Stay tuned to meet a woman who has overcome adversity 00:00:01.36\00:00:03.30 and teaches others to do so too. 00:00:03.33\00:00:05.43 My name is Yvonne Lewis 00:00:05.47\00:00:07.07 and you're watching Urban Report. 00:00:07.14\00:00:08.97 Hello and welcome to Urban Report. 00:00:33.03\00:00:35.46 My guest today is Camille McKenzie, 00:00:35.50\00:00:37.90 Lifestyle Coach and Author of 00:00:37.93\00:00:40.17 "Long Journey to Freedom: 00:00:40.20\00:00:41.80 Seven Steps to Confidence and Joy. " 00:00:41.87\00:00:44.57 Welcome to Urban Report Camille. 00:00:44.61\00:00:46.91 Thank you Yvonne for having me, it's a pleasure. 00:00:46.94\00:00:48.81 Oh, it's so great to have you, you know, 00:00:48.84\00:00:51.25 first I met you at the event that "True Health TV" had 00:00:51.28\00:00:57.85 which is a wonderful... 00:00:57.89\00:00:59.29 it is an affiliate of Dare to Dream, 00:00:59.35\00:01:01.76 in Atlanta and you and your husband 00:01:01.79\00:01:04.06 sat at our table with Jason and me, 00:01:04.09\00:01:06.86 and you told me you had written a book 00:01:06.90\00:01:09.66 but then you sent the book to me 00:01:09.70\00:01:12.37 and you sent the Trailer about the book 00:01:12.40\00:01:15.34 and before we really get into our interview, 00:01:15.37\00:01:18.61 I really would like for our Viewers 00:01:18.64\00:01:20.58 to see the Trailer, so they can kind of have a sense 00:01:20.61\00:01:23.55 of what the book is about 00:01:23.61\00:01:26.15 and then we'll talk about your journey. 00:01:26.18\00:01:27.88 Let's take a look at the Trailer. 00:01:27.92\00:01:29.35 Okay, Yvonne. 00:01:29.38\00:01:30.99 Music playing... 00:01:31.02\00:01:35.66 Locked Behind Bars 00:01:35.69\00:01:40.30 Locked Behind Bars of Mental Imprisonment 00:01:40.33\00:01:48.60 for 27 years. 00:01:48.64\00:01:55.94 But then the Son came and changed her life. 00:01:55.98\00:02:01.72 She has never been the same! 00:02:01.75\00:02:05.45 The Son took her out of prison. 00:02:05.52\00:02:09.26 By showing her the way to freedom. 00:02:09.29\00:02:13.03 He can do the same for you. 00:02:13.06\00:02:18.93 Are you locked behind bars of insecurity, 00:02:18.97\00:02:21.24 self-doubt and shame? 00:02:21.27\00:02:24.01 Are you living the life of your dreams? 00:02:24.04\00:02:26.47 Or is fear stopping you? 00:02:26.51\00:02:29.34 Do you want more joy, peace, love 00:02:29.38\00:02:32.45 and confidence in your life? 00:02:32.48\00:02:33.92 The power of choice. 00:02:33.95\00:02:38.09 The power of truth. 00:02:38.12\00:02:40.69 The power of thoughts. 00:02:40.72\00:02:43.63 The power of words. 00:02:43.66\00:02:46.73 The power of gratitude. 00:02:46.76\00:02:50.60 The power of contentment. 00:02:50.63\00:02:53.10 the Power of love. 00:02:53.13\00:02:56.20 Join Camille Mckenzie on a journey... 00:02:56.24\00:03:00.21 A journey to freedom. 00:03:00.24\00:03:06.35 Long Journey to Freedom. 00:03:06.38\00:03:12.72 She will show you the way to freedom. 00:03:12.75\00:03:19.33 www. longjourneytofreedom. com 00:03:19.36\00:03:26.13 music 00:03:26.17\00:03:32.24 Available at Amazon. com 00:03:32.27\00:03:38.88 What a lovely Promo... 00:03:38.91\00:03:43.69 Thank you Yvonne. 00:03:43.72\00:03:45.69 Lovely, and I... 00:03:45.72\00:03:47.32 as I read your book, 00:03:47.36\00:03:48.69 and I got a sense of your journey, 00:03:48.72\00:03:51.73 I thought, 00:03:51.79\00:03:53.13 "Well, this is so good" this is... 00:03:53.16\00:03:55.76 you have some very interesting things 00:03:55.80\00:03:58.53 that have happened to you, 00:03:58.57\00:03:59.90 let's talk a little bit about your journey. 00:03:59.93\00:04:03.54 So, as a child, what was going on in your life? 00:04:03.57\00:04:07.18 You start... you talk in the book about 00:04:07.21\00:04:08.88 drinking a poison and how the poison was... you know... 00:04:08.91\00:04:13.18 your father drank, and your grandfather drank, 00:04:13.21\00:04:15.68 what poison are you talking about? 00:04:15.75\00:04:17.29 The terminology of "poison" 00:04:17.32\00:04:20.29 is to really indicate to the reader that 00:04:20.32\00:04:22.32 what I am about to talk about 00:04:22.36\00:04:24.13 is something that can cause death, 00:04:24.16\00:04:25.69 it's lethal and the death that I'm talking 00:04:25.73\00:04:27.76 about is psychological 00:04:27.80\00:04:29.26 but sometimes takes a form of where it's physical 00:04:29.30\00:04:32.13 and what happened to me is that from ten years old, 00:04:32.17\00:04:35.10 I started to experience extreme bullying at school. 