Stay tuned to meet one of the
coolest mentors on the Planet.
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My name is Yvonne Lewis
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and you're
watching Urban Report.
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Hello and
Welcome to Urban Report.
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One of my favorite
people is Cheri Peters.
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Jason and I were debating
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which one of us was
going to interview her
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so we decided to do it
together, we had a blast!
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Take a look.
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We are so
thrilled to be on the Set
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with my dear
friend, Cheri Peters,
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Jason, is this not
of the bomb right here?
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Wonderful, wonderful.
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And we've never
done this on this Set.
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Yvonne: I know.
Cheri: I am excited.
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I am too, I am too, because
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I was thinking, "Man! I
can't wait to interview Cheri...
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Jason was going to do it because
I had another interview to do
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and I thought, "Ah
ha, I've got to be here
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with Jason to talk to my girl. "
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And what I've to say,
Jason, with you... and...
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is... I've seen you kind
of stand up over the years
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and I... I just think you are...
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you are amazing,
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I think the way you
have passion for God
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and the way you've
kind of stood in that place
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and kind of... sat
right in this seat,
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good job!
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Oh! praise the Lord and we
had to come to a compromise
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because we were
trying to figure out
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who was going to interview you
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and I was
determined to interview you
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so, we decided
that we'd do it together
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but thank you so much for that.
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God is amazing and
He's been working in my life
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as well as...
He's worked in yours
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and several other
people that you've mentored...
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several of the thousands of
people that you've mentored.
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And our passion... this year...
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we have really stepped
out... we've done a lot
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like going into
prisons and going into rehabs
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and working in
people's lives and families
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and addicts trying to
stand up, crazy hours...
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I remember how
crazy we can be and so...
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we've done that
forever and all of a sudden...
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and you know...
I've gotten cancer
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and all that kind of stuff and
things are slowing down a bit
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and I'm like,
"God, what do we do
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and I don't know
how to slow down"
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and I started having
the most brilliant people
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in front of me, like you,
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that were just starting
out and they have such passion
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and such a... something to say
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and I thought,
"What if I could help them
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to say what they need to say?
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Not what I need to
say in a different voice
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but what they need to
say" and all of a sudden,
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I just got goosebumps,
I just thought, "No way!"
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So, this is like a
shift in your ministry.
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A huge shift.
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Tell us what you
were doing before
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and now... what you're doing...
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what was the focus before?
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The focus before was going out
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and really kind
of convincing people,
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for one... to look at
addictions differently,
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because we're all
struggling with something
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and to be easier on ourselves,
to do our own recovery,
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to step in and find out what
does the blood of Christ mean,
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what does it mean for healing,
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what does it mean that the joy
of the Lord is your strength,
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what does it mean that
"God is going to get us home?"
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So it was really
focused on our own recovery.
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Now, as you were coming
up and as you were struggling
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with your own addiction,
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did you have
somebody that mentored you?
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Did you have somebody
that reached out and helped you
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when you were going through it?
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You know what I want to say
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for anybody that
walked alongside of me
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or knew me at that time,
this is not a slam, but no...
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one time, I could remember
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standing in front of a
church, it was pathetic
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because I was a
wreck, strung out on heroin,
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I could barely read... I'm
trying to figure out who I am
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I feel like God called me,
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I'm calling
everybody on the planet
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to try to get to hire
me and stuff like that
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and I stood in front of a
church with about 300 people,
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and I said, "I need a mentor"
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and people looked at me
like I was from another planet,
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it was like, "What?"
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and I thought, "I need
an Accountability Partner"
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and I need a mentor, I
need someone to spiritually...
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"Man, if I'm screaming and not
sure where to put my next steps"
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somebody that
says, "Step here, right?"
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And at first, I saw the reaction
that... I didn't get a response,
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then I asked the
Pastor's wife about a week later
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and she said, "I'll
have to pray about it"
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and about a month later,
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I called her and
said, "Have you prayed,
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are you on your
knees right now?"
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And she said, "No" to me,
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about a year after
that, what she said to me
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is, "I was afraid to say, 'Yes,'
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because I was struggling
and I though you would see it. "
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Hmmm...
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So, even when I
found out along the way
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that we are afraid to
let people close to us
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because we're
trying to be perfect,
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we're trying to be all that
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and we don't want someone to
know that we're not all that.
