00:07:52.67\00:07:59.01 I always wanted to be an entrepreneur, 00:07:59.04\00:08:00.78 like I always wanted to work on my own, 00:08:00.81\00:08:02.84 be on my own, 'cause I did several office jobs, 00:08:02.88\00:08:06.01 I worked for companies, 00:08:06.05\00:08:07.38 and I did like things but a lot of times, 00:08:07.42\00:08:09.68 it's just routine and I like changes, 00:08:09.72\00:08:12.42 I like to do different task and everything. 00:08:12.45\00:08:15.36 I can't be in the office all day, 00:08:15.39\00:08:17.03 and so from that like I started to learn 00:08:17.06\00:08:22.90 about how to print t-shirts. 00:08:22.93\00:08:26.60 Wait, let me go back. 00:08:26.63\00:08:27.97 Okay. 00:08:28.00\00:08:29.34 Before I was baptized in high school, 00:08:29.37\00:08:34.91 I was with like a dancing screw so we did, you know, 00:08:34.94\00:08:37.68 dancing and stuff like that, and we needed t-shirts. 00:08:37.71\00:08:40.72 Okay. Yeah. There you go. 00:08:40.75\00:08:42.72 Okay. 00:08:42.75\00:08:44.09 And then we need it quick, too, so just we, 00:08:44.12\00:08:47.46 we kinda sprayed paint in different things 00:08:47.49\00:08:49.02 but that's not how you do shirts. 00:08:49.06\00:08:51.19 But I like creativity, I like art too, 00:08:51.23\00:08:55.46 so that just makes sense to me like drawing and graphic stuff. 00:08:55.50\00:09:00.17 Okay. 00:09:00.20\00:09:01.54 And then put that into a business 00:09:01.57\00:09:03.34 and, you know, you get printed t-shirts. 00:09:03.37\00:09:04.81 So from that concept basically, 00:09:04.84\00:09:08.74 I started my own 00:09:08.78\00:09:12.28 t-shirt custom printing, you know, company. 00:09:12.31\00:09:15.85 Which is called what? 00:09:15.88\00:09:17.59 Well, the first one is called the Shirt Dudes, 00:09:17.62\00:09:21.36 it's another one I worked on, 00:09:21.39\00:09:22.72 and then eventually leads to SDA Shirts right now 00:09:22.76\00:09:25.36 where I am doing also. 00:09:25.39\00:09:26.73 I'm still running both 00:09:26.76\00:09:28.10 and then I'm starting new clothing line, too. 00:09:28.13\00:09:30.00 Wow. 00:09:30.03\00:09:31.37 And I'm just... 00:09:31.40\00:09:32.73 I like shirts. 00:09:32.77\00:09:34.10 I see. 00:09:34.14\00:09:35.64 I have a lot of shirts at home. 00:09:35.67\00:09:37.21 Yeah. I would've imagined so. 00:09:37.24\00:09:38.57 My closet is like, you know, when you go somewhere 00:09:38.61\00:09:41.44 and they giveaway shirts, I say, 00:09:41.48\00:09:42.81 "Well, I have in home, there's a lot." 00:09:42.84\00:09:44.95 Yes, yes, yes. 00:09:44.98\00:09:46.41 So you basically took what you were passionate about 00:09:46.45\00:09:48.95 and you combined both interest, 00:09:48.98\00:09:51.45 your passion with art and creativity and God. 00:09:51.49\00:09:53.46 Art, creativity, 00:09:53.49\00:09:55.76 and then SDA Shirts was born 00:09:55.79\00:09:57.29 because God came into the picture. 00:09:57.33\00:10:00.10 Hmm, nice. 00:10:00.13\00:10:01.86 Before, I was doing custom shirts 00:10:01.90\00:10:03.33 for churches and businesses and schools, 00:10:03.37\00:10:06.27 I started out in my garage. 00:10:06.30\00:10:07.64 Uh-huh. 00:10:07.67\00:10:09.00 Nobody needs to know. 00:10:09.04\00:10:10.37 On the website, it looks like you're a big company 00:10:10.41\00:10:11.74 but down to my garage, 00:10:11.77\00:10:13.94 but praise God, you know, I am in a real shop now. 00:10:13.98\00:10:16.21 Yes, I'm in it and there's a lot of huge companies 00:10:16.24\00:10:18.71 that started it in somebody's garage. 00:10:18.75\00:10:20.78 You gotta start somewhere. 00:10:20.82\00:10:22.15 Yeah, a lot of, you know, the big CEOs are, 00:10:22.18\00:10:26.12 you know, famous people 00:10:26.15\00:10:27.49 that we know started out in garage. 00:10:27.52\00:10:29.29 And so overtime, I just wanted to do shirts, 00:10:29.32\00:10:34.86 and I pretty much quit the corporate world. 