Our world is in
trouble and in the Word of God
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we've been told to
cry aloud and spare not...
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Stay tuned to meet a man who
takes that admonition seriously.
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My name if Yvonne Lewis and
you're watching Urban Report
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Hello and
welcome to Urban Report
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Last year I interviewed
Ruben Carr a formerly homeless
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man whose life God
remarkably transformed...
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Today, he's going to
share with us the ministry
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that God gave him and how it's
changing the lives of others
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Welcome back to
Urban Report Ruben...
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Yvonne, how're you doing?
I'm doing great, praise the Lord
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And how are you?
If I was any better
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I'll be on the
moon... Praise the Lord
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God is so good isn't
he? He is... all the time...
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All the time...
So, okay, so Ruben
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when you were here before
we talked about your testimony
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and how God has just brought you
from homelessness to ministry
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and to serving Him
walking in the divine purpose
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that He has for you...
but today, we're going to look
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at the ministry
that God has given you
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tell us about your ministry...
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What are you doing? I
put a lot of priorities in
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ministry that God has given
me, to tell the world about
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what we truly believe...
but I think that it's high time
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that we wake up out of
our sleep and to return back
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to those things...
once we were before
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And so, when we talk
about the pillars of our faith
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the foundation of our faith
what are some of those pillars
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that you talk about?
Well, righteousness by faith
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victory over sin is one
of the two most important
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ones that I believe that
we need to get back to...
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Okay... explain...
remember some of the people
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that are watching don't
even know what righteousness is
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so when you talk
about righteousness by faith
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you know... like...
what is that about...
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for the lay person for
the person that has no idea
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about these
concepts... what actually is
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"Righteousness by faith"
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Well, righteousness
by faith is what we teach
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and what is righteousness by
faith.. it clearly tells us that
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we have to take off
our self-righteousness
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and put on
Christ's righteousness
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His character... Our
character has to be changed
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our character is
built upon what we believe
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and what we feel in
our minds and in our hearts
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and that
character has to be changed
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to the character of
Christ... Hmmmm... so on our own
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we base a lot of what
we do, and what we think
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on our own standards
versus what the Word of God says
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Exactly... And so
the righteousness of
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Christ... we need
that righteousness
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because we don't have our own,
that's what you're saying right?
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Exactly, because
what we're taught is...
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is that we have sanctification
and justification...
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justification comes first
but santification... we teach
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is a lifetime but what
we don't understand is that
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we can only live
one day at a time...
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so we have to live
for today overcoming sin
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through Christ's righteousness.
And you know, that's a really
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good point... Rube
because a lot of people
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think that well, you
know, I'm just a sinner
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I'm just a sinner and
I'm stuck in this thing
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but God offers us
victory otherwise, it's like...
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if there were hospitals where...
the patients never get well
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what is that?
So, the whole idea is
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we can have victory
over sin through Christ
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not through our own
works, not through, you know,
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it's not about us...
it's about His righteousness
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Am I correct? Is that
where you're coming from
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That's right... The
Bible says, "If you abide in me
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and I abide in you... you
can ask anything in my name"
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Hmmmm... hmmmmmm
Live day by day...
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accepting Christ's righteousness
and our righteousness...
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like the Bible
says... is as filthy rags...
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Wow... ... and
Christ's righteousness
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like you said earlier...
He gives us the victory
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for that day... over
sin... we can only live...
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one day at a time...
Hmmmm, hmmmm that's a good point
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So, righteousness by
faith, victory over sin...
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what are some of
the other pillars?
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You have the health message
which is one of the things
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that we teach...
the health message
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overcoming eating certain things
that we believe are unclean
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and that we should not
be eating you also have
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righteousness by
faith, victory over sin,
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you have the Spirit of
Prophecy what we do need
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we need to get back to
the Spirit of Prophecy...
