Stay tuned to meet a couple whose lives have been redeemed 00:00:01.33\00:00:04.03 by the Power of God. 00:00:04.07\00:00:05.40 My name is Yvonne Lewis 00:00:05.43\00:00:06.77 and you're watching Urban Report. 00:00:06.80\00:00:08.44 Hello and welcome to Urban Report. 00:00:30.59\00:00:32.79 My guests today are Xavier and Britanny Morales 00:00:32.83\00:00:35.86 Panelists on D2D's Program, Pure Choices, 00:00:35.90\00:00:38.70 I went to their Set to get their stories, 00:00:38.73\00:00:41.54 take a peak... 00:00:41.57\00:00:46.21 I'm so blessed to be here on the Set of Pure Choices 00:00:46.24\00:00:51.08 with two of the Panelists 00:00:51.11\00:00:53.75 of one of my favorite programs, Pure Choices. 00:00:53.78\00:00:56.55 Xavier Morales and Britanny Hill-Morales, 00:00:56.62\00:01:00.56 welcome to Urban Report on Pure Choices' Set. 00:01:00.59\00:01:03.93 You both... 00:01:03.96\00:01:07.50 have done a wonderful job, 00:01:07.50\00:01:09.60 you've been on Pure Choices for a while 00:01:09.63\00:01:12.07 Britanny, you've been on for... how many Seasons? 00:01:12.10\00:01:14.24 This will be my third... 00:01:14.27\00:01:15.60 we just finished up our third Season. 00:01:15.64\00:01:16.97 And you Xavier? 00:01:17.01\00:01:18.74 This is my second Season. 00:01:18.81\00:01:20.94 It's so great to have you, 00:01:20.98\00:01:23.08 one of the things that I love is to have married couples on... 00:01:23.11\00:01:27.18 young married couples who have been through struggles 00:01:27.22\00:01:30.95 and God has given you the victory 00:01:30.99\00:01:34.16 and you both had a very interesting courtship 00:01:34.22\00:01:38.06 because, so many times when people are courting, 00:01:38.09\00:01:41.93 they fall into sexual sin, 00:01:41.96\00:01:44.43 you guys were able to be celibate during your courtship, 00:01:44.47\00:01:49.70 praise God, how did you do that? 00:01:49.74\00:01:52.67 Oh wow! interesting... it was a struggle 00:01:52.71\00:01:58.01 because we had to learn what boundaries to set 00:01:58.05\00:02:01.18 we had to have... 00:02:01.22\00:02:02.72 like a no-kissing clause in our relationship 00:02:02.75\00:02:05.32 because we knew how it would, I guess, 00:02:05.35\00:02:09.22 get us more interested or more wound up 00:02:09.26\00:02:12.96 and want each other more, so we had to set boundaries 00:02:12.99\00:02:15.90 set certain timeframes 00:02:15.93\00:02:18.20 for how long we'd be around each other 00:02:18.23\00:02:20.20 and how late we'd be around each other 00:02:20.24\00:02:22.14 and there was a period when people thought 00:02:22.17\00:02:24.07 maybe I didn't like kissing or he didn't like kissing 00:02:24.11\00:02:26.11 we're like, "No, we just know each other 00:02:26.14\00:02:27.94 and we're trying to have a certain framework. " 00:02:27.98\00:02:30.71 Yeah, I think it was difficult for us too 00:02:30.75\00:02:33.42 because of our pasts, our different pasts, 00:02:33.48\00:02:36.35 we wished... my past and everything, 00:02:36.38\00:02:39.19 you had to, we just prayed and asked God 00:02:39.22\00:02:43.59 about... individually... individually, collectively 00:02:43.63\00:02:46.56 we prayed asking God, "What should we do, 00:02:46.59\00:02:48.33 because not everything that pertains to somebody 00:02:48.36\00:02:50.53 might pertain to us, 00:02:50.60\00:02:51.93 something might be a stumbling block for them 00:02:51.97\00:02:54.10 but it's not for us and vice versa 00:02:54.17\00:02:55.67 Hmmm... hmmm... so we really had to hold down 00:02:55.70\00:02:57.87 and sit down and both of us communicated as to the 00:02:57.91\00:03:00.48 boundaries to make sure that we were one accord.. 00:03:00.51\00:03:02.94 Definitely. So, what you're telling me 00:03:02.98\00:03:05.98 is that you were intentional about it. 00:03:06.05\00:03:08.18 Hmmm... hmmm... 00:03:08.22\00:03:09.55 It wasn't something that you said, 00:03:09.58\00:03:10.92 "I just want to do this... " 00:03:10.99\00:03:12.95 no, you sought God on how to do it, 00:03:12.99\00:03:16.49 and then, God gave you the insight to set boundaries, 00:03:16.52\00:03:21.80 to set places that you would go and wouldn't go 00:03:21.83\00:03:25.20 in your relationship, I think this is so important 00:03:25.27\00:03:29.00 for young and old to hear because it's so easy 00:03:29.04\00:03:32.77 to fall into that 00:03:32.81\00:03:34.74 and as we talk about 00:03:34.78\00:03:36.64 or you guys talk about on Pure Choices, 00:03:36.71\00:03:38.85 you have to be intentional, you have to seek God 00:03:38.88\00:03:43.39 and you have to know 00:03:43.45\00:03:44.79 that I'm not