Wait till you see
who I ran into at ASI
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My name is Yvonne
Lewis and you're watching
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Urban Report...
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Hello and welcome
to Urban Report...
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My guest today is
Carmela Monk-Crawford
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the Editor-in-Chief
of Message Magazine...
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I ran into her at ASI
and she had some great things
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to say... Take a look...
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ASI is such a great
place and we are here
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in Grand Rapids,
Michigan... and I got to see...
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one of my friends
Carmela Monk-Crawford...
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Yeah... welcome
Carmela... Thank you Yvonne...
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Carmela is the Editor-in
Chief of Message Magazine
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and I have to tell
you that I love Carmela
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she is one of my favorite people
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she's doing such an
outstanding job and so...
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I've had her on
Urban Report before...
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but I wanted to
bring her on again...
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to talk about Message
and the various things
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that are going on there
because if you don't get
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Message Magazine you
are not in the "Know"
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am I right? I think so...
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in fact I think
that needs to be our new
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tag-line...
"What you need to know"
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Oh... on a Need-to-Know basis...
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something like that...
Yeah... yeah... yeah...
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or better yet...
like the Marvin Gaye song
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used to be...
"What's Going On... "
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or we're going to
tell you... I love it...
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What's going on... I love it...
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What's going
on... What's going on...
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and that's what you do
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at Message...
Message is so relevant
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I think that, you know,
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people who haven't seen
it, need to check it out
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it is so
relevant... I've been getting it
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and I love it...
because what you're doing is
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you're bringing to
us... you're making the gospel
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more relevant... you
know... more applicable
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so it's wonderful...
what is the process involved
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in bringing a story
to the Message Magazine?
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Oh, that's the
beauty of it, the story
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is what carries everything...
everybody wants to know
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the story... and the best
stories that are out there
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are the ones in which
the Lord has transformed
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someone's life... and
how the Lord has changed
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them from what they
used to be to something
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new and different
now and so we are always
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on the lookout for a
good story a good story
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of how God's
providence has worked
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in someone's life... His
provision in someone's life
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just the way things are working,
that what I'm in the mood for
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I think that really
scratches the itch...
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people need to see
that... we talked to someone
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just about 2 weeks
ago, it was very interesting
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she did a little taping
for us she had been in prison
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and she says, you know,
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"This is the kind of
thing I want to read...
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true stories...
nothing fictional...
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because... when you
look at the true stories...
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you can see how God
works in somebody's life
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and you can be just
like that person... "
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Absolutely...
that's the key, you know,
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if God did it for
them, He can do it for you...
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Absolutely... and
that's what people
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need to know... and to see...
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so that's what you
focus on in Message...
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but you have all
these different areas
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you have health...
tell us about the different
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areas that you
cover... Yes... we, you know,
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I'm proud of that
because it speaks to our mission
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our mission is that whole
person and we're putting that
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in Message... and
sometimes... it seems like
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it's very
methodical but there is
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a method to our
madness there's a reason
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why we're
sharing this with people
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and so every issue...
we are making sure that
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we're putting in those
vegetarian and vegan recipes
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and reminding people
or teaching a little bit
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this is why... I'm selecting
the plant-based product
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or the plant-based recipe
over the meat-based recipe
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this is why we're
selecting these different
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vegetables or fruits
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because they
provide these nutrients
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that your body needs...
and you're not going to get it
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anywhere else...
so with every issue...
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we're doing that...
every issue we're putting in
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information about the family...
how to make your family stronger
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wrestling with
some different issues
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we had a question
that's coming up very soon...
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the question of, you know,
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"What if my husband is
not the priest of the home...
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what am I supposed to
do... he's not doing his role...
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am I supposed to step in...
am I supposed to tell him...
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you know... you're supposed
to be doing family worship... "
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but very interesting questions
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the Olivers who
travel all around the world
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as the Family-Life Directors
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for the General Conference
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of Seventh-day Adventists
they are hearing that question
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from everybody... and so
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those are the kinds of
things that we're putting in
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that family... that health...
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prophecy is
always in there and that
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walk with Jesus
is always in there...
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and I think there's
something for everybody...
