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and the mother who
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Hello, and
welcome to Urban Report.
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My guests today are
Don and Barbara Hales.
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Don is the team leader
of Tanglewood Ministries
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and his mother
Barbara is the coordinator
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at Tanglewood Ministries.
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Welcome to Urban
Report, Don and Barbara.
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Thank you for having us.
Thank you, good to be here.
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It's pleasure to
have you. Just to--
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I want our viewers to know
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a little bit
about your background.
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I want to go into it
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because you have a
powerful testimony.
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And we want to touch on that
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as well as find
out about the ministry.
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We want to find out
about Tanglewood Ministries.
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So Ms. Barbara, how
back in, was it 1994?
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Was that was that the year?
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He had the accident?
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Yes. That you had the accident?
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Okay.
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What transpired on that day?
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How did you find
out about the accident?
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Okay, Don was a
senior at Andrews University
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with one semester
left and it was this summer
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and very beautiful day.
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I was out cutting grass,
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when my husband came to the door
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and called and
said that there had been
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an accident at Andrews Air Park.
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And we needed to go immediately.
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Wow!
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And so what was
running through your mind?
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I know, you had
multiple thoughts.
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Well, when he said an accident
obviously it meant aircraft.
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I have the unique distinction
of having both a husband
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who flies and three sons to fly.
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So it was perhaps, in
the background of my mind
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that it's not unusual
that perhaps one of them,
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at some point
would have an accident.
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Yes.
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And so when we heard that
there had been an accident,
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I put the lawn mower
up, hopped in the car
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and raced as fast
as we could to Andrew's
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about a half an hour away.
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Okay, okay.
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And what was
going on that day, Don.
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What happened?
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How did that
accident come about?
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Well, earlier that morning,
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a friend of mine
who owned the aircraft
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which is called an
Ultra light, headed out.
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And another friend
was actually flying it.
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And my father had
been up that morning.
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He worked for the
Federal Aviation Administration
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and he was doing surveillance
that morning on the airport.
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And so we were all
looking at this machine
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after the pilot
who was flying it,
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came back and landed.
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And my dad just
basically told me,
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"Don, don't fly this thing."
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You know, don't fly it. Wow!
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So your dad warned
you about flying it.
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He had warned me. Yes.
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What is an Ultra
light? What is that?
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An Ultra light is a kit built
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or home built
aircraft, recreational use.
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One passenger which is a
pilot and is flown on nice days.
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And a open cockpit.
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Some people in the past have
called them flying lawn chairs.
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Oh, wow!
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Just like my wheel chair,
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with some wings on it
and an engine in the back to,
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you know, to push it forward.
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That's a scary. But
it sounds comfortable.
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Yeah. Yeah.
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And I thought that
that'd be fun to fly.
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And so when my father
told me not to fly it.
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I said, "Okay, I won't."
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But inside, I was like,
"I'm going fly this thing."
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That makes you want
to fly it that much more.
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Well, yeah, yeah.
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And you know, I
was 22 at the time
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and I say now young and dumb.
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But more yet, to
the heart of the matter,
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rebellious on
the inside, you know.
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You know, outwardly,
you know, toeing the line.
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You know, doing my
part but inwardly, you know,
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I'm going to do things my way.
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And with that in disobedience,
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of course, is a
dangerous combination.
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Absolutely.
Get's you in trouble.
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Absolutely. That's
what happened that day.
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How high were you when you crash
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and what led to the crash?
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Okay, I was told,
I was about 75 feet.
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And this was
right after takeoff.
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The Ultralight could
be flown as a hang glider.
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So it has, what is
called a push pull bar
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which is attached to the wings,
so when you push the bar out,
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it tips the wing
back and you go up.
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If you pull the bar towards you,
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it pulls the wing
down and you go down.
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And the way that it is set up
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is the cart is on a
harness, I mean, on a pendulum.
