Stay tuned to meet a woman who has overcome adversity 00:00:01.33\00:00:03.23 and teaches others to do so too. 00:00:03.26\00:00:05.37 My name is Yvonne Lewis 00:00:05.40\00:00:07.00 and you're watching Urban Report. 00:00:07.10\00:00:08.90 Hello and welcome to Urban Report. 00:00:32.96\00:00:35.36 My guest today is Camille McKenzie, 00:00:35.40\00:00:37.80 Lifestyle Coach and Author of 00:00:37.83\00:00:40.07 "Long Journey to Freedom: 00:00:40.10\00:00:41.70 Seven Steps to Confidence and Joy. " 00:00:41.77\00:00:44.47 Welcome to Urban Report Camille. 00:00:44.51\00:00:46.81 Thank you Yvonne for having me, it's a pleasure. 00:00:46.84\00:00:48.71 Oh, it's so great to have you, you know, 00:00:48.74\00:00:51.15 first I met you at the event that "True Health TV" had 00:00:51.18\00:00:57.75 which is a wonderful... 00:00:57.79\00:00:59.19 it is an affiliate of Dare to Dream, 00:00:59.25\00:01:01.72 in Atlanta and you and your husband 00:01:01.76\00:01:04.03 sat at our table with Jason and me, 00:01:04.06\00:01:06.83 and you told me you had written a book 00:01:06.90\00:01:09.60 but then you sent the book to me 00:01:09.63\00:01:12.30 and you sent the Trailer about the book 00:01:12.33\00:01:15.27 and before we really get into our interview, 00:01:15.30\00:01:18.54 I really would like for our Viewers 00:01:18.57\00:01:20.54 to see the Trailer, so they can kind of have a sense 00:01:20.58\00:01:23.51 of what the book is about 00:01:23.55\00:01:26.08 and then we'll talk about your journey. 00:01:26.11\00:01:27.82 Let's take a look at the Trailer. 00:01:27.85\00:01:29.28 Okay, Yvonne. 00:01:29.32\00:01:30.95 Music playing... 00:01:30.99\00:01:35.59 Locked Behind Bars 00:01:35.62\00:01:40.26 Locked Behind Bars of Mental Imprisonment 00:01:40.30\00:01:48.50 for 27 years. 00:01:48.54\00:01:55.84 But then the Son came and changed her life. 00:01:55.88\00:02:01.68 She has never been the same! 00:02:01.72\00:02:05.42 The Son took her out of prison. 00:02:05.49\00:02:09.22 By showing her the way to freedom. 00:02:09.26\00:02:12.99 He can do the same for you. 00:02:13.03\00:02:18.87 Are you locked behind bars of insecurity, 00:02:18.90\00:02:21.17 self-doubt and shame? 00:02:21.20\00:02:23.97 Are you living the life of your dreams? 00:02:24.01\00:02:26.41 Or is fear stopping you? 00:02:26.44\00:02:29.28 Do you want more joy, peace, love 00:02:29.31\00:02:32.38 and confidence in your life? 00:02:32.41\00:02:33.88 The power of choice. 00:02:33.92\00:02:38.02 The power of truth. 00:02:38.05\00:02:40.62 The power of thoughts. 00:02:40.66\00:02:43.59 The power of words. 00:02:43.63\00:02:46.66 The power of gratitude. 00:02:46.70\00:02:50.50 The power of contentment. 00:02:50.53\00:02:53.00 the Power of love. 00:02:53.03\00:02:56.10 Join Camille Mckenzie on a journey... 00:02:56.14\00:03:00.18 A journey to freedom. 00:03:00.21\00:03:06.31 Long Journey to Freedom. 00:03:06.35\00:03:12.69 She will show you the way to freedom. 00:03:12.72\00:03:19.29 www. longjourneytofreedom. com 00:03:19.33\00:03:26.07 music 00:03:26.10\00:03:32.17 Available at Amazon. com 00:03:32.21\00:03:38.81 What a lovely Promo... 00:03:38.85\00:03:43.65 Thank you Yvonne. 00:03:43.69\00:03:45.62 Lovely, and I... 00:03:45.65\00:03:47.26 as I read your book, 00:03:47.32\00:03:48.66 and I got a sense of your journey, 00:03:48.69\00:03:51.66 I thought, 00:03:51.73\00:03:53.06 "Well, this is so good" this is... 00:03:53.09\00:03:55.66 you have some very interesting things 00:03:55.70\00:03:58.43 that have happened to you, 00:03:58.47\00:03:59.80 let's talk a little bit about your journey. 00:03:59.83\00:04:03.51 So, as a child, what was going on in your life? 00:04:03.54\00:04:07.18 You start... you talk in the book about 00:04:07.21\00:04:08.84 drinking a poison and how the poison was... you know... 00:04:08.88\00:04:13.15 your father drank, and your grandfather drank, 00:04:13.18\00:04:15.65 what poison are you talking about? 00:04:15.72\00:04:17.29 The terminology of "poison" 00:04:17.32\00:04:20.26 is to really indicate to the reader that 00:04:20.29\00:04:22.29 what I am about to talk about 00:04:22.32\00:04:24.13 is something that can cause death, 00:04:24.16\00:04:25.66 it's lethal and the death that I'm talking 00:04:25.69\00:04:27.73 about is psychological 00:04:27.76\00:04:29.20 but sometimes takes a form of where it's physical 00:04:29.23\00:04:32.07 and what happened to me is that from ten years old, 00:04:32.10\00:04:35.04 I started to experience extreme bullying at school. 