00:04:35.14\00:04:38.61 I think the skies of inferiority had already started to 00:04:38.64\00:04:42.08 wash over me, 00:04:42.11\00:04:43.45 I already started to sense that within my little young mind 00:04:43.48\00:04:46.98 I think, just growing up 00:04:47.02\00:04:49.15 and looking at other people, comparing myself to them, 00:04:49.18\00:04:51.29 and just... not feeling that I was good enough, 00:04:51.32\00:04:53.56 but the poison ultimately was in school, 00:04:53.59\00:04:56.62 in school I was teased mercilessly about who I was 00:04:56.69\00:05:00.63 and thinking about that 00:05:00.66\00:05:02.56 and reflecting upon that each day that it was happening 00:05:02.60\00:05:05.13 just made me feel like 00:05:05.17\00:05:06.57 I was just this "complete nothing" 00:05:06.60\00:05:09.10 that God had created an absolute loser, 00:05:09.14\00:05:11.51 and I didn't deserve to be on earth 00:05:11.54\00:05:13.84 and so, at a young age I really wanted to take my life, 00:05:13.88\00:05:17.11 I didn't have the courage to do so, 00:05:17.15\00:05:19.38 but I wanted to, because the poison was 00:05:19.41\00:05:21.58 "you're not good enough, how God created you, 00:05:21.62\00:05:24.32 is absolutely wrong, and you need to know that" 00:05:24.35\00:05:27.02 and so I believed it. 00:05:27.06\00:05:28.39 You know, the whole situation with bullying 00:05:28.42\00:05:32.99 is so intense, I think that as adults, 00:05:33.03\00:05:36.10 and if we don't have young children, 00:05:36.13\00:05:39.57 we can minimize the impact of bullying, 00:05:39.60\00:05:42.97 but bullying is so prevalent and it's so damaging 00:05:43.00\00:05:47.71 and it's so impactful, 00:05:47.74\00:05:49.44 it can impact you for the rest of your life. 00:05:49.48\00:05:51.81 Amen... amen... 00:05:51.88\00:05:53.28 So, how did you navigate through that, 00:05:53.31\00:05:56.58 Camille, what did you do during those years to deal with that? 00:05:56.65\00:06:00.16 Great question, I did nothing, 00:06:00.22\00:06:02.82 I internalized it, 00:06:02.86\00:06:04.76 I sat silently each day as it was happening, 00:06:04.79\00:06:07.60 and I just assumed that 00:06:07.63\00:06:09.06 this was the way it was supposed to be. 00:06:09.10\00:06:10.43 Actually, I deserved it, you know, I was ugly, 00:06:10.47\00:06:13.50 I didn't look good and God created me to be a loser 00:06:13.54\00:06:16.84 so why not just accept what was happening to me, 00:06:16.87\00:06:19.17 so it continued to happen 00:06:19.21\00:06:20.71 because I didn't do anything about it 00:06:20.74\00:06:22.54 and at the end of the day, Yvonne, 00:06:22.58\00:06:24.28 I think, one of the messages that God 00:06:24.31\00:06:25.95 wants to really get through to those who read the book is 00:06:26.01\00:06:29.75 this, "Bullying is not a small issue, 00:06:29.78\00:06:32.45 it is a serious issue because as you said, 00:06:32.52\00:06:34.86 it has an impact that can last for long years to come. " 00:06:34.92\00:06:38.99 It is that studies have been done 00:06:39.03\00:06:41.73 in which people who have been studied, 00:06:41.76\00:06:44.43 they realize until 50-years old or older, 00:06:44.47\00:06:47.04 they are still dealing with the mental and emotional scars 00:06:47.07\00:06:50.81 of bullying and physical scars as well, 00:06:50.87\00:06:53.38 because your body starts to experience different stresses 00:06:53.41\00:06:56.24 because of what they're experiencing 00:06:56.28\00:06:58.21 so bullying is not a small issue, 00:06:58.25\00:07:00.12 and I think the two things I want to highlight about it 00:07:00.18\00:07:03.32 is this... the first is the psychological death 00:07:03.35\00:07:05.82 that's the poison that I alluded to earlier, 00:07:05.85\00:07:08.29 the psychological death 00:07:08.32\00:07:09.92 of not feeling that you're good enough, 00:07:09.96\00:07:12.19 psychological death of being in a sense 00:07:12.23\00:07:14.70 someone who's living but really dead, 00:07:14.73\00:07:17.17 I don't want to live my life, 00:07:17.20\00:07:18.60 I'm here but I'm kind of 00:07:18.63\00:07:20.04 taking up space, that's where I was, 00:07:20.07\00:07:21.70 I'm just going through life every single day 00:07:21.74\00:07:23.87 doing what it is that I'm "supposed" to do 00:07:23.91\00:07:26.11 but I don't deserve to be here, 00:07:26.14\00:07:28.01 that was the mental space that I was in 00:07:28.04\00:07:30.05 and so, the psychological death 00:07:30.08\00:07:32.38 for someone who's bullied, that is really real, 00:07:32.41\00:07:34.62 you're not living your life, 00:07:34.65\00:07:36.25 the second thing as well is 00:07:36.28\00:07:37.82 that suicide is often very prevalent 00:07:37.85\00:07:40.69 for those who are bullied, 00:07:40.72\00:07:42.06 the other day I saw a startling statistic, 00:07:42.09\00:07:44.59 you're talking about, 00:07:44.63\00:07:45.96 it is the fourth leading cause of death, suicide that is... 00:07:45.99\00:07:49.06 among people who are... from the ages of ten to fourteen 00:07:49.10\00:07:52.13 