Stay tuned to meet a young
man that by the power of God
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turned his passion into purity.
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My name is Yvonne
Lewis and you're watching
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Urban Report...
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Hello and welcome
to Urban Report...
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My guest today
is Jacques Laguerre
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Founder and CEO
of Genesis of Purity
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a Program that helps others
to practice sexual purity...
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Welcome to Urban
Report Jacques...
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Thank you for
having me Dr. Lewis...
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Oh, it's great to have you here
and feel free to call me Yvonne.
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So, Jacques, give us a
little bit of background
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I just want to let
our Viewers know that
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I had heard about your testimony
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through our mutual
friend, Mike Carducci,
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who is with
'Coming Out' Ministries
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and he said, "You have to hear
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Jacques Laguerre...
you need to meet him... "
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and he and his
ministry did some work on
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"Pure Choices"
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and... so he said, "You need
to have him on the Program... "
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so, I thought,
"Wow, I need to have him
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on Urban Report as well... "
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so, I'm so glad
that you're with us...
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thank you so much
for being with us...
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Thank you for having me...
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So, give us a little
bit about your background...
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tell us a little bit
about where you came from...
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I'm the third and last child of
a Seventh-day Adventist Pastor
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he's been a pastor
for about 35 years now...
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You're a PK... Pastor's Kid...
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PK, yeah, that's me...
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Okay, and where did you grow up?
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I grew up actually in
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Massachusetts and Rhode Island,
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in that area, you know,
because my dad... being a pastor
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kind of... moving churches...
around... in those two states...
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I think that people
don't really understand
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the demands on a pastor's child
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or the pastor's family...
the wife... the children...
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I mean, it's got
to be so difficult...
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moving from place to
place and meeting new people
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tell us some of the challenges
that you have as a PK...
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I'd say, the moving
around... it wasn't too bad...
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for me personally...
just because I had...
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I didn't really have
trouble making friends...
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but I'd say the hardest
part about being a pastor's kid
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is the expectation...
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you don't expect a doctor's kid
to know how to perform surgery
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but for some reason...
people expect pastors' kids
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to be perfect children
that do everything in accordance
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with the Bible and
Spirit of Prophecy...
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and so, very early on... I
felt like I had to choose...
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whether I want to
serve God fully...
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or whether I wanted to
live up to the stereotype of
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"Pastors' kids are the worst".
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Wow! that's an
interesting place to be...
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if you have to
make a choice as to
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whether you want to
invest yourself totally into
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the stereotype or into
what God would have you do...
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correct? Hmmm...
hmmm... yes, yes, yes...
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What did you decide?
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Well, early on, I
decided wrongly...
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and I definitely fell to
the stereotype of pastors' kids
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being rebellious and
not wanting to conform
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to the Word of God...
and so, I kind of chose
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the path more frequently
traveled by pastors' kids...
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So, tell us what
happened in your life...
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how did you go
from being that PK
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and trying to do the
right thing even though you were
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kind of going to the
"left" it sounds like...
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how did you end up
really falling into sin?
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Well, it started when I was
about 10 years old, actually,
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and I was exposed to
some explicit material
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on the computer...
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and I don't really remember
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where my parents were...
or where my family was...
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our computer
was in the main room
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it was in the family room...
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but while I was just surfing
the internet... I came across
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nothing that
would incite any sort of
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concern by most people...
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it was just a
woman in a bikini...
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and to a
10-year-old mind... it just...
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my mind just
gravitated to that image...
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and so, from there, I then
got introduced to pornography
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by my friend... we
went over to his house
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to work on a project...
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and that was kind of
the catalyst that began
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my slide into sin...
sexual sin to be more specific.
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So, you were about 10... when...
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when it started...
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Yes, yes, I was
around 10 years old...
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You know, it's
interesting Jacques because
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so often, we as
parents aren't monitoring...
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and this is not an
indictment of your parents,
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I'm saying... in general...
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we often don't know
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what our children are
looking at on the computer...
