Who says that a person can't change? 00:00:01.33\00:00:02.93 Stay tuned to meet a man who has changed 00:00:02.96\00:00:05.20 and helps others to do so as well. 00:00:05.23\00:00:07.70 My name is Yvonne Lewis 00:00:07.74\00:00:09.24 and you're watching Urban Report. 00:00:09.27\00:00:11.17 Hello and welcome to Urban Report. 00:00:33.70\00:00:36.13 My guest today is William Gailliard 00:00:36.16\00:00:38.33 Author of "Simply Thinking Big Every Day in Every Way" 00:00:38.37\00:00:42.37 and Motivational Speaker. 00:00:42.40\00:00:44.44 Welcome to Urban Report Bill. 00:00:44.47\00:00:46.64 Well, I'm glad to be here thank you very much. 00:00:46.71\00:00:48.74 So, you have a really interesting story 00:00:48.78\00:00:52.78 and I think our Viewers just need to know your journey. 00:00:52.81\00:00:56.52 Before we get into the book or anything like that 00:00:56.55\00:00:58.95 let's talk about Bill Gailliard, 00:00:58.99\00:01:01.39 who is Bill Gailliard, where did you from? 00:01:01.46\00:01:03.83 Charleston, South Carolina. 00:01:03.86\00:01:05.26 Okay, and tell us about your family. 00:01:05.29\00:01:07.50 My father was a pastor 00:01:07.60\00:01:10.23 in the African-Methodist Episcopalian church 00:01:10.27\00:01:12.37 for over 40 years and I'm the 9th of 10 children. 00:01:12.43\00:01:16.24 So you had nine siblings. 00:01:16.27\00:01:19.27 That's right. 00:01:19.31\00:01:20.64 Ten children... well, I'll bet 00:01:20.68\00:01:22.28 holidays were fun at your house, right? 00:01:22.31\00:01:23.85 Absolutely, absolutely, absolutely... 00:01:23.91\00:01:25.38 I was number nine 00:01:25.41\00:01:26.78 and they were hoping that I would be the last. 00:01:26.82\00:01:28.92 And then there was one after you, right? 00:01:28.95\00:01:31.32 And they were glad he came along. 00:01:31.39\00:01:33.09 Laughter... 00:01:33.12\00:01:35.09 So, what kind of a child were you, Bill? 00:01:35.12\00:01:37.83 Well, first of all I want to begin by saying 00:01:37.86\00:01:40.56 I was the middle child even though I was number nine 00:01:40.60\00:01:43.40 I was in between number eight and number ten 00:01:43.43\00:01:46.50 so that made me a middle child. Okay... 00:01:46.53\00:01:49.04 And of course the number 8th child 00:01:49.07\00:01:52.11 seemed to have gotten all the good gifts 00:01:52.14\00:01:55.58 I mean, my brother... two years older than myself, 00:01:55.61\00:02:01.45 could fix anything, 00:02:01.48\00:02:03.28 he was well-read, 00:02:03.32\00:02:05.05 and he was a straight "A" student 00:02:05.09\00:02:06.96 Ah... 00:02:06.99\00:02:08.89 and then I was caught in between him and the baby. 00:02:08.92\00:02:12.16 Ah... with all that that implies right... 00:02:12.19\00:02:16.13 With all that that implies... that's right. 00:02:16.20\00:02:20.00 And, of course, it seems as though 00:02:20.04\00:02:22.04 everything that broke around the house 00:02:22.07\00:02:24.07 had my name attached to it. 00:02:24.11\00:02:25.87 Ah... 00:02:25.91\00:02:27.24 so were you the child that kind of... 00:02:27.28\00:02:29.04 didn't feel like he could get it right? 00:02:29.08\00:02:31.01 Just couldn't ever get it right, that's right. 00:02:31.05\00:02:33.88 That was from early on. 00:02:33.92\00:02:36.95 Okay, so how did that impact you growing up? 00:02:36.99\00:02:40.62 Well, it caused me to really want to get it together... 00:02:40.66\00:02:47.20 go the extra mile, I had to fight for everything 00:02:47.23\00:02:50.73 and I was never right 00:02:50.80\00:02:52.37 and I use that quite a bit today 00:02:52.43\00:02:55.70 when people say, "You always want to be right" 00:02:55.74\00:02:58.37 I say, "No... I'm used to being wrong" 00:02:58.41\00:03:00.28 and so during those early years, it was really rough on me 00:03:00.31\00:03:08.38 I just... just could not ever seem to get it right. 00:03:08.45\00:03:12.22 How were your grades? 00:03:12.25\00:03:13.76 Well, that was the good part the Lord did bless me 00:03:13.79\00:03:19.16 to be able to do well in school 00:03:19.19\00:03:21.20 and I only remembered one time when I struggled with Algebra 00:03:21.26\00:03:26.63 and my brother two years older than myself 00:03:26.70\00:03:30.87 helped me quite a bit 00:03:30.91\00:03:32.91 when I flunked my first Algebra test 00:03:32.94\00:03:35.98 and just didn't think that I needed to study 00:03:36.01\00:03:40.28 because I was pretty good in Math 00:03:40.32\00:03:42.35 and, of course, when I flunked that test 00:03:42.38\00:03:45.89 I said, "What happened?" and then he took me... 00:03:45.92\00:03:48.29 sat me down and taught me Algebra 00:03:48.32\00:03:51.03 up until late that night and from that point on 00:03:51.09\00:03:54.30 we were the best of friends. 