and then also, 00:07:52.20\00:07:53.54 it is the third leading cause of death 00:07:53.57\00:07:55.87 for those who are in the age group from 15- to 24-years old 00:07:55.90\00:07:59.47 so this is serious, 00:07:59.51\00:08:01.04 God is seeing people who are precious in His sight, 00:08:01.08\00:08:04.25 created in His image, 00:08:04.28\00:08:05.61 but are not understanding who they are 00:08:05.65\00:08:07.98 and, therefore, are living lives that are really "dead. " 00:08:08.02\00:08:11.65 Oh, there are so many things that I can ask you from that. 00:08:11.69\00:08:15.26 How did your family deal with this whole thing, 00:08:15.32\00:08:21.83 did they know what was going on 00:08:21.86\00:08:23.23 how did you... was it being reinforced at home? 00:08:23.26\00:08:25.87 How did you deal with that at home? 00:08:25.90\00:08:28.57 Good question, I didn't say anything. 00:08:28.60\00:08:31.21 Is that often the case with kids that are being bullied? 00:08:31.24\00:08:35.41 Yeah, you're silent and parents don't know about it 00:08:35.44\00:08:38.01 until... sometimes it's too late. 00:08:38.05\00:08:39.41 In my case, I hardly said anything about anything 00:08:39.45\00:08:43.39 much less bullying, I was very quiet 00:08:43.42\00:08:46.02 and just introverted and so with the bullying, 00:08:46.05\00:08:48.69 that was no different, I said nothing 00:08:48.72\00:08:50.63 and the only way that my parents found out 00:08:50.66\00:08:53.56 about it particularly my mom, 00:08:53.60\00:08:54.93 was she found the letter that I wrote, 00:08:54.96\00:08:56.83 and she saw in that letter details in which... 00:08:56.87\00:08:59.17 I indicated that she wanted to take my life, 00:08:59.20\00:09:01.54 she saw a knife in the picture, and she realized, 00:09:01.57\00:09:04.21 "Oh my gosh, this is happening" 00:09:04.24\00:09:05.84 she spoke to me about it, I told her what I was thinking 00:09:05.87\00:09:09.61 and she just assured me that "Camille, you're beautiful, 00:09:09.64\00:09:13.28 you don't need to think about ending your life" 00:09:13.31\00:09:17.12 but I still felt the way that I felt inside, 00:09:17.15\00:09:20.22 the healing wasn't there. 00:09:20.26\00:09:21.79 You know, when you think about the passages that we go through, 00:09:21.82\00:09:26.86 in childhood, 00:09:26.90\00:09:28.70 going on into adulthood, and you think about 00:09:28.73\00:09:30.97 all of the natural feelings of inferiority, 00:09:31.00\00:09:34.90 lack of self-confidence, 00:09:34.94\00:09:36.40 that a teenager kind of automatically feels, 00:09:36.44\00:09:39.64 and then you compound that with the bullying, 00:09:39.67\00:09:42.81 that has got to be it's, as you said, 00:09:42.84\00:09:47.08 it's leading to suicide, Right. 00:09:47.12\00:09:49.28 and often we hear on the News about this young person 00:09:49.32\00:09:53.99 was bullied 00:09:54.06\00:09:55.39 and they committed suicide 00:09:55.42\00:09:57.23 Right, right, right, hmmm... hmmm... 00:09:57.29\00:09:58.66 and you wanted... you know, you think, 00:09:58.69\00:10:01.23 "Wow! is it that bad, can it be that bad?" 00:10:01.26\00:10:03.77 And obviously it is, obviously it is... 00:10:03.80\00:10:06.77 day after day after day, being told that you're nothing 00:10:06.84\00:10:10.97 that has got to be so painful. 00:10:11.01\00:10:14.71 It is Yvonne, you know, the thing with bullying is this, 00:10:14.74\00:10:18.31 when we think about what the Bible says 00:10:18.35\00:10:20.52 that death and life is in the power of the tongue, 00:10:20.55\00:10:23.02 that is a pretty powerful statement 00:10:23.05\00:10:25.32 we often think with words... that words are just "words" 00:10:25.35\00:10:27.92 and so when we think of bullying, 00:10:27.96\00:10:29.72 "Stick and stones may break my bones 00:10:29.76\00:10:31.36 but words will never hurt me" 00:10:31.39\00:10:32.73 so when we hear about bullying, 00:10:32.76\00:10:34.10 and we say, "that's a side issue, 00:10:34.13\00:10:35.46 come on now, get over that, 00:10:35.50\00:10:36.83 were talking about that, it's just a little thing" 00:10:36.87\00:10:39.43 but God doesn't recognize it as that, 00:10:39.47\00:10:41.70 when He sees the impact that that is having on young lives 00:10:41.74\00:10:45.04 and that, not just the lives of a young person 00:10:45.07\00:10:48.88 but ultimately they are going into adulthood with these issues 00:10:48.91\00:10:52.08 that the dreams and the passion that He has for their lives, 00:10:52.11\00:10:55.28 the purpose that He has for their lives, 00:10:55.32\00:10:56.75 that ultimately can be aborted 00:10:56.79\00:10:58.45 because of how they see themselves, 00:10:58.49\00:10:59.99 God says, "You know what, I want this to be an issue 00:11:00.02\00:11:03.73 that is recognized as serious" 