going to do certain things 00:03:44.82\00:03:47.16 because it's not part of God's perfect plan for me. 00:03:47.22\00:03:50.89 Hmmm... hmmm... Yeah, and partially also, 00:03:50.93\00:03:53.56 I had to do a prayer saying, 00:03:53.60\00:03:55.23 "God, I'm attracted to this person in this way, 00:03:55.26\00:03:57.40 dear Lord, hide my desires, take it away 00:03:57.43\00:04:00.14 until our wedding day, 00:04:00.17\00:04:01.84 dear Lord, kind of, put on a control, like... 00:04:01.87\00:04:04.57 make me not want him at all, just remove it" 00:04:04.61\00:04:07.31 and I had to do that prayer like... 00:04:07.38\00:04:08.71 over and over and over again until one day I was like, 00:04:08.74\00:04:10.75 "Okay, I can be around you, it's all right. " 00:04:10.78\00:04:12.91 It's kind of neat too, like, for me 00:04:12.95\00:04:16.38 as, you have to be self-aware 00:04:16.42\00:04:17.99 and I know it sounds funny talking about her sometimes 00:04:18.02\00:04:21.89 but, like in my family, on my Dad's side, 00:04:21.92\00:04:24.36 we have a testosterone issue where we overproduce 00:04:24.39\00:04:27.10 and overproducing testosterone you know like, 00:04:27.13\00:04:29.83 you get that instinct that urge and everything 00:04:29.86\00:04:32.57 so it's hard, it's very difficult, 00:04:32.60\00:04:34.64 so you really, you know, and again it sounds funny 00:04:34.67\00:04:38.27 but it does pertain to me and it worked 00:04:38.31\00:04:40.24 I exercised a lot, I did many different things 00:04:40.28\00:04:43.55 and prayed and just asked God 00:04:43.61\00:04:44.95 because I generally wanted to show 00:04:44.98\00:04:48.02 my future spouse that respect 00:04:48.05\00:04:50.85 to her that she deserved. 00:04:50.89\00:04:52.59 Even though it was difficult at times because you know 00:04:52.65\00:04:55.49 you're human, that flesh kicks in 00:04:55.52\00:04:58.09 you really want to be conscientious of respecting 00:04:58.13\00:05:01.36 and really, really, really putting God in the middle. 00:05:01.40\00:05:04.70 Look at, you know, for me, I'm so impressed by this 00:05:04.73\00:05:07.97 because, what you're saying is that 00:05:08.00\00:05:10.54 you even fought your own physiology 00:05:10.61\00:05:12.84 Hmmm... hmmm... because there is that 00:05:12.87\00:05:15.04 excessive testosterone, it's a hormonal thing, 00:05:15.11\00:05:18.21 you even, were able, by the grace of God 00:05:18.25\00:05:20.82 to subdue the flesh, both of you, 00:05:20.85\00:05:24.52 subdue the flesh and you said 00:05:24.55\00:05:27.16 you wanted to respect her and how beautiful is that? 00:05:27.19\00:05:31.16 You wanted to respect your future wife 00:05:31.19\00:05:34.00 and you were respecting your future husband. 00:05:34.10\00:05:37.57 How do you think that what you did in courtship 00:05:37.60\00:05:41.10 impacted your marriage? 00:05:41.14\00:05:43.41 Oooh, I think it made our marriage better 00:05:43.47\00:05:47.24 How? 00:05:47.28\00:05:48.61 because we valued each other 00:05:48.64\00:05:51.11 and for me what was most important 00:05:51.15\00:05:53.38 is valuing his relationship with God 00:05:53.42\00:05:55.52 I didn't want to 00:05:55.55\00:05:57.05 be that hindrance... that block... 00:05:57.09\00:05:59.32 that caused him to stumble 00:05:59.35\00:06:00.79 and not stay connected to Christ 00:06:00.82\00:06:03.19 so because that principle was there, 00:06:03.22\00:06:05.66 before we got married, it went into our marriage 00:06:05.69\00:06:10.07 and that allowed us to say, 00:06:10.17\00:06:12.00 "Okay God, what do you want us to do, 00:06:12.03\00:06:13.64 even now that we're married, how... we keep Him first, 00:06:13.67\00:06:17.21 so that was so crucial that because we did that before, 00:06:17.24\00:06:20.68 and we had that mindset, it just allowed it to flow 00:06:20.71\00:06:24.15 and it felt like our marriage 00:06:24.18\00:06:25.68 was just taking its natural course 00:06:25.71\00:06:28.05 it seemed like it was like a natural transition 00:06:28.08\00:06:31.42 like for some people, it's harder because 00:06:31.45\00:06:33.66 you know, one moment... you're not married 00:06:33.69\00:06:35.62 and the next moment... it just seemed natural 00:06:35.66\00:06:37.46 it seemed like it was just a perfect timing. 00:06:37.53\00:06:40.20 I think, for me, because again, my past, 00:06:40.30\00:06:41.90 what I've been through, I'd never taken my time 00:06:41.96\00:06:44.87 and this forced me to take my time 00:06:44.90\00:06:47.50 and actually I was enjoying it, you know, 00:06:47.60\00:06:50.17 I got to see... I got to build a friendship 00:06:50.21\00:06:52.31 because my parents... 