Stay tuned to meet a woman 00:00:01.33\00:00:02.76 who is making a positive contribution 00:00:02.80\00:00:04.73 to the development of our youth. 00:00:04.77\00:00:06.27 My name is Jason Bradley 00:00:06.30\00:00:07.80 and you're watching Urban Report. 00:00:07.84\00:00:09.70 Hello and welcome to Urban Report. 00:00:33.76\00:00:35.53 My guest today is Kimberly Crider 00:00:35.56\00:00:37.40 and she is the Director of Radical Rescue, 00:00:37.43\00:00:39.67 it's so good to have you here, Kimberly. 00:00:39.70\00:00:41.64 Oh, it's great to be here, thank you. 00:00:41.70\00:00:43.64 Good, good, now tell us a little bit about "you. " 00:00:43.67\00:00:46.71 Well, I am originally from Cleveland, Ohio, 00:00:46.74\00:00:50.51 my background is, I'm a trained Social Worker, 00:00:50.58\00:00:54.28 that's my background, and I'm married, 00:00:54.32\00:00:57.65 I have a ten-year-old son and so he keeps me on my toes 00:00:57.69\00:01:01.16 so, very involved with my local church 00:01:01.19\00:01:04.33 so between ministry, home, and everything else, 00:01:04.36\00:01:08.06 I stay pretty active. 00:01:08.10\00:01:09.43 Good, good, now you brought a Kit with you, 00:01:09.46\00:01:12.17 the Sanctuary... the Radical Rescue Sanctuary Kit 00:01:12.20\00:01:16.07 let's take a look at this 00:01:16.10\00:01:18.37 and I want you to tell us what's in there. 00:01:18.41\00:01:20.88 Okay, exactly, this is Radical Rescue 00:01:20.94\00:01:23.41 and basically it is a Kit that covers five days, 00:01:23.45\00:01:26.78 it's a five-day Program to introduce children 00:01:26.82\00:01:30.15 ages 4 to 12 to the Biblical Sanctuary. 00:01:30.19\00:01:32.65 So, what I will do is, 00:01:32.69\00:01:34.32 I will show you what we have in here, 00:01:34.36\00:01:36.62 the very first thing that we have here 00:01:36.69\00:01:39.33 is a complete Program Planning Guide 00:01:39.36\00:01:41.93 so if anybody wants to introduce kids to the Sanctuary 00:01:41.96\00:01:46.27 whether it's during Vacation Bible School, 00:01:46.33\00:01:49.50 Week of Prayer, this is the Planning Guide 00:01:49.54\00:01:52.37 that you can use, we make it super easy 00:01:52.41\00:01:54.71 for people to be able to take it and use it, 00:01:54.74\00:01:57.48 I'll actually show you just real quick here 00:01:57.51\00:02:00.52 this is the Five-day Program Overview 00:02:00.55\00:02:03.49 so basically what we do is, 00:02:03.52\00:02:05.32 we give the Key Learning Concept for the day, 00:02:05.35\00:02:08.32 we give the songs to sing, we give the scripts 00:02:08.36\00:02:11.29 so people don't have to stress about, 00:02:11.33\00:02:12.66 "How am I going to tell a four-year old 00:02:12.69\00:02:14.00 about the Sanctuary?" 00:02:14.10\00:02:15.40 You have it down to a Science. 00:02:15.43\00:02:16.83 Yes, yes, we want to make it very easy for people 00:02:16.87\00:02:19.17 because a lot of times, people stress about, 00:02:19.20\00:02:21.34 "How am I going to explain, 00:02:21.37\00:02:23.37 what can be a very, very complicated subject matter, 00:02:23.41\00:02:26.47 how do you bring that down to a level of a child?" 00:02:26.51\00:02:30.01 So we provide the scripts, we provide the artwork, 00:02:30.05\00:02:33.38 there are also some instructions for Memory Verse games, 00:02:33.42\00:02:37.45 so the kids can work on memorizing the Memory Verse 00:02:37.49\00:02:40.12 as well as, 00:02:40.16\00:02:41.49 even introducing kids to the health message. 00:02:41.52\00:02:43.69 So you have it all in here, 00:02:43.73\00:02:45.53 you want to plan this five-day Program 00:02:45.56\00:02:47.66 so that's the first component, 00:02:47.73\00:02:49.76 the second component, as I alluded to earlier 00:02:49.80\00:02:52.63 is music, so we actually have a CD here 00:02:52.67\00:02:56.27 that has original songs about the Sanctuary 00:02:56.30\00:02:59.91 so kids are hearing Scriptures, 00:02:59.94\00:03:02.68 and then they're also hearing the songs 00:03:02.71\00:03:04.78 other kids are singing about the Sanctuary, 00:03:04.81\00:03:06.95 So it is being ingrained into their memory, 00:03:07.02\00:03:09.45 now, you also have this in Spanish too, 00:03:09.48\00:03:11.89 yes we do, we have it in Espaņol 00:03:11.92\00:03:13.66 so if people want to get it in Spanish, 00:03:13.69\00:03:15.79 they have that too, but kids love these songs 00:03:15.82\00:03:18.76 because, again, they're hearing God's Word 00:03:18.79\00:03:21.66 but they're also catchy songs so kids are hearing the message 00:03:21.70\00:03:24.77 of the Sanctuary through the songs as well, 00:03:24.83\00:03:26.70 so we have that too, 00:03:26.74\00:03:28.07 now once the kids listen to those songs, 00:03:28.14\00:03:29.97 then they can sing them on their own, 00:03:30.07\00:03:31.81 we actually have the soundtrack that comes along with it 00:03:31.84\00:03:34.78 so the kids can sing the songs on their own 00:03:34.81\00:03:36.91 once they memorize the words, so we have that as well. 00:03:36.95\00:03:41.22 Then the other component... 