Do you want to know
Jesus' method for evangelism
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well, stay tuned to
meet a couple that follows
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His blueprint and is
being blessed for doing so...
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My name is Yvonne Lewis and
you're watching Urban Report
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Hello and
welcome to Urban Report
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my guests today are
Narlin and Samantha Edwards
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co-founders of Tree
of Life Ministries...
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Welcome Narlin and
Samantha... Thank you...
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I'm so glad that
you guys are here...
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Glad to be here...
We're happy to be here.
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I have to tell you, I
tasted some of your food
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yesterday and even though
I'm allergic to coconut...
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it had a little coconut
in it, and praise the Lord...
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I didn't react,
wow, that was so good...
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Was it a tofu
cheesecake... what was it?
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it was actually a raw
pineapple cheesecake...
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it didn't have any
soy in it or tofu...
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yes, it was based
with cashews and coconut...
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wow... it was based... and
I didn't have a reaction...
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praise the
Lord... that was great...
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Well, tell us
about your ministry...
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What is Tree of Life
Ministries? What's it all about?
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Well, when the Lord
impressed us to start a ministry
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a few years back... we
were searching for a name
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and searching for the
characteristics of a ministry
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so as we were searching
we said, "Well, let's try to
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find the best person that
has done evangelism and that's
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none other than Christ... Yes...
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so, we figured that the best way
to, you know, get involved in
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ministry is to follow
the method Christ used...
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when you read Matthew
Chapter 4 and verse 18...
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Christ says, "Follow me, and
I shall make you fishers of men"
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Yes... now,
when you drop down to
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verse 23... most people
don't make the connection
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that Jesus then began
his ministry and showed them
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the things that they should
do and they followed Him...
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and in verse 23 it
says... He was teaching,
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He was preaching
and He was healing...
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and again that same exact thing
is repeated in Matthew Chapter 9
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and verse 35 it
says, He was teaching...
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He was healing... and
then... He was also... preaching
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so, that's Christ's
method of evangelism...
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now there's one more... Okay...
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...it was publishing...
Now publishing... now...
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where were the
printing presses back there?
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How was He publishing?
Very good question...
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they published
with their mouth, Ah...
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when you read verse
24 Matthew Chapter 4
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it says... His fame
went all throughout Syria...
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Ah... ... so how did everyone
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get to know about Christ?
Where was the influx and the
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multitudes coming from?
Did Jesus go to every single
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person and tell them
that He was here? Oh, no...
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there were other people around
that received the blessings
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and they went and
published it via mouth...
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Okay... But we
are in a day and age
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where we can hand
leaflets, we can have internet
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and different ways of publishing
so... a part of the ministries
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also is publishing the glad
tidings of Jesus' near coming.
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Oh, that's excellent...
so... we can go to the Word
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for the blueprint to
find out just how to reach
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souls for
Christ. That is right...
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That's tremendous...
so, when did you decide
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that this was something
that you guys wanted to do...
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Well, the Lord
actually decided for us...
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Yes, actually we
were both working
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in a Corporate setting and
the Lord really... placed upon
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our hearts individually
that He wanted us to do
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a different type of
work... to work... really...
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full time for Him...
and so, we were, again,
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working at the time, and
we didn't know how that was
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going to happen, or
how we were going to make
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that transition, we had our
home our mortgage, our bills and
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everything else
that life has to offer...
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and really the Lord...
put it in such a way that...
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He removed the
jobs from us, and He...
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What happened? Well, with me...
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I actually
ended up losing my job
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in fact, they laid off
the the entire department
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this was around the
time of the financial crisis
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that was coming
in... about 2008... 2009...
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and so, I ended up losing my job
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but you know, it
was just a blessing
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because I wasn't
even worried about,
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"Oh, how are we
going to pay our bills
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and how are we going to
do this and do that... "
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the Lord really
put a peace over us...
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Yes... ... and
then, my husband was
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still working and I'll
have him explain his story...
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I think you left out a
key... Oh, yes, yes... I did...
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well, I was on a
business trip at that time...
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I was in Seattle and I
ended up missing my flight...
