Are you a prayer wimp? 00:00:01.36\00:00:02.83 Are your prayers short, weak and ineffective? 00:00:02.86\00:00:05.73 Well, stay tuned to meet a woman 00:00:05.77\00:00:07.20 who can give you tips to set those prayers on fire. 00:00:07.24\00:00:10.77 My name is Yvonne Lewis, 00:00:10.81\00:00:12.21 and you're watching Urban Report. 00:00:12.24\00:00:14.88 Hello, and welcome to Urban Report. 00:00:38.63\00:00:40.70 My guest today is Dr. Nadine Joseph-Collins. 00:00:40.74\00:00:44.11 Dr. Joseph-Collins is a woman's advocate 00:00:44.14\00:00:46.64 and a prayer counselor. 00:00:46.68\00:00:48.14 Welcome to Urban Report, doctor. 00:00:48.18\00:00:50.55 Thank you. 00:00:50.58\00:00:51.91 It's so much to say Dr. Joseph-Collins, 00:00:51.95\00:00:53.95 may I just call you Nadine? 00:00:53.98\00:00:55.32 Yes, it's perfect. Alright, good. 00:00:55.35\00:00:56.69 Good, good, good. 00:00:56.72\00:00:58.05 So you are involved in this whole aspect of prayer 00:00:58.09\00:01:03.56 and there are so many people, 00:01:03.59\00:01:06.73 I hear all the time and I have too, I must confess. 00:01:06.76\00:01:10.67 This is time for true confessions, right? 00:01:10.70\00:01:12.60 So up until this past year, my prayer life was really weak. 00:01:12.63\00:01:19.24 If I have to say, I mean, it was just weak, 00:01:19.27\00:01:20.98 I would just say a couple of lines 00:01:21.01\00:01:22.74 and then get up and do what I had to do but it just... 00:01:22.78\00:01:27.95 I wanted more and I knew that I needed more 00:01:27.98\00:01:31.85 and then the Lord showed me something 00:01:31.89\00:01:33.59 and we can talk about that later. 00:01:33.62\00:01:34.99 But there are so many people who like me, 00:01:35.02\00:01:38.49 had this or have just this weak, 00:01:38.53\00:01:41.56 ineffective prayer life. 00:01:41.60\00:01:44.83 What have you found as you go around the country, 00:01:44.87\00:01:48.27 what have you found had been the main concerns of people 00:01:48.30\00:01:51.87 with prayer? 00:01:51.91\00:01:53.38 Yes, one of the major concerns people have and I was surprised 00:01:53.41\00:01:57.38 because growing up in the church I thought, 00:01:57.41\00:01:59.28 you know, we see very good prayers, 00:01:59.31\00:02:01.65 you must admit, if there are any people 00:02:01.68\00:02:03.65 who can pray in the face of Adventist people, 00:02:03.69\00:02:06.09 we have the lingo correct... 00:02:06.12\00:02:07.82 Right. 00:02:07.86\00:02:09.19 We all of these, you know, I call Hailey Mary's, you know. 00:02:09.22\00:02:12.09 We have this gracious and eternal heavenly Father, 00:02:12.13\00:02:15.03 hasten the foot steps of those who are on their way, 00:02:15.06\00:02:17.73 we your loving children combine before you, 00:02:17.77\00:02:20.00 we have a lot of lingo and I thought, man, 00:02:20.04\00:02:21.90 we got this thing covered, 00:02:21.94\00:02:23.64 we know how to pray and God taught me, 00:02:23.67\00:02:26.37 that really we say prayers 00:02:26.41\00:02:28.78 but our prayers are not effective prayers. 00:02:28.81\00:02:31.55 Now what's the difference? 00:02:31.58\00:02:32.91 The big difference is you could say something very nice, 00:02:32.95\00:02:37.12 like a good prayer, 00:02:37.15\00:02:38.62 the ones that we do all the time 00:02:38.65\00:02:40.46 but effective prayer is praying that actually breed results. 00:02:40.49\00:02:45.23 Positive results, I'm talking about, 00:02:45.26\00:02:46.59 not just any results. 00:02:46.63\00:02:47.96 Right. 00:02:48.00\00:02:49.33 So you talk about what is the major problem I found, 00:02:49.36\00:02:51.07 both here in the US 00:02:51.10\00:02:52.43 and traveling around the world, 00:02:52.47\00:02:53.80 is that a lot of people are frustrated 00:02:53.84\00:02:55.40 in their prayer lives 00:02:55.44\00:02:56.77 because they're not getting answers from God. 00:02:56.81\00:03:00.41 It's like, I was surprised 00:03:00.44\00:03:02.48 to meet so many frustrated Christians, 00:03:02.51\00:03:05.51 they are like, you know, um, I've been praying, 00:03:05.55\00:03:09.12 God doesn't answer, 00:03:09.15\00:03:10.92 I have these needs and people are deflated. 00:03:10.95\00:03:15.86 They are disgusted somewhat in a sense as well 00:03:15.89\00:03:18.36 because we're speaking about this prayer thing 00:03:18.39\00:03:20.30 but God is not hearing me 00:03:20.33\00:03:21.90 and I found that there are reasons 00:03:21.93\00:03:23.67 why we're not getting answers to our prayers 00:03:23.70\00:03:26.13 and that is where the rubble meets the road 00:03:26.17\00:03:29.07 and everybody is not willing to go there. 00:03:29.10\00:03:30.87 Okay, so now let's talk about that, 00:03:30.91\00:03:32.84 'cause I wanna hear. 00:03:32.87\00:03:34.21 Okay, so what are the reasons 00:03:34.24\00:03:37.25 that people are not getting answers? 00:03:37.28\00:03:40.35 Okay, you want the long story or the short story? 00:03:40.38\00:03:43.02 The long story, we have time. The long story. 00:03:43.05\00:03:45.05 Okay, let's start. 00:03:45.09\00:03:46.69 So the thing is, when we first met, 00:03:46.72\00:03:49.36 I met you as Dr. Yvonne Lewis... 00:03:49.39\00:03:51.39 Yes. And now I call you, 'Yvonne.' 00:03:51.43\00:03:53.13 Right. 