Stay tuned to meet a man
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who spends every
Christmas in prison.
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My name is Yvonne Lewis
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and you're
watching Urban Report.
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Hello and
welcome to Urban Report.
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My guest today is Lemuel Vega,
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he's the president
of Christmas Behind Bars
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and he is on fire for Jesus.
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Welcome to Urban Report, Lemuel.
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Thank you, sister.
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You've been here
a few times before
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and every time you
come, I just love it.
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It's such a blessing
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because what you're
doing is it's so impactful,
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it makes such a difference.
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Tell us about
Christmas Behind Bars.
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What is it?
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Well, you gave me
a nice introduction,
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president of
Christmas Behind Bars,
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but it says in the Word of God
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in Matthew 25:31.
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It says, "When the Son of
Man shall come in his glory,
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and all the
holy angels with him,
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then shall he sit upon
his throne of his glory:
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And before him shall
be gathered all nations:
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and he shall separate
them one from another,
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as a shepherd divideth
his sheep from the goats:"
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So we want to be
on the winning side,
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amen. Amen.
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Praise God. For sure.
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Christmas Behind
Bars is a prison ministry
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that was ordained by God,
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been in prison
myself for some years
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and the sad reality is,
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Yvonne, prison
doesn't change someone's life.
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Prison doesn't
have the ability to,
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and I've told the
inmates time and time again,
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if you take a hound dog
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and chain him up
to a telephone pole,
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and you tell him not
to chase a bunny rabbit,
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you can beat that dog,
you can starve that dog,
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you can whip that dog,
whatever you want to do,
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but when you let that dog
go, he's probably going to...
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Chase the bunny.
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Chase the bunny rabbit
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and so we were born
with the sin nature,
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were born with that sin nature,
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unless we got a power
greater than ourselves,
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we have no ability to change.
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And so the world is
bringing all kinds of medication
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and programs to people
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who have been incarcerated
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telling them this is the
way but if God's not in it,
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this is not going to happen.
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If God be for us...
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Who can be against
us? Who can be against us?
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So what you're saying is
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all of those things
are like a band-aid.
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That's right.
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Because they're not
getting to the root,
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everything needs
to get to the root
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cause of something,
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like what is the root
cause of this behavior,
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it's sin.
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Right. Sin is the root cause.
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And what can change sin?
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What can wash away my sin?
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The shed blood of Jesus Christ.
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Right.
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You know, I had
about four years clean
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maybe something like that,
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and I went to the hospital
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because I had
this really bad pain.
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It was terrible. It's awful.
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They called the
doctor in I was in ER.
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and the doctor tells me
they did some x-rays says,
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he's going to admit me to
the hospital for a few days,
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and I said, "For what?"
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And he said, "Well,
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we're going to give you morphine
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or demerol
treatment for a few days."
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I said, "No, sir" I
said, "I'm a drug addict,"
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and I said, "You can't."
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He said, "I thought
you were in a lot of pain."
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I said, "Sir, I am,
I'm in terrible pain,
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but if you give me
morphine or demerol today."
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I said it, "On Monday morning,
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my body ain't going to know
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that I don't need that, I can't,
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not supposed to have it."
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And so this doctor
educated in medicine.
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He said, "Oh, yeah.
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I used to smoke cigarettes
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and if I would
smoke a cigarette today,
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it would make me..."
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I said, "Dude,
thank you very much."
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And I went home and laid down.
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My wife got me two
Tylenol and I prayed
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and the pain went
away, so God is good.
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So, prison ministry is
near and dear to my heart
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because there is
no help by locking
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the person away
for x number of years.
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There is no
change available there.
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I got out of prison,
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struggled with drug
addiction for 12 years.
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I went to treatment
and the doctors tell me,
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I need methadone
and I need antabuse.
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I said, "No, dear I don't need."
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I said, "I didn't
come here to get high."
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I threw my narcotics in
the parking lot that night
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at 10 o'clock
walked in the treatment
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and they want to
put a band-aid on me
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when I was fixing to die.
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I kneeled down, and prayed
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and asked God
for help in my life,
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and by God's grace
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this prison ministry
started one year later
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after I committed
my life to Christ.
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And I want people to know,
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I want our viewers to know
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to commit your life to Christ
for me was as simple as saying,
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"Dear Jesus, please help me.
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I want to quit but I can't."
