Stay tuned to meet a man that was once forced 00:00:01.06\00:00:03.04 to be behind bars but now... loves it... 00:00:03.07\00:00:05.76 my name is Yvonne Lewis, and you're watching 00:00:05.79\00:00:08.45 Urban Report 00:00:08.48\00:00:09.69 Hello and welcome to Urban Report. 00:00:31.10\00:00:33.23 My guest today is Lemuel Vega... 00:00:33.26\00:00:35.40 Founder of "Christmas Behind Bars" 00:00:35.43\00:00:37.50 and a featured host on 3abn's Program... "Free Indeed" 00:00:37.53\00:00:41.35 Welcome to Urban Report Lemuel... 00:00:41.39\00:00:43.59 Yeah... Thank you... yeah, blessings to you... 00:00:43.63\00:00:46.40 Yeah... I'm so glad you're back because you were here before 00:00:46.44\00:00:48.74 and we had so... you had so much information 00:00:48.78\00:00:51.52 and it just felt like we didn't have enough time 00:00:51.56\00:00:54.26 so, I had to bring you back... Amen... 00:00:54.30\00:00:56.04 because your passion for your ministry is just... 00:00:56.07\00:00:58.30 and your ministry is so powerful... 00:00:58.33\00:00:59.97 Well, it has exploded since the last time we talked 00:01:00.01\00:01:02.93 so praise God... can we start with Scripture 00:01:02.96\00:01:04.93 Sure, please... I would like to start with 00:01:04.97\00:01:06.87 John Chapter 4 verse 7... There cometh a woman of Samaria 00:01:06.91\00:01:11.27 to draw water... Jesus saith unto her, 00:01:11.31\00:01:13.57 "Give me to drink" there was a dialogue 00:01:13.60\00:01:15.79 that took place and we'll skip down to John Chapter 4 verse 13 00:01:15.83\00:01:19.63 Jesus answered and said unto her "Whosoever drinketh of this 00:01:19.66\00:01:23.69 water... physical, literal water shall thirst again... " 00:01:23.73\00:01:27.73 but Jesus said, "Whosoever drinketh of the 00:01:27.76\00:01:31.64 water that I shall give him, shall never thirst... " 00:01:31.68\00:01:34.28 and that's what we're talking about here today 00:01:34.31\00:01:36.18 is "Living Water" hope for the communities, 00:01:36.22\00:01:38.06 hope for the inner cities, hope for the people 00:01:38.10\00:01:39.96 who find their lives have been derailed... Amen... 00:01:40.00\00:01:42.38 Amen... Jesus says, "But whosoever 00:01:42.42\00:01:44.75 drinketh of the water that I shall give him 00:01:44.78\00:01:47.51 shall never thirst but the water that I shall give 00:01:47.55\00:01:50.69 him... shall be in him a well of water... 00:01:50.72\00:01:53.35 springing up into everlasting life... " 00:01:53.39\00:01:55.95 so there has to be a relationship, a decided thought 00:01:55.99\00:01:59.71 in a person's life that they want change... 00:01:59.75\00:02:01.64 I have two bottles of water here there's a demonstration here 00:02:01.68\00:02:04.77 because here it talks about water springing up 00:02:04.81\00:02:08.10 unto everlasting life... so there has to be a journey 00:02:08.13\00:02:10.95 there has to be a decisive decision... that a person wants 00:02:10.98\00:02:14.53 something different... now, if you have 2 bottles of water here 00:02:14.56\00:02:17.67 which we do... a bottle of dirty-looking water 00:02:17.70\00:02:20.84 and we have a bottle of clean water 00:02:20.87\00:02:22.48 which one would you prefer to drink? 00:02:22.52\00:02:24.09 Oh, definitely the clean one. The clean one... 00:02:24.13\00:02:26.42 we all want clean... Amen... Amen... 00:02:26.45\00:02:28.75 we all have been trying all of our lives 00:02:28.79\00:02:30.26 since little children to change the internal drama 00:02:30.29\00:02:32.60 that's been going on... no one had to teach us 00:02:32.64\00:02:34.88 how to lie, steal or cheat... so you desire the clean water 00:02:34.92\00:02:38.63 but somehow... perhaps... people in our world 00:02:38.67\00:02:42.49 in my own personal life, I desire the clean water 00:02:42.52\00:02:46.24 but I found my life was infected with the dirty water 00:02:46.28\00:02:49.96 could you hold this for me... Sure... 00:02:50.00\00:02:51.74 so, how do we get... I'll have you hold the water here... 00:02:51.78\00:02:55.21 how do we get from the dirty water to the clean water 00:02:55.25\00:02:59.24 is... we ask Christ for help in our lives... Amen... 00:02:59.27\00:03:03.23 Okay... "so Lord... please help me... " 00:03:03.26\00:03:05.73 wow... is the cup clean yet? No... 00:03:05.76\00:03:09.15 No, the cup isn't clean yet, but day by day we say, 00:03:09.18\00:03:13.10 "Lord I need your help with my life... " 00:03:13.13\00:03:14.86 Is the cup clean yet? No... 00:03:14.90\00:03:16.26 It's a daily deal... so don't give up... 00:03:16.30\00:03:18.23 when you ask God for help in your life 00:03:18.26\00:03:20.14 and it doesn't change automatically 00:03:20.17\00:03:22.32 don't give up... is the cup clean? 00:03:22.36\00:03:24.43 You know what? It is now... 00:03:24.47\00:03:26.16 It looks clean... okay... so, we've been walking 00:03:26.19\00:03:28.06 with Jesus for a minute... okay... 00:03:28.09\00:03:29.68 things have been going good and all of a sudden... 00:03:29.71\00:03:31.62 maybe you cussed your parents out 00:03:31.65\00:03:33.08 or you cussed the police out or something... 00:03:33.12\00:03:34.45 Is the cup clean? No... 00:03:34.48\00:03:36.37 Let me tell you what Jesus does, Jesus said, 00:03:36.41\00:03:38.78 "I will never leave you nor forsake you... " 00:03:38.81\00:03:41.11 and Jesus has got a big cup so wherever you are at 00:03:41.15\00:03:43.77 you just continually allow God to transform your life 00:03:43.80\00:03:47.67 Yes... So, that's the deal with the 00:03:47.70\00:03:48.78 clean water and the dirty water, so, thank you for being 00:03:48.82\00:03:51.54 a part of that... our lives... 