00:03:54.36\00:03:56.06 Now, before then, we were not. 00:03:56.10\00:03:57.63 Really? That's right. 00:03:57.67\00:03:59.00 So it took this failure, so to speak, 00:03:59.03\00:04:04.11 in Algebra... Right... 00:04:04.14\00:04:05.47 to kind of bring you and your brother together. 00:04:05.51\00:04:07.51 Absolutely, I mean, he was always loving me 00:04:07.58\00:04:10.65 but because everything was going his way 00:04:10.68\00:04:13.75 and there was the sibling rivalry 00:04:13.82\00:04:18.59 and I was the underdog all the time 00:04:18.62\00:04:22.99 and so I was always fighting for my place 00:04:23.02\00:04:26.80 but from that point on I admired him. 00:04:26.83\00:04:30.47 That's awesome. 00:04:30.53\00:04:32.40 And that turned things around. 00:04:32.43\00:04:33.80 Yes... yes... yes... so, as a child then 00:04:33.84\00:04:37.21 you had certain challenges to overcome 00:04:37.27\00:04:40.74 being the "middle child" at the end of the line, 00:04:40.78\00:04:43.61 so to speak, That's right. 00:04:43.65\00:04:44.98 so you had those challenges to overcome 00:04:45.01\00:04:47.22 there were some other things 00:04:47.28\00:04:48.62 that happened to you though 00:04:48.68\00:04:50.05 because I read in the book that you got into a habit 00:04:50.09\00:04:53.86 of doing what? 00:04:53.92\00:04:55.26 Of stealing... that's right... 00:04:55.29\00:04:56.99 ever since I knew myself, I would steal 00:04:57.03\00:05:00.43 without a blink of an eye I would steal. 00:05:00.53\00:05:03.80 Now, how did it start? 00:05:03.87\00:05:05.53 Well, it was just around the house 00:05:05.57\00:05:07.87 just one thing after another 00:05:07.90\00:05:10.31 I just developed this habit of taking that which was not mine 00:05:10.34\00:05:14.71 and there were many stories that I could... 00:05:14.74\00:05:18.08 there are many stories that I could give 00:05:18.11\00:05:21.35 but one that I remember... is... my sister was 18-years-old then 00:05:21.38\00:05:26.45 my Sis would always send us money through the mail 00:05:26.49\00:05:30.53 and I knew the money was coming 00:05:30.56\00:05:31.89 and I would look for the mail to come 00:05:31.93\00:05:34.10 and I would always go and take the money out 00:05:34.10\00:05:36.63 before it got there. 00:05:36.73\00:05:38.07 Oh, she would get cash... 00:05:38.10\00:05:39.43 Cash... those were the days when they would send cash 00:05:39.47\00:05:41.54 through the mail and I would take the money out 00:05:41.57\00:05:44.31 that was very bad, but that was one of the habits. 00:05:44.37\00:05:46.88 Now, during those days, 00:05:46.94\00:05:48.58 there were also Pay-Telephone Booths 00:05:48.61\00:05:52.88 and this is one of the whippings that I can still remember, right 00:05:52.91\00:05:58.69 because I was going to the telephone booth 00:05:58.72\00:06:02.16 taking the money out of the telephone booth 00:06:02.22\00:06:05.79 and my brother, two years older than me, 00:06:05.83\00:06:09.33 told on me and that was one of the 00:06:09.36\00:06:11.77 whippings that I can still remember... today... 00:06:11.80\00:06:13.74 And that was before you guys got close, right? 00:06:13.77\00:06:15.97 That was way before that 00:06:16.00\00:06:17.34 but he was always telling though 00:06:17.41\00:06:20.21 he was always telling on me 00:06:20.28\00:06:21.61 and it was all about trying to help me stay out of trouble. 00:06:21.64\00:06:24.58 Hmmm... What I discovered later 00:06:24.61\00:06:27.22 is that he really loved me Hmmm... 00:06:27.25\00:06:29.88 but I didn't see it as "love" in those days 00:06:29.92\00:06:31.99 he was always tattle-taleing. Yes... yes... yes... 00:06:32.02\00:06:35.26 So, how long did this stealing phase of your life last? 00:06:35.29\00:06:40.63 Oh, it lasted until I was at least 00:06:40.70\00:06:44.63 in Seventh Grade because I don't remember 00:06:44.67\00:06:46.80 having a problem with it after 00:06:46.84\00:06:49.14 Seventh Grade. 00:06:49.17\00:06:50.57 What stopped you? 00:06:50.61\00:06:51.94 Well, there were many things that happened 00:06:51.97\00:06:54.38 to bring me to the point of making an intelligent decision 00:06:54.41\00:06:58.98 that it wasn't worth it, that's what really happened 00:06:59.01\00:07:02.88 I came to the point where I realized 00:07:02.92\00:07:04.55 it just wasn't worth it 00:07:04.62\00:07:07.76 and so one of the things that happened 00:07:07.79\00:07:10.46 is that in Sixth Grade, my Sixth-Grade Teacher 00:07:10.49\00:07:15.90 had the class that they called, "The Good Class" 00:07:15.93\00:07:21.40 and so I was in "The Good Class" 00:07:21.44\00:07:23.44 What was it, the Honors Class? 