Stay tuned to meet two women on a mission. 00:00:01.33\00:00:03.33 My name is Yvonne Lewis 00:00:03.37\00:00:04.97 and you're watching Urban Report. 00:00:05.00\00:00:07.04 Hello and welcome to Urban Report. 00:00:30.89\00:00:33.26 My guests today are both from the southern region 00:00:33.29\00:00:36.10 of the Illinois Department 00:00:36.13\00:00:37.50 of Children and Family Services; 00:00:37.53\00:00:39.63 Lori Gray, regional administrator 00:00:39.67\00:00:42.14 and Vendetta Dennis, program manager. 00:00:42.17\00:00:44.74 Welcome to Urban Report, Lori and Vendetta. 00:00:44.77\00:00:48.68 Thank you. 00:00:48.71\00:00:50.31 Our program, 00:00:50.38\00:00:51.78 and I don't know if you had a chance to ever watch it, 00:00:51.81\00:00:53.95 but this program has testimonies, 00:00:53.98\00:00:57.22 but also resources 00:00:57.25\00:00:59.09 and we wanted to have you from DCFS today 00:00:59.12\00:01:02.96 to just kinda share with us 00:01:02.99\00:01:05.56 what's going on in the whole foster care field. 00:01:05.59\00:01:09.06 Why is foster care important first of all? 00:01:09.10\00:01:13.07 Well, it's so important because there are families 00:01:13.10\00:01:16.67 that need support and help 00:01:16.71\00:01:20.84 and children that need places to live um... 00:01:20.88\00:01:24.68 that's the minimum they need. 00:01:24.71\00:01:26.88 They need a lot more than that. 00:01:26.92\00:01:28.55 They need mentors and guides and parents 00:01:28.58\00:01:32.25 and people to help them recover 00:01:32.29\00:01:35.02 from things that have happen to them, 00:01:35.06\00:01:36.56 bad things that have happened. 00:01:36.59\00:01:38.29 So there's a lot of call for families 00:01:38.33\00:01:42.06 to come forward and help these young people... 00:01:42.10\00:01:46.20 be them...get their best life. 00:01:46.23\00:01:48.00 Yes, yes what would you say is a kind of a typical profile 00:01:48.04\00:01:54.21 of a child that comes to you, Vendetta? 00:01:54.24\00:01:57.48 Probably, a child 00:02:03.08\00:02:05.75 who has been neglected 00:02:05.79\00:02:10.86 as a result of substance abuse 00:02:10.93\00:02:16.87 where the parent has been unable to 00:02:16.93\00:02:20.40 properly parent him in the home 00:02:20.44\00:02:24.97 which has resulted in 00:02:25.01\00:02:28.48 him being neglected in terms of maybe food, clothing, 00:02:28.51\00:02:34.45 shelter, educational needs umm... 00:02:34.48\00:02:40.12 that's probably, that's one type. 00:02:40.16\00:02:43.69 We also have situations 00:02:43.73\00:02:46.53 where children may have been abused 00:02:46.56\00:02:51.13 also from substance abuse, 00:02:51.17\00:02:56.07 mental illness, physical abuse, 00:02:56.10\00:03:02.74 just about every societal ill so to speak, 00:03:02.78\00:03:09.68 touches the life of the children 00:03:09.72\00:03:11.79 that we serve. 00:03:11.82\00:03:14.89 How do people... 00:03:14.92\00:03:18.66 How do you find these children? 00:03:18.69\00:03:20.96 Because normally I know the children 00:03:21.00\00:03:22.80 wouldn't come to you. 00:03:22.83\00:03:24.67 How do you find them? 00:03:24.70\00:03:26.90 Every one actually hmm... 00:03:26.94\00:03:28.67 So state Illinois has a hotline, 00:03:28.70\00:03:30.97 24 hour hotline, 00:03:31.01\00:03:32.67 and anytime somebody suspects abuse or neglect, 00:03:32.71\00:03:36.34 they can call the hotline and that will create a report 00:03:36.38\00:03:40.78 and then, we do what is called an investigation, 00:03:40.82\00:03:43.85 and we make a decision at that point in time 00:03:43.89\00:03:47.32 whether the children are safe to remain with their parents 00:03:47.36\00:03:49.69 or if they are not, 00:03:49.72\00:03:51.09 then we remove them from the home. 00:03:51.13\00:03:53.46 That's actually not the largest part of what we do. 00:03:53.50\00:03:56.40 We do do services with intact families, 00:03:56.43\00:03:59.40 try to support families, strengthen them, 00:03:59.43\00:04:01.94 help them maintain at home with their parents, 00:04:01.97\00:04:05.04 that's our first goal always. 00:04:05.07\00:04:07.48 Removal is really less then 5% with the reports we get. 00:04:07.51\00:04:12.35 So those tend be the cases that get the most attention... 