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we kind of let them go
and play on the computer
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and we think that
everything is all good...
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Hmmm... hmmm... but
there are so many images
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that, as you just stated,
it was just a woman in a bikini
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which by all
intents and purposes
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maybe might not have stimulated
someone else... but for you...
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it was the
beginning of that descent...
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It was the
beginning... hmmm... hmmm...
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so, my point is
that... as parents
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we have to really
monitor our children
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and really make sure that...
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maybe put some safeguards
on the computer or something
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that kind of avoid
these forays into pornography
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because it happens and
it happens gradually...
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and it happens insidiously
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and then our children
are hung up with images
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that they cannot get rid of...
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I guess the interesting thing
about protecting the children is
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that... they've done
studies where they've shown
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grown men above the age of 25...
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that had never been
exposed to pornography...
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sexually, explicit material...
and they were disgusted by it...
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and so there's something
that happens with the brain
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that... during
your childhood years
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when your brain is still
forming you see pornography...
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and it's instantly addictive...
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but if you've had the
chance to develop mentally,
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spiritually and cognitively...
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then, even if you're exposed
to it later on in life...
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it's not going to
take you by surprise...
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you're going to
be disgusted by it...
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That's a very interesting point,
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so the young mind
that's not fully formed yet...
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is much more susceptible
to the impact of it...
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than the adult
mind that can say...
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"Oh, this is
disgusting... " Hmmm... hmmm...
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that's a very interesting point,
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that's one of the reasons why
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using Marijuana
in the teen years
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also is so detrimental
because the frontal lobes
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just aren't fully developed yet
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the frontal lobe of the
brain is not fully developed
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and all kinds of
problems ensue...
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so, it's really important to
guard the avenues of the soul
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basically... because if we don't
all these images and things
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really can take
control of the young mind...
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and the older mind too...
but the young mind particularly.
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So, you found
yourself with your friend...
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you got into pornography,
and how old were you...
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when you really were
at your peak of addiction
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with pornography?
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Well, I can't really say
that that there was a peak
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just because of the
nature of any addiction...
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it just gets worse and
worse and worse and worse...
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and so, I'd say I was
at my peak in my 20s...
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by this time I had been watching
pornography for over a decade
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and so, just like with any other
of drug... you need something
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we need more
usage... and just need things
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that are a
little less conventional
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to get the same response...
physically and mentally
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and so, I'd say,
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right before I
gave my life to Christ
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it was my midnight hour...
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I could see the
effects of pornography
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killing me in ways that I
could not... when I just began.
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Such as... unpack it
a little bit for us...
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To unpack it a
little bit... just...
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my view of women in general
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my idea for why God created sex
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because I think we
forget that sometimes
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that pornography and all these
things are just the perversion
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of something beautiful
that God created... and so,
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I had been so educated by
pornography and by the media
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and by the music that I
didn't even really understand
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God's beautiful,
initial intention for sex...
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I couldn't really connect
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with people because
you're always hiding something
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so you really can't be
open, you can't be honest,
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I could never have a
relationship with a woman
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I had tried several times but
things just kind of collapsed
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just because I wasn't
emotionally available...
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I wasn't all there...
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it was just
killing me emotionally...
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and like I said,
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I couldn't see that "beginning"
because I had just begun
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but as I had continued to
indulge, indulge, indulge...
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and to put things into my brain
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that were more
bizarre and more crazy
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it began to change me a lot more
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and I was beginning
to see the effects...
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To me, it's so fascinating
how the enemy works...
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he starts you off
with one little picture
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and then... there's
this... just downward spiral
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you take in more
and more and more...
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and it's more depravity
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just consistently going
downward that's his plan...
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just as God has a
plan to prosper us
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and to give us a
future and a hope...
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Satan's plan is to destroy
us and to use our weaknesses
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against us... so,
he started with you
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with that one image and then,
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little by little over time
you found that you were just
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being more and more drawn to it
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and it was changing
your perception of women,
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changing your
perception of sex...
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because sex is a holy thing
when in the context of marriage
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It is...
