Stay tuned to meet a
man that's walking in his
00:00:00.96\00:00:03.06
divine destiny and helping
others... to find theirs...
00:00:03.10\00:00:06.67
My name is Yvonne
Lewis and you're watching
00:00:06.70\00:00:09.20
Urban Report...
00:00:09.24\00:00:10.61
Hello and
welcome to Urban Report
00:00:30.53\00:00:32.96
My guest today is Richard Bland
00:00:32.99\00:00:35.00
President and Founder of
United Prison Ministries.
00:00:35.03\00:00:38.47
Welcome to Urban
Report Brother Richard...
00:00:38.50\00:00:41.24
I'm happy to be
with you Yvonne...
00:00:41.27\00:00:42.77
It's so good to have you...
so, okay, some of our viewers
00:00:42.80\00:00:47.38
might know you...
but then... others don't
00:00:47.41\00:00:50.11
tell us a little bit about you
00:00:50.15\00:00:52.48
and how you got
involved in Prison Ministries...
00:00:52.51\00:00:55.68
Yvonne, how
many days do we have?
00:00:55.72\00:00:58.15
This is just a
30-minute program...
00:00:58.19\00:01:00.89
Prophetic time or what?
00:01:00.92\00:01:02.32
Real time... Oh,
real time... okay then,
00:01:02.36\00:01:04.56
quickly here, I grew
up in a Christian home...
00:01:04.59\00:01:07.83
and I went to Christian
Schools and then I went to EMC
00:01:07.86\00:01:13.40
Emmanuel Missionary College
00:01:13.44\00:01:14.54
of course, it's
Andrews University now
00:01:14.57\00:01:15.80
and then... from there
00:01:15.84\00:01:17.87
I started out in
the real estate business
00:01:17.91\00:01:19.67
a little bit in
Chicago but really got to
00:01:19.71\00:01:22.84
San Diego, California
where I really got involved
00:01:22.88\00:01:25.75
in the Real Estate business,
and the Lord blessed me
00:01:25.78\00:01:28.62
in that business and
I had the opportunity
00:01:28.65\00:01:30.45
to meet the leaders of
the Country like the Mayor
00:01:30.49\00:01:33.42
and the Governor and so forth,
the Governor Ronald Reagan
00:01:33.46\00:01:36.83
would happen to be the
Governor at this particular time
00:01:36.86\00:01:39.03
of my story... I
want to tell you about
00:01:39.06\00:01:40.90
and I became the President
of the San Diego Realtor Board
00:01:40.93\00:01:44.63
part of the San
Diego... from that...
00:01:44.67\00:01:47.64
I became... it was
a Bank that was needed
00:01:47.67\00:01:51.14
this was in the late
60s and money was tight
00:01:51.17\00:01:54.58
so, I became the
Founder of Pacific Coast Bank
00:01:54.61\00:01:57.98
in San Diego...
00:01:58.01\00:01:59.68
So you went from Real
Estate to being a Banker?
00:01:59.71\00:02:02.62
Well, Founder and Owner
of the Bank... really...
00:02:02.65\00:02:05.52
An Owner of a Bank...
00:02:05.55\00:02:06.99
I started out there
because of a certain situation
00:02:07.02\00:02:09.82
and it was with
the political thing...
00:02:09.86\00:02:11.89
and I'm saying
that for this reason
00:02:11.93\00:02:13.93
so, from that, Ronald
Reagan... at that time...
00:02:13.96\00:02:17.33
Richard Nixon was the
President of the United States
00:02:17.37\00:02:19.60
so Ronald Reagan recommended
that I be on Richard Nixon's
00:02:19.63\00:02:22.77
Advisory Board...
that's where my story
00:02:22.80\00:02:25.31
really picks up...
that changed my life,
00:02:25.34\00:02:28.84
well, I'll never
forget, it was June 1972
00:02:28.88\00:02:32.31
the President called
me... in fact he called my
00:02:32.35\00:02:35.02
Real Estate
Office and as I got home
00:02:35.05\00:02:37.75
my Secretary called and said,
"The President just called... "
00:02:37.79\00:02:39.62
I said, "What!" and so
I called the White House
00:02:39.65\00:02:42.26
then, he asked me
would I be one his members on
00:02:42.29\00:02:44.86
the Advisory Board there...
00:02:44.89\00:02:46.36
and so... my chest, you
know, went out... you know,
00:02:46.39\00:02:50.03
but it was all
the politics thing
00:02:50.07\00:02:51.97
but, this is what
happened, we met once a month
00:02:52.00\00:02:55.40
at the Congress Building,
right there at the White House
00:02:55.44\00:02:57.77
but this particular day
00:02:57.81\00:02:59.34
by me being a vegetarian
00:02:59.37\00:03:00.81
I had never eaten
anything that had a mother
00:03:00.84\00:03:02.58
so, I said, "If it doesn't grow
on the ground, it's not mine. "
00:03:02.61\00:03:05.68
Mother or a
face... Mother or a face...
00:03:05.71\00:03:07.95
so, if it doesn't grown
on the vine, it's not mine...
00:03:07.98\00:03:11.09
so, this particular day...
as we got in... to eat lunch
00:03:11.12\00:03:14.32
I told the maître d' that
I wanted the vegetable plate
00:03:14.36\00:03:17.26
well, naturally, my
food is not ready right now
00:03:17.29\00:03:20.13
but it didn't
take but 4 or 5 minutes
00:03:20.16\00:03:21.86
because they got
everything you think about
00:03:21.90\00:03:23.43
at the White House
for food, you know,
00:03:23.47\00:03:24.93
so, as the members put
down the other plates of food
00:03:24.97\00:03:28.14
take the top off of,
you know, I think they had
00:03:28.17\00:03:31.04
filet mignon
whatever you call that
00:03:31.07\00:03:32.94
he skipped over me... so
when the guy skipped over me
00:03:32.97\00:03:36.01
the guy sitting next to me said,
00:03:36.04\00:03:37.78
"Hey, you passed him up... "
00:03:37.81\00:03:39.48
I said, "Well, that's what
you White folks do inside the
00:03:39.51\00:03:41.22
White House... " He
laughed just like you...
00:03:41.25\00:03:43.49
he said, "No, no,
no, no" He got nervous?
00:03:43.52\00:03:45.55
Yeah, he got
nervous... but it was okay...