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so that whole thing with
the articles and the stories
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what you do is you just kind of
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present that holistic
approach so that people
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can have their needs met...
on all different levels...
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and that's what
Jesus did... isn't it?
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He met them at
their point of need...
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at all different levels,
whether they were hungry,
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whether they needed
healing, He did that
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and that's what
you're doing with Message...
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what's the vision for Message?
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That vision is...
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heavy on my heart...
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for Message... I
can tell you what
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I really would
like to see from this...
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Tell me... I'm
going to tell you this
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and maybe somebody
is going to hear this
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and they're going to bless us
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and help us and pray with us
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that this will happen...
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the Message we've
been for a while now
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and I can get you into
it a little bit later...
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about some of the
changes that are happening
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but where we go from here,
is going to be very important
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I would like to see us
closer to the Community
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for so long... many of
our publishing ventures
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have been out in
the Publishing House
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and it is time to be active
and involved in the Community
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and closer... be
in closer proximity...
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How so? I would love to see us
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in a Store-Front
downtown in a nice little block
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that has shops
and the restaurants
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people are there...
we can see people...
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we can talk to people...
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we sit in a
de-constructed office
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and we research...
and we go scope out
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those stories... we
write and we work together
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that's the message by day...
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by night... I
would love to see us have
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re-entry programs
right there in our space
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by night... I
would love to see us have
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"English as a
Second Language Program"
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by night... here's the
big thing that I would like...
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and, you know... this
is one of those things
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my mouth to God's ear...
that I would love the Lord...
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"Lord, help us to
figure out how to do this... "
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but by Friday night... I
would love to have a Program
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that a person who is going
down the block to the Jazz Club
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would be interested to
come and see the spoken Word
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they would want to
hear the spoken Word
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I should say... they
would want to see the
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beautiful movement in worship
that people are able to do
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they would love to
hear the beautiful music
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that we've grown up
with and the reason why
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it's so "beautiful" is
is because it's hope...
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music of hope...
music of that friend
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who will stick
closer than any brother...
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that's the kind of thing
that people need and want
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and that's what I'm
seeing for Message...
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a beautiful, holistic ministry,
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that is locked
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into the Community...
your ear to the ground
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doing what needs to be
done... I'm loving that...
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because...
here... you're telling me
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that you're actually wanting to
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venture out
beyond the scope of the
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printing world and
actually do some other things
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in the Community
that would draw people
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to the Lord...
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and, of course, have them
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you know, get
Message Magazine as well...
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Oh yeah... but you
have Message by day
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and Message by
night... I'm loving this
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so, now you're not just
talking about a Magazine
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now you're
talking about ministering
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and more action to the Community
and letting them come in
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and hear Programs
and watch Programs...
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Yes... that's wonderful!
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it's the same thing that
we would offer in the pages
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that you can come
in and experience it...
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and that's what so
many people want...
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they need to have a
place to experience it
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we're going to go...
digital... Digital First...
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Okay... Just to
get your magazine
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it will be Digital First
and so we have new information
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coming through
on a regular basis
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and so we are
looking at all the time...
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at this point, we need writers,
we need photographers...
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we need videographers...
we need camera talent...
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we're hoping that
people will come and say
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"Hey, I can do this for you... "
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and we have one
couple that says, you know,
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we're going across the Country
from Georgia over to Las Vegas
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we can stop and we want to stop
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and talk about the
beautiful places where you can
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hike with your
family... beautiful places
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where you can sit down
and absorb with your children
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all the creation
that God has to offer...
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so, we're going to do
it... it is going to...
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like the kids say...
"blow up any minute now"
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it's an interesting
experience in the meantime...
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that is about to
happen... I love that...
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you know what I love?
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one of the things that
I love about you Carmela
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is that you have vision
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you think outside of the
box you're not just looking at
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one aspect of things
but you're really trying to
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take this to a whole
other place and with that
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you can draw on the talent
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that we have within
this Church, you're saying...
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you need
writers... tell us again...
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you need writers... We
need writers, photographers,
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the content providers
that's what these writers are
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I'm looking for
people who will provide video
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for us and people who
will provide the background
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like you have here at
3ABN... people who are doing
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the video... not only the taping
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but the people who are
editing and everything like this
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we need all of it... so,
because this is going to be
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a holistic kind of
offering people could jump in
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at any point... if
it's just the audio...