00:04:12.38\00:04:16.15 Okay. 00:04:16.18\00:04:17.59 But that 5%, that's a difficult population 00:04:17.62\00:04:21.09 and those are children 00:04:21.12\00:04:22.46 typically who have really suffered 00:04:22.49\00:04:24.79 pretty serious abuse and neglect 00:04:24.83\00:04:26.80 as Vendetta described. 00:04:26.83\00:04:28.30 So that hotline 00:04:28.33\00:04:29.66 and our programs goes around the country, 00:04:29.70\00:04:31.80 are they others that you know of other hotlines 00:04:31.83\00:04:34.84 around the country 00:04:34.87\00:04:36.20 for different child protective services 00:04:36.24\00:04:39.71 that people can call in and say I suspect that... 00:04:39.74\00:04:43.31 Is it anonyms or is it? 00:04:43.35\00:04:45.85 It is in Illinois. Okay 00:04:45.88\00:04:47.48 It can be in Illinois. 00:04:47.52\00:04:49.38 I'm not...I can't speak for the other States, 00:04:49.42\00:04:51.59 most...all state do have a hotline, 00:04:51.62\00:04:54.72 but you can also notify law enforcement 00:04:54.76\00:04:56.32 if it's something serious or urgent 00:04:56.36\00:04:58.46 or something like that, 00:04:58.49\00:05:00.63 but I'm not sure, I couldn't say nationally, 00:05:00.66\00:05:04.33 the rules regarding anonymity, 00:05:04.37\00:05:08.07 but in Illinois, you can remain anonymous. 00:05:08.10\00:05:10.84 'Cause I would think that there might be some calls 00:05:10.91\00:05:15.51 that are just not grounded in reality 00:05:15.54\00:05:20.22 and then some that are so, 00:05:20.25\00:05:22.45 you know, and then some people don't let it to be known 00:05:22.48\00:05:26.29 that they are the ones that called and, you know, 00:05:26.32\00:05:28.92 for retaliation purposes and all that. 00:05:28.96\00:05:31.29 So, I would think that would be an issue, 00:05:31.33\00:05:33.70 but I didn't know that that's really just 5% 00:05:33.73\00:05:37.57 that the children, that are abused 00:05:37.60\00:05:39.10 are really, maybe, just 5% of the children 00:05:39.13\00:05:42.90 that you deal with. 00:05:42.94\00:05:44.27 Well, let me clarify that. 00:05:44.31\00:05:45.64 The 5% number, the under 5% are the children we've removed 00:05:45.67\00:05:48.11 from their parents. 00:05:48.14\00:05:49.88 There a much larger number of children 00:05:49.91\00:05:52.11 that we have involvement with 00:05:52.15\00:05:54.92 in an effort to keep them at home 00:05:54.95\00:05:58.25 and to keep them in their home of parents, 00:05:58.29\00:06:02.52 and we try to provide services to the parents 00:06:02.56\00:06:05.79 and keep them there. 00:06:05.83\00:06:07.23 And see I love that because it's so, 00:06:07.23\00:06:09.96 no matter how uncomfortable unless there's abuse going on, 00:06:10.00\00:06:13.54 no matter how uncomfortable it is 00:06:13.57\00:06:15.14 that's still the child's home. 00:06:15.17\00:06:17.21 So it would seem to me that it would be so traumatic 00:06:17.24\00:06:21.01 to remove the child from the home 00:06:21.04\00:06:23.21 unless there's abuse. 00:06:23.24\00:06:25.21 If there's abuse, you have to do it, obviously, 00:06:25.25\00:06:27.62 but if not, it makes so much more sense 00:06:27.65\00:06:30.19 to strengthen that family. 00:06:30.22\00:06:31.55 So what kinds of things do you do 00:06:31.59\00:06:33.29 to strengthen the family unit? 00:06:33.36\00:06:36.86 What we have, what's what we call intech services 00:06:36.93\00:06:39.36 and those services are called families that we serve...we 00:06:39.39\00:06:42.00 assign a case manager, and we provide, 00:06:42.03\00:06:44.87 as Vendetta mentioned, substance abuse serve... 00:06:44.90\00:06:47.50 well, we refer them out for those services, 00:06:47.54\00:06:49.54 substance abuse services, mental health services, 00:06:49.57\00:06:52.71 we can do parenting again, home parenting classes with, 00:06:52.74\00:06:57.55 you know, we can help them get on their feet. 00:06:57.61\00:06:59.08 We actually have some funds available to help a family 00:06:59.11\00:07:02.35 who maybe is in poverty, 00:07:02.38\00:07:05.19 doesn't have housing or the ability to pay for food. 00:07:05.22\00:07:08.49 So there's a lot we can do in home, 00:07:08.52\00:07:12.43 and we would only remove a child 00:07:12.46\00:07:14.83 if those things could not, there was enough, 00:07:14.83\00:07:18.27 we could do in that way to keep them safe. 00:07:18.30\00:07:21.07 Explain what both of you do for DCFS. 00:07:21.10\00:07:24.67 What do both of you do? 00:07:24.71\00:07:26.04 I know you're the regional manager. 