00:11:03.76\00:11:05.76 and ultimately, 00:11:05.79\00:11:07.13 I believe that part of the calling of God in life, 00:11:07.16\00:11:09.73 is to take that particular message to the world, 00:11:09.76\00:11:12.37 it's to say, at the end of the day 00:11:12.40\00:11:13.97 whether you are a young child, or whether you are an adult, 00:11:14.00\00:11:18.11 your words have incredible power, 00:11:18.14\00:11:20.34 you have the power to be able to speak life... 00:11:20.38\00:11:23.04 in the life of other people, or you have the opportunity 00:11:23.08\00:11:25.61 to also speak something else which is that, 00:11:25.65\00:11:27.85 God says, "Choose life, 00:11:27.88\00:11:29.32 speak life in those in whom you meet" 00:11:29.35\00:11:31.45 and the world will begin to blossom 00:11:31.49\00:11:33.52 into a place in which all of us 00:11:33.56\00:11:34.92 can feel a greater sense of hope, resiliency and love. 00:11:34.96\00:11:38.56 Come on now, I love that, I love that, 00:11:38.59\00:11:41.33 you know, as I listen to you Camille, 00:11:41.36\00:11:45.60 you have taken this adversity, this pain, 00:11:45.63\00:11:49.80 and God has allowed you to transform that into a purpose 00:11:49.84\00:11:55.34 from pain to purpose, Amen. 00:11:55.41\00:11:57.98 so now, you are on fire about delivering 00:11:58.01\00:12:02.42 this message of wholeness 00:12:02.45\00:12:04.72 and is that what inspired you to write this book? 00:12:04.75\00:12:08.02 How did you get inspired to write the book? 00:12:08.06\00:12:10.23 Great question, 00:12:10.26\00:12:11.86 the inspiration came from the One who gives, ultimately... 00:12:11.89\00:12:15.96 inspiration and calling, 00:12:16.00\00:12:17.50 my God and great Savior, Jesus Christ, 00:12:17.53\00:12:20.40 when I felt the impression of the Spirit to write the book, 00:12:20.44\00:12:23.97 I'm like, "Oh God, I could write but not necessarily about me" 00:12:24.01\00:12:27.54 you know, but, I understood, 00:12:27.58\00:12:30.18 when the impression came to write the book, "why" 00:12:30.21\00:12:32.85 I understood that lives needed to be saved, 00:12:32.88\00:12:35.68 I understood that calling... 00:12:35.72\00:12:37.49 some people's lives needed to be lived, 00:12:37.52\00:12:39.85 I understood that there are many people 00:12:39.89\00:12:42.19 who are going to their graves, 00:12:42.22\00:12:43.59 in a way in which they are dying, 00:12:43.63\00:12:45.29 and... they are dying empty, 00:12:45.33\00:12:47.03 and some of them are dying full, 00:12:47.10\00:12:48.76 but in the end their grave is the wealthiest place 00:12:48.80\00:12:51.47 on the planet, because so many people, 00:12:51.50\00:12:53.37 who found themselves in a place where they're limited within, 00:12:53.40\00:12:57.11 they do not know their own power, 00:12:57.14\00:12:59.47 they do not understand the power which God has given them, 00:12:59.51\00:13:02.74 and so they go through lives as I said, "dead men walking" 00:13:02.78\00:13:05.98 not living the lives that God has called them to live, 00:13:06.01\00:13:09.15 so the inspiration ultimately came from God, 00:13:09.18\00:13:11.69 and from that, 00:13:11.72\00:13:13.05 I decided that I wanted to see young girls around the world 00:13:13.09\00:13:17.23 rise up and see themselves as how God sees them. 00:13:17.26\00:13:19.96 Yes, and it's so important 00:13:20.00\00:13:22.06 to have a different picture of ourselves 00:13:22.10\00:13:25.77 than the one the enemy tries to plant within our heads, 00:13:25.83\00:13:30.07 Amen. and in this Society, 00:13:30.11\00:13:31.84 there is such an emphasis on how you look 00:13:31.87\00:13:36.44 and what color you are and all of these things, 00:13:36.48\00:13:40.45 that should not play into it but they do 00:13:40.48\00:13:44.82 and we internalize that Right. 00:13:44.85\00:13:47.12 and then we're just kind of stuck in this morass of pain 00:13:47.16\00:13:52.99 so, the Holy Spirit inspired you to take your pain 00:13:53.06\00:13:57.87 and make it your purpose, and that's what you're doing 00:13:57.93\00:14:02.70 how would you... 00:14:02.77\00:14:04.11 if you were talking to the "Camille" of fifteen, 00:14:04.14\00:14:09.68 what would you say to her? 00:14:09.71\00:14:12.51 I would have so much to say to her 00:14:12.55\00:14:14.45 the book ultimately... is what I would say to "me" 00:14:14.48\00:14:17.75 and that's why, "Long Journey to Freedom" 00:14:17.79\00:14:20.72 was ultimately written, 00:14:20.76\00:14:22.09 I believe God wanted me to use the pain that I had experienced, 00:14:22.12\00:14:24.99 to help someone else, 00:14:25.03\00:14:26.36 so if there is one young girl out there 00:14:26.39\00:14:28.33 that would pick up that book and say, 00:14:28.36\00:14:30.37 "My gosh, I don't want to go where