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and my Manager
was there as well...
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and we ended up going
to dinner that evening...
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and she was based
out in another city
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and I was based out of Atlanta,
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and we were talking
about various things...
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as related to work and
just life in general...
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and we ended up talking
about spiritual things...
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and it was such a
blessing, here it is...
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it's a woman...
she's not a Christian...
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she doesn't read the
Bible, she has no foundation
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in spiritual
things... You never talked about
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spiritual things?
No, we never talked about
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spiritual things but the Lord
really guided the conversation
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Yeah... yes... ... and
she saw that there was a
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passion and when I
was explaining to her
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the things from the Bible
and from Jesus and so on...
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she said, "You know Samantha,
why are you working here...
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why aren't you
doing this full time?"
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and literally...
the very next day...
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we all received a
call in my department
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that they were
closing the department down
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due to down-sizing...
and I just blessed the Lord
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because... here it was...
it was confirmation through
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this woman... who had nothing...
she didn't know anything about
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Christianity... but the
Lord was really speaking
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through her to me...
to get my attention...
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Yes... as He will
often do, right...
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He'll speak to us
through the Word...
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He will speak to us
through other people,
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through circumstances...
praise the Lord...
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Yes, praise God... What
about you Brother Narlon?
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Well, mine goes a
little bit further back...
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even as we're here
on Dare to Dream...
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the Bible says...
"Without any vision... or dreams
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people perish... "
Yes... that's right...
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so it is very good to
have a dream and a focus
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and sometimes we tend to
get sidetracked from that dream
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sometimes we get sidetracked
from that vision.. that focus...
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but if we had that dream...
God can send remembrances,
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send different events and
circumstances in our lives
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to bring that dream back,
when I came into the Church
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early in
1996... I had envisioned
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and had made a promise to God
that I would go into ministry...
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and certain circumstances
happened in my life
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and I allowed the devil to
snatch that dream away from me
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and we ended up leaving
the Church for some time...
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and then... when we came
back now the Lord laid the dream
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upon my heart
again... and that vision...
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He reminded me of that vision...
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and there's a particular
event, there are many...
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but I remember I was
going to work one day...
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this was around the same time
my wife had her vision as well
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and spoke to her
boss and the circumstances
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that happened in her
life... I was going to lunch...
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with a co-worker... and
in the process of driving
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she lost control on one of
the a major highways in Atlanta,
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lost total control of the
car... the car began to spin
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and circle across the highway...
and on one side... it stopped
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at one point... it stopped...
we were facing oncoming traffic
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so imagine... you stop...
and you just see all these cars
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coming at you...
and that was a miracle
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that God worked to
preserve my life...
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Yes... ... and I remember...
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when she finally got
control of the car again...
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she finally turned around
and somebody... made it a way...
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basically... he
dipped through traffic
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and he got right beside
us and when he got beside us,
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he clasped his
hands... just like this...
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and then he
looked me in the face...
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he didn't even say a word,
he just had his hands clasped
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like this... like saying,
"It is only God that could
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have preserved
your life. " Yes...
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that was my Red Sea
Experience, I literally saw...
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God part the Red Sea and
open up... all those cars
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that were sailing at
70 to 80 miles an hour...
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and find a way for me to
go all the way on one side
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of the highway...
all the way back...
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and we were still
able to come out safely...
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so, when that man...
I'd like to meet him one day
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I pray that he
makes it to heaven...
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he doesn't understand the
impact that he had on my life...
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if it's not an angel...
it might have been an angel,
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That's right... ...
but he got over to me
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and clasped his
hand... and God spoke to me
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at that moment and said,
"I have a special calling
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for you... and I want
you to work full time for me
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in ministry" so,
praise God for that...
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At the scene of the accident?
At the scene of the accident...
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Well... the situation...
because there never was an
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accident right... because
no one hit you or anything...
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but at that scene...
that's where God revealed
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that He was drawing you
into full-time ministry...
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Exactly... Wow...
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To carry out the original
dream and the original vision
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that I had... so,
that's why it says,
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it's good to have a
vision... sometimes we might get
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sidetracked... Joseph a vision,
and his life went in a lot of
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directions that
he didn't envision...