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So that no matter if
you're going up or down,
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you're still in
a level position.
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So when I came down,
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I landed in a
seated position like this.
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So my spinal cord
absorbed all of that energy.
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And it blew out my
thoracic eleventh vertebrae.
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Wow! Yeah.
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That's truly a
blessing that you are alive.
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I praise the Lord for it
'cause I should have been dead.
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Yes, yes, yes.
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Now Ms. Barbara,
it's also my understanding
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that there were some people
that rallied behind you guys
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during this time
and provided something
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that was very special
and very useful to you.
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Yes, yes, as time
went on he went to rehab.
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And then it was an
issue, can he get back to life.
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And a group of pilots
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from the South
Bend- Mishawaka area
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which was the general area
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in which we lived,
one of the gentlemen,
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in particular,
came up with an idea.
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He said he was
trying to sleep one night.
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He was thinking of Don.
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He was a friend of my husband
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and from his dream or
idea, birthed a project.
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And that project was
to raise enough money
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to give Don a brand new
handicapped accessible van.
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Wow! What a blessing?
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What a blessing?
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And as a result,
the word went out
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to the Pilot community
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and over a period of
about two to three months,
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they raised
somewhere around $ 45,000.
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And then in
September of that year,
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they presented Don
with a brand new van.
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That's huge, I know
you were happy about that.
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I'm still
amazed today. Yes, yes.
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It's wow.
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That is a
blessing, in fact, the people
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that don't know you
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still rallied
behind and supported you.
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And really want to
take part in that project.
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Okay, such a
powerful story and testimony.
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How did
Tanglewood Ministries begin?
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Well, after that
time, that I got the van
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and I had moved to
Cincinnati to start work
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and I was working at an airport
on the east side of town.
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And worked there for
about seven and a half years.
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I was able to get
married and buy my own home
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and in all of
that, so I was living.
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But my health started to go down
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and so around about 2005
my health really, really,
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you know, started to go down.
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My marriage was
coming apart at that time
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and I had to also
resigned from work
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because of health reasons.
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So that was a real
low period in my life,
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all the way through 2007.
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And in 2007, I was in despair
and actually wanted to die.
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But I just thank the
Lord that he had other plans.
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And at that time I went
through a leg amputation.
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And also my father was killed
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in a car pedestrian
accident in front of our home.
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And so it was in,
let's see, in 2008
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that I was in a hospital
for a second leg amputation.
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And I'll let mom
take over the story here
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because she did a
visitation that day.
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Don was just about
ready to get out the hospital
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with the second leg amputation.
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And the elderly
friend of ours went into
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and assisted living
private pay facility.
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And I decided to go visit
her, to see how she was doing.
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And as I was
leaving she had said,
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you know, I like the facility.
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It's is a beautiful place.
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People are very
nice but the one thing
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I don't like is, I don't
get to go to church anymore.
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And so, you know, I
can't get out or anything.
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And I heard myself
saying to her, "Well!
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You know that's
something I could do.
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I would be happy to
start a church service here.
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I've been involved in ShareHim
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and preached in
three or four countries.
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You know, I can do that.
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And so I spoke with
the activities' leader
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and she said,
"You'd come every week
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and do a church service?"
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And I said,
"Sure, I'd be happy to."
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And when can we do it
and after much talking,
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it became apparent
that the best time for them
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was Sunday evening,
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when I normally would
be watching 60 Minutes.
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Wow!
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Way just like, you
know, my day is gone.
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So I said, "Yeah I'll do it.
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So we started after
supper on Sunday evening.
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And so we've been
doing a weekly service
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ever since during that hour.
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Wow! okay.
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Now, number one,
you're a very strong woman.
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How did you feel, I
mean, to have your son
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going through this at the
time, losing your husband?
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How did you?
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How did you make it
through that tough time?
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And what helped? It's
only the Lord obviously.