00:07:23.51\00:07:25.41 The Honors Class... Hmmm... hmmm... 00:07:25.44\00:07:26.81 and so, I was in that class 00:07:26.88\00:07:28.21 and... but she knew that I had a habit of getting into fights 00:07:28.24\00:07:32.95 and so that was another problem I had as well 00:07:32.98\00:07:36.32 that's why... on the front of my book I said, 00:07:36.35\00:07:39.45 "Anyone can change" 00:07:39.49\00:07:40.86 because I had the habit of getting into fights 00:07:40.89\00:07:43.16 now I didn't pick the fights but I really liked a good fight. 00:07:43.19\00:07:46.80 You didn't start it but you finished it. 00:07:46.83\00:07:51.73 I really would... you know... 00:07:51.77\00:07:53.50 that's where my reputation came from. 00:07:53.54\00:07:55.74 Okay... I didn't back down from a fight 00:07:55.77\00:07:57.94 but anyhow, she really tried her best to reach me, 00:07:57.97\00:08:01.54 tried her best to reach me, 00:08:01.58\00:08:04.35 and I would help clean the class up. 00:08:04.38\00:08:06.95 Well, the kids didn't like to clean up 00:08:07.05\00:08:09.52 but I liked to clean up, 00:08:09.55\00:08:10.92 that's one of the things that I did learn 00:08:10.95\00:08:13.15 early on from my mom 00:08:13.19\00:08:14.69 because I was the only one of the boys 00:08:14.72\00:08:17.46 that woke up early every morning 00:08:17.49\00:08:20.13 when mom was up, cooking 00:08:20.16\00:08:22.43 and starting the fire 00:08:22.46\00:08:24.73 that's the kind of kid I was, I was around my mom 00:08:24.77\00:08:27.57 so... to some extent I was a "Mother's Boy" 00:08:27.64\00:08:30.41 Hmmm... hmmm.. 00:08:30.44\00:08:31.77 and so I learned to clean up very early 00:08:31.81\00:08:33.98 cleaning up at the school now, was no problem 00:08:34.01\00:08:37.05 because that was something that I did at home 00:08:37.08\00:08:40.75 and so that was one of the things that... 00:08:40.82\00:08:44.35 she embraced me with allowing me to be around her 00:08:44.39\00:08:48.76 that was one of the things that she did to embrace me 00:08:48.79\00:08:53.03 to see whether she could win me 00:08:53.06\00:08:54.83 and as a result I got very close to her 00:08:54.83\00:08:58.70 she got very close to me but she would never put my name 00:08:58.73\00:09:03.74 on the Honor Roll List because she wanted me to know 00:09:03.77\00:09:08.04 that she wasn't going to let me represent her class 00:09:08.08\00:09:12.28 until I made some changes. Hmmm... 00:09:12.31\00:09:15.05 And so... So your grades... 00:09:15.08\00:09:17.42 Grades were already... 00:09:17.45\00:09:19.05 Your grades were Honor Roll Level? 00:09:19.09\00:09:20.79 Yes... But she wouldn't put you 00:09:20.82\00:09:22.39 on the Honor Roll? 00:09:22.42\00:09:23.76 She would not put me on the Honor Roll 00:09:23.79\00:09:25.13 How did that make you feel? 00:09:25.16\00:09:26.56 Very bad... very bad... I didn't like it 00:09:26.59\00:09:28.80 and we never discussed it 00:09:28.83\00:09:30.37 it's just that, I can still remember 00:09:30.40\00:09:32.33 the first time when I knew I had made the Honor Roll 00:09:32.37\00:09:34.90 and I was waiting for my name to be called 00:09:34.94\00:09:36.94 and it wasn't called, 00:09:37.01\00:09:38.34 I said, "Whew"... I remember the feeling 00:09:38.37\00:09:41.28 Hmmm... hmmm... 00:09:41.31\00:09:43.35 well I wanted to say something but I didn't say anything 00:09:43.38\00:09:45.48 and I eventually figured out why she was doing it 00:09:45.51\00:09:48.62 and I just had to accept it. 00:09:48.65\00:09:51.02 Hmmm... wow... 00:09:51.05\00:09:53.02 But it got my attention. 00:09:53.05\00:09:54.39 Okay, so this is one of the ways that you stopped stealing. 00:09:54.42\00:09:57.63 Was this one of the things that made you stop stealing? 