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but he still had that
vision and God was still able
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to fulfill that vision...
so, that's why it's important
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to have a dream and a vision
and then God can, sometimes,
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remind you that, "You
might have been off-track
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but I can still get you to
the vision that I had for you...
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Yes... you know...
on Dare to Dream...
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on Urban Report...
specifically... I talk a lot
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about God's divine plan
for us, and so many times...
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we do other things that,
you know, that kind of take us
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off the path... of the
plan... but God still uses
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those things... He
implants something in us
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and then brings
us back to the path
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and then... you
know... and then you're walking
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in your divine destiny...
and to me... there's nothing
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greater than that...
there's no greater privilege
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than working for God
and, you know, and doing what
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you know you were
put on the planet to do
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Yes... that's the key...
You're speaking our language...
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Come on now... I feel
a sermon coming already,
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yeah.. you know... and
so when you're doing that
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and when you're walking
in that plan you just feel...
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it's like... it's
almost as though you can exhale
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because you feel like
this is what I'm here for
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That's right... that's right...
... and you and I were talking
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yesterday about
purpose... That's right...
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...and how so many
of our young people
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don't have a sense of purpose,
and without that purpose
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you don't know
where you're going
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because you don't
have a direction...
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That's right... Let's
talk a bit about purpose
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and the importance of
purpose in our young people
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and what that's about...
Yes, one of the main things
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you know, success in any
line demands a definite aim
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you must have a goal,
you must have a "set purpose"
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in life... and then all the
decisions that you make in life
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is based on that purpose...
and I think, through ignorance,
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many parents and
guardians they kind of instill
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the wrong information in
children in their childhood
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How so?... We tend
to ask the question,
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"What do you want to
be when you grow up?"
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Hmmmm... It sounds good...
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most of the time...
it's in ignorance...
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but the real question...
... Good intention yes...
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but the real question
is... "What is the purpose
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that God had for your life...
" everyone was brought here
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for a specific
purpose... God saw ahead of time
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that there's something in this
world that Yvonne, Samantha,
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and Narlin need to fulfill,
and unless we find that purpose
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if we find... unless we
find our place on that puzzle
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then the work... is
very difficult to accomplish
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because God had a
specific intention for you
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I give the comparison...
kind of like a jigsaw puzzle
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every single piece
of that puzzle is needed
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for the puzzle to be completed,
there might be some that might
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be in the center
that's more noticeable
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when it's missing...
but even if the one in the
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top right corner
is not noticeable...
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that piece is still needed for
that puzzle to be completed...
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so, in every aspect of
life... God had a specific place
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for each one of us... and
unless we find that place...
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and are doing the thing
that God God had intended for us
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originally... it's very
difficult to find true joy...
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That is so
true... that is so true,
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and we see it... all the time...
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in our young people
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we see it in our young
people that are in gangs...
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that are incarcerated, you
know because they don't know
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that there is a purpose for them
I was talking to a young man
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who is 17-years-old and he said,
he didn't care if he died...
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you know... like this is...
all there was... for him...
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and that's why... we
are here... to let them know
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that there is a purpose... that
they do have a divine destiny
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and you all are doing
that in your ministry, correct?
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Yes... That's tremendous...
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what else do you do
with Tree of Life Ministries?
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Well, another thing
that we do in following out
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the four-plan step of evangelism
four-fold phase of evangelism
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which is teaching, preaching,
healing and publishing...
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I actually fulfill the duties
of doing the Nutritional Classes
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the Cooking
Classes, Health Lectures,
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Consultations and so on...
and my husband does more the
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Evangelism side of it...
and the speaking engagements
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and so on... so I
just kind of follow up
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behind him... Oh,
that's sweet... so
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so... how does it work...
so, a Church invites you to come
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What happens?
What do you guys do?
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It depends on the
exact needs of the Church...
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we've done Evangelistic Meetings
we have done... Week of Prayers
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we've done Health Seminars...
we've done Revivals...
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we've done Health
Expos, Cooking Classes...