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but outside of the
context of marriage...
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it's not meant to be outside
of the context of marriage
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so it's amazing to me
how the enemy just chips away
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chips away at you... and
finds ways to draw you into
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further away from
God and isolate you
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because it sounds to
me as though you became
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rather isolated...
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were you introverted as
a result of the addiction?
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Well, I'm naturally
introverted. Okay...
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And so the pornography addiction
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made it that much worse
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we can read in an amazing
book I had a chance to read...
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on the psychological
effects of pornography...
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"Wired for Intimacy"
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that pornography is
even that much more dangerous
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for people that are highly
introverted... like myself
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because naturally you don't
like putting yourself out there
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for the awkwardness...
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sometimes the nervousness
of meeting women in real life
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and so pornography even
attaches to your brain even more
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and it's some place
where you feel safe...
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secure... even
though it's a false "safe"
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it's a false security...
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that's something
that kind of draws...
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kind of draws at your
personality a little bit more
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than someone who is
highly extroverted...
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That's very interesting...
you also mentioned the music...
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the music also was having a
detrimental effect on you...
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tell us a little
bit about that...
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what kind of music
were you listening to?
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Well, some of my friends
have called me a "cosmopolin"
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I don't feel bound by
culture, by nationality,
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by skin color or by anything...
and so, I like all music...
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I used to listened to hip hop...
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R and B... I used
to listened to Salsa...
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Merengue... I used to
listen to some Country
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I used to listen to Techno...
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I used to listen to
music across all genres...
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and the theme of a
woman being an object...
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even though it
might be presented
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a little bit more harshly...
in hip hop and R and B
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and things of that nature...
the image that God has for women
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is not present in
any of those genres...
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if you to listen to them...
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and so I was just getting
different doses of sin...
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depending on what genre
I decided to listen to...
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and you know, the lyrics,
the way that women are presented
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just the words that are
used to describe them...
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it's just not something
that was holy and uplifting...
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and even if the
song wasn't degrading
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and it was just presenting
sex in a beautiful light...
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that's not something
that I needed to be hearing
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as a single man... a teenager...
with my hormones raging...
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I didn't need to throw
any gasoline... on a fire...
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so that's why
I've kind of had to cut
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all that music out of my life...
when I gave my life to Christ
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He gave me the power to do
it because, if I had held on...
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to that music...
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and I'm trying to
search the Bible...
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I'm trying to search
the Spirit of Prophecy...
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I would have been
pulled in two directions...
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and usually when
someone is having that fight
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where they are feeling
both the Spirit and the flesh
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the flesh tends to win
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because that's our
natural disposition...
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That's right... And so
God... God has shown me
00:14:09.34\00:14:12.92
in numerous
ways... whether it was...
00:14:12.96\00:14:15.29
watching sermons on audioverse
00:14:15.32\00:14:17.71
or YouTube or whether I
was watching something on 3ABN
00:14:17.74\00:14:20.91
that everything had to pass the
00:14:20.95\00:14:24.23
Philippians 4 verse 8
test... if it's not pure...
00:14:24.27\00:14:26.42
if it's not
true... if it's not holy...
00:14:26.45\00:14:27.89
if it's not bringing
me closer to Christ...
00:14:27.92\00:14:30.24
then it had to go...
00:14:30.27\00:14:32.41
and that's a
decision I had to make...
00:14:32.44\00:14:33.83
it was a hard one... and
the devil definitely knew
00:14:33.87\00:14:37.67
what he was doing...
because one week, I believe,
00:14:37.70\00:14:41.46
after I decided to
make that commitment...
00:14:41.50\00:14:43.55
one of my favorite artists came
out... with his new album...
00:14:43.58\00:14:47.55
I had been waiting
for... for over 6 months...
00:14:47.58\00:14:50.38
and so, I had to make a
decision... one weekend...
00:14:50.42\00:14:53.14
whether I'd make an exception
for an artist that I appreciated
00:14:53.18\00:14:56.66
and luckily... Christ
gave me the strength...