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because in the
Spirit of Prophecy
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God speaks to us
also. And so... with
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there are different factions
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I know, in the Church,
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like some folks... do believe
in the Spirit of Prophecy
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some folks don't... so
what you're saying is...
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you're pointing...
you're ministry is pointing
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people back to the Word of
God, to righteousness by faith
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to victory over sin, and
to the Spirit of Prophecy
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Exactly,
because... you and I both know
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in the last days... one
of the things that we'll
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be attacked is...
State of the Dead...
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and also... the
Sabbath... which comes under
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the Ten Commandments...
and so... when you look at the
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seven pillars of our
faith... it brings us to an area
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where we have to
see everything...
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and it leads us back
to the sanctuary message
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which is also important...
for us to understand
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righteousness by
faith... we have to go back
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to the sanctuary message...
Okay... so let's talk a little
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bit about the sanctuary
message, because a lot of people
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don't even know...
again, we can't assume that
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people that are watching
know what we're talking about...
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so... when we talk
about... the sanctuary...
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What is that?
What is that all about?
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Why is that important?
Because the sanctuary message
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tells us... what
Christ did for us...
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remember, any
priest, before he went into
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the Holy Place...
he had to go through
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the outer court...
that's where we get
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forgiveness for our
sins... that's where the blood
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is spilled... and if a
priest or a high priest
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were to walk into the
Holy Place with sin...
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he would be destroyed
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and the problem is...
we don't understand...
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we've been living
in the Outer Court
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we should be in the Holy
Place and move with Christ
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as He moves to
the Most Holy Place
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by the way we live...
and if we're living in the
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Outer Court... we
are not overcoming sin
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because we're trying to
do it in our own strength...
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How are we living
in the Outer Court...
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well, first of all...
okay, okay, let's go back
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and describe...
the different sections
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of the Sanctuary...
so, when you walk...
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so people can get...
like a mental picture...
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of what the
Sanctuary looks like...
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so just give us...
you don't have to give us
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like a real intense breakdown
but... when you walk in
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what section are you
in when you first enter
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the Sanctuary?
You're in the Outer Court
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and what happens there...
That's where the lambs are slain
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for those who commit sin, that's
where the blood is spilled.
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Okay... in the Outer
Court and then... from there...
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Then you go into the
Holy Place, Hmmm... hmmm...
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and then, from there, you
go to the Most Holy Place.
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What happens in the Holy Place?
The Holy Place is where we have
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righteousness by
faith... that's where
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Christ's righteousness is...
remember... where sin is...
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we have to clean ourselves
first and then we move to the
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next compartment in
our lives by accepting
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righteousness by faith...
and we get victory over sin
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but we cannot stay in
the Holy Place spiritually
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and live in sin... the
two don't go together...
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and that's where we get confused
when we teach the message
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we can have victory over sin
but the only way we can do that
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we have to look
at the heart sins.
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You see... Yvonne...
when we walk in the Church
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we're taught... oh, stop
doing this and stop doing that
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stop doing all
these other things...
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but God is looking
at the heart sins...
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and those are the sins
that we find so difficult
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to give up...
Yes... so not the external
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manifestation... so
much... but those inner sins...
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It's like those inner
sins that we have, Yvonne,
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those inner sins... like
when we get an attitude...
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when we get upset with someone
we always blame the other person
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we have to take responsibility
for our own sins...
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we have to understand
that when we get upset
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it's not the other
person... it's us...
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we allowed ourselves to be upset
we allowed ourselves to envious
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we allowed
ourselves to be jealous...
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we allowed
ourselves to be unkind...
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So, these inner
sins... envy, jealousy,
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unkindness to
others... these things...
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you're saying
that... we have control...
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over those
things... we have control
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over our response
to different things...
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Is that what you're
saying? We have the control?
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We don't have control...
we have to allow Christ
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to control us... Ah...
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His spirit to come
in... because remember...
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the Bible says...