00:07:26.07\00:07:28.64 I'm the regional administrator. 00:07:28.68\00:07:30.05 So basically, I'm over the operations 00:07:30.08\00:07:32.28 in the bottom 34 county of southern Illinois, 00:07:32.31\00:07:34.72 so from the metro east, 00:07:34.75\00:07:36.89 St. Louis area down to the Alexander county Cairo area. 00:07:36.92\00:07:41.36 So I'm over all the follow-up services, 00:07:41.39\00:07:43.83 those are children who have come into foster care 00:07:43.86\00:07:46.49 and then, all the child protection investigations 00:07:46.53\00:07:49.40 that are also conducted in Southern Illinois. 00:07:49.43\00:07:52.57 What do you do Vendetta? 00:07:52.60\00:07:53.94 I am over the foster home 00:07:54.00\00:07:58.54 recruitment and retention 00:07:58.57\00:08:01.51 and the permanency, the permanency achievement, 00:08:01.54\00:08:05.81 excuse me, permanency achievements specialist. 00:08:05.85\00:08:10.75 The permanency achievement specialist are those workers 00:08:10.82\00:08:15.12 who work with a family at the beginning 00:08:15.16\00:08:20.16 of their involvement in the foster care experience. 00:08:20.23\00:08:24.73 We've trying to locate relatives 00:08:24.77\00:08:29.84 or what we call fictive kin 00:08:29.87\00:08:34.78 or any other support of resource to their family 00:08:34.81\00:08:40.12 that may be of assistance to their family 00:08:40.15\00:08:42.92 while their child or children are in care. 00:08:42.95\00:08:49.12 They also work with children who have been identified, 00:08:49.16\00:08:55.43 what we call step downs, 00:08:55.46\00:08:57.53 they have been in a residential placement, 00:08:57.57\00:09:00.07 and they are in now ready 00:09:00.10\00:09:01.90 to be in a less restrictive environment 00:09:01.94\00:09:05.97 meaning a specialized foster home 00:09:06.01\00:09:10.18 or a traditional foster home 00:09:10.21\00:09:16.38 or it may be even step home 00:09:16.42\00:09:19.52 or even be able to go home 00:09:19.55\00:09:21.86 to their biological family. 00:09:21.89\00:09:25.33 So they work with the case managers 00:09:25.36\00:09:30.00 that have those cases 00:09:30.07\00:09:31.40 to try to make sure that that happens. 00:09:31.43\00:09:34.74 So they involved at the front door 00:09:34.77\00:09:37.67 and also at the back door. 00:09:37.71\00:09:42.31 Of course, the foster care recruitment and retention 00:09:42.34\00:09:46.82 is pretty obvious a work with those individuals 00:09:46.85\00:09:51.95 that go out and recruit foster homes 00:09:51.99\00:09:56.36 and then work with the foster homes 00:09:56.39\00:10:00.00 to try to make sure that we are being supportive of them 00:10:00.03\00:10:03.26 so that we can retain them. 00:10:03.33\00:10:05.57 Right, right. So what the foster home... 00:10:05.60\00:10:09.10 Were you gonna say something? Oh! 00:10:09.14\00:10:10.47 With the foster homes, 00:10:10.51\00:10:12.31 what kinds of parents do you look for? 00:10:12.34\00:10:14.91 What kinds of families do you look for 00:10:14.94\00:10:17.41 to place the children in? 00:10:17.45\00:10:21.72 It's interesting that the children 00:10:21.75\00:10:24.15 that are coming in a foster care are very unique, 00:10:24.19\00:10:26.29 and so it's hard to kind of 00:10:26.32\00:10:29.09 summarize the needs of each individual child 00:10:29.12\00:10:33.36 'coz who knows what families are gonna work for what child. 00:10:33.40\00:10:36.50 Generally speaking, you know, you have to be 21 at foster, 00:10:36.53\00:10:42.17 and we require background check that they clear, you know? 00:10:42.20\00:10:45.67 No criminal history 00:10:45.71\00:10:47.04 or no history of abuse and neglect. 00:10:47.11\00:10:50.18 You know, we have minimum requirements for, 00:10:50.21\00:10:53.05 you know, a place to live and the foster child 00:10:53.08\00:10:55.52 will have some space 00:10:55.55\00:10:58.29 and so there are kinda of those minimum things. 00:10:58.32\00:11:01.12 Does it have to be a couple? 