Stay tuned to meet an
award winning Filmmaker
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with some great stories to tell.
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My name is Yvonne Lewis,
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and you're
watching Urban Report.
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Hello and
welcome to Urban Report.
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My guest today is Chris Lang,
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Founder, Producer and Director
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of Lifestreams Media
Film Production Company,
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welcome to Urban Report Chris.
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Thank you very much Yvonne.
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It is so exciting to have
you you know, our Viewers,
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we kind of have on Urban Report
we kind of have this theme
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of God's plan for everyone
I talk about it all the time
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and God had and still has
an amazing plan for your life
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before we get into your story,
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I'd like to just show a film
clip that you brought to us.
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Let's take a look.
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Sounds great.
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Lifestreams Media Production
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Lifestreams Media...
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My mother had a miscarriage
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what she didn't know
was that she'd had twins
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I was that other
twin, still inside her womb
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now there was no
ultrasound in those days
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and she continued to
have bleeding and discomfort
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so her doctor
used ringed forceps
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to remove her ineffective IUD,
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then he used the
forceps to reach in,
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grasp and remove
any loose material
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he could from her womb
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last, he gave her five
days of the drug Methergine
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Methergine causes the uterus
to expel remaining birth tissues
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to minimize bleeding
and risk of infection
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but her stomach kept growing
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and several
doctors didn't believe
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it was a normal pregnancy
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so mom wanted whatever
it was surgically removed.
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Fortunately for me,
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her OB Doctor urged her to wait
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I guess you could say,
I survived a miscarriage
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and an abortion.
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Music playing
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When Mourning Breaks
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Finding Hope After
Miscarriage and Abortion.
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Chris, you know,
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the whole idea
of God having a plan
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God obviously had
a major plan for you
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and has a major plan for you.
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Tell us... bring us up
to date with that story
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what happened
after your mom realized
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that she was still pregnant,
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how did she
react, what happened?
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A lot of nightmares, Yvonne,
and, of course, at that time
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without having an ultrasound,
no one could have known
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and in fact four out
of five doctors thought
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that it was either
cancer, a molar pregnancy
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or ectopic pregnancy
and any of those could be
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pretty dangerous for the
Mom, so that's what she was told
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and the only doctor that thought
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that it might be
a normal pregnancy
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was her OB Doctor,
praise God for Dr. Richard Paul
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and a couple of years
ago I got an e-mail from him
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and he said... I
was curious if he still
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remembered
anything about my case,
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even though it's
been a couple of years.
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I'm sure your
case was not the norm.
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It was a long e-mail
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and he said he was responsible
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for over 300,000 baby
deliveries in his career,
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and he said, your
case remains unique
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he remembers the first
day he heard my heart beat
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for the first time
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and my Mom said he
collapsed in the chair
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next to the exam table
when he heard my heart beat.
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So I give God praise for
life, I have so many aspects,
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my parents already
had three healthy children
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and they couldn't
afford to have any more
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and that's why
they agreed to have...
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that she should
have an IUD inserted
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so, the whole thing for
me... IUD to the forceps
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and they're pulling out, I mean,
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the average uterus is
only three inches long
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and at that stage
of Mom's pregnancy
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I was at least an inch,
perhaps, or an inch and a half
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there was nowhere to hide,
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I should be missing
arms, legs, fingers or toes
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if I had have
survived the pregnancy
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I shouldn't be a normal delivery
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so you can imagine the
nightmares that mom was having
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but praise the Lord I
was the fourth "surprise"
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in the row and so,
it's been a wonderful thing
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to sense that God
had a purpose for my life
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from a very young age,
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and sometimes that's a burden,
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when you know God
has His hand on your life
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you don't want
to mess it up. Yeah.
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You know, so it's
like "destiny syndrome"
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"we don't want
to mess it up, God"
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and every time
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you make a mistake in life,
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the devil is there
to whisper and say,
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"You've done too much
now, and God can't use you"
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so, we all have these
voices that speak in our head
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most of them are
not our own thoughts.
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That's right.
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The devil can insert through
our neurological pathways
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thoughts that we
think are our own
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that's why we
need the Word of God.