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So, what if we
just loved each other
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and we didn't
have to worry about...
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my next growth or
am I perfect enough?
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Or am I okay to
be in this position?
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I'll just give you what I have
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and if it's not enough,
get something from someone else
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and something
from somewhere else,
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but I cannot... not
say... "What do you need?"
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Yeah, and I think it's important
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for anybody who's
going to mentor someone,
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to consider that, "I
can only give what I have"
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but, we can give what we have,
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like, so often, I
think about all of these kids
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that need someone
to "pour" into them,
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someone to pour into their lives
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and nobody is doing it.
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Yeah, and hold up,
Yvonne, on the "kids' thing"
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when I showed up today
and you have always loved me,
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I mean, every
time I turn around,
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when you say something to me,
I know that you've stopped...
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you've seen me
and you've said it.
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But today, you
even got me something
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because you thought,
"Oh, she's going to love this"
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it's a little
Blaney shirt that I love
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so even when we're
speaking to each other's lives
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on a friendship
level, I walk away stronger
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because I see you... see me
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and so it's not...
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it's not just that
we're talking to kids,
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we're talking to each other,
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we're talking to
somebody that's 75
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and they think they
have nothing to give,
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the other day, I
ended up at someone's house
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who was teaching me a
little bit of crocheting,
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because I knew that
that's what she could give me
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and we were doing
healing just with that.
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So, we've got to reach
out and God told me that
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we have in our
Denomination alone,
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and we are in a Denomination
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and so we work in a
lot of different places,
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but in my Denomination,
I'm Seventh-day Adventist
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there are 78,000 churches,
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18-point-something
million people,
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and He said, "What
if, two or three people
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in every church just
stood up, in their own talents
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and what if you got to
be a little part of that?"
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And I'm like, "Shut up,"
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and all of a sudden,
somebody speaks into your life
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and you literally get to speak
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into the lives
of all these folks
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when that person walks
away, that church is different
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and so, I think that
"mentoring thing" for me is...
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I'm very serious, what
kinds of tools can we do?
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Even on our website,
we're dropping content in,
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we're doing online
seminars, we're saying,
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"If you need
anything, send me an email,
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I'll do a video blog on it,
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if you want to do
a Q and A with people
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from all over the
world that are doing
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what you're doing and
we can talk to each other
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I'll set that up"
and so we really are
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intentionally
saying, "What can we do?"
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So you're kind
of brokering then,
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kind of a resource
liaison for other mentors
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to come in and do that as
well? Is that what you're doing?
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Absolutely, other mentors...
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or if you click on
this button over here
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it's somebody in recovery
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that just needs
to know about anger
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or sexual
addiction or how to parent
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and if I need to grab someone
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like, if I said, "You know what?
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Can you talk to these guys?"
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I'll grab him and
do a little interview
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or have him
send me a little clip
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and so it's a
"digital mall" kind of thing.
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Yvonne: Ooooh, I love it.
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That I'm literally going
to send them to this mall
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and I can click through
whatever I need to click through
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and if it is somebody
that's doing ministry,
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man! let's equip you,
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but if it's somebody that's new
in their walk, let's equip you,
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if it's a parent saying,
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"My kids are out of
control," let's equip them,
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if it's a kid out of
control, let's talk to them
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and so it's just...
just allowing the content
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and what do you need from us?
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That's brilliant and I think
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what I love so
much about your program
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and the fact
that you're mentoring
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is that you're
open and transparent
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and I think that's
something that's been missing
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for so long, because,
I mean, how can people
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truly get help if everybody
is trying to put on that facade
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and everybody is
trying to put on that front
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like they're perfect and
nothing's wrong with them
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and they put on that holy
face when they go to church
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but people are struggling
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and people are
struggling with addiction
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and all kinds of
issues so, in your program,
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and you're reaching
out and mentoring others
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is wonderful.
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To me, what I love
about it, even men and women
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that are being
raised up like your age,
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you're just saying,
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"You know, don't
play me right now,
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I don't want what you've read...
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I want what
you've lived through,
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I want to know that I have
something that I can hold on to"
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and so if we are truly at the
end of the great controversy,
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this is not a
time to put a mask on,
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this is the time to
take every mask off.
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You know, how did God
get you to surrender that?
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When you say,
"God search my heart,"
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don't you shake a bit?