00:03:51.57\00:03:53.44 people in the world desire this clean water 00:03:53.48\00:03:56.02 but we find our lives infected with a problem called "sin"... 00:03:56.05\00:03:58.73 and Jesus is that answer... and that's the water 00:03:58.77\00:04:01.35 when He begins to come in and impart the Spiritual application 00:04:01.39\00:04:04.87 of the Living Water into our lives... then we begin to grow 00:04:04.91\00:04:08.36 and it will be a work in continuation until Jesus comes 00:04:08.39\00:04:11.86 so that's the power of the everlasting gospel 00:04:11.90\00:04:13.96 the three angels' message... And that's what we need... 00:04:13.99\00:04:16.32 isn't it? I mean we... this was a great 00:04:16.35\00:04:19.29 illustration because you're showing that 00:04:19.32\00:04:22.19 you're not immediately... just because you asked 00:04:22.22\00:04:25.89 to be cleansed... doesn't mean that you're never 00:04:25.92\00:04:28.52 going to sin again... you make mistakes... 00:04:28.55\00:04:30.69 but the Bible says... if we sin... we have an advocate 00:04:30.72\00:04:33.56 with the Father... Jesus Christ the Righteous... 00:04:33.60\00:04:35.98 so we can go to Him and say, "Lord, I've messed up... 00:04:36.01\00:04:39.77 please help me... " and He continues to cleanse us 00:04:39.80\00:04:43.19 from all unrighteousness... And "justification" is... 00:04:43.23\00:04:46.58 we come... just as we are... Amen... 00:04:46.61\00:04:48.52 Yes... because some people have the 00:04:48.56\00:04:50.40 thought that they'll get all cleaned up first 00:04:50.43\00:04:51.96 and then they'll come to Jesus. Right... 00:04:51.99\00:04:53.45 And that's not true... I've heard that so many times 00:04:53.48\00:04:55.60 like... I'll come to the Lord... but not now... 00:04:55.64\00:04:58.85 I'll come to Him... when I've changed... 00:04:58.88\00:05:01.62 we can't change... that's the problem... 00:05:01.65\00:05:04.32 that's why we're sinners and in of a Savior... 00:05:04.36\00:05:06.11 because we can't change... 00:05:06.14\00:05:07.26 The woman who was caught in adultery... 00:05:07.30\00:05:08.40 did she get cleaned up first? 00:05:08.44\00:05:10.13 When? When she came that day... 00:05:10.16\00:05:11.82 they dragged her up to Jesus? 00:05:11.86\00:05:13.75 No... no... They brought her in her sin... 00:05:13.78\00:05:15.34 They caught her in the act of adultery... 00:05:15.37\00:05:16.89 And what did Jesus tell that sister? 00:05:16.92\00:05:18.06 "Go and sin no more... " "Neither do I condemn thee 00:05:18.10\00:05:20.83 but go and sin no more," but we must come, 00:05:20.87\00:05:22.59 just as we are... Praise God... 00:05:22.62\00:05:23.71 I have something that the children of moms and dads 00:05:23.74\00:05:27.04 it's an information pack from Christmas Behind Bars 00:05:27.07\00:05:30.33 an envelope... and so, if any of our viewers 00:05:30.43\00:05:33.00 know of anybody who is incarcerated... 00:05:33.03\00:05:35.52 they can send 00:05:35.56\00:05:36.75 the incarcerated loved one's information to us... 00:05:36.79\00:05:39.89 and we will send them 00:05:39.93\00:05:41.02 an information packet from Christmas Behind Bars... 00:05:41.06\00:05:43.15 so they have an opportunity to sign up for free book offers 00:05:43.19\00:05:45.72 free Bible Study offers and things like that... 00:05:45.76\00:05:47.62 so, any of our viewers if they know of anyone who's 00:05:47.66\00:05:50.11 incarcerated... they can go online... 00:05:50.15\00:05:51.94 at christmasbehindbars. org and fill out the little form 00:05:51.98\00:05:55.50 and then we will see that their loved one 00:05:55.53\00:05:57.46 gets an information pack in the mail... 00:05:57.50\00:05:59.39 so that's something new... But I want to come back 00:05:59.43\00:06:01.11 to that... because... let's talk about 00:06:01.14\00:06:03.32 what Christmas Behind Bars is... 00:06:03.35\00:06:05.19 some of our viewers might not have seen the first program 00:06:05.23\00:06:07.93 that you did with us... tell us Christmas Behind Bars 00:06:07.96\00:06:10.70 what is it? Christmas Behind Bars is a 00:06:10.73\00:06:12.73 Program that started 16 years ago... 00:06:12.76\00:06:14.69 it started with one county jail in Central Indiana 00:06:14.72\00:06:17.48 and we put a little devotional book in the Package... 00:06:17.52\00:06:20.24 a toothbrush, a bar of soap, a few granola bars 00:06:20.28\00:06:23.21 a few things like that... so we actually 00:06:23.25\00:06:25.42 take and make gift packages for men and women 00:06:25.45\00:06:28.38 that are in prison... Oh... and how necessary is that! 00:06:28.41\00:06:32.22 I was watching "Free Indeed" and I saw... 00:06:32.25\00:06:35.85 one of the inmates talked about how much that meant to 00:06:35.88\00:06:40.19 receive that... no one was writing him... 00:06:40.23\00:06:42.61 no one was visiting him... and when he got that package 00:06:42.65\00:06:46.50 it was... it was like Jesus coming to him... 00:06:46.53\00:06:50.98 it was a manifestation really of the Lord's love to him... 00:06:51.01\00:06:54.58 of someone reaching out and saying... 00:06:54.62\00:06:56.84 "You're not worthless... you are a human being... 00:06:56.88\00:07:00.59 worthy of a gift... " and so, when this ministry that 00:07:00.63\00:07:04.31 you're doing... to me... it's so transforming... 00:07:04.34\00:07:07.74 because you're saying... to people who think 00:07:07.77\00:07:11.13 they have no one... "We love you... 00:07:11.16\00:07:13.66 we love you... " and this is what you give them 00:07:13.70\00:07:16.30 what are some of the responses that you get when you give it? 00:07:16.33\00:07:19.11 The responses are absolutely amazing... 