Who says that a person can't change? 00:00:01.36\00:00:03.00 Stay tuned to meet a man who has changed 00:00:03.03\00:00:05.27 and helps others to do so as well. 00:00:05.30\00:00:07.77 My name is Yvonne Lewis 00:00:07.80\00:00:09.30 and you're watching Urban Report. 00:00:09.34\00:00:11.24 Hello and welcome to Urban Report. 00:00:33.76\00:00:36.23 My guest today is William Gailliard 00:00:36.26\00:00:38.43 Author of "Simply Thinking Big Every Day in Every Way" 00:00:38.47\00:00:42.47 and Motivational Speaker. 00:00:42.50\00:00:44.54 Welcome to Urban Report Bill. 00:00:44.57\00:00:46.74 Well, I'm glad to be here thank you very much. 00:00:46.78\00:00:48.84 So, you have a really interesting story 00:00:48.88\00:00:52.88 and I think our Viewers just need to know your journey. 00:00:52.91\00:00:56.62 Before we get into the book or anything like that 00:00:56.65\00:00:59.05 let's talk about Bill Gailliard, 00:00:59.09\00:01:01.42 who is Bill Gailliard, where did you from? 00:01:01.49\00:01:03.83 Charleston, South Carolina. 00:01:03.86\00:01:05.29 Okay, and tell us about your family. 00:01:05.33\00:01:07.56 My father was a pastor 00:01:07.60\00:01:10.30 in the African-Methodist Episcopalian church 00:01:10.33\00:01:12.43 for over 40 years and I'm the 9th of 10 children. 00:01:12.50\00:01:16.30 So you had nine siblings. 00:01:16.34\00:01:19.34 That's right. 00:01:19.37\00:01:20.71 Ten children... well, I'll bet 00:01:20.74\00:01:22.34 holidays were fun at your house, right? 00:01:22.38\00:01:23.91 Absolutely, absolutely, absolutely... 00:01:23.95\00:01:25.45 I was number nine 00:01:25.48\00:01:26.85 and they were hoping that I would be the last. 00:01:26.88\00:01:28.98 And then there was one after you, right? 00:01:29.02\00:01:31.39 And they were glad he came along. 00:01:31.45\00:01:33.15 Laughter... 00:01:33.19\00:01:35.16 So, what kind of a child were you, Bill? 00:01:35.19\00:01:37.89 Well, first of all I want to begin by saying 00:01:37.93\00:01:40.63 I was the middle child even though I was number nine 00:01:40.66\00:01:43.47 I was in between number eight and number ten 00:01:43.50\00:01:46.60 so that made me a middle child. Okay... 00:01:46.63\00:01:49.14 And of course the number 8th child 00:01:49.17\00:01:52.21 seemed to have gotten all the good gifts 00:01:52.24\00:01:55.68 I mean, my brother... two years older than myself, 00:01:55.71\00:02:01.48 could fix anything, 00:02:01.52\00:02:03.32 he was well-read, 00:02:03.35\00:02:05.09 and he was a straight "A" student 00:02:05.12\00:02:06.96 Ah... 00:02:06.99\00:02:08.92 and then I was caught in between him and the baby. 00:02:08.96\00:02:12.19 Ah... with all that that implies right... 00:02:12.23\00:02:16.20 With all that that implies... that's right. 00:02:16.26\00:02:20.07 And, of course, it seems as though 00:02:20.10\00:02:22.10 everything that broke around the house 00:02:22.14\00:02:24.14 had my name attached to it. 00:02:24.17\00:02:25.94 Ah... 00:02:25.97\00:02:27.31 so were you the child that kind of... 00:02:27.34\00:02:29.11 didn't feel like he could get it right? 00:02:29.14\00:02:31.08 Just couldn't ever get it right, that's right. 00:02:31.11\00:02:33.92 That was from early on. 00:02:33.95\00:02:36.99 Okay, so how did that impact you growing up? 00:02:37.02\00:02:40.66 Well, it caused me to really want to get it together... 00:02:40.69\00:02:47.26 go the extra mile, I had to fight for everything 00:02:47.30\00:02:50.83 and I was never right 00:02:50.87\00:02:52.47 and I use that quite a bit today 00:02:52.53\00:02:55.80 when people say, "You always want to be right" 00:02:55.84\00:02:58.47 I say, "No... I'm used to being wrong" 00:02:58.51\00:03:00.31 and so during those early years, it was really rough on me 00:03:00.34\00:03:08.42 I just... just could not ever seem to get it right. 00:03:08.48\00:03:12.25 How were your grades? 00:03:12.29\00:03:13.76 Well, that was the good part the Lord did bless me 00:03:13.79\00:03:19.19 to be able to do well in school 00:03:19.23\00:03:21.26 and I only remembered one time when I struggled with Algebra 00:03:21.33\00:03:26.70 and my brother two years older than myself 00:03:26.74\00:03:30.91 helped me quite a bit 00:03:30.97\00:03:32.97 when I flunked my first Algebra test 00:03:33.01\00:03:36.04 and just didn't think that I needed to study 00:03:36.08\00:03:40.35 because I was pretty good in Math 00:03:40.38\00:03:42.42 and, of course, when I flunked that test 00:03:42.45\00:03:45.95 I said, "What happened?" and then he took me... 00:03:45.99\00:03:48.36 sat me down and taught me Algebra 00:03:48.39\00:03:51.09 up until late that night and from that point on 00:03:51.16\00:03:54.40 we were the best of friends. 