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"Search my heart
but do it easy... "
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you know what I mean?
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Jason: Be gentle.
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And so, when you
talk to somebody,
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you want to say, "I
have a God that... that...
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that jokes with me,
that tells me jokes,"
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It was really
crazy the other day,
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I'm struggling more
than I have struggled,
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things are falling apart,
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I was in the hospital
with a subdural hemorrhage
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with... being
introduced to a neurosurgeon
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after being balked off
a horse and I'm like...
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I can't even
hardly remember my name,
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it was that kind of an injury
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and so, I'm thinking,
"God, I'm afraid," right?
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And somebody in that time...
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because I think the
enemy is very strategic
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in what he offers you,
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but somebody in that time,
offered me... almost the moon...
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you know, "I'm here,
I'll give you this...
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we love you,
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you'll never have to
worry about a dime again"
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and we worry about
gas money half the time
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so, that... I mean...
everything about it was good,
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but he's a player,
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and I realized
that I am being played
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and that it's not real
and so I had to turn that down
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and I just
thought... and I cried...
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I'm sitting there
and I'm just crying
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and I'm not a
crier... and I said, "God... "
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and I heard this
song in the background,
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you're going to die...
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if you know the song,
just sing it with me...
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I heard this song,
"Save the last dance for me...
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don't forget
who's taking you home,
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and in whose arms
you're gonna be... "
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and I heard, God Himself say,
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"I know that's a secular song
but I'm singing that to you,
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don't be seduced into
all kinds of crazy stuff,
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don't even be
seduced by your own life,
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save the last dance for
me, I'm going to get you home,
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and I love you,
don't you know I love you?"
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and I just smiled
because I thought,
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"I want someone to
know that that's who God is,
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He's very real,
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He'll talk to us in whatever
way you need to be talked to
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that He needs to talk
to us, He will heal us
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from whatever lies that
we are even telling ourselves
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He said, 'I'll get
you through all that'
00:11:13.03\00:11:14.67
but you got to know,
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'I don't want
you to put a mask on,
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I don't want you to
pretend you're something else,
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I want you to be
yourself and when you stand up,
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I want you to
stand up... smiling...
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and tell someone about it. '"
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Yeah, He's a personal God,
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He didn't just
set it and forget it,
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"Here, I created it,
you go live your lives,
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He cares about every
aspect of our lives...
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that's so important. "
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You know, when you were saying
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about how God speaks to you,
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God is... that personal God,
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he doesn't say that we
won't go through things,
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what He said... the Bible says,
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"When you pass through the fire,
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when you pass
through the rivers,
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you're going to
pass through things,
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but when you do,
I'm there with you,
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I've got your back,
I'm never leaving you,"
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and so, our God is
faithful and He's there
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and what you're
doing with the mentoring
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is so critical because
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you are showing what Jesus did.
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You meet people at
their point of need,
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that lady... crocheted...
that's what she did...
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and you sat down
and did that with her,
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and see... that's what
I think Jesus would do.
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She had tears in her eyes
as she was showing me a stitch
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and I just wanted to thank
God that He gave us this moment,
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we don't even know how...
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we don't even know
each other's language,
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right, but if she
has tears in her eyes,
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then I'm saying,
"God, how cool are you?"
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Yvonne: Hmmm... hmmm...
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You've preached a
sermon on restoration
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and you've shared a powerful,
powerful story and testimony
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of when you went
to someone's house,
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those two brothers,
touch on that a little bit.
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You know, it's
really interesting
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because I believe that
God can restore any of us
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so this girl I
meet six years earlier
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gets saved, she's
a heroin addict...
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and heroin... and if
you're a heroin addict,
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man! it's going to be
tough but you'll make it
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but she's strung out
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and she detoxes and she's clean
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and she just
says, "You know what?
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One day, I pray that
Cheri will meet my brothers,
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both of them are strung
out, one just got out of prison
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they have kids and one of
their partners is pregnant
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and they're slamming
heroin through the pregnancy
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I mean... it's just crazy... "
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and so she
says... while I'm in town,
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and she says, "You
know, I'd prayed this one time
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that you'd meet my brothers,"
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and I said, "Today's my day off
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so, how about today?
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Tell them that I
want to come to lunch. "
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So, we're talking
about a druggie's house
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I'm the Evangelist in town
and she's going to come to lunch
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I mean, they don't set china,
let me just say that, right?
