One of my favorite physicians is with us via Skype... 00:00:01.06\00:00:03.98 Stay tuned... you won't want to miss 00:00:04.01\00:00:06.16 his life-saving tips... 00:00:06.19\00:00:07.53 My name is Yvonne Lewis and you're watching 00:00:07.57\00:00:10.09 Urban Report... 00:00:10.13\00:00:11.28 Hello and welcome to Urban Report... 00:00:32.25\00:00:35.23 My guest today is Dr. James Marcum 00:00:35.27\00:00:38.22 Physician, Author and Host of 3ABN's Program 00:00:38.26\00:00:41.74 "Ultimate Prescription" 00:00:41.78\00:00:43.17 Welcome to Urban Report Dr. Marcum... 00:00:43.21\00:00:46.16 Thank you... I'm so glad to be here... 00:00:46.20\00:00:49.11 I hope the weather is good there as it is here... 00:00:49.15\00:00:51.74 It is so beautiful here, it's going to be in the 80s here 00:00:51.78\00:00:54.82 we're at the... well, I won't say where we are 00:00:54.86\00:00:56.56 because we don't want people to know 00:00:56.60\00:00:58.70 we're taping this... but it is wonderful... 00:00:58.73\00:01:02.33 the weather here is beautiful, what about... where you are? 00:01:02.37\00:01:04.94 It's great... and actually the sun's out today 00:01:04.98\00:01:07.66 we want everyone to get out in the sun at least 20 minutes 00:01:07.69\00:01:10.59 three times a week... that will help their Vitamin D 00:01:10.62\00:01:13.67 which will increase the medicine in the brain called 00:01:13.71\00:01:16.72 Serotonin... which will help fight depression 00:01:16.75\00:01:19.19 Come on now... see, already, we're learning 00:01:19.23\00:01:21.64 stuff... already... you know, Dr. Jim, some people 00:01:21.67\00:01:24.95 might not know about your background 00:01:24.98\00:01:27.31 tell us where you grew up and how did you get 00:01:27.34\00:01:30.20 into this whole medical field? 00:01:30.24\00:01:31.79 Well, you know, years ago, I grew up in Florida 00:01:31.82\00:01:35.80 and subsequently I moved to Texas 00:01:35.83\00:01:38.47 and I went to School... Undergraduate... 00:01:38.51\00:01:40.04 to the University of Texas, and then after that 00:01:40.08\00:01:42.82 I went to Medical School, in San Antonio... 00:01:42.86\00:01:45.53 and then I did Internal Medicine and ultimately Cardiology 00:01:45.56\00:01:49.07 and what I found out... that modern medicine is great, 00:01:49.10\00:01:52.49 at treating symptoms... but it doesn't do a whole lot 00:01:52.52\00:01:55.87 about getting at the cause of disease... 00:01:55.91\00:01:58.77 Come on... you're talking my language now. 00:01:58.80\00:02:01.44 So, about... in 2006, we formed a ministry 00:02:01.48\00:02:03.74 to let people know the truth of Medicine 00:02:03.77\00:02:05.96 called, "Heartwise Ministries" and slowly we started 00:02:06.00\00:02:09.43 getting the word out... we realized that the ultimate 00:02:09.46\00:02:12.86 text book was the Bible, and that within the Bible, 00:02:12.89\00:02:16.49 we had tons of great prescriptions 00:02:16.53\00:02:19.21 for chronic disease, ways to help us keep 00:02:19.25\00:02:21.66 from getting sick, and treatments for people 00:02:21.70\00:02:25.04 that were actually sick... So, you mean to say, 00:02:25.08\00:02:28.39 that the Bible which so many people 00:02:28.43\00:02:31.80 especially in this modern time that we live in... 00:02:31.84\00:02:35.27 so many people think that the Bible is irrelevant 00:02:35.31\00:02:38.71 to modern-day life... and certainly... 00:02:38.74\00:02:41.97 not connected to Science, you're telling us 00:02:42.01\00:02:44.92 that the Bible has prescriptions for living, 00:02:44.96\00:02:47.81 for Health and Wellness, Absolutely, Yvonne, and you know 00:02:47.84\00:02:53.38 we don't want people not to think that there's 00:02:53.42\00:02:55.66 not a place for modern medicine, there is a place 00:02:55.70\00:02:58.32 for modern medicine... especially in emergencies... 