00:10:34.90\00:10:40.97 There was a point where I was thinking 00:10:41.00\00:10:43.51 the more I worked for this company, 00:10:43.54\00:10:45.71 I'm making the company grow, 00:10:45.74\00:10:47.44 I'm making the company expand. 00:10:47.48\00:10:51.05 What am I doing for God's kingdom? 00:10:51.08\00:10:53.18 Hmm, yes. 00:10:53.21\00:10:54.55 You know like it's... 00:10:54.58\00:10:55.92 I am doing the best for the company, 00:10:55.95\00:10:57.29 like I'm making this company like spread out 00:10:57.32\00:10:59.65 and everybody gets to know 00:10:59.69\00:11:01.02 about their products and services, right? 00:11:01.06\00:11:02.96 But what about God's product and services? 00:11:02.99\00:11:04.33 Amen. 00:11:04.36\00:11:05.69 Right back. 00:11:05.73\00:11:07.06 Yeah, you want to build the kingdom. 00:11:07.10\00:11:08.43 You saw the bigger picture. 00:11:08.46\00:11:09.93 Yeah, and so that's when I said, 00:11:09.96\00:11:12.83 "You know I want to do something bigger," 00:11:12.87\00:11:14.50 and so I combined 00:11:14.54\00:11:17.97 what I've always been doing and noticed that, 00:11:18.01\00:11:20.78 you know, I can put messages on t-shirts 00:11:20.81\00:11:23.14 not just like regular verses, 00:11:23.18\00:11:24.88 that's cool, but are especially Adventist message. 00:11:24.91\00:11:28.55 Yes, absolutely. It makes a difference. 00:11:28.58\00:11:30.72 Now we not only have some of your shirts here 00:11:30.75\00:11:34.42 but we have some pictures that we want to take a look at, 00:11:34.46\00:11:37.03 and as we look at these pictures, 00:11:37.06\00:11:38.49 just give us, tell us briefly what each shirt 00:11:38.53\00:11:40.76 'cause there're some that has some writing 00:11:40.80\00:11:42.70 that I don't understand. 00:11:42.73\00:11:44.20 That's fine. Yeah. 00:11:44.23\00:11:45.57 So this one is one of my newest design, 00:11:45.60\00:11:47.90 it's Called To Serve, 00:11:47.94\00:11:49.90 which is our calling pretty much 00:11:49.94\00:11:51.67 we're called to serve worldwide. 00:11:51.71\00:11:53.34 And this is a big hit with missionaries 00:11:53.38\00:11:56.64 and those who want to do community service, 00:11:56.68\00:11:58.58 they love this shirt. 00:11:58.61\00:11:59.95 And it comes in variety of colors 00:11:59.98\00:12:01.35 and it's a popular one. 00:12:01.38\00:12:02.72 This one is obviously for especially 00:12:02.75\00:12:04.82 the Adventist Christians. 00:12:04.85\00:12:06.82 We celebrate the Lord Sabbath, 00:12:06.86\00:12:09.16 which is Saturday, the Seventh day, 00:12:09.19\00:12:11.06 and that hasn't changed and when we celebrate it, 00:12:11.09\00:12:15.20 we're happy, so... 00:12:15.23\00:12:16.56 Since Genesis 2:2, I bought that shirt 00:12:16.60\00:12:18.37 but that was the first shirt that I bought from you. 00:12:18.40\00:12:20.44 Awesome. Yeah, Since Genesis 2:2. 00:12:20.47\00:12:22.80 And this... 00:12:22.84\00:12:24.17 This is... I need a translator for this. 00:12:24.21\00:12:25.77 You can read this. I can't get that one. 00:12:25.81\00:12:28.38 So the intension of this shirt 00:12:28.41\00:12:30.55 is people are curious like what does that mean. 00:12:30.58\00:12:33.35 Yes. 00:12:33.38\00:12:34.72 And when they look closely, 00:12:34.75\00:12:36.08 I said, "Well, it's actually John 3:16." 00:12:36.12\00:12:38.65 Do you know what that verse says? 00:12:38.69\00:12:40.16 Hmm, yeah. 00:12:40.19\00:12:41.52 That's a conversation's thought. 00:12:41.56\00:12:42.99 So this is available in Korean, in Chinese, and in Japanese. 00:12:43.02\00:12:47.03 There you go, that's the Korean one. 00:12:47.06\00:12:48.40 Nice. 00:12:48.43\00:12:49.76 Yeah, so that one, people are curious, 00:12:49.80\00:12:51.83 "Oh, that's cool, that's charactered," 00:12:51.87\00:12:53.20 but like, you know, 00:12:53.23\00:12:54.57 there's elements of Jesus in there, too, 00:12:54.60\00:12:56.00 you know, the Thorn and the Nails. 