she was 00:14:30.43\00:14:33.64 27 years for life, 00:14:33.67\00:14:36.30 I want that shortcut, I'm going to read that book. " 00:14:36.34\00:14:40.11 Talk to her, talk to her in that camera, 00:14:40.14\00:14:41.48 "Young lady, young girl, wherever you are in the world, 00:14:41.54\00:14:44.31 what I say to you is, 00:14:44.35\00:14:45.71 first and foremost understand who you are, 00:14:45.75\00:14:48.32 that your Creator has called you beautiful 00:14:48.35\00:14:50.59 that your Creator has called you blessed 00:14:50.62\00:14:53.05 and that He wants you to pick up a mirror, 00:14:53.09\00:14:55.49 a mirror that is not found on earth 00:14:55.52\00:14:57.63 but a mirror that has been built in heaven 00:14:57.66\00:14:59.69 it's called the 'Word of God,' 00:14:59.73\00:15:01.16 and He wants you to search it daily 00:15:01.20\00:15:03.23 to understand who you are and whose you are, 00:15:03.26\00:15:06.00 once you do that 00:15:06.03\00:15:07.37 you'll no longer struggle with who you are. " 00:15:07.40\00:15:11.81 That is so good, and if young men and women 00:15:11.84\00:15:16.21 could just internalize "whose" they are as well, 00:15:16.24\00:15:20.45 that they belong to the Lord and that God has a plan for them 00:15:20.52\00:15:25.09 often on this Program, Camille, we talk about Jeremiah 29:11 00:15:25.12\00:15:29.62 that's like my favorite, my new favorite verse, I think, 00:15:29.66\00:15:34.16 because I allude to it all the time 00:15:34.20\00:15:36.36 about God's thoughts toward us, 00:15:36.40\00:15:38.50 thoughts of peace and not of evil to give us... 00:15:38.53\00:15:41.10 in NIV it says, "a future and a hope" 00:15:41.17\00:15:44.14 and in the King James, it is, "to give us an expected end" 00:15:44.17\00:15:48.98 and so, that says, there is a plan 00:15:49.01\00:15:51.81 and no one can fulfill that plan for you, 00:15:51.85\00:15:58.19 you were created to do that, and once you find that, 00:15:58.22\00:16:02.82 you have found... your divine purpose. 00:16:02.86\00:16:05.23 Tell us what it feels like now as compared to where you were. 00:16:05.26\00:16:10.27 Words can't express it, 00:16:10.30\00:16:13.37 it is the most powerful place on earth to be in. 00:16:13.40\00:16:17.24 I wish this for every single person on the planet, 00:16:17.27\00:16:20.61 that whatever it is that God has called them to do, 00:16:20.64\00:16:23.81 that they would find themselves 00:16:23.85\00:16:25.58 right in the middle of that purpose 00:16:25.61\00:16:27.85 because once you live in that purpose, 00:16:27.88\00:16:30.05 there is a peace that surpasses all understanding, 00:16:30.09\00:16:34.06 there is a joy that grips your soul, 00:16:34.09\00:16:36.42 that allows you to live life with passion 00:16:36.46\00:16:39.06 and just with a sense of just... 00:16:39.09\00:16:41.30 "Thank God I am here I can't wait for the next day" 00:16:41.33\00:16:45.43 I want that for others, 00:16:45.47\00:16:47.37 I want them to dream a bigger dream for themselves 00:16:47.40\00:16:50.94 because ultimately God has dreamed it for them. 00:16:50.97\00:16:53.78 I like the way you said, "God's dream for us" 00:16:53.84\00:16:56.61 because God has His own plan for us, 00:16:56.64\00:17:00.25 and Satan has a plan, and God has a plan, 00:17:00.32\00:17:03.22 Satan's plan is to take you from here 00:17:03.25\00:17:06.42 and spiral you downward and destroy you 00:17:06.45\00:17:09.62 but God's plan is to lift us up 00:17:09.66\00:17:12.69 and to give us the abundant life through Jesus Christ 00:17:12.73\00:17:15.23 and what a difference, Satan kind of lured you 00:17:15.26\00:17:19.40 with different things just to bait you, 00:17:19.43\00:17:21.94 get you into the trap and then... take you down. 00:17:21.97\00:17:25.64 It's amazing, but God has this way 00:17:25.67\00:17:30.25 of taking the darkest times 00:17:30.28\00:17:32.41 and bringing something out of that 00:17:32.45\00:17:35.05 and you know... you know that... first hand 00:17:35.08\00:17:38.32 because you went through another very dark time 00:17:38.35\00:17:41.52 after the bullying, tell us about that. 00:17:41.56\00:17:43.29 Yeah, oh yeah, 00:17:43.32\00:17:45.33 wow! two times that I never would have expected, 00:17:45.36\00:17:47.43 was that, my young husband at 34-years old, 00:17:47.46\00:17:51.53 one morning got up 00:17:51.60\00:17:52.97 and just started to complain that he wasn't feeling too well 00:17:53.00\00:17:56.54 that was not normal so I took that to be 00:17:56.60\00:17:59.17 something very serious, long story short, 00:17:59.21\00:18:01.74 what ended up happening, Yvonne, at 7:38 on November 14, 2009, 00:18:01.78\00:18:06.28 I was told that my husband, at that time, was dead, 00:18:06.31\00:18:10.52 and that was 00:18:10.59\00:18:12.69 one of the most devastating experiences of my entire life 00:18:12.72\00:18:15.62 because I loved him so much, 00:18:15.66\00:18:17.63 we were college sweethearts and he meant the world to me 00:18:17.66\00:18:22.40 and I honestly did not believe that I could live without him, 00:18:22.43\00:18:26.03 I thought that I would ultimately 00:18:26.10\00:18:28.44 not be able to survive it, but God... 00:18:28.47\00:18:31.07 Yvonne: But God... Camille: But God. 00:18:31.11\00:18:33.11 And it just happened all of a sudden? 