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you want to participate in
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if you want to read this
if you want to watch a video
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that's what we're going to do...
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And is this on
a voluntary basis?
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You need
volunteers? You're right...
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we need volunteers...
there are people out there
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that's what I'm seeing...
and what is interesting is that
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that people are
coming out of the woodwork
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to offer their talents...
they want to participate
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people want to share their faith
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and people want to talk
about how the Lord has done
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something for them and
this is a great opportunity
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let us be your
platform together we're
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sharing the message...
and that's why we're in a...
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I love to come and talk with you
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we're in a partnership
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we're all doing the same
thing, Oh, so, you have like a
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new partnership
going on... Yes...
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with new folks who are
offering their services
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and wanting to do more...
Do more... and we need it...
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we need it... there's
room... when you go...
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from a bi-monthly magazine
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to a 24/7 365-day...
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there is room for you
to put in your portion...
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your contribution...
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I'm going to... So,
you're getting ready to do
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a Daily... Yes...
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Wow! all right...
did you hear this?
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I mean... I want
our viewers to know...
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this is a major thing
that Carmela is telling us now,
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this is a real transition,
Oh, it's a major overhaul...
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you're talking about...
from a bi-monthly... to a daily,
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Yes... Digital...
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Daily Digital...
yes... new content everyday...
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and that's a big deal for us...
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because we're moving
away from the publishing model
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that we've been in...
yet it's still publishing...
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this is still
publishing... the good news...
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it's just coming in...
you're getting all those senses
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that are engaged... Right...
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It's happening
24/7 just like we see
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and we are
engaged with now, so...
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I know the 365
24/7 because that's
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Dare to Dream... 365... 24/7...
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you have to have
content... Right...
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and so, and there are so
many gifted people out there
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that want to do
something... Absolutely...
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so how can they...
what's the process involved...
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how can they reach
you... if they have submissions
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Easy... easy...
what do they need to do?
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Reach me at MessageMagazine.
com that's all you have to do
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MessageMagazine.
com you can e-mail me...
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Carmela, I've got a great story,
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Carmela, I'm going
to provide devotional,
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I'm want to do an
interview with this person,
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Carmela, I'm
watching the news today...
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and I have some thoughts,
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and I can interview this person
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and put this
person together for you,
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I really want that... and
I'm looking forward to that,
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See, that's wonderful... Carmela
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I think so... and
it's going to be great...
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That's huge... that's huge...
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so you're looking
to... let's kind of recap...
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you're looking to go
into a Community-based Space
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and you're also
looking for additional talent
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writers,
videographers, all of that...
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Yes... yes... and
they can contact you
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at MessageMagazine.
com And if you know that
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Community-based
Space... it's going to take
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a little while before
we can get to that point
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but right now...
the Digital Overhaul...
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that's happening right now...
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so I'm really
looking forward to it...
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There are so many transitions
that are taking place
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in Publishing in North America,
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tell us about what's
going on... Absolutely...
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Oh, absolutely... first
of all... what's happening
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to us... is what's
happening to the whole world
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of publishing...
printing right now...
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many magazines and newspapers
have had to make adjustments
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with the way they do
business... for example...
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I started out as a
Newspaper Reporter...
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in that city where
they have those newspapers
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now it is... that city
has, you know, a conglomerate
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of different
reporters in their digital purse
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and so.. in Huntsville,
Alabama they have Alabama. com
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right here in Grand
Rapids, they have "MLive" or
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"Michigan Live"
where they've come together
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and they've
consolidated their resources...
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and they go digital first
and put out that newspaper
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that they used to put out
six to seven days a week...
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only three times a week
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so, these are some of the
changes that we have to watch
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because people are going
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to their Tablet
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to get their news
they're going to the
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television to get their
news, or their information
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that they want it may
not necessarily be news
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there's just so many
different avenues of information
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and so the "way of
print" many people say,
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"print is dead" I
don't believe print is dead
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print will always be
there especially the print that
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we're doing because no
one else is doing that...
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and I do believe
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I do believe that print
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is important...
How is it important?