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I mean, you're going
through so many emotions,
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basically you're
trying to figure out
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what your finances are going be?
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Because now your
income is going to be cut.
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Because your primary source
of income is no longer there.
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And then, of course,
he was living with us
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about that time which meant
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that basically I
was the caregiver.
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And you know,
it's like, you know,
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"Lord, there's so much going on
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and I need something different."
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And I saw getting
out and getting back
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involved in
ministry is something he did.
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I could do. That
would be good for me.
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Okay. Okay.
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And, Don, how are
you feeling at the time
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of with this ministry beginning?
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And how did you feel
about taking part in that?
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Well, I was happy to help.
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But my attitude was
that this was her ministry.
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I never had any aspirations of,
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you know, working
with elderly seniors.
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You know, I had thought that,
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you know, I
wouldn't mind working with,
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you know, grown
adults but I never saw
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my calling into senior ministry.
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But I thank the Lord for it.
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It's one of the best things
that's ever happened to me.
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Yes, that's a blessing as well.
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What challenges?
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What are some of
the challenges that.
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TWM has faced
spiritually or otherwise?
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Well, for us, when
we came into ministry,
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we came with the idea
that, you know, we've got a,
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you know, we'll
preached the doctrinal truth
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of the
Seventh-day Adventist Church.
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We really wanted
to emphasize that.
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We're also doing, you
know, all of the formalities
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of a church service.
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You know, we only have one hour.
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So you know, after
doing all those formalities,
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we end up with about 10
minutes left for the word.
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And the Lord intervened
in our lives personally
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and you know,
brought it to my attention
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that we really
needed to focus on...
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Lifting up
Jesus. Lifting up Jesus.
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And when we lift up
Jesus, he would do the drawing.
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And all of that
doctrines will fall in to place.
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All of the
doctrinal truths will fall,
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you know, right into place
as we walk through the Bible,
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you know, which we're doing now.
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Also, we have
trimmed down our service.
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Because we only
have a half hour.
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An hour.
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Oh! We've an hour.
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But actually in our
memory care services,
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we only have a half hour.
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So we don't have a lot of
time for all of the extras.
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So we focus on
singing the hymns.
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You know, the
elderly love the hymns.
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Also, prayer,
that's very important
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in getting into the word.
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Those are the three
basics and then we add,
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you know, special
music, the appeal song.
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But really tried to
focus those emphasis
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on the singing, praying.
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And the word. And the Bible.
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And that's what our
program is based around,
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you know, week after week.
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That's great.
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And I like, what you said about
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the doctrinal truth being in
and just focusing on the word.
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And I mean... The
truth come forward.
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And the truth
is in there. Right.
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You just have to find it.
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Yeah, 'cause we
actually got pushback from,
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you know, from the
folks who were coming.
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You know we
started to get pushbacks
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on some of those things
because they're coming from,
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you know,
different faiths backgrounds.
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And we found that it's
not they that need to change.
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We needed to change.
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And when that focus
changed for us personally
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and then
corporately as a ministry,
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the ministry
just started to grow.
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And we saw the Lord
just doing wonderful things.
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And still is today.
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The other thing that
also happened was that
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before when we first started,
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you know, we got this
service on Sunday night.
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And you know, okay,
we've got the service.
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But now we're spending...
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When we end our
service on Sunday,
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we begin to get ready
for next week service.
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And what that said to each of us
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we needed to make sure
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that we were
spending time in prayer
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and personal Bible study.
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And then literally I do
a lot of the special music
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but the question is I
can't just sing any song.
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What's a sermon
going to be about?
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And my song needs
to be an appeal-song
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that would capsulate
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what the speaker
was talking about.
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And that can be a
challenge. I believe.
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Because you can't
just come up with a song
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and put it with the sermon.
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And you have to ask God,
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"What song should I sing
at the end of that sermon
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that will say
what you wanted to say
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that to appeal to
those folks' heart?"
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And God comes
through, when I come through.
