My guest today has
not only counseled those
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with adversity
but by God's grace
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she has overcome it herself...
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My name is Yvonne
Lewis and you're watching
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Urban Report...
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Hello and welcome
to Urban Report...
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My guest today
is Dr. Magna Parks
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Psychologist and woman
with her own interesting story
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of victory in Jesus...
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Welcome to Urban
Report Dr. Parks...
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Hi Yvonne, good to be here...
I'm so happy you're here.
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I'm going to call you
Magna... That's just fine...
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Magna, you are such
an accomplished person
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so humble... and
you love the Lord...
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and you have...
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you have your own journey...
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everybody has a
testimony... Yes...
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you have your own
journey... share some of that
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journey with us...
Well, Yvonne, you know
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it's interesting how
you hear people's stories
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and until you
have your own story...
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their stories don't
become very real to you...
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That's so true... and
I think God allowed me
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to have my own
story... I don't even know
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where to start...
but... I went through school,
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got my graduate
degree taught at Oakwood,
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private practice...
but during the latter years
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of that time...
even before getting into
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private practice... I
always start out with this
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story... I was in
engaged to someone
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and a month before...
I broke the wedding off
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and this was the
big wedding of Oakwood
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everybody was all excited,
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so, I left Oakwood
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because I didn't want
to hear all the questions
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you know... moved to
Atlanta and a few months
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after I moved to Atlanta...
my brother who was a physician
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he was missing...
he went missing...
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Oh... you know, we didn't know
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where he was... what happened...
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and for 3
years... he went missing...
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and I met another
person, another gentleman
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we got married... a week before
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we were to marry...
they found my brother dead...
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Oh... and my father called me
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and told me...
because he was thinking
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I'd be able to
handle it, you know...
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my family members were like...
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"Why did you call
her at that time... "
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and the whole week I
was on Ambien... to sleep...
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a psychiatrist
friend... I couldn't sleep
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so I asked her to give me
prescription meds to sleep
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and I slept that
whole week and the next day
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after the
wedding... we told my mother
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because we didn't tell
her before the wedding...
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we told the family gathering,
and we told my mother,
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and the week
after I got married...
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my brother was funeralized...
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Oh... so what a...
that's just the beginning...
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Just an up and down... Yes...
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because you're
on a emotional high
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with the wedding
and the stress too...
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Yes... of getting
ready for a wedding
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but wait... let's
go back to Oakwood
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because that's a
lot of pressure too...
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Yes... it
was... when you have...
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a similar thing happened
to me, so I can relate...
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so, you're getting
ready to get married...
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and it breaks off... Yes...
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and everybody had known
about the impending wedding...
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Hmmm... hmmm... and
then it breaks off...
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and then, it's like...
"Okay, so what happened?"
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so you got out
of there... I did...
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so that you wouldn't
have to deal with that...
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I didn't want to
deal with the questions...
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Yes... yes...
yes... and so then...
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you get to Atlanta... and
tell us again what happened.
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About two months
after I got to Atlanta,
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we get a call... my
brother went missing...
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we didn't know... we
got Private Investigators
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they couldn't find
him... Two months...?
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Two months after
breaking off the wedding...
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so you had that
stress to deal with,
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Yes... your missing brother...
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Now, there are only two of
you? There were four of us...
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Okay... so, you
know, I have my sister
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and my brother left...
actually there are others
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because my dad had a few kids
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before he married my mom...
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but those were the ones
that we all grew up together...
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Okay... so...
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So your brother went
missing, and then a week
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before your wedding,
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Three years later,
he was found dead...
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so all 3 years... your
family is on pins and needles
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That's right...
What's it like for
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because there are
programs on television
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about missing
children, and abductions,
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what's it like... not knowing?
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It's just... you
wake up in the middle
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of the night wondering...
where could my brother be...
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what will happen... you
know, he was a physician
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he was doing in
Infertility Specialty
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at the top of his
class... I mean... doing so well
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and you just
wonder... was he killed...
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did something
happen... it's just...
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like I can't even explain it...
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you just live in
uncertainty all the time
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wondering...
where that person is...
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Yes... So, even though I was sad
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to find out that he had
died, it brought some closure...
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Yes... and to this day...
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we're not sure
how he really died...
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there are a lot of questions...
So, his body was found...
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Yes... Right
behind Dodger's Stadium
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in LA... because
that's where he lived...