00:03:45.59\00:03:47.59
they were just senators on the
Board... 89 of them... you know
00:03:47.62\00:03:50.29
so, and the guy didn't hear him
00:03:50.33\00:03:52.86
because the guy had
gone on with his business
00:03:52.89\00:03:54.93
but then, when the
guy brought me my food
00:03:54.93\00:03:56.80
he set it down
there... and he said,
00:03:56.83\00:03:59.17
"Bland, why do you
eat that?" you know,
00:03:59.20\00:04:01.44
so, it so
happened... he was the President
00:04:01.47\00:04:04.07
of General Motors that
asked me that question,
00:04:04.11\00:04:06.14
well years ago, the
new car used to come out
00:04:06.17\00:04:08.91
in September... I don't
know if you remember that
00:04:08.94\00:04:10.65
but September was
the month they came out
00:04:10.68\00:04:13.01
for the following year,
so, coming on the plane to
00:04:13.05\00:04:18.02
San Diego... I saw the new
Cadillac that had just come out
00:04:18.05\00:04:20.42
and so I asked him,
"What did you put in the glove
00:04:20.46\00:04:23.12
compartment of the
car?" He said, "A manual... "
00:04:23.16\00:04:25.06
I said, "What for?" He
said, "To operate the car"
00:04:25.09\00:04:26.93
I said, "Well, suppose...
the person doesn't follow it?"
00:04:26.96\00:04:29.40
He said, "Then the guarantee
of the car will be off... "
00:04:29.43\00:04:31.87
I said, "Why will
the guarantee be off?"
00:04:31.90\00:04:33.84
He said, "We made the car,
and so we know what it takes
00:04:33.87\00:04:36.77
to run the car
and maintain it... "
00:04:36.81\00:04:39.04
Come on... and I
pull out my little Bible
00:04:39.07\00:04:41.04
Oh, come on now... and
I said, "When God made me
00:04:41.08\00:04:43.71
and He made you, He
told what to put in this body
00:04:43.75\00:04:46.25
He told us how to
maintain it and all of that... "
00:04:46.28\00:04:49.25
and from that
conversation quickly... he said,
00:04:49.28\00:04:51.59
"Look, we don't
believe that stuff up here... "
00:04:51.62\00:04:53.89
the Bible and all the
stuff that I'm sharing with him
00:04:53.92\00:04:56.79
from the Bible... so
after lunch we sat in the
00:04:56.83\00:04:59.66
corner for about two
hours and we got to talking
00:04:59.69\00:05:02.46
and I'll never
forget these words...
00:05:02.50\00:05:04.07
since we're not
running on prophetic time...
00:05:04.10\00:05:06.80
he said to me, he said,
00:05:06.84\00:05:08.24
"Bland, did you
know by the year 2000
00:05:08.27\00:05:10.54
there will be no more war,
no more cancer, no more crime,
00:05:10.57\00:05:14.68
we got the answers to
all of that up here... "
00:05:14.71\00:05:16.71
and I'm showing him, I
said, "according to the Bible
00:05:16.75\00:05:18.78
it's going to get
worse and worse and worse,
00:05:18.81\00:05:20.78
and worse... " but
after about two hours
00:05:20.82\00:05:23.15
he looked at me and
this is what he said to me,
00:05:23.18\00:05:24.89
he says, "If you believe that
book.. what are you doing here?"
00:05:24.92\00:05:27.52
Hmmm... hmmm... I
said, "What do you mean?"
00:05:27.56\00:05:30.36
he said, "You
showed me in the book
00:05:30.39\00:05:32.79
that God would take
care of all of your needs...
00:05:32.83\00:05:34.30
you showed me that
you're working for Him. "
00:05:34.36\00:05:35.76
he said, "If a man was working
for me... at General Motors...
00:05:35.80\00:05:39.37
he'd better not be working
part-time at Chrysler... "
00:05:39.40\00:05:42.47
Come on now... Wow!
00:05:42.50\00:05:46.14
Yvonne, that was
the longest ride...
00:05:46.17\00:05:50.45
mentally I had in my
life... in the airplane...
00:05:50.48\00:05:52.78
to San Diego...
coming from Washington, D.C.
00:05:52.81\00:05:55.25
back to San Diego... you
notice, I said... "mentally"
00:05:55.28\00:05:57.59
my wife and I...
we just came back
00:05:57.62\00:05:59.35
from New Zealand
which is about 32 hours
00:05:59.39\00:06:01.22
this year already... but
that wasn't the longest ride
00:06:01.26\00:06:04.03
as that ride was... I
said, "Suppose he's right... "
00:06:04.06\00:06:07.10
He said, "What are you
doing in here... because...?"
00:06:07.13\00:06:10.47
He thought that
it was a compromise?
00:06:10.50\00:06:12.90
Well it is...
00:06:12.93\00:06:14.00
To be an advisor
to the President?
00:06:14.04\00:06:16.27
No, to be up there
with those crooks and stuff
00:06:16.30\00:06:19.84
and dealing with
them... and I had showed him
00:06:19.87\00:06:23.38
in the Bible...
where as a Christian...
00:06:23.41\00:06:25.01
we have to go all the
world to preach the gospel...
00:06:25.05\00:06:27.35
and God will take
care of all our needs...
00:06:27.38\00:06:28.58
remember, I'm skipping over
a lot that we talked about...
00:06:28.62\00:06:31.49
he is very brilliant...
because he's the President
00:06:31.52\00:06:33.92
of General Motors, he
told me what I had already
00:06:33.96\00:06:36.29
showed him in the Bible,
see... he gave it back to me...
00:06:36.32\00:06:39.73
he said, "If," you know,
"if you were working for me... "
00:06:39.76\00:06:43.13
and God was taking
care of all your needs... "
00:06:43.16\00:06:45.30
I was telling him that God
maintains us and gives us breath
00:06:45.33\00:06:47.94
and all that stuff... Right...
00:06:47.97\00:06:49.27
but then still...
what was I doing part-time?
00:06:49.30\00:06:51.51
I'm up there working
with all these people...
00:06:51.54\00:06:53.91
and he told the truth...
they don't believe it...
00:06:53.94\00:06:56.08
they don't believe in
the Word of God up there...
00:06:56.11\00:06:58.25
just a lot of
politics, you know,
00:06:58.28\00:06:59.78
and so, what am I doing there?
00:06:59.81\00:07:01.48
He said, "If you believe that
book, what are you doing here?"
00:07:01.52\00:07:03.39
Wow! So, now, I'm on my way back
00:07:03.42\00:07:07.59
to San Diego... I knew
I could sell real estate,
00:07:07.62\00:07:09.52
I knew... any given
week during that time...
00:07:09.56\00:07:11.46
I can make 10 to
15 thousand dollars...
00:07:11.49\00:07:13.29
but I knew... some
atheists could too...
00:07:13.33\00:07:15.96
and, I said, "Well,
wait a minute now... "
00:07:16.00\00:07:18.63
as I was reading in my Bible,
00:07:18.67\00:07:21.27
everybody that found
Jesus what did they do?
00:07:21.30\00:07:24.91
they stopped what they
were doing and followed Him...
00:07:24.94\00:07:27.44
check it out... everybody...
whether they were doctors
00:07:27.48\00:07:29.91
tax collectors or
whoever they were...