00:03:53.16\00:03:54.50 Maybe in the next three years, I may call you, 00:03:54.53\00:03:55.86 "Hey, what's up, Y?" 00:03:55.90\00:03:57.23 You know, you shorten the name, so on. 00:03:57.27\00:03:59.23 Now what people don't realize or we already heard 00:03:59.27\00:04:02.77 but we have not been implementing 00:04:02.80\00:04:04.51 is that in order for us to have a powerful prayer life, 00:04:04.54\00:04:07.61 we first need to have a relationship with God. 00:04:07.64\00:04:12.51 We don't just need to know about Him, 00:04:12.55\00:04:15.02 we don't just need to go to church, 00:04:15.05\00:04:16.79 we need an intimate relationship. 00:04:16.82\00:04:20.72 And when people hear intimate sometimes, 00:04:20.76\00:04:22.52 they always think about a man and woman relationship, 00:04:22.56\00:04:25.16 but when we think about the story of Elijah, 00:04:25.19\00:04:27.33 when he was in the cave in I Kings 19. 00:04:27.36\00:04:30.13 The Bible said, he heard God in a whisper, 00:04:30.17\00:04:33.17 that was above the rocks breaking down, 00:04:33.20\00:04:35.94 above the wind, above the lightning, 00:04:35.97\00:04:38.44 above all of the noise, 00:04:38.47\00:04:39.81 so it says that he must have been in close proximity to God 00:04:39.84\00:04:43.28 because if I'm in a room and I whisper 00:04:43.31\00:04:45.75 and you're on the other side, you'll not hear me. 00:04:45.78\00:04:48.28 In order for you to hear my whisper, 00:04:48.32\00:04:49.65 we need to be in close proximity. 00:04:49.68\00:04:51.69 So it starts with our relationship with God, 00:04:51.72\00:04:54.46 not just be in a said relationship 00:04:54.49\00:04:56.99 but a relationship that actually works. 00:04:57.03\00:04:58.96 You know how we spend all of that time, 00:04:58.99\00:05:01.30 when Facebook, what's apping people, 00:05:01.33\00:05:03.60 I-message, over Skype, whatever it is, 00:05:03.63\00:05:06.70 we spend a lot of time 00:05:06.74\00:05:08.70 investing in people that we love. 00:05:08.74\00:05:11.74 We spend all that time talking to them 00:05:11.77\00:05:13.61 and we expect our relationship with God 00:05:13.64\00:05:15.54 to be something hurried. 00:05:15.58\00:05:17.28 So in order for me to know your voice, like, 00:05:17.31\00:05:18.91 if I called you on the phone when we just met, 00:05:18.95\00:05:21.25 I would have had to say, "Hi, Yvonne, this is Nadine." 00:05:21.28\00:05:23.22 I'm sure I'll have to identify myself a few times 00:05:23.25\00:05:25.75 in the next few conversations until one day when I call, 00:05:25.79\00:05:29.02 I wouldn't have to identify myself anymore 00:05:29.06\00:05:30.99 in the advent of like caller id, 00:05:31.03\00:05:33.40 because you'd recognize my voice. 00:05:33.43\00:05:35.66 I'm loving this, Nadine. I'm loving this. 00:05:35.70\00:05:39.07 Oh, man, this is so beautiful, 00:05:39.10\00:05:41.74 because this is personalizing God. 00:05:41.77\00:05:44.67 Yes, yes. 00:05:44.71\00:05:46.04 This is not... He's not some deity out there, 00:05:46.07\00:05:51.11 He's someone that's wants to be right here... 00:05:51.15\00:05:53.52 Wants to be right there and sometime it comforts me, 00:05:53.55\00:05:55.88 you know, cause I'm like, Lord, you are who you are and yet 00:05:55.92\00:05:59.99 when we choose to spend time for you, 00:06:00.02\00:06:01.66 it means so much to Him 00:06:01.69\00:06:03.59 and that is why people 00:06:03.63\00:06:04.96 who spend a lot of time in God's presence 00:06:04.99\00:06:07.40 appear to be more blessed than others 00:06:07.43\00:06:10.63 because you're a parent and you know like, 00:06:10.67\00:06:13.67 you might have a kid who's close to you 00:06:13.70\00:06:15.74 and you may have a kid who lives far away from you, 00:06:15.77\00:06:17.41 the one who's close to you, 00:06:17.44\00:06:18.77 you usually get more of your presence, 00:06:18.81\00:06:21.14 they get more of your attention and stuff like that 00:06:21.18\00:06:23.88 and when we look at God and spending time with Him, 00:06:23.91\00:06:26.61 it's like the child who chooses to spend more time with Him, 00:06:26.65\00:06:29.72 end up getting a little more blessings 00:06:29.75\00:06:31.95 because they're right there under Him. 00:06:31.99\00:06:34.06 I am one of those children, 00:06:34.09\00:06:35.96 I want to be as close as possible 00:06:35.99\00:06:38.36 as I can get to God. 00:06:38.39\00:06:39.73 Yes. 00:06:39.76\00:06:41.10 I wanna get as much from Him as I can. 00:06:41.13\00:06:42.56 As my father, you wanna give me... 00:06:42.60\00:06:44.20 He says He wanna give us exceedingly abundantly 00:06:44.23\00:06:46.74 above anything we can ask 00:06:46.77\00:06:49.24 but He wants that personal time. 00:06:49.27\00:06:52.17 This is so good, um, there is a pastor 00:06:52.21\00:06:55.68 that came to 3ABN to visit 00:06:55.71\00:06:58.45 and he had told one of my friends, 00:06:58.48\00:07:01.95 Irma Murray, she had heard him say, 00:07:01.98\00:07:04.75 he has this relationship with the Lord that is really, 00:07:04.79\00:07:08.52 just special and he said that just what you're saying, 00:07:08.56\00:07:11.89 that God, that Jesus specifically, is lonely. 00:07:11.93\00:07:18.30 When she told me that, tears came to my eyes 00:07:18.33\00:07:21.30 because I don't think of Jesus as lonely. 00:07:21.34\00:07:23.77 I don't think of Him as wanting to be so close. 