00:02:58.35\00:03:00.90 if your heart's going too slow, I want a person to have 00:03:00.93\00:03:03.58 a pacemaker if you're having a heart attack, 00:03:03.61\00:03:06.10 I want to put in a stent... 00:03:06.13\00:03:07.32 if you're bleeding to death, I want to stop the bleeding... 00:03:07.36\00:03:10.35 but for chronic disease, a lot of the conditions we're in 00:03:10.39\00:03:14.26 the Bible has Science-proven methods to change 00:03:14.29\00:03:17.98 our Chemistry to get us back more to the original design 00:03:18.02\00:03:22.14 which doesn't turn on some of our genetics 00:03:22.18\00:03:24.62 you know, there's a spiel called epigenetics right now, 00:03:24.66\00:03:28.02 where certain genes are turned on by environmental factors 00:03:28.06\00:03:31.39 so the Bible dealt with all of this 00:03:31.43\00:03:33.86 and helped us learn about this many, many years ago... 00:03:33.90\00:03:36.35 Wow, that is so exciting... one of the things 00:03:36.39\00:03:40.88 that affect African Americans more than the general population 00:03:40.92\00:03:45.43 in fact, about 40 percent of adult African Americans 00:03:45.47\00:03:50.90 have Hypertension... 00:03:50.93\00:03:53.21 what would you say 00:03:53.24\00:03:55.45 are some of the causes of Hypertension... 00:03:55.49\00:03:58.57 High blood pressure? First, I want to make sure 00:03:58.60\00:04:01.37 everyone understands what Hypertension is 00:04:01.40\00:04:04.29 or High blood pressure... Yvonne, sometimes they call it 00:04:04.32\00:04:08.25 the hidden killer... because you don't even know 00:04:08.28\00:04:10.76 that the blood pressure is going so fast 00:04:10.80\00:04:13.00 in your body... but High blood pressure 00:04:13.04\00:04:15.36 over time can lead to heart disease 00:04:15.40\00:04:17.65 can lead to strokes, it can lead to kidney disease, 00:04:17.68\00:04:21.33 it can cause aneurysms, it can lead to dementia, 00:04:21.36\00:04:24.97 and a lot of people don't even have their 00:04:25.00\00:04:27.35 blood pressure checked, but everyone should 00:04:27.39\00:04:29.67 get out there and get their blood pressure checked 00:04:29.70\00:04:31.81 it's the devise that goes around your arm 00:04:31.84\00:04:34.03 called a Blood Pressure Cuff, a fancy name for what is 00:04:34.07\00:04:37.57 called a sphygmomanometer and if your blood pressure 00:04:37.60\00:04:41.19 is above a 140 on the top... that's when the heart 00:04:41.22\00:04:44.77 first pumps... or above 90 when it relaxes 00:04:44.81\00:04:48.45 you might have High blood pressure 00:04:48.48\00:04:50.67 so, when anyone has a diagnosis of this... 00:04:50.70\00:04:53.72 let's say 3 or 4 times when they're nice and relaxed 00:04:53.75\00:04:56.45 their blood pressure is high, now everyone goes up 00:04:56.48\00:04:59.03 occasionally... you know, you get excited when 00:04:59.06\00:05:01.53 you're doing your television program 00:05:01.56\00:05:03.30 or you get excited about something... 00:05:03.33\00:05:04.99 it might go up, but that blood pressure 00:05:05.02\00:05:06.61 should come right back down... so, if it's up all the time 00:05:06.64\00:05:10.24 you might have High blood pressure 00:05:10.27\00:05:11.77 and when a person comes in with High blood pressure 00:05:11.81\00:05:14.36 first thing I want to do is, first of all... 00:05:14.39\00:05:15.86 make sure that no organs have been damaged... 00:05:15.89\00:05:19.11 and we do that by checking the urine and EKG... 00:05:19.14\00:05:22.33 making sure they're thinking right... 