00:11:01.16\00:11:03.29 Can it be a single person? 00:11:03.32\00:11:04.66 Single person, civil unions. 00:11:04.69\00:11:11.20 We've had sisters that lived together 00:11:11.23\00:11:14.24 who fostered together. 00:11:14.27\00:11:15.84 We've had single people working, not working. 00:11:15.87\00:11:20.44 Actually, it's pretty much as long as you're an adult, 00:11:20.48\00:11:22.38 you can handle and can pass a background check 00:11:22.41\00:11:25.15 and we believe you can provide care, adequate care, 00:11:25.18\00:11:30.45 it's certainly an opportunity. 00:11:30.49\00:11:32.02 That's great and so, 00:11:32.05\00:11:35.09 there is some kind of remuneration for this, right? 00:11:35.12\00:11:38.09 The parents, the State will pay the parent. 00:11:38.13\00:11:42.16 What does that... how does that run? 00:11:42.20\00:11:44.00 How does that work? 00:11:44.03\00:11:45.37 So basically, so children in foster care, 00:11:45.40\00:11:49.24 we do pay for... it's basically their... 00:11:49.27\00:11:52.44 for their care, their board and we call it a Board Rate, 00:11:52.47\00:11:56.41 a technical term, but it's a Board Rate 00:11:56.44\00:11:59.41 and basically it's supposed to help with 00:11:59.45\00:12:01.65 food and clothing and those kinds of things. 00:12:01.68\00:12:04.75 Okay, but you can't give me any like... 00:12:04.79\00:12:07.09 Oh! 00:12:07.16\00:12:08.49 Well, it actually varies depending on the type of home. 00:12:08.52\00:12:11.16 So for example, many of our foster parents 00:12:11.19\00:12:14.63 are relative caregivers, 00:12:14.66\00:12:16.77 and so they actually receive a lower rate 00:12:16.83\00:12:19.83 if they are unlicensed 00:12:19.87\00:12:22.20 'coz a traditional foster parent, 00:12:22.24\00:12:23.57 which we have somebody a stranger to a child 00:12:23.61\00:12:25.91 let's say, they are considered a traditional foster parent 00:12:25.94\00:12:29.28 and so they are licensed by us 00:12:29.31\00:12:31.75 and then they receive a higher rate 00:12:31.78\00:12:33.25 which is somewhere for $475 or $486 a month 00:12:33.28\00:12:38.52 per child. 00:12:38.55\00:12:40.62 But a relative, for example, would receive a reduced rate 00:12:40.66\00:12:43.79 coz they are not licensed necessarily. 00:12:43.83\00:12:46.59 So, if the relative became licensed, 00:12:46.66\00:12:48.76 they receive the higher rates. 00:12:48.80\00:12:50.13 They receive the higher rates. Yes. 00:12:50.20\00:12:51.53 And how long is the licensing process? 00:12:51.57\00:12:54.34 It varies. 00:12:54.37\00:12:55.80 They are... 00:12:55.84\00:12:59.54 typically three to six months. 00:12:59.57\00:13:02.88 Yeah, right that would be about right, six months. 00:13:02.91\00:13:04.78 I think that would be fair. 00:13:04.81\00:13:07.82 So, usually, let's kinda walk me through this, 00:13:07.85\00:13:11.12 walk of yours through this, 00:13:11.15\00:13:13.69 so someone calls your agency and says, 00:13:13.76\00:13:17.13 "Little Johnny is being abused 00:13:17.16\00:13:20.23 by his mom and dad," 00:13:20.30\00:13:23.37 and so from that call on, 00:13:23.43\00:13:26.57 walk us through what happens to little Johnny. 00:13:26.60\00:13:30.47 So it would depend on where they called, 00:13:30.51\00:13:34.84 if they'd called, they should call the hotline 00:13:34.88\00:13:38.28 or they could call the police 00:13:38.31\00:13:41.38 and once they called the hotline, 00:13:41.42\00:13:44.05 there are workers that have been trained 00:13:44.09\00:13:48.89 to screen these types of calls, 00:13:48.92\00:13:54.20 to try to see if there is not evidence 00:13:54.23\00:14:00.84 but if there is a suspected possibility, 00:14:00.87\00:14:07.38 so to speak, 00:14:07.41\00:14:08.74 that there has been an abuse and neglect, 00:14:08.78\00:14:10.95 those workers will ask certain questions of the caller 00:14:10.98\00:14:14.82 and as Lori said, their identity is... 00:14:14.85\00:14:20.86 remains anonymous, 00:14:20.89\00:14:23.02 a lot of times, almost say a lot of times, 00:14:23.06\00:14:25.53 but some times people can figure out 00:14:25.56\00:14:31.50 who is making the calls 00:14:31.53\00:14:34.87 and that has something to do with someone like 00:14:34.90\00:14:38.87 with harassment calls, some times 00:14:38.91\00:14:41.08 and when people think that 00:14:41.11\00:14:42.68 certain people have called, they will, you know, 00:14:42.71\00:14:46.38 so they have been trained on how to try to 00:14:46.41\00:14:49.65 distinguish between those types of calls. 