00:07:23.81\00:07:28.61 I mean, I do but I don't. 00:07:28.64\00:07:29.98 I don't think of Him as lonely though, 00:07:30.01\00:07:31.35 I've never thought of Him like that 00:07:31.38\00:07:33.48 and then when I talked to Pastor Portes, 00:07:33.52\00:07:35.78 when he was here, he said, 00:07:35.82\00:07:38.25 "Jesus doesn't just want members, 00:07:38.29\00:07:40.89 He wants friends." 00:07:40.92\00:07:43.32 He wants friends and so what you're saying 00:07:43.36\00:07:45.96 is just reinforcing that 00:07:45.99\00:07:47.76 and actually that's life changing 00:07:47.80\00:07:51.17 because once you realize that, 00:07:51.20\00:07:54.34 you find out how you can get closer to Him 00:07:54.37\00:07:58.31 and you do it. 00:07:58.34\00:07:59.67 I mean, my life has been changed totally, 00:07:59.71\00:08:02.14 so I totally, I'm just like, 00:08:02.18\00:08:03.71 I'm so into this, okay, so... 00:08:03.75\00:08:05.28 Yes, yes, so we need to know His voice. 00:08:05.31\00:08:06.95 Yes. 00:08:06.98\00:08:08.32 And one another thing is like I mentioned, 00:08:08.35\00:08:10.49 for us to know His voice, 00:08:10.52\00:08:12.05 we'd have to spend time talking to Him. 00:08:12.09\00:08:14.16 Right. 00:08:14.19\00:08:15.52 So when the noises of life come, 00:08:15.56\00:08:17.23 the stress is the frustrations, above all of that noise, 00:08:17.26\00:08:20.73 we can still hear that voice of God, 00:08:20.76\00:08:22.20 that still small voice just like Elijah heard 00:08:22.23\00:08:25.00 and another aspect of our prayer life, like, 00:08:25.03\00:08:27.17 a fundamental aspect is that prayer 00:08:27.20\00:08:30.11 or talking to God is a two way conversation. 00:08:30.14\00:08:33.98 Most times when we go to Him, 00:08:34.01\00:08:35.94 we go to Him and we do all the talking. 00:08:35.98\00:08:38.35 Right. 00:08:38.38\00:08:39.71 Now how many of us would like to be in a relationship 00:08:39.75\00:08:41.78 where one person does all the talking? 00:08:41.82\00:08:43.79 Well, honestly, for me, that's what made it boring. 00:08:43.82\00:08:47.02 I mean, I just have to admit it 00:08:47.06\00:08:48.66 because I was doing all the talking... 00:08:48.69\00:08:50.13 Yes, yes. So, I mean, I was. 00:08:50.16\00:08:52.79 So if you're doing all the talking, 00:08:52.83\00:08:54.63 you're just saying, tu, tu, tu, tu, tu, okay. 00:08:54.66\00:08:58.00 And both parties are frustrated. 00:08:58.03\00:08:59.50 Why? 00:08:59.53\00:09:00.87 Because you do all the talking and you get frustrated 00:09:00.90\00:09:02.77 because you may not get the response you want 00:09:02.80\00:09:04.64 or you may not get any response at all 00:09:04.67\00:09:06.91 and the person on the list might feel left out. 00:09:06.94\00:09:09.78 So if we're talking about God as a personal God, 00:09:09.81\00:09:11.75 having that personal relationship, 00:09:11.78\00:09:13.78 you could imagine how hurt and frustrated He is 00:09:13.82\00:09:16.95 that He wants to talk back to us 00:09:16.99\00:09:19.19 and I thought about something recently 00:09:19.22\00:09:21.29 and I thought, "Wow, you know, 00:09:21.32\00:09:22.76 we actually should change our self, 00:09:22.79\00:09:24.89 when we do all the talking." 00:09:24.93\00:09:26.43 Absolutely. 00:09:26.46\00:09:28.13 Yes, because He wants to bless us 00:09:28.16\00:09:31.17 more than we can ask and as human beings, 00:09:31.20\00:09:34.57 if we have not died to serve 00:09:34.60\00:09:36.20 which is something I need to touch on soon, 00:09:36.24\00:09:38.07 if we have not given up our will for God's will, 00:09:38.11\00:09:40.54 every time we go to ask Him something, 00:09:40.58\00:09:42.91 we're asking Him something we can see in our own eyes, 00:09:42.94\00:09:45.85 something that we can measure, 00:09:45.88\00:09:47.22 something we think it's actually close above. 00:09:47.25\00:09:50.09 But when we trust Him and we allow Him to talk, 00:09:50.12\00:09:52.62 then He gives us the bigger picture. 00:09:52.65\00:09:54.92 He shows us so much more blessings I want to give you, 00:09:54.96\00:09:58.33 you cannot ask me things that I wanna give you 00:09:58.36\00:10:01.06 because I wanna give you so much more 00:10:01.10\00:10:02.80 than you could ever ask or think. 00:10:02.83\00:10:04.47 Yes. 00:10:04.50\00:10:05.83 Yes, and we should change ourselves 00:10:05.87\00:10:07.67 and we shorten God's hands 00:10:07.70\00:10:09.80 because we wanted all the talking. 00:10:09.84\00:10:11.87 So the first thing we have to do 00:10:11.91\00:10:15.41 is spend more time with Him, 00:10:15.44\00:10:17.55 so that we can differentiate His voice from any other, 00:10:17.58\00:10:23.28 then what? 00:10:23.32\00:10:24.92 We need to wait on Him, listen to Him talk, 00:10:24.95\00:10:28.86 allow prayer to be a two way conversation 00:10:28.89\00:10:32.43 and not just us bringing our requests to Him. 00:10:32.46\00:10:34.36 Love it. 00:10:34.40\00:10:35.73 Yes. Okay. 00:10:35.76\00:10:37.10 And then the other thing we have to recognize 00:10:37.13\00:10:38.50 is that we need to practice it, 00:10:38.53\00:10:42.57 like every other art, like everything else in life, 00:10:42.60\00:10:46.37 Ellen G. White speaks about prayer as a science 00:10:46.41\00:10:49.24 and most of us would like to hear the word, 'science' 00:10:49.28\00:10:51.75 