00:03:41.25\00:03:42.58 the younger kids... during the five days 00:03:42.62\00:03:44.85 they're doing activities 00:03:44.89\00:03:46.22 where they're working with their hands 00:03:46.25\00:03:47.86 they are doing activities 00:03:47.89\00:03:50.09 that are focusing on their numbers, 00:03:50.13\00:03:51.63 their colors but it's all themed on the Sanctuary, 00:03:51.69\00:03:54.20 the older kids actually put together their own Sanctuary 00:03:54.23\00:03:58.63 so these are the graphics 00:03:58.67\00:04:00.07 of what the older kids would be using 00:04:00.14\00:04:02.50 to put together their Sanctuary 00:04:02.54\00:04:04.81 and you can see this one actually 00:04:04.84\00:04:07.01 is perforated and so sometimes we've had 00:04:07.08\00:04:09.44 people that have said, "I don't like to cut, 00:04:09.48\00:04:11.81 if I have to cut out another graphic, I'm going to die" 00:04:11.85\00:04:13.95 so, we provide these perforated 00:04:14.02\00:04:18.32 and so people can get these in bundles separately 00:04:18.35\00:04:20.86 so they don't have to worry about cutting 00:04:20.89\00:04:22.29 so these are the sanctuary graphics that come with it. 00:04:22.32\00:04:24.63 Okay. 00:04:24.66\00:04:26.03 The other component that comes with it 00:04:26.06\00:04:27.76 is a Resource Guide, we call this the R3 CD 00:04:27.83\00:04:30.63 because it has all the resources that people need 00:04:30.67\00:04:34.20 the materials that are needed to do the activities, 00:04:34.24\00:04:37.71 we're also really big on promotional materials 00:04:37.74\00:04:40.84 so if people wanted to have News Releases, they're on here, 00:04:40.88\00:04:43.61 all they have to do is just go in and change the date, 00:04:43.71\00:04:46.11 the location that's already ready for them 00:04:46.15\00:04:48.72 so with the materials on this Resource CD, 00:04:48.75\00:04:51.29 you can make as many Sanctuary Kits, materials, 00:04:51.32\00:04:53.96 anything you want, 00:04:54.02\00:04:55.76 you've got it right here and you can print from it. 00:04:55.79\00:04:57.59 That is huge. Hmmm... hmmm... 00:04:57.63\00:04:58.96 And then finally, this is just one of the 00:04:58.99\00:05:01.06 marketing materials that people can see a sample of 00:05:01.10\00:05:04.67 we have an electronic version that is on the CD 00:05:04.70\00:05:08.27 but this is just a poster 00:05:08.30\00:05:09.64 that people can put all over the Community 00:05:09.67\00:05:13.17 that they want to share 00:05:13.21\00:05:14.54 and this is available on the Resource CD 00:05:14.58\00:05:17.45 and you can personalize it 00:05:17.48\00:05:18.81 and so you can print it out as many times as you want, 00:05:18.85\00:05:21.18 so that's just an example of what's in the Kit. 00:05:21.22\00:05:24.85 Wow! that is a power-packed Kit, now, who created all this, 00:05:24.89\00:05:28.89 who is responsible for the creation of these materials? 00:05:28.92\00:05:32.66 Well, first I have to say, "God" 00:05:32.69\00:05:34.30 He's the one that orchestrated this 00:05:34.36\00:05:37.17 but it was put together by lay people 00:05:37.23\00:05:40.00 who consulted with educators, with pastors, 00:05:40.04\00:05:43.24 with musicians, and so, God just sent the people, 00:05:43.27\00:05:47.54 every component of this, 00:05:47.58\00:05:48.91 God sent the people that needed to be 00:05:48.94\00:05:51.15 involved in this... to work on this. 00:05:51.18\00:05:53.92 Wow! well, they did a wonderful job, 00:05:53.98\00:05:56.05 by the grace of God, Hmmm... hmmm... 00:05:56.08\00:05:58.15 now, we have a promotional video that we want to see, 00:05:58.19\00:06:02.82 and we want you to describe what's going on in that video. 00:06:02.86\00:06:06.86 Absolutely. 00:06:06.93\00:06:08.23 So let's take a look at that. Okay. 00:06:08.26\00:06:10.07 Take kids on an exciting 5-day rescue mission 00:06:10.17\00:06:11.60 centered in the biblical Sanctuary, 00:06:11.63\00:06:13.77 with Jesus as the Rescuer, Radical Rescue. 00:06:13.84\00:06:15.57 Okay, well you can see, this is just the artwork, 00:06:15.60\00:06:17.74 and this promotional video was actually shot in a school, 00:06:17.81\00:06:21.78 we went and we were asked to come in for Week of Prayer, 00:06:21.81\00:06:25.78 and so during the whole Week of Prayer, 00:06:25.81\00:06:27.78 we were singing songs with the kids, 00:06:27.82\00:06:29.75 we were playing games with them, 00:06:29.78\00:06:32.82 this is where they're actually singing some of the songs 00:06:32.85\00:06:34.92 during Song Service, 00:06:34.96\00:06:36.29 we had games where they were learning their Memory Verses 00:06:36.32\00:06:39.29 and so some of the games that the kids were playing 00:06:39.33\00:06:41.60 to be able to learn their Memory Verses, 00:06:41.66\00:06:44.13 one of the key components that the older kids do 00:06:44.17\00:06:47.70 like I said is put together the Sanctuary 00:06:47.74\00:06:49.64 so here the kids are putting together their own Sanctuary 00:06:49.67\00:06:53.78 you've also seen a couple of shots of the lamb 00:06:53.84\00:06:57.01 so we actually recommend bringing in a live lamb 00:06:57.05\00:07:00.25 and the kids loved it, 00:07:00.28\00:07:01.62 for some kids this was the first time 00:07:01.65\00:07:03.02 they had ever been able to touch a real live lamb 00:07:03.05\00:07:05.85 Wow! so those were just some of the 00:07:05.89\00:07:08.16 activities that took place during that Week of Prayer 00:07:08.19\00:07:10.46 at the local school. website: radicalrescue. us 00:07:10.49\00:07:12.63 Wow, wow! that is impressive, 00:07:12.66\00:07:15.43 now, how did you see the Lord leading 00:07:15.46\00:07:18.53 in the development of these materials? 