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Absolutely.
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Because the Word of God
tells us the objective truth
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that God loves
us no matter what.
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Absolutely, the only
way that Satan gets to us
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is through our senses, so...
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but that's the
way the Holy Spirit
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works with us as well,
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if we are in the
Word as you just said,
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we have truth to
neutralize error.
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Amen. So we know, who is who
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and what's what
based on the truth
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of the Word of God,
the "Objective Standard"
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Amen. You know, people say,
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"Well, your truth and my
truth are two different things"
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and there is one truth,
everybody can't be right
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there is one truth and
that's the Word of God,
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Amen. so, you're
absolutely right,
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so, this... the clip that we saw
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is from "When Mourning Breaks"
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is that a film that you've made?
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Yes, this is one of
the documentary films
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that I produced... you
know a lot of people, Yvonne,
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say that
miscarriage and abortion issues
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are women's issues,
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last time I checked,
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it takes a guy to
make a baby as well
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and so people
are sometimes curious
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as to why would a guy do
a film about pregnancy loss
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so now you have a little insight
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on why God would
put it on my heart
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to do a film to
try to offer hope
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to people who are hurting
after they've lost a pregnancy
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regardless of the
cause, Yvonne, you know,
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one of the things
that was mind-bending
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is that no one had
ever done a documentary
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featuring interviews
about miscarriage before
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there are many
books on miscarriage,
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the pain of miscarriage,
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never had any documentaries
out there prior to this film,
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in addition to that
there wasn't anything
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that put the two types
of "pregnancy loss" together
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and I believe the
Lord led in this because
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Yvonne, you know there's
politics with the abortion issue
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and what this does
is it actually rips
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the political mask off
and it shows people hurting
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and one of the
things I found is that
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as we interview both
types, couples, men, women,
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different types...
both types of loss,
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I found that the
long-term emotional impact
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that happens in the
aftermath could be either type
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regardless of the
cause can be very similar
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in terms of the
long-term impact on faith,
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emotions and
relationships, Hmmm...
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so it's been a real journey.
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One-third of all pregnancies
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are lost every year
in the United States,
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two million pregnancies are due
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either to one of these
two types of pregnancy losses
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so it's a huge ministry
opportunity in churches.
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That's what I was going to say,
this is not just something that
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affects just a few people,
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this has kind
of a blanket effect
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and so, this is a
wonderful ministry
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that God's laid on your heart
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and you have first-hand
experience, so to speak,
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with that whole area
so that is tremendous.
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What are some of the
other films that you've made?
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I did a film on single adults,
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the stigma of
singleness in Society where...
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not just in the
Christian Church,
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very marriage-and-family centric
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in Society as
well as in the Church,
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I went through a painful
divorce a number of years ago,
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and God met me
in that broken place
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and made something
beautiful out of my life
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and through that journey,
He led me into film production
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"Single Creek"
actually was my first film
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and it's actually giving hope
to the never-married out there,
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the divorced people, the widows,
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the single parents who
have children out of wedlock
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40 percent of all
pregnancies now are
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babies delivered
in the United States
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are from single
parents that are never married,
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and then the person
who is struggling with
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same-sex attraction
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who chooses to
live a life of celibacy,
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these are the types of voices
you hear in "Single Creek"
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challenging the church to
see singles in a new light
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while challenging the
single adults themselves
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to live a full life of faith
through their talents for God
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and to find
healing in the only place
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that any of us
can find completion
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in Christ Jesus, right? Amen.
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And married people
are actually surprised
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when they see "Single
Creek. " Really... why?
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because it actually... it
surprises them when they see
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all of these great stories
because then they're reminded
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that their spouses aren't
the ones that complete them
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you see, it's not a film
about finding the right woman,
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there are a lot of
dating films out there,
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this is a film about
becoming the right one,
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Oh, come on now, come on.
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that's what it is about
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I love that because
you really need to...
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when you come
into a relationship
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you need to be whole,
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you don't need to
be a half a person
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looking to be completed,
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but a whole person
looking for a partner.
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That's right.
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So, that's wonderful, I
have to... I really want to...