but it simply means like there's a strategy, 00:10:51.78\00:10:54.25 there's probably something logical 00:10:54.28\00:10:55.92 that we can do to get responses from God. 00:10:55.95\00:10:58.85 And part of that has to do with us recognizing, 00:10:58.89\00:11:01.52 Galatians 2:20, 00:11:01.56\00:11:03.96 where it says "I am crucified with Christ, never the less, 00:11:03.99\00:11:07.13 I live, yet not I but Christ lives in me, 00:11:07.16\00:11:10.30 and so the life I now live, 00:11:10.33\00:11:11.67 I'm not living it 00:11:11.70\00:11:13.03 but I'm living it by the son of God is living in me." 00:11:13.07\00:11:16.00 This has so much today for prayer life 00:11:16.04\00:11:18.54 that we don't recognize 00:11:18.57\00:11:20.34 and it's exciting to me 00:11:20.38\00:11:22.04 when the Lord revealed that to me, 00:11:22.08\00:11:23.95 that if I die to self and Jesus is living in me, 00:11:23.98\00:11:29.42 this body belongs to Nadine, right? 00:11:29.45\00:11:32.25 Well, it doesn't really belong to. 00:11:32.29\00:11:34.52 This body is Nadine's body, right? 00:11:34.56\00:11:36.99 But when Christ is living in this body, 00:11:37.03\00:11:39.66 Christ is living in me, the Bible says, 00:11:39.69\00:11:41.93 "Whatsoever things you ask in prayer, 00:11:41.96\00:11:44.17 believing you receive it, you will have it." 00:11:44.20\00:11:46.43 And most times we say that text, 00:11:46.47\00:11:48.20 we quote that text and we think we're going to go 00:11:48.24\00:11:50.77 and ask things and of course, we will get it 00:11:50.81\00:11:52.44 but we have not recognized 00:11:52.47\00:11:54.38 that it's contingent upon Christ being the one in us. 00:11:54.41\00:11:57.88 He's living in us, so when He's living in me, 00:11:57.91\00:12:00.95 whatever I ask, it is not Nadine asking, 00:12:00.98\00:12:04.29 it is the Spirit of God living in me, 00:12:04.32\00:12:06.15 prompting me to ask God and that is why He says, 00:12:06.19\00:12:09.52 "Whatsoever you ask, you will receive it,..." 00:12:09.56\00:12:10.89 Why? 00:12:10.93\00:12:12.26 Because God is the one living in me 00:12:12.29\00:12:14.66 and He's telling me what to ask 00:12:14.70\00:12:16.20 and then He answers Himself and He will never deny Himself 00:12:16.23\00:12:20.74 what He puts in my heart to ask Him 00:12:20.77\00:12:23.30 and so that's where or that's the key 00:12:23.34\00:12:25.67 to have in our prayer lives, go wow. 00:12:25.71\00:12:28.54 That's the key to having God answering every prayer 00:12:28.58\00:12:31.38 that we ask because when you go to Him, 00:12:31.41\00:12:33.08 it's not Yvonne asking God, 00:12:33.11\00:12:35.32 it's the Spirit of God asking through you 00:12:35.35\00:12:38.05 and God answers these prayers so He can help build our faith. 00:12:38.09\00:12:41.39 He answers these prayers, 00:12:41.42\00:12:42.76 so we can have that confidence to continue to seek Him 00:12:42.79\00:12:45.76 which is another thing. 00:12:45.79\00:12:47.16 Yes, yes, so what do you say though to the person 00:12:47.20\00:12:51.57 who, let's say, my spouse is very ill 00:12:51.60\00:12:55.60 and I pray and I pray and I pray 00:12:55.64\00:12:59.84 and I ask God to raise my spouse up but He doesn't? 00:12:59.87\00:13:05.61 Then that prayer was a no, the answer was a no. 00:13:05.65\00:13:09.48 How do you explain that? 00:13:09.52\00:13:11.25 That is one of the most frequent questions 00:13:11.29\00:13:14.36 I get when I travel around. 00:13:14.39\00:13:17.03 There are a few different ways we can look at it, 00:13:17.06\00:13:19.03 we can look at it in one way where, 00:13:19.06\00:13:22.83 did you ask God if it was His will 00:13:22.86\00:13:25.23 that this person is healed? 00:13:25.27\00:13:27.74 Maybe, there maybe more glory 00:13:27.77\00:13:30.74 in this person's death than in life, 00:13:30.77\00:13:33.98 that's just one angle, in other words, 00:13:34.01\00:13:36.38 God sees beyond us, our eye sight is so limited, 00:13:36.41\00:13:40.52 we can only see now, so, "Oh, Lord, 00:13:40.55\00:13:42.62 I just want my spouse to be healed now." 00:13:42.65\00:13:45.05 I was just speaking to a friend today. 00:13:45.09\00:13:47.26 Her daughter died, 00:13:47.29\00:13:49.52 so I was in a prayer group and so my friend 00:13:49.56\00:13:53.60 the contact I am with in touch of all the time, 00:13:53.63\00:13:55.83 she was relaying the message to me, 00:13:55.86\00:13:57.70 so the lady's daughter died just about two months ago 00:13:57.73\00:14:01.00 and we found out that because of her death, 00:14:01.04\00:14:04.74 so many people have changed their lives. 00:14:04.77\00:14:08.08 And when I heard it today, she was only 26, 00:14:08.11\00:14:10.41 it was comforting because I'm like, "Wow, 00:14:10.45\00:14:12.35 so God is doing more in her death than in life. 00:14:12.38\00:14:15.52 More lives have been changed." 00:14:15.55\00:14:17.15 I mean, it's not our desire for our family members to die, 00:14:17.19\00:14:19.69 especially young people, but it's just simple to say, 00:14:19.72\00:14:22.76 God is in control of all things and while we might think, 00:14:22.79\00:14:26.26 "Okay, my spouse needs to be healed 00:14:26.29\00:14:28.06 and God is not doing that." 00:14:28.10\00:14:29.70 1)Maybe, we should see God's will. 00:14:29.73\00:14:32.37 Lord, what is your will? 00:14:32.40\00:14:34.57 Which is one of the things that is attached to self, 00:14:34.60\00:14:38.87 when self is alive, 00:14:38.91\00:14:41.04 the will of God we are not seeking. 