00:05:22.37\00:05:24.10 making sure the heart's doing well, 00:05:24.14\00:05:25.80 but the next thing I ask, "Why... why do they have 00:05:25.84\00:05:29.30 High blood pressure? What is putting stress 00:05:29.33\00:05:32.49 on the body that could make the adrenalin and cortisol 00:05:32.53\00:05:35.36 go up... for the blood pressure to go up... 00:05:35.39\00:05:37.31 and guess what that the number one causes 00:05:37.35\00:05:39.84 of High blood pressure is now? What? 00:05:39.88\00:05:42.66 just carrying extra weight, Wow! 00:05:42.70\00:05:45.41 extra weight makes these chemicals... adrenalin cortisol 00:05:45.45\00:05:48.10 which raises blood pressure... so some people... 00:05:48.13\00:05:50.80 just by becoming active and losing a few pounds 00:05:50.84\00:05:53.47 their blood pressure will come down... 00:05:53.50\00:05:55.64 another cause of High blood pressure is 00:05:55.67\00:05:57.92 inactivity... well when you sit around 00:05:57.95\00:06:00.00 that leads to High blood pressure... 00:06:00.03\00:06:02.04 there are some conditions that people don't even realize 00:06:02.08\00:06:04.77 they have... one that's called Sleep Apnea... 00:06:04.80\00:06:07.00 where people don't breath good at night... 00:06:07.04\00:06:09.33 well when people don't breathe good at night 00:06:09.36\00:06:11.62 that makes the stress chemicals go up 00:06:11.66\00:06:13.87 which causes high blood pressure as well 00:06:13.91\00:06:16.06 So, there is a relationship between Sleep Apnea 00:06:16.09\00:06:19.53 and High Blood Pressure... Absolutely... 00:06:19.57\00:06:21.63 and other things that people don't think 00:06:21.66\00:06:23.65 Thyroid Disease can cause High blood pressure... 00:06:23.69\00:06:26.42 Kidney disease can cause High blood pressure... 00:06:26.45\00:06:29.15 chronic pain can cause High Blood Pressure 00:06:29.18\00:06:32.40 there are certain things that we eat 00:06:32.43\00:06:34.30 that cause High blood pressure, everyone's heard of salt... 00:06:34.33\00:06:36.99 but there's sodium in almost all the processed food 00:06:37.02\00:06:40.88 that we eat... things like licorice 00:06:40.91\00:06:42.85 can raise your blood pressure, Yes... 00:06:42.89\00:06:44.76 and even certain medicines can raise your blood pressure 00:06:44.79\00:06:47.40 as well... so, when a person has 00:06:47.44\00:06:49.94 High blood pressure, I go down that big list 00:06:49.97\00:06:51.89 and see if I can figure out why they have High blood pressure... 00:06:51.93\00:06:54.37 And see, that's so important because, one of the things 00:06:54.40\00:06:58.19 that people are told, many times... 00:06:58.23\00:07:00.70 is... they're given the diagnosis of 00:07:00.74\00:07:03.15 essential Hypertension... and that essentially means 00:07:03.18\00:07:06.48 we don't know what causes it... Exactly... 00:07:06.51\00:07:09.13 So, it's so important and this is why 00:07:09.17\00:07:11.51 you are one of my favorite physicians 00:07:11.55\00:07:13.82 because... you really do consider the root cause... 00:07:13.86\00:07:18.24 you're not just about treating the symptoms 00:07:18.28\00:07:21.17 through medication... you are... into... 00:07:21.21\00:07:24.03 finding out, "What is the root cause of this disorder... 00:07:24.06\00:07:28.07 and it can also be... related to emotions 00:07:28.11\00:07:32.04 Exactly... Tell us how unforgiveness, 00:07:32.07\00:07:34.52 for example, can lead to hypertension... 00:07:34.56\00:07:38.87 Well, Yvonne, if you get back to anything that stresses 00:07:38.90\00:07:42.61 the body... makes chemicals like adrenalin and cortisol 00:07:42.65\00:07:46.22 which raises the blood pressure, so any type of stress 00:07:46.25\00:07:49.75 which I define as living in ways that God didn't intend us to do, 00:07:49.78\00:07:53.98 and that could be living in pain... 00:07:54.02\00:07:55.72 living in fear, and also, having guilt... 00:07:55.75\00:07:58.52 when you have this, the part of the brain 00:07:58.56\00:08:01.26 that governs our stress part the Limbic system 00:08:01.30\00:08:04.42 the medulla starts firing like crazy... 