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And you still don't know...
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No, we're not sure...
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there are a lot of
theories, but we don't know
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for sure... what
happened... Oh... so then...
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so you had the wedding... then
you funeralized your brother,
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so then... what
happened? Six months later,
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my mom had a
stroke, due to the stress
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of losing her
first son, and then...
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a year and a half after that...
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I started feeling some
tingling in my fingers...
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and my girlfriend had said,
"Oh, sometimes when you eat
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too much salt... it
causes tingling in your fingers,
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and I didn't take it seriously,
then it started to kind of
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go through my
whole arm, and one day
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I was baking something
and I put it in the oven
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and when I took it out,
it just fell and splattered,
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and I called my husband crying,
I said, "Al, I just lost,
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you know, I broke this dish"
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and he says, "That's it,
we're going to the doctor... "
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so, I had a girlfriend
who was a Nurse Practitioner
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she said the quickest
way to get testing done
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is to just go to
the Emergency Room
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so I went to the Emergency
Room, they did all the testing
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and the doctor
came back and says,
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"I'm sorry Ms. Parks, you
have MS-Multiple Sclerosis
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and I said, "Are
you kidding?" he says,
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"No, we've seen all of
this stuff in your brain and
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in your spinal
cord and... " so...
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So on top of everything
else, now you have a diagnosis
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to deal with...
through all this...
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are you practicing... Yes...
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you're doing the counseling and
all the psychological testing...
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Yes... that's
right... testing and all that?
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Yeah... yeah...
yeah.. Yes, I'm going through
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all of that...
during that time...
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and then you found
out that you had MS...
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How did you respond?
Initially, I thought,
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"Well, that's it...
I'm going to be an invalid
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a disabled person for
the rest of my life...
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my husband will
have to take care of me,
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I have to... go into... "
I mean... my mind just went
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Right... then
the Holy Spirit just
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stopped me and said, "You know,
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you don't know if that's
the route it's going to go"
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so He just kind of stopped me,
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I went to the Neurologist
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and the Neurologist said,
"You need to get on steroids"
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and at that point... I
didn't want to do that...
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I'm not saying that
everyone should follow this
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but my husband and I decided
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we wanted to do the
natural treatment...
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Hmmm... hmmm... so
we told the Neurologist
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we're just not
going to do the steroids
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and he says, "Well, Magna,
you'll never get better. "
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that's what he said to me...
we ended up doing "Natural"
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we went to
Wildwood Lifestyle Center
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which uses natural
ways and two months later
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I could fully use my
hand... I had completely
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lost use of this arm... it
was like... I was paralyzed
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my husband had to
help me comb my hair
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I had to eat with my left hand,
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and I couldn't write, so...
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And it came on you
suddenly, Suddenly... yeah...
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it didn't take much
time, it just kind of...
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Usually, I've read
somewhere or heard in a lecture
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or something...
that there's an emotional
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component...
something has happened
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Yes... that leads to MS...
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Yes... And look
at what was going on
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with you... That's right...
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my mother, my
brother, so... Yes... yes...
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they also found out
that my Vitamin D levels
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were... not
low... but deficient...
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and the doctor showed
me there's a relationship
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between that as well...
so... that's where I was
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but in 2 months... the Lord...
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and it's been 7 years
and I've had no symptoms...
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Praise God... Yes... yes...
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See our... and again...
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you're not saying...
this is for everybody
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that "Natural
Route" is for everybody
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but for some people it works
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for some people
it doesn't... but...
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praise God... it
worked for you. Amen...
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and... really...
how can it hurt...
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we're not saying...
"Stop your meds" or anything...
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That's right...
but what we are saying
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that eating right... and
following the laws of health
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can help... Right... amen...
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and it helped me...
And it helped you...
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praise God... Praise the Lord...
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so... you got through that...
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the Lord brought
you through that...
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and then what
happened? Two years later...
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my mother was
diagnosed with Colon Cancer
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and 6 months later she died...
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So now you've lost your
brother, Hmmm... hmmm...
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and your
mother... hmmm... hmmm...
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Yeah... and the time in between
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were you near your
mother, were you helping her,
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or were you far...
did live away from her...
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I was in Georgia...
she was in Florida...
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so it was about 7
hours away from each other
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but then they
moved... closer to me...
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Uchee Pines was
just two hours away...