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When I do what I need to
do, He gives you the right song,
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that's just the song
that needed to have been
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sung after that sermon.
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And it's been awesome to
see the response of the people.
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That's beautiful.
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It's so amazing
what you guys are doing
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because I mean, when you
go to some of these facilities
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and you realize
there's some loved ones
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that are in there,
that have no visitors.
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They have nobody
that comes to visit them.
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So you guys are sharing
the gospel of Jesus Christ.
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And you're also
providing them with visitors.
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And showing them that
people still love them
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and they're not forgotten.
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And I think that is excellent.
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What are some of the miracles
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that you guys have witnessed
in some of these facilities?
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Probably the lady
who initially asked
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that we consider
coming, had moved from her home
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after being in it 40,
50 years, into a facility
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and came kicking and screaming.
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Her children said you're going.
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Only to discover
that a couple years later
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because of health or
finances, she had to move again
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and to hear her say, you know,
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I came here not wanting to come.
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But because of
your weekly service,
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I now have a
relationship with Jesus Christ.
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And wherever I
go it will be okay
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because I know I am
taking Jesus with me.
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That is just amazing.
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It touches your heart. Yes.
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It does. Yes.
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It does. Yes.
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What training do you'll have
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that prepared you for this work?
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The Lord.
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Being willing is... And open...
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Is the primary prerequisite.
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You know, the
background that we have,
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that we have brought,
you know, as you know, being,
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you know, members of the church,
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you know, having been a part
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of Seventh-day Adventist Church,
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obviously is helpful.
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But really a willing heart
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and a willingness
to get on your knees
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and pray Lord,
"teach me, show me."
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And because we
look back at, you know.
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Early services...
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When we first
started, it's like, "Wow!
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We did that."
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But the Lord has taken
our stumbles and He's blessed.
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And we're still
growing and learning.
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But being willing to be
used and to wear multiple hats
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because you know
we have a team of ten.
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But you know,
from week after week,
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you know, we have to adjust.
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You know,
sometimes we're speaking,
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sometimes we're not.
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We do have two main speakers
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but you know sometimes
they're not always there.
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So somebody else has to step up
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and speak or
sing or what have you.
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But being willing,
being willing, has been the,
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you know, the best thing for us.
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And you know, God has
led and he has provided.
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Very excited. Amen.
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And being able to realize
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that visitation
is a part of this.
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You know, we
originally committed
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for an hour on Sunday evening.
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But we're now taking a
day of week for visitation.
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We have people who
end up in hospitals
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or in other facilities.
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Last year we had
twenty people that died.
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Already this year we've
probably lost eight or ten.
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So we're attending funerals.
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Or at least the wakes
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and that even
open another ministry
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because now when someone dies,
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we make up a packet
that includes a good book
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which we're using A Great Hope,
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right now which is
the last three chapters--
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Last nine chapters
are Great Controversy,
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with the corresponding
postcard that Nathan Green did.
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And we put those in an envelope,
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put a message on it.
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And we make up one up
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for every
immediate family members.
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So if a wife died, the
husband and any children get it.
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If the mom dies then we
give it to the children and.
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Just last week,
we gave away nine.
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And of course, that,
they cost. We have no budget.
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But what happens is
that someone would press
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some money in our hands
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which enables us to continue
to make up those packets
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and we figure that the
packet costs about 350 each.
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And a decent nice
card from Hallmark
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would probably cost three fifty
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and which
they're going to pitch.
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But they're holding on
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to those Great Controversy books
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into the picture
of the Second Coming.
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Wow! So it's been a need.
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So we're
interacting with family members
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that we had no idea
we'd ever get a chance to.
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Wow! Impacting so many lives.
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We have some
pictures of you guys in action
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that I'd like for
our viewers to see.
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So as we put those on the screen
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why don't you
describe that for me, Don.
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This is Pauline Finn.