00:12:56.04\00:12:58.27 Then they see the verse and go research it in the Bible. 00:12:58.31\00:13:00.08 Yeah, exactly. Smart. 00:13:00.11\00:13:01.44 I like it. It's a conversation's thought. 00:13:01.48\00:13:02.81 And this one, well, 'cause I am mainly vegetarian, 00:13:02.84\00:13:06.38 part-time vegan and, you know, we've power by tofu. 00:13:06.41\00:13:11.25 It looks like a strong block of tofu. 00:13:11.29\00:13:13.76 And Adventist, we're known to be the third healthiest, 00:13:13.79\00:13:18.23 longest, living people 00:13:18.26\00:13:19.59 according to National Geographic 00:13:19.63\00:13:21.66 that, you know, we live longer 'cause of our health. 00:13:21.70\00:13:24.43 And the last one is the timeline 00:13:24.47\00:13:27.87 of the 2,300 days Prophecy. 00:13:27.90\00:13:30.07 When you study Daniel, 00:13:30.11\00:13:31.44 it's a whole expansion of different things 00:13:31.47\00:13:33.64 and that went on the t-shirt, the whole thing. 00:13:33.68\00:13:36.75 Nice, nice. 00:13:36.78\00:13:38.11 And this one is my best seller and everyone loves it 00:13:38.15\00:13:41.72 'cause it's a Prophecy of Daniel, 00:13:41.75\00:13:43.55 it's what I started with, it's why I love Prophecy. 00:13:43.59\00:13:46.72 And it's what you have on today. 00:13:46.76\00:13:48.39 Yes, exactly. 00:13:48.42\00:13:50.43 Yeah. True. 00:13:50.46\00:13:51.79 And there was, what is this one? 00:13:51.83\00:13:55.06 Oh, yes, the sanctuary, 00:13:55.10\00:13:57.80 you know, the whole sanctuary message 00:13:57.83\00:14:00.04 on a t-shirt like who thought of that. 00:14:00.07\00:14:01.60 Well... 00:14:01.64\00:14:03.51 So checking all the reductions that we all know, 00:14:03.54\00:14:08.61 we've read about it, we hear about it, 00:14:08.64\00:14:11.11 and now you get to see it visually. 00:14:11.15\00:14:13.05 Yes. On a picture. 00:14:13.08\00:14:15.08 Yes, and it creates that conversation. 00:14:15.12\00:14:17.49 And this one is my newest one. 00:14:17.52\00:14:20.06 It's just a simple message 00:14:20.09\00:14:21.52 "Saturday is still God's Sabbath." 00:14:21.56\00:14:22.89 Okay. 00:14:22.92\00:14:24.26 Since Genesis 2:2, 00:14:24.29\00:14:25.99 established then hasn't changed, 00:14:26.03\00:14:28.40 and it still be kept in heaven, 00:14:28.43\00:14:29.96 there is nowhere in the Bible that says "We've changed, 00:14:30.00\00:14:33.40 God's changed the Sabbath from Saturday to another day." 00:14:33.44\00:14:36.24 Absolutely. Yeah, still Sabbath. 00:14:36.27\00:14:37.61 Absolutely, now, we recognize that both those faces, 00:14:37.64\00:14:41.21 but we recognized who you're with. 00:14:41.24\00:14:43.31 Tell us about that. Doug Batchelor. 00:14:43.35\00:14:44.68 Yes, I finally get to met him, 00:14:44.71\00:14:47.15 and I gave him one of the shirts 00:14:47.18\00:14:48.52 and told him why I have learnt so much from him. 00:14:48.55\00:14:51.82 Mm-hm. Amazing Facts Ministry. 00:14:51.85\00:14:53.19 Mm-hm. 00:14:53.22\00:14:54.56 And so it was just as fascinating and to, 00:14:54.59\00:14:56.66 I was able to give and share with him the testimony 00:14:56.69\00:14:59.89 and somehow he made an influence in my life. 00:14:59.93\00:15:03.43 Wonderful, wonderful. 00:15:03.47\00:15:05.23 Now we also have this right here, 00:15:05.27\00:15:09.10 which is a license plate cover, 00:15:09.14\00:15:11.81 and it says, "The Seventh Day Is Still God's Sabbath." 00:15:11.84\00:15:16.21 Now, I have this on my car right now 00:15:16.24\00:15:18.81 and I can tell you 00:15:18.85\00:15:20.18 that it actually started some conversations like... 00:15:20.22\00:15:23.35 Awesome. 00:15:23.39\00:15:24.72 I've I had some conversation with people on so 00:15:24.75\00:15:26.65 what's the Seventh day? 00:15:26.69\00:15:28.26 And... 00:15:28.29\00:15:29.62 You know, where do you find that? 00:15:29.66\00:15:31.53 So this has come in handy for a ministry too. 00:15:31.56\00:15:36.77 Yeah, I made that 00:15:36.80\00:15:38.30 because you think about you're in traffic... 