00:06:52.34\00:06:53.68 they had been married for 39 years, 00:06:53.74\00:06:55.08 and they were going to get divorced for a while, 00:06:55.11\00:06:58.28 and I asked them what was their secret 00:06:58.31\00:07:00.15 and they said, they were friends first, 00:07:00.18\00:07:02.08 and for us, it's like, we established 00:07:02.12\00:07:04.02 a really strong friendship foundation first, 00:07:04.05\00:07:06.79 to really just get to know each other 00:07:06.82\00:07:09.46 and go with eyes wide open 00:07:09.52\00:07:10.99 to other red flags and things like that 00:07:11.03\00:07:13.43 and also deal with our baggage, because everybody brings baggage 00:07:13.46\00:07:16.20 so really deal with our baggage 00:07:16.23\00:07:18.20 before we got into the marriage. 00:07:18.23\00:07:20.04 Hmmm... hmmm... 00:07:20.07\00:07:21.40 That is so beautiful, see, I want our Viewers to know 00:07:21.44\00:07:25.01 that if they're in a relationship, 00:07:25.04\00:07:27.94 that is including sex and they're not married yet 00:07:27.98\00:07:31.85 and they're... they're fornicating, 00:07:31.88\00:07:33.85 that God can deliver you from that, 00:07:33.92\00:07:35.78 then you can stop, you have to be equally yoked, 00:07:35.82\00:07:39.19 so that your partner understands 00:07:39.22\00:07:42.09 and wants to also stop and do the right thing 00:07:42.12\00:07:46.26 and you can, if you have God in the mix 00:07:46.29\00:07:50.33 at the center of a relationship, you can stop 00:07:50.37\00:07:54.14 and if you haven't started, don't start, 00:07:54.20\00:07:57.94 let God lead and follow this example 00:07:57.97\00:08:01.01 of being intentional and praying 00:08:01.04\00:08:03.21 and asking God for the strength 00:08:03.24\00:08:05.38 and it makes no sense for God to withhold that from you 00:08:05.41\00:08:08.88 if you ask Him for it. 00:08:08.95\00:08:10.55 Definitely. Let's talk a little bit about 00:08:10.62\00:08:12.72 the baggage that you mentioned 00:08:12.75\00:08:14.69 what did you... let's hear a little bit about 00:08:14.72\00:08:17.19 your testimonies, 00:08:17.26\00:08:18.59 Britanny, tell us where you came from 00:08:18.63\00:08:20.26 and some of the challenges that you had 00:08:20.33\00:08:22.13 that made you a good panelist for Pure Choices? 00:08:22.16\00:08:26.97 Some of the... wow... I guess it even started 00:08:27.04\00:08:32.04 when I was a baby, not really knowing my father 00:08:32.07\00:08:37.15 my mom says he was always around 00:08:37.18\00:08:39.88 but for me it didn't seem that way 00:08:39.95\00:08:42.65 and then when I was four I viewed my first... 00:08:42.68\00:08:46.32 it wasn't really a pornographic movie, 00:08:46.35\00:08:48.59 my Grandma was just watching something 00:08:48.62\00:08:50.83 and had a scene in it, and from that moment 00:08:50.86\00:08:54.46 like something was in my head, like... for years, 00:08:54.46\00:08:57.80 I think only now I can say, I can firmly say, 00:08:57.83\00:09:00.87 I don't remember it, but for all those years, 00:09:00.90\00:09:03.84 I could always replay who was in it, 00:09:03.87\00:09:06.07 what they were doing, what place they were, 00:09:06.14\00:09:08.58 and it just kept on progressing, 00:09:08.64\00:09:11.68 and when I was about six years old, 00:09:11.71\00:09:14.72 a girl in my class starting... was doing 00:09:14.75\00:09:17.92 the exact thing that was in the movie to me... 00:09:17.95\00:09:19.95 and that... I had no idea what this was, 00:09:20.02\00:09:24.16 it was doing something to my body 00:09:24.19\00:09:26.56 and I had no idea and I started acting out 00:09:26.59\00:09:30.47 in sexual ways, I didn't know it was sexual 00:09:30.50\00:09:34.27 but I also knew I shouldn't show my parents this 00:09:34.30\00:09:36.64 so I was acting very... 00:09:36.71\00:09:39.04 kind of like... a little bit seductively 00:09:39.11\00:09:41.28 and they didn't really understand why 00:09:41.31\00:09:43.48 and then as time progressed, 00:09:43.55\00:09:45.21 I think I was around eight or nine, 00:09:45.25\00:09:47.05 more girls, they... one day said, 00:09:47.12\00:09:49.52 "Hey, let's just have some fun" 00:09:49.55\00:09:52.75 I had no idea what this "fun" was, 00:09:52.79\00:09:54.62 we started seeing videos on the computer, 00:09:54.66\00:09:58.56 I had no idea what this really is, 00:09:58.59\00:10:01.16 I knew it had to stay hidden, 00:10:01.20\00:10:03.13 but I didn't know what it really was until I was eleven, 00:10:03.20\00:10:08.47 and we did... in our school, 00:10:08.50\00:10:11.61 when you turned Grade Six, they