00:18:33.14\00:18:35.54 All of a sudden, no warning... nothing... 00:18:35.58\00:18:37.88 what he died of was something that is considered 00:18:37.91\00:18:41.22 a silent part of a heart attack 00:18:41.25\00:18:44.39 when you have a silent coronary disease, 00:18:44.42\00:18:47.22 and it was just... one time it happened... 00:18:47.26\00:18:49.89 and that was it, 00:18:49.92\00:18:51.26 and the time that it happened, it took his life. 00:18:51.29\00:18:53.46 Other people may get other opportunities 00:18:53.50\00:18:56.13 to live through it, he did not, 00:18:56.16\00:18:57.80 and so, my world was devastated by that completely 00:18:57.83\00:19:02.64 without hope as to how I was going to get through it, 00:19:02.67\00:19:07.64 but God stepped in, and reminded me who He was 00:19:07.68\00:19:11.25 and His ability to help me, and so I remember 00:19:11.28\00:19:14.38 just praying in my living room and telling God, 00:19:14.42\00:19:18.02 "God, I don't know, I see nothing around me 00:19:18.05\00:19:21.59 but a complete darkness, 00:19:21.62\00:19:22.96 but, I know that you can take this broken heart 00:19:22.99\00:19:25.99 and continue, you can take this broken life 00:19:26.03\00:19:29.06 and you can make something out of it" 00:19:29.10\00:19:31.67 and He has. 00:19:31.70\00:19:33.30 Amen, amen, so, your response to the dark time 00:19:33.34\00:19:38.94 was not to draw away from God, 00:19:38.97\00:19:41.51 but it was to draw closer to Him. 00:19:41.54\00:19:43.98 Did you find comfort and peace during that time? 00:19:44.05\00:19:49.38 How did it manifest? 00:19:49.42\00:19:50.95 I certainly did, my message to people everywhere 00:19:50.99\00:19:54.62 is ultimately this... that if you are not connected 00:19:54.66\00:19:58.29 to the God of the universe, 00:19:58.33\00:19:59.66 I pray that you will become connected to Him 00:19:59.69\00:20:02.26 because, if you're not going through a storm now, 00:20:02.30\00:20:05.50 you ultimately will, 00:20:05.53\00:20:06.87 and there is no way that you can endure that 00:20:06.90\00:20:09.44 without the power of God, because He brought me through it 00:20:09.50\00:20:14.21 and He knew ten months later 00:20:14.24\00:20:16.44 I was going to be dealing with something else, 00:20:16.51\00:20:18.61 and that was the loss of my dad, 00:20:18.68\00:20:20.82 ten months later, my dad died of Pancreatic Cancer 00:20:20.85\00:20:24.25 and two months prior to that when I got the diagnosis, 00:20:24.29\00:20:27.62 I was just completely just not here... 00:20:27.66\00:20:31.26 it was like, "How is this happening God, 00:20:31.29\00:20:34.86 I lost my husband, and now my dad?" 00:20:34.90\00:20:37.00 But the reality was that God stepped in again 00:20:37.03\00:20:40.64 and His ability, through particularly His words 00:20:40.67\00:20:44.24 to just reassures you that you can get through this, 00:20:44.27\00:20:47.48 is amazing, so, at the end of the day 00:20:47.51\00:20:50.71 what I would say to people is this... 00:20:50.75\00:20:52.08 God makes it clear in His Word 00:20:52.11\00:20:54.38 that "My power is made perfect in your weakness" 00:20:54.42\00:20:58.42 so I will boast of my weakness 00:20:58.45\00:21:00.39 so that the power of Christ rests on me. 00:21:00.42\00:21:04.23 Yes, yes, and look at God, look at how God... 00:21:04.26\00:21:08.96 in spite of the dark time, and He always does this, 00:21:09.00\00:21:13.13 in the wilderness period, you know, 00:21:13.17\00:21:16.04 we wouldn't... when you look back on it, 00:21:16.07\00:21:18.44 you wouldn't trade the closeness with God for anything, 00:21:18.47\00:21:21.88 you don't want to go through the wilderness, obviously, 00:21:21.94\00:21:25.55 but when you're there, once you've gone through it, 00:21:25.58\00:21:28.92 you look back and you say, "Wow! God held me up, 00:21:28.98\00:21:32.29 He held me up through that dark time" 00:21:32.32\00:21:35.32 and then you lost your husband, you lost your dad, 00:21:35.39\00:21:39.16 but when your dad was being cared for, 00:21:39.19\00:21:42.36 tell us about the young man who was caring for your dad. 00:21:42.40\00:21:46.53 Oh, God is great, He is good, 00:21:46.57\00:21:50.27 this is ultimately the story of my life, 00:21:50.31\00:21:52.57 is His greatness, to bring you through anything 00:21:52.61\00:21:55.21 but also to bring some powerful, positive great things 00:21:55.24\00:21:58.45 along with it, Yes, yes. 00:21:58.48\00:22:00.32 and so, throughout my experience with taking care of my dad, 00:22:00.35\00:22:02.95 they talked about bringing in an Alternative Healer 00:22:02.98\00:22:07.19 to work on him, He was at this point, Yvonne, 00:22:07.22\00:22:10.09 where literally it was... there was no hope, 00:22:10.13\00:22:12.99 he was going to die. 00:22:13.03\00:22:14.36 Pancreatic Cancer is very serious 00:22:14.40\00:22:16.46 and it works very quickly. 