00:15:38.33\00:15:41.00 Thousands of people, 00:15:41.04\00:15:42.60 they're watching, they're reading, 00:15:42.64\00:15:44.04 and why not, plant a seed in their mind, 00:15:44.07\00:15:46.84 you know, make them curious. 00:15:46.88\00:15:48.21 Absolutely, so let me ask you this question. 00:15:48.24\00:15:51.38 Is it just you doing the shirt? 00:15:51.41\00:15:54.12 I mean is it just you running SDA Shirts and Adventist Hub, 00:15:54.15\00:15:59.69 and we didn't even get into Adventist Hub yet, 00:15:59.72\00:16:01.72 but we're gonna talk about that. 00:16:01.76\00:16:03.22 But is it just you? 00:16:03.26\00:16:04.89 I'm a business card that says manager. 00:16:04.93\00:16:07.03 Okay. 00:16:07.06\00:16:08.40 'Cause the owner is God. 00:16:08.43\00:16:09.76 Amen, Amen. 00:16:09.80\00:16:11.13 So yeah, at the moment, it's just me, 00:16:11.17\00:16:14.70 I've always just tried to keep my hands in everything... 00:16:14.74\00:16:18.34 And make sure I have control of things, 00:16:18.37\00:16:20.21 but I guess I eventually need help in that, 00:16:20.24\00:16:24.15 thanks to my mom and dad, 00:16:24.18\00:16:25.51 sometime, they come on and help. 00:16:25.55\00:16:26.88 Oh, nice, nice. 00:16:26.92\00:16:28.25 Now, are you a member of ASI? 00:16:28.28\00:16:30.02 Yes, I am. 00:16:30.05\00:16:31.39 You are? Yes, ASI member. 00:16:31.42\00:16:33.22 Okay, wonderful. 00:16:33.25\00:16:34.59 And tell us about Adventist Hub. 00:16:34.62\00:16:36.29 What is Adventist Hub? 00:16:36.32\00:16:38.23 Adventist Hub, I'm excited. 00:16:38.26\00:16:41.93 Pretty sure it's all things Adventists in one place, 00:16:41.96\00:16:45.73 all things SDA like. 00:16:45.77\00:16:47.10 Over there, you could find the latest news. 00:16:47.14\00:16:48.47 Mm-hm. 00:16:48.50\00:16:49.84 There are latest events coming up, 00:16:49.87\00:16:51.81 different ministries, 00:16:51.84\00:16:53.31 all kind of good Christian music 00:16:53.34\00:16:56.04 that are from Adventists singers, 00:16:56.08\00:16:58.98 just a research website, 00:16:59.01\00:17:00.35 like a Yellow Pages for Adventists. 00:17:00.38\00:17:01.72 Okay. 00:17:01.75\00:17:03.08 I've been working on the site, 00:17:03.12\00:17:04.62 just here and there when I'm able to, 00:17:04.65\00:17:06.29 but I always wanted to have a resource, directory, 00:17:06.32\00:17:10.83 to connect everything in one place, 00:17:10.86\00:17:13.19 and so that would've helped me at the early times 00:17:13.23\00:17:16.46 when I have just became Adventist, 00:17:16.50\00:17:18.37 that was how I could've used them back then. 00:17:18.40\00:17:20.57 Absolutely, it's like a one-stab sharp. 00:17:20.60\00:17:23.44 You've 3ABN, you've Dare to Dream on there, 00:17:23.47\00:17:25.97 you have LLBN and HOPE channel, you have all those channels, 00:17:26.01\00:17:28.98 everything on there. 00:17:29.01\00:17:30.35 You can watch TV. 00:17:30.38\00:17:31.71 Score and everything. 00:17:31.75\00:17:33.08 You can watch this TV on that website. 00:17:33.11\00:17:34.45 Wow. 00:17:34.48\00:17:35.82 In fact, I'm also putting live stream on Saturdays, 00:17:35.85\00:17:37.79 where you can watch the Church on the website, too. 00:17:37.82\00:17:41.02 Nice, nice, nice. 00:17:41.06\00:17:43.39 And so what's next for you? 00:17:43.43\00:17:46.46 I mean wherever God leads. 00:17:46.49\00:17:47.96 Mm-hm. 00:17:48.00\00:17:49.46 You know, I'm doing this by faith. 00:17:49.50\00:17:52.33 It's... 00:17:52.37\00:17:53.70 I can't do this without Him. Let's put it that way, right? 00:17:53.74\00:17:55.40 Absolutely. 