00:03:54.43\00:03:56.16 Now, before then, we were not. 00:03:56.20\00:03:57.73 Really? That's right. 00:03:57.77\00:03:59.10 So it took this failure, so to speak, 00:03:59.13\00:04:04.11 in Algebra... Right... 00:04:04.14\00:04:05.47 to kind of bring you and your brother together. 00:04:05.51\00:04:07.54 Absolutely, I mean, he was always loving me 00:04:07.58\00:04:10.68 but because everything was going his way 00:04:10.71\00:04:13.78 and there was the sibling rivalry 00:04:13.82\00:04:18.62 and I was the underdog all the time 00:04:18.65\00:04:23.02 and so I was always fighting for my place 00:04:23.06\00:04:26.80 but from that point on I admired him. 00:04:26.83\00:04:30.53 That's awesome. 00:04:30.57\00:04:32.47 And that turned things around. 00:04:32.50\00:04:33.84 Yes... yes... yes... so, as a child then 00:04:33.87\00:04:37.27 you had certain challenges to overcome 00:04:37.31\00:04:40.78 being the "middle child" at the end of the line, 00:04:40.81\00:04:43.68 so to speak, That's right. 00:04:43.71\00:04:45.05 so you had those challenges to overcome 00:04:45.08\00:04:47.28 there were some other things 00:04:47.32\00:04:48.68 that happened to you though 00:04:48.75\00:04:50.09 because I read in the book that you got into a habit 00:04:50.12\00:04:53.92 of doing what? 00:04:53.96\00:04:55.29 Of stealing... that's right... 00:04:55.32\00:04:57.03 ever since I knew myself, I would steal 00:04:57.06\00:05:00.43 without a blink of an eye I would steal. 00:05:00.50\00:05:03.83 Now, how did it start? 00:05:03.87\00:05:05.57 Well, it was just around the house 00:05:05.60\00:05:07.90 just one thing after another 00:05:07.94\00:05:10.34 I just developed this habit of taking that which was not mine 00:05:10.37\00:05:14.74 and there were many stories that I could... 00:05:14.78\00:05:18.11 there are many stories that I could give 00:05:18.15\00:05:21.38 but one that I remember... is... my sister was 18-years-old then 00:05:21.42\00:05:26.49 my Sis would always send us money through the mail 00:05:26.52\00:05:30.53 and I knew the money was coming 00:05:30.56\00:05:31.89 and I would look for the mail to come 00:05:31.93\00:05:34.13 and I would always go and take the money out 00:05:34.16\00:05:36.70 before it got there. 00:05:36.77\00:05:38.10 Oh, she would get cash... 00:05:38.13\00:05:39.47 Cash... those were the days when they would send cash 00:05:39.50\00:05:41.60 through the mail and I would take the money out 00:05:41.64\00:05:44.37 that was very bad, but that was one of the habits. 00:05:44.44\00:05:46.94 Now, during those days, 00:05:46.98\00:05:48.64 there were also Pay-Telephone Booths 00:05:48.68\00:05:52.95 and this is one of the whippings that I can still remember, right 00:05:52.98\00:05:58.75 because I was going to the telephone booth 00:05:58.79\00:06:02.16 taking the money out of the telephone booth 00:06:02.22\00:06:05.79 and my brother, two years older than me, 00:06:05.83\00:06:09.36 told on me and that was one of the 00:06:09.40\00:06:11.80 whippings that I can still remember... today... 00:06:11.83\00:06:13.77 And that was before you guys got close, right? 00:06:13.80\00:06:16.00 That was way before that 00:06:16.04\00:06:17.37 but he was always telling though 00:06:17.41\00:06:20.24 he was always telling on me 00:06:20.28\00:06:21.61 and it was all about trying to help me stay out of trouble. 00:06:21.64\00:06:24.61 Hmmm... What I discovered later 00:06:24.65\00:06:27.25 is that he really loved me Hmmm... 00:06:27.28\00:06:29.92 but I didn't see it as "love" in those days 00:06:29.95\00:06:32.02 he was always tattle-taleing. Yes... yes... yes... 00:06:32.05\00:06:35.29 So, how long did this stealing phase of your life last? 00:06:35.32\00:06:40.66 Oh, it lasted until I was at least 00:06:40.70\00:06:44.70 in Seventh Grade because I don't remember 00:06:44.73\00:06:46.87 having a problem with it after 00:06:46.90\00:06:49.20 Seventh Grade. 00:06:49.24\00:06:50.64 What stopped you? 00:06:50.67\00:06:52.01 Well, there were many things that happened 00:06:52.04\00:06:54.44 to bring me to the point of making an intelligent decision 00:06:54.48\00:06:59.05 that it wasn't worth it, that's what really happened 00:06:59.08\00:07:02.88 I came to the point where I realized 00:07:02.92\00:07:04.55 it just wasn't worth it 00:07:04.62\00:07:07.76 and so one of the things that happened 00:07:07.79\00:07:10.43 is that in Sixth Grade, my Sixth-Grade Teacher 00:07:10.46\00:07:15.93 had the class that they called, "The Good Class" 00:07:15.96\00:07:21.44 and so I was in "The Good Class" 00:07:21.47\00:07:23.47 What was it, the Honors Class? 