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so, it all depends on
the needs of the Church...
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so, they
basically call us and say,
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"We have this particular
need" and then... as we pray...
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the Lord gives us
exactly what that Church needs
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and God always blesses...
and the beauty too is...
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that even though we may
be called in for something
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in particular... we
always like to bring the
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focus back on the reason
why we're doing everything
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that we're doing...
we really want to ensure
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that we're glorifying
God in all that we do...
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so, we get called in for a
Health Week or for a Revival...
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or for Evangelism...
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the center is really on Christ
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and the work that needs
to be done... these days...
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and how He wants to
use the common person
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to do a wonderful work for
Him. Ah... so you're not only
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teaching and preaching...
but you're also helping people
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to understand that
they have a work as well,
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you're not just
coming in for a week...
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or weekend
saying... "Okay, we're here,
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now we're leaving... no...
you leave them with something
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Yeah... and believe it
or not the more success
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that we have found,
is bringing young people
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into our homes...
so, in other words...
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there have
been... troubled youth...
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and youth that didn't
have a sense of direction...
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and while there's
wonderful things that happen
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through Evangelistic
Meeting and so on...
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but when you can
take them home with you...
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nurture them... have
them... in a set schedule
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have them on a set meal plan...
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and have them on a
set time for prayer
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time for
worship, time for eating,
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they develop a sense
of system and organization
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you're able to study with them,
share the principles of God
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with them...
nurture them and so on
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and so forth...
then we find that
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that has borne the greatest
harvest more than anything else.
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Give us a
sample... an example of...
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without naming names necessarily
but just some of the young
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people that you've worked with,
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where were they
when they came to you...
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and how did they leave?
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Now, there was...
you want me to go or you?
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You can start... Well,
there was one particular
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young man... and he's actually
full-time in ministry right now,
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Praise God...
... when we met him,
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he was still in
Church, but he was basically
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one foot in and one
foot out, More out than in...
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...and, you know, he
was smoking marijuana
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hanging out with the wrong group
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didn't have a sense of
direction for his life...
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didn't know his purpose in life,
and we took him into our home,
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we spent time with
him, we counseled with him,
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we even had recreational
time, we planned... you know...
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walks and talks
together, and he basically lived
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off and on with us
for quite some time...
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and we were able to nurture him,
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and he found
his sense of purpose
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and he ended up going
away to one of our Schools and
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learned so much about God
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and developed a
system in his life...
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he developed a sense of focus
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and we still work
with him now, and actually
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he's an instrumental
part of the bigger ministry
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that we're looking to... to
get going in these last days
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as well... Praise the Lord...
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We have another story
with another young lady,
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same thing... she was just
coming from a worldly background
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and the Lord really used us
instrumentally to bring her into
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the truth... and, you
know, she was confused as to
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what constituted
the truth, you know,
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she was hearing
different things and,
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you know, different
books and just spiritual...
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just all kinds of things...
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that were coming her way,
and she didn't really know
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how to make of
what she needed to do...
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and so, the Lord had her
bring her into our home...
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bring her into our home..
that's.. bring her into our home
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yes... that's it...
and we saw the change...
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we saw that the Lord was
really working on her heart...
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and we didn't do anything
special... I mean, we just
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lived how we normally
lived... That's right...
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...we live out in the
country... and, you know,
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we have a little garden...
and we just had her come
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and just live our
program which was...
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we wake up at a certain time,
we have a certain type of diet
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we have a certain schedule
for worship and prayer and so on
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just simple
things... nothing miraculous
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that anyone can't
do... but just, you know,
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for her to see that Christianity
practical Christianity lived out
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I think that was really what
made a difference in her life
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and she too is full
time in ministry as well.
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Praise God... what a great
point practical Christianity...
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you know, just letting
people see God in you...
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...yes... that's it...
that's really the bottom line
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isn't it? It is
the greatest sermon.
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It is the greatest
sermon, for sure... for sure...
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So, how is it that... a
person comes to stay with you?
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you guys don't
have... a situation where...
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young people just come
and live with you, correct?
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I mean, this was just...
these two were just incidents...
