Stay tuned to meet a
man that's standing up
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for the disenfranchised
and working through the System
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to make a difference...
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My name is Yvonne Lewis and
you're watching Urban Report
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Hello and
welcome to Urban Report.
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My guest today
is Robert D. Johnson
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Architect of the
Georgia Fatherhood Initiative
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and National Campaign Director
of the Fathers in Education
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Campaign... Welcome
to Urban Report Robert.
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Yes, thank you so
much You're welcome...
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it's great to have
you here... Yes, Ma'am...
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You have been doing
some incredible work
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with the folks that
are just really struggling
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in terms of their relationships
with their children
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and all that... I
want to get into that...
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but first, tell us
a bit, if you would
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about the impact
of fatherlessness
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on our culture
and our communities.
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Well, I think one way to start
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with just by
sharing the statistics,
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today, we have approximately
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24 million
children who would grow up
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without a father
in the household...
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that's 24 million babies...
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young children in
Elementary School...
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children trying to make
it through High School...
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and children trying to
navigate their life chances...
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who will not have a father
in the home... to guide them...
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this is a tremendous
concern for all of us...
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Absolutely...
absolutely... on Dare to Dream
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we've had several
programs about fatherlessness...
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and it's impact
on our communities...
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and it was said in one
article that I read that
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that is probably the
single-most defining factor
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in various
sociological issues that we have
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whether it's High
School drop-outs...
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whether it's crime... poverty...
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so all of these
things are impacted
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by the lack of the
fathers in the home...
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why do you think,
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there is this issue
in the first place...
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what's going on?
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Well, Yvonne, I think that
we had a change in our culture,
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of our Community... I'm
old enough to remember...
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I grew up in
Brownsville, Brooklyn
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390 Seton Avenue, a 14
story apartment building...
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400 people lived in the
building and I never saw
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an apartment
getting broken into...
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or a woman get
robbed... and we had a culture
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where we had roles and functions
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and the father's
job was to go to work,
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the mothers took
care of the children
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and our job was
to go to School...
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Today... and you rarely saw
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a young lady
have a baby you know,
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without being
married... but if you did...
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the guy she had the baby from
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the next week... you
would see him going to work
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because that was
somebody's father's doing...
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I just want to stop you
right here Robert... because
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wow, what you
said is so important
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and it's something that
we really don't deal with
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as much as we
should and that is...
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roles... just plain roles...
that is such a critical piece
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you said, the
fathers went out to work...
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the mothers were
taking care of the children...
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and you didn't see
the kind of crime...
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you saw fathers
providing for their children...
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when we were coming
up... so, now you're saying
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this is a
different deal now-a-days...
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we are seeing a whole
different construct...
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elaborate on that some
more for us... would you
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Right... it's a
different construct
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and I've done some research
on it... I traced it back to...
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right after the Vietnam
War... what happened is...
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you had intact families
in just about every community
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in the Country...
because you have to...
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remember Yvonne... you know,
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many families
migrated from the South
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they were used to families,
they were used to communities,
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their roles and
functions, hard work was...
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everybody had to work
hard, the kids had to work,
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and then we moved to
these urban environments
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and we still had
some of that intact
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but at the end of the
Vietnam War in 1970 and 1971...
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we were bombarded
with the drug culture...
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drugs and we
were... our men coming home
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were... they were
confronted by these vices
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that created
exposure to criminal activity
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and the
destruction and deterioration
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of the family... the
fathers... when I grew up...
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many of these, Yvonne, were
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"Gentlemen"
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they had just come
out of World War II
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so you can see that they
had a relationship to discipline
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and so, as you
rewind and look back...
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there is a point where
you can see the breakdown
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in the family... the
statistics bear it out
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regarding
childbearing and other things...
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so, and this is interesting...
because I never heard
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the connection
really between the breakdown
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of the family and
the Vietnam War...
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that is a very
interesting concept
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because... here
we have, you know,
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our guys coming
back... from Vietnam
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many of whom were addicted
to heroin and struggling with
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drug abuse... but
was there a difference
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in the World War II
Vets and the Vietnam Vets?
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Yes, I think the difference
was, I lived through it...