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what you read...
you need that hard copy
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because it goes into
your brain differently...
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you need that hard
copy and we understand
00:14:51.64\00:14:54.13
that in the last days
people will be convicted
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of the truth...
when you are convicted
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not only
spiritually but intellectually
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which means... you have
absorbed this information
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your mind has had a
chance to wrestle with it...
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you're even looking at the
logic and the consistencies
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in it... and
whether or not this...
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you're struggling
with the information
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as the Holy
Spirit is convicting you
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I believe the printed
page has a part in that
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and so... print is not
dead, we're just changing
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and so... just like
the rest of North America
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what's happening in
our publishing is changing
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and so, we're consolidating,
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to my understanding,
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we're consolidating...
and so we have one Press
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doing the printing right
now the "Review and Herald"
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is the oldest institution of
the Seventh-day Adventist Church
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where the Seventh-day
Adventist Church was...
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there was the Review and Herald,
but the Review and Herald
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is different now... so
many of the people that
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worked there... their
ministries there will end
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for right now...
which is a sad thing...
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it's been a very...
it's a time that we are
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wrestling and
grieving the loss of that...
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Yes... However,
the ministry goes on
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so many of our
books and publications
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will continue at the Pacific
Press Publishing Association
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the Review and Herald
name will continue at the
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General Conference and
we're going to keep going on
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Message Magazine in particular,
we pray, and we believe
00:16:13.99\00:16:18.05
will continue to go on
because we are one of the
00:16:18.09\00:16:20.22
remaining
missionary or evangelistic
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tools in the hands of
Seventh-day Adventists today
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Yes... I believe
that... I believe that...
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so, really... this is
huge, because Review and Herald
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is basically shutting
down, for the most part,
00:16:33.20\00:16:36.31
it's printed aspects... Yes...
00:16:36.35\00:16:38.63
are they going to do
more digital things too?
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or... The Plant
there in Hagerstown,
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Maryland... it is
the plan right now
00:16:43.93\00:16:46.10
as I'm talking to you...
who knows what will happen
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if something
will happen different
00:16:48.88\00:16:50.21
but the plan is, now,
to shut that Plant down
00:16:50.24\00:16:53.18
in Hagerstown, Maryland,
and many of those people
00:16:53.22\00:16:56.28
their ministries there
will be finished for right now
00:16:56.32\00:16:59.94
with that particular
thing but the Review and Herald
00:16:59.98\00:17:03.71
there are several other
magazines that are published
00:17:03.74\00:17:06.69
at the General Conference,
they will continue on...
00:17:06.72\00:17:09.52
you've got the Adventist
Review and Adventist World,
00:17:09.55\00:17:12.31
Liberty Magazine,
Ministry, Elders' Digest,
00:17:12.34\00:17:15.93
all of those
things will continue
00:17:15.96\00:17:17.61
and so... and we
hope to be part of that
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with the North America
Division. Yes... absolutely...
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so, this is very interesting
because what I've seen
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with the way God works
and I'm sure you have too...
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is that... when one
door closes, another opens...
00:17:31.41\00:17:35.12
because you know
that Message is His...
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Oh yes... and so...
He's got a plan for it
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you know that... so
where this door with
00:17:41.15\00:17:43.57
Review and Herald
might be closing...
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God is going to open
up so many other doors...
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and it sounds to me
with your vision of the
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Day Message and Night
Message I love that kind of...
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I get excited about
that... that's evangelism
00:17:56.03\00:17:58.91
that's working at
the grassroots level
00:17:58.94\00:18:01.48
to really make a
difference... That's my hope...
00:18:01.52\00:18:03.86
that's my prayer... absolutely,
and it is a hard time
00:18:03.90\00:18:07.55
because we've
been... I've worked at the
00:18:07.59\00:18:10.22
Review and Herald
now... as in a total of 7 years
00:18:10.25\00:18:12.66
where I've been
there in that Plant,
00:18:12.70\00:18:14.05
and there is a beauty
00:18:14.08\00:18:15.94
to serving the
Lord in that environment
00:18:15.97\00:18:17.95
and atmosphere... so
we've all had to wrestle with
00:18:17.99\00:18:21.02
you know, what does this
mean... for our ministry...