"Though I speak words of love
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though I can do all these
things... and hath not love
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I'm nothing but a sounding
brass and a tinkling cymbal...
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The only way we can allow
Christ to take control of us
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is to say, "Lord, I'm about to
get upset... please help me. "
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and then... He
makes a way of escape...
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remember He always
makes a way of escape...
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it's our choice... the
part that we have to do is
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choose... either to
accept the way of escape
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or to keep going our own way...
It's a really interesting point
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Several years ago, I read
a book by Morris Venden...
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it was called... something about
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righteousness by
faith in your will...
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and what he was
saying is basically
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what you're
saying... that really...
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there's nothing we can really do
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we can't earn
salvation but what we can do...
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is to give God time
with us to work through us
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and put His righteousness
in us... other than that
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we really can't doing
anything to change ourselves...
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the Bible says, you
know, "Can an Ethiopian
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change his skin?" you
know... "or the leopard
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his spots... " we
can't change ourselves
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but the righteousness
of Christ can do that
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and so... I think
what you're saying is...
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by giving God
time... by focusing on Him
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and by giving Him our
will... yielding our will to Him
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He will then
change... our inner man...
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Those sins... that sin
that doth so easily beset us...
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that thing that we just
keep falling into by default
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Christ can change... Is
that what you're saying to me
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Exactly... we have to
be honest with ourselves...
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and tell God, "Look, I have a
problem and I need your help. "
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and most of the time,
it's something that happened
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in our past that
we never overcame...
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we're holding on
to those things...
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we have to learn how
to forgive and forget...
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when Christ was
about to be crucified
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when they were beating Him
with a cat o' nine tails...
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and when He...
eventually what He said was,
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"Father, forgive them...
for they know not what they do "
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His love for us
is unmatchless...
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His love for us reaches
down every time we fall...
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and saying, "You
can get up again"
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"Take my hand
and I'll take you up"
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Our problem is...
when we make a mistake
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we keep looking at a
solution that we come up with...
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and everything that we come
up with... like the Bible says,
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"is as filthy rags"
that's our self-righteousness
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we feel bad... and 3 days
later we think we can go on...
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and the devil just
sets up another trap...
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and Christ is saying
clearly... "If I abide in you
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and you abide in me, you
can ask anything in my name"
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and what we need to do is
accept Christ's righteousness
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give up ours... and
when His righteousness
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comes in... it's no longer "us"
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but it's "Him" that lives
in us, and helps us to move
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and make the right decisions...
That a very good point...
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when we ask Christ
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to really work
this thing through
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then... He will do that...
there's another book I read
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about seven answers to prayer
that God always answers "yes" to
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and one of them is... "help"...
when we are asking God for help
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for wisdom... He
will give us that...
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to help us through whatever
it is we're going through
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but one of the things
that I noticed, Ruben,
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and you tell me if this
is your experience as well...
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many times if
you're caught up into...
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whether it is unforgiveness
or whatever it is...
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you don't really
feel like praying...
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you don't really
feel like giving it to God
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and so what do you
do... during those times
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when you don't really
feel like pressing through,
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what do you do?
Well, one of the problems
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we have to deal with... and I
didn't mention this before, it's
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we have to be honest with sin,
sin feels good, sin tastes good
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and sin is good... we
have to lose that taste
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for sin... and
when we feel like..
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like doing anything... we
have to understand one thing
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God is a God of principle
regardless of how we feel
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His love for us never changes...
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it never changes
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it's not based on
feelings it's based on principle
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and once we get...
and start feeling that way
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we're allowing
ourselves to get in the way
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of God's forgiveness, and
that's what the devil wants.
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We don't believe
that when God says,
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"I forgive you" you
have to really believe
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that He forgives you...
and that He throws it into
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His sea of forgetfulness
and that's what the problem is
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we keep thinking...
"Did God really forgive me?"
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"Did He really cleanse me
from all unrighteousness?"
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"Can I really get up
now?" "Do I have to lose
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these feelings?"