00:07:29.94\00:07:32.05
because Jesus said,
"I have appointed you,
00:07:32.08\00:07:34.12
I have ordained you... "
like it says in John 15:16
00:07:34.15\00:07:37.85
so, that got me to thinking...
00:07:37.89\00:07:39.19
What! I am working part-time
00:07:39.22\00:07:42.26
for the Lord...
00:07:42.29\00:07:43.76
I was a part-time
person, and if you look at
00:07:43.79\00:07:45.86
Matthew the 7th I
think the 21st or 23rd verse
00:07:45.89\00:07:49.13
it says that...
some people will say,
00:07:49.16\00:07:50.80
"Lord I did this, in your
name, I did that in your name,
00:07:50.83\00:07:53.07
then He said,
"I never... " what?
00:07:53.10\00:07:54.50
"... knew you,
depart from me... "
00:07:54.54\00:07:56.17
Why? because...
you're a part-time worker...
00:07:56.20\00:07:57.51
Would you have a
part-time husband?
00:07:57.54\00:07:59.81
No... Okay then,
neither does God...
00:07:59.84\00:08:02.04
so I'm just telling you
now, what affected me...
00:08:02.08\00:08:04.18
so, from that... to
cut the long story...
00:08:04.21\00:08:07.58
I said, "Well, Lord, what
can I do for you full-time...?"
00:08:07.62\00:08:11.52
well, everybody can
eat... my wife's a good cook
00:08:11.55\00:08:13.62
so I said, "What
we need to do... "
00:08:13.66\00:08:15.12
Ray Kroc was the
owner of McDonald's...
00:08:15.16\00:08:17.16
well, he's a
business acquaintance of mine
00:08:17.19\00:08:18.96
in San Diego at the time,
00:08:18.99\00:08:20.06
this was back in
the 70s... so, I said,
00:08:20.10\00:08:22.00
"If he can open up
McDonald's all over the world...
00:08:22.03\00:08:23.97
I can open Health Food
stores all over the world... "
00:08:24.00\00:08:25.87
so after much prayer...
four years of lining it up
00:08:25.90\00:08:29.27
and all that stuff, we...
looking at the testimonies
00:08:29.30\00:08:32.57
we said, "Anything you start,
you start it in the South. "
00:08:32.61\00:08:34.64
So, the Lord... with
a lot of intervention,
00:08:34.68\00:08:38.28
we ended up in
Birmingham, Alabama
00:08:38.31\00:08:40.52
to open up a
Health Food Restaurant...
00:08:40.55\00:08:42.32
we were going to open up,
00:08:42.35\00:08:43.49
everywhere you
saw a McDonald's...
00:08:43.52\00:08:44.92
we were going to have
a Health Food Restaurant
00:08:44.95\00:08:47.92
saved a lot of
money... had 4 years of studying
00:08:47.96\00:08:50.89
and all that stuff,
00:08:50.93\00:08:51.99
got there... the
Lord closed the door...
00:08:52.03\00:08:54.20
after all the arrangements,
I won't go into that
00:08:54.20\00:08:57.00
that's a story within itself...
00:08:57.03\00:08:58.47
but the Lord closed the door,
00:08:58.50\00:09:00.24
and one day... I was
asked to go down to a prison
00:09:00.27\00:09:05.87
with an
interracial group of people...
00:09:05.91\00:09:08.31
inter-denominational
group of people...
00:09:08.34\00:09:10.75
Sister McKinnon...
and they wanted somebody
00:09:10.78\00:09:12.91
to go down with her...
so, we had a lot of materials
00:09:12.95\00:09:14.98
due to our restaurant
and stuff like that...
00:09:15.02\00:09:17.05
so I took with me,
about 200 of the books
00:09:17.09\00:09:19.99
Spirit of Prophecy books,
Steps to Christ... and so forth
00:09:20.02\00:09:22.42
you know, with me...
so I passed them out there
00:09:22.46\00:09:24.99
they had a huge
crowd... about 250 guys
00:09:25.03\00:09:27.40
and I passed them out...
the Chaplain, later on... saw me
00:09:27.40\00:09:32.30
he said, "You
know... " about 3 weeks later
00:09:32.33\00:09:34.57
he asked me for some...
00:09:34.60\00:09:35.87
I asked him... "could
the men have some tapes
00:09:35.90\00:09:37.84
that they could listen to...
" the Chaplain said, "Yeah"
00:09:37.87\00:09:40.48
well, C.D. Brooks had just run
a meeting in Washington, D.C.
00:09:40.51\00:09:43.11
beautiful tapes... they
talk about the Bible only,
00:09:43.14\00:09:46.95
you know, what
the Word of God is...
00:09:46.98\00:09:48.45
so I took them to the
Chaplain about 2 weeks later
00:09:48.48\00:09:51.09
and as I gave him the
tapes, he said to me...
00:09:51.12\00:09:53.76
he says,
00:09:53.79\00:09:54.89
"Those men really
love those books... "
00:09:54.92\00:09:56.39
I said, "What books?" He said,
"The books of E.G. White... "
00:09:56.42\00:09:58.23
he said, "I'd like to
have a 1,000 of them... "
00:09:58.26\00:10:00.50
I said, "A
thousand!" He said, "Yeah"
00:10:00.53\00:10:02.63
so the next day...
You got excited eh...
00:10:02.66\00:10:04.77
the next day, my wife and I...
00:10:04.80\00:10:05.87
we put a thousand
of them in the car
00:10:05.90\00:10:07.50
well, 10 boxes...
they had a 100 in each box,
00:10:07.54\00:10:09.54
got down there and
I opened up every box
00:10:09.57\00:10:12.47
when I saw the prison...
00:10:12.51\00:10:14.04
put an enrollment card in it
00:10:14.08\00:10:15.38
because I'm not ever going
to see these people anymore,
00:10:15.41\00:10:17.48
you know, because I
always fish with a hook,
00:10:17.51\00:10:19.98
when I give somebody
something I tell them, you know,
00:10:20.02\00:10:22.68
I want to know what
the answer is in two weeks,
00:10:22.72\00:10:24.55
or something like that...
Ah, wait, wait, wait, wait...
00:10:24.59\00:10:27.49
okay, wait now, say,
"you fish with a hook"
00:10:27.52\00:10:30.39
yeah... because that's the
only way you can catch a bait
00:10:30.43\00:10:32.06
because a lot of people
fish... without the bait,
00:10:32.09\00:10:34.40
you know, so when
I give you something,
00:10:34.46\00:10:36.16
I'm going to get
a response back...