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so I'm old enough to
have the direct experience
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I think the
difference was the bombardment
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of drugs in our communities,
World War II Veterans
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they did not have
the proclivity for drugs
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they, more-or-less
responded to alcohol which is
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much less of a
factor in our communities...
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than drugs and the drug
trade, if you look at the movie
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American
Gangster... and you look at the
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proliferation of
drugs in every community
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in the United States of
America it changed the DNA
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I'm using that
word DNA... is the
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chromosome of our community
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and the
chromosome of our community
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was safety... it
was responsibility...
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it was discipline...
and so, therefore, we had
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young men who
were now coming back
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and who their first obligation
was not to take care of
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their children and their family
but to support their habit...
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and we had a
Criminal Justice System...
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that restructured to
facilitate their criminality...
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so, you know, this
is why we speak of the
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Prison Industrialized Complex
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and I think if you look
at the increase in crime...
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and the prison population...
you can directly relate it
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to drugs... and so,
that's very interesting
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relationship...
It absolutely is...
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it absolutely is... so
now we have a situation
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where we have the young men...
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coming back from
Vietnam, addicted and...
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not all of course... I
don't want anybody to think
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that we're saying... "All
the veterans that came back
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from Vietnam were
drug addicted... "
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that's not what we're saying...
but this is an element...
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in this whole puzzle...
because Robert... what I see
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this as... the whole
thing is it's like an onion
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with all these different layers,
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and the things
that have happened
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to the Black Community...
within the past 20 years or so,
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these things have
really just blown my mind
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really... because we can see...
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where "Yes, there's
progress in certain ways"
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and then... we can
see where there is still
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this whole systemic, you
know, institutionalized deal
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that has created
certain restrictions and so
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where do we go... what do we do?
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tell us some solutions...
Well, I really like your analogy
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of the onion because
I tell that story too...
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you know, we live in Georgia
so we have the beautiful Vidalia
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Oh... yeah... that's
right those sweet onions...
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which is the best onion
in the world by-the-way...
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when I say that
when you take the layers
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of the onion off and
you get down to the core
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and you cut it
everyone in the room is crying,
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okay... Okay, come
on... come on now...
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the core of our...
the core of our experience
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right now... today...
which was separated from our
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past because the minute
the community when I grew up
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would not let the drugs
to take over and overwhelm
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they simply were organized
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this was black
men... white men...
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but that experience they had...
they had that relationship
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to being in the military...
and their objective was
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the safety of their
children and families...
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the men who
returned from the war,
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had their DNA changed...
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you know... they had
a mutated chromosome...
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you know what I
mean... I'm using these
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medical terms... and
it changed the nature
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of their behavior
and changing the nature
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of their behavior...
changed the chemistry
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in our community...
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today, I think, Yvonne,
the approach that I take
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to the solution is
that we really are going to
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have to rewind to
the core of that onion
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and then stand there in
that room and cry like a baby
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and realize that we
do have a history...
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we do have a
history of community
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we do have examples of community
and we cannot separate ourselves
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from our history... we
cannot separate ourselves
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from the good
parts of what we did,
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that nuclear family...
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that child would not have a
baby because she knew her daddy
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wasn't going for it...
let me just tell you...
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just like that... real
straight, I have 3 sisters...
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and when you came to
my house to see my sister
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you had better look at
my father... in his eye...
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and when you looked
at my father in his eye,
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you already knew...
there were certain things
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that you just simply
were not going to do...
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I know just what you
mean... you know what, Robert,
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when you talk
about... this is so...
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this is so critical
too... when you talk about
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the DNA has changed... you
know, when I was growing up
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the whole idea of drug
dealers it was repulsive
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you know, somebody
was dealing drugs...
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that is repulsive
they're messing up the community
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they're tearing
down the community
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they are not the
heroes of the community...
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when did it flip...
and the drug dealers become
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the heroes... "Man,
I want to be like...
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that... because
he's driving that big car
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and he's got all the women
and he's got all the money... "
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it's like... we had
a different sense of
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this is what's important...
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it's important to
build up the community
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not tear it down...
and what I'm seeing is the
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glorification of the
drug dealer and it's just...
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to me... it's such
a flip in... you know,
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the Bible says
that at some point...