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And she was the inspiration
to start Tanglewood Ministries.
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Wow! Very important lady.
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And again this is us during,
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I think, that was
a Christmas service
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that we were doing.
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And this is one
of our team members,
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Bob Cassini and he
was speaking to Mrs. Finn.
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And I believe
they were talking about
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a Bible topic on
that particular shot.
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Oh, wow! Yes.
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And this is Eva.
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She is our lady who
does the health nugget.
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And she's demonstrating
some of the exercises
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that she wants some
of the people to do.
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And this is a view of the room
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in which we do
the worship service.
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And this is Charles.
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He's our main
speaker and doing a sermon
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on the
sacrificial offering the lamb
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that was brought
to the tabernacle.
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And this is McGill.
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And he's also
one of our speakers.
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And he's got a model
there of the sanctuary
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that God
instructed Moses to build.
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And so we did a whole
series on the sanctuary.
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And this is from Faith,
she's one of our musicians.
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Of course, mom here
doing one of the sermons.
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That's for music.
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Oh, I didn't know
that you can play guitar.
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Just a little
bit, just a little bit.
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But I do play. Yes.
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And this is our
end of the year program
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we call it the Agape feast.
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And it's just a
really nice service
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that we do each year.
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The tables are lined
up in the form of a cross
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and we have the lights dimmed.
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And there're
some candles up there.
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And nice, some food,
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you know, some finger
foods and things like that.
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It's just a really nice
service to end out each year.
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And then this is our team.
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We've got Clinton,
and in front, Faith,
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and McGill and his wife Titta.
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And Bob and Eva Kasznia,
and Rebecca and Charles Pates.
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Yeah. So that's our team.
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Wow! Yeah.
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Wow! Wow! Yeah.
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Well.
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How can someone who
wants to become involved
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with senior ministry,
how can they get involved?
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What do they need to do?
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Well, the easiest way
would be to hopefully know
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someone in the
facility that helps.
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But then speak with
the activities leader
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and arrange a time
that's convenient for everyone.
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Ideally, maybe you think
it needs to be on Sabbath.
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But Sabbath might not be a day
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you want to commit
to doing something.
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But work with the activity folk.
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And we're doing
two Thursday services
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and one Sunday
night, well, at this point.
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And how did you select
those days in particular?
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I know you still watch
60 Minutes on Sunday night?
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Sunday night was
because it worked
00:23:06.15\00:23:08.52
in with their schedule
00:23:08.55\00:23:09.88
and it worked in
with our schedule.
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And then Thursdays,
we have also expanded
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to a mailing list.
00:23:15.52\00:23:17.16
And we do about a little
over two hundred sermons that
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of which about 35 of
them we hand deliver.
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And the rest we mail.
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And two of the
individuals had left Tanglewood
00:23:27.54\00:23:31.17
and went someplace else
and we were just dropping off
00:23:31.21\00:23:33.88
hand their sermon
outlines each week.
00:23:33.94\00:23:37.01
But the activity
leader had been a Tanglewood,
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and this is not and
that a new facility.
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And she asked,
"Would you consider
00:23:42.18\00:23:43.89
doing a service here?"
00:23:43.95\00:23:45.65
And since we were going
there every weekend anyway,
00:23:45.69\00:23:47.89
we decided, "Yes we
could stay half an hour."
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And this is memory care,
so their memories are short.
00:23:50.93\00:23:54.00
Yes.
00:23:54.03\00:23:55.36
But they love
the sing the hymns.
00:23:55.40\00:23:56.90
And so basically we
do abbreviated service.
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We sing most of the time.
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I do about a five minute
talk that includes scripture.
00:24:01.94\00:24:07.61
And so we read, try
to read familiar passages
00:24:07.64\00:24:10.88
that some of them still know,
like the Twenty third Psalms.
00:24:10.95\00:24:13.82
Or John 14:1-3.