00:08:04.45\00:08:07.23 it makes all these stress chemicals 00:08:07.26\00:08:10.00 and stress chemicals are great if you're running from danger 00:08:10.04\00:08:13.83 or if you're running away from a snake 00:08:13.86\00:08:15.39 or if there is a fire in your home, 00:08:15.43\00:08:17.23 but you make the stress chemicals 00:08:17.27\00:08:19.04 chronically day after day 00:08:19.08\00:08:20.91 year after year... it starts to damage your body... 00:08:20.94\00:08:24.06 so what happens... all these chemicals raises 00:08:24.09\00:08:26.51 your stress chemistry, so it raises your blood pressure 00:08:26.55\00:08:29.77 so you can run from the danger, but it can also cause 00:08:29.81\00:08:33.00 long-term damage... also chronic stress 00:08:33.03\00:08:36.09 chronic guilt, fear, these types of things 00:08:36.12\00:08:38.69 also damage the front part of our brain, 00:08:38.72\00:08:41.26 so we can't think as well... 00:08:41.29\00:08:42.89 and things that can also, in addition to guilt 00:08:42.93\00:08:46.15 we think of fear, we think of people who watch 00:08:46.18\00:08:49.37 prolonged violence on TV... that can also stimulate 00:08:49.40\00:08:53.69 the stress cascade... things like pornography 00:08:53.72\00:08:56.62 or anything that our body wasn't designed to have 00:08:56.65\00:08:59.51 done to it... could trigger the stress cascade 00:08:59.55\00:09:02.37 which could raise your blood pressure... 00:09:02.41\00:09:03.89 So, "as a man thinketh" has so much truth to it, 00:09:03.92\00:09:06.94 just by controlling our thoughts our fears, our anxiety... 00:09:06.97\00:09:10.08 our guilt... we could lower the chance of us 00:09:10.12\00:09:13.46 turning on these chemicals and lower our blood pressure... 00:09:13.50\00:09:16.90 You know, it's so interesting to me that there is this 00:09:16.93\00:09:20.30 mind-body connection... that God did not create 00:09:20.33\00:09:24.53 us as these beings that have isolated aspects 00:09:24.57\00:09:28.73 but actually inter-dependent aspects 00:09:28.77\00:09:31.35 so that when we are subjected to violence 00:09:31.38\00:09:36.42 and a lot of video games, I think for young people too 00:09:36.45\00:09:41.69 and we're probably finding more hypertension 00:09:41.73\00:09:44.01 in younger people as well now because of this whole 00:09:44.05\00:09:48.19 thrust of violence, it's so interesting to me that 00:09:48.23\00:09:52.40 we have this connection between the mind and the body 00:09:52.43\00:09:56.57 and the spiritual aspects of the person... 00:09:56.61\00:09:59.63 one of the things that I found also 00:09:59.67\00:10:04.06 in my research 00:10:04.10\00:10:05.41 was... because I used to have a wellness practice 00:10:05.44\00:10:08.91 in Dallas... and I had patients that would come to me with 00:10:08.94\00:10:12.34 Hypertension, and one of the things 00:10:12.37\00:10:14.29 can be a Magnesium deficiency, that can be a source of 00:10:14.33\00:10:19.23 the Hypertension as well... and many people 00:10:19.27\00:10:21.87 don't realize that if they test 00:10:21.90\00:10:23.67 the Erythrocyte Magnesium the Red Blood Cell Magnesium 00:10:23.70\00:10:27.52 that's better than the Serum Magnesium 00:10:27.56\00:10:30.15 for determining that there is a deficiency... 00:10:30.18\00:10:33.17 some people don't even know that they might have 00:10:33.21\00:10:35.32 Hypertension just because they have a Magnesium deficiency 00:10:35.36\00:10:38.22 and if they eat certain fruits and vegetables 00:10:38.25\00:10:40.83 they can get more Magnesium into their diet... 00:10:40.87\00:10:43.41 Tell us how the Bible fits in to 00:10:43.45\00:10:48.32 High blood pressure... health... You know, I think Yvonne, 00:10:48.35\00:10:53.21 the Bible fits into everything 00:10:53.24\00:10:55.40 and God wants us to feel well and be well 00:10:55.44\00:10:58.88 and if we go back... to the original design 00:10:58.92\00:11:02.29 we weren't designed to have High blood pressure... 