00:22:16.50\00:22:18.13 You got it, you absolutely got it right 00:22:18.17\00:22:20.44 and it did in his case, so we saw that happening 00:22:20.47\00:22:23.04 but my dad still had hope, 00:22:23.07\00:22:24.67 he was a man of faith and he said, 00:22:24.71\00:22:26.04 "You know what, I want to try whatever 00:22:26.07\00:22:28.04 there still is out there" 00:22:28.08\00:22:29.84 so, my parents called around 00:22:29.88\00:22:31.61 and found that there was this "Alternative Healer" 00:22:31.65\00:22:35.55 that he was a Medical Missionary, 00:22:35.58\00:22:37.32 I had no idea what that was 00:22:37.35\00:22:38.99 because I wasn't an Adventist so I was clueless. 00:22:39.02\00:22:41.72 Oh you weren't an Adventist at this point? 00:22:41.76\00:22:43.73 No, I was a Methodist at that point so, I'm just like, 00:22:43.76\00:22:46.59 "Okay, let's see what this turns out to be" 00:22:46.63\00:22:48.70 very skeptical and ultimately God did something amazing 00:22:48.73\00:22:53.23 I found myself working with him and taking care of my dad, 00:22:53.27\00:22:57.71 and starting to feel feelings... could it be love? 00:22:57.74\00:23:03.61 And so, I started falling in love with him 00:23:03.65\00:23:06.72 and he was as well, and ultimately we got married. 00:23:06.75\00:23:09.78 Now, look at God, and even in the midst of the 00:23:09.82\00:23:13.66 hardest times, He stepped in 00:23:13.72\00:23:16.22 and showed His love for you 00:23:16.29\00:23:18.73 by providing a "Houseband" for you. 00:23:18.76\00:23:22.30 Yes, yes, He provided sunshine in the midst of storm 00:23:22.33\00:23:25.93 and I think that's what I love about God 00:23:25.97\00:23:28.30 is that He is so redemptive, 00:23:28.34\00:23:30.27 He has a power to be able to take the things of life 00:23:30.31\00:23:33.17 that aren't too pleasant and make lemonade out of it. 00:23:33.21\00:23:35.98 Yes. So I love Him for that, 00:23:36.01\00:23:37.41 and I love His ability to bring us through 00:23:37.45\00:23:39.48 to help us to know that, "You know what, 00:23:39.51\00:23:41.15 there are always sunny days ahead. " 00:23:41.18\00:23:42.75 Absolutely, and another thing is so great about God 00:23:42.78\00:23:45.55 since we're just praising Him right now 00:23:45.59\00:23:48.12 another thing is, He can make one move 00:23:48.16\00:23:50.63 and accomplish several things with one move. 00:23:50.69\00:23:53.83 Like your dad... was getting somewhat better, 00:23:53.86\00:23:56.97 during that time, and then, 00:23:57.00\00:23:59.30 He also... God brought you a husband, 00:23:59.33\00:24:01.94 He knew what you needed, Yes. 00:24:01.97\00:24:03.81 you know the two main men in your life, 00:24:03.84\00:24:06.51 had been removed, and God sent you 00:24:06.54\00:24:09.54 another husband and what a blessing, 00:24:09.58\00:24:12.51 what a blessing. 00:24:12.55\00:24:14.15 Amen, and you know Yvonne, 00:24:14.18\00:24:16.08 I wouldn't have chosen that path for myself 00:24:16.12\00:24:18.12 because after my first husband, I was going to remain a widow, 00:24:18.15\00:24:21.12 I just believed that there was no other man on the earth 00:24:21.16\00:24:24.09 that could eclipse him... that could surpass who he was 00:24:24.13\00:24:27.03 but God ended up proving me wrong. 00:24:27.06\00:24:30.27 Amen. I'm glad He did. 00:24:30.30\00:24:32.17 God is good, so, let's just get back 00:24:32.20\00:24:36.97 to the seven steps in that long journey toward freedom. 00:24:37.01\00:24:41.48 What are those seven steps, just give us a little hint 00:24:41.51\00:24:45.95 of each one and whoa, our time is running out 00:24:45.98\00:24:48.22 I can't believe it, our time is running out, 00:24:48.25\00:24:50.42 so just give us a little taste of what are those seven steps. 00:24:50.45\00:24:53.99 All right, the seven steps are pretty much proven to work. 00:24:54.02\00:24:57.53 The first is thinking about the power of choice. 