00:07:19.15\00:07:21.24 we got a response from Virginia, we just completed 00:07:21.27\00:07:23.56 30,000 gift packages to the State of Virginia 00:07:23.59\00:07:26.22 that's every man and woman in the whole state of Virginia 00:07:26.25\00:07:28.98 received a gift package from Christmas Behind Bars... 00:07:29.01\00:07:32.19 so that's amazing... but the core letter that I got 00:07:32.23\00:07:35.38 out of stacks of letters from Virginia 00:07:35.42\00:07:37.64 was with this ministry... you are reaching 00:07:37.68\00:07:41.72 the "unchurched," the "unsaved" and you are encouraging 00:07:41.75\00:07:45.89 those who've made a relationship... 00:07:45.93\00:07:47.59 a commitment to start with Jesus... 00:07:47.63\00:07:49.44 to follow Jesus, so... and that's what 00:07:49.47\00:07:51.18 Christmas Behind Bars is all about... 00:07:51.21\00:07:52.88 unbeknownst to me when the program started... 00:07:52.92\00:07:55.30 we are able to reach every man and woman in the whole prison 00:07:55.34\00:07:58.23 in the whole jail... whoever they are... 00:07:58.27\00:08:00.06 it's not just a call, "Hey, who wants to go to Church today?" 00:08:00.10\00:08:02.66 "Who wants to go to Church?" and 30 people trickle out... 00:08:02.70\00:08:05.23 out of a prison of 2,000 inmates... 00:08:05.26\00:08:07.33 but every man and woman in the prison receives a gift 00:08:07.36\00:08:10.83 and that's the gift that God gave me 16 years ago 00:08:10.86\00:08:14.29 when I was sick and ready to die... 00:08:14.32\00:08:15.61 He gave me hope... through a magnificent 00:08:15.64\00:08:18.22 sunset that I'd never seen... I mean... just amazing... 00:08:18.25\00:08:21.13 in a derelictic state with 24 hours clean 00:08:21.17\00:08:24.12 I said, "Dear Jesus, please help me... I want to quit... 00:08:24.16\00:08:26.19 but I can't... " and through that... 00:08:26.22\00:08:28.39 God gave me something to encourage me 00:08:28.43\00:08:30.52 and through this... it's encouraging thousands 00:08:30.56\00:08:33.10 and thousands of people for the Kingdom of Heaven... 00:08:33.13\00:08:35.27 and so that's amazing... It is... you have... 00:08:35.30\00:08:37.92 such a unique past... because you can totally relate 00:08:37.96\00:08:42.99 to those inmates... because you were one... 00:08:43.02\00:08:45.62 Amen... Just give us just a little bit 00:08:45.65\00:08:47.57 of your testimony, if you would share what happened to you 00:08:47.61\00:08:50.80 that led you into the prison system... 00:08:50.84\00:08:53.91 As a young man... I struggled with a "sin" problem 00:08:53.94\00:08:56.56 you know, lying, stealing, cheating... so I was born with 00:08:56.60\00:09:00.15 that nature as we all... in the human race are... 00:09:00.19\00:09:02.58 and so, I thought that somehow if I could get enough money 00:09:02.62\00:09:05.94 as a young man... I'd begin to fit in... 00:09:05.97\00:09:07.97 I'd begin to connect... I was a little businessman... 00:09:08.00\00:09:11.13 if you will... buying and selling drugs... 00:09:11.17\00:09:13.21 and by the time I was 18 my daddy always told me, he said 00:09:13.25\00:09:15.51 "Kid, if you don't change your ways... you're going to be in 00:09:15.54\00:09:17.74 prison by the time you're 18 " I said, "All right... whatever" 00:09:17.77\00:09:19.94 you know... and I just kind of accepted that... 00:09:19.97\00:09:21.95 Well, at 18 years old... I was sent to a small, rural, 00:09:21.99\00:09:24.43 county jail looking at 10 to 20 years in prison... 00:09:24.46\00:09:26.87 and Sister... I wanted "change" 00:09:26.91\00:09:28.63 I wanted change... I didn't want that way of life 00:09:28.66\00:09:31.02 and that desire... there at 18 years old... 00:09:31.06\00:09:33.14 was to reach out to people who were 12- and 13-years-old 00:09:33.18\00:09:36.71 if I could just go back and tell them... not to go this road... 00:09:36.74\00:09:39.98 because this isn't happening... Well, I got out of prison... 00:09:40.02\00:09:43.23 it was some years later... I got out of prison... 00:09:43.26\00:09:44.91 and I begin to... I never really committed 00:09:44.94\00:09:46.99 my life to Christ... I tried Christ... 00:09:47.02\00:09:49.00 tried to read the Bible... but yet I never surrendered 00:09:49.03\00:09:51.61 and allowed him to come into my life... 00:09:51.64\00:09:53.00 and so, 16 years ago... sick and ready to die... 00:09:53.04\00:09:55.62 I got down on my knees... I asked Christ for help in my life 00:09:55.66\00:09:58.37 so I had a terrible past... just like every brother and 00:09:58.40\00:10:00.92 sister incarcerated... every child born upon the face 00:10:00.96\00:10:03.36 of the earth... they just feel like they don't fit in... 00:10:03.39\00:10:05.24 but with Jesus... they do... 00:10:05.27\00:10:06.44 and He'll cleanse us internally, programs in the world don't 00:10:06.47\00:10:09.78 change us... Anger Management classes, 00:10:09.82\00:10:11.44 Alcohol classes, Drug classes, Sex classes, Gambling classes, 00:10:11.47\00:10:14.58 they tried to change us on the exterior... 00:10:14.62\00:10:18.66 Right... By Jesus coming in... 00:10:18.70\00:10:20.27 per our invitation... begins to change us 00:10:20.31\00:10:22.19 on the interior... Yes... 00:10:22.23\00:10:23.81 so, when Christmas Behind Bars started... I had about... 00:10:23.85\00:10:25.74 one year clean... and it started with 00:10:25.77\00:10:27.23 one little county jail and then now it's growing 00:10:27.26\00:10:29.49 just magnificently, Sister... Well, that's tremendous... 00:10:29.53\00:10:33.56 So, because of your experience you knew the loneliness... 