00:07:23.51\00:07:25.44 The Honors Class... Hmmm... hmmm... 00:07:25.47\00:07:26.84 and so, I was in that class 00:07:26.88\00:07:28.21 and... but she knew that I had a habit of getting into fights 00:07:28.24\00:07:32.98 and so that was another problem I had as well 00:07:33.01\00:07:36.35 that's why... on the front of my book I said, 00:07:36.38\00:07:39.49 "Anyone can change" 00:07:39.52\00:07:40.86 because I had the habit of getting into fights 00:07:40.89\00:07:43.19 now I didn't pick the fights but I really liked a good fight. 00:07:43.22\00:07:46.80 You didn't start it but you finished it. 00:07:46.83\00:07:51.80 I really would... you know... 00:07:51.83\00:07:53.54 that's where my reputation came from. 00:07:53.57\00:07:55.80 Okay... I didn't back down from a fight 00:07:55.84\00:07:58.01 but anyhow, she really tried her best to reach me, 00:07:58.04\00:08:01.54 tried her best to reach me, 00:08:01.58\00:08:04.35 and I would help clean the class up. 00:08:04.38\00:08:06.95 Well, the kids didn't like to clean up 00:08:07.02\00:08:09.52 but I liked to clean up, 00:08:09.55\00:08:10.89 that's one of the things that I did learn 00:08:10.92\00:08:13.15 early on from my mom 00:08:13.19\00:08:14.69 because I was the only one of the boys 00:08:14.72\00:08:17.43 that woke up early every morning 00:08:17.46\00:08:20.10 when mom was up, cooking 00:08:20.13\00:08:22.46 and starting the fire 00:08:22.50\00:08:24.77 that's the kind of kid I was, I was around my mom 00:08:24.80\00:08:27.60 so... to some extent I was a "Mother's Boy" 00:08:27.64\00:08:30.41 Hmmm... hmmm.. 00:08:30.47\00:08:31.81 and so I learned to clean up very early 00:08:31.84\00:08:33.98 cleaning up at the school now, was no problem 00:08:34.01\00:08:37.05 because that was something that I did at home 00:08:37.08\00:08:40.78 and so that was one of the things that... 00:08:40.82\00:08:44.39 she embraced me with allowing me to be around her 00:08:44.42\00:08:48.79 that was one of the things that she did to embrace me 00:08:48.82\00:08:53.06 to see whether she could win me 00:08:53.09\00:08:54.86 and as a result I got very close to her 00:08:54.90\00:08:58.77 she got very close to me but she would never put my name 00:08:58.80\00:09:03.74 on the Honor Roll List because she wanted me to know 00:09:03.77\00:09:08.04 that she wasn't going to let me represent her class 00:09:08.08\00:09:12.28 until I made some changes. Hmmm... 00:09:12.31\00:09:15.05 And so... So your grades... 00:09:15.08\00:09:17.39 Grades were already... 00:09:17.42\00:09:19.05 Your grades were Honor Roll Level? 00:09:19.09\00:09:20.76 Yes... But she wouldn't put you 00:09:20.79\00:09:22.39 on the Honor Roll? 00:09:22.42\00:09:23.76 She would not put me on the Honor Roll 00:09:23.79\00:09:25.13 How did that make you feel? 00:09:25.16\00:09:26.56 Very bad... very bad... I didn't like it 00:09:26.59\00:09:28.83 and we never discussed it 00:09:28.86\00:09:30.37 it's just that, I can still remember 00:09:30.40\00:09:32.37 the first time when I knew I had made the Honor Roll 00:09:32.40\00:09:34.94 and I was waiting for my name to be called 00:09:34.97\00:09:36.97 and it wasn't called, 00:09:37.01\00:09:38.34 I said, "Whew"... I remember the feeling 00:09:38.37\00:09:41.31 Hmmm... hmmm... 00:09:41.34\00:09:43.35 well I wanted to say something but I didn't say anything 00:09:43.41\00:09:45.51 and I eventually figured out why she was doing it 00:09:45.55\00:09:48.65 and I just had to accept it. 00:09:48.68\00:09:51.05 Hmmm... wow... 00:09:51.09\00:09:53.05 But it got my attention. 00:09:53.09\00:09:54.42 Okay, so this is one of the ways that you stopped stealing. 00:09:54.46\00:09:57.63 Was this one of the things that made you stop stealing? 