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they moved in that
area, so I was able to see
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her a lot... for those 2
years before she passed...
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Yeah... that's good...
And a year after that...
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I lost my husband...
Oh, this is... you know,
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as you said before...
when you're talking to people
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and you haven't had your own
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hardship and adversity,
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it has a different
feel... from when you have been
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through it... Yes... yes...
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just all of these
losses back to back...
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What happened with your husband?
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Well, he had
something called AV malformation
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which they say is a
congenital brain disorder...
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the capillaries and
veins are kind of confused or
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twisted or mixed
up or something...
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I don't know the
exact way to describe it...
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but he was born with
that, and people... typically
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the only reason
they may find out
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is when they're younger and
they could do something about it
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or when they're
older and they get rushed
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to the hospital with an aneurysm
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that's what a physician told me
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and that's what happened to him,
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he had some symptoms
going on... 3 weeks before
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and then he was rushed to
the hospital... had an aneurysm
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and 2 days later... he died...
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49-years-old... Oh...
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what was going
through your head, Magna,
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right after he died?
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Why me? Why did God allow this?
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we had started a
ministry 2 or 3 years earlier...
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3 years earlier... and
during the year that he died
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the ministry really
started to take off...
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and I was just saying...
"Lord, we were just doing
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all these wonderful
things... we had come here
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and done some cooking programs
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I had done some things
with "Issues and Answers"
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why now? Why would
you take him away now?
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He's a man who loves
you... all kinds of questions
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were going through my mind...
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but, one day the
Lord said to me...
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"Magna, you're so
concerned about your ministry...
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but I'm more
concerned about salvation... "
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Hmmm... just as bold as...
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I could just hear the
words... and it just...
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we don't understand sometimes
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why things happen as they
do, but, I guess the key is...
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and this is what you have found
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because you are
a woman of faith...
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that the faith comes
in... after you've asked
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the questions or whatever...
trusting that God knew
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what had to be done...
and knew the best place
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for him to be
saved... Yes... amen...
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so, sometimes this
life is so short and
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it's so painful though
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we lose that loved one...
and it's just so... painful...
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Yes... yeah... So
how did you adjust...
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after that...
because it was so sudden...
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It was... It
wasn't like he was sick...
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he just had the
aneurysm and was gone...
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Yes... yes... yes... how
did you adjust after that...
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what did you do? You
know, one of the biggest
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things that helped me
was... I really tightened up
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my walk with the
Lord... I spent more time
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in the Word... I
asked questions but
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I wanted God to direct me
to things that I could read...
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promises that I could hold
on to that was the foundation
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of me being able to deal
with my husband's death...
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and another piece
that the research shows
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when you're dealing with
adversity is... social support
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my Church members
were there for me...
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my friends were there for
me, I didn't stay in the house,
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I didn't want to stay
in the house... where we...
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you know... my husband
and I had our home together...
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so I stayed with a
few friends here...
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I went to St. Croix and stayed
with my cousin for 6 weeks,
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and different people
just opened their homes to me,
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sometimes I felt
like a bag lady...
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because I was going
around from home to home
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but it was my way of
dealing with this difficulty...
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Yes... so that
was really important
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my walk with God and then
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following the laws of
health, that really helped me
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because I would
regularly get up and walk,
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I made sure that I ate
my meals at a regular time,
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I had healthy meals... I
tried to get to bed on time
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and I know that
those laws of health...
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were very important in
helping me work through
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that grieving process...
that is so true because
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without that... the
depression could have
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overtaken you... That's right...
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the walking
stimulates those endorphins...
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and so you're moving
around and so you feel
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better even though
you're feeling terrible
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but you feel
better than you would
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if you didn't do it...
even sleep deprivation...
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had you not gotten enough sleep,
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had you been
eating improperly...
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all of that... can
make you spiral down
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and then the
depression is worse...
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That's right... So
praise God that you had
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the support... that
you got into the Word more
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that is so important...
because when we're going
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through things sometimes
you don't even want to pray...
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I know... You don't
want to read the Word
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you have to make a
conscious decision to do it.
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You do... that's right...
it can't be based on feelings
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see... that's what
gets us in trouble...
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is that... we make
decisions and we do things a lot
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based on how we
feel... but the healing came
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as I said... even
though I feel terrible today,
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in my stomach... you
know... you just have this pit
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in your stomach when
you're going through things
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in spite of that, I am
going to pick up the Bible
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and sometimes... you
may not even feel anything
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while you're reading
the Bible, but the promises
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are still going into
your head and your mind...