00:07:18.60\00:07:21.60 Oh! God is so amazing, 00:07:21.67\00:07:23.41 He showed us, from the very beginning, 00:07:23.51\00:07:26.34 that He wanted this Program and this Kit to come to fruition 00:07:26.37\00:07:29.78 it was born a few years ago, 00:07:29.81\00:07:32.11 my family and I had been recruited 00:07:32.15\00:07:34.15 to go on a Mission Trip to the Dominical Republic 00:07:34.22\00:07:37.19 oh, actually before that, 00:07:37.22\00:07:38.55 before we went to the Dominical Republic 00:07:38.59\00:07:39.92 we were invited to go to Mexico 00:07:39.95\00:07:41.59 and we were rushing around 00:07:41.62\00:07:43.16 because we were invited three weeks before 00:07:43.19\00:07:44.96 the Program was supposed to start, 00:07:44.99\00:07:46.33 and so they said, 00:07:46.36\00:07:47.73 "Can you lead Vacation Bible School?" 00:07:47.76\00:07:50.03 So, we're rushing around trying to find a Program 00:07:50.07\00:07:52.60 that's pre-packaged, ready to go, and in Spanish, 00:07:52.63\00:07:55.17 that we could just pick up and go with it, 00:07:55.20\00:07:57.37 and we just struggled, we couldn't find something 00:07:57.41\00:07:59.81 that really helped share the Plan of Salvation 00:07:59.84\00:08:02.21 the way that we wanted to, so we went with another Program 00:08:02.24\00:08:05.48 the second year, 00:08:05.51\00:08:06.85 when we were using that same Program, 00:08:06.88\00:08:08.72 God just convicted us and said, 00:08:08.75\00:08:10.42 "Look, you may only see these children one time in your life 00:08:10.45\00:08:13.99 you need to be planting seeds for my Kingdom 00:08:14.09\00:08:16.42 in sharing the salvation message," 00:08:16.46\00:08:18.26 so from that point, we started developing 00:08:18.29\00:08:20.73 this curriculum but we wanted confirmation from God 00:08:20.76\00:08:24.90 that He wanted it to be over the Sanctuary 00:08:24.93\00:08:27.64 and the Plan of Salvation together, 00:08:27.67\00:08:30.31 so, the third year when we were scheduled to go 00:08:30.34\00:08:33.58 to the Dominican Republic, 00:08:33.61\00:08:34.94 my sister and I flew over for a site visit 00:08:34.98\00:08:37.38 and so that's when you go over and just get everything ready 00:08:37.45\00:08:39.91 for the big trip that happens a few months later, 00:08:39.95\00:08:42.55 and so we prayed to God for two things, 00:08:42.58\00:08:45.15 we said, "God, please confirm 00:08:45.22\00:08:47.09 that you want us to do this Program 00:08:47.16\00:08:48.82 by providing a Facility large enough 00:08:48.86\00:08:50.53 for us to be able to hold the quantity of children 00:08:50.56\00:08:53.29 that we know are going to come, 00:08:53.33\00:08:54.66 and then second, please provide a live lamb. " 00:08:54.73\00:08:57.43 Well, during the course of the site visit, 00:08:57.47\00:08:59.93 we couldn't find anything, 00:09:00.07\00:09:01.40 the Facility... it would not come through, 00:09:01.44\00:09:04.14 we couldn't find a lamb and just a couple of hours 00:09:04.17\00:09:06.74 before we were to fly out, 00:09:06.81\00:09:08.54 we got a call from the church and they said, 00:09:08.58\00:09:10.41 "Come back out to the neighborhood, 00:09:10.48\00:09:11.81 we've got some good news for you" 00:09:11.85\00:09:13.18 when we got there, the local Pentecostal Church, 00:09:13.21\00:09:16.45 right up the road, loaned us their entire Facility 00:09:16.48\00:09:19.75 to use their Facility 00:09:19.79\00:09:22.02 to teach the children about the Sanctuary, 00:09:22.06\00:09:24.59 we actually have some pictures of the... 00:09:24.63\00:09:27.13 that's the Pentecostal Church there 00:09:27.13\00:09:29.40 and so, we were inside checking it out 00:09:29.43\00:09:31.57 and as soon as I stepped out of the Pentecostal Church, 00:09:31.60\00:09:35.07 I started taking some pictures 00:09:35.14\00:09:36.91 and then this gentleman just came up to me 00:09:36.94\00:09:39.71 and you can see here in the picture 00:09:39.74\00:09:41.08 he had a cart and he had a bike, I mean, a bike and a cart, 00:09:41.11\00:09:44.55 he had all these leaves and stuff 00:09:44.58\00:09:45.91 and he started asking me, "What are you doing?" 00:09:45.95\00:09:47.65 And so, we were sharing with him what we were doing 00:09:47.72\00:09:50.59 and for some reason, 00:09:50.62\00:09:52.09 I just said, "Well, what is all that for?" 00:09:52.12\00:09:54.06 and he said, "It's for my sheep" 00:09:54.09\00:09:55.82 I said, "That's for your... what?" 00:09:55.86\00:09:57.63 I had to check my Spanish, I said, 00:09:57.66\00:09:59.26 "I know, this man did not just say 'Ovejas'" 00:09:59.29\00:10:01.56 but he did, it was his sheep, 00:10:01.60\00:10:04.13 God had sent us the man who had the sheep 00:10:04.17\00:10:07.50 in the neighborhood that we needed 00:10:07.54\00:10:09.17 and as we talked with him, he started telling us, 00:10:09.20\00:10:13.64 "I never come this way, this is the exact opposite way 00:10:13.68\00:10:17.45 that I need to come" 00:10:17.51\00:10:18.85 but we knew that God had sent him 00:10:18.88\00:10:21.85 and when he went on to talk to us, 00:10:21.88\00:10:24.89 he told us that he was a former Seventh-day