"How do I get rid of them?
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You have to take up His yoke...
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where He said,
"Take up your yoke,
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and learn of Me... "
once we ask forgiveness
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then we spend time in the Word,
and in the Spirit of Prophecy
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and the Bible... and
get to know Christ...
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one of the best
books I've ever read
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to get to know Christ
is the "Desire of Ages"
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is Jesus Christ
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Yes... that book is so powerful
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and everytime I read it
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I get something new from
it... you can just sense that...
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it really makes Christ...
come alive... you know...
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it just expands on the
Word, it's such a good book,
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to me it's the best book,
of course, excluding the Bible
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the best book
about Christ's life...
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that I've ever read...
it's so profound and what you
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were saying, Ruben,
about the love of God...
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that is so deep
because people need to
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understand that God loves
us He's not in heaven trying to
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wait to zap us...
and kill us and like...
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you know... be
like a cosmic killjoy
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no... He wants the best
for us, He's got a plan for us
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He wants
everything... it's not His will
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that any should perish...
but that all should come to
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repentence...
that's what He wants
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He wants to save us... and
He's going to do everything
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He's laid heaven out... for
us, but we have to be willing
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to take advantage
of that... to tap into
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that heavenly
resource... He's giving us...
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all heaven is at our disposal...
to help us to have victory
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so that one day...
we can be with Christ...
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So how does your
ministry... then...
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tie into all of this
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what are you doing then to
share this information about
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Christ's righteousness?
Well, what we're teaching people
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is once you commit a sin
you ask God's forgiveness
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and you take Him at his word...
you have to take Him at his word
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feelings have
nothing to do with it...
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and by doing that...
it helps you to understand
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that when we sin...
the Spirit of Prophecy
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the Bible and the
Spirit of Prophecy
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show us that God
pity for us is infinite...
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He does not stop loving us...
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and one of the stories I tell
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I ask people the question...
"What is it that makes the devil
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so happy and so full of
joy when he is burning...
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he'll be the last
one to burn up... "
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and all these people will say,
"Oh, because of all the people
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he's taken with him... "
No, it's because God loves him
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so much... even though
he has to destroy him...
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He will never forget
him... that's His son...
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He created him... and
though He has to destroy sin
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that's why He said,
"I have no good pleasure
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in the
destruction of the wicked"
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and we have to understand that
He'll go.. all the way for us...
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if He has to... He'll
dispatch every angel in heaven
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to help one soul
to overcome sin...
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So, overcoming sin is a critical
piece, then, you're saying
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to, of course, our
spiritual growth...
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so, for those that
say, "Well, I can't stop...
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I can't stop sinning...
you know, this is just who I am
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God knows my heart...
I mean... He knows that
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I want to stop
but.. I just can't stop. "
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What do you say to that?
They have not given up "self"
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it's just... plain and clear...
they have not given up self...
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they haven't come
to the realization
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they haven't reached that point
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where they pour
their hearts out to God...
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no one can stop sinning...
we can't... it's our nature...
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we were born in sin
and shaken in iniquity
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and so... we have to
understand, we need a power
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way beyond
ourselves... to do that...
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and that's where it comes
with Christ's righteousness.
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He gives us the
power to overcome sin.
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When the woman was
caught in adultery...
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What did Christ say to
her? Who are your accusers?
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She said, "I have none Lord. "
He said, "Go and sin no more. "
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But if you take that word
and you really look at it...
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He said, "Go... and I give
you the power to overcome sin. "
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Hmmmmm... that's
a beautiful thing...
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so, as you said earlier...
Christ's love for us is infinite
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it's an infinite
love that we cannot...
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we can't even
fathom that kind of love...
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We can't even fathom that...
It cannot even enter into the
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hearts of man...
how much God loves us...
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and we can't measure
it... there's nothing
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to measure it with...
and the devil does everything
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he can to make us
feel sorry for ourselves
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and even feeling
sorry for yourself is sin...