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And so, she calls them
and for whatever reason
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they say, "Yes,
but she has one hour,
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at the end of the hour,
I want her out of here. "
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So, I go in there, I
know I have one hour,
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we start to eat a little
bit, I don't have a lot of time,
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so I look at
the brother and say,
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"You know, I'm a
heroin addict in recovery,
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I've been clean for
35 years, right... "
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And he's like,
"Man! yeah, I know... "
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and na... na... na... na...
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and we start
talking and he says,
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"I'd love to say that...
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but I'm still using"
00:14:04.87\00:14:06.98
I said, "So, these are
your two kids out here?"
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And they said, "Yeah... "
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and they're beautiful...
like, little kids...
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and I said, "Pick
one of these two kids
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that you'd like to bury,
which one would you bury?"
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Wow! Wow...
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And he's looked at me like...
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"No, I'm not picking one,"
00:14:21.26\00:14:22.66
I said, you get
lost in your addiction,
00:14:22.69\00:14:24.66
you don't have a choice, it
may not be you that gets hit,
00:14:24.69\00:14:28.70
but you may bury
one of these kids
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and you will bury
them in their addiction
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and I've just lived that
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through people that I've worked
with... over and over and over,"
00:14:34.34\00:14:36.44
and he says,
"I'm not picking one"
00:14:36.47\00:14:38.07
and we started
talking and he seriously said
00:14:38.11\00:14:40.34
"I just want to be clean,
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I just want to be well,"
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and by the end of
that... the first 40 minutes...
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It's like we said, you know...
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"Can I pray for
you, can I anoint you?
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Because it's going
to be really tough,
00:14:52.35\00:14:54.16
you're going to
need God, Himself,
00:14:54.22\00:14:55.76
as an Accountability Partner. "
00:14:55.79\00:14:57.29
We walk in the Living Room
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and he's like, "I
don't even know what to do"
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and I said, "We're going to pray
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that God, Himself will
just step into your life
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and help you with this journey,"
00:15:05.53\00:15:06.87
and I said, "Should we
stand up or kneel down?"
00:15:06.94\00:15:08.97
And he's like, "What?"
00:15:09.00\00:15:10.51
I said, "Should
we stand or kneel?
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We're going to the God
00:15:12.67\00:15:14.01
that spoke the
universe into existence,
00:15:14.08\00:15:15.61
and you're going to ask Him to
be your Accountability Partner
00:15:15.64\00:15:19.31
we're going to
ask Him to detox you,
00:15:19.38\00:15:21.05
we're going to ask
Him to save your kids.
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Should we stand or kneel?"
00:15:23.52\00:15:24.99
And the guy is like...
"Well, I think we should kneel"
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I think we should too and
pretty soon we are on the ground
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anointing this beautiful guy
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with his kids there
00:15:37.47\00:15:38.93
and his partner there
and everybody's looking
00:15:38.97\00:15:41.07
in this drug house where
everybody is slamming heroin
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and I am thinking,
00:15:44.11\00:15:45.44
"God, there is no place
you won't go to reach us. "
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Yes, yes.
00:15:48.68\00:15:50.01
And to me
restoration in his life,
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he went to every
single one of our meetings,
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he is clean to this day,
00:15:53.21\00:15:54.55
he is really
turning his life around
00:15:54.58\00:15:56.22
and his brother
just got out of prison
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he said, "What about me?
What about praying for me?"
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But it was... to me,
what I'm thinking is,
00:16:00.32\00:16:02.86
all this silliness that we have
about how to teach the Bible
00:16:02.89\00:16:06.29
or how to teach about
God or how to equip people,
00:16:06.33\00:16:08.43
I think we have
to throw that away,
00:16:08.46\00:16:09.90
spend time, mentor
people, speak into their lives
00:16:09.93\00:16:13.84
and I'm in a jail a
few weeks ago, right?
00:16:13.87\00:16:16.74
so I'm in a
jail... Yvonne: Visiting...
00:16:16.81\00:16:20.11
Visiting... thanks
for clarifying that...
00:16:20.18\00:16:23.45
they invite me in as a Speaker,
00:16:23.48\00:16:26.48
they give me two full
days to do seminars... in jail,
00:16:26.51\00:16:30.29
they never do
that, it's ridiculous,
00:16:30.32\00:16:32.59
Two full days?