00:09:57.66\00:10:00.90 No, the thing that got me to stop stealing 00:10:00.93\00:10:03.43 was the fact that because I got close to her 00:10:03.47\00:10:05.93 and I would clean up the classrooms, 00:10:05.97\00:10:07.87 after school, 00:10:07.90\00:10:10.07 on this particular day her pocketbook was sitting 00:10:10.11\00:10:14.68 on the top of the desk and I saw it 00:10:14.71\00:10:19.48 and my mind said, 00:10:19.51\00:10:21.85 "Get that pocketbook" 00:10:21.88\00:10:24.15 that little voice... Hmmm... hmmm... 00:10:24.19\00:10:26.45 and it just didn't look like the right thing to do 00:10:26.49\00:10:30.03 so I left the classroom 00:10:30.06\00:10:35.63 and was walking from 100 to 200 yards 00:10:35.66\00:10:40.00 away from the school and she knew I had left 00:10:40.04\00:10:46.27 but it was like a spirit that comes over a person to do wrong 00:10:46.31\00:10:52.95 that spirit came over me again 00:10:52.98\00:10:55.78 and I turned around and I headed back 00:10:55.82\00:11:00.06 but she had gone to the Teachers' Lounge 00:11:00.09\00:11:04.26 but she knew she saw me 00:11:04.29\00:11:06.46 and so when I came back and she was not there 00:11:06.49\00:11:10.97 and I got the pocketbook 00:11:11.00\00:11:12.33 and interestingly enough when you do things like that 00:11:12.37\00:11:14.44 it's interestingly enough, 00:11:14.47\00:11:16.20 there was no money in the pocketbook 00:11:16.27\00:11:17.77 Hmmm... it wasn't worth it. 00:11:17.81\00:11:19.27 So I hid the pocketbook not far from our house 00:11:19.31\00:11:23.61 now, that was bad... 00:11:23.65\00:11:25.98 the boy on the next street 00:11:26.01\00:11:28.52 would end up finding the pocketbook 00:11:28.55\00:11:30.75 and taking it to school and then they told my dad 00:11:30.79\00:11:35.69 and in those days we sat around the table 00:11:35.72\00:11:41.03 to eat when dad came home 00:11:41.06\00:11:42.60 and we were at the table and just in the nick of time 00:11:42.63\00:11:47.60 when everyone had served their food, 00:11:47.64\00:11:50.61 my dad just... out of the clear blue said, 00:11:50.64\00:11:53.74 "Someone stole Mrs. Baker's pocketbook" 00:11:53.78\00:11:59.08 and with all the 00:11:59.11\00:12:02.12 acting ability that I had 00:12:02.18\00:12:04.32 I didn't change the expression on my face 00:12:04.35\00:12:06.72 I didn't skip a beat, 00:12:06.76\00:12:09.36 I didn't show any signs 00:12:09.42\00:12:12.76 that it was me 00:12:12.79\00:12:14.13 because that's what he was looking for 00:12:14.16\00:12:15.50 as a matter of fact the fork was in my hand 00:12:15.53\00:12:18.07 and it came up in this regular pace 00:12:18.10\00:12:20.80 and I just moved... just normally... 00:12:20.84\00:12:23.47 and since I passed that test, he went down to everyone else 00:12:23.51\00:12:27.61 and said that... 00:12:27.64\00:12:30.28 he asked each child 00:12:30.31\00:12:32.85 whether they had stolen the pocketbook 00:12:32.91\00:12:35.28 from the older to the next, to the next, 00:12:35.35\00:12:37.69 and then he skipped across me and went to the youngest brother 00:12:37.72\00:12:41.22 and everybody said that they didn't do it 00:12:41.26\00:12:43.73 well, the two older boys 00:12:43.76\00:12:45.26 weren't even at the school, they were in High School 00:12:45.29\00:12:47.20 and the younger boy was in a different building 00:12:47.23\00:12:50.73 the only person who was in Ms. Baker's class was me, 00:12:50.77\00:12:54.34 so he saved me for last... Hmmm... hmmm... 00:12:54.37\00:12:57.44 and he asked me, and just like I had been trained 00:12:57.47\00:13:02.04 for acting, I said, "No sir... " 00:13:02.08\00:13:04.35 so it was done so well 00:13:04.38\00:13:09.88 until everyone... 00:13:09.92\00:13:12.35 the kids by-the-way were afraid to death, 00:13:12.39\00:13:14.42 Hmmm... hmmmm... 00:13:14.46\00:13:15.79 because they knew that I was going to lose my life today 00:13:15.82\00:13:17.99 Your daddy didn't play. 00:13:18.03\00:13:20.96 this was going to be it, they were afraid for me 00:13:21.00\00:13:23.67 and so... but I passed that test 00:13:23.70\00:13:26.17 and he finally said, 00:13:26.20\00:13:29.80 "Willy, are you sure, 00:13:29.84\00:13:33.34 did you steal Mrs. Baker's pocketbook?" 00:13:33.38\00:13:37.65 I said, "No sir... " just as calm as could be 00:13:37.68\00:13:39.88 now... at that time, it seems as though 00:13:39.91\00:13:43.02 I heard the door open 00:13:43.05\00:13:44.69 and the sense that "death" was in the house. 00:13:44.75\00:13:48.76 Something bad was going to happen today 00:13:48.79\00:13:50.89 and when my dad 00:13:50.93\00:13:55.66 got up from the table, 00:13:55.70\00:13:57.77 and you could hear the chair 00:13:57.80\00:13:59.83 moving... wooh... wooh... like that... 00:13:59.87\00:14:01.34 he said, "I still think you stole the pocketbook" 00:14:01.37\00:14:07.74 he didn't know, but I had passed the test 00:14:07.78\00:14:11.71 and when that episode was over, 00:14:11.75\00:14:14.82 and as soon as "death" had gone back out the door 00:14:14.88\00:14:19.05 because he had entered in, 00:14:19.09\00:14:20.49 this was going to be someone was going to die 00:14:20.52\00:14:23.56 before the end of the day, oh my! 00:14:23.59\00:14:27.33 I had passed that test and when I walked out of there 00:14:27.36\00:14:30.77 I said, "It's not worth it" Hmmm... 00:14:30.83\00:14:33.70 with all the stress, with all the unrest, 00:14:33.74\00:14:37.97 sleepless night, 00:14:38.01\00:14:39.67 it just wasn't worth it... Hmmm... hmmm... 00:14:39.71\00:14:43.18 and so, that was one of the great 00:14:43.24\00:14:45.61 things to help me turn around 00:14:45.65\00:14:47.95 and as a child you say, "it's just not worth it" 00:14:47.98\00:14:51.95 so consequences of making poor decisions... 