00:11:02.33\00:11:04.84 we were designed to have normal blood pressure, 00:11:04.88\00:11:07.36 our original design was not to have stress 00:11:07.39\00:11:10.56 on our body from all the things we talked about... 00:11:10.60\00:11:13.02 whether the low Magnesium or extra weight 00:11:13.05\00:11:16.34 or not sleeping good at night, or putting a lot of sodium 00:11:16.38\00:11:19.32 in our bodies... having chronic physical pain 00:11:19.35\00:11:22.00 or having chronic mental pain, 00:11:22.03\00:11:24.06 all which can cause stress 00:11:24.10\00:11:26.06 which raises the blood pressure, 00:11:26.10\00:11:27.70 so what I encourage people to do is 00:11:27.74\00:11:29.28 get into the Bible, and study how God made us 00:11:29.31\00:11:32.05 originally... and try to work towards that 00:11:32.09\00:11:34.80 in our lives... God made us to rest, 00:11:34.83\00:11:37.03 so rest is a wonderful, Biblical treatment... 00:11:37.07\00:11:40.20 for High blood pressure... both a weekly rest, 00:11:40.23\00:11:43.45 as well as a nightly rest, how many people now 00:11:43.49\00:11:46.64 take a day off and rest? Oh, Dr. Marcum, that is such 00:11:46.68\00:11:52.37 a critical piece... because if God hadn't built 00:11:52.40\00:11:55.75 into the Ten Commandments... the Commandments on rest... 00:11:55.79\00:11:58.75 I think we'd just work ourselves to death... 00:11:58.78\00:12:00.47 That's right... we just keep going... 00:12:00.51\00:12:03.06 and keep going... and you also said something 00:12:03.09\00:12:05.70 that really, really resonated with me... and that is 00:12:05.73\00:12:08.82 chronic emotional pain 00:12:08.85\00:12:11.01 Yes... so many people... 00:12:11.04\00:12:13.13 are carrying these heavy 00:12:13.16\00:12:15.37 burdens and they don't realize that 00:12:15.40\00:12:17.44 if they just take their burdens to the Lord 00:12:17.47\00:12:20.10 and leave them there, what a physical blessing 00:12:20.14\00:12:22.74 that would be... involved in that... 00:12:22.77\00:12:24.74 Can you give us an example of one of your patients 00:12:24.78\00:12:27.95 that had chronic emotional pain that changed that through 00:12:27.99\00:12:32.02 Biblical principles? Well, I had a female 00:12:32.05\00:12:35.00 that came to me not too long ago, 00:12:35.04\00:12:36.90 that had a plethora of problems in her middle forties 00:12:36.93\00:12:41.39 and it was a disaster because originally it started 00:12:41.42\00:12:44.91 because she had foot pain... because she wore high heels 00:12:44.95\00:12:48.17 to work every single day and she started to have 00:12:48.21\00:12:51.19 bad foot pain... well, that led to a surgery 00:12:51.22\00:12:54.14 gaining of 50 pounds when she gained 50 pounds, 00:12:54.17\00:12:56.88 she got High blood pressure, 00:12:56.91\00:12:58.60 diabetes and sleep apnea she kept adding on 00:12:58.64\00:13:01.63 more and more medications, they eventually fired her 00:13:01.66\00:13:05.30 from her job... because she was on narcotics 00:13:05.34\00:13:07.28 and couldn't function well, she didn't know where to go, 00:13:07.32\00:13:10.07 she was on 7 or 8 medications when I first met her, 00:13:10.10\00:13:13.36 and the poor thing... she didn't choose this 00:13:13.40\00:13:16.17 and it all started with pain from high heel shoes... 00:13:16.20\00:13:18.74 and that was the standard in their office 00:13:18.77\00:13:22.08 to wear high heel shoes everyday so, we slowly got her back 00:13:22.11\00:13:25.97 to God's plan... we said, 00:13:26.01\00:13:27.54 "Listen, let's teach her how to rest better... 00:13:27.58\00:13:30.07 how to get some of the stress off her life... 00:13:30.10\00:13:32.19 to turn to God... to eat healthy foods... 