00:14:41.08\00:14:43.65 So we are never going to edify 00:14:43.68\00:14:45.31 Lord, what do you want? 00:14:45.35\00:14:47.08 But when self is dying or when self is dead, 00:14:47.12\00:14:50.15 all you're doing is seeking God, 00:14:50.19\00:14:51.69 what do you want, Lord? 00:14:51.72\00:14:53.05 What do you want? What do you want? 00:14:53.09\00:14:54.96 And I remember the first time I came across that word, 00:14:54.99\00:14:57.76 'the will of God, ' I was in my late teens, 00:14:57.79\00:15:00.86 around 19 there about and there was this book in the ABC, 00:15:00.90\00:15:03.77 'How to know God's will in your life?" 00:15:03.80\00:15:05.70 And I read the book 00:15:05.73\00:15:07.07 and I think in the first chapter the author said, 00:15:07.10\00:15:08.80 "To know God's will, you have no will of your own." 00:15:08.84\00:15:11.77 And I struggled with that for a long time, I thought, 00:15:11.81\00:15:13.88 "How could you not have a will of your own? 00:15:13.91\00:15:15.94 Meaning, okay, I want to go to the store 00:15:15.98\00:15:19.21 or I don't want to go to the store. 00:15:19.25\00:15:21.52 So I thought, "How could I do that? 00:15:21.55\00:15:23.65 How could I not have a will? 00:15:23.69\00:15:25.02 You know, how we're as human beings, 00:15:25.05\00:15:26.45 we want to do something, we usually have a direction. 00:15:26.49\00:15:28.32 Right. 00:15:28.36\00:15:29.69 You know, even when you do research, 00:15:29.72\00:15:31.06 you generally have a direction that you want to go in... 00:15:31.09\00:15:32.43 Right, right. 00:15:32.46\00:15:33.80 And I struggled with it but I decided, 00:15:33.83\00:15:35.16 Lord, let me try this. 00:15:35.20\00:15:37.20 And so I wanted to get a computer, 00:15:37.23\00:15:38.90 that's when people were now getting desktop computers 00:15:38.93\00:15:42.34 at home and so on, 00:15:42.37\00:15:43.71 and I went to the bank and I said, 00:15:43.74\00:15:45.74 "I would like to take a loan to get a desktop computer." 00:15:45.77\00:15:47.94 So that's like, in the late 1990's 00:15:47.98\00:15:50.05 that I bought it, 00:15:50.08\00:15:51.41 I hope I didn't gave away my age... 00:15:51.45\00:15:54.12 If you did, you're so young.? 00:15:54.15\00:15:56.62 I think it was in the late 90's, 00:15:56.65\00:15:58.02 like around 99 that I bought and so I went to the bank, 00:15:58.05\00:16:00.76 I gave my papers 00:16:00.79\00:16:02.12 and the gentleman put everything in the computer 00:16:02.16\00:16:04.49 and then he looks at me and he says, 00:16:04.53\00:16:06.83 "I don't get it." 00:16:06.86\00:16:08.36 He says, "You look on paper 00:16:08.40\00:16:10.87 as if everything is in order to get the loan 00:16:10.90\00:16:12.87 but the competition is saying you don't qualify." 00:16:12.90\00:16:16.07 Now when I was going for the loan, 00:16:16.10\00:16:17.44 I said to the Lord, I want it 'cause I want the computer 00:16:17.47\00:16:20.28 and if you don't want it, I don't want it. 00:16:20.31\00:16:21.64 So which ever way it goes, it's fine 00:16:21.68\00:16:23.38 and I looked at him and I said, "That's fine." 00:16:23.41\00:16:25.21 And he looked at me, "How do you mean it's fine? 00:16:25.25\00:16:28.05 I'm gonna go to the manager." 00:16:28.08\00:16:29.52 I said, "No, no, no, it's okay, it's fine, 00:16:29.55\00:16:30.89 thank you very much." 00:16:30.92\00:16:32.25 And I left. 00:16:32.29\00:16:33.89 The following week, 00:16:33.92\00:16:35.26 there's a couple I used to assist with doing, 00:16:35.29\00:16:37.06 um, projects with them 00:16:37.09\00:16:38.43 and I used to use my work computer to help 00:16:38.46\00:16:40.60 and they came to the office and said, "Nadine, 00:16:40.63\00:16:43.03 we would like to give you half of the money 00:16:43.06\00:16:44.77 to get your computer." 00:16:44.80\00:16:46.74 Wow, now look at how it would have been, 00:16:46.77\00:16:49.54 had you insisted, you would have paid the full price. 00:16:49.57\00:16:52.97 Only the full, I would have paid 00:16:53.01\00:16:54.34 probably three times the amount 00:16:54.38\00:16:55.98 for the desktop computer because, you know, 00:16:56.01\00:16:57.71 the interest rates on these loans are so high. 00:16:57.75\00:16:59.25 Right. 00:16:59.28\00:17:00.62 And so I'm like, that was my first experience 00:17:00.65\00:17:03.18 practicing having no will of your own and since then, 00:17:03.22\00:17:06.76 I have been using it and it has not failed me. 00:17:06.79\00:17:10.56 So it's a blessing 00:17:10.59\00:17:13.33 when we can take time to seek God, 00:17:13.36\00:17:16.67 to see what God wants for us 00:17:16.70\00:17:19.33 and then take time praying for that thing 00:17:19.37\00:17:23.54 that God has placed in your heart to ask of Him. 00:17:23.57\00:17:25.84 So when it comes to like the sick spouse and so on, 00:17:25.87\00:17:28.21 "Father, what is your will for my spouse? 00:17:28.24\00:17:31.25 How will you get glory in this situation?" 