give you books, 00:10:11.64\00:10:13.64 they give you information, they tell you about your body 00:10:13.68\00:10:16.71 and I was like, "Oh, that's what that was" 00:10:16.75\00:10:19.21 but I thought it was okay because it wasn't with a guy 00:10:19.25\00:10:22.82 and it was okay because I wasn't actually doing 00:10:22.85\00:10:26.92 hardcore stuff, I was just looking, 00:10:26.96\00:10:29.16 I was just talking to people, "it's okay" 00:10:29.19\00:10:32.43 I had no idea that I was damaging myself 00:10:32.49\00:10:35.70 but I was so accustomed to it 00:10:35.73\00:10:38.60 that by the time I was 13 or 14, 00:10:38.63\00:10:41.44 and my uncle came and he lived with us, 00:10:41.47\00:10:43.44 he was abusive in how he spoke to me 00:10:43.47\00:10:45.81 and how he treated me, 00:10:45.84\00:10:47.58 he was my favorite uncle for years, 00:10:47.64\00:10:49.34 and it was such a switch to feel such... 00:10:49.38\00:10:52.25 like he clearly told people he hated me 00:10:52.28\00:10:55.68 and it was so hurtful, I felt so rejected 00:10:55.72\00:10:59.05 that I was always hiding in my room 00:10:59.12\00:11:01.72 and because I was hiding in my room, 00:11:01.76\00:11:04.33 I was watching pornography. 00:11:04.36\00:11:06.46 How old were you at this point? 00:11:06.49\00:11:08.56 Fourteen... thirteen... I was hiding in my room 00:11:08.60\00:11:11.67 and probably my parents just thought, 00:11:11.70\00:11:14.44 "Oh, she's just there doing, you know, 00:11:14.47\00:11:16.44 whatever stuff doing her schoolwork" 00:11:16.47\00:11:18.41 because I was really a good student, 00:11:18.44\00:11:19.77 if you can go back a little bit, 00:11:19.81\00:11:22.58 that's kind of part of my testimony too, 00:11:22.64\00:11:24.51 before I was a good student and then I got baptized 00:11:24.55\00:11:27.98 and God increased my intelligence 00:11:28.02\00:11:30.05 and I became First in my Class, 00:11:30.09\00:11:32.05 I was in the Top Ten in the whole island of Antigua, 00:11:32.09\00:11:34.96 and God really increased it 00:11:34.99\00:11:36.56 but when this abuse was happening 00:11:36.59\00:11:38.73 all these different things were going on 00:11:38.76\00:11:40.66 and I was watching pornography, sacrificing my schoolwork, 00:11:40.70\00:11:44.20 I kind of fell in my academics and it was just 00:11:44.23\00:11:50.54 so crazy how 00:11:50.57\00:11:52.04 I started talking to people online, 00:11:52.07\00:11:55.38 I wasn't sending them any pictures of myself, 00:11:55.41\00:11:58.01 no video, no nothing, but they were like... 00:11:58.05\00:12:00.72 I was like sexting over the incident, 00:12:00.75\00:12:04.09 they were telling me what to do 00:12:04.19\00:12:05.59 and I was telling them their responses, 00:12:05.62\00:12:07.56 and it was that type of conversation 00:12:07.66\00:12:09.49 and then it turned into more cyber sexting 00:12:09.52\00:12:11.66 and that's just what I was doing 00:12:11.69\00:12:14.30 to deal with this abuse, hide away 00:12:14.30\00:12:16.87 and try to be okay. 00:12:16.93\00:12:18.97 Wow! that is so... so, at what point did you 00:12:19.00\00:12:24.27 realize that, "Wait, I'm being abused here" 00:12:24.31\00:12:28.64 did you ever realize that this is not okay 00:12:28.68\00:12:33.05 there's something wrong here 00:12:33.08\00:12:34.52 and was it just verbal abuse or did it become sexual abuse? 00:12:34.55\00:12:37.99 It was never sexual, it was always verbal 00:12:38.02\00:12:41.49 and there were a few cases where it was physical 00:12:41.52\00:12:44.29 where, if I was in the way, 00:12:44.33\00:12:46.33 I was being pushed out of the way, 00:12:46.36\00:12:47.93 and if I was in the kitchen, 00:12:47.96\00:12:49.70 and I left like, maybe just a fork, 00:12:49.73\00:12:51.43 "Oh why did you leave the fork here, you're so nasty, 00:12:51.47\00:12:54.80 you're so this... " and mainly if I was in the way, 00:12:54.87\00:12:58.07 I got the fridge slammed on my hand 00:12:58.11\00:13:00.61 and because I was in the way 00:13:00.68\00:13:02.01 and it started causing this tension 00:13:02.04\00:13:04.41 between my mom and her brother, 00:13:04.48\00:13:07.05 where there was a point where he came in with a cutlass, 00:13:07.12\00:13:11.22 my mom pulled out her knife and it seemed, for a moment, 00:13:11.25\00:13:14.66 there was going to be a... like a really bloody fight, 00:13:14.69\00:13:18.06 and the police had to... my mom and I... 00:13:18.09\00:13:20.40 my mom didn't do anything, 00:13:20.43\00:13:21.73 she said, "Honey get dressed" we jumped in the car, 00:13:21.76\00:13:23.83 got the police, came back, 