00:16:32.62\00:16:34.19
Two full days,
so now, I'm going in
00:16:34.26\00:16:36.73
I'm in a... I'm
in a... they've used,
00:16:36.76\00:16:39.19
"Miracles From the
Streets" the book I wrote
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as part of their book club
00:16:40.96\00:16:42.33
then they invited
me in as a Speaker
00:16:42.36\00:16:43.73
and now I'm doing the
Seminars and I'm thinking,
00:16:43.77\00:16:45.77
"Okay... Am I
mentoring right now?
00:16:45.80\00:16:48.10
one of these women... which one?
00:16:48.14\00:16:50.37
Because when I leave,
she can stay and teach. "
00:16:50.41\00:16:52.41
Hmmm... Hmmm...
00:16:52.44\00:16:53.98
"So, I'm not
going in just to say,
00:16:54.04\00:16:55.41
'this is what forgiveness is'
or 'this is what recovery is'
00:16:55.48\00:16:59.48
'this is who God is,'
even though I say all of that,
00:16:59.51\00:17:01.85
I'm going in to
say, 'which one?'
00:17:01.88\00:17:04.02
'Which one?'"
00:17:04.05\00:17:05.55
Wow! and expecting
that God will let you know
00:17:05.59\00:17:08.52
which one you're to
pour into in particular.
00:17:08.56\00:17:11.49
Absolutely, you
know which one it was?
00:17:11.53\00:17:12.86
The Guard came in and said,
00:17:12.89\00:17:14.20
"See this girl right here?
If she says one word to you,
00:17:14.23\00:17:18.40
one word... she's out of here. "
00:17:18.43\00:17:20.77
And I thought,
"Oh! so it's that one. "
00:17:20.84\00:17:22.77
She is a troublemaker,
she divides everybody,
00:17:22.84\00:17:27.58
she is horrible
and so I went up to her
00:17:27.61\00:17:30.08
in the story... I
grabbed her by the throat,
00:17:30.15\00:17:32.08
picked her up off the
chair, threw her on the chair
00:17:32.11\00:17:34.92
and said, "I just
couldn't take it,"
00:17:34.95\00:17:37.09
It was horrible...
na, na, na, na, na,
00:17:37.12\00:17:39.19
and she's like, "Did
you put your hand on me?"
00:17:39.22\00:17:41.92
She's looking at me
like trying to figure out...
00:17:41.96\00:17:44.63
whether she's
going to come at me,
00:17:44.66\00:17:46.16
but instead, she said,
"You know, I like you. "
00:17:46.19\00:17:49.33
Now all the
other girls can listen
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and I spoke to
her until she was...
00:17:52.13\00:17:54.50
the next day
she started sobbing,
00:17:54.54\00:17:56.87
saying, "I don't know how to
forgive people, I am so angry,
00:17:56.91\00:18:00.31
my life has been so trash,
00:18:00.34\00:18:02.64
I have been in and
out of jail my whole life
00:18:02.68\00:18:04.88
and you're saying for me to
forgive and give it to God...
00:18:04.91\00:18:08.45
surrender it, I cannot,"
00:18:08.48\00:18:10.42
and I got on my
knees and cried with her
00:18:10.45\00:18:12.99
and I said, "If you don't,
00:18:13.02\00:18:14.76
you will be in
bondage your whole life,
00:18:14.82\00:18:18.03
I beg you... give God a
chance, give Him this...
00:18:18.06\00:18:20.63
you're not saying
that it was right or wrong,
00:18:20.66\00:18:23.10
you're just saying,
'I'm done carrying it. '"
00:18:23.13\00:18:24.83
And she sobbed, "I'm done. "
00:18:24.87\00:18:28.10
We did an anointing,
00:18:28.14\00:18:29.47
I was just going to
really do an anointing
00:18:29.50\00:18:31.01
for her sake but when I
brought the Chaplain in,
00:18:31.04\00:18:33.98
we anointed 25 women
00:18:34.01\00:18:35.84
but the one that we spoke
into their life as a "Mentor,"
00:18:35.88\00:18:40.12
was this woman... Jason: Wow!
00:18:40.15\00:18:41.82
Cheri: This woman,
she'll teach when we leave.