00:17:31.28\00:17:34.18 But most times, we do it from our own selfish perspective 00:17:34.22\00:17:37.09 not looking at how it might be in God's eyes 00:17:37.12\00:17:40.56 and so it will be a blessing when we spend more time 00:17:40.59\00:17:43.63 seeking the will of God and when we do that, 00:17:43.66\00:17:46.13 we would be less frustrated when we pray and answers come 00:17:46.16\00:17:50.73 because we are not praying on our own, 00:17:50.77\00:17:52.23 we are praying in the will of God 00:17:52.27\00:17:55.54 and that's where all of the answers are 00:17:55.57\00:17:58.14 because God will never deny Himself. 00:17:58.17\00:18:01.71 That's very interesting. 00:18:01.74\00:18:04.11 So... 00:18:04.15\00:18:06.28 I don't know if people ask you this question or not, 00:18:06.31\00:18:09.18 but, you know, there's this whole movement 00:18:09.22\00:18:11.69 of contemplative prayer 00:18:11.72\00:18:13.46 and that kind of thing in the church. 00:18:13.49\00:18:14.82 What... 00:18:14.86\00:18:16.19 and spiritual formation and that kind of thing. 00:18:16.22\00:18:18.33 What's different about what you are promoting than that? 00:18:18.36\00:18:23.50 For me, when I look at prayer 00:18:23.53\00:18:25.23 and what God has placed in my heart, 00:18:25.27\00:18:26.90 it's simply a matter of denying self. 00:18:26.94\00:18:31.91 Nothing in this has anything to do with me, 00:18:31.94\00:18:34.98 accepting the testimonies that God give me 00:18:35.01\00:18:37.18 from answering my prayers and I make sure 00:18:37.21\00:18:40.15 I share the testimonies because every time you do that, 00:18:40.18\00:18:44.22 you are lifting God up and because I call it, 00:18:44.25\00:18:47.42 "Being a billboard", I told Him, 00:18:47.46\00:18:48.79 "I want to be a billboard for you" 00:18:48.82\00:18:50.86 so that when others see my life, 00:18:50.89\00:18:52.96 they can know that you're real, 00:18:52.99\00:18:54.43 that you are true and that you work, 00:18:54.46\00:18:56.26 so it's all about God, 00:18:56.30\00:18:58.57 the answers that He gives to the prayers 00:18:58.60\00:19:01.24 and everything that He does, it's not about Nadine, 00:19:01.27\00:19:04.34 He's just going to use me so that He can shine, 00:19:04.37\00:19:06.81 that the world can see Him, 00:19:06.84\00:19:08.54 so it's not focusing on you really, 00:19:08.58\00:19:10.51 it's about God and I think God answers prayers for us 00:19:10.55\00:19:15.15 not because He just wants to answer the prayers, 00:19:15.18\00:19:20.22 He answers the prayers 00:19:20.26\00:19:21.59 because He also wants to build our faith, 00:19:21.62\00:19:23.96 so we have evidence that God works... 00:19:23.99\00:19:26.80 Absolutely. 00:19:26.83\00:19:28.16 And I tell people all the time like in my notes and stuff, 00:19:28.20\00:19:32.37 I keep this is the evidence of my prayer life. 00:19:32.40\00:19:36.64 So when God answers prayers and you keep the notes, 00:19:36.67\00:19:39.17 you know how we used to practice writing prayers, 00:19:39.21\00:19:42.04 requests and then burn them, 00:19:42.08\00:19:44.88 the Lord told me years ago, 00:19:44.91\00:19:46.92 over ten years ago, don't do that. 00:19:46.95\00:19:48.72 You're burning the evidence. 00:19:48.75\00:19:50.52 That's right, that's right. 00:19:50.55\00:19:51.89 You're burning the evidence 00:19:51.92\00:19:53.25 which will show that God actually works... 00:19:53.29\00:19:56.12 That's right. So you keep them. 00:19:56.16\00:19:58.46 And that's one of the things, Nadine, 00:19:58.49\00:20:01.23 that has revolutionized my prayer life 00:20:01.26\00:20:04.57 'cause Pastor Portes, again, came here and said, 00:20:04.60\00:20:07.20 "Get a notebook and write down the things 00:20:07.24\00:20:10.77 you want to ask God for, and then show, 00:20:10.81\00:20:15.04 you'll be able to see how He's answering your prayers. 00:20:15.08\00:20:18.85 You're very quick to forget but if we have it written down, 00:20:18.88\00:20:22.32 it's evidence." 00:20:22.35\00:20:23.69 I have some, I don't know if you want to see them. 00:20:23.72\00:20:25.05 Share it, yes, please. 00:20:25.09\00:20:26.42 You know, I have a lots but I just use a few here, 00:20:26.45\00:20:28.49 I wanted to just show you and I asked God, 00:20:28.52\00:20:32.56 you see when I talk about being personal, 00:20:32.59\00:20:35.06 I ask God for anything and for everything 00:20:35.10\00:20:39.60 and some of it might seem so frivolous to people. 00:20:39.63\00:20:42.20 Simple things... 00:20:42.24\00:20:43.57 But it's between you and God, right? 00:20:43.61\00:20:44.94 It's between us because it's our personal relationship. 00:20:44.97\00:20:46.71 Exactly. 00:20:46.74\00:20:48.08 And I tell people all the time, do not get upset 00:20:48.11\00:20:51.11 because of what I choose to ask God, 00:20:51.15\00:20:53.28 'cause I share with them what I ask, 00:20:53.31\00:20:54.88 some of the things I pass the notes around, 00:20:54.92\00:20:56.79 don't get upset because of what I ask Him for 00:20:56.82\00:20:58.69 because there's a lot more where that came from. 00:20:58.72\00:21:00.22 Right. 00:21:00.26\00:21:01.59 So you might think for example, 00:21:01.62\00:21:02.96 me asking Him for something like, 00:21:02.99\00:21:04.33 even braids for my hair or even undies, 00:21:04.36\00:21:07.30 I mean, it's crazy the things I ask Him for. 00:21:07.33\00:21:10.57 Yes, because He's my Father. That's right. 