00:13:23.87\00:13:25.80 but because it didn't escalate I guess, 00:13:25.83\00:13:29.24 to the way that they thought it should have escalated, 00:13:29.27\00:13:31.21 they took him away, and I cried 00:13:31.24\00:13:33.94 but I was happy, but then they brought him back 00:13:33.98\00:13:36.95 and in that moment, my mom was like, 00:13:37.01\00:13:43.59 "We can't stay here anymore" 00:13:43.65\00:13:45.02 she was taking care of my Grandma 00:13:45.05\00:13:46.39 she's like, "We can't stay here anymore" 00:13:46.42\00:13:48.56 so, she had a land 00:13:48.59\00:13:50.63 and she started building her house 00:13:50.69\00:13:52.03 and we moved out. 00:13:52.06\00:13:53.40 So, I knew it wasn't okay, 00:13:53.46\00:13:57.33 but that was also my Grandma's favorite 00:13:57.40\00:13:59.27 so I know, he was her only one and baby boy 00:13:59.30\00:14:01.74 so it was like, 00:14:01.77\00:14:03.61 "Okay, so I'm just going to go to church, 00:14:03.64\00:14:05.17 smile, be happy, get really active, 00:14:05.21\00:14:08.04 go to school, be really active, be really happy, 00:14:08.08\00:14:11.88 and also because of who my parents were, 00:14:11.91\00:14:15.35 I didn't really want anyone else 00:14:15.38\00:14:17.19 to really know what was really happening 00:14:17.22\00:14:19.35 because I didn't want them to look bad also. 00:14:19.39\00:14:21.49 Because your parents were very prominent on the island? 00:14:21.56\00:14:24.73 Yes, they were, and I didn't want anyone 00:14:24.76\00:14:27.66 to look down on our family, 00:14:27.73\00:14:29.03 so even though all of these things were happening, 00:14:29.06\00:14:32.10 I said, I'm going to make sure that people see us 00:14:32.13\00:14:35.17 as this great family, 00:14:35.20\00:14:36.91 Britanny is this wonderful person 00:14:36.97\00:14:39.21 she was in the Top Ten on the Island, 00:14:39.24\00:14:41.98 she was doing so much things at church, 00:14:42.01\00:14:44.61 she's a singer, she can probably preach, 00:14:44.65\00:14:47.18 she could get active, she was Pathfinder of the Year, 00:14:47.22\00:14:49.92 she can do all these different things 00:14:49.95\00:14:51.65 everything is great with her, she's down-to-earth, 00:14:51.69\00:14:53.62 the guys think she's really cool 00:14:53.66\00:14:55.16 the girls think, "Oh, she's nice too" 00:14:55.19\00:14:57.99 but I was hurting so much inside 00:14:58.03\00:15:00.83 that my place to go to was pornography 00:15:00.86\00:15:03.26 and to be there and to, what I thought was like, 00:15:03.37\00:15:07.17 coping with everything. 00:15:07.24\00:15:08.67 What impact does pornography have on your spirit? 00:15:08.70\00:15:14.18 It makes you feel dirty, 00:15:14.21\00:15:18.41 it makes you wonder what's wrong with you, 00:15:18.45\00:15:23.69 especially as a woman 00:15:23.72\00:15:25.49 because it's stated that women don't really have 00:15:25.52\00:15:28.56 those sexual desires so you're wondering, 00:15:28.59\00:15:31.83 "What's wrong with me, or, 00:15:31.86\00:15:33.19 maybe it's okay because I'm not going all the way 00:15:33.23\00:15:35.73 so you start like trying to rationalize it in your mind 00:15:35.76\00:15:39.63 but I think only as I got older 00:15:39.67\00:15:43.14 I realized how it really truly affected me 00:15:43.17\00:15:45.81 where I'm looking around and I'm looking at couples 00:15:45.87\00:15:48.68 and I'm wondering what do they look like in bed, 00:15:48.71\00:15:51.51 that shouldn't even be a thought in my mind 00:15:51.55\00:15:53.78 but I'm looking at people and instead of hearing a sermon, 00:15:53.82\00:15:56.85 I'm wondering about this person, 00:15:56.89\00:15:58.49 and even started just hearing a person saying, "I'm wondering" 00:15:58.52\00:16:01.96 so it kind of has that 00:16:01.99\00:16:03.76 hindrance on because 00:16:03.79\00:16:05.13 you can't fully function in the way 00:16:05.16\00:16:07.60 that you're supposed to fully function. 