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and it's affecting
the brain, so, I said,
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"Lord, I don't feel like
this, but help me to do this
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even if I don't feel like
this, that's what I used to tell
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my people... when
I talk to my clients,
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my patients and now I
had to put it to practice...
00:14:15.68\00:14:18.71
what I was saying to
them... Yes, yes... you had to
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do... you had to
follow your own counsel...
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that's right...
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and you saw... how it works...
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Yes... first hand...
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Amen... So,
okay, so, you lost your
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husband, your
mother, your brother,
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you had the diagnosis of MS...
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what happened with you
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professionally... as you were
going through all of this...
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what were you
noticing professionally?
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You know what I
noticed, believe it or not,
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specially towards
the latter part...
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I started to develop
more empathy and compassion
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for people in their suffering,
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you know, before I had more
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of the "I'm the doctor
role, you come here to help"
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but I felt myself now
as I'm talking to people
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I could feel more of
what they were going through
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because I had walked and
had been walking my own path
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so I definitely
developed more compassion
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at times... sometimes...
I got a little more involved
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than I should have...
Hmmm... kind of over-identified?
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Exactly... so that
was going on as well
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but the good part was...
that the Lord developed more
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compassion and
empathy and more...
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feeling people's
sorrow and suffering more...
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Yes... yes... yes...
which is so, so important...
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Yes... and that other factor
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which is critical...
is that support piece...
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Yes... when your
brothers and sisters
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are praying for
you, you can almost feel
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that you're being
held up by something...
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Yeah... because
you're going through
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this dark time and you just
you're rocking and reeling...
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Yes... and when
you get those prayers
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I mean, that is just
such a critical piece...
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if we would just
pray for other people
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that are going
through it just means so much
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to make such a difference...
You know that text,
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"Comfort others
wherewith we are comforted"
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that text became
real... very real for me...
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Yeah... yes... I
understood a little more
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about what the
Apostle Paul was saying...
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Yes... yes...
Because I had been comforted
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by God... and He gave me more
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where I could
comfort other people...
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because of what
God had done for me...
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Absolutely... that's
such a beautiful thing
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Yes... so, after all of this,
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that now... you
reached a place where
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your symptoms had gone away,
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did they return
after your husband's death?
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No, thank God, they did not...
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I was fearful that
that would happen...
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because stress can sometimes
make the MS flare up again
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Yes... but no symptoms
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By God's grace... I attribute
it all to Him and His power.
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Amen... amen...
and it's natural laws
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that He has
given us... Natural...
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just... if we do certain
things, we can really prevent
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certain outcomes
by the grace of God...
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Yes... yes... So that's great...
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so after all of this,
where did your life go...
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after your husband
died, and you went through
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the whole grieving
period and all that...
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where did your
life go after that?
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Well, my ministry picked
up, I started traveling more,
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and then the Lord
brought a wonderful man
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into my life...
Praise the Lord...
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tell us about how that happened.
Well, you know, I actually
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had known him...
my husband and I...
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he works at Uchee Pines...
and I had actually known him
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my husband and I
would go down there
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we'd sit and eat
with him, I actually...
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this is so funny... I
have to tell this funny story
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I actually thought
he was such a nice man
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I tried to match-make
him with somebody else...
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he actually came to
our house one weekend
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and spent the weekend
because I wanted him to meet
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someone... that
tells you how much
00:17:40.83\00:17:42.57
I thought of
him... That's right...
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and 8 years later... I
would visit Uchee Pines
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when my dad lived on the campus
and we started to interact
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and one thing led to the
other and he came into my life
00:17:51.60\00:17:56.18
and now, we're
engaged... Oh... look at God...
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Yes... Look at
God... He is so loving
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He knows it's not
good for us to be alone...
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Yes... and He's
got somebody for you
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He does... yes... and
that also speaks of...
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I always talk about the "Plan"
God's master plan for us...
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Yes... and even
though we don't see
00:18:14.66\00:18:16.77
where things are going...
He's always got something
00:18:16.81\00:18:21.07
good for us... He does...
00:18:21.11\00:18:22.39
If we would just
trust Him, you know...
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Matthew 6 became
real important for me
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where it says...