00:10:36.20\00:10:37.90
Okay... I'll tell you,
00:10:37.93\00:10:39.07
"Look, this is the book
here I want to know your opinion
00:10:39.10\00:10:41.24
I'm taking a
survey, and I want to know
00:10:41.27\00:10:43.87
what you think of this...
he says, "Well, I'm a... "
00:10:43.91\00:10:45.64
"I don't care what you are"
00:10:45.67\00:10:46.81
I say, "That's
what I'm looking for
00:10:46.84\00:10:48.71
I'm looking for
people just like you
00:10:48.74\00:10:50.38
tell me what you think
of this book," you know
00:10:50.41\00:10:52.98
I kind of think you can
sell ice to an Eskimo...
00:10:53.01\00:10:57.55
I do... but anyway,
so what happens... though
00:10:57.59\00:11:02.06
in the meantime... the people
that I went down there with
00:11:02.09\00:11:05.26
had told me this... that it
takes 5 years to get inside...
00:11:05.29\00:11:08.36
of having a meeting... a
regular program in the prison
00:11:08.40\00:11:11.47
that's what they told me...
I'm just talking to... you know,
00:11:11.50\00:11:13.74
so that won't bother me because
I'm still looking over my resume
00:11:13.77\00:11:17.34
So, you still weren't even
thinking about Prison Ministries
00:11:17.37\00:11:20.48
Oh, no, no, no, no, no,
so, Ben told me 5 years...
00:11:20.51\00:11:24.61
so when I took the
boxes of books in there,
00:11:24.65\00:11:27.58
to the Chaplain that day,
00:11:27.62\00:11:29.82
he said, "Come on in
and meet the officers. "
00:11:29.85\00:11:31.99
I went in there, as
soon as I met the officers
00:11:32.02\00:11:34.46
my wife and I, he said,
00:11:34.49\00:11:35.59
"This is Mr. and Mrs.
Bland, they're going to start
00:11:35.62\00:11:37.16
a Bible Class here... " I
didn't know anything about it.
00:11:37.19\00:11:40.36
So, sure enough, 3
weeks later, we started...
00:11:40.40\00:11:43.73
now, what am I going to do?
I got there and told the man
00:11:43.77\00:11:46.33
I said, "Look,
whatever I'm talking about...
00:11:46.37\00:11:47.90
is going to be in the Bible,
we're going to study the Bible"
00:11:47.94\00:11:50.61
he said, "Okay" so
a group of the guys,
00:11:50.64\00:11:53.07
that night, said to me,
"What does the Bible say
00:11:53.11\00:11:55.98
about speaking in tongues?" I
told them what the Bible said,
00:11:56.01\00:11:58.88
then another group says...
00:11:58.91\00:12:00.48
This is the officers...
not the inmates, right
00:12:00.52\00:12:03.08
It's the inmates... Oh,
this is the inmates, ok, ok,
00:12:03.12\00:12:05.09
He told the officers that I
was going to start a Bible Class
00:12:05.12\00:12:08.32
in the prison,
the Chaplain told them
00:12:08.36\00:12:12.56
Okay... okay... The
Chaplain is telling them...
00:12:12.59\00:12:15.30
so, therefore, he had
invited me so, that night
00:12:15.33\00:12:18.00
the guy that asked me... I
told him what the Bible says
00:12:18.03\00:12:20.60
about speaking in tongues...
then another group asked,
00:12:20.64\00:12:23.14
"What does the Bible
say about eating pork?"
00:12:23.17\00:12:25.57
now those happened to
be some Muslim guys...
00:12:25.61\00:12:28.78
Hmmm... hmmm...
and so, after the class
00:12:28.81\00:12:31.88
they said, "We got him
now... " I said, "You got who?"
00:12:31.91\00:12:34.85
He said, "the Chaplain...
the Chaplain is Pentecostal
00:12:34.88\00:12:37.75
he eats pork and speaks
in tongues... and you said
00:12:37.79\00:12:40.62
the Bible says
that it's not right.. "
00:12:40.66\00:12:42.09
Oh my! what am I going to do?
who invited me there, Yvonne?
00:12:42.12\00:12:47.03
So, you're the guest... in the
Chaplain's 'house' so to speak,
00:12:47.03\00:12:51.83
and you're giving
ammunition to them...
00:12:51.87\00:12:54.77
to get after him...
That's right... they said,
00:12:54.80\00:12:56.64
"We got him now. "
He wasn't there though
00:12:56.67\00:12:58.47
so, I said, "What!"
they said, "We got him now. "
00:12:58.51\00:13:02.34
So, I went back home,
I said, "Oh my, what am I
00:13:02.38\00:13:06.21
going to do
Lord?" The Lord said,
00:13:06.25\00:13:07.55
"I'll tell you what to
do... call up the Chaplain
00:13:07.58\00:13:10.29
tell him... that you
only want to talk to 10 men
00:13:10.32\00:13:12.95
every other week, and
talk to the whole crowd
00:13:12.99\00:13:15.69
every week... and the reason why
00:13:15.72\00:13:17.59
you want to talk to the 10 men
tell the Chaplain that you get
00:13:17.63\00:13:20.60
a chance to help
the families out...
00:13:20.63\00:13:21.96
of those 10 men so that you
can get a chance to know them,
00:13:22.00\00:13:23.93
because if it's a huge crowd
you can't help everybody... "
00:13:23.97\00:13:26.43
So, I called the Chaplain...
he said, "That's a good idea. "
00:13:26.47\00:13:28.90
But my real
reason was this, Yvonne,
00:13:28.94\00:13:31.14
I could teach
those ten what I know
00:13:31.17\00:13:33.24
they still got 20
years in prison...
00:13:33.27\00:13:35.28
so when they kick me out...
they already know, you know,
00:13:35.31\00:13:38.65
so you're replicating...
Yeah, I'm teaching them,
00:13:38.68\00:13:41.58
so, those ten... the
next week, I start out with,
00:13:41.62\00:13:44.49
by the time my wife got in there
there are about 75 guys were
00:13:44.52\00:13:47.96
already in the room so
the officers started reading
00:13:47.99\00:13:50.06
out the names... saying,
you have to leave, leave, leave
00:13:50.09\00:13:52.53
you know, like that... so
five of the guys that were
00:13:52.56\00:13:54.13
not on the list...
were standing close by
00:13:54.20\00:13:55.76
and they said,
"Hey, can we stay?"
00:13:55.80\00:13:57.30
I said, "Okay, you can stay.
" so we started with 15 people
00:13:57.33\00:14:00.10
my wife and I and another couple
00:14:00.14\00:14:01.80
and I told them, I said,
"Look, what I'm giving you
00:14:01.84\00:14:06.74
is the Word of God..
my name is not important
00:14:06.78\00:14:09.78
I gave them Jeremiah 17:5
00:14:09.81\00:14:11.48
which says, "Cursed is the
man that trusts in man... "
00:14:11.51\00:14:13.98
I said, "I'm a man... "
00:14:14.02\00:14:15.25
I said, "If you trust me...