00:14:51.99\00:14:56.59 it's just not worth it. 00:14:56.62\00:14:58.29 And so that philosophy carried on with you 00:14:58.33\00:15:02.50 throughout your life. Yes... yes... 00:15:02.56\00:15:04.20 It's just not worth it... It's just not worth it... 00:15:04.23\00:15:07.14 that's right, and of course I had stolen one other thing, 00:15:07.17\00:15:10.44 from Mrs. Baker, 00:15:10.47\00:15:13.04 it was at the end of the school day 00:15:13.07\00:15:16.38 and there were six coconut cakes that were left over 00:15:16.41\00:15:21.28 from a King and Queen Contest, 00:15:21.32\00:15:22.68 you remember those days, the King and Queen Contest, 00:15:22.72\00:15:25.05 Hmmm... hmmm... and she said, 00:15:25.09\00:15:26.62 "Take these to the car" 00:15:26.65\00:15:27.99 and I took them from the classroom to the car 00:15:28.02\00:15:32.16 and that little voice said, "She's not going to miss one" 00:15:32.19\00:15:36.60 if I knew all that was going to come from that one cake, 00:15:36.63\00:15:40.54 I'm telling you, 00:15:40.57\00:15:41.90 how can a person get that upset over one cake? in my mind... 00:15:41.94\00:15:48.41 but she got upset over that one cake 00:15:48.44\00:15:51.11 she even asked me, did I see anyone 00:15:51.15\00:15:53.78 and I just blurted out the name of some bad guy 00:15:53.82\00:15:57.22 in the neighborhood and she went to the High School 00:15:57.25\00:16:00.62 and had him in the classroom the next morning, 00:16:00.66\00:16:03.66 and the kids in the classroom were afraid for me 00:16:03.69\00:16:06.63 because this was a bad guy, I just blurted his name out 00:16:06.66\00:16:09.96 and when that episode was over, I said again, 00:16:10.00\00:16:13.20 "It's just not worth it" and my daddy had already told me 00:16:13.23\00:16:19.31 that if I didn't stop stealing around the house 00:16:19.34\00:16:21.98 that I would eventually steal abroad, 00:16:22.01\00:16:25.55 Hmmm... hmmm... and he says, 00:16:25.58\00:16:27.35 "When you steal abroad, you're going to get caught 00:16:27.38\00:16:30.89 and when you get caught, 00:16:30.92\00:16:33.46 they're going to take you to the Reformatory School 00:16:33.49\00:16:36.66 and when they take you to the Reformatory School, 00:16:36.69\00:16:39.83 you're going to stay there 00:16:39.86\00:16:41.30 until you graduate from High School, 00:16:41.33\00:16:44.03 and I'm not going to visit you... 00:16:44.07\00:16:45.70 not even once... " Hmmm... 00:16:45.73\00:16:47.07 because he had told me over and over 00:16:47.10\00:16:48.80 "you need to stop stealing" 00:16:48.84\00:16:50.24 and so, again, when that second incident happened, 00:16:50.27\00:16:55.74 with Mrs. Baker, 00:16:55.78\00:16:57.91 I said again, "It's just not worth it. " 00:16:57.95\00:17:00.48 But then the third instant, 00:17:00.52\00:17:03.32 when I stole in a Grocery Store 00:17:03.35\00:17:05.95 big Grocery Store, and I was at the Counter 00:17:05.99\00:17:10.19 with money in my pocket, but I stole a bag of candy corn 00:17:10.23\00:17:15.46 and a hand gripped me like that, 00:17:15.50\00:17:18.23 Hmmm... my goose was cooked... 00:17:18.27\00:17:20.97 my heart was beating 00:17:21.00\00:17:23.17 and all of a sudden in the middle of the aisle, 00:17:23.20\00:17:27.41 someone just appeared and walked up and says, 00:17:27.44\00:17:31.11 "He's from a good family, I know the parents, 00:17:31.18\00:17:34.82 give him another chance" 00:17:34.85\00:17:36.89 and the man released my hand 00:17:36.92\00:17:40.56 and gave me some tough words 00:17:40.62\00:17:44.19 and told me not to every come back again, 00:17:44.23\00:17:46.16 and my heart was broken on that day. 00:17:46.19\00:17:50.03 I said... my heart was broken, my daddy's words had come true 00:17:50.07\00:17:56.17 the stealing that I had been doing 00:17:56.20\00:17:58.67 at home... had gone abroad. 00:17:58.74\00:18:02.24 Hmmm... I did get caught, 00:18:02.31\00:18:05.48 but I got grace, 00:18:05.51\00:18:07.55 and that's why I talk about grace so much now, 00:18:07.62\00:18:09.85 believing in God, Yes... 00:18:09.88\00:18:11.69 believing in grace. 