00:24:13.85\00:24:17.42
And others that
are fairly familiar.
00:24:17.49\00:24:20.16
And they literally wake up,
00:24:20.19\00:24:22.09
sometimes
they're totally out there
00:24:22.12\00:24:23.83
but when we get there,
starting singing the hymns.
00:24:23.86\00:24:26.80
They wake up.
00:24:26.83\00:24:28.13
They sing with
this us in harmony
00:24:28.16\00:24:30.53
and in tune for half an hour.
00:24:30.57\00:24:33.30
Yes, it is.
00:24:33.34\00:24:34.67
And to see that
happen week after week,
00:24:34.70\00:24:37.27
is just amazing.
00:24:37.31\00:24:38.97
Well, we want to tell people
00:24:39.01\00:24:40.74
how to get in touch with
you and how to reach you.
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You can contact.
00:24:43.85\00:24:45.21
Tanglewood Ministries
by sending them a mail
00:24:45.25\00:24:48.02
at South Bend First
Seventh-Day Adventist Church,
00:24:48.05\00:24:51.79
1936 East Altgeld street,
South Bend, Indiana 46614.
00:24:51.82\00:24:59.59
Or via phone at (574)654-7320.
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And they also have a
website, sbadventist.org.
00:25:05.73\00:25:12.44
Well, it is such a wonderful
ministry that you all have.
00:25:12.47\00:25:19.31
Okay.
00:25:19.35\00:25:20.72
I want to know how it co-relates
00:25:20.75\00:25:22.25
with the Adventist
Church, like with the mission
00:25:22.28\00:25:24.55
of South Bend Adventist Church.
00:25:24.59\00:25:27.26
How does it, how
does it work with that?
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Well we're a supporting ministry
00:25:31.06\00:25:32.76
but we work
closely with the church.
00:25:32.79\00:25:35.33
And they have
been very supportive
00:25:35.36\00:25:37.23
of what we're doing and
even provided Bibles for us
00:25:37.27\00:25:40.94
because we needed super
large print, giant print Bibles
00:25:40.97\00:25:44.57
and we were able
to get those, and...
00:25:44.61\00:25:46.64
But they've been very helpful,
supportive and encouraging.
00:25:46.68\00:25:51.15
And that's been...
00:25:51.18\00:25:52.65
you know, just a
great relationship.
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Yeah.
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And I was just gonna add
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that all of the
team members are members
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of our First church as well.
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Oh! wow, so you'll the
church who is involved in.
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What is it like
with the short time
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that we have left,
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what is it like
having your son in ministry?
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My mother and I work
together. My mom's Yvonne Lewis.
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Yes. And so
we're both in ministry.
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And ...but what is it like
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from a mother's
perspective working hand in hand
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with your son serving the Lord?
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It's been exciting. He's
a good compliment for me.
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We generally get
along quite well.
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And we've discovered
that we harmonize quite nicely
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in singing as
well in music aspect.
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And often times
think somewhat alike so.
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He's been a wonderful
asset and the technical things,
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particularly, sound
systems and that, kind of thing,
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I don't have to worry
about the computer and all that.
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And what's it like
working with your mom?
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It's been a good partnership.
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To follow her lead but
yet also make suggestions,
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maybe we should
do things this way.
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But the Lord has
blessed and you know,
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He's the focus and
He's the attention.
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And when you
co-laboring with Christ
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and with family it's
just, has been real exciting.
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Yeah. Amen.
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It's amazing to see
God work especially,
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when you choose to
follow him and you pray.
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And you nailed it on the head
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when he said that willingness
and prayer is the key.
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I want to thank both
of you all for being here.
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Thank you so
much for joining us.
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Thank you for having us.
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And I want to thank
you all for watching.
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I hope you have been
as blessed as I have,
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by this inspirational testimony.
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Well, we've reached
the end of our program.
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Join us next time and remember
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it just wouldn't be
the same without you.
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