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So it's not some
long drawn out prayer.
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It's a desire for change.
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It says in the Word
of God in Matthew 5:6,
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I think it says,
"Blessed are they that hunger
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and thirst after righteousness:
for they shall be filled."
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So whether they're red,
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yellow, black, or white,
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Christian, Muslim,
atheist, incarcerated,
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we all hurt the same.
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It's terrible.
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It's painful. It's awful.
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And God is the only one
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that can begin to
mend that brokenness
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that sin has created in
our lives since children.
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And I think is great
that you said that it...
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You don't have to
have some long formal,
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oh thou that art,
it's not about that.
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It's about
talking to your friend,
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talking to your friend
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that is the
King of the universe.
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Amen.
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So you can come before
him, you know, and just say,
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"I don't even know
how to talk to you.
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I don't even know
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what to say but
help me, help me.
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Show me what to say."
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And God's Spirit will
begin to help that person
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to pray and open up to
God in a whole new way.
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Amen.
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Harrisburg,
Illinois a few years ago,
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we had a 16-year-old child.
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We were there,
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we were sharing the ministry
of Christmas Behind Bars.
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We gave all the
inmates a gift package,
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and there was this one inmate
in segregation and he said,
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you know, they're just
crying, just crying, he says,
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"I'm tired of the gangs.
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I'm tired of the drugs and
I want change for my life."
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And so he sat on
the picnic table,
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I just kneeled down right there
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and I had prayer
with him and I said,
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"Now you pray,"
16 years old he says,
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" I don't know how to pray."
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I said, "Brother, I
said, Jesus is your friend."
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I said you talk to him
just like your friend."
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You Know, you know
how to ask your mama
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when you want something.
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You know, how to ask your daddy
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when you want some.
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You know how to ask adult man
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when you need
another pile of dope.
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So we know how to speak
and converse to one another
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to convey a message to somebody.
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He's standing at the
door knocking, waiting,
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asking you today, to
come to him just as you are.
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When we come to Christ,
that's called justification.
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You come to him
just in your sins,
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just in your situations,
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whatever it is, no
matter how painful,
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no matter how unmanageable,
no matter how lonely,
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no matter how desperate,
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you just call out to Jesus
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just as you are
and that gives him
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the opportunity to come in
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and be your
attorney to be your friend.
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That's right.
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And we have to invite him. Amen.
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It's different from Satan
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who just barges
in just, you know,
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just does whatever he
will, now Jesus is a gentleman.
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That's right.
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He is going to wait
for you to invite him
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and then once you do,
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he said, "Behold, I
stand at the door and knock."
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I'm knocking at
the door of your heart.
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Amen.
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I'm knocking, now open the door.
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And if you open the door,
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I'll come in and
I'll sup with you,
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I'll come in and share with you.
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We will get to know each other.
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When you eat with
somebody that's an intimate act,
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you know, you're going to
break bread with somebody, eat.
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That's an intimate thing.
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Jesus said, "I'll
come in, I'll sup with you,
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I will give you your
needs, just open the door."
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And so that's what you do
with Christmas Behind Bars.
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You take information,
and you take gifts to inmates
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and you are inviting them
to open the door to Jesus.
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Oh, amen.
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We were in...
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We were in this huge prison,
it wasn't, it was last year,
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we were in this huge prison
and it's a voluntary program
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that inmates come
out to the program,
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they don't have to come so.
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So the chapel
is full of inmates,
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it's a last program
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and I have the
chaplain come up to me
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right before the program started
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and inmates were already seated,
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already started talking to me,
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chaplain come up and
he whispers in my ear,
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he says, "You
got the main Muslim,
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the main Muslim
leader in the whole prison
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in the service here."
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And I'm thinking, "Why
are you telling me that."
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And we talked and
then we did the program,
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we talked, we
closed with prayer.
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All the inmates left
but there were two inmates
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sitting in the
middle of the chapel
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and they come walking up to me
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and the big guy says,
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"Hey, would you
have prayer for my mama,
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she's really sick."
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We go in the back room,
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we kneel down, we had prayer,
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she got cancer and
you know I had prayer for,
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I said, "Lord, we
know you can heal,
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nevertheless not our will."
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And he left,
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chaplain come
running up to me said,
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"What did he
want? What did he want?"
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I said, well, he
wanted to have prayer.
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He said, "That's the guy."