00:10:33.59\00:10:37.65 you knew... how the inmates feel there... day after day... 00:10:37.68\00:10:41.71 without receiving visits or mail or whatever... 00:10:41.74\00:10:44.41 you knew that... that whole deal... and so... 00:10:44.44\00:10:47.04 it was... I think... it was so obvious that God just called you 00:10:47.07\00:10:52.25 into this because you have a unique connection 00:10:52.28\00:10:55.44 with the brothers and sisters... Amen... and Christmas is the 00:10:55.48\00:10:57.80 loneliest time of one's incarceration... 00:10:57.84\00:10:59.62 I don't know why... Oh, tell us... tell us 00:10:59.66\00:11:01.38 tell us a little bit about that. I mean, people... 00:11:01.41\00:11:03.21 officers coming in and they're singing happy songs 00:11:03.24\00:11:04.97 and it's almost Christmas... you know, and so hopefully 00:11:05.00\00:11:07.73 at some point... we had a good Christmas 00:11:07.77\00:11:09.42 in our lives... somewhere as a child... 00:11:09.46\00:11:11.34 hopefully... and so we just think of being 00:11:11.38\00:11:13.31 at home with mom and dad, or being... whatever... 00:11:13.34\00:11:15.72 and so, Christmas was the loneliest time 00:11:15.75\00:11:17.53 of my incarceration... and I want you to know... 00:11:17.57\00:11:20.00 the name Christmas Behind Bars, doesn't mean we just 00:11:20.04\00:11:22.66 do this at Christmas... and it has absolutely nothing 00:11:22.69\00:11:25.27 to do with Santa Clause or jingle bells or 00:11:25.31\00:11:27.39 Rudolph the Red-Nosed Reindeer because they didn't do anything 00:11:27.43\00:11:30.30 for our babies while we were locked up... 00:11:30.33\00:11:31.64 All right... all right... Those men don't do anything 00:11:31.67\00:11:33.74 for our babies while we're locked up... 00:11:33.77\00:11:34.96 but Jesus' coming into our lives begins to change us internally. 00:11:35.00\00:11:38.67 Yeah... yes, yes... so how did you get the name 00:11:38.71\00:11:41.25 Christmas Behind Bars? Because it was always finished 00:11:41.28\00:11:44.25 by Christmas... it would grow... 00:11:44.28\00:11:45.44 it was started at Christmas... and then it would go... 00:11:45.47\00:11:48.37 November and December and then it went 00:11:48.41\00:11:49.95 October, November, December, 00:11:49.99\00:11:51.16 and then it started, September, October, November, December, 00:11:51.19\00:11:53.35 we were always finished by Christmas, 00:11:53.38\00:11:54.81 and somebody actually named the program... 00:11:54.85\00:11:57.42 we were running for about 6 years 00:11:57.45\00:11:59.23 and they gave me a brochure and it said, 00:11:59.26\00:12:00.58 Christmas Behind Bars... and it had the logos and everything 00:12:00.62\00:12:02.82 because I can't read, or draw, or write or spell... 00:12:02.86\00:12:05.70 and so God worked that out too. That's tremendous... 00:12:05.74\00:12:08.55 it is such a great Program... tell us about 00:12:08.59\00:12:12.37 some of the inmates whose lives have been changed... 00:12:12.41\00:12:15.30 as a result of Christmas Behind Bars... 00:12:15.33\00:12:17.36 Well, inmates have written many beautiful letters 00:12:17.40\00:12:21.21 they've made commitments, they said that, 00:12:21.25\00:12:23.46 if God can change and work in your life... 00:12:23.50\00:12:25.67 He can change my life... 00:12:25.71\00:12:27.20 you've been where I've been so I know that where 00:12:27.24\00:12:30.29 you are going... I can go too... 00:12:30.32\00:12:31.79 and we just always want 00:12:31.83\00:12:33.73 to keep them directed with Jesus... because if people 00:12:33.76\00:12:35.70 are just looking at me... and then I get irritated 00:12:35.73\00:12:38.23 or frustrated... I don't represent Christ rightly... 00:12:38.26\00:12:40.69 we want them to continue in their relationship with Jesus. 00:12:40.72\00:12:43.08 So, that's what it's about... Absolutely, you don't want to 00:12:43.12\00:12:45.45 be exalted... you want Christ to be exalted... 00:12:45.48\00:12:48.51 Amen... That's how it's supposed to be 00:12:48.55\00:12:50.08 because when man looks at man you know, we make mistakes... 00:12:50.11\00:12:53.23 we mess up... but Christ... if He is lifted up... 00:12:53.26\00:12:57.03 He'll draw all men unto Him... He'll draw all men unto Him... 00:12:57.07\00:12:59.55 so, that's great... so the children of inmates are 00:12:59.58\00:13:03.38 uniquely affected by the incarceration of their parents, 00:13:03.42\00:13:07.55 the fatherlessness... you know, when mom's are gone... 00:13:07.59\00:13:11.69 so, tell us again about what you have 00:13:11.73\00:13:14.90 in this package... that children can get involved in 00:13:14.93\00:13:18.47 to send to their parents... Amen... and I do want to say 00:13:18.50\00:13:21.81 for all the children out there in the world today 00:13:21.84\00:13:24.35 who do have people behind bars, moms or dads... 00:13:24.39\00:13:26.82 I just want them to know that "Daddy still loves you... 00:13:26.86\00:13:30.31 Mommy still loves you... " even though there might have 00:13:30.35\00:13:33.71 been abuse... there might have been beatings, 00:13:33.75\00:13:35.54 the crack... the alcoholic stupors 00:13:35.57\00:13:37.68 and right now... 00:13:37.72\00:13:39.41 they love their children more than ever 00:13:39.44\00:13:41.58 because they can think and their heart yearns to be reconnected 00:13:41.62\00:13:45.06 with their children... so, if Daddy can make a decision 00:13:45.10\00:13:47.97 for Christ... if Mommy... if the children can make a 00:13:48.00\00:13:50.21 decision for Christ... how is it that they'll be able 00:13:50.24\00:13:52.41 on that glorious day when Christ comes back 00:13:52.45\00:13:54.46 because God's been working together... 