00:21:10.60\00:21:13.07 And I have made it a point, 00:21:13.10\00:21:14.64 "Hey, you gave me earthly parents 00:21:14.67\00:21:16.44 but I'm depending on you." 00:21:16.47\00:21:17.81 So everything I want, I go to God, 00:21:17.84\00:21:19.87 even when I ask Him for everything, 00:21:19.91\00:21:23.11 from my laptops to phones to everything and I'm specific. 00:21:23.14\00:21:28.45 Yes, that's another thing. 00:21:28.48\00:21:30.25 That's there's so much, I can talk about, 00:21:30.29\00:21:32.35 about prayer but I talk about being specific here, 00:21:32.39\00:21:35.96 in this devotional book, I wrote a few years ago, right, 00:21:35.99\00:21:38.93 and every time I go places, people tell me 00:21:38.96\00:21:40.93 this is one of the most powerful devotions for them. 00:21:40.96\00:21:43.87 Be specific and you know why we need to be specific in prayer? 00:21:43.90\00:21:46.23 Why? 00:21:46.27\00:21:47.60 Because the enemy is very ready to counterfeit 00:21:47.64\00:21:51.14 or to give us what it looks like the blessing. 00:21:51.17\00:21:54.31 So if I wanna pair of shoes 00:21:54.34\00:21:55.94 but I specifically want black shoes 00:21:55.98\00:21:58.05 and I just go to God and I say, 00:21:58.08\00:21:59.61 "I want a pair of shoes, Father." 00:21:59.65\00:22:02.62 And He blesses me and you give me a red pair 00:22:02.65\00:22:05.09 and I say, "Thanks, Yvonne." 00:22:05.12\00:22:06.45 Have my prayer been answered? 00:22:06.49\00:22:09.12 Well, no, you got a pair of shoes 00:22:09.16\00:22:10.83 but they weren't black. 00:22:10.86\00:22:12.19 Exactly, because my desire was 00:22:12.23\00:22:14.33 for a pair of black shoes, right? 00:22:14.36\00:22:16.30 But most of us will accept that pair of shoes 00:22:16.33\00:22:18.43 as the blessing but I will not. 00:22:18.47\00:22:21.50 I will take the red pair of shoes and then I will say, 00:22:21.54\00:22:24.67 "Thank you, Yvonne. 00:22:24.71\00:22:26.04 Thank you, Lord, 00:22:26.07\00:22:27.41 now I'm still waiting for my black pair of shoes." 00:22:27.44\00:22:29.41 You wanna hear another story. Yes. 00:22:29.44\00:22:30.98 Let me give you one about a phone. 00:22:31.01\00:22:32.35 Yes, yes. 00:22:32.38\00:22:33.72 I remember in college, where you know, 00:22:33.75\00:22:35.12 when Blackberries just came out, 00:22:35.15\00:22:36.75 there was a little square thing on the side, I had one 00:22:36.79\00:22:39.65 and then it got destroyed and I wanted an 8720. 00:22:39.69\00:22:43.79 It was coming out as a new one, very thin, 00:22:43.83\00:22:46.06 very cute and I remember asking God specifically right 00:22:46.09\00:22:50.30 and here just like I'm writing, 00:22:50.33\00:22:52.60 what kinds of phone I want and specific laptop I want 00:22:52.63\00:22:56.14 and so on and I wrote down, I wanted 8720, and one day, 00:22:56.17\00:23:02.14 somebody came and they brought me a Nokia phone 00:23:02.18\00:23:04.25 in the box and the bag, right. 00:23:04.28\00:23:07.02 And I took it from them only 00:23:07.05\00:23:09.45 because the person was very poor 00:23:09.48\00:23:10.82 and I thought if they went out of the way to get me a phone, 00:23:10.85\00:23:12.99 I need to take it. 00:23:13.02\00:23:14.76 So I took the phone, 00:23:14.79\00:23:16.52 I gave it to one of the gentlemen 00:23:16.56\00:23:18.29 in our prayer group and I tell God, 00:23:18.33\00:23:20.00 "I'm still waiting for my 8720." 00:23:20.03\00:23:22.43 So I called a friend, 00:23:22.46\00:23:23.80 I asked him to check the price for me and so I'm at home, 00:23:23.83\00:23:26.80 I didn't have the money 00:23:26.84\00:23:28.17 but I asked the question as if I had the money. 00:23:28.20\00:23:31.04 So can you check the price of that for me? 00:23:31.07\00:23:32.44 And, no problem. 00:23:32.47\00:23:33.81 They called me back that evening, 00:23:33.84\00:23:35.18 very same evening and said, "Nadine, I gotten your phone, 00:23:35.21\00:23:37.85 8720 and I paid zero dollars for it." 00:23:37.88\00:23:42.72 Wow. 00:23:42.75\00:23:44.55 So if I had accepted that Nokia as my blessing, 00:23:44.59\00:23:47.39 although I was specific about what I wanted, 00:23:47.42\00:23:50.09 I will not have gotten what I really want 00:23:50.13\00:23:52.09 and these things seem frivolous to people 00:23:52.13\00:23:54.06 but truly God is interested in every aspect of our lives. 00:23:54.10\00:23:58.03 Yes. 00:23:58.07\00:23:59.40 He said the bread and water is sure 00:23:59.43\00:24:00.77 and that doesn't mean 00:24:00.80\00:24:02.14 He doesn't want to give us everything else. 00:24:02.17\00:24:03.51 I ask for my bread and water and I ask for everything else. 00:24:03.54\00:24:07.11 Yes. 00:24:07.14\00:24:08.48 I tell God, I want every blessing 00:24:08.51\00:24:10.45 that has my name on it. 00:24:10.48\00:24:12.51 Every single one of these blessings 00:24:12.55\00:24:14.22 and so I have so many stories like that about things 00:24:14.25\00:24:17.99 that would come to me 00:24:18.02\00:24:20.56 before I get exactly what I asked for, 00:24:20.59\00:24:22.82 so we need to recognize when this fake blessings come, 00:24:22.86\00:24:26.56 but most of us stop right there, 00:24:26.59\00:24:28.20 we accept the look alike of the blessing 00:24:28.23\00:24:30.73 and we miss out on the blessing 00:24:30.77\00:24:32.13 that was almost there or the blessing 00:24:32.17\00:24:33.67 that's actually there. 