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And I'm thinking, "Wow, Lord,
what a awesome opportunity."
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But the guy left, I said,
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"I'll probably
never meet him again.
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He's gone left."
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And then just a
few weeks ago sister,
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we were in that same prison
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and I'm thinking about this guy,
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I don't know his name.
I don't know his number.
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I don't remember
what he looked like.
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Right.
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Last service in the prison,
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the last day, the last program
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this man came
walking up to me and he said,
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"You probably
don't remember me."
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He said, "But
last year you had."
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I said, "Yes,"
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I said, "I had prayer
with you about your mom."
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I said, "How she doing."
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And he said, "Mama
doing so much better."
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He said, "I'd like you to
have prayer with me this year,
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I'm thinking about
being a Christian."
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Wow.
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So the fruit that was in,
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the seeds that were sown
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begin to produce hope
or a spark in his life
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and now he want to have prayer.
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He's considering
being a Christian
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and so wherever they are,
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we all hurt the same
and Jesus is the answer,
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the common denominator
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for the pain of
sin in our world.
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There's some pictures
that maybe we could show,
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I don't know if we
have time for those.
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Oh, sure.
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Let show them. Okay.
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Tell us what is that?
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This picture here is
actually the cell house,
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where I spent my years in
a maximum security prison,
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and now I'm on the steps of that
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ministering to the inmates,
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so we have opportunity
to go into that prison.
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The next picture here is
just kind of one of the corners
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where I'd see from day to day,
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it looks really,
really rough and it was a,
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it is a maximum security prison,
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it's an old prison.
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But now the next picture
here, this is phenomenal.
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This is actually my wife
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and we're standing
in the guard's hall
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and she would come and
visit me in the prison.
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Every two weeks,
she'd come and visit me.
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She'd send me
letters of encouragement,
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"Don't give up, God loves
you, you're not forgotten."
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So God has brought
up a full circle, amen.
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Yes, amen.
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So, and I know he's kind of done
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some neat things in your life,
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because you come and helped
us at a prison in Indiana.
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And it was such a blessing.
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I loved it,
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it was a women's
prison in Indiana,
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and it was a Christmas program.
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That's right.
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And you had some
other volunteers there,
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and Jason and I went
and we gave our testimonies,
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and I saying...
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Amen.
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And always just such
a beautiful experience,
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I mean really it's...
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for me it waters my
spirit to be able to share
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what Jesus has done
with women that are hungry
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to know what
Jesus can do for them.
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What, how he can
change their lives,
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so it was, it was a
wonderful experience.
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What would you
say to the viewers
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because they've done...?
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When you go to
prison, you made headlines
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and it's for the negative.
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What would you share
with the viewers about
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how these women were
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because they
were like really bad
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supposedly by society standards
to be put in the prison?
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But how did you feel
and sense their spirit?
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Oh, beautiful.
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I mean they look like
they're just regular women.
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I don't mean that
in a pejorative sense,
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in a negative sense,
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I mean that there
wasn't anybody that
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looked like some know,
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raving lunatic or
some terrible criminal.
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They just looked like
women that were incarcerated.
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Women who were broken,
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women who were hurting,
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women who could smile,
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women who would appreciate
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just a word of
encouragement, just a song,
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that can point them to heaven.
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For me it was like,
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it was such a
blessing to be able to share
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what God has done for me
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and know that they were
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so appreciative of receiving it.
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They just, they just
appreciate your being there
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and they're hungry for it.
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They need it.
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One of our friends
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who is also in
prison ministry said,
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"People are either in prison.
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Either they're going
to have Christ or crime."
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Right.
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You pick, as Christians
we want to give them Christ.
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And that's what
you're doing them,
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when you go into
the women's prisons,
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when you go into
the men's prisons,
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you are bringing
them not just literature,
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you're bringing them gifts too.
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And so many times
they don't have any family.
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They have nobody visiting them.
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People have given
up on them, right.
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Absolutely.
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For some this will be
the only visit they get.
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For some they don't
have money on commissary,
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they can't buy
things in the prison,
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and so it's just
a beautiful thing
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through our sponsorship
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of the Christmas
Behind Bars ministry.
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You know we're able to give them
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sometimes
toothbrush, toothpaste,
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soap, shampoo,
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and you know you would think
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that the prison
provides that for them
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and some prisons do,
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but it's called an
indigent toothbrush,
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and so after
you brush your teeth
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about four or five times,
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the bristles are all flat
and it's just of no value.