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see, I haven't had a
chance to see these yet
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but just from
what you're telling me
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and from the Clip,
"When Mourning Breaks"
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sounds amazing, amazing,
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so, let's hear a little
bit more about your story
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and your journey
because God has protected you
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and brought you
through so many things
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let's just hear some
of the miracle stories
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that God has given you.
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Well, you know, it's
wonderful to serve a God
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who cares about
life and death matters
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because as you
saw, in my birth story
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another story that
happened to me real quick
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that I'll share is I
love to go to the beach,
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most of us do, and
this one particular day
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was not a great day at the
beach I was in big trouble,
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you see, a hurricane had
just blown through Florida
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off the coast, and
that's a great time to find
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great big waves out on the coast
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and I had just
bought my own surf board
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I'm a novice surfer, and
I heard on a particular day
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that the waves were
really big out there
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so I took the day off
work, I went out to the coast
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and sure enough
when I got out there
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the waves were huge,
huge for Florida, that is,
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nine- to ten-feet tall
some of them... higher than that
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so I put the board in
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paddled 200 years
out to the break point
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and I waited for the big one,
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and I remember seeing
it coming on the horizon
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and I knew that was it,
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so I turned and I
paddled as hard as I could
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and before I knew it, I
was on top of this mountain
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of water... but there
was a problem, Yvonne,
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there was a strong onshore wind
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that was blowing
out the face of the wave
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and it was too late,
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I fell off my board and
I fell down, down, down,
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and as I was
falling, I had this thought,
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"this is not
going to be pretty. "
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We can laugh about it now
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but I'm sure that
when it was happening
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oh, oh, oh, so,
you were at the crest?
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I was on the top of that
wave and as I was falling,
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my thought was,
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"better get as big
a breath as you can"
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Right. "because
this thing is going to
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come crashing down on
top of you in the trough
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and sure enough,
that's exactly what happened
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now, I had been a
lifeguard, a beach lifeguard,
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I was a strong swimmer, Yvonne,
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but I was no match
for this force of nature
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Hmmm... hmmm... I was
pummeled like a ragdoll
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I was being thrown
over and over and over again
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until I didn't know where I was.
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I didn't know where was up,
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where was down,
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I didn't know how far
under the surface of the water,
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the wave had pushed me
and even more importantly,
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I didn't know
where the bottom was
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and as I tumbling in
that powerful body of water,
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the power of the
wave started to break me
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and I started having
water go up my sinuses
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and at that moment,
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my whole life passed
in front of me, Yvonne,
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and I sent up a
prayer to the Lord
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instantly, I
said, "Lord, save me
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and I promise I'll
do anything for you"
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and as the Lord is my witness
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in that very instant,
my feet found the bottom.
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As soon as I sent the
prayer up to the Lord,
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Wow! I found the bottom,
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my feet touched the bottom
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and with the last
bit of energy I had left,
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I pushed with all my might,
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not knowing how
far the surface was,
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because I didn't know
how far deep I'd gone,
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and just as my nose was breaking
the surface of the water,
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my lungs began to
expand, began to inhale,
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if I hadn't broken the
surface at that instant,
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my lungs would
have filled with water.
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It reminds me of
Psalm 91 verse 11 and 12
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"He will give His
angels charge over you,
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to keep you in all your ways.
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In their hands
they will bear you up,
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lest you dash your
foot against a stone"
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or in my case, "In their hands
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they will bear you up
lest your lungs fill with water
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and you drowned. "
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Wow! look at...
you can see Chris, that
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all along your life from
before you were even born,
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while you were in the
womb, even till this point,
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God has had His hand on you
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He has brought you
through... that's tremendous
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the fact that you almost
died, not once, but twice...
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There's more...
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but I think we're
probably out of time
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No we're not, no, we gave
quite a bit of time, yeah.
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One more story?
Yeah, please, please,
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Okay. our Viewers love stories,
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our Urban Report Viewers
love stories so, please...
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All right, well this one
is not a life and death story
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I want to encourage
people who are watching today
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because there
are a lot of people
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that are having
financial challenges
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I'm glad the Lord cares about
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all the temporal
concerns that we have.