00:14:56.69\00:14:59.92
to not download that album
00:14:59.95\00:15:02.76
and that was one
of the best decisions
00:15:02.79\00:15:05.02
that I've ever made...
and I've never looked back...
00:15:05.06\00:15:07.02
Amen... that is awesome...
00:15:07.06\00:15:09.85
What was it that made you
decide to come to Christ...
00:15:09.88\00:15:15.82
to turn your life over to Him...
00:15:15.85\00:15:17.77
what happened in
your life that made you...
00:15:17.80\00:15:20.76
that influenced you...
in making that decision?
00:15:20.79\00:15:23.72
Well, that's kind of a
00:15:23.75\00:15:25.63
complicated question...
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I may have to back
up a couple of years...
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if that's
okay... Sure... sure...
00:15:29.29\00:15:33.00
So I spent 2 years at Andrews...
00:15:33.04\00:15:36.69
and I did relatively
okay scholastically...
00:15:36.72\00:15:40.05
I didn't get the grades
that I could have gotten...
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because I was
distracted... you know...
00:15:42.39\00:15:44.10
by sexual sin and by alcohol...
00:15:44.13\00:15:47.75
and by... a good time...
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I heard about Marijuana
that's when I got introduced to
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to Marijuana and Tobacco and
all these different things...
00:15:52.07\00:15:54.69
but I didn't do that terribly
00:15:54.73\00:15:58.05
that I could see the effect
that it had... on my life...
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it was only when I transferred
to another Adventist Institution
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where I didn't know
anyone because my friends...
00:16:04.43\00:16:07.03
I had a really good group
of friends... at Andrews...
00:16:07.06\00:16:10.25
that were really spiritual...
00:16:10.28\00:16:12.50
and so they kind
of kept me in line...
00:16:12.54\00:16:14.89
but I hung out
behind closed doors
00:16:14.93\00:16:17.24
with a bad crowd as well...
00:16:17.28\00:16:18.67
and so, my good friends
kind of kept me at bay...
00:16:18.70\00:16:23.64
but when I
transferred to Southern...
00:16:23.67\00:16:26.03
I didn't know anyone there...
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and so, I just met
all the other rebels
00:16:27.15\00:16:29.68
that were upset that they
had to be at an Adventist School
00:16:29.72\00:16:32.74
and I got into so many
different things at Southern...
00:16:32.78\00:16:35.77
because of my lifestyle...
00:16:35.80\00:16:37.73
I was arrested
twice that semester...
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I failed every single class...
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except for
Snowboarding, I believe...
00:16:43.98\00:16:46.66
and Horseback Riding...
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That's not funny but...
00:16:48.68\00:16:50.57
I'm sure your parents
didn't send you to Southern
00:16:50.61\00:16:54.11
for Snowboarding and
Horseback Riding alone...
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No, that's not what
they sent me for at all...
00:16:56.94\00:17:00.38
I was just being
bad... yeah, yeah, yeah...
00:17:00.41\00:17:03.78
I can laugh about it now,
I can laugh about it now...
00:17:03.81\00:17:06.94
Yeah... And so after all that...
00:17:06.98\00:17:10.19
I then decided...
00:17:10.23\00:17:12.62
after Southern asked
me not to come back...
00:17:12.66\00:17:14.48
because I failed about every
single class like I said earlier
00:17:14.52\00:17:17.15
I decided to join the army...
00:17:17.18\00:17:19.69
and so I enlisted in
the United States Army
00:17:19.73\00:17:23.38
and I joined on
November 16, 2011...
00:17:23.41\00:17:27.12
and so, I was... you know,
00:17:27.16\00:17:29.86
I was just living
the typical life...
00:17:29.89\00:17:31.86
and the things
that made me a rebel...
00:17:31.89\00:17:33.62
at Andrews and Southern...
just made me normal in the army
00:17:33.66\00:17:38.23
I was now a small
fish in a big pond...
00:17:38.27\00:17:42.26
where the latter had been true
at an Adventist Institution...