00:09:57.66\00:10:00.90 No, the thing that got me to stop stealing 00:10:00.93\00:10:03.37 was the fact that because I got close to her 00:10:03.43\00:10:05.87 and I would clean up the classrooms, 00:10:05.90\00:10:07.80 after school, 00:10:07.84\00:10:10.01 on this particular day her pocketbook was sitting 00:10:10.07\00:10:14.61 on the top of the desk and I saw it 00:10:14.64\00:10:19.41 and my mind said, 00:10:19.45\00:10:21.78 "Get that pocketbook" 00:10:21.82\00:10:24.09 that little voice... Hmmm... hmmm... 00:10:24.15\00:10:26.39 and it just didn't look like the right thing to do 00:10:26.42\00:10:29.99 so I left the classroom 00:10:30.03\00:10:35.53 and was walking from 100 to 200 yards 00:10:35.56\00:10:39.90 away from the school and she knew I had left 00:10:39.97\00:10:46.17 but it was like a spirit that comes over a person to do wrong 00:10:46.21\00:10:52.85 that spirit came over me again 00:10:52.88\00:10:55.68 and I turned around and I headed back 00:10:55.72\00:11:00.06 but she had gone to the Teachers' Lounge 00:11:00.09\00:11:04.23 but she knew she saw me 00:11:04.26\00:11:06.43 and so when I came back and she was not there 00:11:06.46\00:11:10.93 and I got the pocketbook 00:11:10.97\00:11:12.30 and interestingly enough when you do things like that 00:11:12.33\00:11:14.37 it's interestingly enough, 00:11:14.40\00:11:16.14 there was no money in the pocketbook 00:11:16.20\00:11:17.71 Hmmm... it wasn't worth it. 00:11:17.74\00:11:19.21 So I hid the pocketbook not far from our house 00:11:19.24\00:11:23.55 now, that was bad... 00:11:23.61\00:11:25.91 the boy on the next street 00:11:25.95\00:11:28.45 would end up finding the pocketbook 00:11:28.48\00:11:30.69 and taking it to school and then they told my dad 00:11:30.75\00:11:35.62 and in those days we sat around the table 00:11:35.66\00:11:40.96 to eat when dad came home 00:11:40.96\00:11:42.50 and we were at the table and just in the nick of time 00:11:42.53\00:11:47.50 when everyone had served their food, 00:11:47.57\00:11:50.54 my dad just... out of the clear blue said, 00:11:50.57\00:11:53.64 "Someone stole Mrs. Baker's pocketbook" 00:11:53.71\00:11:58.98 and with all the 00:11:59.01\00:12:02.08 acting ability that I had 00:12:02.15\00:12:04.29 I didn't change the expression on my face 00:12:04.32\00:12:06.69 I didn't skip a beat, 00:12:06.76\00:12:09.32 I didn't show any signs 00:12:09.39\00:12:12.73 that it was me 00:12:12.76\00:12:14.10 because that's what he was looking for 00:12:14.10\00:12:15.43 as a matter of fact the fork was in my hand 00:12:15.46\00:12:18.00 and it came up in this regular pace 00:12:18.03\00:12:20.74 and I just moved... just normally... 00:12:20.80\00:12:23.41 and since I passed that test, he went down to everyone else 00:12:23.47\00:12:27.54 and said that... 00:12:27.58\00:12:30.21 he asked each child 00:12:30.25\00:12:32.78 whether they had stolen the pocketbook 00:12:32.85\00:12:35.22 from the older to the next, to the next, 00:12:35.28\00:12:37.62 and then he skipped across me and went to the youngest brother 00:12:37.65\00:12:41.16 and everybody said that they didn't do it 00:12:41.19\00:12:43.69 well, the two older boys 00:12:43.73\00:12:45.19 weren't even at the school, they were in High School 00:12:45.23\00:12:47.13 and the younger boy was in a different building 00:12:47.20\00:12:50.63 the only person who was in Ms. Baker's class was me, 00:12:50.70\00:12:54.24 so he saved me for last... Hmmm... hmmm... 00:12:54.27\00:12:57.34 and he asked me, and just like I had been trained 00:12:57.37\00:13:02.01 for acting, I said, "No sir... " 00:13:02.04\00:13:04.31 so it was done so well 00:13:04.35\00:13:09.85 until everyone... 00:13:09.88\00:13:12.32 the kids by-the-way were afraid to death, 00:13:12.35\00:13:14.39 Hmmm... hmmmm... 00:13:14.42\00:13:15.76 because they knew that I was going to lose my life today 00:13:15.79\00:13:17.96 Your daddy didn't play. 00:13:17.99\00:13:20.93 this was going to be it, they were afraid for me 00:13:20.96\00:13:23.63 and so... but I passed that test 00:13:23.67\00:13:26.10 and he finally said, 00:13:26.13\00:13:29.74 "Willy, are you sure, 00:13:29.77\00:13:33.27 did you steal Mrs. Baker's pocketbook?" 00:13:33.34\00:13:37.61 I said, "No sir... " just as calm as could be 00:13:37.65\00:13:39.81 now... at that time, it seems as though 00:13:39.85\00:13:42.95 I heard the door open 00:13:42.98\00:13:44.62 and the sense that "death" was in the house. 00:13:44.69\00:13:48.69 Something bad was going to happen today 00:13:48.72\00:13:50.83 and when my dad 00:13:50.89\00:13:55.56 got up from the table, 00:13:55.60\00:13:57.67 and you could hear the chair 00:13:57.70\00:13:59.73 moving... wooh... wooh... like that... 00:13:59.77\00:14:01.30 he said, "I still think you stole the pocketbook" 00:14:01.34\00:14:07.71 he didn't know, but I had passed the test 00:14:07.74\00:14:11.68 and when that episode was over, 00:14:11.71\00:14:14.78 and as soon as "death" had gone back out the door 00:14:14.85\00:14:19.02 because he had entered in, 00:14:19.05\00:14:20.46 this was going to be someone was going to die 00:14:20.49\00:14:23.53 before the end of the day, oh my! 00:14:23.56\00:14:27.30 I had passed that test and when I walked out of there 00:14:27.30\00:14:30.73 I said, "It's not worth it" Hmmm... 00:14:30.77\00:14:33.64 with all the stress, with all the unrest, 00:14:33.70\00:14:37.91 sleepless night, 00:14:37.94\00:14:39.61 it just wasn't worth it... Hmmm... hmmm... 00:14:39.64\00:14:43.11 and so, that was one of the great 00:14:43.18\00:14:45.55 things to help me turn around 00:14:45.58\00:14:47.88 and as a child you say, "it's just not worth it" 00:14:47.92\00:14:51.89 so consequences of making poor decisions... 