00:17:55.44\00:17:56.77 Philippians says, you know, 00:17:56.81\00:17:58.14 "I can do all things through Christ 00:17:58.17\00:17:59.51 who strengthens me," and He is what strengthens me, 00:17:59.54\00:18:02.51 like to run several businesses at one time. 00:18:02.54\00:18:04.31 Mm-hm. 00:18:04.35\00:18:05.68 And I give glory to him in everything. 00:18:05.71\00:18:09.92 So what's next for? 00:18:09.95\00:18:11.35 As the shirts is I hope it could spread out, 00:18:11.39\00:18:14.16 everybody could see it 00:18:14.19\00:18:15.52 and learn about the Sabbath truth. 00:18:15.56\00:18:17.39 And eventually, one day, 00:18:17.43\00:18:18.76 I want to meet everyone in heaven 00:18:18.79\00:18:21.30 that has been influenced by these t-shirts 00:18:21.33\00:18:23.67 and somehow connected to a faith. 00:18:23.70\00:18:25.90 And I guess that's where it goes 00:18:25.93\00:18:27.80 and pretty much, it's how, 00:18:27.84\00:18:32.01 I got to keep going kind of hustle. 00:18:32.04\00:18:33.51 Yeah. Absolutely, absolutely. 00:18:33.54\00:18:36.54 Now, how do people get in touch with you? 00:18:36.58\00:18:38.25 Now, it they want a custom shirt, 00:18:38.28\00:18:40.15 how can they get in touch with you? 00:18:40.18\00:18:42.58 Well, it's a very cool website, 00:18:42.62\00:18:44.39 there is a website called SDAshirst.com, right there. 00:18:44.42\00:18:48.96 And so, of course, right there, 00:18:48.99\00:18:51.13 that's where you find these cool shirts, 00:18:51.16\00:18:52.89 but also I'm working, you know, 00:18:52.93\00:18:54.96 I can do custom t-shirts on the side, 00:18:55.00\00:18:57.07 been able to print with several ministries 00:18:57.10\00:18:58.60 in the past, and churches, and stuff like that. 00:18:58.63\00:19:01.04 So yeah, just go there, 00:19:01.07\00:19:02.40 fill out the form, and get a call. 00:19:02.44\00:19:04.97 Nice. Nice. 00:19:05.01\00:19:06.57 And what advice would you have for the young person out there 00:19:06.61\00:19:10.78 that is watching this program and is inspired 00:19:10.81\00:19:14.58 and wants to start something in ministry? 00:19:14.62\00:19:18.99 Well, see, everything you do is a ministry, 00:19:19.02\00:19:22.99 and how you connect it together, 00:19:23.02\00:19:25.86 then it become the part of your ministry, 00:19:25.89\00:19:27.30 and who you invest time and people with. 00:19:27.33\00:19:29.56 If you are someone who has the entrepreneurial spirit, 00:19:29.60\00:19:34.84 go for it, go find something you're really passionate about, 00:19:34.87\00:19:37.41 your talents. 00:19:37.44\00:19:38.77 God has given us talents, 00:19:38.81\00:19:40.14 and He wants us to maximize and use it. 00:19:40.18\00:19:41.94 And only recent few years 00:19:41.98\00:19:44.41 that I got there like, I decided, 00:19:44.45\00:19:46.82 'cause I want to do everything, but God says, 00:19:46.85\00:19:48.55 "You know, you're a graphic guy, 00:19:48.58\00:19:50.22 I gave you talents for graphics," 00:19:50.25\00:19:52.09 and so I'm using the most of that. 00:19:52.12\00:19:54.66 For young person, pursue it, learn from it, 00:19:54.69\00:19:57.43 you can learn so much now a days, 00:19:57.46\00:19:59.39 and it's all free as long as you put the time into it, 00:19:59.43\00:20:02.36 you got to grain you want to wake up 00:20:02.40\00:20:04.33 and just keep going at it. 00:20:04.37\00:20:07.34 I would say that the way how internet works right now... 00:20:07.37\00:20:13.21 Mm-hm. 00:20:13.24\00:20:14.58 That's somewhere you want to be involved with. 00:20:14.61\00:20:16.21 Really, so now is the time. 00:20:16.24\00:20:17.85 Yeah, because I don't really have a storefront. 00:20:17.88\00:20:20.68 I don't really want that, I really... 00:20:20.72\00:20:22.55 E-commerce is the way to go in my opinion. 00:20:22.58\00:20:24.69 Mm-hm. You know I'm just saying. 00:20:24.72\00:20:26.05 Online stores is a nicer platform 00:20:26.09\00:20:27.42 to do the most 00:20:27.46\00:20:28.79 with the littlest time that you have, 00:20:28.82\00:20:30.16 that's why I'm able to have a lot of things going on, 00:20:30.19\00:20:33.26 but I don't have a lot of employees, 00:20:33.29\00:20:34.63 sort of whatever. 