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things that are
right will seem wrong
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things that are
wrong will seem right...
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and that's what's
happening... it's...
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there's a flip in Society,
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and you're saying
that we need to key into
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our history... we
didn't always have
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this kind of glorification
of the drug dealer...
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we need to go
back to... the place
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where we had roles
where the daddy was looking
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into the eyes of
those suitors and saying,
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"You're not going to try
that with my daughter... "
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those kinds of things...
we need to go back to...
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so I think... your
points are so well taken...
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what connection
does literacy have
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with where we are...
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Well, Yvonne, I tell you...
I sure do appreciate these
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questions you're asking me
because I did a little research
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and I had a choice of
looking at where the evolution
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incubator for what I
consider to be the magnitude
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of the problems that we are
addressing and faced with today,
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and I had a choice
between literacy and poverty...
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and I chose
literacy... because, today...
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and then I always
used statistics...
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I always do research...
I'm a research-type person
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but I try to speak in
terms where people can relate
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but the research
is very compelling...
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you have 44
million people in America
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that are functionally illiterate
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now, Yvonne, there's a
difference between illiterate
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and functionally illiterate...
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functionally illiterate means
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that you don't have the capacity
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for you to hold a
job, and apply the reading
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and writing skills that you need
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in order to maintain that job...
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you don't have the
ability to go to the supermarket
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and tell the difference between
a sale item and not a sale item,
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you do not have the
ability for you to write a check
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and keep a check
book... okay... so that's
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functionally illiterate...
so you have 44 million people
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but Yvonne, I
wanted to make this point
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this last point...
you have 44 million people
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that's in
poverty... so how is that...
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isn't that interesting
that you have this side by side,
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so here it is...
here's the bottom line,
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people that are functionally
illiterate will live in poverty.
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Come on... come on now...
is that not the bottom line...
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that literacy and
poverty go together...
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That's exactly
right... they go together...
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and they feed off of each
other, and then they become
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a multiplier... and
the multiplier is not
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two times two is exponential
is 2 to the power of 3...
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for people that are
Math majors out there...
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I wasn't but... I
wasn't either so...
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but you know...
exponential means that it's
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multiplying 5 times as fast...
so when you have poverty,
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you have illiteracy...
it grows into poverty...
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it grows into education...
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or the lack of
education attainment
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because that's passed on...
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okay... because, if
I'm a father and a mother
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and I only have a
6th Grade reading...
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how do I expect my child
to advance their reading...
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now... in the past culture...
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we did do that because
we had much more control
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of our community and that
father that worked on that farm,
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he knew he wanted his child
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to get a a high school education
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and so, today,
though, we allow our children
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to pretty much
function on their own...
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and without guidance...
they happen to meet those
00:15:27.46\00:15:32.43
speed bumps... like
3rd Grade reading, you know
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where we have 60
percent of our children
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failing the 3rd Grade
Reading proficiency...
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these children that are
just starting out in life...
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and they've already done
the longitudinal study to show
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how they're likely to
drop out of high school...
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so, we've got the 44 million
00:15:46.31\00:15:49.94
people... in this Country
that are functionally illiterate
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and then we have
millions of children...
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who then...
because... their parents are
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functionally
illiterate or illiterate...
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they're not
doing well in School...
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either... whether
it's... whether the parents
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are illiterate or the
parents aren't just parenting...
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which is another issue...
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which... you know...
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they're setting their
kids in front of the TV
00:16:13.03\00:16:14.54
and thinking that the TV
is going to be the teacher
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and train the kids...
so, again, we've got that
00:16:18.17\00:16:21.61
"onion" Robert... we've
got that onion of multiple
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issues... we've got...
people, who themselves, are
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illiterate... who don't
know how to help their children
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so, suppose someone is
watching this Program today
00:16:32.82\00:16:36.36
and they're
saying... "Okay, I don't really
00:16:36.39\00:16:39.26
know... how to read...
00:16:39.29\00:16:41.56
I don't really know how
to balance my check book
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I don't really know...
how to do any of these things
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what do I do... and
how can I help my children
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to do better?" Well,
actually, that's the most
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important
question... is solution...