00:18:21.06\00:18:24.68
the bottom line... is
that... wherever we are...
00:18:24.71\00:18:28.06
wherever we go...
we still work in the
00:18:28.09\00:18:30.47
Lord's
service... it may change...
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things are going to
change... but that does not mean
00:18:32.84\00:18:36.26
that who we are in Christ
and what we're supposed to do
00:18:36.30\00:18:40.06
is going to change... and
so... that phase may be over
00:18:40.10\00:18:43.83
but there's
still something else...
00:18:43.87\00:18:45.54
That's right... that's right...
and just what you're offering
00:18:45.58\00:18:49.47
to those people who will come to
00:18:49.50\00:18:51.65
the message at night Yes...
00:18:51.69\00:18:53.77
it's hope... and it's
the same thing here...
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God is offering us
00:18:55.92\00:18:57.58
hope to move forward...
00:18:57.62\00:18:59.38
Absolutely...
sometimes... in a different
00:18:59.41\00:19:01.58
direction
because... He's expanding...
00:19:01.61\00:19:03.75
Hmmm... hmmm... He's
expanding the work...
00:19:03.78\00:19:05.85
He's expanding it... and
that's something great...
00:19:05.88\00:19:08.15
yet, everyone who
believes in the Lord
00:19:08.18\00:19:10.79
needs to know
that He's expanding...
00:19:10.82\00:19:13.36
That's right... it's
not going to contract...
00:19:13.40\00:19:15.40
it's time for everybody
00:19:15.44\00:19:16.55
to get involved...
00:19:16.58\00:19:17.78
and He's going to
equip us over and over again
00:19:17.81\00:19:20.99
to do what we need to do...
That's right... that's right...
00:19:21.02\00:19:23.91
so, what is... you
have a new partnership...
00:19:23.94\00:19:26.89
a new emphasis
going on with Message...
00:19:26.92\00:19:29.10
what is that...
tell us about that...
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Well, I can tell you
this first 2 to 3 weeks ago,
00:19:31.28\00:19:34.45
I went to a Church
on Sabbath morning...
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I could hear the music
00:19:37.97\00:19:39.31
from far away
00:19:39.34\00:19:41.18
it was loud...
it was beautiful...
00:19:41.22\00:19:42.91
all male voices... I
walked into this Church
00:19:42.95\00:19:46.02
all males... a
band and everything
00:19:46.05\00:19:49.90
they had the announcements
00:19:49.93\00:19:51.20
they celebrated the birthdays
they had words of encouragement
00:19:51.24\00:19:54.28
we did the Ten
Commandments, we did a couple of
00:19:54.32\00:19:56.50
Fundamental Beliefs...
even in this Church service
00:19:56.54\00:19:59.66
and on the way in...
there's a beautiful table
00:19:59.70\00:20:02.71
with all kinds of literature
including Message Magazine
00:20:02.74\00:20:05.58
on the table... it
was wonderful to see...
00:20:05.62\00:20:07.58
but you know
where that Church was?
00:20:07.61\00:20:10.11
Where? The
Faithful Flock of Calvary
00:20:10.14\00:20:12.78
Seventh-day
Adventist Church located in
00:20:12.81\00:20:15.42
the Jessup
Correctional Institute
00:20:15.45\00:20:18.45
in Jessup, Maryland...
this is a full-fledged
00:20:18.49\00:20:21.40
Seventh-day
Adventist Church there...
00:20:21.44\00:20:23.38
they have about 80
members every week...
00:20:23.41\00:20:25.29
and I'm going to tell you
what really stirred my heart
00:20:25.32\00:20:28.57
was when the
elder... stood up and he says,
00:20:28.61\00:20:31.71
"Listen, when you go
out of here... pick up some
00:20:31.75\00:20:35.18
literature to take back with you
00:20:35.22\00:20:36.96
to share with someone... "
you understand what I mean?
00:20:37.00\00:20:40.77
You put some
tears in my eyes now...
00:20:40.80\00:20:43.05
"Pick up some literature
to take back with you"
00:20:43.08\00:20:45.61
and you know... "I'm
going back to a Cell... "
00:20:45.64\00:20:48.14
Yes... "but take
this back with you
00:20:48.17\00:20:50.30
because somebody... you
can share this with somebody"
00:20:50.34\00:20:53.13
Yes... "to give them the hope
00:20:53.16\00:20:54.66
that you have" I... you know...