00:17:42.29\00:17:46.26
and so, I began to even get
further and further into sin...
00:17:46.29\00:17:50.71
more alcohol, pornography was
something that was joked about
00:17:50.74\00:17:54.80
in the Adventist
culture at both Schools...
00:17:54.84\00:17:57.58
it wasn't something
that you would talk about
00:17:57.62\00:18:00.29
even though you knew your
friends might be watching it...
00:18:00.32\00:18:02.95
sometimes, you might
find something on the computer
00:18:02.99\00:18:05.76
and you would just
have to close it...
00:18:05.79\00:18:07.52
so that you guys wouldn't have
to have the awkward conversation
00:18:07.56\00:18:10.73
but in the
Military... I was Combat Arms...
00:18:10.76\00:18:14.54
and so there were no females...
00:18:14.58\00:18:16.05
it was just a
male-dominated culture
00:18:16.08\00:18:18.40
and so people would
joke about pornography
00:18:18.44\00:18:20.69
and all these different things,
sleeping around and alcohol...
00:18:20.72\00:18:23.67
and drug use...
00:18:23.70\00:18:24.92
and so I got even
deeper into that lifestyle
00:18:24.96\00:18:27.50
even to the point where I
began soliciting prostitutes
00:18:27.54\00:18:31.11
and all these different
things were going on in my life
00:18:31.15\00:18:34.74
and I just kind of saw as a
00:18:34.77\00:18:36.71
natural
progression of growing up...
00:18:36.75\00:18:38.34
but the devil was roping me
in more and more and more...
00:18:38.37\00:18:42.54
and so, it was
kind of looking back
00:18:42.57\00:18:45.35
and seeing how I
had destroyed my life
00:18:45.38\00:18:48.13
and how far I had gone...
00:18:48.17\00:18:49.90
but there was one
night in particular
00:18:49.93\00:18:53.40
that kind of awakened
me to my spiritual lethargy
00:18:53.44\00:18:57.00
it was the Super
Bowl I think 2012...
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and my friend... we
had been at his house
00:19:01.40\00:19:04.81
we were all drinking...
00:19:04.84\00:19:05.95
we were all having, what
we thought, was a good time
00:19:05.98\00:19:09.10
and my friend's wife...
after the Super Bowl was over...
00:19:09.14\00:19:12.16
she asked that we play a game,
00:19:12.19\00:19:15.16
and we had been, you
know, drinking a lot of alcohol
00:19:15.19\00:19:18.31
and just finding
00:19:18.35\00:19:20.29
interesting ways to
destroy our bodies with alcohol
00:19:20.33\00:19:23.06
and so I thought that she was
going to come up with some new
00:19:23.10\00:19:27.40
innovative way... to drink...
00:19:27.43\00:19:29.64
and she suggested
that we play a game
00:19:29.68\00:19:31.96
where you conjure up a spirit...
00:19:31.99\00:19:35.08
Wow! and, yes, yes, yes... and
00:19:35.11\00:19:38.25
up unto this point,
like I told you earlier,
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I had done a lot of things
that I knew to be wrong...
00:19:40.28\00:19:43.49
I might not be
able to quote a verse...
00:19:43.52\00:19:47.84
but I knew it was wrong...
00:19:47.88\00:19:48.95
but me being from a
Haitian background...
00:19:48.99\00:19:52.09
I was very
familiar with... with occult
00:19:52.13\00:19:55.33
and my father tells me stories
00:19:55.36\00:19:56.92
about different voodoo priests
00:19:56.95\00:19:58.59
in Haiti and all
these different things...
00:19:58.63\00:20:00.18
and so, when she said that...
00:20:00.22\00:20:02.38
I kind of got
serious really quickly...
00:20:02.42\00:20:04.55
and my friend who I
hung out with all the time...
00:20:04.59\00:20:08.87
because we were really close,
00:20:08.90\00:20:10.27
he had never seen me take
a moral stand on anything...