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and that's where
Fathers in Education was created
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after the 20
years of serving fathers
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and 3 decades of serving
our families and our community
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in... it's all
through the grace of God...
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I realized that we were
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passing on the condition
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to generational... to
the next generation...
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when I was
responsible for programming
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and I had the
opportunity to counsel men...
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I had a man come to
me one time, Yvonne,
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and I asked him to
fill out an application
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and he cried... he
couldn't fill it out...
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and he cried like a
baby... but he had been working
00:17:28.84\00:17:31.08
for the Electric
Company for 13 years...
00:17:31.11\00:17:33.18
I asked him... how would he work
00:17:33.21\00:17:35.62
for the Electric Company
when he couldn't read... he said
00:17:35.65\00:17:37.52
"Mr. J, I did what
I had to do" he said,
00:17:37.55\00:17:39.49
"but the thing
that hurt me the most
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is I couldn't read
my books to my kids... "
00:17:41.49\00:17:44.09
but guess what happened,
he admitted he needed help...
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and he came to somebody
who was willing to help him...
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I went to the Adult
Basic Education people
00:17:52.60\00:17:54.97
and told them,
"Don't embarrass him... "
00:17:55.00\00:17:57.44
Hmmm... "When you
give him the test,
00:17:57.47\00:17:59.87
don't put him in the
room with everybody else...
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put him in a room
with people that have
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the same letter...
" and do you know...
00:18:04.71\00:18:06.61
3 years later...
I saw that gentleman
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in an Adult
Basic Education Class
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and he knew how to
fill out an application...
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Isn't that
wonderful? That's awesome...
00:18:13.59\00:18:15.99
and that's so
heartwarming isn't it...
00:18:16.02\00:18:18.36
because that's
life-changing... you're not just
00:18:18.39\00:18:21.06
talking about, you know,
00:18:21.10\00:18:22.43
having somebody
change their shoes
00:18:22.46\00:18:24.17
you're talking about something
00:18:24.20\00:18:26.33
that gave this man a tool...
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that he can use for everything,
reading... as they say in...
00:18:28.50\00:18:32.37
they used to have this Program
called "Reading is Fundamental"
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if you can't read... you
can't really do anything...
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That's right... you're
functionally illiterate
00:18:38.88\00:18:42.48
and then... by default...
you're basically passing that
00:18:42.52\00:18:46.15
on to your
children... and then...
00:18:46.19\00:18:48.62
but here's the part, Yvonne,
that's most devastating...
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people are embarrassed by this,
okay... and so these fathers...
00:18:52.69\00:18:56.23
I've had experience with
them, you know that whole thing
00:18:56.26\00:18:59.80
I want to be a man...
but you're so embarrassed
00:18:59.83\00:19:02.67
that you can't read...
you're not going to tell anybody
00:19:02.70\00:19:05.14
so you're going to fake it,
so we're going to get 10,000 men
00:19:05.17\00:19:08.74
in 3 years in
Fathers in Education
00:19:08.78\00:19:11.81
and we're bringing
them in to our structure
00:19:11.85\00:19:15.48
regardless of
their marital status
00:19:15.52\00:19:17.99
economic status or
educational attainment
00:19:18.02\00:19:21.69
and we say... "We love you...
00:19:21.72\00:19:22.99
okay... and we want
you to make a commitment
00:19:23.02\00:19:26.06
to your child's education
from early education through
00:19:26.09\00:19:29.73
high school and beyond... " now,
00:19:29.76\00:19:31.37
do you know what
it means to somebody
00:19:31.40\00:19:33.44
that doesn't
have a job to envision
00:19:33.47\00:19:35.44
being in that child's
life for 13 or 14 years...
00:19:35.47\00:19:38.77
it's unprecedented...
because they can't even
00:19:38.81\00:19:41.98
see past tomorrow...
and so... where they say,
00:19:42.01\00:19:44.81
"Without a vision
a man perishes... "
00:19:44.85\00:19:47.15
am I correct? Yes...
00:19:47.18\00:19:48.32
we put their
children in front of them...
00:19:48.35\00:19:50.85
and that father
loves that child...
00:19:50.89\00:19:54.06
and he wants that
child to do better...