00:18:11.72\00:18:13.05 Yes, yes, because grace has been activated in your life 00:18:13.09\00:18:17.06 and you're the recipient 00:18:17.13\00:18:18.53 of grace. That's right, that's right, 00:18:18.56\00:18:20.66 and I came out of that store that day 00:18:20.70\00:18:22.56 in tears, with a broken heart 00:18:22.63\00:18:26.10 and I began to say, "Please change me. " 00:18:26.13\00:18:29.64 Hmmm... Oh yeah... 00:18:29.70\00:18:31.14 the God that I had heard about 00:18:31.17\00:18:33.94 I began to talk to him like... he was there 00:18:33.98\00:18:37.55 I said, "please, please change me" 00:18:37.58\00:18:40.15 I mean... broken... I wanted to change 00:18:40.18\00:18:43.22 So how did God manifest Himself to you, 00:18:43.25\00:18:46.25 how did you begin that change, 00:18:46.29\00:18:49.69 I know, after this particular incident, 00:18:49.72\00:18:52.43 was there anything else that happened 00:18:52.46\00:18:55.13 that wherein... you said, 00:18:55.16\00:18:56.63 "Wow, I really have changed God really has changed me. " 00:18:56.67\00:18:59.77 Well, what happened is that when my heart was broken, 00:18:59.80\00:19:04.97 shedding tears, it felt like a load... 00:19:05.01\00:19:09.08 I don't know whether you've ever lifted Barbells 00:19:09.11\00:19:11.71 and when you pick up the weight 00:19:11.75\00:19:16.08 that's too heavy, and you need to let it down, 00:19:16.12\00:19:18.75 that's how I felt. 00:19:18.79\00:19:20.66 A load just seemed to have fallen off of me 00:19:20.69\00:19:25.03 and I felt better 00:19:25.09\00:19:27.43 and I just knew something had happened 00:19:27.46\00:19:30.20 I didn't understand what happened 00:19:30.23\00:19:32.63 but something had happened that day and I knew 00:19:32.67\00:19:36.97 that something had happened that's all I could say. 00:19:37.01\00:19:42.28 Right... Something had happened 00:19:42.31\00:19:43.65 as a matter of fact what happened when I was in 00:19:43.68\00:19:48.05 Fourth Grade, was the fact that 00:19:48.08\00:19:50.79 I had been such a terrible fellow 00:19:50.82\00:19:53.49 in Third Grade, 00:19:53.56\00:19:54.89 so that when I got to Fourth Grade 00:19:54.92\00:19:58.33 the teacher was braced and waiting for me. 00:19:58.36\00:20:00.30 Because your reputation preceded you. 00:20:00.36\00:20:03.10 My reputation preceded me and she was looking 00:20:03.16\00:20:05.73 for that kid that was raising so much sighing in Third Grade 00:20:05.77\00:20:09.84 until... she was ready for me on the first day 00:20:09.90\00:20:13.68 but that guy never showed up on the first day 00:20:13.71\00:20:16.14 Hmmm... nor the first week, 00:20:16.18\00:20:18.71 nor the first month, nor the first semester, 00:20:18.75\00:20:22.48 and on the last day of the school year, 00:20:22.52\00:20:24.92 she said, "Son, what happened?" 00:20:24.95\00:20:27.96 She wanted to know because she said, 00:20:27.99\00:20:30.26 "I was waiting for you from the first day" 00:20:30.29\00:20:32.46 and guess what I said, I said that I was born again. 00:20:32.49\00:20:37.23 Ah... That's the only term I knew 00:20:37.27\00:20:40.04 at that time to explain to her 00:20:40.07\00:20:42.80 what had happened to me. 00:20:42.87\00:20:44.24 And how old were you? 00:20:44.31\00:20:45.64 At that time, I was just nine. 00:20:45.67\00:20:47.64 Okay. But my dad had done... 00:20:47.68\00:20:49.58 really worked on my rear end. Hmmm... hmmm... Ha... ha... 00:20:49.61\00:20:54.15 Now that's what we call 00:20:54.22\00:20:55.98 "Putting the Board of Education on the seat of my intelligence" 00:20:56.05\00:20:58.75 you know what I'm saying, ha... ha... ha... 00:20:58.79\00:21:01.09 and when you put it in... in the proper place, 00:21:01.12\00:21:03.39 it goes right to the brain, 00:21:03.43\00:21:05.39 it re-trains the brain, 00:21:05.46\00:21:07.66 if you understand what I'm talking about... ha... ha... 00:21:07.73\00:21:09.33 I hear you... I hear you... 00:21:09.36\00:21:11.03 and so, I was born again, and dad says, 00:21:11.07\00:21:13.27 "Gailliards don't act that way" Hmmm... 00:21:13.30\00:21:15.67 and so, I had a great Fourth Grade. 