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So it's just a blessing
to give them tangible gifts,
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and at the same
time let them know
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that there's
hope for their life...
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And these are
things we take for granted.
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That's right.
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You know,
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we take our
toothbrushes for granted.
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That's right.
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We take soap and
deodorant for granted.
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Right.
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And yet these are
things that are so important.
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I want to go back
a bit to the Muslim
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because look at
how God used you...
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Praise God. Yes.
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When you prayed for his mother
and his mother got better.
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So he was able to see
that that prayer was answered,
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that prayer that you prayed
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in the name of
Jesus was answered.
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So now, his heart is softened.
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Now he's open to more,
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he is considering
being a Christian,
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so we want to ask you
viewers to pray for that man,
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pray for him, pray that
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God will continue
to move on his heart,
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to open his heart to
the Gospel of Jesus Christ.
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And more and more
people are like that
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if we can just share this
word with everybody in there.
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I mean my heart just breaks
for those that are incarcerated
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because so many times
they're like throwaways
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Amen.
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And the first year, you know,
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I don't remember him
praying, we prayed together.
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Now just a few weeks ago,
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we kneeled down in the same room
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in the back of
the auditorium there,
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and I prayed and I
said, "Now you pray."
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And he did pray.
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You know, he shared a few words
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and my wife sent
him a study Bible.
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Thanks to our sponsors
that make Bibles possible.
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So now he has a
study Bible and it's just,
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we just leave it
in the Lord's hands,
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so it's a real blessing.
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Amen, amen.
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There's a few more pictures
if we have time for those.
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Yeah, let's get them. Yeah.
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What's that?
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This is secure,
maximum security prison,
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and it's a pick up
truck, we pull a trailer
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and we're delivering packages,
this is at the back gate.
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We should have a
couple more pictures
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of just some prisons.
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This is another prison.
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It just shows
the security is high,
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but on the other hand,
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God is opening
doors in great ways.
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So we can go to many
countries and share the gospel.
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But right here in
our own community,
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and you know, I told my wife,
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it's been a few months ago.
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I told her on
the way to our prison
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very early in the morning.
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I said, "Baby,
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I said, I believe that
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this is one of the
last reachable people groups
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in the United Sates of America,
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" because they're in
prison, they want change,
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but once they out in the world,
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they're thinking
about more foods stamps,
00:15:04.10\00:15:05.43
better job, better wife,
00:15:05.47\00:15:06.80
better car, all
this temporal things,
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but when they are incarcerated,
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they hurt, they feel terrible,
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they feel
rejected, they feel ashamed.
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And we can go in there and say,
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bro, we love you,
it don't matter what.
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It don't matter
your nationality,
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your religious,
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we love you and we
come for all people.
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And that's the
gift of eternal life
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through Jesus Christ,
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he came and died for all people
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that whosoever
that every nation,
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kindred and whosoever,
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looketh, believeth
in him shall be saved.
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So that's the
power of the gospel.
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And if we don't tell them now,
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then they'll die
and they'll perish
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without the plan of salvation.
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So we want to go
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and we appreciate
your support for that.
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What you're doing is just...
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I mean it's just phenomenal
because you're reaching,
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you're doing what Jesus did,
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you reach people
where they are, right.
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And then, you know,
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you move forward
from there, they need,
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they are
hurting, they are alone,
00:16:01.36\00:16:03.02
they are lonely
and you're going in
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and you're showing them
love and that's what Jesus did.
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And I do want to say something,
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there's many different
prison ministries out there
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and we appreciate everyone.
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But a lot of times,
folks would go down to a prison
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and they volunteer their time.
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And so they have
a designated time,
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you come down here
every Monday evening
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or every Friday evening
or every Sabbath morning,
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whatever, you
come down to prison,
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you have a time slot of an hour
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and 30 or 40 peoples
come out of the prison
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out of 2000 that's great.
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So you have a Bible
study with those 30 or 40,
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but with Christmas
Behind Bars when we go in,
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we've a gift
package for the whole 2000,
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the whole 3000,
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the 1700, the 1400,
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so everyone gets
invited to come out.
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And by God's grace
we're able to put the books,
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The Desirer of Ages,
The Great Controversy,
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Steps to Christ
throughout the whole prison,
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and I want to tell
you the fruit of one book,
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in inmate's hands.