00:14:15.28\00:14:16.35
the Bible says that
you're going to be cursed... "
00:14:16.38\00:14:18.19
they said,
"What!" I said, "Yeah,
00:14:18.22\00:14:19.79
now Jeremiah 17:7 says,
00:14:19.82\00:14:21.79
Blessed is the man
that trusts in the Lord...
00:14:21.82\00:14:23.43
if you want to be
blessed, whom should you trust?"
00:14:23.46\00:14:25.33
they said, "The Lord... "
and I reeled it in their mind
00:14:25.36\00:14:28.53
"Don't trust any
man... trust the Lord... "
00:14:28.56\00:14:31.73
I said, now the 9th
verse tells Jeremiah 17:9 says
00:14:31.77\00:14:35.97
The heart is
deceitful above all things
00:14:36.00\00:14:37.74
and desperately
wicked, who can know it?
00:14:37.77\00:14:39.47
I said, "Have you done things
that you didn't intend to do?"
00:14:39.51\00:14:41.54
They said, "Yeah" I said,
00:14:41.58\00:14:42.78
"So, you can't
trust yourself, right?"
00:14:42.81\00:14:44.28
they said,
"That's right. " I said,
00:14:44.31\00:14:45.75
"So, don't
trust any other man. "
00:14:45.78\00:14:47.02
Now, what I really did there
was I eliminated everybody else
00:14:47.05\00:14:50.12
that don't believe the
Bible did you know that?
00:14:50.15\00:14:51.99
Everybody... anybody...
00:14:52.02\00:14:53.32
I got rid of all my
competition right there...
00:14:53.36\00:14:55.36
Wow! Because we are the only one
00:14:55.39\00:14:57.76
in the world... that
stays with the Bible...
00:14:57.79\00:15:00.33
did you know
that? we're the only one
00:15:00.36\00:15:02.66
everybody else leaves
something out of the Bible...
00:15:02.70\00:15:04.93
so, there, I eliminated
my competition right there,
00:15:04.97\00:15:07.17
so I drilled that
in their minds I said,
00:15:07.20\00:15:09.30
"Now, the 10 Commandments
God has put us here...
00:15:09.34\00:15:12.54
because... remember
this... only Church people said,
00:15:12.57\00:15:15.71
'The Law of the Lord
is done away with... '"
00:15:15.74\00:15:17.21
prisoners know
that there's a law...
00:15:17.25\00:15:18.98
you never have a
prisoner who said,
00:15:19.01\00:15:20.65
"The Law was done
away with. " Come on...
00:15:20.68\00:15:22.32
Only people who go to Church say
that the Law is done away with
00:15:22.35\00:15:24.69
did you know that? Come
on, now Brother Richard...
00:15:24.72\00:15:26.35
That's right... That's
right... because you know
00:15:26.39\00:15:28.99
prisoners know that there's
a law because they broke it...
00:15:29.02\00:15:31.13
that's why they're in
there... So, only Church people
00:15:31.16\00:15:33.60
the devil used... to say,
"The Law was done away with
00:15:33.63\00:15:35.93
remember that...
" So, I said now,
00:15:35.96\00:15:38.80
"What
commandment would you think
00:15:38.83\00:15:40.67
that every prisoner
knows that they have broken?"
00:15:40.70\00:15:43.17
and they read down...
they said, "The 8th Commandment
00:15:43.20\00:15:45.61
all of us have stolen
one time or another... "
00:15:45.64\00:15:47.34
I said, "That's right. " I
said, "Now, let me tell you
00:15:47.38\00:15:49.34
what it is... " If I
should give you a dollar
00:15:49.38\00:15:52.11
Yvonne to give
to... everybody here...
00:15:52.15\00:15:54.55
at 3abn... a
dollar... and you do not give
00:15:54.58\00:15:56.62
one of them a
dollar, what have you done?
00:15:56.65\00:15:58.65
Stolen... That's right...
00:15:58.69\00:15:59.82
I said, "So,
whatever you learn from me...
00:15:59.85\00:16:01.99
if you don't share it...
you're stealing from them...
00:16:02.02\00:16:04.33
because the Bible said,
'Go into all the world'"
00:16:04.36\00:16:06.19
and I said,
"Where is your world?"
00:16:06.23\00:16:07.46
they said,
"Wherever you are... "
00:16:07.50\00:16:08.60
I said, "So,
anybody... that you pass up
00:16:08.63\00:16:11.77
that you don't share with them
00:16:11.80\00:16:13.40
what you're
learning from God's Word
00:16:13.44\00:16:14.77
you're a thief... "
They said, "That's right"
00:16:14.80\00:16:16.64
let me tell you... from
those 15 Bible students...
00:16:16.67\00:16:21.18
in 6 months' time... we had
18,000 Bible studies going on.
00:16:21.21\00:16:25.01
18,000! 18,000!
00:16:25.05\00:16:26.95
let me tell you how...
00:16:26.98\00:16:28.32
they started
sharing with officers
00:16:28.35\00:16:30.25
they started writing home,
they started doing other people
00:16:30.29\00:16:33.19
and I'm just
saying, it's amazing
00:16:33.22\00:16:34.72
in fact, as I was
just thinking here...
00:16:34.76\00:16:36.73
then we designed Bible Classes
00:16:36.76\00:16:40.26
"What the Bible
Says" "What the Bible Says"
00:16:40.30\00:16:43.23
Now for "What the Bible
says" before they can get
00:16:43.26\00:16:45.87
their certificate... they
have to enroll 3 other people...
00:16:45.90\00:16:48.97
so, therefore, every student
has to listen to it 4 times
00:16:49.00\00:16:51.97
Oh, that's
great... They have to...
00:16:52.01\00:16:55.81
So they're studying
and they're sharing it
00:16:55.84\00:16:58.95
and they're reinforcing
the information in their heads
00:16:58.98\00:17:02.35
That's correct...
and the Holy Spirit
00:17:02.38\00:17:03.85
is quickening their
spirits... That right...
00:17:03.89\00:17:06.35
Wow! praise the Lord!
Then we showed them this...
00:17:06.39\00:17:08.82
We fill them with
little secrets that,
00:17:08.86\00:17:10.29
maybe a lot of
people don't know...
00:17:10.33\00:17:11.76
The reason why... I
understand Google says
00:17:11.79\00:17:14.96
that there are 38,800
different churches in the world
00:17:15.00\00:17:17.17
that use the Bible... 38,000...
00:17:17.20\00:17:19.70
different churches use the
Bible as their text book...
00:17:19.73\00:17:22.24
now, how many ways can you
dial my phone number wrong?
00:17:22.27\00:17:24.77
millions right? Yes...
00:17:24.81\00:17:27.71
how many ways can
you dial it right?
00:17:27.74\00:17:29.18
One... I found out something
00:17:29.21\00:17:31.55
if you do not pray
00:17:31.58\00:17:33.15
and ask for the Holy Spirit,
00:17:33.18\00:17:34.58
the devil will always
interpret the Bible to you...