00:14:49.68\00:14:52.75 Right. Is it live or is it numberic? 00:14:52.79\00:14:55.26 Is it real or is it somebody with some agenda? 00:14:55.29\00:15:00.06 Right, right, exactly. 00:15:00.13\00:15:01.86 So when they make the determination 00:15:01.90\00:15:05.37 that it is lie, 00:15:05.40\00:15:08.00 they will assign that particular report 00:15:08.04\00:15:12.97 to a particular area 00:15:13.01\00:15:16.95 where that call is coming from to that office, 00:15:16.98\00:15:20.62 that serves that area 00:15:20.65\00:15:22.35 and it assigned to an investigator 00:15:22.38\00:15:26.62 and that investigator has up to 24 hours 00:15:26.65\00:15:30.76 to initiate that report unless it has been deemed 00:15:30.83\00:15:37.03 necessary for them to go out prior to that, 00:15:37.07\00:15:41.14 it could be as quickly as an hour. 00:15:41.17\00:15:43.67 It just depends on the nature of the allegation. 00:15:43.71\00:15:46.84 So if it seems as though 00:15:46.88\00:15:48.21 the child is in imminent danger... 00:15:48.24\00:15:49.88 Yes 00:15:49.91\00:15:51.25 Someone goes out within the hour. 00:15:51.28\00:15:52.61 Yes. 00:15:52.65\00:15:53.98 Wow and then, but if it's not like a sexual abuse 00:15:54.02\00:15:58.32 or something like that, 00:15:58.35\00:16:00.89 then it might be 24 hours or 48 hours 00:16:00.92\00:16:03.79 or something like that. 00:16:03.86\00:16:05.19 Yes, yes. 00:16:05.23\00:16:06.56 And a lot of that is based on age of the child, 00:16:06.59\00:16:10.10 what they are alleging. 00:16:10.17\00:16:12.33 Just as an example, 00:16:12.37\00:16:14.84 we consider an emergency response, 00:16:14.87\00:16:17.97 it was a young child in a home 00:16:18.01\00:16:19.77 that didn't have any heat 00:16:19.81\00:16:22.01 and the temperature was, you know, 00:16:22.04\00:16:24.35 one of those below zero night wind chills, you know, 00:16:24.38\00:16:26.72 and so something like that can create 00:16:26.75\00:16:28.58 an emergency response. 00:16:28.62\00:16:30.99 So even though that may be an allegation 00:16:31.02\00:16:33.69 that the house wasn't appropriate 00:16:33.76\00:16:35.89 and normally, we might take 24 hours to initiate that, 00:16:35.92\00:16:38.86 in that particular situation, it's an emergency 00:16:38.89\00:16:41.66 because we have a young child with no heat. 00:16:41.70\00:16:43.93 Right, Right 00:16:43.97\00:16:45.30 And it's a long night when you're cold. 00:16:45.33\00:16:46.67 So it does really just vary, and there's a lot of judgment 00:16:46.70\00:16:50.07 that plays into that when they make those decisions. 00:16:50.11\00:16:54.04 So the person has called, 00:16:54.08\00:16:56.64 the investigator has been assigned, 00:16:56.71\00:17:00.18 the investigator goes to home, 00:17:00.25\00:17:02.38 what kind of responses do you often get 00:17:02.42\00:17:05.95 when that person... 00:17:05.99\00:17:07.32 Well, first I guess they call to say that they are coming. 00:17:07.39\00:17:09.82 No, no, no. Oh! They just show up? 00:17:09.86\00:17:11.36 Yes. Oh, okay. 00:17:11.39\00:17:12.83 So then what happens? Wow! 00:17:12.86\00:17:14.73 Well, it varies, you know. Yeah, yeah. 00:17:14.76\00:17:18.83 Sometimes, I think people aren't surprised. 00:17:18.87\00:17:24.67 It depends on what the allegation is, 00:17:24.71\00:17:31.25 but often you are met with anger initially 00:17:31.28\00:17:37.89 because this is an outsider coming to your home 00:17:37.92\00:17:44.16 and is telling you that 00:17:44.23\00:17:46.90 they need to question you about something that you are 00:17:46.93\00:17:53.40 or not doing with your child so... 00:17:53.44\00:17:58.24 That's a very sensitive place 00:17:58.27\00:18:02.81 where a stranger comes to your home 00:18:02.84\00:18:05.95 and accuses you of doing or not doing 00:18:05.98\00:18:09.35 something with your child. 