00:21:15.70\00:21:18.04 Hmmm... Now things... you know 00:21:18.07\00:21:20.18 just like the sign curves go up... 00:21:20.21\00:21:22.24 and so Fifth and Sixth... went down 00:21:22.28\00:21:25.28 and then Seventh... got a little better 00:21:25.31\00:21:28.28 by the time I got to Eighth, I was making good decisions 00:21:28.32\00:21:32.42 and my mom was in the background 00:21:32.45\00:21:34.46 she was saying that, "boy, if you don't change, 00:21:34.49\00:21:38.46 your daddy is not going to let you drive that car 00:21:38.49\00:21:42.43 like the other brothers. " Hmmm... 00:21:42.46\00:21:44.03 And these days, 00:21:44.07\00:21:46.13 our family was one of the few families 00:21:46.17\00:21:48.27 that had a car in our neighborhood 00:21:48.30\00:21:50.14 folks were riding the City Bus 00:21:50.17\00:21:52.41 at that time... Hmmm... hmmm... 00:21:52.44\00:21:54.64 and so she kept telling me, 00:21:54.68\00:21:57.91 "You're not going to get that Driver's License 00:21:57.95\00:21:59.85 like Junior and like James" 00:21:59.91\00:22:01.58 and that also helped me to make good choices 00:22:01.62\00:22:05.35 because I knew that I wanted the Driver's license right on time 00:22:05.39\00:22:09.79 like everybody else and so 00:22:09.82\00:22:11.16 it started helping me to think right. 00:22:11.19\00:22:12.99 Hmmm... hmmm... hmmm... hmmm... so, when you became an adult 00:22:13.03\00:22:16.90 or just... in your pre... your post-adolescent years 00:22:16.93\00:22:22.90 just before adulthood... was there some pivotal event 00:22:22.94\00:22:28.14 that really changed your life? 00:22:28.18\00:22:29.91 Well, I'm thinking that what really brought about the changes 00:22:29.94\00:22:34.55 was when hand grabbed me... Hmmm... 00:22:34.58\00:22:37.42 and when my daddy's words 00:22:37.45\00:22:40.86 had come to 00:22:40.89\00:22:43.16 fruition or fulfillment 00:22:43.19\00:22:45.13 and I could hear his words saying, 00:22:45.19\00:22:49.53 "This is going to happen 00:22:49.56\00:22:51.70 and this is how I'm going to respond to it" 00:22:51.73\00:22:57.04 that helped me tremendously. 00:22:57.11\00:22:59.97 Now, by the time I became a teenager 00:23:00.01\00:23:03.11 I was an excellent church worker 00:23:03.14\00:23:05.45 now... I was in the African Methodist 00:23:05.48\00:23:14.12 Episcopalian church at this time 00:23:14.16\00:23:15.49 and he was the Pastor and I was a people's person, 00:23:15.52\00:23:18.83 I was a choir leader, 00:23:18.86\00:23:20.33 I was even a soul winner to some extent 00:23:20.36\00:23:24.17 because I would get the young kids to come to the church 00:23:24.20\00:23:28.94 he liked that and as a result he ended up giving me a car 00:23:28.97\00:23:33.68 at age 16, so these things had a lot to do 00:23:33.71\00:23:37.15 with me continuing to make right choices 00:23:37.18\00:23:40.55 because I saw that number one 00:23:40.62\00:23:43.22 I've got my permit on time at 14, 00:23:43.25\00:23:45.79 and my Driver's License on time at 16, 00:23:45.82\00:23:49.02 he allowed me to even take the School-Bus Driving Test 00:23:49.06\00:23:53.53 and I drove the school bus from 16... 00:23:53.56\00:23:56.67 from 10th, 11th and 12th grade, 00:23:56.70\00:23:58.93 this taught me that he was trusting me 00:23:59.00\00:24:04.01 to make right choices because you don't let a... 00:24:04.04\00:24:06.57 go ahead... No you finish your sentence. 00:24:06.61\00:24:08.54 You don't let a teenager drive a School Bus without showing him 00:24:08.58\00:24:16.65 that he can make responsible decisions 00:24:16.69\00:24:20.22 because every day you got under that steering wheel, 00:24:20.26\00:24:23.66 kids were doing all kinds of things on the school buses 00:24:23.69\00:24:27.06 and you had to make right choices everyday 00:24:27.10\00:24:29.50 And you're a teenager... I'm a teenager... 00:24:29.56\00:24:31.93 Wow! that's a lot of responsibility! 00:24:31.97\00:24:34.50 That was a big responsibility. 00:24:34.54\00:24:37.11 So, how did you come to write a book? 00:24:37.14\00:24:38.84 Let's talk about that... because our time... 00:24:38.87\00:24:40.78 I can't believe our time is running out 00:24:40.81\00:24:42.58 Yeah, I can't believe it either... 00:24:42.64\00:24:44.35 How did you come to write this book about thinking big? 00:24:44.38\00:24:47.35 Well, I had been going into the schools 00:24:47.38\00:24:50.42 taking the gospel into the school 00:24:50.45\00:24:52.45 and this is my little manual that I had been using 00:24:52.49\00:24:55.99 Yes... I had it all written out 00:24:56.02\00:24:58.06 what I had been doing for several years 00:24:58.09\00:25:00.00 and people were following me and a little voice said, 00:25:00.03\00:25:05.53 "If you don't write a book 00:25:05.57\00:25:07.30 someone is going to take your stuff 00:25:07.34\00:25:09.60 and they are going to write a book 00:25:09.64\00:25:11.67 and they are going to be 00:25:11.71\00:25:13.27 laughing all the way to the bank 00:25:13.31\00:25:15.08 and you're going to be crying" 00:25:15.11\00:25:16.88 that's how the book came about 00:25:16.91\00:25:19.11 because I had had this, been using it 00:25:19.18\00:25:22.32 and was not afraid to put my stuff that were unique 00:25:22.35\00:25:27.72 out there... just wasn't afraid... 