00:20:54.70\00:20:56.17
it was a wonderful experience,
and this is our partnership now
00:20:56.20\00:20:59.87
we want to make sure...
there are between 2.3 to 2.7
00:20:59.90\00:21:04.96
I believe is the number
2.3 to 2.7 million people
00:21:05.00\00:21:10.02
incarcerated in
the United States
00:21:10.06\00:21:12.09
we
incarcerate... Say that again...
00:21:12.12\00:21:14.08
Yes... between 2.3 and 2.7
million people incarcerated...
00:21:14.12\00:21:18.40
in the United States...
The United States incarcerates
00:21:18.44\00:21:22.65
more people per capita than
any other nation in the world...
00:21:22.69\00:21:27.34
and... many of those
people are African American
00:21:27.37\00:21:31.96
many of those
people are people of color
00:21:32.00\00:21:34.42
and Message needs to be there,
it is so important to have
00:21:34.46\00:21:38.86
Spiritual material...
that's how you make it through
00:21:38.89\00:21:41.66
you got 20 to 30 years
that you got to get through
00:21:41.69\00:21:44.39
that's how you make it through,
you got family back at home
00:21:44.42\00:21:46.41
That is
absolutely true... Yes...
00:21:46.44\00:21:54.28
and you know what...
that's one of the things
00:21:54.31\00:21:57.65
that may... at
ASI... you're going to hear
00:21:57.68\00:21:59.73
announcements...
you're going to hear stuff...
00:21:59.77\00:22:01.61
just ignore that because
it's going to keep it going...
00:22:01.65\00:22:04.23
but that sounds like
such a great service...
00:22:04.26\00:22:09.90
we have a Program on
3ABN and Dare to Dream
00:22:09.94\00:22:15.57
called "Free Indeed" Yes...
00:22:15.60\00:22:17.37
and even though
they're incarcerated
00:22:17.41\00:22:19.61
the ones who have
accepted Jesus Christ
00:22:19.64\00:22:22.06
are free indeed...
they are truly free...
00:22:22.10\00:22:24.48
Yes... and not
only are they free,
00:22:24.52\00:22:26.55
but they want
to take the message
00:22:26.58\00:22:28.54
and take it back to
the other inmates...
00:22:28.58\00:22:32.25
Yes... you know, a lot of times,
00:22:32.29\00:22:34.68
Carmela, people think
that that's just them..
00:22:34.71\00:22:38.90
let them go... let
them do whatever...
00:22:38.93\00:22:42.30
but what we need
to be able to share
00:22:42.34\00:22:45.64
is that everybody benefits...
when people learn about Jesus
00:22:45.67\00:22:50.14
Absolutely...
everybody benefits...
00:22:50.17\00:22:51.61
they're not going to go
back out and commit crime
00:22:51.65\00:22:54.24
because they have given
their hearts to Jesus Christ
00:22:54.28\00:22:56.84
so, if the viewer is
watching and feeling like
00:22:56.88\00:23:00.85
"You know what...
that's not me... that's them"
00:23:00.88\00:23:03.86
no... it is
you... That's right...
00:23:03.90\00:23:06.10
we are a part of
the family of God
00:23:06.14\00:23:08.27
and those who are
outside of the arc of safety
00:23:08.31\00:23:12.40
it's our
responsibility to do what we can
00:23:12.44\00:23:15.56
to bring them in... Yes...
00:23:15.60\00:23:17.17
so this is great...
so, how are you partnering
00:23:17.20\00:23:20.10
with this... well,
we have several Churches
00:23:20.13\00:23:22.96
in California particularly...
Central California Conference
00:23:22.99\00:23:27.25
is going to work with
us... and we are researching
00:23:27.29\00:23:29.69
the institutions...
so that we can know
00:23:29.72\00:23:31.46
where we can send
Message in... by bulk,
00:23:31.50\00:23:33.76
where we can send in
and how we can get names
00:23:33.80\00:23:36.32
and addresses in other
places to send directly
00:23:36.35\00:23:38.84
to people who are incarcerated
00:23:38.88\00:23:40.42
on a subscription
basis, and we're asking people
00:23:40.45\00:23:43.79
there's somebody
that you may know...