00:13:54.49\00:13:56.43 Anybody... out there today that knows of anybody 00:13:56.46\00:14:00.69 that's incarcerated... can go online at 00:14:00.72\00:14:03.07 christmasbehindbars. org there's a form that they can 00:14:03.11\00:14:06.04 fill out for their friend, loved one, mom or dad, 00:14:06.07\00:14:08.97 that's in prison... send it to us... 00:14:09.00\00:14:10.89 they'll fill it out right there and what we'll do is 00:14:10.92\00:14:13.07 we'll send this information pack to those that are incarcerated, 00:14:13.11\00:14:17.11 inside this information pack... those that are incarcerated 00:14:17.14\00:14:20.16 they can sign their children up for, "Your Story Hour" 00:14:20.20\00:14:23.36 "Adventures in the Holy Bible" the inmates can sign up 00:14:23.40\00:14:26.53 for the offers that 3abn offers for inmates... 00:14:26.56\00:14:29.24 there are a lot of Bible studies and a lot of book offers 00:14:29.28\00:14:31.82 so, here it is... the children are actually 00:14:31.85\00:14:33.98 encouraging mom and dad that's in prison... 00:14:34.01\00:14:35.79 they'll say, "Wow, where did that come from?" 00:14:35.82\00:14:37.53 you know, it came from whoever the viewer is today... 00:14:37.56\00:14:40.06 and then... they have an opportunity that something 00:14:40.09\00:14:42.60 might show up at their doorstep this information pack 00:14:42.63\00:14:45.07 from the one that's incarcerated so how beautiful is that? 00:14:45.11\00:14:48.00 Wow, you know, one of the things that's so sad to me 00:14:48.03\00:14:51.10 is the disconnection... the family is torn... 00:14:51.14\00:14:55.65 and the issue of fatherlessness is a huge sociological issue 00:14:55.68\00:15:02.34 because... when the man is gone 00:15:02.38\00:15:04.94 that house-band... 00:15:04.98\00:15:07.04 that one that's to be the provider and protector 00:15:07.08\00:15:09.83 is no longer there... so the children can be depressed 00:15:09.87\00:15:13.51 they have a lot of anti-social behavior 00:15:13.54\00:15:16.07 they drop out from school... all these things happen 00:15:16.10\00:15:19.77 because the family is broken and I've... 00:15:19.80\00:15:23.82 on Dare to Dream 00:15:23.85\00:15:25.25 we are very big on promoting the family 00:15:25.28\00:15:29.15 and things that are going to make a difference in the family, 00:15:29.19\00:15:31.68 this is huge because it will 00:15:31.71\00:15:33.86 allow people to... 00:15:33.89\00:15:35.22 first of all... the inmates will get mail... 00:15:35.26\00:15:37.19 Amen... Right... which is... 00:15:37.22\00:15:38.63 someone told me that this inmate said that 00:15:38.67\00:15:41.24 it's like gold 00:15:41.28\00:15:42.41 to just get a letter... I mean... I bet you... 00:15:42.44\00:15:44.96 even junk mail... stuff we throw out, you know, 00:15:44.99\00:15:48.15 would be so welcomed because it's a link to outside 00:15:48.18\00:15:51.34 so, now you have... a link with a purpose 00:15:51.38\00:15:54.65 right... because you are connecting people 00:15:54.69\00:15:57.97 to the Word of God, and to the Gospel... 00:15:58.00\00:16:01.21 so they have hope now, they are getting reconnected 00:16:01.25\00:16:04.40 with their families... all by the... 00:16:04.43\00:16:06.56 this is a great, great outreach... 00:16:06.60\00:16:08.66 a great evangelistic tool, tell us some of the other things 00:16:08.70\00:16:12.53 that Christmas Behind Bars is doing... 00:16:12.57\00:16:14.37 On the note of mail... one inmate actually said that he 00:16:14.41\00:16:16.99 signed up for the Bible studies just to get free mail... 00:16:17.03\00:16:19.58 Hmmm... Just to get a mail call 00:16:19.62\00:16:21.80 just to have his name called, "Donald, you got mail... " 00:16:21.83\00:16:23.84 and then he began sending those back... his heart begins to... 00:16:23.88\00:16:27.08 the heart of stone become a heart of flesh 00:16:27.11\00:16:29.20 and then he begins to share the gospel with his parents... 00:16:29.23\00:16:31.50 and his parents surrender their lives to Christ 00:16:31.53\00:16:33.60 so that's how the ripple effect goes... 00:16:33.63\00:16:35.38 that God has an original purpose for each and every one 00:16:35.41\00:16:38.04 of our lives... Jonah... defied God's purpose 00:16:38.07\00:16:41.61 for his life and ran from God... but yet when he surrendered 00:16:41.65\00:16:44.71 his life to Christ... God came back and flipped it 00:16:44.74\00:16:46.86 and used Jonah for His original mission to go into that 00:16:46.90\00:16:49.60 wicked city and God wants to reclaim us and take us 00:16:49.64\00:16:52.27 into that original purpose... Christmas Behind Bars has now 00:16:52.31\00:16:55.53 got their sights on the Cook County Jail... 00:16:55.56\00:16:58.52 in Northern Illinois... 11,000 men and women are 00:16:58.56\00:17:02.64 incarcerated in the Cook County Jail... 00:17:02.68\00:17:04.31 biggest jail ever... 00:17:04.35\00:17:06.55 I've thought about... by taking gift packages to that jail... 00:17:06.58\00:17:09.68 we just did a State of 30,000 packages in Virginia 00:17:09.71\00:17:12.74 there's a truck that's coming next week to take packages 00:17:12.77\00:17:16.01 to Minnesota... we got packages that are 00:17:16.05\00:17:18.18 going to Kentucky or Arkansas, amongst all the State of Indiana 00:17:18.22\00:17:22.12 so, Indiana still keeps... 00:17:22.16\00:17:23.28 we still try to keep our brothers and sisters 00:17:23.31\00:17:25.72 in Indiana supplied but God is growing the work in great places 00:17:25.76\00:17:30.13 there is a Program called... it's called, "Bridging the Gap" 00:17:30.16\00:17:34.49 and we put an application in the gift package... 