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One day I got a
phone call Yvonne,
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from a business affiliate,
I used to run a small business
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before God led me into
Media Ministry full time
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and one day I got a call
from a business affiliate
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that had made a change that
would affect our largest client
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well, this wasn't
just any client, Yvonne,
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because if we lost this client,
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the business would
go down the toilet.
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This was your main...
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This was the main revenue stream
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Okay, got it.
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and so all day long I
was fretting and praying,
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praying and fretting, you know,
00:15:32.36\00:15:34.46
I'm glad God knows
that we're made of mud,
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we're animated mud right? Right.
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Nobody here watching
ever could get so fretful
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but that's what I was all day
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and at the end of the day I
was running errands, Yvonne,
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and I was impressed to
stop at a convenient store
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near my house and
get a gallon of milk,
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now, I don't drink regular
milk anymore in my cereal
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but during that time,
I was impressed to stop
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and it wasn't just an impression
it was a compelling urge
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so, I obeyed, I stopped, I
went in, got a gallon of milk,
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went to the Counter,
paid the clerk a $10 bill
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and she gave me change back
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and I shoved it in my
pocket with some coins
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went home, put
the milk in the fridge
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and then I... like most guys
at the end of a difficult day,
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just hurled the change
on to the kitchen counter
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and as the coins were rattling
and as the bills began to unfurl
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I noticed there was some
writing on one of the bills,
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and so, I was curious and
so I pressed the bill open
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to see what the
writing was on it,
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and on the five dollar bill,
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you had to kind
of turn it vertically
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and I don't know if
the cameras can catch this
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close up or not, but it says,
00:16:42.66\00:16:45.13
"Jesus told me to tell you,
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He will fix it for
you if you ask Him. "
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Oh, this is what
was on your $5 bill.
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That was on the
change I was given.
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"Jesus will fix it
for you, if you ask Him. "
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"If you ask Him" and
then at the bottom it says,
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"God loves you no matter what"
00:17:06.82\00:17:09.16
Wow! Isn't that something?
00:17:09.19\00:17:11.46
Tell me that that
wasn't a message for you
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at that particular time.
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I fell on my kitchen
floor Yvonne and I wept
00:17:16.73\00:17:19.87
because God met
me in my humanity.
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Yes, and at your deepest
point of need at that point.
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The end of the story is
that we didn't lose that client
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in fact it grew...
it grew to the point
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where I was able to
be profitable enough
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to where I was able
to start doing ministry
00:17:35.25\00:17:37.59
full time... and that's why
I've been able to start doing
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these films for the Lord.
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Wow! that's incredible.
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If somebody is watching this,
the God of the Bible is real
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He knows your name,
ask Him and He will...
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He will show up if
you're sincere in your heart
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See, people treat God
like a Cosmic Santa Clause
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Yes. and He won't...
00:18:02.81\00:18:04.58
we don't manipulate
God, we can be used by Him
00:18:04.61\00:18:08.55
Right and I think
that's really important
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especially
with... it's kind of the
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"Name it... Claim it"
kind of theory that... you know
00:18:13.76\00:18:17.36
where, "God has to move
because you pushed this button"
00:18:17.39\00:18:21.16
no, no, God moves... He's God...
00:18:21.20\00:18:23.67
He's sovereign, He
is the sovereign God,
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so He moves
when He wants to move
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that doesn't mean that
He doesn't have compassion
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toward us, but it means that
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He's in control, right? Amen
00:18:34.58\00:18:36.88
God is in control, not us
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and we do... sometimes
people do tend to treat God
00:18:39.18\00:18:42.68
as though He is a
Cosmic Santa Clause
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no, God is
sovereign He's in control
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and He was showing
you, "I've got you"
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I love that God desires to
have an intimate relationship
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He desperately wants to
have an intimate relationship
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with each person That's right.
00:19:00.20\00:19:01.60
but the question is,
"How bad do we want Him?"
00:19:01.64\00:19:04.21
That's right, how
bad do we want Him,
00:19:04.24\00:19:07.74
we know how badly He wants us
00:19:07.78\00:19:09.48
He died so that He can
have a relationship with us
00:19:09.51\00:19:13.21
but how much do we
want Him and how...