00:20:10.30\00:20:14.15
and so, when he saw
that... he started talking to me
00:20:14.19\00:20:18.17
and I began to tell him
certain texts that Adventists...
00:20:18.20\00:20:22.15
we love to use... like,
00:20:22.19\00:20:23.40
"The living know that they shall
die but the dead know nothing"
00:20:23.44\00:20:26.15
and I began to tell him,
00:20:26.19\00:20:28.00
"Don't you know what
she's trying to do...
00:20:28.03\00:20:29.58
she's trying to invite demons"
00:20:29.61\00:20:31.11
and I started telling
him that there are angels
00:20:31.14\00:20:34.31
and the great controversy
00:20:34.35\00:20:35.67
and this is all
while I'm drunk, mind you,
00:20:35.71\00:20:38.24
looks like... Proverbs knew
what it was talking about...
00:20:38.28\00:20:40.90
when it said, "Train up a
child in the way he should go:
00:20:40.93\00:20:43.26
and when he is old, he
will not depart from it"
00:20:43.30\00:20:44.41
Yes... and so I
began to explain to him
00:20:44.45\00:20:46.17
the great controversy and
all these different things
00:20:46.21\00:20:49.68
and I was supposed to
sleep at that house...
00:20:49.72\00:20:51.61
she brought it up
again, and again, and again...
00:20:51.65\00:20:54.88
she brought it up 3 times,
00:20:54.91\00:20:56.00
and eventually,
she looked at the clock
00:20:56.04\00:20:58.20
and the time that you had
to start the game had passed...
00:20:58.23\00:21:01.36
and so, she kind of dropped it,
00:21:01.40\00:21:03.00
and so we stayed up
for a little bit longer...
00:21:03.04\00:21:05.62
and then,
everybody goes to sleep...
00:21:05.66\00:21:08.90
now, I had been in the Military
for over a year, at this point,
00:21:08.93\00:21:13.52
and I had slept in so
many different places...
00:21:13.56\00:21:15.85
I have slept in
the beds of trucks...
00:21:15.88\00:21:20.01
I've slept in parking lots...
I've slept in dirt holes...
00:21:20.04\00:21:23.36
I've slept everywhere...
00:21:23.40\00:21:24.90
and now, I'm on a really nice
soft couch and I can't sleep...
00:21:24.94\00:21:31.86
and I felt like...
someone was watching me...
00:21:31.90\00:21:34.85
or something was
watching me, and so, that night,
00:21:34.88\00:21:40.33
I just decided
to take my chances
00:21:40.37\00:21:42.58
and just drive back
to my barracks room...
00:21:42.61\00:21:44.60
and from there...
00:21:44.63\00:21:46.53
my brother...
he sent me the link
00:21:46.56\00:21:48.75
to Roger Morneau's documentary,
"A Trip into the Supernatural"
00:21:48.79\00:21:52.58
and after watching
that documentary...
00:21:52.62\00:21:55.37
I think it was maybe an
hour and a half or two hours
00:21:55.41\00:21:57.81
the spiritual world and
00:21:57.84\00:22:00.96
my passions became
really, really apparent...
00:22:01.00\00:22:04.67
and that's when the Holy
Spirit started to reach me...
00:22:04.70\00:22:06.99
and so, a couple of days later,
00:22:07.02\00:22:09.43
I officially
surrendered my life to Christ...
00:22:09.46\00:22:14.62
Wow! that is
amazing... God is a friend...
00:22:14.65\00:22:19.24
that is amazing...
that God... you know...
00:22:19.27\00:22:23.39
God keeps His hand on
us Jacques doesn't He?
00:22:23.43\00:22:27.21
He does... He does...
00:22:27.25\00:22:28.41
He didn't let you
get... but so far...
00:22:28.44\00:22:30.95
and then... somebody said,
00:22:30.98\00:22:32.41
one of my friends
who is a pastor said...
00:22:32.45\00:22:34.37
God is like a giant
fisherman, you know,
00:22:34.40\00:22:36.25
He lets you kind of go out...
and then he reels you back in...