00:18:09.38\00:18:11.49 I mean, I can see how... 00:18:11.52\00:18:13.12 That's a dangerous job. 00:18:13.15\00:18:15.39 The investigator has a dangerous job 00:18:15.42\00:18:17.56 because there is gonna be typically, 00:18:17.59\00:18:20.06 I would think, some resistance, some anger and lashing out. 00:18:20.13\00:18:24.10 And sometimes, depending on the allegation, 00:18:24.17\00:18:27.34 it may be necessary that they have 00:18:27.37\00:18:29.67 the local police to accompany them. 00:18:29.70\00:18:33.78 Okay. 00:18:33.81\00:18:35.14 We don't ever wanna put our investigators in harms way. 00:18:35.18\00:18:38.75 Yeah. 00:18:38.78\00:18:40.12 If at all possible, so if there is 00:18:40.15\00:18:42.45 even an inkling that things may not go as smoothly, 00:18:42.48\00:18:47.49 as they possibly could, investigators will contact. 00:18:47.56\00:18:53.80 Well, I'll just add that investigators 00:18:53.83\00:18:56.16 don't call ahead or whatever, but what they can do 00:18:56.20\00:18:58.83 if it's a family they have concerned about, 00:18:58.87\00:19:02.40 they can call in talk the law enforcement, 00:19:02.44\00:19:05.17 you know, and ask questions about, 00:19:05.21\00:19:06.71 do you know this family? 00:19:06.74\00:19:08.68 Does this family have a criminal history? 00:19:08.71\00:19:10.98 Is there anybody in the household that I might, 00:19:11.01\00:19:12.85 you know, need to be cautious of? 00:19:12.88\00:19:14.48 And they can also call the person that reported 00:19:14.52\00:19:17.82 if that person provided their name and number, 00:19:17.85\00:19:20.69 they can call that reporter and say, 00:19:20.72\00:19:22.06 "You know, how do you think this family 00:19:22.09\00:19:23.86 will respond to me coming out? 00:19:23.89\00:19:25.29 I mean are they aware that you reported this? 00:19:25.33\00:19:27.73 There's an extra lot of people tell them, 00:19:27.76\00:19:29.73 teachers will say, "I'm calling in the hotline." 00:19:29.76\00:19:33.20 So some families do know, so they can do some pre-work 00:19:33.23\00:19:37.94 to avoid some of those situations. 00:19:37.97\00:19:40.78 But frequently, it's just a cold knock on the door. 00:19:40.81\00:19:44.55 Wow! Okay. 00:19:44.58\00:19:46.18 So little Johnny over in the corner some where 00:19:46.21\00:19:50.49 and the mom and the dad 00:19:50.52\00:19:52.15 opens the door, how did they... 00:19:52.19\00:19:56.26 What does the investigator say? 00:19:56.29\00:19:57.93 I know it's not everybody says the same thing, 00:19:57.96\00:20:00.80 but it must be some kind of general thing. 00:20:00.83\00:20:03.73 What do they say normally to the parent 00:20:03.77\00:20:06.17 that has opened the door, 00:20:06.20\00:20:08.24 and now they are gonna find out that 00:20:08.27\00:20:09.97 they have done or haven't done something, 00:20:10.01\00:20:11.64 they have been accused of something, 00:20:11.67\00:20:13.48 what does the investigator say? 00:20:13.54\00:20:17.35 I think the first thing is engagement, 00:20:17.41\00:20:20.48 and we have to go to the door with a, 00:20:20.52\00:20:22.38 you know, this is who we are, 00:20:22.42\00:20:24.69 and we just need to ask some questions 00:20:24.72\00:20:27.12 and get some information and this call has come into us 00:20:27.16\00:20:29.92 and somebody was concerned enough to call 00:20:29.99\00:20:31.89 about your child and so, you know, they're gonna... 00:20:31.93\00:20:34.83 most of our investigator are well trained 00:20:34.83\00:20:37.60 in the art of negotiating their way in the door. 00:20:37.63\00:20:41.10 I guess you could say. 00:20:41.14\00:20:42.47 So they have been trained in that way, 00:20:42.50\00:20:46.04 not every family is as receptive as some families. 00:20:46.07\00:20:48.74 It's interesting a lot of families are... 00:20:48.78\00:20:50.31 I think I don't know if it's shock 00:20:50.38\00:20:52.01 or, you know, somebody is at my door. 00:20:52.05\00:20:54.32 A lot of families are very okay, you know, 00:20:54.35\00:20:56.65 why are you here? 00:20:56.72\00:20:58.19 Like, I don't understand this or they know. 00:20:58.22\00:21:01.49 I know that happened and here's what happened 00:21:01.52\00:21:03.93 and so it's just a varying in degree of willingness, 00:21:03.96\00:21:09.06 but it is overly all about engagement 00:21:09.10\00:21:10.87 on the part of the investigator. 