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these were not...
these were kind of isolated
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incidents... these
were not the norm for you,
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you don't just take in...
young people correct, or do you?
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Well, I wouldn't put an
advertisement on the internet
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and say... "come in... "
because we're on television now
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and I'm
thinking... you know what...
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some people might say,
"Oh, could you take my son,
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can you help him out?" so I
just wanted to make it clear
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That actually segues into
the larger ministry of what we
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what we're partly in the
process of putting together...
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and it would actually
help those who are troubled
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and are trying to seek direction
and purpose and so on...
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Well, tell us about that...
what are you trying to do?
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Well, we're going to use
the word called "Outpost"
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and an Outpost is a
location outside of the city
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where people can
come and learn about God
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it's a full program...
there... we carry out the four
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ministries that we talked
about, there's teaching...
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there's
preaching, there's healing,
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and then,
there's also publishing,
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so with that... you
basically take people there
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you train them, you nurture
them and an Outpost is basically
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a larger scale of carrying
out the plans and the things
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that you're doing in your
home, so, the same way you have
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a system of worship,
a system of training,
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a system of eating,
a system of teaching,
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a system of healing,
a system of preaching,
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it's just a bunch of families
now... with that same mindset
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that has learned
that system in their homes
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and they bring it to a larger
scale where they come together
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in a large area,
in a large rural area
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and they simply
carry that same plan out...
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now, the purpose of that is
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once those people are trained
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then they go into the cities...
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and they carry that work of
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teaching, preaching and healing,
into the cities as well.
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Hmmm... So, it's sort of like a
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reciprocal relationship...
you have the Outpost Center
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which is in a rural location,
and you have a City Mission Work
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that is done... so,
once the individual is
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calmed... they have been trained
they have been changed...
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through the Holy
Spirit, they are now equipped
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to go out into the
field and work for souls
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and bring them
back into the Outpost
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and then the cycle just
continues over and over again.
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Ah... It's a beautiful cycle
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that God has given us.
Amen... and for how long
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has this vision been in your
hearts, this "Outpost Vision"
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At least two years... Yes...
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...and that vision is...
again... is becoming a reality.
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Yes... What do you need?
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What are your
needs for this Outpost?
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Well, we actually...
we're told that we should dwell
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in the rural sections
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rural sections of the country...
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but that we
should work the cities...
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and so, if we want to
do effective evangelism...
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to reach those in the
inner cities and so on,
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we need to show people
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a different way of
life... if you're in your
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current environment...
you're not finding success...
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you know, you have a lot
of distractions around you...
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you know...
there's a lot of things
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that you are bombarded with,
information, with sceneries...
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all kinds of things...
and it's hard to really keep
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focus on what you're
supposed to be doing...
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for God or for
anything for that matter,
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and you find that once someone
is removed from that location
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they go to a more peaceful
area where they can really hear
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from the voice of
God... you will find that their
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mindset starts to change...
and their outlook on life
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begins to change...
everything about them
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begins to change...
and then... they can bring
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the program back to
where they came from.
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Just to add... some of
the things that are needed
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like structure-wise... of
course we need the land...
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you need the housing... you
need the kitchen, of course,
00:21:03.59\00:21:07.36
because you're cooking
for a large sum of people...
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you need a sanitarium
which is somewhat like a
00:21:09.66\00:21:12.37
Lifestyle Center...
where you're educating people
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you're taking those that
have lifestyle diseases...
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heart disease or
diabetes, cancer, overweight,
00:21:17.94\00:21:22.04
and it could be
any number of things...
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drug addition... and
all sorts of issues...
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and then we put them on a plan,
a program... and by God's grace
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we have seen
high blood pressure,
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we have seen... diabetes...
we have seen cancer patients
00:21:32.69\00:21:35.69
full-blown AIDS patients
coming to our sanitariums
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and people leave there
without AIDS, without cancer,
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without diabetes,
without high blood pressure
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and then they can go back
and testify to their families
00:21:45.00\00:21:47.44
they're more interested
in God that healed them
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they're more... because
we tell them clearly that
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irrespective of all the natural
remedies and the programs
00:21:51.87\00:21:54.68
that we put you
on... at the end of the day
00:21:54.71\00:21:56.58
it's only God
that heals... Right...