00:22:36.29\00:22:39.12
and it seems like... I
mean, we have to respond...
00:22:39.15\00:22:41.83
you know, it's our choice...
00:22:41.86\00:22:43.01
but He knows how
to reel us back in
00:22:43.04\00:22:46.45
and that idea... that
your friend's wife had
00:22:46.48\00:22:50.93
about conjuring up spirits...
she crossed the line with you...
00:22:50.97\00:22:54.20
That's what it sounds
like... she crossed the line...
00:22:54.23\00:22:57.43
and the Holy Spirit was showing
you... this is how it gets...
00:22:57.47\00:23:02.18
this is how low you can get...
if you get away from me...
00:23:02.21\00:23:06.89
and so, you gave
your life to the Lord...
00:23:06.92\00:23:11.30
and you're now
doing... "Genesis of Purity"
00:23:11.33\00:23:15.64
tell us about your
ministry, what is that about?
00:23:15.68\00:23:18.06
Okay, well, it
actually came about
00:23:18.10\00:23:21.48
rather spontaneously...
it kind of came by in 2 parts
00:23:21.52\00:23:24.49
I forgot who the
author of this book is...
00:23:24.53\00:23:27.78
but it's called
"Correlated Bible Readings"
00:23:27.82\00:23:31.01
and it pairs the Bible
with the Spirit of Prophecy
00:23:31.04\00:23:33.87
through the whole
Conflict of the Ages series...
00:23:33.91\00:23:36.71
and so, it's a
really bright pink book...
00:23:36.74\00:23:40.12
you really can't miss it
00:23:40.15\00:23:41.21
and they have three
plans inside of this book
00:23:41.24\00:23:44.77
one-year,
two-years and four-years
00:23:44.80\00:23:46.38
where you can read the Bible
00:23:46.42\00:23:48.19
in conjunction
00:23:48.23\00:23:49.85
with the corresponding books
from the Spirit of Prophecy
00:23:49.88\00:23:52.58
and so, I decided to do
that... and so, of course,
00:23:52.61\00:23:56.81
I started in the book of Genesis
00:23:56.85\00:23:58.07
and as I was reading
the book of Genesis...
00:23:58.11\00:24:01.49
I saw that there
were so many stories
00:24:01.52\00:24:04.87
of people's relationships
00:24:04.91\00:24:06.30
both healthy and unhealthy,
and like... Adam and Eve...
00:24:06.33\00:24:09.77
and then you
have Cain and Abel...
00:24:09.80\00:24:11.12
and then you have
00:24:11.15\00:24:12.29
Abraham, Isaac and Jacob...
00:24:12.32\00:24:14.29
and their 3
wives... and all the drama...
00:24:14.33\00:24:16.45
that ensued...
00:24:16.48\00:24:17.69
and then you
have the sons of Jacob
00:24:17.72\00:24:20.39
which have all sorts of
relationship drama... as well
00:24:20.42\00:24:23.63
and as I was reading...
and studying this book in-depth
00:24:23.67\00:24:26.84
along with the
Spirit of Prophecy,
00:24:26.88\00:24:28.12
I saw men... even men of faith
and even people who have...
00:24:28.15\00:24:35.33
tribes named after them
and who will have their names
00:24:35.36\00:24:39.06
etched on all the
gates of the New Jerusalem...
00:24:39.09\00:24:41.98
when it came to
opposite-sex relations...
00:24:42.02\00:24:44.62
they just seemed to not
really have any guidance...
00:24:44.65\00:24:48.20
Hmmm... and so...
00:24:48.24\00:24:51.10
I've always loved giving
people relationship advice...
00:24:51.13\00:24:53.92
before I gave my life to
Christ it was terrible advice
00:24:53.96\00:24:58.00
but I always enjoyed giving
people advice on relationships
00:24:58.03\00:25:01.79
and so, I started to
jot down some notes...