00:14:51.92\00:14:56.52 it's just not worth it. 00:14:56.56\00:14:58.23 And so that philosophy carried on with you 00:14:58.26\00:15:02.46 throughout your life. Yes... yes... 00:15:02.53\00:15:04.17 It's just not worth it... It's just not worth it... 00:15:04.20\00:15:07.14 that's right, and of course I had stolen one other thing, 00:15:07.17\00:15:10.41 from Mrs. Baker, 00:15:10.44\00:15:13.01 it was at the end of the school day 00:15:13.04\00:15:16.34 and there were six coconut cakes that were left over 00:15:16.38\00:15:21.25 from a King and Queen Contest, 00:15:21.28\00:15:22.65 you remember those days, the King and Queen Contest, 00:15:22.68\00:15:25.02 Hmmm... hmmm... and she said, 00:15:25.05\00:15:26.59 "Take these to the car" 00:15:26.62\00:15:27.96 and I took them from the classroom to the car 00:15:27.99\00:15:32.13 and that little voice said, "She's not going to miss one" 00:15:32.16\00:15:36.53 if I knew all that was going to come from that one cake, 00:15:36.56\00:15:40.50 I'm telling you, 00:15:40.54\00:15:41.87 how can a person get that upset over one cake? in my mind... 00:15:41.90\00:15:48.34 but she got upset over that one cake 00:15:48.38\00:15:51.05 she even asked me, did I see anyone 00:15:51.08\00:15:53.72 and I just blurted out the name of some bad guy 00:15:53.78\00:15:57.15 in the neighborhood and she went to the High School 00:15:57.19\00:16:00.62 and had him in the classroom the next morning, 00:16:00.69\00:16:03.66 and the kids in the classroom were afraid for me 00:16:03.69\00:16:06.63 because this was a bad guy, I just blurted his name out 00:16:06.66\00:16:09.93 and when that episode was over, I said again, 00:16:09.96\00:16:13.17 "It's just not worth it" and my daddy had already told me 00:16:13.20\00:16:19.27 that if I didn't stop stealing around the house 00:16:19.31\00:16:21.94 that I would eventually steal abroad, 00:16:21.98\00:16:25.51 Hmmm... hmmm... and he says, 00:16:25.55\00:16:27.32 "When you steal abroad, you're going to get caught 00:16:27.35\00:16:30.89 and when you get caught, 00:16:30.92\00:16:33.46 they're going to take you to the Reformatory School 00:16:33.49\00:16:36.62 and when they take you to the Reformatory School, 00:16:36.66\00:16:39.79 you're going to stay there 00:16:39.83\00:16:41.23 until you graduate from High School, 00:16:41.26\00:16:43.97 and I'm not going to visit you... 00:16:44.03\00:16:45.63 not even once... " Hmmm... 00:16:45.67\00:16:47.00 because he had told me over and over 00:16:47.04\00:16:48.74 "you need to stop stealing" 00:16:48.77\00:16:50.17 and so, again, when that second incident happened, 00:16:50.21\00:16:55.68 with Mrs. Baker, 00:16:55.71\00:16:57.85 I said again, "It's just not worth it. " 00:16:57.88\00:17:00.48 But then the third instant, 00:17:00.55\00:17:03.32 when I stole in a Grocery Store 00:17:03.35\00:17:05.95 big Grocery Store, and I was at the Counter 00:17:05.99\00:17:10.19 with money in my pocket, but I stole a bag of candy corn 00:17:10.26\00:17:15.43 and a hand gripped me like that, 00:17:15.46\00:17:18.20 Hmmm... my goose was cooked... 00:17:18.23\00:17:20.94 my heart was beating 00:17:20.97\00:17:23.14 and all of a sudden in the middle of the aisle, 00:17:23.17\00:17:27.38 someone just appeared and walked up and says, 00:17:27.41\00:17:31.08 "He's from a good family, I know the parents, 00:17:31.15\00:17:34.78 give him another chance" 00:17:34.82\00:17:36.89 and the man released my hand 00:17:36.92\00:17:40.56 and gave me some tough words 00:17:40.59\00:17:44.16 and told me not to every come back again, 00:17:44.23\00:17:46.13 and my heart was broken on that day. 00:17:46.16\00:17:49.96 I said... my heart was broken, my daddy's words had come true 00:17:50.03\00:17:56.10 the stealing that I had been doing 00:17:56.14\00:17:58.61 at home... had gone abroad. 00:17:58.67\00:18:02.24 Hmmm... I did get caught, 00:18:02.31\00:18:05.48 but I got grace, 00:18:05.51\00:18:07.55 and that's why I talk about grace so much now, 00:18:07.65\00:18:09.85 believing in God, Yes... 00:18:09.88\00:18:11.69 believing in grace. 