00:13:32.22\00:13:34.59 to start an exercise program, to come off some of these 00:13:34.63\00:13:38.64 medications which were causing side effects... 00:13:38.67\00:13:41.24 and then, we also talked to her about something 00:13:41.28\00:13:43.78 that's very interesting now Yvonne, you know a lot of people 00:13:43.82\00:13:46.51 don't realize that everything that comes into our body 00:13:46.55\00:13:49.98 our food, our thoughts, our fears, the way we view God, 00:13:50.02\00:13:53.41 can affect our genetics, there's an evolving field 00:13:53.45\00:13:57.43 out there called "Epigenetics" 00:13:57.46\00:13:59.35 where we activate genes by the way we think, 00:13:59.38\00:14:02.29 the way we feel, and the way we act, 00:14:02.33\00:14:04.56 and these genes can make a lot of bad things 00:14:04.59\00:14:07.26 that damage our bodies too, it can cause mutations 00:14:07.29\00:14:10.27 which can cause... predisposes to all sorts of 00:14:10.31\00:14:13.19 bad medical conditions... so, as she realized that 00:14:13.23\00:14:16.21 modern medicine didn't fix things... 00:14:16.24\00:14:18.38 but getting back to the way God made her... in the beginning 00:14:18.41\00:14:21.59 could get her off these medications, 00:14:21.62\00:14:23.58 the whole world came alive to her... 00:14:23.62\00:14:25.51 and then when she realized that she could turn it over 00:14:25.54\00:14:28.21 to God and He would love her, and He would nurture her, 00:14:28.24\00:14:30.88 because she was made to have a relationship 00:14:30.91\00:14:32.82 with her creator and He was designed 00:14:32.85\00:14:34.69 to help her learn the truth, that sets her free... 00:14:34.72\00:14:37.36 from all of these medical conditions, 00:14:37.40\00:14:39.28 she became a new woman literally... 00:14:39.31\00:14:41.52 That's a great story... you know there's such an 00:14:41.56\00:14:45.33 emphasis on fashion... and these high heels 00:14:45.37\00:14:48.42 can do so much damage... to women 00:14:48.46\00:14:51.65 without us really realizing the kind of damage... 00:14:51.69\00:14:54.31 that it can do... it set off a whole cascade 00:14:54.34\00:14:56.93 of issues... with this young lady... 00:14:56.97\00:14:59.78 Yeah... So, once a patient finds out 00:14:59.82\00:15:02.56 that there is hope for them, that there is 00:15:02.60\00:15:06.18 another way... that includes wellness... 00:15:06.21\00:15:09.72 it would seem to me... that it would make such a 00:15:09.75\00:15:12.89 difference to know that... I don't have to be sick 00:15:12.92\00:15:16.02 all the time... I don't have to have 00:15:16.06\00:15:18.04 these conditions... if I follow Biblical principles 00:15:18.08\00:15:21.78 Yeah, that's so important to let people know... 00:15:21.82\00:15:25.26 you know modern medicine does not necessarily 00:15:25.29\00:15:27.84 teach this all the time, many times, I tell people that 00:15:27.88\00:15:31.86 as a cardiologist... a lot of times, 00:15:31.89\00:15:34.82 I just treat the symptoms I manage risks... 00:15:34.86\00:15:37.86 that's what I do in the office... 00:15:37.90\00:15:39.64 but if they don't want me to do these things... 00:15:39.67\00:15:42.17 here is the plan... 00:15:42.21\00:15:43.30 and you can get back to a very healthy life... 00:15:43.34\00:15:45.83 now, not everyone is going to be perfect... 00:15:45.86\00:15:47.41 because we do have genetic disease, 00:15:47.44\00:15:49.58 but as we get back to God's plan... 00:15:49.62\00:15:51.87 He can heal us now and if He doesn't heal us now... 00:15:51.91\00:15:55.14 He can heal us eternally... and that's what we want 00:15:55.18\00:15:57.34 everyone... all your listeners to know today 00:15:57.37\00:15:59.53 that you can be healed eternally by plugging into this 00:15:59.56\00:16:02.91 relationship that we were designed to have 00:16:02.94\00:16:05.03 with our creator... Absolutely... absolutely... 