"Take, therefore, no thought
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for the morrow... for the morrow
shall take thought for itself
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sufficient unto the day
is the evil thereof... "
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Yes... and that was a promise
00:18:35.60\00:18:37.03
that kept me... because
after my husband died...
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I wondered...
"What's going to happen
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to the Ministry...
what am I going to do,
00:18:41.25\00:18:42.49
my ministry partner is
gone, and I would just have to
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repeat that text...
"Don't worry about tomorrow
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Magna, just deal with
each day as it comes... "
00:18:47.75\00:18:50.25
Yes... Don't take thought about
00:18:50.29\00:18:51.69
tomorrow... I haven't
conquered that completely,
00:18:51.73\00:18:54.15
because even now there
are some issue going on
00:18:54.18\00:18:56.57
and I have to
remind myself of that...
00:18:56.61\00:18:58.39
but I got good
practice when I lost my husband
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in exercising
that... And it's a journey...
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it's a process...
I mean we have to...
00:19:03.13\00:19:05.33
just kind of
stay in the moment..
00:19:05.36\00:19:07.73
Yes... but sometimes if we go
00:19:07.77\00:19:10.07
to the left... the Lord
just brings us right back
00:19:10.10\00:19:12.63
on the right
path... He's so faithful...
00:19:12.66\00:19:14.81
And so merciful... He is...
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And look what He
did... He brought you someone
00:19:16.35\00:19:18.73
that's involved in health
too Isn't that a blessing...
00:19:18.76\00:19:21.60
you know what I mean...
I just praise His name...
00:19:21.63\00:19:23.61
I know... I know... I
know... this is so great...
00:19:23.65\00:19:25.59
so now, where is
your ministry now...
00:19:25.63\00:19:27.68
tell us about your
ministry... what is it
00:19:27.72\00:19:29.53
and what are you
doing? Okay, it's called
00:19:29.56\00:19:31.30
"Be in Good Health" and
when my husband was there
00:19:31.34\00:19:34.22
we had to the
physical health piece
00:19:34.26\00:19:35.39
because he went
through Uchee Pines Training
00:19:35.42\00:19:36.91
and now... I'm going to be
able to add that back again...
00:19:36.95\00:19:40.36
but since he's been gone...
I do mostly mental health
00:19:40.39\00:19:43.77
I do a lot of
Mental Health Seminars...
00:19:43.80\00:19:45.45
I travel and I educate people
because I like Mental Health
00:19:45.49\00:19:48.12
that's focused on Science,
the Bible, and inspired writings
00:19:48.16\00:19:50.75
Science is just
revealing some wonderful things
00:19:50.79\00:19:53.35
about mental health now...
that just goes right along
00:19:53.39\00:19:56.18
the Bible... can
I give an example?
00:19:56.21\00:19:57.54
Oh, yes, please... I
was going to ask you...
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it's called
"Post-traumatic Growth"
00:19:58.98\00:20:00.62
that scientists
are now talking about
00:20:00.65\00:20:02.32
and what they're saying is that
00:20:02.35\00:20:04.58
when people go through trauma
00:20:04.62\00:20:05.66
many of them can
become better people
00:20:05.69\00:20:08.42
as a result of adversity...
and hasn't the Bible
00:20:08.45\00:20:10.91
been telling us that all along?
00:20:10.95\00:20:12.29
Is that not
amazing! It's amazing...
00:20:12.33\00:20:14.59
so I do seminars
on things like that...
00:20:14.63\00:20:17.09
and I also do
one-on-one consultation
00:20:17.13\00:20:19.14
when I'm available
either over the phone
00:20:19.17\00:20:21.11
or here and there I
might do it face-to-face...
00:20:21.15\00:20:23.50
and so that's basically
the bulk of my ministry...
00:20:23.53\00:20:25.81
so you're showing really how
Science is actually supporting
00:20:25.85\00:20:30.66
what the Bible says... Amen...
00:20:30.69\00:20:32.71
which is... of
course we know that
00:20:32.74\00:20:34.69
we're going to choose
the Bible before anything...
00:20:34.72\00:20:38.21
but, it's so interesting
that with Science saying
00:20:38.25\00:20:41.67
"Eat more fruits and vegetables"
you know what I mean...
00:20:41.70\00:20:44.35
going back to the
original plant-based diet...