00:04:35.07\00:04:38.54 I think the skies of inferiority had already started to 00:04:38.57\00:04:42.01 wash over me, 00:04:42.04\00:04:43.41 I already started to sense that within my little young mind 00:04:43.45\00:04:46.92 I think, just growing up 00:04:46.98\00:04:49.08 and looking at other people, comparing myself to them, 00:04:49.12\00:04:51.22 and just... not feeling that I was good enough, 00:04:51.25\00:04:53.52 but the poison ultimately was in school, 00:04:53.56\00:04:56.56 in school I was teased mercilessly about who I was 00:04:56.62\00:05:00.63 and thinking about that 00:05:00.66\00:05:02.53 and reflecting upon that each day that it was happening 00:05:02.56\00:05:05.10 just made me feel like 00:05:05.13\00:05:06.53 I was just this "complete nothing" 00:05:06.57\00:05:09.07 that God had created an absolute loser, 00:05:09.10\00:05:11.47 and I didn't deserve to be on earth 00:05:11.51\00:05:13.81 and so, at a young age I really wanted to take my life, 00:05:13.88\00:05:17.08 I didn't have the courage to do so, 00:05:17.15\00:05:19.35 but I wanted to, because the poison was 00:05:19.38\00:05:21.55 "you're not good enough, how God created you, 00:05:21.58\00:05:24.29 is absolutely wrong, and you need to know that" 00:05:24.32\00:05:26.99 and so I believed it. 00:05:27.06\00:05:28.39 You know, the whole situation with bullying 00:05:28.42\00:05:32.96 is so intense, I think that as adults, 00:05:32.99\00:05:36.03 and if we don't have young children, 00:05:36.06\00:05:39.50 we can minimize the impact of bullying, 00:05:39.53\00:05:42.90 but bullying is so prevalent and it's so damaging 00:05:42.94\00:05:47.64 and it's so impactful, 00:05:47.68\00:05:49.38 it can impact you for the rest of your life. 00:05:49.41\00:05:51.75 Amen... amen... 00:05:51.81\00:05:53.21 So, how did you navigate through that, 00:05:53.25\00:05:56.52 Camille, what did you do during those years to deal with that? 00:05:56.58\00:06:00.19 Great question, I did nothing, 00:06:00.22\00:06:02.82 I internalized it, 00:06:02.86\00:06:04.76 I sat silently each day as it was happening, 00:06:04.79\00:06:07.60 and I just assumed that 00:06:07.66\00:06:09.03 this was the way it was supposed to be. 00:06:09.06\00:06:10.40 Actually, I deserved it, you know, I was ugly, 00:06:10.47\00:06:13.47 I didn't look good and God created me to be a loser 00:06:13.54\00:06:16.81 so why not just accept what was happening to me, 00:06:16.84\00:06:19.14 so it continued to happen 00:06:19.17\00:06:20.68 because I didn't do anything about it 00:06:20.71\00:06:22.51 and at the end of the day, Yvonne, 00:06:22.54\00:06:24.25 I think, one of the messages that God 00:06:24.28\00:06:25.91 wants to really get through to those who read the book is 00:06:25.98\00:06:29.72 this, "Bullying is not a small issue, 00:06:29.75\00:06:32.42 it is a serious issue because as you said, 00:06:32.49\00:06:34.82 it has an impact that can last for long years to come. " 00:06:34.89\00:06:38.96 It is that studies have been done 00:06:38.99\00:06:41.66 in which people who have been studied, 00:06:41.70\00:06:44.37 they realize until 50-years old or older, 00:06:44.40\00:06:47.00 they are still dealing with the mental and emotional scars 00:06:47.04\00:06:50.77 of bullying and physical scars as well, 00:06:50.81\00:06:53.34 because your body starts to experience different stresses 00:06:53.38\00:06:56.18 because of what they're experiencing 00:06:56.21\00:06:58.15 so bullying is not a small issue, 00:06:58.18\00:07:00.15 and I think the two things I want to highlight about it 00:07:00.18\00:07:03.32 is this... the first is the psychological death 00:07:03.35\00:07:05.82 that's the poison that I alluded to earlier, 00:07:05.85\00:07:08.29 the psychological death 00:07:08.32\00:07:09.92 of not feeling that you're good enough, 00:07:09.96\00:07:12.19 psychological death of being in a sense 00:07:12.23\00:07:14.66 someone who's living but really dead, 00:07:14.73\00:07:17.17 I don't want to live my life, 00:07:17.20\00:07:18.57 I'm here but I'm kind of 00:07:18.60\00:07:20.04 taking up space, that's where I was, 00:07:20.07\00:07:21.67 I'm just going through life every single day 00:07:21.70\00:07:23.84 doing what it is that I'm "supposed" to do 00:07:23.91\00:07:26.07 but I don't deserve to be here, 00:07:26.11\00:07:27.98 that was the mental space that I was in 00:07:28.01\00:07:30.05 and so, the psychological death 00:07:30.08\00:07:32.35 for someone who's bullied, that is really real, 00:07:32.38\00:07:34.58 you're not living your life, 00:07:34.62\00:07:36.22 the second thing as well is 00:07:36.25\00:07:37.79 that suicide is often very prevalent 00:07:37.82\00:07:40.66 for those who are bullied, 00:07:40.69\00:07:42.02 the other day I saw a startling statistic, 00:07:42.06\00:07:44.56 you're talking about, 00:07:44.59\00:07:45.93 it is the fourth leading cause of death, suicide that is... 00:07:45.96\00:07:49.00 among people who are... from the ages of ten to fourteen 00:07:49.03\00:07:52.07 