00:19:54.09\00:19:56.52
that's when the
Spirit comes in...
00:19:56.56\00:19:59.89
see Spirit moves
when it sees love...
00:19:59.93\00:20:02.83
and this is how
we are operating...
00:20:02.86\00:20:05.70
this is what God
has blessed me to do...
00:20:05.73\00:20:08.87
to be my ministry...
this is how we're going to
00:20:08.90\00:20:13.04
change the game...
Come on... come on...
00:20:13.07\00:20:16.78
How... okay... oh,
you've given me so much here...
00:20:16.81\00:20:20.82
this is so good...
how are you going to reach
00:20:20.85\00:20:23.89
these men... how are
you going to reach them?
00:20:23.92\00:20:26.89
Okay... well I tell you...
I wish I could talk to you
00:20:26.92\00:20:30.69
every day... you really
are very sharp with this...
00:20:30.73\00:20:34.36
let me tell you Yvonne, I
had been blessed that I am a
00:20:34.40\00:20:38.13
very powerful
organizer... I'm a member of the
00:20:38.17\00:20:40.94
National Fatherhood
Leadership Leaders' Group...
00:20:40.97\00:20:43.74
and I'm the
National Mobilization Officer
00:20:43.77\00:20:46.17
my goal is... my job is...
00:20:46.21\00:20:48.34
to mobilize... about
1,500 Fatherhood Programs
00:20:48.38\00:20:51.41
around the Country
and bring them in...
00:20:51.45\00:20:52.68
to a Community...
what I've done as far as
00:20:52.71\00:20:55.08
Education... is... I
am creating a network
00:20:55.12\00:20:59.75
of 200 Fathers In
Education partners...
00:20:59.79\00:21:04.36
who live in various venues
00:21:04.39\00:21:07.20
around the
United States of America
00:21:07.23\00:21:08.96
who have access
to these fathers...
00:21:09.00\00:21:10.67
and I'm asking them to
connect with these fathers
00:21:10.70\00:21:14.24
and I'm using
technology platform...
00:21:14.27\00:21:16.67
to bring them in to
a "virtual community"
00:21:16.71\00:21:20.21
just like Facebook...
I'm creating the Directory
00:21:20.24\00:21:23.55
I'm putting 10,000
fathers on the list
00:21:23.58\00:21:25.38
why don't we just
say we start with 200...
00:21:25.41\00:21:27.48
and we put them on a page...
00:21:27.52\00:21:29.48
and they don't know each other
00:21:29.52\00:21:31.35
but they all are
committed to their children...
00:21:31.39\00:21:33.89
they all are
learning from each other...
00:21:33.92\00:21:36.52
and then we build the
capacity for those individuals
00:21:36.56\00:21:39.49
to become a Community
and for them to organize
00:21:39.53\00:21:42.56
themselves just like the
men did when I was growing up
00:21:42.60\00:21:45.27
and they all... the
best time of the day...
00:21:45.30\00:21:47.37
Yvonne, was when the men
went to work in the morning
00:21:47.40\00:21:49.87
and when daddy came home...
00:21:49.90\00:21:51.47
Oh, you know what Robert...
seriously... this is so good...
00:21:51.51\00:21:56.48
this is so good...
because so many people
00:21:56.51\00:21:59.05
sit back and
say... "What can I do...
00:21:59.08\00:22:01.55
how can I make a
difference, what can I do...?"
00:22:01.58\00:22:06.19
and you're giving a solution
00:22:06.22\00:22:09.02
you are saying...
"Let's organize...
00:22:09.06\00:22:11.49
let's use Social
Media and Technology...
00:22:11.53\00:22:13.90
and let's organize this
thing and get it going... "
00:22:13.93\00:22:17.97
you're not just
sitting back, saying,
00:22:18.00\00:22:19.93
"Oh, I wish we
could do this... "
00:22:19.97\00:22:21.87
no, you're doing it...
and I'm just so grateful...
00:22:21.90\00:22:24.91
the Lord is so
good... because he puts
00:22:24.94\00:22:28.28
ideas into our spirits
00:22:28.31\00:22:30.48
to do things...