00:16:05.07\00:16:08.92 plugging in... that is such an important 00:16:08.95\00:16:12.04 concept... we plug in because 00:16:12.07\00:16:13.52 He is our power source... Exactly... 00:16:13.55\00:16:15.56 He is the source of our power, what about hypercholesterolemia 00:16:15.59\00:16:21.23 what about people who have high cholesterol 00:16:21.27\00:16:23.22 that need to have bypass operations 00:16:23.25\00:16:28.26 and all of that... what would you suggest 00:16:28.30\00:16:30.67 to them... to do naturally to A. perhaps dissolve the plaque 00:16:30.70\00:16:35.44 or to stop the plaque... what would you recommend 00:16:35.48\00:16:38.89 to them? I get that everyday, Yvonne, 00:16:38.92\00:16:41.41 because we do bypasses and I tell the people... 00:16:41.45\00:16:44.11 I say the Bypasses just help your symptoms... 00:16:44.15\00:16:46.84 they do not take away the problems 00:16:46.87\00:16:49.01 but I say, the first place I start... 00:16:49.04\00:16:51.14 is in a relationship with the Heavenly Father... 00:16:51.18\00:16:54.17 because in that relationship, they find peace 00:16:54.20\00:16:56.80 which turns down their stress chemistry... 00:16:56.83\00:16:59.36 it helps change their brains, they can learn what the truth is 00:16:59.40\00:17:02.85 and it's hard to find truth in this well-marketed world... 00:17:02.89\00:17:06.31 and I'm glad you're doing programs that help 00:17:06.34\00:17:08.20 bring truth to people, another thing that it helps them 00:17:08.23\00:17:11.71 when they start on this relationship is... 00:17:11.74\00:17:13.48 it gives them the power to make changes 00:17:13.51\00:17:15.18 that might be hard and some of these changes, 00:17:15.22\00:17:17.61 if you've had blockages in the arteries... 00:17:17.65\00:17:19.97 is... is try not to eat things that have lots of cholesterol 00:17:20.00\00:17:23.40 in them... try to eat healthy things 00:17:23.44\00:17:25.43 like lots of fruits and vegetables and nuts and grains, 00:17:25.46\00:17:28.86 and eat less of the bad stuff 00:17:28.89\00:17:30.87 hopefully... none if possible... and I tell people... 00:17:30.90\00:17:33.78 just eat enough of the bad stuff just to make you happy, 00:17:33.81\00:17:36.65 because if you're not happy inside... 00:17:36.69\00:17:39.26 that chemistry that comes from being a grumpy person 00:17:39.29\00:17:42.63 that's bad for you too... so it's about balance... 00:17:42.67\00:17:45.97 so I start people in that relationship 00:17:46.01\00:17:48.16 and then I say, "Well, let's talk about 00:17:48.19\00:17:50.11 what would be the next thing... well, let's drink enough water 00:17:50.14\00:17:52.82 everyday... since 70 percent of your body is water 00:17:52.86\00:17:55.07 then you won't eat as much of the bad stuff... 00:17:55.11\00:17:57.60 let's try to focus on not eating big at night, 00:17:57.64\00:18:00.10 because that big meal at night... 00:18:00.13\00:18:01.76 is when we store a lot of that cholesterol 00:18:01.79\00:18:04.76 in our body... try to eat 4 to 5 fresh fruits 00:18:04.79\00:18:07.69 and vegetables a day... then if that's going good, 00:18:07.72\00:18:10.27 get on a Movement Program... where you can walk 00:18:10.30\00:18:12.57 you know, maybe start... one minute, five minutes, 00:18:12.61\00:18:14.84 build up to 45 minutes a day of exercise... 00:18:14.88\00:18:18.81 and then if that goes good, continue to follow God's leading 00:18:18.85\00:18:22.82 and work on your relationship with each other 00:18:22.86\00:18:26.29 being happy... that helps your chemistry... 00:18:26.33\00:18:29.12 listen to good music, all of these things 00:18:29.15\00:18:31.16 can help lower the stress which will bring down 00:18:31.19\00:18:33.67 our cholesterol levels... that is great... 00:18:33.71\00:18:36.39 that is great... plugging in... 00:18:36.42\00:18:39.30 to the source... 