00:18:11.72\00:18:13.05 Yes, yes, because grace has been activated in your life 00:18:13.09\00:18:17.06 and you're the recipient 00:18:17.16\00:18:18.53 of grace. That's right, that's right, 00:18:18.56\00:18:20.66 and I came out of that store that day 00:18:20.73\00:18:22.53 in tears, with a broken heart 00:18:22.60\00:18:26.07 and I began to say, "Please change me. " 00:18:26.10\00:18:29.60 Hmmm... Oh yeah... 00:18:29.67\00:18:31.11 the God that I had heard about 00:18:31.14\00:18:33.91 I began to talk to him like... he was there 00:18:33.98\00:18:37.55 I said, "please, please change me" 00:18:37.58\00:18:40.12 I mean... broken... I wanted to change 00:18:40.15\00:18:43.18 So how did God manifest Himself to you, 00:18:43.22\00:18:46.22 how did you begin that change, 00:18:46.25\00:18:49.66 I know, after this particular incident, 00:18:49.69\00:18:52.39 was there anything else that happened 00:18:52.43\00:18:55.06 that wherein... you said, 00:18:55.10\00:18:56.56 "Wow, I really have changed God really has changed me. " 00:18:56.63\00:18:59.70 Well, what happened is that when my heart was broken, 00:18:59.73\00:19:04.97 shedding tears, it felt like a load... 00:19:05.01\00:19:09.08 I don't know whether you've ever lifted Barbells 00:19:09.11\00:19:11.71 and when you pick up the weight 00:19:11.75\00:19:16.08 that's too heavy, and you need to let it down, 00:19:16.12\00:19:18.75 that's how I felt. 00:19:18.79\00:19:20.69 A load just seemed to have fallen off of me 00:19:20.72\00:19:25.03 and I felt better 00:19:25.09\00:19:27.40 and I just knew something had happened 00:19:27.46\00:19:30.17 I didn't understand what happened 00:19:30.20\00:19:32.60 but something had happened that day and I knew 00:19:32.63\00:19:36.94 that something had happened that's all I could say. 00:19:37.01\00:19:42.24 Right... Something had happened 00:19:42.28\00:19:43.65 as a matter of fact what happened when I was in 00:19:43.68\00:19:48.02 Fourth Grade, was the fact that 00:19:48.05\00:19:50.79 I had been such a terrible fellow 00:19:50.82\00:19:53.46 in Third Grade, 00:19:53.56\00:19:54.89 so that when I got to Fourth Grade 00:19:54.92\00:19:58.29 the teacher was braced and waiting for me. 00:19:58.33\00:20:00.30 Because your reputation preceded you. 00:20:00.33\00:20:03.03 My reputation preceded me and she was looking 00:20:03.10\00:20:05.67 for that kid that was raising so much sighing in Third Grade 00:20:05.70\00:20:09.77 until... she was ready for me on the first day 00:20:09.84\00:20:13.64 but that guy never showed up on the first day 00:20:13.68\00:20:16.08 Hmmm... nor the first week, 00:20:16.11\00:20:18.65 nor the first month, nor the first semester, 00:20:18.68\00:20:22.42 and on the last day of the school year, 00:20:22.45\00:20:24.85 she said, "Son, what happened?" 00:20:24.89\00:20:27.89 She wanted to know because she said, 00:20:27.92\00:20:30.19 "I was waiting for you from the first day" 00:20:30.23\00:20:32.39 and guess what I said, I said that I was born again. 00:20:32.43\00:20:37.13 Ah... That's the only term I knew 00:20:37.20\00:20:39.97 at that time to explain to her 00:20:40.00\00:20:42.70 what had happened to me. 00:20:42.77\00:20:44.14 And how old were you? 00:20:44.24\00:20:45.57 At that time, I was just nine. 00:20:45.61\00:20:47.54 Okay. But my dad had done... 00:20:47.58\00:20:49.48 really worked on my rear end. Hmmm... hmmm... Ha... ha... 00:20:49.51\00:20:54.05 Now that's what we call 00:20:54.15\00:20:55.88 "Putting the Board of Education on the seat of my intelligence" 00:20:55.95\00:20:58.65 you know what I'm saying, ha... ha... ha... 00:20:58.69\00:21:01.06 and when you put it in... in the proper place, 00:21:01.09\00:21:03.36 it goes right to the brain, 00:21:03.43\00:21:05.36 it re-trains the brain, 00:21:05.43\00:21:07.60 if you understand what I'm talking about... ha... ha... 00:21:07.66\00:21:09.26 I hear you... I hear you... 00:21:09.30\00:21:10.97 and so, I was born again, and dad says, 00:21:11.00\00:21:13.20 "Gailliards don't act that way" Hmmm... 00:21:13.23\00:21:15.60 and so, I had a great Fourth Grade. 