00:21:10.93\00:21:12.53 Well, that makes sense to me. 00:21:12.57\00:21:14.04 So the investigator is kind of 00:21:14.10\00:21:15.50 going on a fact-finding mission. 00:21:15.54\00:21:18.54 Yeah, exactly. 00:21:18.57\00:21:19.91 To determine whether not the allegation are grounded. 00:21:19.94\00:21:24.01 If there is no validity to it, 00:21:24.05\00:21:25.61 they write that up and then they are gone, 00:21:25.65\00:21:27.42 but if there is, what do they do next? 00:21:27.48\00:21:31.19 Well, it just depends on what the allegation is 00:21:31.22\00:21:35.76 and hopefully, we will ask them 00:21:35.79\00:21:42.23 if they would like to have services 00:21:42.26\00:21:44.83 'coz during the course of the investigation, 00:21:44.87\00:21:48.10 something else may come out of it 00:21:48.14\00:21:50.64 where the family is in need of some services 00:21:50.67\00:21:55.01 that will allow them to be able to function 00:21:55.04\00:22:01.25 may be better than what they were 00:22:01.28\00:22:03.05 before we walked into their life. 00:22:03.08\00:22:05.12 So they will ask 00:22:05.15\00:22:08.16 if they would like to have counseling, 00:22:08.19\00:22:12.19 could be a day care, 00:22:12.23\00:22:16.33 parenting. 00:22:16.36\00:22:20.84 Would they agree to do some substance abuse services, 00:22:20.90\00:22:23.97 if that was an identified issue. 00:22:24.01\00:22:26.21 So we kinda give them some options, 00:22:26.24\00:22:28.88 here are the things that you could do 00:22:28.91\00:22:30.25 to strengthen your family. 00:22:30.31\00:22:31.65 We'd like to help you do that. 00:22:31.68\00:22:33.01 Are these group sessions 00:22:33.05\00:22:34.48 or are these individualized family sessions? 00:22:34.52\00:22:38.52 In other words, if it's substance abuse, 00:22:38.55\00:22:40.32 do they go out to a program or if it's parenting, 00:22:40.36\00:22:44.99 do they go out to a parenting seminar? 00:22:45.03\00:22:47.86 Yes, however. 00:22:47.86\00:22:50.00 What's available. Right. 00:22:50.03\00:22:51.70 Both kinds of parenting I think. 00:22:51.73\00:22:53.17 Right, in home and out of home. 00:22:53.20\00:22:56.00 Okay, okay. 00:22:56.04\00:22:57.37 Here, we try to do what we call 00:22:57.44\00:22:59.41 individualized service plan with families. 00:22:59.44\00:23:04.35 We try to identify their strengths 00:23:04.38\00:23:07.35 and their opportunities for growth. 00:23:07.42\00:23:09.52 Nice 00:23:09.55\00:23:10.89 So and in doing that, 00:23:10.92\00:23:14.16 then we can set out a course to help them 00:23:14.19\00:23:18.46 to be able to navigate through the child welfare system 00:23:18.49\00:23:25.03 or to get out of the child welfare system. 00:23:25.07\00:23:29.47 Right, right, right. 00:23:29.50\00:23:30.87 So what steps should a parent take or families take 00:23:30.91\00:23:36.28 if they want a foster child? 00:23:36.31\00:23:38.61 What should they do? 00:23:38.65\00:23:40.58 And talk about the need if you would for 00:23:40.62\00:23:43.12 homes to take in, these children. 00:23:43.15\00:23:46.09 So foster, actually, nationally, 00:23:46.12\00:23:50.53 there is a need for foster parents. 00:23:50.59\00:23:54.03 We are... there's always gonna be a need. 00:23:54.10\00:23:56.60 We'd love to be at a business that's just the work we do, 00:23:56.63\00:24:01.50 but there's always gonna be a need for people 00:24:01.54\00:24:03.61 to be willing to take in young people 00:24:03.64\00:24:06.37 and help them grow. 00:24:06.41\00:24:08.41 You know, part of the national movement as well 00:24:08.44\00:24:11.91 is moving towards more of a, 00:24:11.95\00:24:13.85 looking at a less in fostering children 00:24:13.92\00:24:15.68 and may be fostering families 00:24:15.72\00:24:18.09 and what can families do to not just, 00:24:18.12\00:24:22.66 I mean, take a child into your home 00:24:22.69\00:24:24.03 but then support their birth family 00:24:24.06\00:24:26.33 and may be mentor them and do... 00:24:26.36\00:24:28.46 what we call shared parenting 00:24:28.50\00:24:30.87 which is where may be a foster mother is now 00:24:30.93\00:24:34.30 also in some ways mothering the parent 00:24:34.34\00:24:36.97 because what we know about trauma to families, 00:24:37.01\00:24:39.87 there is a lot of these parents, 00:24:39.91\00:24:42.11 they wouldn't unnecessarily parent it either. 