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I sometimes
think, Chris, you know,
00:19:15.75\00:19:18.15
we put God on the backburner,
00:19:18.22\00:19:21.19
"Well, I've got to do this,
so I'll have a little worship
00:19:21.22\00:19:24.96
devotion time later" or
00:19:24.99\00:19:26.46
"Well, I really want
to watch my favorite show,
00:19:26.49\00:19:29.06
so I'll get back to that" or
00:19:29.10\00:19:31.03
everything comes
before God, Yeah.
00:19:31.07\00:19:34.00
and when we think
about how incredible,
00:19:34.04\00:19:37.64
how faithful God has been to
bring us through every situation
00:19:37.67\00:19:42.81
and yet, we just put
Him on the backburner
00:19:42.84\00:19:45.45
it's like, how can
we treat Him like that?
00:19:45.51\00:19:48.05
You know, so I think that
00:19:48.08\00:19:50.29
it's so important for us
00:19:50.32\00:19:52.49
to remember that the Lord
wants a relationship with us
00:19:52.52\00:19:56.96
how much do we
want that with Him?
00:19:56.99\00:19:59.96
I think that's a great point,
00:20:00.00\00:20:02.06
so where are you now
with your Lifestream,
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what's going on with Lifestream,
what's your latest project?
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We're excited to be working
with Roger Morneau's Estate.
00:20:09.60\00:20:12.71
Roger passed away in 1998,
00:20:12.74\00:20:14.98
some of your
Viewers may remember
00:20:15.01\00:20:16.71
that he was a Demon Worshipper
00:20:16.75\00:20:18.68
and became a Christian
Author and Prayer Warrior
00:20:18.71\00:20:20.95
so we're excited to be able
to do this three-part project
00:20:20.98\00:20:24.95
which started as a book
00:20:24.99\00:20:26.32
and as you go off
into the documentary
00:20:26.35\00:20:28.86
and a feature film
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which we hope to release
in theatres, God willing,
00:20:30.26\00:20:32.29
in the next year or two.
00:20:32.33\00:20:34.40
It would be so nice to
have some kind of balance
00:20:34.46\00:20:39.03
with what's out there,
with the filth that's out there
00:20:39.07\00:20:43.71
and to have
something that people can go to
00:20:43.74\00:20:47.68
that go to theatres...
that can go and watch this movie
00:20:47.71\00:20:51.28
and their hearts can
be turned to the Lord.
00:20:51.31\00:20:53.42
Amen. Tell us a
little bit more about
00:20:53.45\00:20:54.82
Roger's life, I know he wrote
00:20:54.85\00:20:57.05
"Incredible Answers to Prayer"
00:20:57.09\00:20:59.25
what was it,
00:20:59.29\00:21:01.49
what was the
turning point for him
00:21:01.52\00:21:03.93
that brought him to the Lord?
00:21:03.96\00:21:05.69
As a young lad, Roger
couldn't reconcile with
00:21:05.73\00:21:08.73
teachings of his church
with those of the Bible.
00:21:08.76\00:21:11.73
He was a young
lad like 12 years old
00:21:11.77\00:21:13.67
and after his
mother passed away,
00:21:13.74\00:21:15.57
it was the last
straw for him, Yvonne,
00:21:15.60\00:21:18.01
he turned his back on
God and religion completely,
00:21:18.04\00:21:20.48
he, soon after the World War II
00:21:20.54\00:21:24.31
he was invited
into a Secret Society
00:21:24.38\00:21:26.28
they promised
him wealth and power
00:21:26.31\00:21:28.15
and even though he was
charmed by spirits and teachers
00:21:28.18\00:21:31.09
he never felt peace or joy.
00:21:31.12\00:21:32.99
So he actually
was in communication
00:21:33.02\00:21:36.66
directly with spirits. Yes.