00:18:41.85\00:18:43.79
She's the one that is
going to kind of carry the ball
00:18:43.82\00:18:47.66
after you've gone.
00:18:47.69\00:18:49.02
What's interesting to me
is, you're not just going there
00:18:49.06\00:18:53.16
just to speak a
word and then leave,
00:18:53.19\00:18:55.10
no, you wanted replication.
00:18:55.13\00:18:57.03
Cheri: Rise... raise
them up... Yvonne: Yes.
00:18:57.07\00:18:59.23
Change their
lives, let them be...
00:18:59.27\00:19:01.34
right now, like... even for
her, she goes back in her room,
00:19:01.37\00:19:05.04
she's talking to God Himself,
the Holy Spirit Himself,
00:19:05.07\00:19:07.98
God is going to tell her
everything that she says next.
00:19:08.01\00:19:10.88
She can speak words
that I will never say,
00:19:10.91\00:19:13.01
you know, there
are people that even...
00:19:13.05\00:19:14.88
even in my life, there are...
00:19:14.95\00:19:16.32
you're like... Jason,
you can't be in my skin,
00:19:16.35\00:19:18.15
I can't be in your skin
but when the Holy Spirit says,
00:19:18.19\00:19:21.36
"Jason, say this," right...
00:19:21.39\00:19:23.06
and she'll say stuff
that I just don't know,
00:19:23.09\00:19:25.63
she'll changes lives that
I don't... that I can't do,
00:19:25.66\00:19:28.86
she's behind bars 24... 7...
00:19:28.90\00:19:31.20
for the next,
probably 20 to 30 years,
00:19:31.23\00:19:35.10
her ministry is
going to be speaking
00:19:35.14\00:19:38.84
into the lives of these woman
00:19:38.87\00:19:40.21
and so, it's like, you know...
00:19:40.28\00:19:41.61
as a Christian, we're
not here just to teach,
00:19:41.64\00:19:44.25
we're here to love, mentor
00:19:44.28\00:19:46.38
and equip other
people, disciple them.
00:19:46.41\00:19:49.55
That's the word,
that's exactly what... yeah...
00:19:49.58\00:19:52.85
And that's so important because
even in the secular world
00:19:52.92\00:19:55.36
and in the work place,
00:19:55.39\00:19:56.73
great leaders
create other great leaders,
00:19:56.76\00:19:58.83
you don't want
to just be a Leader
00:19:58.86\00:20:00.96
and have a bunch of people...
00:20:00.96\00:20:02.30
you want people to come take
your job so you can move up.
00:20:02.33\00:20:04.70
and I think that is...
that's very, very important.
00:20:04.73\00:20:07.90
And even as a Christian, I
love when you say, "move up"
00:20:07.94\00:20:10.51
you know what God said to me,
00:20:10.57\00:20:12.07
I'm trying to...
I'm whining about...
00:20:12.11\00:20:14.14
"I don't have this
and I don't have this
00:20:14.18\00:20:16.24
and I'm afraid and do
I just go and get a job"
00:20:16.28\00:20:19.08
and God just
tolerates me when I whine,
00:20:19.11\00:20:21.85
but, He says,
00:20:21.88\00:20:24.15
"Cheri, do you
remember what I promised you
00:20:24.19\00:20:26.29
when I saved you?"
00:20:26.32\00:20:27.66
"Did you remember
when we first met,
00:20:27.69\00:20:29.62
what did I promise you?"
00:20:29.66\00:20:30.99
And I thought... I thought,
"What did He promise me?"
00:20:31.03\00:20:33.56
And He said,
00:20:33.60\00:20:34.93
"I promised that
I'd get you home. "
00:20:34.96\00:20:36.30
Hmmm... Hmmm.
00:20:36.33\00:20:38.13
"I didn't promise you gas
money" you know what I mean?
00:20:38.17\00:20:41.04
"I promised to get... "
and all of a sudden I thought,
00:20:41.07\00:20:43.94
"All this
silliness that I was doing
00:20:43.97\00:20:45.94
like... you know, the
ministry needs to grow,
00:20:45.97\00:20:48.08
I need to feed the
horses, I need gas money,
00:20:48.11\00:20:50.21
I need all that kind of stuff,
00:20:50.28\00:20:51.78
I need to wear clothes
00:20:51.81\00:20:53.15
when I'm on these Sets
with you guys, you know,
00:20:53.18\00:20:54.75
and, and, and,
and... " but He said,
00:20:54.78\00:20:56.48
"I didn't
promise you any of that,
00:20:56.52\00:20:58.09
I promised to get you home,"
00:20:58.12\00:20:59.45
and I thought, "You
know what? That is enough,
00:20:59.49\00:21:01.16
I follow you because you're God
00:21:01.19\00:21:03.19
and we're going
home, everything else,
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I'm just going to ask you daily,
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what do you
want me to do today?"