00:20:44.39\00:20:46.92
it's like all of
these things are really
00:20:46.96\00:20:50.10
supporting... the
teachings... That's right...
00:20:50.13\00:20:52.47
and I think God's allowing
that because God reaches us
00:20:52.50\00:20:56.29
where we are... Yes...
00:20:56.32\00:20:57.55
some people will not
hear a minister get up and say
00:20:57.58\00:20:59.68
"When you go through adversity
you'll be a better person... "
00:20:59.71\00:21:02.35
you know, "The trying of
your faith worketh patience"
00:21:02.39\00:21:05.41
Yes... some
people are not there...
00:21:05.45\00:21:07.21
but when Science says,
"Post-traumatic Growth"
00:21:07.25\00:21:09.83
and it sounds all
professional then...
00:21:09.87\00:21:11.53
their ears start to perk
up and they listen then...
00:21:11.56\00:21:14.05
that's a
door-opening for you to say...
00:21:14.08\00:21:17.08
"You know what...
Science is just finding this
00:21:17.12\00:21:18.94
but thousands of years ago
00:21:18.98\00:21:21.05
God inspired Paul to write it,
00:21:21.09\00:21:23.09
and that kind of
opens their ears...
00:21:23.13\00:21:24.82
they want to hear more truth...
Absolutely, because, for them,
00:21:24.85\00:21:28.78
"if Science says it's
okay, then it must be okay... "
00:21:28.81\00:21:33.42
That's right... Which... okay...
00:21:33.45\00:21:35.22
if that's what you
want... exactly... you know..
00:21:35.25\00:21:37.73
God just looks at us
and reaches us where we are
00:21:37.76\00:21:40.20
that's what I
think... He does...
00:21:40.24\00:21:41.56
I love Him for
that... God is so amazing...
00:21:41.60\00:21:44.67
Yes... I interviewed an author
00:21:44.71\00:21:48.27
as far as I know...
he's not a Christian author,
00:21:48.30\00:21:51.06
he wrote a book about
how children succeed...
00:21:51.10\00:21:55.20
and he was saying
that the... of course,
00:21:55.24\00:21:59.27
Reading, Writing and Arithmetic,
all that stuff is critical
00:21:59.30\00:22:03.01
Hmmm... hmmm... but
there are other parts of
00:22:03.05\00:22:06.09
success that aren't
measured like that...
00:22:06.12\00:22:09.09
and he was saying
that character-building
00:22:09.12\00:22:13.44
is something that is...
00:22:13.48\00:22:15.45
is integral... for success...
00:22:15.49\00:22:19.58
There you go...
wow... and I thought,
00:22:19.62\00:22:21.04
"Wow, this is what we teach"
this is why Christian education
00:22:21.07\00:22:25.81
is so important... Amen...
00:22:25.85\00:22:27.14
because, yes, we're
teaching the academics...
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but academics alone are
not the key for success...
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Character-building,
discipline, the ability to defer
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gratification... all of
these things are critical pieces
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and this is
Biblical... so, it's like
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Science... again...
because the research
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is supporting this...
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Science is supporting
what the Bible says...
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Wow, and I just think that
you know, so what you're doing
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was showing what
Science is saying...
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and showing how...
this is what's in the Word,
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this is what's in
the Spirit of Prophecy...
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all these things
are so important...
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Yes... yes... Where do you see
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God taking your ministry...
like where do you want
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it to go... and
where is it going...
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where does it
feel like it's going
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because we don't
know God's going to do...
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That's right... you
know what my ideal thing
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would be Yvonne? What?
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to have a place
where people could come
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and I can take these principles
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they'd be there for a while and
I could take these principles
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and apply... you
know... what Science is showing
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what the Bible
says, what lifestyle says,
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out in the natural setting,
people can just get away
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because you can
hear God's voice more
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when you get away
from the hustle and bustle
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and so that would be...
just the ideal situation for me
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to be able to work
with people like that...
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Yes... yes...
for several weeks...
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You know... there
are some places where...
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and I don't know if
you'd want to collaborate
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but there's some places
that have been established
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where people are able
to invite others to come
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away from the cities...
come out... get ministered to...
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health-wise and then you
have the emotional piece...
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Yes... which is so important
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because people don't understand
how to deal with stress
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and depression... what
suggestions do you have
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for depression?