00:25:01.82\00:25:05.20
on different
topics... and different seminars
00:25:05.23\00:25:08.54
I could potentially give...
when I got out of the Military,
00:25:08.57\00:25:11.73
and as I started to do
this... my notebook became
00:25:11.77\00:25:16.04
more full and full
and full and full...
00:25:16.08\00:25:18.48
to where I now I probably have
maybe 50 or 60 presentations...
00:25:18.52\00:25:22.87
that I still need to work
on but I have all the ideas...
00:25:22.90\00:25:26.43
I've worked on
maybe 20 so far...
00:25:26.47\00:25:27.99
and so, I thought of
the name "Genesis of Purity"
00:25:28.02\00:25:31.07
just because of
where God had taken me
00:25:31.11\00:25:33.52
and I kind of felt
like Paul in a way...
00:25:33.56\00:25:36.18
1 Timothy 4 verse
9... when he says,
00:25:36.22\00:25:38.78
"This is a faithful saying,
and worthy of all acceptation
00:25:38.81\00:25:42.36
Christ Jesus came to save
sinners of which I am chief... "
00:25:42.40\00:25:46.15
and so, Christ wanted to
show the extent of His grace...
00:25:46.19\00:25:49.91
through Paul... and I
think that Christ wanted to show
00:25:49.94\00:25:53.87
the world the
extent of His grace
00:25:53.90\00:25:55.50
when it comes to
sexual sin through me...
00:25:55.54\00:25:57.23
and so, I wanted to be able
to share that with people...
00:25:57.27\00:26:00.17
and so, I just went
online and I checked if
00:26:00.21\00:26:03.16
Genesisofpurity. org was taken
and I just bought the URL...
00:26:03.19\00:26:07.04
Let's put your
website up by-the-way...
00:26:07.07\00:26:09.64
go ahead...
Okay... and I just bought
00:26:09.68\00:26:12.22
the URL... without even knowing
00:26:12.25\00:26:14.17
when I was going to
be out of the Military...
00:26:14.20\00:26:16.55
that this thing was
even going to take off...
00:26:16.58\00:26:18.90
I kind of just acted in faith...
00:26:18.93\00:26:20.69
and so, now I go to
schools and churches
00:26:20.72\00:26:24.57
and I share my
testimony but then...
00:26:24.60\00:26:28.38
I don't want to only tell
them only about how the devil
00:26:28.42\00:26:30.58
was able to drag
me... into the mud...
00:26:30.61\00:26:32.67
I want to tell them of how
Christ was able to take me out
00:26:32.71\00:26:36.10
and to clean me...
00:26:36.14\00:26:37.58
and I want to be
able to share with people
00:26:37.62\00:26:39.77
different principles...
00:26:39.81\00:26:41.29
that if you haven't
fallen into that life...
00:26:41.33\00:26:43.32
that you can use to prevent that
00:26:43.36\00:26:45.38
and different
things on relationships
00:26:45.42\00:26:47.15
and courtship and
seeking parental guidance
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and all these different things
that seem so old-fashioned...
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but what I always
tell young people...
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especially young women...
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I say, "Do you want to
be married for a long time?"
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and they say, "Yeah, I
want to be married for life... "
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I say, "Well
that's old-fashioned... "
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because people get
married for 6 months...
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a year... two
years... three years...
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and if you want
old-fashioned results...
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you have to use
old-fashioned methods
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and so... Genesis
of Purity is all about
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just going back to the book of
Genesis... where it all began...
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showing people the principles
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that can guide
your relationships
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so that their picture of
what they're supposed to be...
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you know, Ellen White says that,
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"Marriage is supposed to
be a foretaste of heaven"
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Hmmm... hmmm... and it is...
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it is just the
opposite for most people...
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I know...
because they don't apply
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the principles
found in the Scripture...
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and that's what
Genesis of Purity is all about.
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That is awesome... I
don't know where our time went
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but thank you so
much for being with us...
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we want the Lord to
just continue to bless you
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and thank you
Viewer, for tuning in...
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Make sure to tune in next
time because, you know what?
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It just wouldn't be
the same without you...
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