00:21:36.69\00:21:38.89
Oh... Yes, and
you know, one night
00:21:38.93\00:21:42.63
after being
pressed by a Satanic priest
00:21:42.66\00:21:45.50
who was part of this
group, they had a "priest" and
00:21:45.53\00:21:48.17
Roger referred to
him as a Satanic priest
00:21:48.20\00:21:50.81
because he was a
Medium, this man,
00:21:50.84\00:21:53.44
who would facilitate the group
00:21:53.48\00:21:55.08
was pressing him to
become initiated to the group
00:21:55.11\00:21:58.28
and one night he cried out,
00:21:58.31\00:21:59.65
"If there is a God in heaven
who cares for me, help me"
00:21:59.68\00:22:03.55
and it was a few days later
that Roger met a man of God
00:22:03.59\00:22:07.62
in the Embroidery
Factory where they worked
00:22:07.66\00:22:09.66
and he ended up
studying the Bible with him
00:22:09.72\00:22:11.69
and in seven days they
covered 28 Bible Studies
00:22:11.73\00:22:14.20
and he was saved,
00:22:14.23\00:22:15.93
instead of giving his
heart to the devil that week,
00:22:15.96\00:22:18.03
he gave his heart to Jesus.
00:22:18.07\00:22:19.83
So that was the week of decision
for him, he was either... wow!
00:22:19.87\00:22:23.04
It was Halloween 1946, wow!
00:22:23.07\00:22:26.98
yeah, and you know,
00:22:27.01\00:22:28.51
there has not been a story
in the 20th Century, I think,
00:22:28.54\00:22:32.15
more incredibly dramatic as
Roger's conversion story and so,
00:22:32.18\00:22:35.75
we're excited
about the potential
00:22:35.78\00:22:37.35
for ministry to
help people understand
00:22:37.39\00:22:40.32
why truth matters today
00:22:40.36\00:22:41.72
because Roger didn't just
get saved from demon worship
00:22:41.76\00:22:44.16
he got saved from
deception in Christianity even
00:22:44.19\00:22:49.06
the deception of Sunday worship
00:22:49.10\00:22:50.73
and of the "State of
the Dead" for example,
00:22:50.77\00:22:53.00
so this is part of
the Protestant Movement
00:22:53.03\00:22:56.27
this is part of
working with God side by side
00:22:56.30\00:22:59.47
to help finish it
so Jesus can come.
00:22:59.51\00:23:01.48
Oh yes, oh yes, how did you...
00:23:01.51\00:23:04.91
well... I know that...
00:23:04.95\00:23:08.28
were you raised an
Adventist? Hmmm... hmmm...
00:23:08.35\00:23:10.59
How did you really
get to the place where
00:23:10.65\00:23:12.85
your relationship with the
Lord is foundational for you?
00:23:12.89\00:23:17.69
How did you get to...
00:23:17.73\00:23:19.06
were you always
walking with the Lord,
00:23:19.09\00:23:20.66
or did you go away and come back
00:23:20.70\00:23:22.10
how did you reach a place
00:23:22.13\00:23:24.60
of being settled in the Lord?
00:23:24.63\00:23:28.30
That's a great question,
Yvonne, I would have to say,
00:23:28.34\00:23:31.27
I was involved
in music ministry,
00:23:31.31\00:23:35.41
I was married at the time
00:23:35.44\00:23:37.05
I even had a
little dog named Samson
00:23:37.08\00:23:39.58
and at that time in my life
00:23:39.61\00:23:41.78
a lot of people
might have thought,
00:23:41.82\00:23:43.32
"Well, Chris Lang
has it all together"
00:23:43.35\00:23:44.82
but it wasn't until I
went through a divorce
00:23:44.85\00:23:47.39
that I was flat on my
back emotionally, spiritually,
00:23:47.42\00:23:51.33
in many ways,
00:23:51.39\00:23:52.73
in many respects, I
was lower than a carpet,
00:23:52.76\00:23:54.90
and really
struggling for a couple of years
00:23:54.93\00:23:57.67
in the wilderness
but God met me there
00:23:57.70\00:23:59.77
and really helped to...