and then also, 00:07:52.13\00:07:53.50 it is the third leading cause of death 00:07:53.54\00:07:55.80 for those who are in the age group from 15- to 24-years old 00:07:55.84\00:07:59.41 so this is serious, 00:07:59.44\00:08:01.04 God is seeing people who are precious in His sight, 00:08:01.08\00:08:04.28 created in His image, 00:08:04.31\00:08:05.65 but are not understanding who they are 00:08:05.68\00:08:07.98 and, therefore, are living lives that are really "dead. " 00:08:08.02\00:08:11.65 Oh, there are so many things that I can ask you from that. 00:08:11.69\00:08:15.26 How did your family deal with this whole thing, 00:08:15.32\00:08:21.80 did they know what was going on 00:08:21.83\00:08:23.20 how did you... was it being reinforced at home? 00:08:23.23\00:08:25.83 How did you deal with that at home? 00:08:25.87\00:08:28.54 Good question, I didn't say anything. 00:08:28.57\00:08:31.17 Is that often the case with kids that are being bullied? 00:08:31.21\00:08:35.38 Yeah, you're silent and parents don't know about it 00:08:35.41\00:08:37.98 until... sometimes it's too late. 00:08:38.01\00:08:39.38 In my case, I hardly said anything about anything 00:08:39.41\00:08:43.39 much less bullying, I was very quiet 00:08:43.42\00:08:45.99 and just introverted and so with the bullying, 00:08:46.02\00:08:48.66 that was no different, I said nothing 00:08:48.69\00:08:50.63 and the only way that my parents found out 00:08:50.66\00:08:53.53 about it particularly my mom, 00:08:53.60\00:08:54.93 was she found the letter that I wrote, 00:08:54.93\00:08:56.77 and she saw in that letter details in which... 00:08:56.83\00:08:59.10 I indicated that she wanted to take my life, 00:08:59.13\00:09:01.54 she saw a knife in the picture, and she realized, 00:09:01.57\00:09:04.24 "Oh my gosh, this is happening" 00:09:04.27\00:09:05.84 she spoke to me about it, I told her what I was thinking 00:09:05.87\00:09:09.61 and she just assured me that "Camille, you're beautiful, 00:09:09.64\00:09:13.28 you don't need to think about ending your life" 00:09:13.31\00:09:17.12 but I still felt the way that I felt inside, 00:09:17.15\00:09:20.22 the healing wasn't there. 00:09:20.29\00:09:21.79 You know, when you think about the passages that we go through, 00:09:21.82\00:09:26.86 in childhood, 00:09:26.93\00:09:28.66 going on into adulthood, and you think about 00:09:28.70\00:09:30.97 all of the natural feelings of inferiority, 00:09:31.00\00:09:34.87 lack of self-confidence, 00:09:34.90\00:09:36.37 that a teenager kind of automatically feels, 00:09:36.40\00:09:39.61 and then you compound that with the bullying, 00:09:39.64\00:09:42.78 that has got to be it's, as you said, 00:09:42.81\00:09:47.05 it's leading to suicide, Right. 00:09:47.12\00:09:49.25 and often we hear on the News about this young person 00:09:49.28\00:09:53.96 was bullied 00:09:54.06\00:09:55.39 and they committed suicide 00:09:55.42\00:09:57.23 Right, right, right, hmmm... hmmm... 00:09:57.26\00:09:58.63 and you wanted... you know, you think, 00:09:58.66\00:10:01.16 "Wow! is it that bad, can it be that bad?" 00:10:01.20\00:10:03.73 And obviously it is, obviously it is... 00:10:03.77\00:10:06.70 day after day after day, being told that you're nothing 00:10:06.80\00:10:10.91 that has got to be so painful. 00:10:10.94\00:10:14.64 It is Yvonne, you know, the thing with bullying is this, 00:10:14.68\00:10:18.25 when we think about what the Bible says 00:10:18.28\00:10:20.48 that death and life is in the power of the tongue, 00:10:20.52\00:10:22.95 that is a pretty powerful statement 00:10:22.98\00:10:25.25 we often think with words... that words are just "words" 00:10:25.29\00:10:27.86 and so when we think of bullying, 00:10:27.89\00:10:29.66 "Stick and stones may break my bones 00:10:29.69\00:10:31.29 but words will never hurt me" 00:10:31.33\00:10:32.66 so when we hear about bullying, 00:10:32.69\00:10:34.03 and we say, "that's a side issue, 00:10:34.10\00:10:35.40 come on now, get over that, 00:10:35.43\00:10:36.77 were talking about that, it's just a little thing" 00:10:36.80\00:10:39.33 but God doesn't recognize it as that, 00:10:39.37\00:10:41.60 when He sees the impact that that is having on young lives 00:10:41.64\00:10:44.94 and that, not just the lives of a young person 00:10:44.97\00:10:48.78 but ultimately they are going into adulthood with these issues 00:10:48.81\00:10:51.98 that the dreams and the passion that He has for their lives, 00:10:52.01\00:10:55.18 the purpose that He has for their lives, 00:10:55.22\00:10:56.65 that ultimately can be aborted 00:10:56.72\00:10:58.35 because of how they see themselves, 00:10:58.39\00:10:59.89 God says, "You know what, I want this to be an issue 00:10:59.92\00:11:03.73 that is recognized as serious" 