Adventist 00:10:24.95\00:10:27.12 who had become discouraged 00:10:27.16\00:10:28.99 and so we were able to minister to him, 00:10:29.02\00:10:31.23 to encourage him, and it was... 00:10:31.26\00:10:33.26 that was just the confirmation that we needed 00:10:33.29\00:10:35.93 for God to tell us, "You know, you need to do this" 00:10:35.96\00:10:39.13 Hmmm... hmmm... and it's amazing how 00:10:39.17\00:10:42.30 God works because you don't know how... 00:10:42.34\00:10:45.04 how it's going to come into fruition, 00:10:45.07\00:10:47.74 you don't know how it's going to come about 00:10:47.78\00:10:49.34 but all He needs is a "willing vessel" 00:10:49.38\00:10:51.65 and you were that "willing vessel" 00:10:51.68\00:10:53.95 and you got to see the miracles right before your very eyes. 00:10:53.98\00:10:57.52 Yeah, and it wasn't just that piece, it was like... 00:10:57.55\00:11:01.72 every component of the Program, He would send people, 00:11:01.79\00:11:05.89 we didn't have a lot of knowledge about 00:11:05.93\00:11:08.40 let's just say, the music, okay, 00:11:08.43\00:11:10.83 we're not musicians by trade, 00:11:10.87\00:11:13.10 but God would just give us the music 00:11:13.13\00:11:15.34 and just give us the lyrics. 00:11:15.40\00:11:16.77 I remember one day I was studying about 00:11:16.81\00:11:18.87 Jesus as our High Priest and all of a sudden 00:11:18.91\00:11:21.84 it just... this revelation like... 00:11:21.88\00:11:24.58 "We have a high priest," 00:11:24.65\00:11:26.11 and God just gave me this tune and the lyrics 00:11:26.15\00:11:29.28 I'm scribbling to write down the lyrics 00:11:29.32\00:11:31.85 and the song just came to my head 00:11:31.89\00:11:33.96 and we would record all the songs onto a computer 00:11:34.02\00:11:37.83 because we didn't know what else to do 00:11:37.86\00:11:39.83 we couldn't score the music or anything 00:11:39.86\00:11:41.73 but we had all the music recorded and then we were like, 00:11:41.76\00:11:46.37 "Okay God, we need somebody to score this music 00:11:46.43\00:11:49.70 and to translate it into Spanish" 00:11:49.74\00:11:51.77 and as we were talking about it, 00:11:51.81\00:11:53.81 God just put the name of this lady in my head, 00:11:53.84\00:11:57.31 Adriana Perera, 00:11:57.38\00:11:58.81 I had not spoken to her in 20 years, 00:11:58.85\00:12:01.38 I had no idea, really, what was going on with her 00:12:01.45\00:12:03.99 I just sort of knew she was involved with music 00:12:04.02\00:12:06.45 20 years ago, and so when I contacted her 00:12:06.49\00:12:10.23 explained what we were trying to do 00:12:10.26\00:12:12.03 and I asked, "Is this something you could help with?" 00:12:12.06\00:12:14.30 She said, "Absolutely, this is what I do" 00:12:14.30\00:12:16.46 she writes music for orchestras and symphonies 00:12:16.50\00:12:19.43 and she just arranges music and so 00:12:19.47\00:12:22.07 she arranged all the songs, translated them all into Spanish 00:12:22.10\00:12:26.88 and just did a wonderful job with it. 00:12:26.94\00:12:29.71 So not only did God send you someone 00:12:29.74\00:12:32.48 to help you with the music, 00:12:32.55\00:12:33.88 He sent you someone who He's blessed with a tremendous gift 00:12:33.92\00:12:36.85 to help you with the music. Yes, He did. 00:12:36.89\00:12:38.92 That's amazing, now I know that usually 00:12:38.95\00:12:41.06 when you're doing something for the Lord, 00:12:41.12\00:12:44.33 Satan is angry and so I can only imagine that 00:12:44.36\00:12:47.56 there were some obstacles, 00:12:47.60\00:12:48.90 what were some of the obstacles that you faced 00:12:48.93\00:12:52.20 in developing this? 00:12:52.23\00:12:53.60 Yeah, Satan did not like what we were doing 00:12:53.67\00:12:56.27 there would be small things and major things 00:12:56.34\00:13:00.28 small things would be 00:13:00.31\00:13:01.64 when we would have group meetings, 00:13:01.68\00:13:03.45 a lot of times we would be meeting on the phone 00:13:03.48\00:13:05.28 to talk about planning this, 00:13:05.31\00:13:06.65 we would be talking about other subject matters, 00:13:06.72\00:13:09.65 the moment we start talking about this project, 00:13:09.68\00:13:12.62 we'd start having phone problems, 00:13:12.65\00:13:14.36 communication problems, Hmmm... hmmm... 00:13:14.39\00:13:15.72 so that was just one thing, 00:13:15.76\00:13:17.13 but then he would attack the people 00:13:17.16\00:13:18.83 that were associated with this project, 00:13:18.86\00:13:20.40 for instance, 00:13:20.43\00:13:21.73 when the kids were recording the music, 00:13:21.76\00:13:25.07 the CDs... the Engineer even said to us 00:13:25.10\00:13:27.84 he said, "This must be a special project 00:13:27.87\00:13:30.57 because I'm having problems that I never had with the equipment," 00:13:30.61\00:13:33.54 because things were going wrong, just happening, 00:13:33.64\00:13:35.68 he never had a problem with... 00:13:35.71\00:13:37.05 when we went to go get the CDs duplicated, 00:13:37.11\00:13:40.62 the Company that we used, 00:13:40.68\00:13:42.38 when they started duplicating our CD, 00:13:42.42\00:13:45.49 and they called us and told us, 00:13:45.55\00:13:47.02 "When we started duplicating your CD, 00:13:47.12\00:13:49.39 the Air Compressor just went berserk" 00:13:49.42\00:13:51.43 