00:20:34.66\00:20:36.00 Yes. 00:20:36.03\00:20:37.37 So without giving us trade secrets, 00:20:37.40\00:20:40.60 if you will, 00:20:40.64\00:20:42.10 give us a little bit of insight into the process, 00:20:42.14\00:20:45.04 like what goes in, 00:20:45.07\00:20:46.41 and give us a little bit of the behind the scenes. 00:20:46.44\00:20:49.28 Behind the scenes. Yeah. 00:20:49.31\00:20:50.65 Well, I wake up in my pajamas 00:20:50.68\00:20:54.08 and sometime I come to work to noon. 00:20:54.12\00:20:57.42 But I'm working from home, 00:20:57.45\00:20:59.45 that's the beauty of e-commerce and online 00:20:59.49\00:21:02.19 'cause I worked everything on my laptop. 00:21:02.22\00:21:04.06 I would say 70% of my time are laptop time 00:21:04.09\00:21:06.49 really production, 00:21:06.53\00:21:08.26 I dedicate day to do, 00:21:08.30\00:21:10.50 everything as much as I can and want... 00:21:10.53\00:21:11.90 Mm-hm. 00:21:11.93\00:21:13.27 And just marketing, just you know. 00:21:13.30\00:21:17.01 What percentage do you think is, 00:21:17.04\00:21:18.84 would you say is, marketing? 00:21:18.87\00:21:20.61 At the moment, I could improve in that, 00:21:20.64\00:21:24.11 but I believe I need to improve a lot 00:21:24.15\00:21:26.51 like maybe 60% of our time should be marketing, 00:21:26.55\00:21:29.65 that's what I learnt in business school, 00:21:29.68\00:21:31.12 so that should be something. 00:21:31.15\00:21:32.95 Wow, 60 to 70%. 00:21:32.99\00:21:34.46 Yeah. Okay. 00:21:34.49\00:21:35.82 Yeah, it's crazy but that's where I need to be, 00:21:35.86\00:21:39.53 so that you get out there. 00:21:39.56\00:21:40.96 Wonderful, and what stories do you have for us 00:21:41.00\00:21:43.63 where you've sold somebody a shirt 00:21:43.67\00:21:45.70 or someone's seen your shirt and has come up to you 00:21:45.73\00:21:48.70 and wanted to talk and find out more about Christ? 00:21:48.74\00:21:52.27 Cool, there is tons of testimonies I get, 00:21:52.31\00:21:55.68 people with their words very simple. 00:21:55.71\00:21:58.68 In fact, before SDA Shirts, I ran another, 00:21:58.71\00:22:02.62 you know, t-shirt company 00:22:02.65\00:22:03.99 that has nothing to do with Christian, 00:22:04.02\00:22:06.25 but they are funny, they're good humor. 00:22:06.29\00:22:07.89 And each one I give a glow track, 00:22:07.92\00:22:09.56 I don't know if you know that. 00:22:09.59\00:22:10.96 Yeah, it's a portable glow track... 00:22:10.99\00:22:12.33 Okay. 00:22:12.36\00:22:13.70 Given to strangers, and they contacted me, 00:22:13.73\00:22:16.10 they're like blessed by it, and stuff like that. 00:22:16.13\00:22:18.07 And that's where I want to encourage people, 00:22:18.10\00:22:19.77 whatever work, line of work you're doing, 00:22:19.80\00:22:22.40 how can you emphasize a ministry path to your work. 00:22:22.44\00:22:24.74 Mm-hm. 00:22:24.77\00:22:26.11 So these were strangers 00:22:26.14\00:22:27.48 who bought a funny shirt in Australia, 00:22:27.51\00:22:29.74 in France, in different countries... 00:22:29.78\00:22:31.11 Mm-hm. 00:22:31.15\00:22:32.48 And I give a glow track 00:22:32.51\00:22:33.85 shipping it all the way over there 00:22:33.88\00:22:35.22 with their t-shirt. 00:22:35.25\00:22:36.58 And that was tasteful humor. Yeah. 00:22:36.62\00:22:37.95 It was a... 00:22:37.99\00:22:39.32 Oh, yeah. No. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah. 00:22:39.35\00:22:40.69 No, no. Okay. 00:22:40.72\00:22:42.06 I just wanted to clarify that for our viewers so they know, 00:22:42.09\00:22:44.03 so it was tasteful humor 00:22:44.06\00:22:45.53 and you provided them with a glow track 00:22:45.56\00:22:47.33 and that gave them information that they needed. 