00:11:03.76\00:11:05.73 and ultimately, 00:11:05.76\00:11:07.10 I believe that part of the calling of God in life, 00:11:07.13\00:11:09.66 is to take that particular message to the world, 00:11:09.70\00:11:12.30 it's to say, at the end of the day 00:11:12.33\00:11:13.90 whether you are a young child, or whether you are an adult, 00:11:13.94\00:11:18.04 your words have incredible power, 00:11:18.07\00:11:20.28 you have the power to be able to speak life... 00:11:20.34\00:11:22.98 in the life of other people, or you have the opportunity 00:11:23.01\00:11:25.55 to also speak something else which is that, 00:11:25.58\00:11:27.78 God says, "Choose life, 00:11:27.82\00:11:29.25 speak life in those in whom you meet" 00:11:29.28\00:11:31.39 and the world will begin to blossom 00:11:31.42\00:11:33.46 into a place in which all of us 00:11:33.52\00:11:34.86 can feel a greater sense of hope, resiliency and love. 00:11:34.89\00:11:38.49 Come on now, I love that, I love that, 00:11:38.53\00:11:41.23 you know, as I listen to you Camille, 00:11:41.26\00:11:45.50 you have taken this adversity, this pain, 00:11:45.53\00:11:49.70 and God has allowed you to transform that into a purpose 00:11:49.74\00:11:55.24 from pain to purpose, Amen. 00:11:55.31\00:11:57.88 so now, you are on fire about delivering 00:11:57.91\00:12:02.38 this message of wholeness 00:12:02.42\00:12:04.69 and is that what inspired you to write this book? 00:12:04.72\00:12:07.99 How did you get inspired to write the book? 00:12:08.02\00:12:10.23 Great question, 00:12:10.26\00:12:11.83 the inspiration came from the One who gives, ultimately... 00:12:11.86\00:12:15.90 inspiration and calling, 00:12:15.93\00:12:17.43 my God and great Savior, Jesus Christ, 00:12:17.47\00:12:20.34 when I felt the impression of the Spirit to write the book, 00:12:20.40\00:12:23.91 I'm like, "Oh God, I could write but not necessarily about me" 00:12:23.97\00:12:27.48 you know, but, I understood, 00:12:27.54\00:12:30.11 when the impression came to write the book, "why" 00:12:30.15\00:12:32.78 I understood that lives needed to be saved, 00:12:32.81\00:12:35.62 I understood that calling... 00:12:35.65\00:12:37.45 some people's lives needed to be lived, 00:12:37.49\00:12:39.79 I understood that there are many people 00:12:39.82\00:12:42.12 who are going to their graves, 00:12:42.16\00:12:43.53 in a way in which they are dying, 00:12:43.59\00:12:45.23 and... they are dying empty, 00:12:45.26\00:12:46.96 and some of them are dying full, 00:12:47.03\00:12:48.66 but in the end their grave is the wealthiest place 00:12:48.70\00:12:51.37 on the planet, because so many people, 00:12:51.40\00:12:53.27 who found themselves in a place where they're limited within, 00:12:53.30\00:12:57.04 they do not know their own power, 00:12:57.07\00:12:59.37 they do not understand the power which God has given them, 00:12:59.41\00:13:02.71 and so they go through lives as I said, "dead men walking" 00:13:02.74\00:13:05.95 not living the lives that God has called them to live, 00:13:05.98\00:13:09.12 so the inspiration ultimately came from God, 00:13:09.15\00:13:11.65 and from that, 00:13:11.69\00:13:13.02 I decided that I wanted to see young girls around the world 00:13:13.05\00:13:17.23 rise up and see themselves as how God sees them. 00:13:17.26\00:13:19.93 Yes, and it's so important 00:13:20.00\00:13:22.00 to have a different picture of ourselves 00:13:22.03\00:13:25.70 than the one the enemy tries to plant within our heads, 00:13:25.77\00:13:30.01 Amen. and in this Society, 00:13:30.07\00:13:31.77 there is such an emphasis on how you look 00:13:31.81\00:13:36.38 and what color you are and all of these things, 00:13:36.41\00:13:40.38 that should not play into it but they do 00:13:40.42\00:13:44.75 and we internalize that Right. 00:13:44.79\00:13:47.06 and then we're just kind of stuck in this morass of pain 00:13:47.12\00:13:52.93 so, the Holy Spirit inspired you to take your pain 00:13:52.99\00:13:57.77 and make it your purpose, and that's what you're doing 00:13:57.83\00:14:02.67 how would you... 00:14:02.74\00:14:04.11 if you were talking to the "Camille" of fifteen, 00:14:04.14\00:14:09.64 what would you say to her? 00:14:09.68\00:14:12.48 I would have so much to say to her 00:14:12.51\00:14:14.42 the book ultimately... is what I would say to "me" 00:14:14.45\00:14:17.72 and that's why, "Long Journey to Freedom" 00:14:17.75\00:14:20.69 was ultimately written, 00:14:20.76\00:14:22.09 I believe God wanted me to use the pain that I had experienced, 00:14:22.12\00:14:24.96 to help someone else, 00:14:24.99\00:14:26.33 so if there is one young girl out there 00:14:26.36\00:14:28.26 that would pick up that book and say, 00:14:28.30\00:14:30.33 "My gosh, I don't want to go where