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And I don't
even want to step up,
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you know, when you
step in your rightful place,
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I'm going to step
aside, this is your turn.
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Hmmm... you are
doing what Jesus did
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which is to meet
people at their point of need,
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to pour into their lives
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and then to give them
the tools that they need
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to continue in that path,
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that's what
Jesus wants us to do.
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Jason: Practical Christianity.
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It's practical
Christianity, exactly, exactly,
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how many people are
involved in your ministry,
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and we need to
put your website up
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so that people can
know how to reach you.
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What's your...
give us your website.
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Truestep. org
and on the website,
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if you need
anything that's not there,
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just text me or e-mail me
because we'll put it there
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and it depends
on... when somebody says,
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"How many people are involved?"
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I don't get paid half the
time and so I don't pay anyone
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so it just depends on
who is going to stick it out.
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So if you are a
Graphic Designer,
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Videographer or if you
want to volunteer anything,
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we are always looking
for someone with gifts
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because the only
thing I know is that,
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"It is time to be real. "
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I came into my Christianity
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and I know that you
guys can relate to this
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but I came into my
Christianity and looked around
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and I thought, "Oh
man, I can't just be myself,
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because it's not enough," right?
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So I tried to be everything
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that I thought a
good Christian would be,
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I had a picture of what that
was and all that kind of stuff
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and I realized that
ten years down the road,
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"I can't do this"
I'm screaming at God,
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"I can't do this, I
feel like I'm dying,
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I'm just going to be myself
and I'm really angry about it,"
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and He said, "Good,
because I so missed you"
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so, He doesn't want us to
be anything but who we are.
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That's right,
there is nobody else,
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nobody on the planet
that can do it like you can.
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We're all...
we're like snowflakes,
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everything is... fingerprints...
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everyone is individual
and we're in this big mosaic
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are we are so...
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it's this big
tapestry... and a big puzzle
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and each of us has
a place in that puzzle
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and nobody can take your place.
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And it also goes back to like...
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what you were saying
about mentoring... earlier...
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there are all kinds
of different people,
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one lady could help you with the
crocheting and all that stuff
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and someone who's been
through heroin addiction
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or marijuana
addiction or pornography
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or religious addiction
or any type of addiction...
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can help somebody else
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and a pastor can
help other people
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so just like how
there's always individuals...
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each one has their own
purpose. Hmmm... hmmm...
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The person that
taught me how to cook,
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you know, I don't
know how to cook...
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brown rice all of
that healthy stuff
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and she said, "Let me
speak into your life,"
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she was an
incredible mentor for me.
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Yvonne: Hmmm... hmmm...
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At what point did
you decide that mentoring
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was what you wanted to do,
like, what made that happen?
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You know, to me, I
thought when somebody said,
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"I had cancer and I
have this much time to live,"
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and I thought, "Wait... "
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and then I started to look
around, "Who's standing up?"
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and there are incredible folks
standing up all over the world,
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I mean, we would be so proud
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if we could actually
see the face of Christ
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in the face of the people
that are passionate about Him
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and I thought, "What
do they need from me?
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If I go out tomorrow,
or ten years from now,
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what do they need in that time?"
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and I felt like God Himself
said, "Are you kidding me?
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Are you kidding me?
You absolutely love me,
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they need to know that
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and they need to
step out in that strength"
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and we started mentoring
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and I watched... with a
little bit of information
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this person would be a
100 times more effective
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and I thought, with a
little bit of information
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and then... they are stronger,
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they're standing up
stronger, their voice is solid,
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they're not saying,
"I'm not good enough,"
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they know that none
of us are good enough
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just stand up anyway.
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And so I think that
it just changed my life,
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and I realized that
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what we give to
each other is so huge.
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That's amazing, so where
are you trying to take this,
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what's the goal for it
or do you have a goal...