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Yes, tell us.
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We're at this county
jail, it's a huge county jail,
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and we're there
with some volunteers.
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It's two stories,
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and I had these
guys look over the range
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and they locked
over and they said,
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"Are you a Sabbath keeper."
00:17:01.98\00:17:03.89
I said, "What you
know about Sabbath?"
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I said, "Hold on,"
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and I went up there
and they got this book.
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The Antichrist Agenda
00:17:08.89\00:17:10.66
by Danny Shelton
and Shelley Quinn,
00:17:10.69\00:17:12.69
and they pulled this
book out and they said,
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we got the truth.
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We understand,
we see what's going.
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I only had a few
minutes with him,
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I said,
"Brothers, you keep seeking."
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And they were great big dudes.
00:17:21.54\00:17:23.64
I said, "You keep
seeking and keep studying.
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I said, God's gonna
use you in a mighty way."
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So one book put into
these people's hands.
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Multitudes of
material going there,
00:17:29.78\00:17:31.75
but one book put
into these people's hands,
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they receive the gospel.
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So if any of the viewers
want to donate a case of books,
00:17:35.62\00:17:38.22
they can call 3ABN.
00:17:38.25\00:17:39.65
They can say donate
Christmas Behind Bars.
00:17:39.69\00:17:41.22
They call 3ABN,
they can donate cases
00:17:41.26\00:17:43.53
and we'll get them into
the prisoner's hand, so...
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That will be tremendous.
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In fact I think we need
to tell them how they can...
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What's your website,
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so that they can go
and donate financially
00:17:50.77\00:17:53.10
or they can find out
00:17:53.13\00:17:55.34
where to send books or whatever?
00:17:55.37\00:17:56.97
What if they want to volunteer?
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That would be a
blessing to have them volunteer,
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they can make cards
00:18:00.28\00:18:01.61
or get involved in
their own jail or prison.
00:18:01.64\00:18:03.11
We'd like to help other
people network and do that.
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So you're all over
the country, right?
00:18:05.61\00:18:08.28
Is your ministry all over?
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Where is it?
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Yeah, Oklahoma, Candes,
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Illinois, Arkansas, Minnesota,
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Georgia, Tennessee,
00:18:15.12\00:18:16.83
new prison
coming up in Tennessee,
00:18:16.86\00:18:18.26
Virginia,
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so wherever the
Lord opens the doors
00:18:19.66\00:18:21.23
and it's through sponsors
that make it possible for us
00:18:21.26\00:18:23.26
to come to their
state or their area.
00:18:23.30\00:18:24.70
So you are 100
percent donor supported.
00:18:24.73\00:18:27.77
100 percent donor supported,
00:18:27.80\00:18:29.24
and we're 100 percent volunteer,
00:18:29.27\00:18:30.61
so we don't get paid a
dime for what we are doing,
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so every dollar that's donated
goes right into the ministry
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so praise the Lord.
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Amen, amen, so
what's your website.
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It is ChristmasBehindBars.org.
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Great.
00:18:40.75\00:18:42.08
ChristmasBehindBars.org
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and they can go online and look
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and get my email
address or calls us
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or whatever that would be great.
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Tell us, give us a
couple of stories of how
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Christmas Behind
Bars has impacted inmates?
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Well, there was one
lady in the county jail.
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And someone had told
her about the Sabbath.
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She got locked up,
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she is in this pod
with 10, 15, 20 girls
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and someone told
her about the Sabbath.
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Said, yeah, yeah whatever.
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She did something really bad
and she got put in segregation.
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So she goes to segregation...
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Explain segregation
to those who don't know.
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Segregation means you
can't function in the pack.
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You've got to go
into this little room
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by yourself with nobody.
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You don't get
anything, any privileges,
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all your stuff is taken away
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so you're in
solitary confinement
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with a bed, a toilet,
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and your meals come
through this little slot,
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no communication with nobody.
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So she got moved from the
pod, was told about the Sabbath,
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gets put in segregation lockdown
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and was written on the wall
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about the Sabbath is
the Seventh-day of the week
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was written on the wall.
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So she's icon
it, she heard this.
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Now she sees it and in her bag,
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she got the Ten
Commandments Twice Removed.
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She wrote a letter said,
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"I now know that the Sabbath
is the seventh day of the week
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and that's Saturday.