00:22:47.36\00:22:50.10 Yeah. 00:22:50.13\00:22:51.47 And for SDA Shirts, when that started, 00:22:51.50\00:22:55.30 there's just people who are not Christian, 00:22:55.34\00:22:58.14 they saw the shirt, they're like, "Hey, brother, 00:22:58.17\00:23:00.64 I'm studying about Daniel 00:23:00.68\00:23:02.01 and I'm kinda confused about the last part, you know." 00:23:02.04\00:23:04.91 And conversation started, leads to a Bible study, 00:23:04.95\00:23:08.08 leads to maybe a Baptism, 00:23:08.12\00:23:10.32 and leads to other people engaging them. 00:23:10.35\00:23:12.85 So just one t-shirt read and a... 00:23:12.89\00:23:19.79 A seed is planted. A seed is planted. 00:23:19.83\00:23:21.16 There you go. In their mind. 00:23:21.20\00:23:22.53 Yeah. Uh-huh. 00:23:22.56\00:23:24.00 Wonderful, now what do your friends think, 00:23:24.03\00:23:26.67 like and I know your friends had to see you 00:23:26.70\00:23:28.74 constantly working? 00:23:28.77\00:23:30.11 I remember going to GYC Southwest, 00:23:30.14\00:23:34.48 and I did see on your laptop, 00:23:34.51\00:23:36.18 just plug-in away, just plug-in away 00:23:36.21\00:23:38.15 on your laptop. 00:23:38.18\00:23:39.51 What are your friends think when they see you busy? 00:23:39.55\00:23:42.25 Are they inspired, 00:23:42.28\00:23:43.62 are they motivated to get up and do something? 00:23:43.65\00:23:45.65 I hope to be inspirational, 00:23:45.69\00:23:48.59 I mean, I'm just doing what I do, 00:23:48.62\00:23:50.93 the thing that's always, I got to hustle, you know like. 00:23:50.96\00:23:53.40 Yeah. 00:23:53.43\00:23:54.76 Got to hustle, got a grain, and I work hard 00:23:54.80\00:23:57.10 because I didn't come to, 00:23:57.13\00:23:59.47 my family, we didn't come here rich, 00:23:59.50\00:24:01.57 we came poor, my dad worked two jobs, 00:24:01.60\00:24:04.17 and even throughout the nights. 00:24:04.21\00:24:05.87 And like I feel in life now 00:24:05.91\00:24:08.04 where it's my turn to give back. 00:24:08.08\00:24:10.98 Yes. You know what I'm saying? 00:24:11.01\00:24:12.35 Yeah. 00:24:12.38\00:24:13.72 He sacrificed a lot 00:24:13.75\00:24:15.25 and pretty much like gave a lot of time off 00:24:15.28\00:24:20.06 so that I could have a better life. 00:24:20.09\00:24:21.42 Yeah. 00:24:21.46\00:24:22.79 And in fact, he'd never went to watch a movie 00:24:22.82\00:24:25.26 or do some fun activity 00:24:25.29\00:24:26.83 'cause he's always working. 00:24:26.86\00:24:28.20 Wow. 00:24:28.23\00:24:29.56 Yeah, so that's something that I want to give back 00:24:29.60\00:24:34.44 for the time he had dedicated, you know. 00:24:34.47\00:24:36.60 So yes, you can see me working on my laptop 00:24:36.64\00:24:39.94 because I got to keep going, 00:24:39.97\00:24:41.64 you know, as long as I have energy, 00:24:41.68\00:24:43.14 as long as I'm still focused on the mission, 00:24:43.18\00:24:48.42 I got to spread it out 00:24:48.45\00:24:49.78 and keep going, keep working hard. 00:24:49.82\00:24:51.15 Absolutely. 00:24:51.19\00:24:52.52 Work hard but, you know, stay humble. 00:24:52.55\00:24:53.89 Absolutely, and it's always interesting 00:24:53.92\00:24:56.39 to hear the story behind 00:24:56.42\00:24:59.19 how a ministry or a company got started, 00:24:59.23\00:25:03.20 because often times, 00:25:03.23\00:25:04.57 you just see the finished product. 00:25:04.60\00:25:05.93 You've no idea where it came from, 00:25:05.97\00:25:07.44 what went into creating it, what's the story behind it. 00:25:07.47\00:25:12.07 So that's always exciting, 00:25:12.11\00:25:14.04 and I really love the fact 00:25:14.08\00:25:16.21 that you're allowing God to use you 00:25:16.24\00:25:18.31 and to spread the Gospel via the shirts, you know, 00:25:18.35\00:25:23.32 it creates so much conversation. 