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specific goal
that you have in mind
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for this whole mentoring piece?
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You know, we do, we're
going to do a Digital Mall
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to literally step into people's
lives on different levels
00:25:18.81\00:25:21.58
and to be whatever we
can add at any given time
00:25:21.62\00:25:24.62
we've built a Studio at my home,
00:25:24.69\00:25:26.29
I don't have to
travel, I can walk downstairs,
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we've got video, audio
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and a place even... for people
to stay as we interview them,
00:25:30.23\00:25:33.83
and so it's like
being able to say
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that we are
really going to start
00:25:35.63\00:25:37.67
just concentrating on content,
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what does somebody
need... to be more effective?
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That is so
great, that is so great,
00:25:42.40\00:25:44.61
what is your burden for
the church at this point?
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Where... where's
your heart for the church?
00:25:49.18\00:25:52.21
Every mask needs
to come off right now.
00:25:52.25\00:25:54.78
We're at the end of
the great controversy,
00:25:54.82\00:25:57.45
do your own
recovery, do your own healing,
00:25:57.49\00:26:00.09
ask God what your
gifts are and share them
00:26:00.12\00:26:02.72
because we have
amazing people in the church
00:26:02.76\00:26:05.59
and even for the last
few seconds here is...
00:26:05.66\00:26:08.40
if anybody has any funds
to help us... send money...
00:26:08.43\00:26:11.37
if you say, "I
really... all I can do is this,"
00:26:11.40\00:26:15.37
do that, pray for
someone, whatever it is
00:26:15.44\00:26:17.91
but it's like, we've
got to... every mask is off.
00:26:17.94\00:26:20.48
We can't tap out now,
we're on the way home.
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That's right,
that's right, yes we are,
00:26:23.78\00:26:25.15
that's right, that's right,
00:26:25.18\00:26:26.51
I can't believe our time is
just about up, was this fun?
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Jason: Yes it was, yes it
was, Yvonne: All right see...
00:26:30.19\00:26:32.22
Jason: There was no way
you were going to be able to
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interview her without me
00:26:34.36\00:26:35.69
and I couldn't
interview her without you, so...
00:26:35.72\00:26:37.43
There you go... there you go...
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we're so glad that
you took the time out
00:26:38.83\00:26:41.20
on your Celebrating
Life in Recovery Set
00:26:41.23\00:26:43.73
which is awesome, and
you're on Dare to Dream
00:26:43.77\00:26:46.23
so we love having you there
and we love you so much, Cheri,
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God bless you as you
continue... Cheri: Thank you.
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And we're going to
encourage our Viewers to support
00:26:53.21\00:26:56.08
True Step Ministries
00:26:56.11\00:26:58.05
it's Truestep. org right?
00:26:58.08\00:26:59.75
Support Cheri
in what she's doing
00:26:59.81\00:27:02.25
you know that it's vital,
00:27:02.28\00:27:03.62
you know that this is
something that has to be done
00:27:03.65\00:27:06.79
we're not playing...
God is not playing now,
00:27:06.82\00:27:09.69
it's time for us to be serious,
pour into each other's lives
00:27:09.72\00:27:13.63
and give... set
forth God's agenda.
00:27:13.66\00:27:17.00
God bless you,
thanks for joining us.
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Wow! that was so much fun
you know, Hebrews 13:7 says,
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"Remember those who led you,
who spoke the Word of God to you
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and considering the
result of their conduct,
00:27:32.81\00:27:35.15
imitate their faith. "
00:27:35.18\00:27:36.89
Contact Cheri's
mentoring program
00:27:36.92\00:27:39.35
and mentor someone today,
00:27:39.39\00:27:41.26
there are so many
people who need you,
00:27:41.29\00:27:43.73
so many people who could benefit
00:27:43.76\00:27:46.13
from the wisdom
that God has given you
00:27:46.16\00:27:48.13
so many young people
who really, really need
00:27:48.16\00:27:51.70
someone to take
some time with them,
00:27:51.73\00:27:53.94
and to show them
the love of Jesus.
00:27:54.00\00:27:56.14
You can do it, we thank you.
00:27:56.17\00:27:58.27
Well, I can't believe it
00:27:58.31\00:28:00.41
we've reached the
end of another program.
00:28:00.44\00:28:02.38
Join us next time
because you know what?
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It just wouldn't be
the same without you.
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