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So praise the Lord.
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So, so little
things are going forward
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and that we don't even,
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you know, we
don't know about it.
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There have been
baptisms, you know,
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people make
commitments to Christ.
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Many study Bibles have
went out and so it's just,
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it's just phenomenal,
it's a great blessing.
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That is so great.
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Did you bring more pictures?
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Do we have more
pictures or was that it?
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We have a picture that's really,
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a really solemn picture,
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it's near and dear to my heart
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and we'll look at
that picture right now.
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This picture here is
what happens to people
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when they die in prison
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if they don't
have any family members
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to come and claim their body.
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So it's a graveyard,
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a cemetery outside the prison
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and all these
tombstones represent somebody
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that didn't have nobody,
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but if we can just
connect them with Christ
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during their
time of incarceration
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and if Jesus be for
them, who can be against them.
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So if God be for us,
who can be against us?
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And so, we want to give
them the everlasting gospel.
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We want to let them know
there's pardon and forgiveness
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before they're laid to rest.
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Because so many times,
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we go to, we go to memorials,
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and we go to funerals
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and the pastor says
all these good words over,
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"Billy Bob that died with a
nine millimeter in his hand,
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a pocket full of dope,
doesn't kill somebody."
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And the pastor wants to
say, he's in heaven now.
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It don't go that
way, is today in this life
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that will
prepare for the judgment.
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You know we were
at the hospital ward
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not so long ago,
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and this, I went
in the cancer unit
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and there were three
individuals laying in the beds
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and they were
all very, very sick.
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The first guy, I
began to tell about Jesus
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and the guy said,
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"Oh, I read my Bible
every day for half hour."
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But the programs
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he was watching was all the sex
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and the drugs and the drama
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that you see on Main Street
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and I just, there's
nothing I could say.
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He reads his Bible
but that's his choice.
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Second guy, I walked up to
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and he looked like he should
be in a concentration camp.
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His body had wasted
away, he couldn't talk
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and what do you say to a man
that you've never met before,
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and I just open the Word of God
and I begin to read Psalms 23
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and I said, "The
Lord is my shepherd,
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" I was right there by his bed.
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And I said, "The
Lord is my shepherd,
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I shall not want."
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And something
inspired me to ask him,
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"Is the Lord your shepherd?"
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And he shook his
head and he begin to cry
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and then I begin
to tell him that,
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"Yea, thou we
walk through the valley
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of the shadow of death,
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and surely
goodness and mercy..."
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and he couldn't even talk
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and I don't know
what decision he made
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but as we prayed
he clung to my hand.
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And I know that there was
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something more
positive than what he had.
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And so, we may never meet
these people on this earth,
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but girl, I look forward
throughout eternity to looking,
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speaking with the
rejected in this society,
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in this life
throughout eternity with Jesus.
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Yes, brother, you
know, as you were talking...
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First of all the pictures
of those graves, you know,
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when you think about
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people going to the grave
without knowing about Christ.
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See I think, we think that
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everybody knows about Jesus.
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No, they don't.
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Everybody
doesn't know about Jesus.
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We have to take
Jesus to them. Amen.
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And even if they die,
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even if they're
buried in that cemetery,
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they die in the Lord.
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They'll be
resurrected in the Lord.
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They'll be resurrected in
Him and have eternity with Him.
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So to me it's
like, it's a no-brainer.
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We have to get the
word into the prisons.
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They are a captive
audience so to speak so,
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they have time to study,
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they have time to
learn about Jesus,
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and really, I mean
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not only is it
helping them spiritually,
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it's helping us socially
because when they come out,
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they are changed people
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if they've gotten
converted in prison.
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So now, we
won't have recidivism.
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We won't have the
same burden on society.
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I mean it's like what.
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it's like what is
there to think about?
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We need to get the word in
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and everybody can't go
into the prisons themselves,
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but that's why we
have programs like
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Christmas Behind Bars
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where you're doing the work,
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you got
volunteers to do the work,
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and if people want
to volunteer they can,
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but you still are handling that,
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we should support you in that.
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Amen.
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Well, thank you very
much. We should support you.
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I had a guy that
got out of prison,
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he got a book, he got a packet
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when he was in the county jail,
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he begin to
understand reading the Bible
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and he got the phonebook out
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and he looked up at
Seventh-day Adventist Church
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and he started sending
tithe to the Adventist church.