00:17:34.53\00:17:38.70 that the inmates can sign their children up 00:17:38.73\00:17:40.91 that there would be a family member... 00:17:40.95\00:17:42.92 or there would be a Church-family member... 00:17:42.96\00:17:44.90 go and visit the inmate's family... 00:17:44.93\00:17:46.98 so it's called, Bridging the Gap 00:17:47.02\00:17:48.85 and so the inmates will send those to us 00:17:48.88\00:17:50.62 and then we try to forward those to different Churches 00:17:50.65\00:17:52.82 and Organizations, that somebody will take 00:17:52.85\00:17:54.97 those children coloring books, that somebody will 00:17:55.01\00:17:57.13 show up and bring them a bag of groceries... 00:17:57.16\00:17:58.47 that someone would answer a phone call to connect 00:17:58.51\00:18:01.00 with mom who's distraught... you know... 00:18:01.04\00:18:03.10 and so that's really a neat Program 00:18:03.14\00:18:05.51 that we're trying to undertake. That's great... so you have some 00:18:05.54\00:18:09.62 way to... kind of do some kind of intervention 00:18:09.65\00:18:13.62 with that family. A little bit... 00:18:13.65\00:18:15.07 we're just starting, we get all the requests back 00:18:15.10\00:18:17.64 and then we sent them to the Conference 00:18:17.68\00:18:19.02 and then the Conference tries to distribute those 00:18:19.05\00:18:21.07 to different Churches... and now the inmate's family 00:18:21.11\00:18:23.10 has already requested that you come 00:18:23.14\00:18:25.01 and visit them... that means... 00:18:25.05\00:18:26.85 how cool is that... you got an open invitation 00:18:26.89\00:18:28.74 to come and visit them... Yes... 00:18:28.77\00:18:30.12 we're hoping that that Program 00:18:30.15\00:18:31.43 will continue to grow... And hopefully... to invite them 00:18:31.46\00:18:34.05 to your Church... Amen... 00:18:34.09\00:18:35.29 so that they'll start coming to Church... then maybe 00:18:35.32\00:18:37.15 when the inmate comes out and he's already found the Lord 00:18:37.19\00:18:41.10 he'll come to Church... it's a great way... 00:18:41.14\00:18:43.43 to begin to build the Church... Right... we spend thousands of 00:18:43.47\00:18:47.13 dollars on Evangelistic Seminars cold calling people... 00:18:47.17\00:18:50.72 and this is a warm invitation, 00:18:50.76\00:18:52.24 "Hey, would you come and visit me... " 00:18:52.28\00:18:53.63 to knock on their door and do something for their family 00:18:53.66\00:18:55.81 or for their children... so that's amazing... 00:18:55.84\00:18:57.93 Re-entry... Re-entry is a big need and so 00:18:57.97\00:19:00.24 Christmas Behind Bars... someone just donated a 00:19:00.28\00:19:02.74 40-year-old home... and so we're trying to 00:19:02.78\00:19:05.17 dry-wall it, we need appliances, we need carpet... 00:19:05.21\00:19:07.71 we need all kinds of stuff we'll probably help 00:19:07.74\00:19:10.80 3 or 4... not a lot... get out of prison and begin 00:19:10.84\00:19:13.82 changing their lives... transitioning back into society, 00:19:13.86\00:19:16.35 I got a man that's getting... I have a man... and that's 00:19:16.39\00:19:19.20 correct language... I got a man, I have a man that's getting 00:19:19.23\00:19:22.00 out of prison next month... and so we're preparing 00:19:22.04\00:19:24.31 this home for him... that he will have an approved address 00:19:24.35\00:19:27.11 and just keep us in your prayers on that note... re-entering... 00:19:27.14\00:19:29.61 Is it like a half-way house? Yeah, it's going to be... 00:19:29.64\00:19:33.26 we're kind of the mentors and we have other volunteers 00:19:33.30\00:19:36.89 who've gotten out of prison... all our volunteers 00:19:36.92\00:19:39.07 have been in prison for the most part... 00:19:39.11\00:19:40.73 And so... They can totally relate to 00:19:40.76\00:19:42.29 to the people that are coming out. 00:19:42.32\00:19:43.89 Yeah, and encourage and include them and, I mean, 00:19:43.92\00:19:45.74 you have to do all kinds of things... 00:19:45.78\00:19:47.53 you have to get a letter to get a driver's license... 00:19:47.56\00:19:49.49 the list goes on and on... but so, Christmas Behind Bars 00:19:49.52\00:19:51.41 is endeavoring to assist people 00:19:51.45\00:19:54.57 as they are being released from prison... 00:19:54.61\00:19:57.24 That is such an important factor because one of the things 00:19:57.28\00:20:01.27 that I found with people in my own family... 00:20:01.31\00:20:03.87 that have been incarcerated and then released... 00:20:03.90\00:20:06.43 What do you do when you come out? 00:20:06.46\00:20:08.53 You're shut out... because... if you have a felony, 00:20:08.57\00:20:11.33 you are shut out... it's hard to get a job, 00:20:11.36\00:20:13.25 it's hard to find housing because you have a record 00:20:13.29\00:20:17.03 and when they do those background checks... 00:20:17.07\00:20:19.24 you're shut out... 00:20:19.28\00:20:20.55 so, how do you re-enter society? 00:20:20.58\00:20:23.45 That's why on Dare to Dream, we have "The New Journey" 00:20:23.49\00:20:26.28 you know, we have "Free Indeed" we're really trying to 00:20:26.32\00:20:29.08 reach out to those who've been incarcerated... 00:20:29.11\00:20:31.61 and say, "There are some options... there are some 00:20:31.65\00:20:34.56 resources here... " Does Christmas Behind Bars 00:20:34.59\00:20:37.43 offer resources as well to inmates as they come out? 00:20:37.47\00:20:41.27 We're trying to... we can send food vouchers to 00:20:41.30\00:20:43.71 people in our own Community but as far as being able to 00:20:43.75\00:20:46.73 supply people with clothes and suits and cars 00:20:46.76\00:20:49.56 and all that... that's just huge... 00:20:49.60\00:20:50.79 and so right now it's just the beginning stage 00:20:50.83\00:20:53.23 stage of that... but we're trying to work... 00:20:53.26\00:20:55.57 that way and see what God will do... 00:20:55.60\00:20:57.32 What you guys are doing is so awesome... 