00:25:23.35\00:25:26.49 One thing I didn't add 00:25:26.52\00:25:27.89 or did I add, I don't know but... 00:25:27.92\00:25:31.39 Just by the shirts alone like they last very long. 00:25:31.43\00:25:37.07 Mm-hm. 00:25:37.10\00:25:38.43 So a lot of you get to see it in the conversations' thought. 00:25:38.47\00:25:41.17 Let me see one of those, you have, yes, 00:25:41.20\00:25:43.81 this is the shirt that you have on. 00:25:43.84\00:25:46.11 Yeah, if you like this one, too. 00:25:46.14\00:25:48.38 Yeah, that's nice. 00:25:48.41\00:25:50.28 I need to get, I have to get Tiffany some more shirts. 00:25:50.31\00:25:54.22 Oh, yeah, definitely. 00:25:54.25\00:25:55.58 It feels like a great quality. 00:25:55.62\00:25:57.89 Yeah, I have choose, you can see here, 00:25:57.92\00:26:01.49 I choose like a softer fabric, 00:26:01.52\00:26:03.83 it's not heavy kind or anything so that, 00:26:03.86\00:26:06.03 it's just softer, nicer feeling, 00:26:06.06\00:26:07.40 it's something I like to wear. 00:26:07.43\00:26:08.76 Right, so... 00:26:08.80\00:26:10.13 Uh-huh. 00:26:10.17\00:26:11.50 Instead of just wearing the regular stuff, 00:26:11.53\00:26:13.40 I like the softer and comfortable shirts, 00:26:13.44\00:26:15.10 those high-quality stuff. 00:26:15.14\00:26:16.47 Now, what about shrinkage? 00:26:16.50\00:26:18.27 Like when you wash it, does it shrink? 00:26:18.31\00:26:20.18 Or I mean what is the... 00:26:20.21\00:26:21.54 1.89%, does that matter? 00:26:21.58\00:26:23.98 No, not in this case. 00:26:24.01\00:26:27.58 Shrink a little bit, but not so much. 00:26:27.62\00:26:29.15 Wow, okay. 00:26:29.18\00:26:30.52 Yeah, so it's just, what I'm doing right now, 00:26:30.55\00:26:33.76 this is the chapter 00:26:33.79\00:26:35.12 that God has let in my life so far. 00:26:35.16\00:26:36.99 Praise Lord, and you took some time off work, 00:26:37.03\00:26:40.26 like when you were working, you took how many months off? 00:26:40.30\00:26:43.33 I took three months off, 00:26:43.37\00:26:47.24 pretty much out of work in the last three months 00:26:47.27\00:26:49.84 to research and redefine the company, 00:26:49.87\00:26:53.11 redefine the business. 00:26:53.14\00:26:54.58 And it paid off, meaning not money wise, 00:26:54.61\00:27:01.02 it paid off in terms of how I conduct the business, 00:27:01.05\00:27:03.79 things are better quality, 00:27:03.82\00:27:05.15 things are, the philosophy is different. 00:27:05.19\00:27:07.52 Mm-hm. And that's been really awesome. 00:27:07.56\00:27:09.69 Sometimes you got to do that with any industry. 00:27:09.72\00:27:11.79 Absolutely. 00:27:11.83\00:27:13.16 so what did people say like 00:27:13.19\00:27:14.53 when you were taking off three to four months? 00:27:14.56\00:27:17.03 They're like, "You are crazy, 00:27:17.07\00:27:18.40 you're like, you know, how you're gonna get work? 00:27:18.43\00:27:19.77 Are you paying the bills?" 00:27:19.80\00:27:21.27 Or like, you know, and stuff like that. 00:27:21.30\00:27:25.01 Yeah, sometimes, I was like, 00:27:25.04\00:27:27.18 "Wow, I should really get back to work." 00:27:27.21\00:27:29.81 But sometime research and development 00:27:29.84\00:27:32.55 in any business, 00:27:32.58\00:27:33.92 you got to step back and check out 00:27:33.95\00:27:37.19 and how to make it more efficient, 00:27:37.22\00:27:38.72 I learned so much about my industry 00:27:38.75\00:27:40.09 that I didn't know before. 00:27:40.12\00:27:41.46 Yeah. 00:27:41.49\00:27:42.82 'Cause I was just over busy 00:27:42.86\00:27:44.19 and couldn't have time to dedicate. 00:27:44.23\00:27:45.56 So that's why I shut of everything. 00:27:45.59\00:27:46.93 Absolutely, I can definitely understand that. 00:27:46.96\00:27:48.30 Well, thank you so much for being with us, 00:27:48.33\00:27:50.77 and thank you for joining us. 00:27:50.80\00:27:52.40 Well, we have reached the end of another program. 00:27:52.43\00:27:54.57 Join us next time and remember, 00:27:54.60\00:27:56.10 it just wouldn't be the same without you. 00:27:56.14\00:27:58.94