00:16:07.66\00:16:09.00 Very interesting, see I... 00:16:09.03\00:16:12.23 there are so many young people, Britanny, 00:16:12.27\00:16:15.70 who are dealing with similar situations 00:16:15.77\00:16:19.17 as far as having drifted off into 00:16:19.21\00:16:22.38 pornography and also having to keep up appearances 00:16:22.41\00:16:27.72 things are going terribly at home 00:16:27.75\00:16:30.02 and yet, I've got to act like it's all good, 00:16:30.09\00:16:33.76 and I've got to put up that front 00:16:33.79\00:16:35.86 and so, if you don't have anybody to talk to about it 00:16:35.89\00:16:40.20 and if your relationship with Christ isn't... 00:16:40.23\00:16:42.13 if you're not centered in Him, 00:16:42.16\00:16:44.03 which, if you were centered in Him, 00:16:44.07\00:16:45.57 you wouldn't have the other issues 00:16:45.60\00:16:47.10 going on right... but if... 00:16:47.14\00:16:48.64 once you get centered in Him, those issues can, 00:16:48.67\00:16:53.74 just kind of dissolve, so how did you find Christ 00:16:53.78\00:16:58.68 and then I'm going to talk to Xavier a bit. 00:16:58.75\00:17:00.65 The interesting thing is Christ was always there with me 00:17:00.68\00:17:06.39 I was building a relationship with Him 00:17:06.42\00:17:10.46 and kind of how that kind of started was 00:17:10.49\00:17:14.36 I was suicidal for a moment, and my friend told me 00:17:14.40\00:17:17.67 that if I get in really, really good with God, 00:17:17.70\00:17:20.94 and I do it, then I'll still be okay. 00:17:20.97\00:17:23.61 That was kind of the philosophy, so I was like, 00:17:23.64\00:17:25.94 okay, I can get really, really good with God, 00:17:26.01\00:17:28.14 and then when things are really, really crazy 00:17:28.18\00:17:30.25 and I can't handle it anymore, He'll still accept me 00:17:30.28\00:17:32.58 because I did this, so there was that period 00:17:32.61\00:17:36.48 but as I was getting to know God, 00:17:36.55\00:17:39.15 I was getting to know God, Right. 00:17:39.19\00:17:41.72 and He was just comforting me through the different situations 00:17:41.79\00:17:48.20 so... but I think what most people don't understand 00:17:48.23\00:17:51.37 about porn addiction is how it affects your mind 00:17:51.40\00:17:54.54 and how it's really a struggle 00:17:54.57\00:17:58.87 so even though I'm in love with Christ, 00:17:58.91\00:18:02.98 I love Him, I'm spending this time with Him, 00:18:03.01\00:18:05.21 I'm also fighting against myself 00:18:05.25\00:18:07.35 because sex is something that's supposed to... 00:18:07.38\00:18:10.15 your sexuality is natural but now it's perverted 00:18:10.22\00:18:12.92 to now, because I don't have anyone to talk to, 00:18:12.95\00:18:15.66 I can't really tell anyone, 00:18:15.69\00:18:17.86 I'm trying to figure out on my own 00:18:17.89\00:18:19.83 how do I figure out 00:18:19.86\00:18:22.43 the right form of sexuality for myself, 00:18:22.46\00:18:25.67 and I've also deluded myself into thinking 00:18:25.70\00:18:28.77 I can stop anytime, so that was my period 00:18:28.80\00:18:31.81 I can stop anytime, so, I stopped 00:18:31.84\00:18:34.48 and then for some reason, three weeks later, 00:18:34.51\00:18:37.25 something happens and I'm right back with it, 00:18:37.28\00:18:40.02 like... "Why am I right back with it, 00:18:40.05\00:18:42.05 why did I just watch this, what happened in my mind 00:18:42.08\00:18:46.59 to make me go straight back?" and as time progressed, 00:18:46.62\00:18:50.73 I'd say Christ was my own... He did a "rehab" with me 00:18:50.76\00:18:54.46 where He showed me all the things that I repressed, 00:18:54.46\00:18:58.17 the abuse that happened to me when I was a child 00:18:58.20\00:19:01.90 how I didn't really think about it 00:19:01.94\00:19:03.74 and I tossed it to the side, the issues with my father, 00:19:03.77\00:19:07.11 and how I felt like he should have rescued me 00:19:07.14\00:19:10.88 through the abuse and how I felt like he wasn't there 00:19:10.91\00:19:14.42 and He took me through that process 00:19:14.45\00:19:17.05 where... and also He was like, "Fall in love with me, 00:19:17.12\00:19:20.29 don't worry about, you know, 00:19:20.32\00:19:22.12 when you stumble or when you fall 00:19:22.16\00:19:23.49 fall in love with me, focus on that first, 00:19:23.56\00:19:25.59 and I was like, "Okay, but I'm falling... " 00:19:25.63\00:19:27.66 but, "No, no, no, focus on that first" 00:19:27.66\00:19:29.53 focus on my grace, and I'm so grateful for that 00:19:29.56\00:19:33.47 because when I truly was able to accept 00:19:33.54\00:19:37.21 that God loves me, for me, 00:19:37.24\00:19:41.24 He wants me and because of that love 00:19:41.28\00:19:45.48 I grew for Him back, 00:19:45.51\00:19:47.32 it was a lot easier to say, 00:19:47.35\00:19:49.38 "I'm not going to watch pornography right now" 00:19:49.42\00:19:51.65 yes, I really didn't want to, my mind has all these sharps 00:19:51.69\00:19:54.36 "I'm not going to watch it because it's going to hurt Him" 00:19:54.39\00:19:57.03 I had to truly learn how to trust and love Him 00:19:57.06\00:20:00.50 so I was like, "Okay God, 00:20:00.53\00:20:01.83 I guess you did have a perfect purpose 00:20:01.86\00:20:03.93 for you wanting me to focus on you first, 00:20:03.97\00:20:06.00 instead of trying