00:25:27.76\00:25:30.43 And what kinds of ideas are you setting forth in the book 00:25:30.49\00:25:35.73 that are unique to you? 00:25:35.76\00:25:37.17 Play your ace... so when I go into a classroom 00:25:37.20\00:25:40.84 or to a school and I talk to kids 00:25:40.87\00:25:43.41 about improving their grades 00:25:43.44\00:25:45.31 I ask them, "How many of you are straight "A" students?" 00:25:45.34\00:25:48.18 and very few hands go up. 00:25:48.21\00:25:49.68 How many of you are A/B Honor Roll? 00:25:49.71\00:25:51.91 and a few more... 00:25:51.95\00:25:53.28 and... but for the most part 00:25:53.31\00:25:55.35 the kids are not on the Honor Roll 00:25:55.38\00:25:57.62 so I said, "How many of you 00:25:57.65\00:25:58.99 would like to make better grades?" 00:25:59.02\00:26:01.06 And all the hands go up, I said, "Very good. " 00:26:01.09\00:26:03.43 "Well, the first thing you need to do is 00:26:03.46\00:26:05.63 learn to play your ace... " 00:26:05.66\00:26:07.26 I said, "Now, if you learn to play your ace, 00:26:07.30\00:26:09.60 the grades will go up" 00:26:09.63\00:26:10.97 no two ways about it, 00:26:11.00\00:26:12.33 now what's the ace? Learn to pay attention. 00:26:12.37\00:26:14.70 I said, "You've got to learn to pay attention" 00:26:14.77\00:26:17.14 Hmmm... The "C" is for concentration 00:26:17.17\00:26:20.48 you've got to learn to concentrate 00:26:20.51\00:26:23.71 one word... means the same thing 00:26:23.75\00:26:26.25 as concentrate learn to focus 00:26:26.31\00:26:28.75 regardless of what else is going on around you 00:26:28.78\00:26:31.59 you've got to learn that, and then finally, 00:26:31.62\00:26:34.36 you've got to learn to echo... 00:26:34.39\00:26:36.06 that means, to repeat the same thing 00:26:36.09\00:26:38.59 over and over and over and over 00:26:38.63\00:26:40.86 and over again until you get it, 00:26:40.90\00:26:43.13 Okay... it doesn't matter 00:26:43.16\00:26:44.53 how many times it takes for you to get it, 00:26:44.57\00:26:46.60 you just do it until... you get it... 00:26:46.63\00:26:48.70 it may take one person three... 00:26:48.74\00:26:50.61 it may take another person nine... 00:26:50.64\00:26:52.47 it may take another person 27... 00:26:52.51\00:26:54.28 but even if it takes you 30, you do it until you get it. 00:26:54.31\00:26:57.95 I love it... 00:26:57.98\00:26:59.31 That's what you call, "Play your ace" 00:26:59.35\00:27:00.68 Play your ace. That's right. 00:27:00.72\00:27:02.05 I love that, that's awesome 00:27:02.08\00:27:03.42 would you have a lot of ideas in your book 00:27:03.45\00:27:06.45 in your motivational speaking, how can people contact you? 00:27:06.49\00:27:10.33 Let's put your e-mail address up so that people can e-mail you 00:27:10.36\00:27:14.16 That's levi35234@yahoo. com 00:27:14.20\00:27:17.93 and you're available to go to schools... 00:27:17.97\00:27:19.73 Absolutely... 00:27:19.77\00:27:21.10 Because you have been there throughout your life 00:27:21.14\00:27:24.11 you have been changed... 00:27:24.14\00:27:26.44 That's right, I have been changed... 00:27:26.47\00:27:27.81 and you want to share with others... how to do it. 00:27:27.84\00:27:29.64 That they can do it, and it's all about thinking big 00:27:29.68\00:27:31.75 one of the things that I do 00:27:31.78\00:27:34.28 is that I get them to raise their right hand 00:27:34.32\00:27:35.92 and pledge allegiance, 00:27:35.95\00:27:37.29 "I pledge allegiance to a new start 00:27:37.32\00:27:39.09 and from the bottom of my heart, 00:27:39.12\00:27:41.12 I am going to think big every day... in every way. " 00:27:41.16\00:27:44.89 I can't think of a better way to close than that 00:27:44.93\00:27:46.83 thank you so much and may God bless you 00:27:46.86\00:27:49.03 and thank you for being with us 00:27:49.06\00:27:50.47 and thank you, you know, 2nd Corinthians 5:17 says, 00:27:50.50\00:27:53.94 "Therefore if any man be in Christ, 00:27:53.97\00:27:55.64 he is a new creature: old things are passed away; 00:27:55.67\00:27:58.37 behold, all things are made new. " 00:27:58.41\00:28:00.38 Thank you so much Brother Bill, God bless you. 00:28:00.41\00:28:03.78 Tune in next time, 00:28:03.81\00:28:05.15 it wouldn't be the same without you. 00:28:05.18\00:28:06.51