00:21:56.61\00:21:58.08
so, once that healing
comes... they know that
00:21:58.11\00:22:00.15
it is only a miracle
that God has healed them
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so they go... and
they go back and publish...
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Yeah... yes... ...
and then they bring other
00:22:03.95\00:22:05.75
people into the
Outpost as well...
00:22:05.79\00:22:07.19
so, just the
experience of those that come
00:22:07.22\00:22:09.86
and they get the
healing that God gives them...
00:22:09.89\00:22:13.60
both physically and spiritually,
00:22:13.63\00:22:15.16
then they naturally go back
00:22:15.20\00:22:16.73
and share... and
then it's a constant cycle
00:22:16.77\00:22:18.80
just like... the two
demoniacs when Christ came
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and He healed
them of their issues...
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they went back and
published the glad tidings...
00:22:24.81\00:22:28.04
and so that's what
God expects from us...
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once He does something
miraculous in our lives,
00:22:29.54\00:22:31.71
He expects us to
share it with others...
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Absolutely... ... and
that's really the whole
00:22:34.12\00:22:35.68
idea of the program...
... absolutely, and one of the
00:22:35.72\00:22:38.35
great things is getting people
away from all the distractions..
00:22:38.39\00:22:42.19
in the cities...
because there's so much conflict
00:22:42.22\00:22:46.19
and there's
poverty and crime and
00:22:46.23\00:22:48.33
all kinds of things...
if you can remove people
00:22:48.36\00:22:50.83
from that environment,
and put them in an environment
00:22:50.87\00:22:54.57
where they can observe, you know
the marvels of the firmament...
00:22:54.60\00:22:59.54
and the stars at night...
00:22:59.57\00:23:02.34
and smell fresh air...
00:23:02.38\00:23:05.08
and get the oxygen from
the trees and... I mean...
00:23:05.11\00:23:08.02
it just creates a
different mindset...
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Oh, absolutely... And so
I think that's tremendous
00:23:11.39\00:23:14.09
and... then they
go back... Yes...
00:23:14.12\00:23:17.19
and they say, "Okay, this
is some place you need to go...
00:23:17.23\00:23:20.00
I went there... " and
then their friends will say,
00:23:20.03\00:23:22.36
"What's up with you...
because you're really totally
00:23:22.40\00:23:24.03
different... "
That's exactly right...
00:23:24.07\00:23:26.37
and they send
someone else back there...
00:23:26.40\00:23:29.77
and it just
becomes... that cycle...
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It's a beautiful
plan... and we see that
00:23:32.21\00:23:34.54
that's really the
plan that God has for us...
00:23:34.58\00:23:36.85
because... if we're
ever going to be changed...
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we really need to allow
God to really work within us...
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and we see that the
Outpost plan... God's plan
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that He originally
instituted, even back in Eden...
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we see that God created the
ideal environment... for us...
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and so we're really not
made to endure all of the issues
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that happen in
the city all the...
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you know, God has
a plan for all of us
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and He wants us to be
able to fulfill that plan...
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and one of the
ways which we see that
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is through the Outpost. Yes...
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Praise the Lord...
so, where are you now
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in terms of your planning
and how far are you away from
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actually... having
the Outpost, do you know?
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Yes... very good question...
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originally my wife and I
were going to get one developed
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in the Atlanta
area... and we were trained by
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Dr. Thomas Jackson... Yes...
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Dr. Thomas
Jackson... is located in
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Huntington, Tennessee...
he already had the structures,
00:24:32.07\00:24:34.97
he already had the land...
he just needed the extra help
00:24:35.00\00:24:37.97
so, we figured...
rather than trying to build
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something from the ground up,
why not help him get one going
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and then... that
one will be a model...
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and then... once
that one is up and running
00:24:44.78\00:24:46.78
and it has found
success, then it's much easier
00:24:46.82\00:24:48.75
to go to different
places and duplicate it...
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so the ultimate
objective is to work with...