she was 00:14:30.37\00:14:33.60 27 years for life, 00:14:33.64\00:14:36.24 I want that shortcut, I'm going to read that book. " 00:14:36.27\00:14:40.04 Talk to her, talk to her in that camera, 00:14:40.08\00:14:41.41 "Young lady, young girl, wherever you are in the world, 00:14:41.48\00:14:44.25 what I say to you is, 00:14:44.28\00:14:45.65 first and foremost understand who you are, 00:14:45.68\00:14:48.25 that your Creator has called you beautiful 00:14:48.28\00:14:50.55 that your Creator has called you blessed 00:14:50.59\00:14:52.99 and that He wants you to pick up a mirror, 00:14:53.02\00:14:55.42 a mirror that is not found on earth 00:14:55.46\00:14:57.59 but a mirror that has been built in heaven 00:14:57.63\00:14:59.63 it's called the 'Word of God,' 00:14:59.66\00:15:01.13 and He wants you to search it daily 00:15:01.16\00:15:03.20 to understand who you are and whose you are, 00:15:03.23\00:15:05.97 once you do that 00:15:06.00\00:15:07.34 you'll no longer struggle with who you are. " 00:15:07.37\00:15:11.77 That is so good, and if young men and women 00:15:11.81\00:15:16.18 could just internalize "whose" they are as well, 00:15:16.21\00:15:20.42 that they belong to the Lord and that God has a plan for them 00:15:20.52\00:15:25.05 often on this Program, Camille, we talk about Jeremiah 29:11 00:15:25.09\00:15:29.59 that's like my favorite, my new favorite verse, I think, 00:15:29.62\00:15:34.10 because I allude to it all the time 00:15:34.20\00:15:36.30 about God's thoughts toward us, 00:15:36.33\00:15:38.43 thoughts of peace and not of evil to give us... 00:15:38.47\00:15:41.04 in NIV it says, "a future and a hope" 00:15:41.10\00:15:44.07 and in the King James, it is, "to give us an expected end" 00:15:44.11\00:15:48.91 and so, that says, there is a plan 00:15:48.94\00:15:51.75 and no one can fulfill that plan for you, 00:15:51.78\00:15:58.12 you were created to do that, and once you find that, 00:15:58.15\00:16:02.82 you have found... your divine purpose. 00:16:02.86\00:16:05.23 Tell us what it feels like now as compared to where you were. 00:16:05.26\00:16:10.27 Words can't express it, 00:16:10.30\00:16:13.34 it is the most powerful place on earth to be in. 00:16:13.37\00:16:17.21 I wish this for every single person on the planet, 00:16:17.24\00:16:20.58 that whatever it is that God has called them to do, 00:16:20.61\00:16:23.78 that they would find themselves 00:16:23.85\00:16:25.55 right in the middle of that purpose 00:16:25.58\00:16:27.82 because once you live in that purpose, 00:16:27.85\00:16:30.02 there is a peace that surpasses all understanding, 00:16:30.09\00:16:34.06 there is a joy that grips your soul, 00:16:34.09\00:16:36.39 that allows you to live life with passion 00:16:36.42\00:16:39.03 and just with a sense of just... 00:16:39.06\00:16:41.23 "Thank God I am here I can't wait for the next day" 00:16:41.26\00:16:45.37 I want that for others, 00:16:45.40\00:16:47.30 I want them to dream a bigger dream for themselves 00:16:47.34\00:16:50.87 because ultimately God has dreamed it for them. 00:16:50.91\00:16:53.74 I like the way you said, "God's dream for us" 00:16:53.78\00:16:56.54 because God has His own plan for us, 00:16:56.58\00:17:00.25 and Satan has a plan, and God has a plan, 00:17:00.35\00:17:03.22 Satan's plan is to take you from here 00:17:03.25\00:17:06.42 and spiral you downward and destroy you 00:17:06.45\00:17:09.62 but God's plan is to lift us up 00:17:09.66\00:17:12.69 and to give us the abundant life through Jesus Christ 00:17:12.73\00:17:15.20 and what a difference, Satan kind of lured you 00:17:15.23\00:17:19.37 with different things just to bait you, 00:17:19.40\00:17:21.90 get you into the trap and then... take you down. 00:17:21.94\00:17:25.61 It's amazing, but God has this way 00:17:25.64\00:17:30.25 of taking the darkest times 00:17:30.28\00:17:32.38 and bringing something out of that 00:17:32.41\00:17:35.02 and you know... you know that... first hand 00:17:35.05\00:17:38.29 because you went through another very dark time 00:17:38.32\00:17:41.49 after the bullying, tell us about that. 00:17:41.52\00:17:43.26 Yeah, oh yeah, 00:17:43.29\00:17:45.29 wow! two times that I never would have expected, 00:17:45.33\00:17:47.40 was that, my young husband at 34-years old, 00:17:47.40\00:17:51.47 one morning got up 00:17:51.53\00:17:52.90 and just started to complain that he wasn't feeling too well 00:17:52.93\00:17:56.47 that was not normal so I took that to be 00:17:56.54\00:17:59.11 something very serious, long story short, 00:17:59.14\00:18:01.74 what ended up happening, Yvonne, at 7:38 on November 14, 2009, 00:18:01.78\00:18:06.28 I was told that my husband, at that time, was dead, 00:18:06.31\00:18:10.52 and that was 00:18:10.62\00:18:12.69 one of the most devastating experiences of my entire life 00:18:12.72\00:18:15.62 because I loved him so much, 00:18:15.66\00:18:17.66 we were college sweethearts and he meant the world to me 00:18:17.69\00:18:22.36 and I honestly did not believe that I could live without him, 00:18:22.40\00:18:26.00 I thought that I would ultimately 00:18:26.07\00:18:28.40 not be able to survive it, but God... 00:18:28.44\00:18:31.04 Yvonne: But God... Camille: But God. 00:18:31.07\00:18:33.07 And it just happened all of a sudden? 