00:24:42.14\00:24:44.35 That's right. 00:24:44.38\00:24:45.71 And so what we are trying to do is 00:24:45.75\00:24:47.42 give them the same support 00:24:47.48\00:24:49.38 and hopefully, be able to reunite them 00:24:49.42\00:24:50.85 with their children, 00:24:50.89\00:24:52.22 and if we can't reunite them with their children, 00:24:52.25\00:24:54.62 they will still have a relationship 00:24:54.66\00:24:56.32 with their children 00:24:56.36\00:24:57.69 that is kept between the foster family, 00:24:57.73\00:25:01.10 the family that's raising her child, 00:25:01.13\00:25:03.97 they can still know the birth family 00:25:04.00\00:25:06.10 and that's so important 00:25:06.13\00:25:07.47 because so many of the children in our system 00:25:07.54\00:25:09.47 are older youth who, 00:25:09.50\00:25:12.51 you know, they need those commitments, 00:25:12.54\00:25:13.88 they need those lives on connections 00:25:13.91\00:25:15.64 and that's who they want to know 00:25:15.68\00:25:17.28 when they are adults is those birth families. 00:25:17.35\00:25:18.85 Exactly. 00:25:18.88\00:25:20.22 I'm reminded of a family of five children 00:25:20.25\00:25:24.79 who were fortunately placed together 00:25:24.82\00:25:27.16 which is what we like to do 00:25:27.19\00:25:29.19 whenever possible to keep siblings together. 00:25:29.22\00:25:33.03 And they were in a foster home 00:25:33.06\00:25:35.73 that allowed the mother to come in 00:25:35.76\00:25:40.40 and bathe the youngest child every day, 00:25:40.44\00:25:46.47 to try to keep that connectedness 00:25:46.51\00:25:50.41 and also help the mother to recognize 00:25:50.45\00:25:54.08 that she was still a part of their life 00:25:54.12\00:25:59.09 and that the place where her children were 00:25:59.12\00:26:04.26 was a safe place 00:26:04.29\00:26:06.66 and it really help's particularly the older children 00:26:06.73\00:26:11.50 to be able to adjust to being without their mom 00:26:11.53\00:26:16.10 for the period of time that they were 00:26:16.14\00:26:19.64 and then, they eventually, they'll say, they went home 00:26:19.67\00:26:24.08 and the foster parents provide baby sitting for them 00:26:24.15\00:26:30.09 for the mother now 00:26:30.12\00:26:32.55 because the reason they came in to care was because 00:26:32.59\00:26:35.02 she was not providing adequate supervision, 00:26:35.06\00:26:38.39 so she was able to get that support system there 00:26:38.43\00:26:41.80 and...yes. 00:26:41.83\00:26:43.16 That's beautiful, that's beautiful 00:26:43.20\00:26:44.53 'cause you kept the family intact, 00:26:44.57\00:26:46.70 you know, the mother still had contact. 00:26:46.74\00:26:48.90 How can people get in touch with you 00:26:48.94\00:26:52.21 if they wanna become foster parents? 00:26:52.24\00:26:54.04 What do they... how do they reach you? 00:26:54.08\00:26:56.44 Well, DCFS has a website, 00:26:56.48\00:26:59.75 so it's DCFS.illinois.gov 00:26:59.78\00:27:06.42 and then, we have regionally, we have a local person, 00:27:06.45\00:27:12.89 and so if they call 618-583-2100 00:27:12.93\00:27:18.07 and ask for, if they are interested in fostering, 00:27:18.10\00:27:21.20 we will get them to who they need to talk to. 00:27:21.24\00:27:23.81 Wonderful! Thank you so much for being with us. 00:27:23.84\00:27:26.17 Thank you for having us, thank you. 00:27:26.21\00:27:29.18 You know, James 1:27 says, 00:27:29.21\00:27:31.28 "Pure and undefiled religion 00:27:31.31\00:27:32.85 before God and the Father is this, 00:27:32.88\00:27:35.18 'To visit orphans and widows in their trouble, 00:27:35.22\00:27:37.62 and to keep oneself unspotted from the world'". 00:27:37.65\00:27:40.76 While foster children may not be orphans, 00:27:40.79\00:27:43.16 they need homes, loving care and compassion from us. 00:27:43.19\00:27:46.90 We can train them in a way they should go 00:27:46.93\00:27:48.80 and give them the best gift that we have, Jesus Christ. 00:27:48.83\00:27:52.67 Well, we've reached the end of another program. 00:27:52.70\00:27:55.30 Join us next time 'cause you know what? 00:27:55.34\00:27:57.37 It just won't be the same without you. 00:27:57.41\00:28:00.71