00:17:34.62\00:17:36.48
Hmmm... So, many
people... all of us...
00:17:36.52\00:17:39.79
a lot of people... they
read the Bible and don't pray...
00:17:39.82\00:17:43.16
so, the Holy Spirit does
not interpret it until you ask
00:17:43.19\00:17:46.53
Hmmm... because a
thief comes in when
00:17:46.56\00:17:49.03
you don't ask... God said,
00:17:49.06\00:17:50.60
"Ask, and it shall be
given... I'm right there for you
00:17:50.63\00:17:53.27
but if you don't ask...
I'm not going to do it... "
00:17:53.30\00:17:55.90
I've tested out... I've been
meeting in about 80 countries
00:17:55.94\00:17:59.04
of the world...
when a person prays
00:17:59.07\00:18:02.11
and asks for the Holy
Spirit, they come up with the
00:18:02.14\00:18:04.18
same answer I do... " Hmmm...
00:18:04.21\00:18:06.25
because they're getting
it from the same source...
00:18:06.28\00:18:07.98
Hmmm... So, if you're don't...
00:18:08.02\00:18:09.65
so any time... remember that
00:18:09.68\00:18:11.29
that's why the
Spirit of Prophecy says,
00:18:11.32\00:18:12.99
Ellen G. White
says, "Always pray... "
00:18:13.02\00:18:14.69
it doesn't say sometime...
00:18:14.72\00:18:15.79
when you open up
God's Word, Yes...
00:18:15.82\00:18:18.46
and that's what you
do for the Program...
00:18:18.49\00:18:19.76
Because it's the Holy Spirit's
job to bring us into all truth.
00:18:19.79\00:18:23.33
Exactly... To teach
us... and to bring back
00:18:23.37\00:18:25.73
to our remembrance
that which we've studied...
00:18:25.77\00:18:28.14
Exactly right... in
fact in James 1:5 it says,
00:18:28.17\00:18:30.47
If you lack wisdom... ask God...
00:18:30.51\00:18:31.71
so, when they ask
me a question, I say,
00:18:31.74\00:18:33.58
"Ask God... don't ask me... "
00:18:33.61\00:18:35.34
Hmmm... Because God knows
00:18:35.38\00:18:37.11
where you are in
your spiritual walk...
00:18:37.15\00:18:38.65
see, I don't know where you
are, so, all I do is give them
00:18:38.68\00:18:42.45
what the Word of God
says, that's what they do...
00:18:42.48\00:18:44.32
now remember
this... we're teaching them
00:18:44.35\00:18:46.29
to teach others... now,
what do they teach others?
00:18:46.32\00:18:48.82
only what the Bible says...
not to give their opinion
00:18:48.86\00:18:51.36
see, anytime you
give your opinion...
00:18:51.39\00:18:53.36
then, you are of
the devil... Yes...
00:18:53.40\00:18:55.16
you see what I mean...
because God's Word tells us
00:18:55.20\00:18:57.70
in Proverbs the 30th
chapter and verses 5 and 6
00:18:57.73\00:19:00.27
that the Word of God is
pure, and if you add to it...
00:19:00.57\00:19:03.44
it says, "You
are a liar. " Hmmm...
00:19:03.47\00:19:05.54
How many times have
you been in Sabbath School
00:19:05.57\00:19:06.98
and you've heard
these other people lying...
00:19:07.01\00:19:08.34
because they add
to the Word of God...
00:19:08.38\00:19:09.64
Hmmm... see what I mean...
00:19:09.68\00:19:10.88
so, it's all of
that... so we taught them
00:19:10.91\00:19:13.01
we said, now let me
tell you something...
00:19:13.05\00:19:14.62
there are 66 books here...
they say, "That's right... "
00:19:14.65\00:19:16.85
I say, there's 1,189
chapters... 31,173 verses
00:19:16.89\00:19:22.16
773,692 words... I say, now...
00:19:22.19\00:19:25.59
that's what you're going
to be studying for eternity
00:19:25.63\00:19:27.93
because God's Word
will last forever...
00:19:27.96\00:19:29.40
Hmmm... So, if
you don't have enough
00:19:29.43\00:19:30.83
time... I'll talk to the judge,
he'll give you more time...
00:19:30.87\00:19:32.83
they laugh... just like you...
00:19:32.87\00:19:35.84
I said, "But the main thing
is, studying God's Word... "
00:19:35.87\00:19:38.11
because that's the only thing
that's going to last forever
00:19:38.14\00:19:40.44
isn't it... Yes...
00:19:40.48\00:19:41.84
so we know... that's
going to be for eternity...
00:19:41.88\00:19:43.51
and I tell them, and I
say, "So, when you share with
00:19:43.55\00:19:45.81
somebody... give them
what the Bible says... "
00:19:45.85\00:19:47.48
when you give them you're
opinion... then you are lying.
00:19:47.52\00:19:50.95
So, what you did was...
00:19:50.99\00:19:53.12
under the unction...
00:19:53.15\00:19:55.26
because we know...
this was the Holy Spirit
00:19:55.29\00:19:57.19
that led you
there... you went in...
00:19:57.23\00:19:59.36
taught these
inmates... and in 6 months...
00:19:59.39\00:20:03.23
you went from... what
was the original number...
00:20:03.26\00:20:06.60
15 Bible students... 15
Bible students to 18,000
00:20:06.63\00:20:09.57
Now, let me tell you
what... three weeks later
00:20:09.60\00:20:12.54
that Chaplain did
come to me, after then...
00:20:12.57\00:20:15.08
he says, "I think you don't
need to be coming here anymore"
00:20:15.11\00:20:18.11
guess what the men told him?
00:20:18.15\00:20:20.62
What?
"Chaplain, this is the only
00:20:20.65\00:20:23.79
Ministry that stays with
the Bible... and if they go...
00:20:23.82\00:20:26.72
you need to go...
because the Bible needs to go,
00:20:26.76\00:20:28.56
this is the only Ministry...
that's stays with the Bible...
00:20:28.59\00:20:31.19
And so the Chaplain
became threatened by that?
00:20:31.23\00:20:34.00
Oh, yeah... because
the guys... after all...
00:20:34.00\00:20:36.46
he's ministering to
them then this rose up...
00:20:36.50\00:20:38.83
they said, "no... no...
" and so now, we stayed...
00:20:38.87\00:20:43.20
At that point...
were you feeling that
00:20:43.24\00:20:45.67
this is what God
is leading me to do...
00:20:45.71\00:20:48.08
instead of the restaurant?
No, no, I'm still... no
00:20:48.11\00:20:50.78
now, this is where
your story picks up...
00:20:50.81\00:20:52.68
I am still
interested in my restaurant,
00:20:52.71\00:20:54.65
Okay... because I'm
there in Birmingham,
00:20:54.68\00:20:56.52
but, I'm buying the
books now these books here...