00:20:57.36\00:20:59.21 Tell our viewers what your needs are... 00:20:59.24\00:21:01.28 What does Christmas Behind Bars need? 00:21:01.31\00:21:03.28 Well, we need willing people to help sponsor these new States 00:21:03.32\00:21:07.44 Minnesota, Arkansas, Cook County Jail... 00:21:07.48\00:21:10.19 it's just not going to happen by itself... 00:21:10.23\00:21:11.91 because 11,000 packages like this... 00:21:11.95\00:21:15.23 would probably will cost $3 to $4 a piece... 00:21:15.27\00:21:19.22 I mean we get toothbrushes for 8 to 10 cents a piece... 00:21:19.25\00:21:22.90 that's great... the books are probably 0.89 cents a piece, 00:21:22.93\00:21:25.66 the list goes on and on... and so we need sponsors... 00:21:25.70\00:21:28.40 $11,000 times... I mean... whatever... 00:21:28.43\00:21:30.57 so... financial resources... we need Bibles... used Bibles 00:21:30.60\00:21:34.27 used or new Bibles... they can be hard cover or 00:21:34.30\00:21:36.18 soft cover... so we need Bibles. If they're written in already 00:21:36.21\00:21:40.63 can you use that? So, Sister, let me tell you 00:21:40.66\00:21:42.03 something... if they're written in... that makes them twice 00:21:42.06\00:21:43.73 as valuable... because somebody that hasn't read the 00:21:43.77\00:21:45.95 Word of God... they don't even know 00:21:45.99\00:21:47.18 where to start... but if it's underlined 00:21:47.21\00:21:49.00 or if it's highlighted... they open up and say, 00:21:49.03\00:21:50.69 "Wow, I'll read whatever is important to somebody else... 00:21:50.73\00:21:52.68 I'll read over here... and so, yeah, that's a real blessing 00:21:52.72\00:21:55.73 so they just box them up they gather them up... 00:21:55.77\00:21:58.06 they ship them to us... at Christmas Behind Bars 00:21:58.09\00:22:00.35 they go online... get our address... 00:22:00.39\00:22:01.94 send to Christmas Behind Bars, we'll take those Bibles 00:22:01.97\00:22:03.87 we'll go through them... we'll make sure that there's no 00:22:03.90\00:22:06.06 personal information in them and then we box them up 00:22:06.09\00:22:08.21 and then we take them down to the Prison... 00:22:08.25\00:22:10.25 so, that's amazing... Oh, that's so great... 00:22:10.29\00:22:12.39 I know people so appreciate that... 00:22:12.43\00:22:14.47 they've got to appreciate that, okay, so you need Bibles, 00:22:14.50\00:22:17.79 you need funds, of course, donations, 00:22:17.83\00:22:21.69 do you need volunteers? We do... 00:22:21.72\00:22:23.45 we do need volunteers to come down to the jails and 00:22:23.48\00:22:25.85 prisons... wherever we're going, to come and sing 00:22:25.89\00:22:28.23 and help pass out packages, I want you to know 00:22:28.27\00:22:30.49 that the Potomac Conference in Virginia... 00:22:30.53\00:22:33.27 they had probably about 30 volunteers to come 00:22:33.31\00:22:36.12 and help us deliver this... last 15,000 packages 00:22:36.16\00:22:38.90 and it was just a great blessing and they told us that 00:22:38.93\00:22:41.89 what they had been trying to do for 13 years... 00:22:41.92\00:22:44.94 they said, "God did... in about a year... " 00:22:44.97\00:22:48.44 they said, three weeks... but it's taken a year 00:22:48.48\00:22:49.92 to get all 30,000 packages in the State of Virginia... 00:22:49.95\00:22:52.59 but they've been trying to get in every prison 00:22:52.63\00:22:54.56 in the State of Virginia, it took them 13 years... 00:22:54.60\00:22:56.46 and it still hadn't happened, but God opened the door... 00:22:56.50\00:22:58.67 just wide open... to where we had the privilege 00:22:58.70\00:23:01.23 of going to every prison cell, every man and woman 00:23:01.27\00:23:03.76 and give them a gift package... tell them that Jesus loves them, 00:23:03.80\00:23:06.30 don't give up... there's hope in the world today... 00:23:06.34\00:23:08.39 even though the CNN News makes it look like... 00:23:08.42\00:23:10.43 just all the negative stuff that we see in the news media 00:23:10.47\00:23:13.53 doesn't bring us hope... Yes, yes, what are 00:23:13.56\00:23:16.12 some of the of the conditions... inside... you know, 00:23:16.16\00:23:18.64 as a person who's... I've been sheltered, basically, 00:23:18.68\00:23:22.54 so I don't really know, like, what it looks like 00:23:22.58\00:23:26.19 deep inside the jail... I know what it's like 00:23:26.22\00:23:29.76 if you go to visit someone, but internally, like, 00:23:29.79\00:23:32.97 what's it like... in there? 00:23:33.00\00:23:34.83 I'll tell you what it's like... Sister... internally 00:23:34.87\00:23:37.70 when all of your life consists of a little package here 00:23:37.73\00:23:40.52 you got a few socks, a few underwear, 00:23:40.56\00:23:42.36 a few cosmetics, a few things, 00:23:42.39\00:23:44.05 your whole life consists of nothing more than this... 00:23:44.09\00:23:46.50 so whether you go to segregation or whether you have a job, 00:23:46.54\00:23:49.66 or whether you got to school or whatever it is you still do 00:23:49.70\00:23:52.79 your whole life consists of little or nothing... 