to struggle with this on my own. " 00:20:06.07\00:20:09.70 That is so beautiful because it's the grace of God 00:20:09.74\00:20:13.38 that leads us to Him, 00:20:13.44\00:20:16.34 it's the grace of God that sustains us 00:20:16.38\00:20:18.65 that keeps us from going back, falling back into it 00:20:18.71\00:20:23.55 because you... you love Him now 00:20:23.59\00:20:25.52 and you don't want to hurt Him, that is so, so, so true 00:20:25.59\00:20:30.69 and so beautiful. Hmmm... Hmmm... 00:20:30.73\00:20:32.23 What about you Xavier, just give us like a synopsis 00:20:32.26\00:20:36.40 of your testimony for those who never saw 00:20:36.43\00:20:38.33 that other Urban Report where I interviewed you. 00:20:38.37\00:20:41.07 Sure, I grew up in the church 00:20:41.10\00:20:42.77 and did what every good Adventist kid is supposed to do 00:20:42.80\00:20:46.04 vegetarian and everything... the works... 00:20:46.07\00:20:47.64 I was a spick-and-span Christian Pathfinders... all that, 00:20:47.68\00:20:51.31 through a series of events in my early teens 00:20:51.35\00:20:55.08 I left the church, along with my family and I 00:20:55.12\00:20:58.82 both... all three of us left the church 00:20:58.85\00:21:01.52 and I sought out rescue through Satanism 00:21:01.56\00:21:04.03 because I was a short, pudgy kid 00:21:04.06\00:21:07.10 that no girl wanted 00:21:07.13\00:21:08.86 so, in a mixture between anger and hurt, 00:21:08.90\00:21:12.10 I just sought out... I knew he existed... 00:21:12.13\00:21:15.27 I knew God existed, so I knew the devil existed, 00:21:15.30\00:21:17.27 but God wasn't giving me what I wanted so 00:21:17.31\00:21:19.51 I sought it out from elsewhere. 00:21:19.54\00:21:20.88 What did you want? 00:21:20.94\00:21:23.61 I wanted money, power and girls, I mean, I was just 00:21:23.65\00:21:27.02 I didn't want to be that short, pudgy kid 00:21:27.08\00:21:29.15 and then the transformation began, 00:21:29.22\00:21:31.52 I wanted revenge, I wanted... 00:21:31.55\00:21:33.32 I didn't want sex, I wanted to humiliate women, 00:21:33.36\00:21:37.13 I wanted to make them pay, you know, 00:21:37.19\00:21:39.39 make them cry, like, entice them and reel them in 00:21:39.43\00:21:42.33 and then, watch them cry 00:21:42.36\00:21:44.20 because I wasn't that committed guy 00:21:44.23\00:21:46.23 I was just using them, 00:21:46.30\00:21:47.64 it was more sadistic than anything else 00:21:47.67\00:21:50.54 and after that 00:21:50.57\00:21:52.27 in my 20s, I tried to be there 00:21:52.31\00:21:55.14 you know, tried to come back and be good 00:21:55.18\00:21:57.38 and do the right thing, I became a Police Officer too 00:21:57.41\00:22:00.62 and as a means to try to help 00:22:00.65\00:22:03.69 but the devil... I was still with him, you know, 00:22:03.72\00:22:06.32 there was just no clear mind 00:22:06.35\00:22:09.02 I tried to commit suicide with my gun 00:22:09.06\00:22:11.99 which obviously I'm here so it never fired. 00:22:12.06\00:22:14.83 We're thankful for that. 00:22:14.83\00:22:17.17 So, it was crazy but that baggage 00:22:17.23\00:22:21.04 and getting out was... I ended up in jail, 00:22:21.07\00:22:24.27 that's where I met God and then I got re-baptized 00:22:24.31\00:22:27.78 I started going back to church 00:22:27.81\00:22:29.48 after that I told God I'd give Him one more try 00:22:29.51\00:22:33.01 and He revealed Himself in various ways 00:22:33.05\00:22:36.28 and I just established a relationship 00:22:36.32\00:22:38.69 the relationship that I didn't have 00:22:38.72\00:22:40.96 I established a relationship with Him 00:22:40.99\00:22:43.19 I didn't want to just go through the motions 00:22:43.22\00:22:46.09 I wanted to be a Christian for Him 00:22:46.13\00:22:48.10 not perfect, but I was going to do better 00:22:48.13\00:22:50.33 than I did when I was a kid 00:22:50.40\00:22:51.73 and that's where... I had watched pornography 00:22:51.77\00:22:55.40 during that time, even when I became a Christian 00:22:55.44\00:22:59.01 I was still addicted, that was a big show for me 00:22:59.04\00:23:02.64 it had a hold on me that was just... 00:23:02.68\00:23:04.58 I gave up alcohol, I gave up smoking, 00:23:04.61\00:23:06.61 but pornography just had a hold on me 00:23:06.65\00:23:08.58 that would just not let go, and I went through marriage 00:23:08.62\00:23:12.99 and divorce and it was just bad 00:23:13.02\00:23:15.72 I was so broken, I have a little girl, 00:23:15.79\00:23:20.33 she's three years old, I love her to death, 00:23:20.40\00:23:22.76 and God just asked me, 00:23:22.80\00:23:25.63 "Would you allow her to