00:23:43.82\00:23:45.48
who is incarcerated...
friends and relatives,
00:23:45.51\00:23:48.66
neighbors, family members,
I know 3 of them in our circle
00:23:48.70\00:23:53.05
in our family
circle... reach out to them
00:23:53.09\00:23:56.30
and make sure you
contact... many people lose hope
00:23:56.33\00:24:00.86
and connection with
their family members
00:24:00.89\00:24:03.01
Message is one
way you can do that...
00:24:03.05\00:24:04.97
say, you know,
"I'm caring about you...
00:24:05.00\00:24:07.29
I hear... and this is
something I want to share... "
00:24:07.32\00:24:09.54
that's one way you can do
it... but we have to be involved
00:24:09.57\00:24:11.65
and that's what
we're going to do
00:24:11.68\00:24:13.67
with this
initiative and I'm very excited
00:24:13.70\00:24:15.65
because of the
enthusiastic response...
00:24:15.69\00:24:17.72
that we've had with
this in particular...
00:24:17.76\00:24:19.72
I am so excited about that...
and let me tell you why...
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from what I understand...
getting any mail...
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when you're in
prison... is like gold...
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Yeah... imagine giving someone
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something that they can look
at that tells them about Jesus,
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that also tells them
about relevant information
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that's going on outside...
things that they can take
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and use inside to
make them to grow...
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help them grow...
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Yes... yeah... this
is, I mean, really Carmela,
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I get excited
about stuff like this...
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because I have such a burden
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for the incarcerated population
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I really do...
because I have family members
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that have been
incarcerated, and so...
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and I think it's touched...
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I mean... with 2.7
million, you know it's touched
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so many people on so
many different levels...
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so, all right... so
just before we go...
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tell us... what your burden
is what do you need to have...
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let our viewers
know what your needs are
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from Message Magazine...
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For that
particular initiative? Yes...
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we are looking
for subscriptions...
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we want to subscribe
for the people that we know
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who would like to
have this magazine...
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in addition to that...
you may not know someone
00:25:31.52\00:25:33.97
but you can donate the
funds to subscribe for someone
00:25:34.01\00:25:37.29
you may not know
and we will find that
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we'll put it in
bulk subscription,
00:25:39.06\00:25:40.69
we'll put those bulk shipments
into these certain facilities...
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or you may have
knowledge, personal knowledge,
00:25:44.25\00:25:46.94
of a facility and what
their requirements would be
00:25:46.97\00:25:49.63
please let us
know... once again...
00:25:49.66\00:25:51.36
that's MessageMazagine. com
00:25:51.39\00:25:52.86
you could e-mail
me via that site...
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and that's what we can do...
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we can work together...
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That's so wonderful Carmela,
tell us in about 30 seconds
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what has God been
doing for your family...
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I will tell you right
now, God has proven...
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He has protected my
family, we had an interesting...
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you ever had a car
repair that just hit you
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because it was so expensive,
we had a $2,500 car repair
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we... my husband
drove home one day...
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after a day at work, the
day after the whole family
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had been in the
car, he drove home...
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the car wouldn't start anymore,
00:26:24.05\00:26:25.78
to make the long story short
00:26:25.81\00:26:27.47
he went to take that
car to the car repair...
00:26:27.51\00:26:30.21
they said, "It's a
wonder you didn't blow up...
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it's a wonder your
car did not explode
00:26:32.94\00:26:35.99
because the fuel
pump was burned out
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and it was sparking
inside of the gas tank... "
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as far as I understand... it's
not supposed to do that right?
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Oh, absolutely not... Carmela...
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God has been
good... thank you...
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My God is good...
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Thank you so much for
being with us... we love you...
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Thank you... thank you...
come back to Dare to Dream
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thank you...
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I love talking to Carmela,
she's always so inspiring
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and just so on fire...
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grateful... if you
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00:27:51.65\00:27:54.03
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Well, that's the
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Thank you so much
00:27:58.55\00:27:59.84
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