00:21:15.64\00:21:17.97 Hmmm... Now things... you know 00:21:18.01\00:21:20.14 just like the sign curves go up... 00:21:20.18\00:21:22.18 and so Fifth and Sixth... went down 00:21:22.21\00:21:25.21 and then Seventh... got a little better 00:21:25.25\00:21:28.22 by the time I got to Eighth, I was making good decisions 00:21:28.25\00:21:32.35 and my mom was in the background 00:21:32.39\00:21:34.39 she was saying that, "boy, if you don't change, 00:21:34.42\00:21:38.39 your daddy is not going to let you drive that car 00:21:38.43\00:21:42.33 like the other brothers. " Hmmm... 00:21:42.36\00:21:43.93 And these days, 00:21:44.00\00:21:46.03 our family was one of the few families 00:21:46.07\00:21:48.17 that had a car in our neighborhood 00:21:48.20\00:21:50.04 folks were riding the City Bus 00:21:50.07\00:21:52.31 at that time... Hmmm... hmmm... 00:21:52.34\00:21:54.54 and so she kept telling me, 00:21:54.58\00:21:57.81 "You're not going to get that Driver's License 00:21:57.85\00:21:59.75 like Junior and like James" 00:21:59.81\00:22:01.55 and that also helped me to make good choices 00:22:01.58\00:22:05.32 because I knew that I wanted the Driver's license right on time 00:22:05.35\00:22:09.76 like everybody else and so 00:22:09.79\00:22:11.13 it started helping me to think right. 00:22:11.16\00:22:12.96 Hmmm... hmmm... hmmm... hmmm... so, when you became an adult 00:22:12.99\00:22:16.83 or just... in your pre... your post-adolescent years 00:22:16.87\00:22:22.84 just before adulthood... was there some pivotal event 00:22:22.87\00:22:28.08 that really changed your life? 00:22:28.11\00:22:29.84 Well, I'm thinking that what really brought about the changes 00:22:29.88\00:22:34.48 was when hand grabbed me... Hmmm... 00:22:34.52\00:22:37.35 and when my daddy's words 00:22:37.39\00:22:40.82 had come to 00:22:40.86\00:22:43.09 fruition or fulfillment 00:22:43.12\00:22:45.06 and I could hear his words saying, 00:22:45.13\00:22:49.43 "This is going to happen 00:22:49.46\00:22:51.60 and this is how I'm going to respond to it" 00:22:51.63\00:22:56.94 that helped me tremendously. 00:22:57.04\00:22:59.87 Now, by the time I became a teenager 00:22:59.91\00:23:03.08 I was an excellent church worker 00:23:03.11\00:23:05.41 now... I was in the African Methodist 00:23:05.45\00:23:14.09 Episcopalian church at this time 00:23:14.16\00:23:15.49 and he was the Pastor and I was a people's person, 00:23:15.52\00:23:18.79 I was a choir leader, 00:23:18.83\00:23:20.30 I was even a soul winner to some extent 00:23:20.33\00:23:24.13 because I would get the young kids to come to the church 00:23:24.17\00:23:28.87 he liked that and as a result he ended up giving me a car 00:23:28.90\00:23:33.64 at age 16, so these things had a lot to do 00:23:33.68\00:23:37.11 with me continuing to make right choices 00:23:37.15\00:23:40.48 because I saw that number one 00:23:40.58\00:23:43.15 I've got my permit on time at 14, 00:23:43.18\00:23:45.72 and my Driver's License on time at 16, 00:23:45.75\00:23:48.96 he allowed me to even take the School-Bus Driving Test 00:23:48.99\00:23:53.46 and I drove the school bus from 16... 00:23:53.50\00:23:56.60 from 10th, 11th and 12th grade, 00:23:56.63\00:23:58.83 this taught me that he was trusting me 00:23:58.90\00:24:04.01 to make right choices because you don't let a... 00:24:04.04\00:24:06.54 go ahead... No you finish your sentence. 00:24:06.57\00:24:08.51 You don't let a teenager drive a School Bus without showing him 00:24:08.54\00:24:16.62 that he can make responsible decisions 00:24:16.69\00:24:20.19 because every day you got under that steering wheel, 00:24:20.26\00:24:23.63 kids were doing all kinds of things on the school buses 00:24:23.66\00:24:27.03 and you had to make right choices everyday 00:24:27.10\00:24:29.43 And you're a teenager... I'm a teenager... 00:24:29.50\00:24:31.87 Wow! that's a lot of responsibility! 00:24:31.90\00:24:34.44 That was a big responsibility. 00:24:34.47\00:24:37.07 So, how did you come to write a book? 00:24:37.11\00:24:38.77 Let's talk about that... because our time... 00:24:38.81\00:24:40.74 I can't believe our time is running out 00:24:40.78\00:24:42.51 Yeah, I can't believe it either... 00:24:42.58\00:24:44.28 How did you come to write this book about thinking big? 00:24:44.31\00:24:47.28 Well, I had been going into the schools 00:24:47.32\00:24:50.35 taking the gospel into the school 00:24:50.39\00:24:52.39 and this is my little manual that I had been using 00:24:52.42\00:24:55.92 Yes... I had it all written out 00:24:55.96\00:24:57.99 what I had been doing for several years 00:24:58.03\00:24:59.96 and people were following me and a little voice said, 00:25:00.06\00:25:05.50 "If you don't write a book 00:25:05.53\00:25:07.27 someone is going to take your stuff 00:25:07.34\00:25:09.57 and they are going to write a book 00:25:09.60\00:25:11.64 and they are going to be 00:25:11.67\00:25:13.24 laughing all the way to the bank 00:25:13.27\00:25:15.04 and you're going to be crying" 00:25:15.08\00:25:16.85 that's how the book came about 00:25:16.88\00:25:19.08 because I had had this, been using it 00:25:19.15\00:25:22.28 and was not afraid to put my stuff that were unique 00:25:22.32\00:25:27.69 out there... just wasn't afraid... 