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He got out, he
joined the church,
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he was baptized,
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the church want to have
a revival in the community.
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And he said,
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"Before we can have a
revival in the community,
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we need to have a
revival in the church."
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Oh, wow.
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And so this man
was willing to read
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and study the Bible with him
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after potluck and after church
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and we do need a
revival in the church.
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And as we are in active service,
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it may not be prison ministry.
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We are in active
service for your neighbor,
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babysitting for
your neighbor's children
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and helping out,
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active service
is what God wants us
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to evangelize the world
through one heart at a time.
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So prison ministry is valuable,
near and dear to my heart
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because I was there,
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I appreciate your
support for prison ministries.
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But active
service wherever they are
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and if they'd like to
help, help the prisoners.
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You know they can sponsor
us at Christmas Behind Bars.
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Yes.
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That is awesome.
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How does your wife feel
about Christmas Behind Bars?
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I know that it's
super important to you
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because you had that experience.
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How does she feel about it?
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How much time do we have?
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Got about two
minutes. Two minutes.
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Well, my wife
visited me every two weeks
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in the visiting room
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so she understands
the family side of it
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before we were married.
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Got out of prison,
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we got married
about nine months later
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and I wanted to
do what was right,
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but I was powerless
because I didn't have Christ
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in my daily as my focal point.
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So for the next 12
years of our marriage,
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I struggled with addiction.
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She went through a lot of
painful moments in her life,
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weeks, months in her life.
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But when I gave
my heart to Christ,
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she was so grateful
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and now to work for the
incarcerated is phenomenal,
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to write the letters
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that she once
wrote to me to encourage,
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"Don't give up.
You're not forgotten."
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So the letter writing ministry
and in every aspect of it
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and the ministry grew,
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it started one year
with a jail of 350 inmates,
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then it went to
400, 500, 600, 700
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that was about
3000 inmates a year.
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It would always finish
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at Christmas time but Christmas,
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you can't do them all so
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it would be October, November,
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December, September, October
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and she said, "We
can't grow no more.
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3000, 5000, we
can't grow no more."
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And finally, she said,
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"You know, I just
left it up to the Lord."
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So, so now I guess
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it's probably
40, 50, 000 inmates
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that are visited a
year through our sponsors
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that make it possible
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and the Lord
keeps the doors open,
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so it's phenomenal.
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40 to 50,000.
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Three years
ago, three years ago,
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we had the privilege
of visiting every inmate
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in the state of Virginia
and that was 30,000 inmates.
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Every inmate in
the state of Virginia
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received the package
from Christmas Behind Bars,
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a devotional book, material,
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that they could
send for Bible studies
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and so it's just phenomenal that
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and it's run on
a volunteer basis,
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all the people at the warehouse.
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Most of them
have gotten packages,
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most of them been incarcerated
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and they come
every day to help out
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and volunteer their time
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because they know
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the value that
was given to them.
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How beautiful is that.
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And there's no gift
that's too small, right.
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No, no.
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Somebody might
watching might say,
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"Oh, I only have $5 on my desk."
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We get brand new Bibles
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from Remnant Publication for $3,
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the red letters edition,
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they have some
study helps in the back.
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So $3 is,
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is and if you can only
give a buck and a half,
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two buck and a half
make makes a Bible, amen.
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So, absolutely.
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Amen. Amen.
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Well, thank you
so much, brother,
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'cause what you're doing.
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It's you are changing lives
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under the power
of the Holy Spirit...
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Praise God.
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And we give God the praise.
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He is using you to change lives.
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Thank you so much.
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Oh, God bless you,
girl. For being with.
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God bless you and continue to do
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what you're doing
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'cause we
really, really need you
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and what you're doing and Dona,
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give her a hug from me too.
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All right.
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Well, we've reached the end
of another program, you know,
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we really need
for you to support
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Christmas Behind Bars.
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Send any amount,
any amount to them,
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go to the website,
you can donate from there.
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But do something,
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even if you can't
go to prison yourself,
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you can send
something to this program
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and make a difference for them.
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I can't believe our time is up.
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Whenever Lemuel is
here, it is just...
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We can just go on and on.
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But may God bless you,
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may He richly bless you
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as you continue to serve
Him and join us next time,
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because you know what,
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it just wouldn't be
the same without you.
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