I mean, it just shut everything down, 00:13:51.46\00:13:53.23 so they couldn't finish, I mean, 00:13:53.26\00:13:54.93 it wasn't just our project that it affected, 00:13:54.93\00:13:56.93 it affected everybody's 00:13:57.00\00:13:58.33 but it happened when they started duplicating our CDs 00:13:58.37\00:14:01.30 and even the gentleman, who was our representative, 00:14:01.34\00:14:04.51 he said, "This must be a special project 00:14:04.54\00:14:07.58 because the things that are happening in this... 00:14:07.61\00:14:10.28 this is not normal, I mean, there's something 00:14:10.35\00:14:12.85 there's something special and different about this project. " 00:14:12.88\00:14:15.15 Yeah, that's definitely not normal, 00:14:15.18\00:14:16.82 I mean, it's crazy that things just started going haywire, 00:14:16.89\00:14:22.36 so things stopped working and it's just confirmation too 00:14:22.39\00:14:27.86 that you are headed in the right direction, 00:14:27.93\00:14:29.73 if the devil is not upset, 00:14:29.80\00:14:31.40 you must not be doing something right. 00:14:31.43\00:14:34.27 That's true, we even had a gentleman, 00:14:34.30\00:14:37.11 who the Lord orchestrated 00:14:37.17\00:14:39.31 that he would be involved with us 00:14:39.34\00:14:41.24 in getting the accompaniment tracks together 00:14:41.28\00:14:43.41 and as soon as he started working on our project, 00:14:43.45\00:14:47.38 he started having problems on his job 00:14:47.42\00:14:49.05 and then there was one day 00:14:49.12\00:14:50.85 when he was supposed to dedicate a significant amount of time 00:14:50.89\00:14:54.42 to the accompaniment tracks, 00:14:54.46\00:14:56.62 and when he went to go get into his vehicle, 00:14:56.69\00:14:59.43 he said, just for some reason, 00:14:59.46\00:15:01.46 the lights went out on the Dash, 00:15:01.50\00:15:03.37 he couldn't drive, and he was like, 00:15:03.40\00:15:05.23 "Okay, something is going on here" 00:15:05.27\00:15:07.04 but Satan would attack 00:15:07.07\00:15:08.57 all the people that were associated with this project. 00:15:08.60\00:15:11.94 Yeah, and I mean, what you guys are doing 00:15:11.97\00:15:14.08 is so vitally important, 00:15:14.11\00:15:15.94 it's so important because you are reaching the youth 00:15:16.01\00:15:19.58 Satan wants to reach the youth, 00:15:19.61\00:15:21.45 we need to reach the youth for Christ, 00:15:21.48\00:15:23.79 and so what you guys are doing, 00:15:23.82\00:15:25.62 is very important and it's structured in a way that... 00:15:25.65\00:15:29.69 that it will get ingrained in their memory 00:15:29.72\00:15:31.93 that they'll enjoy doing it, 00:15:31.96\00:15:34.83 it will be fun for them and it will stick, 00:15:34.86\00:15:36.67 and it's something that they'll look forward to, 00:15:36.73\00:15:40.90 so that is truly a blessing for the children, 00:15:40.94\00:15:45.04 now, have you always been an Adventist? 00:15:45.07\00:15:47.08 I did grow up Seventh-day Adventist 00:15:47.14\00:15:48.91 but you know what I like to tell people, which is true, 00:15:48.94\00:15:51.61 "It's a daily journey," I mean there are times when 00:15:51.65\00:15:54.18 I'm having to... just daily... recommit myself to Christ 00:15:54.22\00:15:58.55 and just say, "You know God, 00:15:58.59\00:15:59.92 it doesn't matter what happened yesterday, 00:15:59.95\00:16:01.76 this is a new day," I mean, 00:16:01.79\00:16:03.59 when you think about it, it's like exercise, 00:16:03.66\00:16:04.99 which you did 20 years ago, 00:16:05.03\00:16:06.36 I mean, it may have helped then 00:16:06.39\00:16:09.60 but you still have to get up 00:16:09.63\00:16:11.57 and walk on the treadmill or whatever everyday so 00:16:11.60\00:16:13.94 I kind of equate it to that so it's definitely a daily journey. 00:16:14.04\00:16:17.84 Yes, yes, now, what other topics... 00:16:17.87\00:16:23.85 are there any other topics or anything else from the Bible 00:16:23.88\00:16:27.52 that you guys are going to develop for children? 00:16:27.55\00:16:31.62 I don't know, we're praying and just saying, 00:16:31.65\00:16:35.16 "God, what would you want us to do?" 00:16:35.19\00:16:36.52 We are continuing to add on to specific components of this, 00:16:36.56\00:16:42.16 for instance, one of the things that we have 00:16:42.20\00:16:44.43 just finished developing is... 00:16:44.47\00:16:47.40 it's like a guide to help people to build an edible Sanctuary, 00:16:47.50\00:16:52.17 so if they want to take these for even smaller kids, 00:16:52.21\00:16:55.08 you make them out graham crackers and peanut butter 00:16:55.11\00:16:57.95 just as another level of... 00:16:57.98\00:17:00.05 I might have to join that group you said, "food" 00:17:00.08\00:17:03.18 edible... I might have to join that group. 