00:18:33.11\00:18:35.51 All of a sudden, no warning... nothing... 00:18:35.54\00:18:37.85 what he died of was something that is considered 00:18:37.88\00:18:41.18 a silent part of a heart attack 00:18:41.22\00:18:44.35 when you have a silent coronary disease, 00:18:44.39\00:18:47.19 and it was just... one time it happened... 00:18:47.26\00:18:49.86 and that was it, 00:18:49.89\00:18:51.23 and the time that it happened, it took his life. 00:18:51.26\00:18:53.43 Other people may get other opportunities 00:18:53.50\00:18:56.06 to live through it, he did not, 00:18:56.10\00:18:57.73 and so, my world was devastated by that completely 00:18:57.77\00:19:02.64 without hope as to how I was going to get through it, 00:19:02.67\00:19:07.64 but God stepped in, and reminded me who He was 00:19:07.68\00:19:11.25 and His ability to help me, and so I remember 00:19:11.28\00:19:14.38 just praying in my living room and telling God, 00:19:14.42\00:19:18.02 "God, I don't know, I see nothing around me 00:19:18.05\00:19:21.59 but a complete darkness, 00:19:21.62\00:19:22.96 but, I know that you can take this broken heart 00:19:22.99\00:19:25.99 and continue, you can take this broken life 00:19:26.03\00:19:29.03 and you can make something out of it" 00:19:29.06\00:19:31.63 and He has. 00:19:31.67\00:19:33.27 Amen, amen, so, your response to the dark time 00:19:33.34\00:19:38.91 was not to draw away from God, 00:19:38.94\00:19:41.48 but it was to draw closer to Him. 00:19:41.51\00:19:43.95 Did you find comfort and peace during that time? 00:19:44.05\00:19:49.35 How did it manifest? 00:19:49.38\00:19:50.92 I certainly did, my message to people everywhere 00:19:50.99\00:19:54.59 is ultimately this... that if you are not connected 00:19:54.62\00:19:58.26 to the God of the universe, 00:19:58.29\00:19:59.63 I pray that you will become connected to Him 00:19:59.66\00:20:02.20 because, if you're not going through a storm now, 00:20:02.23\00:20:05.43 you ultimately will, 00:20:05.47\00:20:06.80 and there is no way that you can endure that 00:20:06.84\00:20:09.37 without the power of God, because He brought me through it 00:20:09.44\00:20:14.14 and He knew ten months later 00:20:14.18\00:20:16.38 I was going to be dealing with something else, 00:20:16.44\00:20:18.55 and that was the loss of my dad, 00:20:18.61\00:20:20.78 ten months later, my dad died of Pancreatic Cancer 00:20:20.82\00:20:24.19 and two months prior to that when I got the diagnosis, 00:20:24.25\00:20:27.56 I was just completely just not here... 00:20:27.62\00:20:31.19 it was like, "How is this happening God, 00:20:31.23\00:20:34.76 I lost my husband, and now my dad?" 00:20:34.83\00:20:36.90 But the reality was that God stepped in again 00:20:36.93\00:20:40.57 and His ability, through particularly His words 00:20:40.60\00:20:44.14 to just reassures you that you can get through this, 00:20:44.17\00:20:47.41 is amazing, so, at the end of the day 00:20:47.44\00:20:50.61 what I would say to people is this... 00:20:50.68\00:20:52.01 God makes it clear in His Word 00:20:52.05\00:20:54.28 that "My power is made perfect in your weakness" 00:20:54.32\00:20:58.32 so I will boast of my weakness 00:20:58.35\00:21:00.36 so that the power of Christ rests on me. 00:21:00.39\00:21:04.23 Yes, yes, and look at God, look at how God... 00:21:04.26\00:21:08.90 in spite of the dark time, and He always does this, 00:21:08.93\00:21:13.07 in the wilderness period, you know, 00:21:13.10\00:21:15.97 we wouldn't... when you look back on it, 00:21:16.00\00:21:18.37 you wouldn't trade the closeness with God for anything, 00:21:18.41\00:21:21.81 you don't want to go through the wilderness, obviously, 00:21:21.88\00:21:25.48 but when you're there, once you've gone through it, 00:21:25.51\00:21:28.85 you look back and you say, "Wow! God held me up, 00:21:28.92\00:21:32.22 He held me up through that dark time" 00:21:32.25\00:21:35.26 and then you lost your husband, you lost your dad, 00:21:35.32\00:21:39.09 but when your dad was being cared for, 00:21:39.13\00:21:42.26 tell us about the young man who was caring for your dad. 00:21:42.30\00:21:46.43 Oh, God is great, He is good, 00:21:46.47\00:21:50.17 this is ultimately the story of my life, 00:21:50.24\00:21:52.47 is His greatness, to bring you through anything 00:21:52.51\00:21:55.11 but also to bring some powerful, positive great things 00:21:55.14\00:21:58.35 along with it, Yes, yes. 00:21:58.38\00:22:00.32 and so, throughout my experience with taking care of my dad, 00:22:00.35\00:22:02.92 they talked about bringing in an Alternative Healer 00:22:02.95\00:22:07.16 to work on him, He was at this point, Yvonne, 00:22:07.19\00:22:10.06 where literally it was... there was no hope, 00:22:10.13\00:22:12.96 he was going to die. 00:22:12.99\00:22:14.30 Pancreatic Cancer is very serious 00:22:14.36\00:22:16.40 and it works very quickly. 