Depression, definitely,
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the first thing
that comes to my mind
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is the laws of health
that we talked about, you know,
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helping people to eat healthy,
you know, I've worked with
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people... just by
changing their diet...
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they could have been molested,
abused or whatever as children
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we talk about that... but
when you want to deal with
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the brain... and
just by changing the diet
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I've had people say to
me, "I feel better than before
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I was
depressed," you know, Yes...
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the first thing
is to just understand
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how the body
works and how the mind
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and the brain and the body
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are related and
helping people to understand
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if you could take
care of your brain...
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you can deal with a
lot of that depression...
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That is... I'm shaking my head
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because that is so important
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if we can take care of the
brain and how do we do that?
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we give the brain... the
nutrients that it needs...
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to function optimally... Yes...
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if you're putting a
lot of junk in your body,
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that's what
you're going to get...
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and you're going to
be more depressed...
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because the chemical...
it's the chemical deal...
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That's right... so
the Chemistry is off...
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then your brain is not
going to function right...
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Exactly... so,
this is good stuff...
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so... one of the
things then is...
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changing lifestyle...
changing lifestyle...
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and another key
thing that I know the enemy
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really tried with me...
with all my losses is...
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asking God to help
you with your thoughts...
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our thoughts... I remember
a Neuropsychologist saying,
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"Our thoughts
are killing us... "
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what we
think... is killing us...
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you know, if I rolled
a chair across your foot,
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what you thought will determine
00:25:36.24\00:25:37.86
how you respond to me...
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if you say to me...
"Oh, she didn't see me...
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she probably
did it accidentally"
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it won't affect you
as much, but if you say,
00:25:43.15\00:25:45.46
"Magna did that on purpose,
she knows... she saw my foot"
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that would cause anger,
so what you say to yourself
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will determine how you
respond to situations...
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That's key too... that's
key... you know how, so often,
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people are saying...
00:25:57.57\00:25:59.01
"Why are you
looking at me like that?"
00:25:59.05\00:26:00.39
Yes... "Why did you do that?"
00:26:00.43\00:26:02.07
Yes... "Don't look
at me like that... "
00:26:02.11\00:26:04.40
I mean... jumping
to a place of anger
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when you really don't
have to, and that generates
00:26:06.70\00:26:09.98
a whole other physiological
response as well...
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It does... so,
what you're saying is...
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if you can just change
the way you respond to things,
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Yes... and you can use a word
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to do that... Amen...
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to give you the
foundation for that...
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Amen... That is so good...
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and it's an ever... it's
a process that you continue
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because though I teach this,
I still have to teach myself,
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"Watch your thoughts Magna...
watch your thoughts... "
00:26:35.40\00:26:38.18
because... once you
start going down the path...
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it would get you in
trouble depending on what
00:26:40.28\00:26:42.05
you're thinking...
For sure, do you know,
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there's a Neuroscientist
in Texas, Dr. Caroline Leaf,
00:26:43.83\00:26:48.29
and she said that,
"thoughts actually have an
00:26:48.33\00:26:50.84
anatomical
representation in the brain... "
00:26:50.87\00:26:52.91
and I think she's
talking about neurons...
00:26:52.94\00:26:56.17
but on these
neurons are little thorns...
00:26:56.21\00:26:59.37
thorn-type of
appendages on the toxic thoughts
00:26:59.40\00:27:03.52
so when we re-visit these...
they shoot out toxic chemicals
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into the blood
stream... I believe that...
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and so, we're going to
be sick, That's right...
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we're going to... all
of these things happened
00:27:13.65\00:27:15.92
because we're not thinking
00:27:15.95\00:27:18.27
positively...
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That's right... so
what does the Bible say
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about we think...
00:27:21.51\00:27:22.81
"Whatsoever things are true,
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noble, pure...
think on these things... "
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That's right...
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Thank you so much
for being with us...
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I just love talking to
you and I'm so thankful
00:27:32.39\00:27:35.33
for where God has brought you
00:27:35.36\00:27:37.28
and what He's doing in
your life and I'm super happy
00:27:37.32\00:27:40.39
for your relationship, may
God continue to bless you...
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I want to thank you too...
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for choosing to tune in today
and I hope that the information
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that you heard
can somehow be used
00:27:50.32\00:27:52.96
to change your life...
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That's the end of
our Program for today...
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Thank you so
much for tuning in...
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Join us next time...
because you know what?
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It just wouldn't be
the same... without you...
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