00:24:57.56\00:25:01.06 When we talk about choice, we often don't realize that 00:25:01.13\00:25:04.50 this is something that's often taken for granted 00:25:04.53\00:25:07.07 but in every situation in life, you have the power to choose 00:25:07.10\00:25:10.04 whether or not you will make that situation 00:25:10.07\00:25:12.17 a great one or whether or not you're going to deteriorate 00:25:12.21\00:25:14.34 that experience into a negative one. 00:25:14.38\00:25:16.48 Then there's the power of thought 00:25:16.51\00:25:18.45 where... how do you think about 00:25:18.48\00:25:20.32 whatever events are happening in your life, 00:25:20.35\00:25:22.22 is it in a way that is going to lead to life 00:25:22.25\00:25:24.65 or is it in a way that is going to lead to death. 00:25:24.69\00:25:26.52 Then you have the power of words. 00:25:26.55\00:25:28.56 The words in which we speak, I talk about that... 00:25:28.62\00:25:30.93 obviously my experience with bullying, 00:25:30.96\00:25:32.96 that that has incredible power, not only just who you're like 00:25:32.99\00:25:36.33 but the lives of other people, 00:25:36.36\00:25:37.70 and then we have the power of gratitude. 00:25:37.73\00:25:40.57 Gratitude can cure a multitude of ills, 00:25:40.60\00:25:43.10 it can make you sing in times of great darkness 00:25:43.14\00:25:46.01 it is one of the most powerful forces on the planet 00:25:46.04\00:25:49.31 and there are many others, I don't know if we have time 00:25:49.34\00:25:52.58 to talk about the others, We do. 00:25:52.61\00:25:54.25 Okay, all right, and in regards to the other ones, 00:25:54.28\00:25:57.39 the power of contentment, 00:25:57.42\00:25:59.19 being able to realize at the end of the day 00:25:59.22\00:26:01.72 that what is... is what is... 00:26:01.76\00:26:03.12 I can still soar, I can still look for other ways 00:26:03.16\00:26:05.69 in which my life can be better, 00:26:05.73\00:26:07.06 but in the meantime, I can be able to say, 00:26:07.10\00:26:09.06 "God, thank you for where I am today. " 00:26:09.10\00:26:11.17 So, the power of love, 00:26:11.20\00:26:13.34 that is one of the powers that is the most purest 00:26:13.37\00:26:16.14 and fondest to my heart, because I believe that 00:26:16.17\00:26:18.91 as Dionne Warwick said, 00:26:18.94\00:26:20.28 "What the world needs is love sweet love" 00:26:20.31\00:26:22.24 when we have that love, 00:26:22.28\00:26:24.01 we can be able to bring people and ourselves 00:26:24.05\00:26:27.12 to a place that is just higher, 00:26:27.15\00:26:28.92 we live life higher, we're encouraged 00:26:28.98\00:26:31.29 and we are the ones who bring healing to the world. 00:26:31.32\00:26:33.89 So that is my message, 00:26:33.92\00:26:35.86 my message is that we have these powers, 00:26:35.89\00:26:38.49 these seven powers, 00:26:38.53\00:26:39.86 that can cure a multitude of ills. 00:26:39.89\00:26:41.96 Oh, that's incredible, and you are taking that... 00:26:42.00\00:26:46.33 that message to churches and wherever you're invited. 00:26:46.37\00:26:50.71 Right, right, right. 00:26:50.74\00:26:52.24 You want people to invite you to come 00:26:52.27\00:26:53.71 and share this message with their churches, 00:26:53.74\00:26:56.54 how can they reach you? 00:26:56.58\00:26:57.91 if you want to reach me, just go to: 00:26:57.95\00:27:00.22 www. longjourneytofreedom. com or 00:27:00.25\00:27:02.55 info@longjourneytofreedom. com 00:27:02.58\00:27:04.55 and I would love for you to go there 00:27:04.62\00:27:06.39 because I have a free offer for you, 00:27:06.42\00:27:08.16 so those of you 00:27:08.19\00:27:09.52 who would like to be coached by me 00:27:09.56\00:27:10.89 in terms of weight loss and just mind, body and spirit, 00:27:10.93\00:27:13.73 I would love to work with you, so contact me. 00:27:13.76\00:27:16.33 Oh great, so there's a free offer, 00:27:16.36\00:27:18.23 they can consult with you? 00:27:18.27\00:27:21.04 Absolutely, they will have that, 00:27:21.07\00:27:23.57 I would love to have the privilege of working with them. 00:27:23.61\00:27:25.64 Praise the Lord, well, thank you so much, 00:27:25.67\00:27:27.68 thank you so much for sharing your journey with us, 00:27:27.71\00:27:31.21 and for being transparent and just letting us know 00:27:31.25\00:27:34.72 what God has brought you through. 00:27:34.75\00:27:36.48 God bless you. 00:27:36.52\00:27:37.85 Thank you, Yvonne. Thank you. 00:27:37.89\00:27:39.22 And thank you so much for joining us. 00:27:39.25\00:27:41.69 It's really important that you "Like" us on Facebook 00:27:41.72\00:27:44.79 that you ask the Lord 00:27:44.83\00:27:46.86 just how you can support this ministry, 00:27:46.90\00:27:49.56 because, we really, really design Programs 00:27:49.60\00:27:52.20 with you in mind, 00:27:52.23\00:27:53.57 well, we've reached the end of another Program, 00:27:53.60\00:27:55.67 join us next time, because you know what? 00:27:55.70\00:27:58.04 It just wouldn't be the same... without you. 00:27:58.07\00:28:00.41