00:25:27.72\00:25:30.43 And what kinds of ideas are you setting forth in the book 00:25:30.46\00:25:35.66 that are unique to you? 00:25:35.70\00:25:37.13 Play your ace... so when I go into a classroom 00:25:37.17\00:25:40.80 or to a school and I talk to kids 00:25:40.84\00:25:43.37 about improving their grades 00:25:43.41\00:25:45.24 I ask them, "How many of you are straight "A" students?" 00:25:45.27\00:25:48.11 and very few hands go up. 00:25:48.14\00:25:49.61 How many of you are A/B Honor Roll? 00:25:49.64\00:25:51.85 and a few more... 00:25:51.88\00:25:53.21 and... but for the most part 00:25:53.25\00:25:55.28 the kids are not on the Honor Roll 00:25:55.32\00:25:57.55 so I said, "How many of you 00:25:57.59\00:25:58.92 would like to make better grades?" 00:25:58.95\00:26:01.06 And all the hands go up, I said, "Very good. " 00:26:01.09\00:26:03.46 "Well, the first thing you need to do is 00:26:03.49\00:26:05.63 learn to play your ace... " 00:26:05.66\00:26:07.23 I said, "Now, if you learn to play your ace, 00:26:07.30\00:26:09.56 the grades will go up" 00:26:09.60\00:26:10.97 no two ways about it, 00:26:11.00\00:26:12.33 now what's the ace? Learn to pay attention. 00:26:12.37\00:26:14.67 I said, "You've got to learn to pay attention" 00:26:14.74\00:26:17.11 Hmmm... The "C" is for concentration 00:26:17.14\00:26:20.48 you've got to learn to concentrate 00:26:20.51\00:26:23.68 one word... means the same thing 00:26:23.75\00:26:26.21 as concentrate learn to focus 00:26:26.28\00:26:28.72 regardless of what else is going on around you 00:26:28.75\00:26:31.55 you've got to learn that, and then finally, 00:26:31.59\00:26:34.32 you've got to learn to echo... 00:26:34.36\00:26:36.02 that means, to repeat the same thing 00:26:36.06\00:26:38.56 over and over and over and over 00:26:38.59\00:26:40.83 and over again until you get it, 00:26:40.90\00:26:43.06 Okay... it doesn't matter 00:26:43.10\00:26:44.47 how many times it takes for you to get it, 00:26:44.50\00:26:46.53 you just do it until... you get it... 00:26:46.57\00:26:48.64 it may take one person three... 00:26:48.67\00:26:50.57 it may take another person nine... 00:26:50.61\00:26:52.41 it may take another person 27... 00:26:52.44\00:26:54.24 but even if it takes you 30, you do it until you get it. 00:26:54.28\00:26:57.88 I love it... 00:26:57.91\00:26:59.25 That's what you call, "Play your ace" 00:26:59.28\00:27:00.68 Play your ace. That's right. 00:27:00.75\00:27:02.08 I love that, that's awesome 00:27:02.12\00:27:03.45 would you have a lot of ideas in your book 00:27:03.49\00:27:06.45 in your motivational speaking, how can people contact you? 00:27:06.49\00:27:10.36 Let's put your e-mail address up so that people can e-mail you 00:27:10.39\00:27:14.13 That's levi35234@yahoo. com 00:27:14.20\00:27:17.90 and you're available to go to schools... 00:27:17.93\00:27:19.70 Absolutely... 00:27:19.73\00:27:21.07 Because you have been there throughout your life 00:27:21.10\00:27:24.11 you have been changed... 00:27:24.14\00:27:26.41 That's right, I have been changed... 00:27:26.44\00:27:27.78 and you want to share with others... how to do it. 00:27:27.81\00:27:29.61 That they can do it, and it's all about thinking big 00:27:29.64\00:27:31.71 one of the things that I do 00:27:31.75\00:27:34.25 is that I get them to raise their right hand 00:27:34.32\00:27:35.88 and pledge allegiance, 00:27:35.92\00:27:37.29 "I pledge allegiance to a new start 00:27:37.32\00:27:39.05 and from the bottom of my heart, 00:27:39.09\00:27:41.09 I am going to think big every day... in every way. " 00:27:41.12\00:27:44.86 I can't think of a better way to close than that 00:27:44.89\00:27:46.80 thank you so much and may God bless you 00:27:46.83\00:27:48.96 and thank you for being with us 00:27:49.00\00:27:50.43 and thank you, you know, 2nd Corinthians 5:17 says, 00:27:50.47\00:27:53.90 "Therefore if any man be in Christ, 00:27:53.94\00:27:55.57 he is a new creature: old things are passed away; 00:27:55.60\00:27:58.31 behold, all things are made new. " 00:27:58.34\00:28:00.41 Thank you so much Brother Bill, God bless you. 00:28:00.44\00:28:03.78 Tune in next time, 00:28:03.81\00:28:05.15 it wouldn't be the same without you. 00:28:05.18\00:28:06.51