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because Christ died on
the cross even for that...
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Hmmmm... so, again...
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So... "Time for the Loud
Cry" then... your ministry...
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has been formulated to explain
all of this to its listeners...
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like tell us what...
how does it manifest...
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is it on TV, is it
radio, is it the internet...
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what is "Time for the Loud
Cry?" We have a call-in show
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and now we've just
installed a new feature
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it's "Time for
the Loud Cry" TV...
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We'll be streaming as we
go to different Churches...
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and traveling to
different places...
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doing live seminars...
and doing a lot of things
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that help people to understand,
but on Friday night...
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is when... we go through
the Spirit of Prophecy...
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we go through the
Bible... we go through
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the time of the
judgment the judgment...
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the investigative judgment...
the executive judgment
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the final judgment...
we have to teach them
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to understand the
judgment pointing to
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righteousness by
faith... once you show them
00:20:18.12\00:20:20.39
and take them through
the sanctuary promises
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then they start to
understand the love for Christ
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and what he has done for
us... how He sacrificed His life
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how He stood there and
allowed these men to abuse Him
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and He never
said another word...
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Christ never
tried to justify Himself
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and our biggest problem is...
Yvonne, we're always trying
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to justify ourselves
when someone says something...
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we don't have to answer,
we can take the high road,
00:20:42.97\00:20:45.65
we can say, "Lord, I want
to say something... but give me
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the strength...
not to say anything...
00:20:49.40\00:20:50.74
and put it in your hands...
" and Christ will do it...
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because He's in
the saving business
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He doesn't want us to be
lost, He doesn't want the person
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that we may or may not be
upset with to be lost either
00:20:59.35\00:21:02.39
and once we
understand what true love is...
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and true love can
only be found in Christ.
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Hmmm... that is
absolutely true, God is love...
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that's the bottom
line, God is love...
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and true love can be
found, through Jesus Christ.
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The Bible says clearly
"Fear God and give glory to Him
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for the hour of
his judgment is coming
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worship Him who made
the heavens and the earth,
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the seas and the
fountains of water... "
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What does the word "fear"
mean? It means to love Him
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and Christ said, "If you
love me keep my commandments. "
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Yes, yes, yes... so describe
the programs that you have
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on your radio program...
like... on your internet program
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describe what
happens... so if someone goes to
00:21:48.62\00:21:52.93
timefortheloudcry. com
what are they going to hear?
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Well, the first hour of my
program, we are on 4 hours a day
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on the Sabbath...
in the afternoon...
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the first program they
hear is the health message
00:22:02.81\00:22:05.50
the health message is
the right arm of the gospel
00:22:05.53\00:22:08.19
so we present the
health message first...
00:22:08.22\00:22:10.76
and then from there...
we go into the Bible...
00:22:10.80\00:22:13.15
the Spirit of
Prophecy... or what subject
00:22:13.18\00:22:15.25
you may be
talking about that day...
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I know very soon...
we're going to be doing some
00:22:17.32\00:22:19.47
stuff more with the
sanctuary message...
00:22:19.51\00:22:21.56
and also with the
Bible and Spirit of Prophecy
00:22:21.59\00:22:24.05
to draw people closer
to get back to studying...
00:22:24.08\00:22:26.43
We need to study... to
show ourselves approved
00:22:26.46\00:22:28.73
not being ashamed but rightly
dividing the word of truth...
00:22:28.77\00:22:31.29
and once we can do
that... and we fix and focus
00:22:31.33\00:22:34.48
our eyes on Christ...
He said, "Let this mind be
00:22:34.51\00:22:37.62
in you which is
also in Christ Jesus... "
00:22:37.66\00:22:39.78
and then we walk
differently, we talk differently
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because it's no longer us...
but it's Christ's righteousness
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in us... the hope of glory...