00:22:30.51\00:22:31.78
to make a
difference... it's not His will
00:22:31.81\00:22:34.28
that people should just
be floundering like this...
00:22:34.32\00:22:37.12
it's not... and
so, He's given you
00:22:37.15\00:22:40.02
some great ideas as
to how to move forward
00:22:40.06\00:22:43.99
with this... so
you're going to be
00:22:44.03\00:22:45.36
getting partners and
organizing this whole movement
00:22:45.39\00:22:50.33
to help fathers... is this...
00:22:50.37\00:22:53.10
this is incarcerated as well
as non-incarcerated fathers...
00:22:53.13\00:22:58.17
who are the
fathers that you want?
00:22:58.21\00:22:59.87
Well, primarily Yvonne,
they are low-income fathers
00:22:59.91\00:23:03.41
primarily by default...
okay... because the kids
00:23:03.45\00:23:06.92
that are at the
greatest risk of impact
00:23:06.95\00:23:09.42
are low-income
kids... okay... and so,
00:23:09.45\00:23:11.69
the fathers who
have the greatest need
00:23:11.72\00:23:13.92
the greatest barriers
are low-income fathers
00:23:13.96\00:23:16.39
so these fathers are... a
significant number of them
00:23:16.42\00:23:20.16
have criminal
records and have been exposed
00:23:20.20\00:23:22.66
to the Criminal Justice
System, so that's the major part
00:23:22.70\00:23:25.87
of our
population... so we want to help
00:23:25.90\00:23:28.20
them to revise their
behavior and their perception
00:23:28.24\00:23:32.84
of their opportunities
00:23:32.87\00:23:35.14
and develop a vision
00:23:35.18\00:23:37.38
for their future...
and just like I read a book
00:23:37.41\00:23:40.38
the other day... it
said, "Just like our bodies
00:23:40.42\00:23:43.39
were not made to endure pain...
00:23:43.42\00:23:45.49
we were not built
to endure failure... "
00:23:45.52\00:23:49.32
Hmmm... hmmm... you see...
00:23:49.36\00:23:51.49
God didn't make
us to be failures...
00:23:51.53\00:23:54.10
Come on... come
on... we're supposed to be
00:23:54.13\00:23:56.60
the head... not
the tail... right?
00:23:56.63\00:23:57.87
That's right...
00:23:57.90\00:23:59.03
we're supposed to be
the head not the tail...
00:23:59.07\00:24:00.37
That's right...
00:24:00.40\00:24:01.70
but one of the things
that seems to have happened...
00:24:01.74\00:24:04.84
and you alluded to this earlier
00:24:04.87\00:24:07.11
is that the whole idea of roles
00:24:07.14\00:24:09.68
has gotten
convoluted... really...
00:24:09.71\00:24:12.18
I mean... when you
look at it... you know...
00:24:12.21\00:24:14.28
when you have a
fatherless situation
00:24:14.32\00:24:16.82
then you have the
mother that's really
00:24:16.85\00:24:19.29
the Head of household,
and then that young boy
00:24:19.32\00:24:22.49
looks to the
mother to take care of him
00:24:22.52\00:24:24.89
and then looks to the
girlfriend to take care of him
00:24:24.93\00:24:28.46
instead of being the man
that God created him to be...
00:24:28.50\00:24:32.07
so, again, that onion...
that whole idea of the layers
00:24:32.10\00:24:35.67
and what you're doing
with your Organization
00:24:35.70\00:24:38.81
is... you are putting
back the whole idea of
00:24:38.84\00:24:41.98
God's initial plan
00:24:42.01\00:24:44.08
for the role of man...
00:24:44.11\00:24:46.08
That's right,
Yvonne, and that's... when...
00:24:46.11\00:24:49.58
of all of the
things that I talk about
00:24:49.62\00:24:51.75
with all my
partners around the Country
00:24:51.79\00:24:53.89
we always end up
with Spirit... okay...
00:24:53.92\00:24:56.86
and my favorite
verse in the Bible
00:24:56.89\00:24:58.53
is Jeremiah... that
said, "I knew you before
00:24:58.56\00:25:00.40
you were formed in
your mother's womb...