00:22:16.43\00:22:18.07 You got it, you absolutely got it right 00:22:18.10\00:22:20.40 and it did in his case, so we saw that happening 00:22:20.44\00:22:22.97 but my dad still had hope, 00:22:23.00\00:22:24.61 he was a man of faith and he said, 00:22:24.64\00:22:25.97 "You know what, I want to try whatever 00:22:26.01\00:22:27.98 there still is out there" 00:22:28.01\00:22:29.78 so, my parents called around 00:22:29.81\00:22:31.55 and found that there was this "Alternative Healer" 00:22:31.58\00:22:35.48 that he was a Medical Missionary, 00:22:35.52\00:22:37.25 I had no idea what that was 00:22:37.29\00:22:38.92 because I wasn't an Adventist so I was clueless. 00:22:38.95\00:22:41.66 Oh you weren't an Adventist at this point? 00:22:41.69\00:22:43.69 No, I was a Methodist at that point so, I'm just like, 00:22:43.73\00:22:46.53 "Okay, let's see what this turns out to be" 00:22:46.56\00:22:48.60 very skeptical and ultimately God did something amazing 00:22:48.63\00:22:53.13 I found myself working with him and taking care of my dad, 00:22:53.17\00:22:57.61 and starting to feel feelings... could it be love? 00:22:57.64\00:23:03.58 And so, I started falling in love with him 00:23:03.65\00:23:06.72 and he was as well, and ultimately we got married. 00:23:06.75\00:23:09.75 Now, look at God, and even in the midst of the 00:23:09.78\00:23:13.66 hardest times, He stepped in 00:23:13.69\00:23:16.19 and showed His love for you 00:23:16.26\00:23:18.69 by providing a "Houseband" for you. 00:23:18.73\00:23:22.23 Yes, yes, He provided sunshine in the midst of storm 00:23:22.26\00:23:25.87 and I think that's what I love about God 00:23:25.90\00:23:28.24 is that He is so redemptive, 00:23:28.27\00:23:30.21 He has a power to be able to take the things of life 00:23:30.27\00:23:33.11 that aren't too pleasant and make lemonade out of it. 00:23:33.14\00:23:35.91 Yes. So I love Him for that, 00:23:35.94\00:23:37.35 and I love His ability to bring us through 00:23:37.41\00:23:39.41 to help us to know that, "You know what, 00:23:39.45\00:23:41.08 there are always sunny days ahead. " 00:23:41.12\00:23:42.68 Absolutely, and another thing is so great about God 00:23:42.72\00:23:45.49 since we're just praising Him right now 00:23:45.52\00:23:48.06 another thing is, He can make one move 00:23:48.09\00:23:50.59 and accomplish several things with one move. 00:23:50.63\00:23:53.76 Like your dad... was getting somewhat better, 00:23:53.80\00:23:56.90 during that time, and then, 00:23:56.93\00:23:59.20 He also... God brought you a husband, 00:23:59.23\00:24:01.90 He knew what you needed, Yes. 00:24:01.94\00:24:03.81 you know the two main men in your life, 00:24:03.84\00:24:06.47 had been removed, and God sent you 00:24:06.51\00:24:09.51 another husband and what a blessing, 00:24:09.54\00:24:12.48 what a blessing. 00:24:12.51\00:24:14.12 Amen, and you know Yvonne, 00:24:14.15\00:24:16.05 I wouldn't have chosen that path for myself 00:24:16.08\00:24:18.09 because after my first husband, I was going to remain a widow, 00:24:18.12\00:24:21.09 I just believed that there was no other man on the earth 00:24:21.12\00:24:24.06 that could eclipse him... that could surpass who he was 00:24:24.13\00:24:27.00 but God ended up proving me wrong. 00:24:27.03\00:24:30.23 Amen. I'm glad He did. 00:24:30.27\00:24:32.10 God is good, so, let's just get back 00:24:32.13\00:24:36.91 to the seven steps in that long journey toward freedom. 00:24:36.97\00:24:41.41 What are those seven steps, just give us a little hint 00:24:41.44\00:24:45.88 of each one and whoa, our time is running out 00:24:45.91\00:24:48.15 I can't believe it, our time is running out, 00:24:48.18\00:24:50.35 so just give us a little taste of what are those seven steps. 00:24:50.39\00:24:53.92 All right, the seven steps are pretty much proven to work. 00:24:53.96\00:24:57.49 The first is thinking about the power of choice. 