marry somebody like you?" 00:23:25.67\00:23:28.24 and I said, "No God, help me" 00:23:28.27\00:23:30.47 and through a series of events He helped me 00:23:30.51\00:23:33.74 he continued to help me, I went to counseling, 00:23:33.78\00:23:37.01 I did everything... every tool that God provided 00:23:37.05\00:23:40.18 I reached and used to be better 00:23:40.22\00:23:43.35 be different, and really get in tune with God 00:23:43.75\00:23:48.26 and... not to be perfect but 00:23:48.29\00:23:50.03 to do better than what I was doing 00:23:50.09\00:23:51.86 and that's when God just really said, 00:23:51.93\00:23:53.66 "You know, I'm going to keep helping you to grow" 00:23:53.70\00:23:56.46 and I'm totally different now than what I was before. 00:23:56.53\00:23:59.30 Praise the Lord and look at you, 00:23:59.33\00:24:02.00 I mean, even the way you're sitting 00:24:02.04\00:24:04.57 it's so precious, I mean... you can tell... 00:24:04.61\00:24:07.74 sometimes you go to a restaurant 00:24:07.78\00:24:09.11 and you can tell, 00:24:09.14\00:24:10.48 who's been married for a long time 00:24:10.55\00:24:11.88 and who's dating or something, because the daters... 00:24:11.91\00:24:13.95 they're all looking into each other's eyes and all that, 00:24:14.02\00:24:16.45 or if you look into a car you can see... 00:24:16.48\00:24:20.16 like... if the people are sitting at opposite ends, 00:24:20.19\00:24:22.92 they've probably been married for years, 00:24:22.96\00:24:24.33 and if not... if they're really into each other 00:24:24.36\00:24:26.90 they're sitting closely, and you guys, 00:24:27.00\00:24:28.90 you have such great stories, you have testimonies 00:24:28.93\00:24:34.97 rich testimonies that show the powerful, 00:24:35.00\00:24:39.44 amazing transforming ability of our God 00:24:39.47\00:24:43.91 and everybody has a testimony, everybody has a story, 00:24:43.95\00:24:48.08 because our God has shown Himself strong, 00:24:48.12\00:24:50.45 for all of us, 00:24:50.49\00:24:51.82 and so, I'm just so grateful for what you have done 00:24:51.85\00:24:56.99 for what God has done through you, 00:24:57.03\00:24:59.56 tell us what you're doing now, what are you doing? 00:24:59.59\00:25:03.23 Right now, I started learning more about family life ministry, 00:25:03.30\00:25:09.40 and that is my passion... Family Life Ministry 00:25:09.47\00:25:12.07 because I realize so much about how things happened to me 00:25:12.11\00:25:15.84 because of family, and how it really affects 00:25:15.88\00:25:18.45 your growth and development and being part of Pure Choices 00:25:18.48\00:25:21.55 I love this ministry, because God revealed to me 00:25:21.58\00:25:24.75 when I started Andrews, 00:25:24.79\00:25:26.15 that He wanted to use my addiction, my recovery, 00:25:26.22\00:25:30.73 as a testimony to help others who are struggling with it 00:25:30.76\00:25:34.56 so I am doing that, but in my other community 00:25:34.60\00:25:37.33 where it is a fill of Christian women 00:25:37.37\00:25:39.30 who are struggling with addiction. 00:25:39.33\00:25:41.20 That's tremendous and we thank you so much 00:25:41.24\00:25:45.11 for all that you're doing, 00:25:45.14\00:25:46.68 what about you, Xavier? 00:25:46.74\00:25:48.18 I'm working with the Youth, the Youth Leader, 00:25:48.21\00:25:50.51 I'm also the Outreach Leader, I'm in charge of Outreach so 00:25:50.55\00:25:53.48 doing a lot with the Community, 00:25:53.52\00:25:54.85 Police Chaplaincy, doing my Ph. D. in Psychology, 00:25:54.88\00:25:57.79 and working with a lot of areas of 3ABN. 00:25:57.82\00:26:01.89 And that's a blessing you know God has a way 00:26:01.92\00:26:05.89 of just sending who we need 00:26:05.93\00:26:08.63 and He has sent you to us 00:26:08.66\00:26:11.33 and we love you and we're so grateful 00:26:11.37\00:26:14.17 that you are a part of our Pure Choices Family 00:26:14.24\00:26:17.21 and we expect that you will be doing a lot more 00:26:17.24\00:26:20.18 in the future, 00:26:20.21\00:26:22.01 and thank you so much for watching this Segment 00:26:22.08\00:26:26.61 we know that someone is going to be blessed 00:26:26.65\00:26:31.19 as a result of watching this interview 00:26:31.22\00:26:34.29 whatever you're struggling with 00:26:34.32\00:26:36.09 know that God has the answer for you 00:26:36.12\00:26:39.36 there is hope, there is deliverance 00:26:39.39\00:26:42.56 and healing in our God. 00:26:42.60\00:26:49.40 Wow! powerful stories, 00:26:49.44\00:26:52.67 well join us next time and remember 00:26:52.71\00:26:54.74 it just wouldn't be the same without you. 00:26:54.78\00:26:56.91