00:23:52.82\00:23:55.47 but if you have Jesus, He will blow that up and 00:23:55.51\00:23:58.13 He will magnify it and He will bless it... 00:23:58.16\00:23:59.60 and I've had inmate after inmate tell me that they've got 00:23:59.63\00:24:01.82 more peace, and more happiness, and more joy 00:24:01.86\00:24:03.93 than they ever had in the world, and if they wouldn't 00:24:03.97\00:24:06.21 have been incarcerated... arrested for a moment in time 00:24:06.25\00:24:08.46 that they could refocus 00:24:08.50\00:24:09.98 they would probably be dead... so multitudes realize 00:24:10.01\00:24:12.83 that this is their time period that they can grow... 00:24:12.86\00:24:15.07 a lot of people in the world say "Well, that's just 00:24:15.11\00:24:17.29 jailhouse religion... they just got Christ... 00:24:17.32\00:24:19.68 they're just weak... " No... it takes a strong man 00:24:19.71\00:24:22.04 or woman... especially in the penitentiary 00:24:22.07\00:24:24.06 to say, "I'm going to follow Jesus, I'm not a part 00:24:24.09\00:24:26.34 of the gang no more, I had a dude write to me... " 00:24:26.37\00:24:28.06 and He said that he gave up the Latino Gang 00:24:28.10\00:24:29.72 blah, blah, blah, blah, blah... he said, "Now, it's harder 00:24:29.76\00:24:32.07 externally it's harder... " but he got more joy... 00:24:32.10\00:24:34.76 and more peace now... than he ever had before... 00:24:34.79\00:24:36.68 so, if God be for us... finish it out Sister... 00:24:36.71\00:24:38.90 ...who can be against us... who can be against us... Amen... 00:24:38.93\00:24:40.50 Right... God is so good, and He reaches into 00:24:40.53\00:24:44.15 wherever you are... Amen... 00:24:44.18\00:24:46.26 He reaches you wherever you are The ghetto, the neighborhood, 00:24:46.29\00:24:49.32 the alcoholic stupor... Yes... yes... yes... 00:24:49.35\00:24:52.19 the dope house... He's calling and wooing... 00:24:52.23\00:24:55.03 What I'm finding now, Brother Lemuel, is 00:24:55.06\00:24:57.28 things are wrapping up... Amen Sister... 00:24:57.32\00:24:59.50 and so, this is the time... that's why I believe 00:24:59.54\00:25:02.11 God is opening the doors for us... 00:25:02.14\00:25:04.25 all over... I mean... just opening the door 00:25:04.28\00:25:06.37 so we can reach people and let them know 00:25:06.40\00:25:08.29 there's a God that loves you... 00:25:08.33\00:25:10.15 and come out... even if you're incarcerated... 00:25:10.19\00:25:13.02 you can come out from that mindset... 00:25:13.05\00:25:14.89 and be free indeed... Amen... 00:25:14.93\00:25:16.88 and so, that's what... that's why I know 00:25:16.91\00:25:19.07 you're about... with your ministry... 00:25:19.11\00:25:21.05 I want you to look into your camera 00:25:21.09\00:25:22.96 and I want you to speak to that inmate 00:25:23.00\00:25:26.27 that doesn't know Jesus... that inmate that 00:25:26.31\00:25:30.88 is where you used to be... what would you say to him... 00:25:30.91\00:25:34.42 My Brother, my Sister... wherever you are 00:25:34.45\00:25:37.13 in the world today... little children at home 00:25:37.17\00:25:39.78 without mommies and daddies... perhaps you've gotten in trouble 00:25:39.81\00:25:42.75 in school today... there's hope for your life 00:25:42.78\00:25:45.26 and I found true freedom... in and through... 00:25:45.30\00:25:47.76 a personal relationship with Jesus Christ... 00:25:47.79\00:25:50.19 a derelict, drug-addicted, sin-sick, alcoholic, 00:25:50.22\00:25:53.69 wife abuser... whatever it was, my life was just in turmoil 00:25:53.73\00:25:57.95 and I asked Christ for help in my life... 00:25:57.98\00:26:00.04 you may be a doctor, you may be a lawyer, 00:26:00.07\00:26:02.06 you might be in a high-rise office building today... 00:26:02.09\00:26:04.32 and whatever your addiction may be... 00:26:04.35\00:26:05.92 it may be porn addiction, it may be alcohol addiction, 00:26:05.96\00:26:08.32 whatever it is... Jesus is the answer... 00:26:08.36\00:26:11.08 He will heal... and mend the brokenness 00:26:11.11\00:26:13.80 that sin has caused in your life 00:26:13.84\00:26:16.01 and in our world today... through your surrender 00:26:16.05\00:26:18.97 to Christ... He will empower you, 00:26:19.00\00:26:21.10 you will be able to walk in newness of life 00:26:21.14\00:26:24.00 experiencing peace, joy, hope, in the midst of a turbulent time 00:26:24.04\00:26:29.24 Jesus is coming soon, and I look forward 00:26:29.27\00:26:32.29 to seeing you, my Brother, my Sister, my Friend, 00:26:32.33\00:26:35.40 in the Kingdom of Heaven, at 2 o'clock in the morning... 00:26:35.44\00:26:37.91 you done had a shoot-out with the police... 00:26:37.94\00:26:40.46 and you hang this out the window what does this mean? 00:26:40.50\00:26:42.95 that means... I surrender... how much are you surrendering 00:26:42.99\00:26:46.59 at this point? You're willing to surrender all 00:26:46.62\00:26:50.04 and I'm asking you right now 00:26:50.07\00:26:52.30 to kneel down and ask Jesus... as I did... 16 years ago... 00:26:52.34\00:26:57.04 "Dear Jesus, please help me I want to quit, but I can't, 00:26:57.08\00:27:01.75 dear Heavenly Father, I pray that you will bless 00:27:01.79\00:27:04.56 every decision just now, to bring honor and glory 00:27:04.60\00:27:07.31 unto you that we may meet others in the Kingdom of Heaven 00:27:07.34\00:27:10.20 in Jesus name I pray... Amen... Amen... 00:27:10.23\00:27:13.74 Sister Yvonne, it's been a privilege to be with you 00:27:13.78\00:27:16.01 you asked me what we need, we need a semi-truck... 00:27:16.05\00:27:18.18 Okay... We have two semi-trailers 00:27:18.22\00:27:20.82 but we need a semi-truck to get that product... down the highway 00:27:20.86\00:27:23.38 All right... well you know what? by the grace of God... 00:27:23.41\00:27:26.27 you'll have that... 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