00:24:33.70\00:24:35.17 You know, so... 00:24:35.20\00:24:36.54 I love it. And it's so good. 00:24:36.57\00:24:38.91 How did you get involved in prayer ministry? 00:24:38.94\00:24:43.28 You know, I'm tempted to say 00:24:43.31\00:24:45.08 that it started when I was in college 00:24:45.11\00:24:48.25 but I think it started a long time before that 00:24:48.28\00:24:50.65 because my grand mother 00:24:50.69\00:24:52.25 who raised me was a woman of prayer. 00:24:52.29\00:24:54.76 She was my first example of prayer, 00:24:54.79\00:24:56.93 that lady would pray all the time. 00:24:56.96\00:24:59.26 So that's my first real example of prayer, 00:24:59.29\00:25:01.83 prayer that actually works and then later on in life, 00:25:01.86\00:25:05.17 when I went to college, I had this friend 00:25:05.20\00:25:06.97 who actually taught me 00:25:07.00\00:25:08.34 about writing down my prayer requests. 00:25:08.37\00:25:09.77 We were prayer partners, Debbie. 00:25:09.80\00:25:11.64 And we would come to God 00:25:11.67\00:25:13.78 with our requests and the two of us would pray, 00:25:13.81\00:25:16.51 we would agree on it, 00:25:16.54\00:25:18.45 because remember the Bible says, 00:25:18.48\00:25:19.81 "If two agree on it, it is done." 00:25:19.85\00:25:21.22 And I recognize the enemy doesn't like agreement 00:25:21.25\00:25:24.72 because the Bible says, "One can slay a 1,000 00:25:24.75\00:25:27.82 but two can slay 10,000." 00:25:27.86\00:25:31.13 So the maths is not 1-1000, 2-2000, 00:25:31.16\00:25:34.30 it just jumps all the way to 10. 00:25:34.33\00:25:36.40 So we would write our requests and we would pray about them 00:25:36.43\00:25:41.07 and we would see God answer them 00:25:41.10\00:25:42.70 and that's how it really began for me 00:25:42.74\00:25:44.64 and then she introduced me to other people of prayer 00:25:44.67\00:25:47.21 and we began to minister to people 00:25:47.24\00:25:49.11 and I've seen God do the craziest of things. 00:25:49.14\00:25:52.98 For example, one time in college, 00:25:53.01\00:25:54.48 while I was in my masters, I asked God, 00:25:54.52\00:25:57.32 one of my AY leaders had a car. 00:25:57.35\00:26:00.32 His car would breakdown all the time. 00:26:00.36\00:26:03.83 I said to the Lord, "Listen, if I have a car, 00:26:03.86\00:26:06.76 I do not want a car like his, I want a brand new car." 00:26:06.80\00:26:10.30 Would you believe that I actually got a brand new car. 00:26:10.33\00:26:13.97 I didn't have to go to the bank for it, 00:26:14.00\00:26:15.84 I didn't have to take a loan, 00:26:15.87\00:26:17.21 I was just paying for it every month directly 00:26:17.24\00:26:19.54 because one of my friends' uncle, 00:26:19.57\00:26:23.18 we met over dinner and he needed somebody 00:26:23.21\00:26:25.85 to sort of sit his car, 00:26:25.88\00:26:28.08 that was another island and he didn't want it packed. 00:26:28.12\00:26:31.79 Wow, look at how God opened that door. 00:26:31.82\00:26:35.09 He is... I say God is crazy. 00:26:35.12\00:26:37.03 He is, He's crazy about you, He's crazy about me, 00:26:37.06\00:26:40.00 He's crazy about us, His children. 00:26:40.03\00:26:42.03 He loves us. 00:26:42.06\00:26:43.40 So what's the ultimate strategy for a wow prayer life? 00:26:43.43\00:26:48.87 I would say that we need to work on developing 00:26:48.90\00:26:51.07 the habit of praying everyday. 00:26:51.11\00:26:53.17 You realize that spells hope. 00:26:53.21\00:26:56.04 I love it. 00:26:56.08\00:26:57.41 Yes, we can use that acronym in our ministry, 00:26:57.45\00:26:59.58 you know, I use this product, 00:26:59.61\00:27:01.02 so we call it "24 Days" to developing a HOPE 00:27:01.05\00:27:03.72 which is the habit of praying every day 00:27:03.75\00:27:06.05 and psychologists are saying that top performers, 00:27:06.09\00:27:09.36 in order for them to do what they do 00:27:09.39\00:27:11.99 have really good habits, like athletes, 00:27:12.03\00:27:14.86 they say would spend at least 10, 000 hours practicing 00:27:14.90\00:27:18.07 to be good at their skill, 00:27:18.10\00:27:19.97 they say that musicians or artists, 00:27:20.00\00:27:23.14 Picasso, Mozart, 00:27:23.17\00:27:24.51 and these guys would spend a whole decade of silence, 00:27:24.54\00:27:26.57 they call it ten years to perfect the art 00:27:26.61\00:27:28.64 and if you wanna perfect your prayer life, 00:27:28.68\00:27:30.65 if you wanna be a top performer in your prayer life, 00:27:30.68\00:27:33.31 you need to practice praying everyday. 00:27:33.35\00:27:36.62 Everyday, praise the Lord. 00:27:36.65\00:27:38.09 Thank you so much for being with us, 00:27:38.12\00:27:40.32 but then put your website up. 00:27:40.36\00:27:41.89 So people can know how to reach you 00:27:41.92\00:27:44.73 and also we should tell them 00:27:44.76\00:27:46.09 that you are the new wife of our nice Collins, 00:27:46.13\00:27:48.60 who is the host of Dare to Dream's, 00:27:48.63\00:27:51.40 Taste of Paradise. 00:27:51.43\00:27:52.77 So tell Nyse, we said, hi. 00:27:52.80\00:27:54.47 Thank you so much for joining us, 00:27:54.50\00:27:56.84 we really love you and appreciate you. 00:27:56.87\00:27:58.91 Join us next time 00:27:58.94\00:28:00.28 'cause it just wouldn't be the same without you. 00:28:00.31\00:28:02.38