00:17:03.25\00:17:06.49 I know, but it's fun but it's teaching the kids 00:17:06.52\00:17:11.13 at the level that they are at, 00:17:11.16\00:17:12.63 and we had one church that did the "Edible Sanctuary" 00:17:12.66\00:17:16.77 and the parents just had so much fun 00:17:16.80\00:17:18.57 I mean, I don't even... 00:17:18.60\00:17:19.93 I don't even think they wanted the kids to be involved, 00:17:19.97\00:17:21.87 they were just enjoying 00:17:21.90\00:17:23.84 that particular component because they were learning 00:17:23.91\00:17:26.51 but really, that's part of what we're trying to do, 00:17:26.54\00:17:29.11 build on it and really make more materials 00:17:29.14\00:17:32.41 that would help bring this to life 00:17:32.45\00:17:34.02 and meet kids where they are. 00:17:34.05\00:17:35.95 That is beautiful, 00:17:35.98\00:17:37.32 so, what components are in the Sanctuary, 00:17:37.39\00:17:43.22 give us a little breakdown of what's in the Sanctuary 00:17:43.26\00:17:47.00 and the significance of it. 00:17:47.03\00:17:48.46 Well, the Sanctuary, in and of itself, 00:17:48.50\00:17:50.87 again, you start with the foundation of being very simple 00:17:50.93\00:17:54.84 but then it can grow in its complexity 00:17:54.87\00:17:58.01 so when you walk into the Sanctuary, 00:17:58.04\00:18:01.18 you have the Outer Court, you have the Courtyard 00:18:01.21\00:18:03.38 and you have the Alter of Burnt Sacrifice 00:18:03.41\00:18:05.88 and of course, 00:18:05.91\00:18:07.25 that's where the lamb was sacrificed in there 00:18:07.28\00:18:10.62 and then put on the alter, 00:18:10.65\00:18:11.99 but you also have the Laver in there 00:18:12.02\00:18:13.99 and that's where the priest would go and wash himself 00:18:14.02\00:18:15.96 and make sure he was clean, 00:18:15.99\00:18:17.46 so you have those components, 00:18:17.49\00:18:18.83 and then you actually go into the Holy Place 00:18:18.89\00:18:21.70 and so you got in there The Table of Shewbread, 00:18:21.73\00:18:24.50 you've got the Candlesticks, you've got the Alter of Incense 00:18:24.53\00:18:28.07 and then you've got the veil 00:18:28.10\00:18:30.44 and then you go into the Most Holy Place 00:18:30.51\00:18:32.31 where, of course, you have the Ark of the Covenant 00:18:32.34\00:18:34.54 which has the Ten Commandments, Aaron's Rod, the Manna in there, 00:18:34.58\00:18:38.45 and, of course, on top of that you have the Covering Angels 00:18:38.48\00:18:42.22 and the Shekinah Glory 00:18:42.25\00:18:43.99 and so when you start looking at each one of those pieces, 00:18:44.02\00:18:47.92 at its most basic form and even at its most complex form, 00:18:47.96\00:18:51.86 it's all about Jesus, Yes. 00:18:51.89\00:18:54.20 it's all about Jesus, every component represents Jesus 00:18:54.30\00:18:58.17 and it's the Story of Redemption, 00:18:58.20\00:18:59.87 and the Plan of Salvation, 00:18:59.90\00:19:01.30 so when you're saying, "What does it all represent?" 00:19:01.34\00:19:04.04 It's Jesus, it all is about Jesus. 00:19:04.07\00:19:05.84 Hmmm... hmmm... hmmm... hmmm... absolutely 00:19:05.87\00:19:08.14 now, has your son... 00:19:08.18\00:19:09.94 your son participated in this Radical Rescue Sanctuary Kit, 00:19:09.98\00:19:15.85 has he done it before? 00:19:15.88\00:19:17.25 He has on several occasions, he also helped to sing the songs 00:19:17.32\00:19:21.72 because we were singing the songs at home 00:19:21.76\00:19:23.46 so, he's learned the songs, he's been singing them, 00:19:23.49\00:19:26.59 so, he was one of the people that helped to record the music, 00:19:26.63\00:19:31.53 but yes, he has done this and so we've had a good time. 00:19:31.60\00:19:36.60 That's great, now what kind of stories do you have 00:19:36.64\00:19:39.41 in regards to the kids and how well they've received it 00:19:39.44\00:19:44.25 and just... I mean, even miracle stories, 00:19:44.28\00:19:47.32 what stories do you have? 00:19:47.35\00:19:48.68 We've had stories where we're hearing from 00:19:48.72\00:19:50.99 churches that they've done this Program 00:19:51.02\00:19:53.29 and they've enjoyed it so much 00:19:53.36\00:19:54.69 that they've decided to do it again, 00:19:54.72\00:19:56.12 it's not just one of these one-time things, 00:19:56.19\00:19:58.06 you can do it time and time again 00:19:58.09\00:20:00.30 I remember personally when we went into a school, 00:20:00.33\00:20:05.13 it's the same school that we went in for the Promo Video, 00:20:05.17\00:20:07.77 and we were with the kids day after day, 00:20:07.80\00:20:10.57 we were singing songs and just having a wonderful time 00:20:10.61\00:20:14.04 and then, after that Week of Prayer, 00:20:14.08\00:20:16.71 I had to go back to that school for something 00:20:16.81\00:20:19.41 and the kids... when they saw me 00:20:19.45\00:20:22.02 and my other family members coming back, 00:20:22.05\00:20:24.15 they were so excited, they were like, 00:20:24.19\00:20:26.19 "Are we going to do the Sanctuary Program again, 00:20:26.22\00:20:27.79 are we going to do it?" 00:20:27.82\00:20:29.16 Because they just thoroughly enjoyed it, 00:20:29.19\00:20:31.26 they loved singing the songs, 00:20:31.29\00:20:32.99 they loved the games that we were playing, 00:20:33.03\00:20:35.33 but it wasn't games that we were playing 00:20:35.36\00:20:37.63 just to entertain, I mean, they were learning God's Word, 00:20:37.67\00:20:40.30 but they were having a fun time doing it 00:20:40.37\00:20:42.80 and so, just to see the kids eyes light up and to be excited 00:20:42.84\00:20:47.11 about the Sanctuary and excited about the songs 00:20:47.14\00:20:50.91 and building and being together, it was wonderful, 00:20:50.95\00:20:54.65 it was a great testimony as to the impact that the Program has. 00:20:54.68\00:20:58.29 Hmmm... hmmm... and it's great... 