00:24:57.53\00:25:01.03 When we talk about choice, we often don't realize that 00:25:01.10\00:25:04.47 this is something that's often taken for granted 00:25:04.50\00:25:07.04 but in every situation in life, you have the power to choose 00:25:07.07\00:25:10.01 whether or not you will make that situation 00:25:10.04\00:25:12.14 a great one or whether or not you're going to deteriorate 00:25:12.17\00:25:14.31 that experience into a negative one. 00:25:14.34\00:25:16.44 Then there's the power of thought 00:25:16.48\00:25:18.41 where... how do you think about 00:25:18.45\00:25:20.32 whatever events are happening in your life, 00:25:20.35\00:25:22.18 is it in a way that is going to lead to life 00:25:22.22\00:25:24.62 or is it in a way that is going to lead to death. 00:25:24.65\00:25:26.49 Then you have the power of words. 00:25:26.52\00:25:28.52 The words in which we speak, I talk about that... 00:25:28.59\00:25:30.93 obviously my experience with bullying, 00:25:30.96\00:25:32.93 that that has incredible power, not only just who you're like 00:25:32.96\00:25:36.26 but the lives of other people, 00:25:36.30\00:25:37.63 and then we have the power of gratitude. 00:25:37.67\00:25:40.50 Gratitude can cure a multitude of ills, 00:25:40.54\00:25:43.04 it can make you sing in times of great darkness 00:25:43.07\00:25:45.94 it is one of the most powerful forces on the planet 00:25:45.97\00:25:49.24 and there are many others, I don't know if we have time 00:25:49.28\00:25:52.51 to talk about the others, We do. 00:25:52.55\00:25:54.18 Okay, all right, and in regards to the other ones, 00:25:54.22\00:25:57.35 the power of contentment, 00:25:57.39\00:25:59.12 being able to realize at the end of the day 00:25:59.15\00:26:01.72 that what is... is what is... 00:26:01.76\00:26:03.12 I can still soar, I can still look for other ways 00:26:03.16\00:26:05.69 in which my life can be better, 00:26:05.73\00:26:07.03 but in the meantime, I can be able to say, 00:26:07.13\00:26:09.03 "God, thank you for where I am today. " 00:26:09.06\00:26:11.13 So, the power of love, 00:26:11.17\00:26:13.34 that is one of the powers that is the most purest 00:26:13.37\00:26:16.10 and fondest to my heart, because I believe that 00:26:16.14\00:26:18.87 as Dionne Warwick said, 00:26:18.91\00:26:20.28 "What the world needs is love sweet love" 00:26:20.31\00:26:22.21 when we have that love, 00:26:22.24\00:26:23.98 we can be able to bring people and ourselves 00:26:24.05\00:26:27.12 to a place that is just higher, 00:26:27.15\00:26:28.88 we live life higher, we're encouraged 00:26:28.95\00:26:31.25 and we are the ones who bring healing to the world. 00:26:31.29\00:26:33.86 So that is my message, 00:26:33.89\00:26:35.82 my message is that we have these powers, 00:26:35.86\00:26:38.46 these seven powers, 00:26:38.49\00:26:39.83 that can cure a multitude of ills. 00:26:39.86\00:26:41.90 Oh, that's incredible, and you are taking that... 00:26:41.93\00:26:46.27 that message to churches and wherever you're invited. 00:26:46.30\00:26:50.67 Right, right, right. 00:26:50.71\00:26:52.17 You want people to invite you to come 00:26:52.21\00:26:53.64 and share this message with their churches, 00:26:53.68\00:26:56.48 how can they reach you? 00:26:56.51\00:26:57.85 if you want to reach me, just go to: 00:26:57.88\00:27:00.25 www. longjourneytofreedom. com or 00:27:00.28\00:27:02.55 info@longjourneytofreedom. com 00:27:02.58\00:27:04.55 and I would love for you to go there 00:27:04.62\00:27:06.39 because I have a free offer for you, 00:27:06.42\00:27:08.16 so those of you 00:27:08.19\00:27:09.52 who would like to be coached by me 00:27:09.56\00:27:10.89 in terms of weight loss and just mind, body and spirit, 00:27:10.96\00:27:13.73 I would love to work with you, so contact me. 00:27:13.76\00:27:16.30 Oh great, so there's a free offer, 00:27:16.33\00:27:18.20 they can consult with you? 00:27:18.23\00:27:21.00 Absolutely, they will have that, 00:27:21.04\00:27:23.54 I would love to have the privilege of working with them. 00:27:23.61\00:27:25.61 Praise the Lord, well, thank you so much, 00:27:25.64\00:27:27.64 thank you so much for sharing your journey with us, 00:27:27.68\00:27:31.18 and for being transparent and just letting us know 00:27:31.21\00:27:34.68 what God has brought you through. 00:27:34.72\00:27:36.45 God bless you. 00:27:36.48\00:27:37.82 Thank you, Yvonne. Thank you. 00:27:37.85\00:27:39.19 And thank you so much for joining us. 00:27:39.22\00:27:41.66 It's really important that you "Like" us on Facebook 00:27:41.69\00:27:44.76 that you ask the Lord 00:27:44.79\00:27:46.83 just how you can support this ministry, 00:27:46.90\00:27:49.50 because, we really, really design Programs 00:27:49.53\00:27:52.13 with you in mind, 00:27:52.17\00:27:53.50 well, we've reached the end of another Program, 00:27:53.54\00:27:55.60 join us next time, because you know what? 00:27:55.64\00:27:57.97 It just wouldn't be the same... without you. 00:27:58.01\00:28:00.41