00:25:00.43\00:25:02.36
so, therefore, I had
a purpose for you... "
00:25:02.40\00:25:04.37
but we realize
that at some point...
00:25:04.40\00:25:06.30
when these children
came out they had exposure
00:25:06.33\00:25:09.27
to an environment
that put fear in them...
00:25:09.30\00:25:11.97
F E A R... False
Education Appearing Real
00:25:12.01\00:25:14.68
and then they began
believing that it was true
00:25:14.71\00:25:18.01
you know... and so,
I always tell people
00:25:18.05\00:25:19.65
"If you believe
you're sick... you're sick...
00:25:19.68\00:25:22.08
right... in direct proportion
to how much you believe it... "
00:25:22.12\00:25:25.09
so when we believe "we
are not going to ever have a
00:25:25.12\00:25:27.79
job or we are never
going to have a family... "
00:25:27.82\00:25:30.39
but we really...
when we don't have
00:25:30.43\00:25:32.49
an environment and a
structure that gives us
00:25:32.53\00:25:36.53
the understanding of
our role and our function...
00:25:36.56\00:25:39.17
when I was a kid... do
you know what my job was?
00:25:39.20\00:25:41.74
"Go to School...
" Hmmm... hmmm...
00:25:41.77\00:25:44.24
and "Stay out of trouble...
" because when daddy came home
00:25:44.27\00:25:48.44
at 6 o'clock... I had to
stop everything I was doing
00:25:48.48\00:25:52.41
and then we all had to go
upstairs and eat dinner...
00:25:52.45\00:25:55.98
and Friday was a wonderful day
00:25:56.02\00:25:58.42
because daddy would come home
00:25:58.45\00:26:00.79
he'd been paid that
little bit of money and boy...
00:26:00.82\00:26:03.19
we'd just act like
we were millionaires...
00:26:03.22\00:26:05.79
so, we didn't know we were poor
00:26:05.83\00:26:08.36
we were "working poor"
00:26:08.40\00:26:09.56
millions and millions
of working poor today...
00:26:09.60\00:26:12.03
but if we organize,
Yvonne, as a Community...
00:26:12.07\00:26:14.47
and we begin to
build the capacity...
00:26:14.50\00:26:17.07
to support each other with
the goal of the children...
00:26:17.11\00:26:20.08
I just want to
leave you with this...
00:26:20.11\00:26:22.31
in the African
village... there is a...
00:26:22.34\00:26:24.48
the way they greet
each other in the morning...
00:26:24.51\00:26:26.58
they say, "How
are the children?"
00:26:26.61\00:26:29.92
and they say... "the
children are fine... "
00:26:29.95\00:26:33.09
so if the children are
fine... the village is fine...
00:26:33.12\00:26:36.36
All right... all right...
I love it... I love it...
00:26:36.39\00:26:39.13
what's your website...
tell us your website again...
00:26:39.16\00:26:41.83
Partnering
with... partners in...
00:26:41.86\00:26:46.57
www. committedfathers. org
00:26:46.60\00:26:50.44
and let me repeat that...
00:26:50.47\00:26:54.21
that's www.
committedfathers. org
00:26:54.24\00:26:58.55
and you will see the
Fathers in Education page,
00:26:58.58\00:27:01.48
and you will have an
opportunity to sign on
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and become a part of our Network
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and so, we would love for
you to be a part of our Network
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I'd love to see
you and meet you...
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Well, praise the
Lord... you know...
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you've given us some
great, great information
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I am going to look
into it because I often
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want to know what to do...
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Thank you so much
for being with us...
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we really, really appreciate it
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and I'd love to
have you back sometime...
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Yes any time
Ma'am... thank you so much
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for inviting
me, God bless you...
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God bless you as well...
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Robert Johnson has
given us some strategies for
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reaching out to those in need...
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Will you help?
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What would Jesus have us
to do in situations like this
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where the downtrodden need
our concern and assistance?
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You already know
the answer... James 1:27
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says... "Pure
religion, undefiled before
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God and the Father, is this,
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to visit the fatherless
and widows in their affliction
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and to keep himself
unspotted from the world. "
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Well, that's our Program...
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Thanks so much for tuning in...
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Join us next time...
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It just wouldn't be
the same without you...
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