00:20:58.32\00:21:00.46 it's the same message but it's packaged in a format 00:21:00.49\00:21:03.43 in which kids can take it in and comprehend it 00:21:03.46\00:21:07.20 that is wonderful, 00:21:07.23\00:21:09.66 I would love to see some other topics done, 00:21:09.70\00:21:13.00 I want to see you guys do some other topics as well, 00:21:13.03\00:21:17.27 the Sanctuary is such an important message, 00:21:17.31\00:21:19.44 and with this type of format that you guys have, 00:21:19.47\00:21:22.14 I guess, been given the vision by God 00:21:22.18\00:21:25.71 on... I think that that format will be successful 00:21:25.75\00:21:30.15 in whatever topic that you feel convicted 00:21:30.19\00:21:35.06 by the Holy Spirit to do, 00:21:35.09\00:21:36.89 so I look forward to seeing some new things as well, 00:21:36.93\00:21:40.70 Well, we'll have to pray that the Lord sends 00:21:40.76\00:21:42.76 another lamb, right, as a confirmation, 00:21:42.80\00:21:44.83 if that's what He wants us to do... but we're open, 00:21:44.87\00:21:47.60 we just want to be doing God's will 00:21:47.64\00:21:49.40 because we know time is short 00:21:49.44\00:21:51.14 and we need to be reaching kids for God's kingdom. 00:21:51.17\00:21:53.91 Absolutely, so what's next for you? 00:21:53.94\00:21:56.24 You know, that's a good question, 00:21:56.28\00:21:58.48 I just follow however the Lord leads 00:21:58.51\00:22:00.75 we continue to promote this and try to get this out 00:22:00.82\00:22:04.89 to as many Communities as possible, 00:22:04.92\00:22:07.06 and I follow wherever God leads me 00:22:07.16\00:22:09.22 that's... I just have that door open 00:22:09.26\00:22:11.23 so if he leads me in a different direction 00:22:11.26\00:22:13.33 I'm open for that. 00:22:13.40\00:22:14.93 Hmmm... hmmm... hmmm... hmmm... 00:22:14.93\00:22:16.73 and what the promotion of this... 00:22:16.77\00:22:19.13 where can people get this 00:22:19.17\00:22:21.54 and how much would one of these Kits go for? 00:22:21.57\00:22:24.64 Sure, well we actually have the Kit available 00:22:24.67\00:22:27.61 in different formats for instance, 00:22:27.64\00:22:29.61 there are parents that we've heard of that are homeschooling, 00:22:29.64\00:22:32.38 and so they don't need, necessarily, the whole Kit 00:22:32.41\00:22:34.82 because they're not doing this 00:22:34.85\00:22:36.18 for an entire church full of kids, 00:22:36.22\00:22:40.42 so we do have a homeschool version, 00:22:40.52\00:22:43.49 we also have an electronic, downloadable version, 00:22:43.53\00:22:46.90 you can get the whole Kit downloadable, 00:22:46.96\00:22:49.03 you can just go to our website and so, 00:22:49.06\00:22:51.13 this is particularly of interest to individuals 00:22:51.17\00:22:53.40 that are living outside of the United States 00:22:53.47\00:22:55.60 so sometimes it's hard with the shipping 00:22:55.64\00:22:57.54 and you know there are a lot of tariffs 00:22:57.57\00:22:59.34 and things that are put on top of that 00:22:59.37\00:23:01.21 so people can go to the website 00:23:01.24\00:23:03.08 and they can actually download all the information right there, 00:23:03.11\00:23:06.51 the materials... they have immediate access to it. 00:23:06.55\00:23:08.08 And what's the website? 00:23:08.12\00:23:09.45 They can go to radicalrescue. us 00:23:09.48\00:23:12.09 Okay, radicalrescue. us 00:23:12.12\00:23:14.29 Yes, radicalrescue. us and so, 00:23:14.32\00:23:16.46 it really depends on the format 00:23:16.49\00:23:18.56 in which people are getting the Kit 00:23:18.59\00:23:21.43 so the prices vary so it just depends, 00:23:21.46\00:23:23.63 and so if people check out our website, 00:23:23.67\00:23:25.70 they can find something that's suitable to their needs 00:23:25.73\00:23:28.37 and what they want, 00:23:28.40\00:23:30.07 now, we're working to try to get the physical Kit 00:23:30.11\00:23:33.34 in some bookstores and so we're just, you know, 00:23:33.38\00:23:35.81 asking that the Lord would open up that door 00:23:35.84\00:23:38.08 because we know that there are people that 00:23:38.11\00:23:40.38 frequent different bookstores 00:23:40.42\00:23:41.98 so we're working on that but as of right now 00:23:42.02\00:23:44.15 the easiest place is to access it through our website. 00:23:44.25\00:23:47.96 Yes, that's great that you made it easily accessible 00:23:48.02\00:23:51.73 so that people can download it, people can purchase the Kit, 00:23:51.76\00:23:56.00 you can get the Kit shipped to you, 00:23:56.03\00:23:58.83 so, there are multiple different ways 00:23:58.87\00:24:02.97 and going back to the resource, the CD, 00:24:03.04\00:24:07.01 so, on the Resource CD there you can print items out 00:24:07.08\00:24:12.58 so you have unlimited amounts of copies 00:24:12.65\00:24:17.52 or... Exactly, exactly, so 00:24:17.59\00:24:19.32 you know, the materials, 00:24:19.35\00:24:21.09 for instance all the graphics for the Sanctuary are on there 00:24:21.12\00:24:24.63 so if you don't mind cutting, you can print out a thousand 00:24:24.66\00:24:27.86 of these Sanctuary Kits and have them 00:24:27.93\00:24:30.23 and all the materials, the Marketing Materials, 00:24:30.27\00:24:33.84 we have Invitation Cards on there 00:24:33.90\00:24:36.20 and