Wow, so, ok, so when a listener
00:22:45.74\00:22:52.12
calls in... are the
seminars interactive...
00:22:52.15\00:22:56.19
do they get to ask
questions or do they sit there
00:22:56.22\00:22:59.89
and listen and take
notes... is it a passive thing
00:22:59.93\00:23:03.12
is it an interactive
thing... how does it work?
00:23:03.15\00:23:06.31
Some of them are,
and some of them are not
00:23:06.34\00:23:08.77
and we do have interactive
everytime we come on...
00:23:08.80\00:23:11.83
they get a chance to do Q
and A they can ask a question
00:23:11.86\00:23:15.49
and they can ask
us to make something
00:23:15.53\00:23:18.14
a little clearer for
them... if we need to...
00:23:18.17\00:23:20.63
we call them after the program,
and work with them.. that way...
00:23:20.67\00:23:23.48
and then there are times
where we have a group of people
00:23:23.51\00:23:26.30
about six at a
time will come on...
00:23:26.33\00:23:29.07
and each one will read a Bible
text pertaining to the message
00:23:29.10\00:23:32.34
we're talking
about... so they can get
00:23:32.38\00:23:34.44
a clear understanding...
and then we'll ask people,
00:23:34.48\00:23:36.76
"Okay... if you have a question
or a comment, you can come in
00:23:36.80\00:23:39.73
now and ask your question
or make your comment... "
00:23:39.76\00:23:42.04
now everybody
doesn't agree with us...
00:23:42.07\00:23:43.72
but the bottom line
is... is that we all agree
00:23:43.76\00:23:46.49
that we have to be in Christ,
in order for us to be saved.
00:23:46.52\00:23:49.85
Yes, yes... so
it's a Bible Study time
00:23:49.89\00:23:54.63
or it's a study time,
whether you're studying
00:23:54.67\00:23:56.79
the Bible or the
Spirit of Prophecy...
00:23:56.83\00:23:58.74
it's a studying time
that... kind of a guided study
00:23:58.78\00:24:04.07
where people can
ask questions but yet
00:24:04.10\00:24:07.37
everybody is kind of able
to share... if they want to...
00:24:07.40\00:24:12.52
Is that correct?
Exactly... we have different
00:24:12.55\00:24:14.93
speakers that come on
from all over the Country
00:24:14.97\00:24:17.32
that share
messages... even after the end
00:24:17.35\00:24:20.86
of the message that
are not interactive...
00:24:20.89\00:24:22.58
we do allow a chance for
everyone to ask a question
00:24:22.62\00:24:26.17
and make a comment...
whether you disagree or
00:24:26.20\00:24:28.90
don't agree...
we're not there to...
00:24:28.94\00:24:30.59
we're just there to
share, we are not there to argue
00:24:30.63\00:24:33.54
with anyone...
we're just there to share.
00:24:33.58\00:24:35.62
And as long as we can
walk away from the program
00:24:35.66\00:24:38.15
knowing that we
still love one another,
00:24:38.19\00:24:40.14
the Lord will take
care of the rest...
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All right, so who are some of
the speakers... that you have?
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Well, we have Pastor
Gordon out in Washington State,
00:24:44.87\00:24:47.91
we have Elder Darren
Staker down in Tennessee,
00:24:47.94\00:24:50.57
we have Pastor Marvin
Parks he is also in Tennessee...
00:24:50.60\00:24:54.31
we have other pastors
who call in from overseas...
00:24:54.34\00:24:57.86
we have ministers from
all over we even have women
00:24:57.89\00:25:01.37
who come in and put on a program
00:25:01.40\00:25:03.29
health programs and
all kinds of things...
00:25:03.33\00:25:06.41
we even have young people
who come on and sing for us
00:25:06.44\00:25:09.54
we do a variety of
things that help everyone...