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"Meet Ministry Missionary
and Education and Evangelistic
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Training"... work with them,
and get that ideal blueprint
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of what an Outpost looks like,
00:24:59.06\00:25:00.53
get one fully operational,
let people see the success of it
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and then, naturally it
can spread to different areas
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all throughout the
U.S. and then, eventually,
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all throughout the
world, that's the objective...
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So, when are you
guys moving there?
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That has been the big question.
Only the Lord knows that
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but we're getting
actually to that point...
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but really, we want to
see it get up and running...
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and we're working very
closely with them in order to
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make that a reality... and
so... we're almost there...
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there are some few key elements
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that need to be put in place,
00:25:35.13\00:25:36.80
before that
transition takes place...
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Yes, we were planning on
trying to move there this fall
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but, you know, we
need more housing...
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there are a few more things
that need to be done there
00:25:44.64\00:25:48.74
so, that's some of
the things we are trying
00:25:48.78\00:25:50.91
to work on to get done there
00:25:50.95\00:25:52.48
so that it will make it much
easier for us and more people
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to come in and carry
out the plan as well.
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You need some funds
to help you to actually
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implement this
plan... and you know that
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this is God's plan and so
you know that God is going to
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work through people and
send you what you need...
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That's right... And
by the grace of God,
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our wonderful
viewers, on Urban Report
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will see your website...
we have your website address
00:26:16.91\00:26:20.68
and they can send...
you know, contact you
00:26:20.71\00:26:23.41
and hopefully they can
help with this vision...
00:26:23.45\00:26:27.75
with this plan... God's plan...
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In the last minute that we have,
what would you like our viewers
00:26:29.72\00:26:33.49
to know about what you're doing,
is there anything else that you
00:26:33.52\00:26:37.26
want to share with the
viewers about what you're doing?
00:26:37.29\00:26:39.79
You want to begin
and I'll finish...
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Okay, you know, the key
thing that we want to take away
00:26:42.10\00:26:46.17
from all of this... is that...
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God has a set plan for
all of us and He has a set way
00:26:47.34\00:26:52.84
for us to reach
those in the cities...
00:26:52.87\00:26:55.78
you may have family
members, or you, yourself,
00:26:55.81\00:26:58.11
might be
hurting... you might not know
00:26:58.15\00:27:00.65
what God has for
you, but just know that
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God has not
forgotten us, He has a plan...
00:27:03.59\00:27:06.35
if we follow the blueprint...
later on in the Bible...
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He will show us
exactly what He would have
00:27:09.02\00:27:11.49
for each of us to do... and he
wants to use the common people
00:27:11.53\00:27:15.46
he wants to use just
the average person to work.
00:27:15.50\00:27:17.73
Yes... yes... Find
that vision, that aim,
00:27:17.77\00:27:20.80
that purpose that God
had intended for you...
00:27:20.84\00:27:23.87
and carry out that
plan, that's the greatest joy,
00:27:23.91\00:27:26.78
the most success that
you will find in this life...
00:27:26.81\00:27:28.91
is carrying out the
plan that God has for you...
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Amen... you know...
Jeremiah 29:11 says,
00:27:31.01\00:27:34.28
"For I know the thoughts
that I think toward you...
00:27:34.32\00:27:36.35
saith the Lord...
thoughts of peace...
00:27:36.38\00:27:38.25
and not of evil... to
give you an expected end... "
00:27:38.29\00:27:40.89
and in the NIV... it
says, "to give you a future
00:27:40.92\00:27:43.49
and a hope" and
that's what's missing
00:27:43.53\00:27:45.53
with so many
people... they don't have that
00:27:45.56\00:27:47.56
sense of future...
they don't have that sense
00:27:47.60\00:27:49.50
of destiny... of a
plan... but God has that plan...
00:27:49.53\00:27:53.97
and if we seek Him,
He'll just rain down
00:27:54.00\00:27:57.21
blessings on us... Amen...
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So, thank you so
much for being with us...
00:27:59.31\00:28:00.98
and thank you for
tuning in. Tune in next time...
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It just wouldn't be
the same... without you.
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