so you can invite kids to the neighborhood, 00:24:36.24\00:24:38.87 you can print out as many invitation cards as you want 00:24:38.91\00:24:41.38 the Poster is on there, 00:24:41.41\00:24:43.21 so, again, as many times as you want to implement this Program, 00:24:43.24\00:24:46.68 it's on there, 00:24:46.72\00:24:48.05 just everything that you can imagine, 00:24:48.08\00:24:50.99 and the stories are there, 00:24:51.02\00:24:52.35 just everything that you would need to plan is there 00:24:52.39\00:24:55.69 you can go in and print it out as many times as you want, 00:24:55.72\00:24:58.53 there's even a Certificate of Completion on there 00:24:58.56\00:25:01.10 so kids want to... 00:25:01.13\00:25:02.46 you want to print out those certificates for the kids 00:25:02.50\00:25:04.73 it's on there as well, 00:25:04.77\00:25:06.33 so we have tried to make things 00:25:06.37\00:25:08.70 as easy and as simple as possible 00:25:08.74\00:25:11.01 so people, again, don't have to stress 00:25:11.04\00:25:13.81 about how to present this Program. 00:25:13.88\00:25:15.84 Absolutely, and it's a blessing and it will give the kids 00:25:15.88\00:25:19.15 a sense of achievement, of accomplishment, 00:25:19.18\00:25:21.48 especially when you present them with that Certificate, 00:25:21.52\00:25:24.99 so that is wonderful, 00:25:25.02\00:25:27.06 so you really got the basis covered by the grace of God, 00:25:27.09\00:25:31.93 praise the Lord. 00:25:31.96\00:25:33.40 God has been good and He... 00:25:33.43\00:25:34.73 you know, again, and we continue, 00:25:34.76\00:25:36.40 we know there will be other things 00:25:36.43\00:25:37.97 because as we've said before, 00:25:38.00\00:25:39.37 the Sanctuary is one where it starts foundational 00:25:39.40\00:25:43.07 and very simple and it can build on that. 00:25:43.10\00:25:45.34 One of the things that I can mention too 00:25:45.37\00:25:47.71 in the complete Program Planning Guide 00:25:47.78\00:25:50.05 there is a Section that follows the Bible story 00:25:50.11\00:25:53.28 so those kids that you have 00:25:53.31\00:25:54.95 that maybe a little bit more advanced 00:25:54.98\00:25:57.15 in their Bible comprehension, 00:25:57.19\00:25:58.95 there are questions that follow each Bible story 00:25:58.99\00:26:02.59 so that you can take those kids deeper 00:26:02.62\00:26:04.59 and have them look in their Bible to find the answers. 00:26:04.63\00:26:07.96 So for instance, at the last day, Day Five, 00:26:08.00\00:26:10.67 one of the questions that they ask 00:26:10.70\00:26:12.03 the more advanced kids 00:26:12.07\00:26:13.44 is, "Did the Radical Rescue Plan 00:26:13.47\00:26:15.50 end when Jesus died on the cross?" 00:26:15.54\00:26:18.61 And so, then we give some Bible verses 00:26:18.64\00:26:21.14 and so those kids that are more advanced, 00:26:21.21\00:26:23.65 can go to their Bible and be able to explain that. 00:26:23.68\00:26:26.41 Research, absolutely, absolutely. 00:26:26.45\00:26:29.45 Now what age range is this Kit for? 00:26:29.52\00:26:32.45 It starts at age four and goes to age twelve 00:26:32.49\00:26:35.49 and the activities, of course the songs 00:26:35.56\00:26:37.63 kids will appreciate at any age, 00:26:37.66\00:26:39.76 but there are some of the arts and crafts 00:26:39.79\00:26:42.80 that are more age focused so, four to six, 00:26:42.83\00:26:45.80 there are specific crafts for them 00:26:45.83\00:26:47.90 and then from ages seven to twelve, 00:26:47.94\00:26:50.11 there are crafts that they can do... 00:26:50.17\00:26:52.17 that are little bit more, you know, mature 00:26:52.21\00:26:54.51 so we've tried to include materials 00:26:54.54\00:26:56.75 that cover that whole age range from four to twelve. 00:26:56.81\00:27:00.55 Wow! and what age do you recommend that the Instructor be 00:27:00.58\00:27:05.85 what's the minimum age that you would recommend? 00:27:05.89\00:27:09.19 Well, you know, if the materials are here, 00:27:09.22\00:27:12.46 you could have teenagers that are giving the Bible Stories 00:27:12.49\00:27:16.36 because they have the scripts 00:27:16.43\00:27:17.77 and they can get dressed up if they want to, you know, 00:27:17.80\00:27:20.94 and it's also a good way to incorporate the teenagers 00:27:20.97\00:27:24.11 because then they're learning 00:27:24.14\00:27:25.47 and then they're actually feeling a part of it as well, 00:27:25.51\00:27:28.11 so it covers everybody. 00:27:28.14\00:27:29.48 Thank you so much for joining us today 00:27:29.51\00:27:31.85 and thank you for answering the calling 00:27:31.88\00:27:34.45 that God has placed on your life. 00:27:34.48\00:27:35.88 Thank you. You're welcome. 00:27:35.95\00:27:37.49 It's extremely important that we teach the youth 00:27:37.52\00:27:40.86 about Jesus and the Sanctuary message, 00:27:40.89\00:27:42.86 you know, one day these kids are going to grow up 00:27:42.89\00:27:45.43 and they are going to be our future leaders, 00:27:45.46\00:27:47.13 it's very important that we instill 00:27:47.20\00:27:49.26 Biblical principles in their lives. 00:27:49.30\00:27:51.20 Well, we've reached the end of another Program, 00:27:51.23\00:27:54.20 join us next time, and remember, 00:27:54.24\00:27:56.77 it just wouldn't be the same, without you. 00:27:56.81\00:28:00.14