00:20:56.55\00:20:59.42
cost me money... I'm buying...
one week... I spend $5,000
00:20:59.45\00:21:03.73
next month... especially when
it's spreading $8,000... $10,000
00:21:03.76\00:21:08.46
three and a half years later,
00:21:08.50\00:21:11.20
my wife said,
00:21:11.23\00:21:13.77
"Guess what... all
we got is $3.61... "
00:21:13.80\00:21:17.34
You have
spent... All the money...
00:21:17.37\00:21:21.31
I can't go in the
restaurant business now...
00:21:21.34\00:21:23.71
The Lord said, "This
is what I want you to do"
00:21:23.75\00:21:26.31
so, I said, "Lord" now
this is what I said to him
00:21:26.35\00:21:28.85
I want you to understand me,
I said, "Lord, if you want me
00:21:28.88\00:21:31.22
to stay here, I'm not going
to ask anybody for the money
00:21:31.25\00:21:33.59
I'm available... I'm
not going to ask anybody
00:21:33.62\00:21:37.16
to work for the Ministry...
but what I'm going to do...
00:21:37.19\00:21:41.53
oh, by the way... by
that time, we had about
00:21:41.56\00:21:43.60
a hundred volunteers...
going to all the prisons
00:21:43.63\00:21:45.67
in Alabama... that I
had organized then...
00:21:45.70\00:21:47.67
but we were buying the books...
I didn't take up a donation
00:21:47.94\00:21:50.74
from anybody... but
now we're down to how much?
00:21:50.77\00:21:52.91
three dollars... And 61 cents...
00:21:52.94\00:21:54.58
now my wife would say,
less than ten dollars...
00:21:54.61\00:21:56.24
so, I'm going to give her
a credit card... and see...
00:21:56.28\00:21:58.51
but anyhow, I
remember the figures
00:21:58.55\00:22:00.12
$3.61... that night we
got on our knees and said,
00:22:00.15\00:22:06.35
"Lord, now... I
know that I'm on trial...
00:22:06.39\00:22:11.33
because you put the
devil out of heaven for being
00:22:11.36\00:22:14.36
disobedient... but
Lord, you're on trial too
00:22:14.36\00:22:17.97
because I'm going to
do everything you said...
00:22:18.00\00:22:20.97
and if you don't
take care of my needs,
00:22:21.00\00:22:22.80
I'm going to get
me another God...
00:22:22.84\00:22:25.07
I can't trust you... " Hmmm...
00:22:25.11\00:22:27.28
Not the next day... but
the following day after that
00:22:27.31\00:22:32.08
this was on a Monday
night... that Wednesday...
00:22:32.11\00:22:33.92
Brother Santini who was
out there by the Condo mailbox
00:22:33.95\00:22:38.19
brought me a number ten
envelope the large envelope
00:22:38.22\00:22:42.36
I opened it up...
there was a check in there
00:22:42.39\00:22:44.09
for $20,000... What?
00:22:44.13\00:22:46.23
Another man from
another State.. a Company...
00:22:46.26\00:22:50.47
and so, I looked at
it... I called the man...
00:22:50.50\00:22:52.73
I said, "What's this for?"
He said, "Mister, I don't know
00:22:52.77\00:22:55.47
the Lord told me
to send you this... "
00:22:55.50\00:22:57.14
Is God not amazing or what!
00:22:57.17\00:23:01.68
He was confirming...
00:23:01.71\00:23:03.58
I'm trying to tell
you... He was confirming,
00:23:03.61\00:23:06.68
that He is your
God... Oh yeah...
00:23:06.72\00:23:09.78
I said, "I don't know
what to use this for... "
00:23:09.82\00:23:12.29
He said, "I don't
know what are you doing?"
00:23:12.32\00:23:13.62
I said, "I'm in the
prison ministries... "
00:23:13.66\00:23:14.92
he said, "Well, use it for that
and what you want to use it for"
00:23:14.96\00:23:16.62
Since that time,
Yvonne, God gets the glory...
00:23:16.66\00:23:20.96
we've given away
71 million books...
00:23:21.00\00:23:23.57
free... free... free...
00:23:23.60\00:23:26.27
Praise God... 71 million
00:23:26.30\00:23:28.87
that's right...
Praise the Lord...
00:23:28.90\00:23:32.27
I'm sending it to every prison
in Russia... all over Romania,
00:23:32.31\00:23:34.41
all over the United
States, and what we send is...
00:23:34.44\00:23:37.15
you see this book right here...
00:23:37.18\00:23:38.21
when I send a
letter to a prison...
00:23:38.25\00:23:40.58
to all the prisons in
the United States once a year
00:23:40.62\00:23:42.68
I said, "Whatever you
ask for, ask me for it... "
00:23:42.72\00:23:44.75
and so, I can go on and on
and tell you the many stories
00:23:44.79\00:23:47.66
because I just had
so many at the time
00:23:47.69\00:23:49.16
but I'm just letting you
know what the Lord has done...
00:23:49.19\00:23:51.16
Yes... But, let me tell you
00:23:51.19\00:23:52.49
what He's done for
me... two things...
00:23:52.53\00:23:54.40
number one... it was a blessing
00:23:54.46\00:23:58.60
that the Lord took me down to
that $3.61... I'll tell you why
00:23:58.63\00:24:01.94
when I first got
involved with the prisoners...
00:24:01.97\00:24:05.54
they'd say, "Pr. Bland,
now, I'm a dope dealer... "
00:24:05.57\00:24:09.11
the women would
say, "I'm a prostitute...
00:24:09.14\00:24:10.58
what am I going to do
when I get out of here?
00:24:10.61\00:24:11.98
I'm a Christian now... " I
said, "The Lord will provide"
00:24:12.01\00:24:15.22
guess what though... I
still had $50,000 in the Bank,
00:24:15.25\00:24:18.42
Hmmm... hmmm...
but let me tell you
00:24:18.45\00:24:20.19
30 years ago right now...
00:24:20.22\00:24:23.36
since that time...
00:24:23.39\00:24:25.06
everything we've got,
the Lord is sending...
00:24:25.09\00:24:27.00
Amen... So, I know...
00:24:27.03\00:24:28.66
so, when I tell them now,
I'm talking from experience
00:24:28.70\00:24:31.27
before, I was talking from
the money I thought was mine
00:24:31.30\00:24:33.87
Right... You see what I mean...
00:24:33.90\00:24:35.10
And it's easier... you know...
it's eminently easier to say
00:24:35.14\00:24:39.07
"The Lord's going to
take care of you... "
00:24:39.11\00:24:41.31
and you're sitting
back, on what you've got...
00:24:41.34\00:24:43.55
That's what I'm saying...