00:23:59.80\00:24:01.67
helped by meeting me there,
00:24:01.70\00:24:05.01
there was a root system
that went deeper, Yvonne,
00:24:05.07\00:24:07.38
because I was able to empathize
00:24:07.44\00:24:09.21
with other hurting
people in a different way,
00:24:09.24\00:24:11.38
I like to tell people I
learned to speak Chinese,
00:24:11.41\00:24:13.88
because you know, you
can feel bad for people
00:24:13.92\00:24:16.35
when they go through something
00:24:16.38\00:24:17.72
but it's not until you
go through it yourself,
00:24:17.75\00:24:19.39
that you actually
can speak the language.
00:24:19.42\00:24:20.89
That's true.
00:24:20.96\00:24:22.29
And I'm the only person
who's been through a divorce
00:24:22.32\00:24:24.93
in my family, we're very close,
00:24:24.96\00:24:26.36
but God knows what
you're going through,
00:24:26.39\00:24:29.43
God understands,
and God will meet you
00:24:29.46\00:24:32.17
if you're hurting,
the Viewers out there,
00:24:32.20\00:24:34.87
if you're hurting,
00:24:34.90\00:24:36.24
you don't think
anyone understands,
00:24:36.27\00:24:37.67
God will meet you there and
He'll minister to your heart
00:24:37.71\00:24:41.31
in a way that no one else can,
00:24:41.34\00:24:42.68
so when you asked me,
00:24:42.71\00:24:44.05
"Where did you
find your root system?"
00:24:44.08\00:24:45.58
I believe that it was through
that wilderness experience
00:24:45.61\00:24:48.65
Yvonne, and God
wanted me to understand
00:24:48.68\00:24:51.25
that there's only one place
that I can go to find stability
00:24:51.29\00:24:55.56
and the endurance
that everyone needs
00:24:55.59\00:24:59.76
to continue on that
journey that you're called on
00:24:59.79\00:25:02.56
because it takes endurance
like in Hebrews 11, right?
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"Moses endured as
seeing Him who was invisible"
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and that has to be the wealth,
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that can't be the
world's wealth that we seek
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but that wealth
of the fellowship
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of the Holy Spirit, Yes.
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and it was
through that brokenness
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that I found, I said,
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"Lord, I never thought
that I'd say 'thank you'
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for that experience
that I had to go through"
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Isn't it true,
isn't it true, Chris, that
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when you're in
that wilderness period,
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because I've had mine
too, when you're in there,
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you don't...
sometimes, I know for me,
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you don't really want to hear,
"Oh, it's going to be okay"
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I'm in this period right now
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but you see the
faithfulness of God
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and when you come through it,
when he brings you through it,
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you do want to say, "Thank you"
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and you do want to
say, "You know what?
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even though I don't want
to go through that again,
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it made me a better Christian
because I can love Him more
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because of what He did for me. "
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You don't want
that wilderness period
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but it's through that suffering
that you really find Him
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because it's in that dark place
that He shows Himself faithful
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and when nobody
else is there for you,
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and when there's
nothing else going on for you,
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He is there and you feel Him
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and He reaches out
to you through the Word
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through other
people, through circumstances
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but you know, that it's God,
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that He's brought you
through and you can say,
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"Thank you Lord. "
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"Blessed be the
name of the Lord. "
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Yes, yes, we're having
some church up here, Chris,
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that's some
church up here for sure,
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yeah, because when you
think about the goodness of God,
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and the more
you've been through,
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the more you
appreciate who He is,
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and what He's done,
so, I praise the Lord for
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what He's been
doing in your life.
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What's your website
00:27:08.66\00:27:10.09
so that people can
go and check you out.
00:27:10.13\00:27:12.23
Lifestreams.
org Lifestreams. org
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we'll put it up on the screen
and make sure that people know
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how to reach you,
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is there any closing
thought, one sentence
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that you want
the Viewers to know?
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Don't believe
your life is average,
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if you believe in Jesus Christ,
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you're not the Lead
Character in your story,
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Jesus Christ is
the Lead Character
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He's the alpha and
the omega of history.
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Amen, thank you so
much for being with us
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we really appreciate it,
we appreciate your story,
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we appreciate your journey
00:27:47.70\00:27:49.03
and we know God's got
great things in store for you
00:27:49.06\00:27:52.03
and thank you for joining us,
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join us next time
because you know what?
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It just wouldn't be
the same without you.
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