00:25:09.57\00:25:12.69
and the numbers are
growing God is blessing
00:25:12.72\00:25:15.38
we even have a lot
of countries overseas
00:25:15.42\00:25:18.04
that I didn't even know we had
00:25:18.08\00:25:19.50
and it's amazing to see
how the ministry is growing
00:25:19.53\00:25:22.31
and we stick
closely to what we believe
00:25:22.34\00:25:24.96
and we always do our
texts before we even come on
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to make sure...
that we're preaching
00:25:28.04\00:25:29.81
the straight testimony...
That's very important
00:25:29.85\00:25:33.71
that's very important...
so how did this whole idea
00:25:33.75\00:25:36.83
come to be? Where did
"Time for the Loud Cry"
00:25:36.87\00:25:39.79
come from? Well,
the context came to us
00:25:39.83\00:25:42.59
while we were sitting
there watching the computer
00:25:42.62\00:25:44.54
so we always hear,
"Loud Cry... loud cry... "
00:25:44.57\00:25:46.41
and I said, "I think it's
time for the loud cry... "
00:25:46.45\00:25:48.77
I wasn't working at the time...
00:25:48.80\00:25:50.34
still am not... but you know,
the joy of working for the Lord
00:25:50.38\00:25:54.14
is what I want to
do now and that's how
00:25:54.18\00:25:55.92
Time for the
Loud Cry came about...
00:25:55.96\00:25:57.63
I didn't even know if
it was going to work...
00:25:57.67\00:25:59.18
but it has exploded
because God is the one
00:25:59.21\00:26:02.22
that sits on the throne
of Time for the Loud Cry...
00:26:02.26\00:26:04.93
we follow everything that the
Bible and the Spirit of Prophecy
00:26:04.96\00:26:07.62
teach us... but
we do it in a way
00:26:07.66\00:26:10.23
that everybody can
understand it we use 80% Bible
00:26:10.27\00:26:13.58
20% Spirit of Prophecy...
so we round everything off
00:26:13.62\00:26:16.59
to help everybody to
understand what we truly believe
00:26:16.63\00:26:19.35
and if there's something
that we don't even understand
00:26:19.38\00:26:21.76
we always let them know
that we'll get back to you
00:26:21.79\00:26:24.13
and that's when the
phone starts to call...
00:26:24.17\00:26:26.30
we start to call
people... ask their opinion
00:26:26.34\00:26:28.70
and then we search
ourselves and make sure
00:26:28.74\00:26:31.03
because we don't know everything
we have to be like the Bereans
00:26:31.07\00:26:34.58
in the last days...
"Study to show yourself approved
00:26:34.62\00:26:37.13
not needing to be ashamed,
00:26:37.17\00:26:38.21
but rightly
dividing the word of truth.
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Amen... amen.. so every year you
have some event around in July,
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tell us what you do
every year in July...
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Well, every 3rd weekend in
July, we always have the people
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who come on the
line to come and meet us
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wherever we are going to
be... and we have them come
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from all over the
Country, they get to meet us
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for the first time...
which draws us even closer
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to one another... and
the funny thing about it is
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they'll come and they'll say,
"Elder Carr, I was listening
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to you and I had you
looking like someone else... "
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"Well, I thought you
look like someone else. "
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We are always trying to
think of how the person looks
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by the way their voices sound,
and the surprises that we have
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gotten is amazing...
Ha... ha... ha... you know,
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it is really important to
be able to match that voice
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with the face...
because sometimes you talk
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to people on the phone
and you just really don't have
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a concept of what they look
like till you meet them... so...
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that is a true
point... that is true...
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Ruben, thank you so much
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for being with us
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and for sharing
this information with us.
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Do you have anything else
that you want to share quickly?
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For God so loved the world that
He gave His only begotten son
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that whosoever believeth
in Him shall not perish
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but have
everlasting life... Amen...
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I can't say
anything more than that...
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Once again... it's time to go...
Thank you so much for tuning in.
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Tune in next time... it
just wouldn't be the same
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without you...
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