But when you're actually
00:24:43.58\00:24:44.88
living in a state of dependence
00:24:44.91\00:24:48.38
then you can share
that... so truthfully...
00:24:48.42\00:24:51.79
The Lord gave me
the experience, Yes...
00:24:51.82\00:24:53.89
And since that time... I
had to use that experience...
00:24:53.92\00:24:56.02
many, many, many times, you see,
00:24:56.06\00:24:58.46
now to think about...
how's the Lord's Prayer...
00:24:58.49\00:25:00.96
"Our Father"... what
"which are in heaven"
00:25:00.96\00:25:02.96
"Hallowed be thy...
" what? "thy name... "
00:25:03.00\00:25:04.63
"thy" what? "kingdom come"
00:25:04.67\00:25:05.97
"thy will be done on
earth... as it is in heaven... "
00:25:06.00\00:25:08.77
what's the next part?
"give us this day... "give who?
00:25:08.80\00:25:10.24
"us" so, now, that's the key...
00:25:10.67\00:25:13.48
when I get something,
I'm supposed to share it...
00:25:13.51\00:25:15.61
see, when I ask for stuff, God
is giving it to us, not to me...
00:25:15.64\00:25:19.85
and so, that's what we found
out so, before we buy the books
00:25:19.88\00:25:24.05
we buy, maybe, a box at a
time, now we're buying them at
00:25:24.09\00:25:27.82
half a million at a time...
that's the only way we can do
00:25:27.86\00:25:30.73
to keep the prices down...
because the Lord has done this.
00:25:30.76\00:25:33.63
And so, what's the plan...
00:25:33.66\00:25:34.73
are you getting it
into all the prisons
00:25:34.76\00:25:37.07
Every prison in the
United States... we serve them
00:25:37.10\00:25:38.97
we just send out an
open letter to them...
00:25:39.00\00:25:40.67
if they write me that they
want 20,000 of "Desire of Ages"
00:25:40.70\00:25:44.01
I just give it to them... just
like Jim was saying yesterday,
00:25:44.04\00:25:47.34
Jim Gilley... when he was in
New York, during the 911 thing
00:25:47.38\00:25:50.61
he called me up... we
sent them 20,000 Bibles
00:25:50.65\00:25:52.78
to give away in New York...
and then we sent to them,
00:25:52.81\00:25:55.02
you know, just give them away...
00:25:55.05\00:25:56.15
because he was in charge
of that Program at the time...
00:25:56.18\00:25:59.72
so, what I'm saying to
you, the Lord has done this...
00:25:59.75\00:26:02.12
Yes... He gets the credit
00:26:02.16\00:26:03.39
for everything... Oh yes...
00:26:03.43\00:26:04.56
so, what I'm saying to
you... everything since then...
00:26:04.59\00:26:06.59
I can go on...
but let me tell you
00:26:06.63\00:26:08.03
how it has
helped me spiritually...
00:26:08.06\00:26:09.43
I'm in the prison one
night, a tornado came up
00:26:09.46\00:26:15.17
just about the
time we got started...
00:26:15.20\00:26:18.44
I'm standing there...
and all the lights went out
00:26:18.47\00:26:20.74
in the prison... boom...
a prisoner to my left named
00:26:20.78\00:26:25.71
Tommy Weyser...
I'll never forget it...
00:26:25.75\00:26:27.18
got up and hit
the Podium and said,
00:26:27.22\00:26:28.58
"In the name of Jesus,
turn these lights back on... "
00:26:28.62\00:26:31.19
they came on... in that room
only for the next 2 hours...
00:26:31.22\00:26:33.76
the whole prison was
dark... why didn't I do it?
00:26:33.79\00:26:36.12
because I told
him... that God can do...
00:26:36.16\00:26:38.56
what? everything... I
didn't believe it myself...
00:26:38.59\00:26:40.76
Hmmm... Prisoners have taught me
00:26:40.80\00:26:42.96
to trust God...
they have taught me...
00:26:43.00\00:26:45.37
Yes... You hear me?
00:26:45.40\00:26:46.80
Yes... I can go on...
00:26:46.84\00:26:48.17
One night... So, you've got
00:26:48.20\00:26:49.44
you've benefitted so much...
Oh, what are you talking about?
00:26:49.47\00:26:51.57
That's why I say...
"work our your own salvation"
00:26:51.61\00:26:54.28
Yes... See, I was
telling that stuff
00:26:54.31\00:26:55.88
but I didn't believe it myself
until, one guy, one night named
00:26:55.91\00:27:00.48
John Sam... we'd
break up in small classes...
00:27:00.52\00:27:04.35
I said, "Can you read... "
he says, "No" then he says "Yes"
00:27:04.39\00:27:07.99
"Can you read?" "Yeah... "
00:27:08.02\00:27:09.09
"Can you read... " he
said, "No, but I'll try... "
00:27:09.12\00:27:11.33
37-year-old guy...
and I get to him...
00:27:11.36\00:27:14.03
and by-the-way... we
don't talk to anybody
00:27:14.10\00:27:15.46
unless they have a
Bible in the Class...
00:27:15.50\00:27:16.87
if they refuse the
Bible we ask them to leave...
00:27:16.90\00:27:18.53
Really... Oh yeah...
00:27:18.57\00:27:20.17
Yeah because... how can
you teach... without the Word?
00:27:20.20\00:27:22.37
We're down to like 40
seconds... What do you...
00:27:22.40\00:27:25.94
40 seconds
before the Program ends?
00:27:25.97\00:27:27.61
Yes... I can't believe
it... I can't either...
00:27:27.64\00:27:29.88
I want more...
tell us what you need...
00:27:29.91\00:27:32.38
Well, I need to tell the story
so other people can get involved
00:27:32.41\00:27:36.79
we found out a book
that's a winner right here...
00:27:36.82\00:27:39.52
this book right here...
"Bible Questions Answered"
00:27:39.55\00:27:42.19
Okay... has never
been turned down...
00:27:42.22\00:27:43.43
we got now a million of them,
it's designed for people to
00:27:43.46\00:27:46.66
win this for us... we
make it available to you now
00:27:46.70\00:27:48.76
because it has 14
Bible Studies in it...
00:27:48.80\00:27:51.30
Oh... we'll put up your website
00:27:51.33\00:27:54.27
so that people
00:27:54.30\00:27:55.34
they need to get
this book here...
00:27:55.37\00:27:56.50
we'll put up your website
so that people can order it...
00:27:56.54\00:27:59.07
Order this book...
Yes, thank you so much
00:27:59.11\00:28:01.08
for being with us...
You said I had 40 seconds...
00:28:01.11\00:28:03.18
it's over now... and
thank you joining in...
00:28:03.21\00:28:05.25
Tune in next time... It
just wouldn't be the same
00:28:05.28\00:28:07.15
without you...
00:28:07.18\00:28:08.38