00:18:39.33\00:18:41.36 and developing that relationship with Jesus Christ 00:18:41.40\00:18:44.30 to help us make lifestyle choices that are 00:18:44.34\00:18:47.01 healthier... you know, you said something, 00:18:47.04\00:18:49.65 and again... it's so true that it is difficult for some people 00:18:49.68\00:18:54.14 to make changes... in their diets, 00:18:54.18\00:18:56.53 and in their lifestyle, I've had a patient in Dallas 00:18:56.57\00:18:59.46 that... I was... she had... 00:18:59.49\00:19:02.13 breast cancer... 00:19:02.16\00:19:03.24 and I was telling her some natural things to do 00:19:03.27\00:19:06.85 and some changes in the diet, and she began to cry 00:19:06.89\00:19:10.43 because she said, "I don't want to... 00:19:10.46\00:19:12.18 I really don't like those things I don't want to change... " 00:19:12.21\00:19:15.45 and we need... if you continue to do 00:19:15.48\00:19:18.71 the same things... those are the things that 00:19:18.75\00:19:21.66 triggered the disease process in the first place... 00:19:21.70\00:19:25.13 so you have to make some changes and God will help you 00:19:25.16\00:19:28.56 to do that... And you know, Yvonne, 00:19:28.60\00:19:31.08 one thing that I found as I tried to meet people 00:19:31.11\00:19:33.82 where they're at... we try to love them 00:19:33.86\00:19:36.02 and not judge them... and I just pick one thing 00:19:36.06\00:19:38.70 and I say, "Just stick with it for one month... 00:19:38.73\00:19:41.34 and with God helping you I guarantee you 00:19:41.37\00:19:43.94 when you come back next month, you'll have something positive" 00:19:43.98\00:19:46.83 and then when they see how God has led them 00:19:46.86\00:19:49.03 on that one thing... we start on thing Number 2, 00:19:49.06\00:19:51.40 Ah... remember... 00:19:51.43\00:19:52.58 Rome wasn't built in a day... and remember 00:19:52.61\00:19:55.15 the chemistry that comes from 00:19:55.18\00:19:56.68 not feeling like you can do it, 00:19:56.71\00:19:58.14 or being discouraged or stressed that chemistry is just as bad 00:19:58.18\00:20:02.21 as almost anything else... so we got to encourage people 00:20:02.24\00:20:05.60 and love them... and try not to overwhelm them 00:20:05.64\00:20:07.92 as we move along this path, to wellness and health... 00:20:07.96\00:20:11.04 Yes, how good... to give them one thing 00:20:11.07\00:20:14.02 at a time... to do which gives them 00:20:14.05\00:20:16.77 a sense of accomplishment, because they've been able 00:20:16.81\00:20:19.49 to do that one thing... and then they can add... 00:20:19.52\00:20:22.53 another modification so that's a great idea... 00:20:22.57\00:20:26.19 Another thing is... it's about relationships too 00:20:26.22\00:20:29.18 you know... we were designed to be with each other 00:20:29.21\00:20:32.13 and encourage and love each other 00:20:32.17\00:20:33.66 and all be healers for each other 00:20:33.70\00:20:35.16 Yes... so when we embark 00:20:35.19\00:20:36.52 on these journeys, you know, not only do we want God's help 00:20:36.55\00:20:39.47 but get other people's help... get people praying for you, 00:20:39.50\00:20:42.38 helping you, encouraging you, praising you, 00:20:42.41\00:20:45.16 learn as much as you can about being healthy 00:20:45.20\00:20:47.87 Absolutely... absolutely... what about patients that have 00:20:47.91\00:20:53.44 congestive heart failure, what would you recommend 00:20:53.48\00:20:58.05 for them? Yeah, well you know all of these 00:20:58.09\00:21:00.90 principles luckily that work for High blood pressure 00:21:00.93\00:21:03.68 and high Cholesterol... also help for heart failure... 00:21:03.72\00:21:06.39 but when I deal with someone with heart failure... 00:21:06.43\00:21:09.07 that's when the heart's not doing it's job... 00:21:09.10\00:21:11.06 first again you have to ask... 00:21:11.09\00:21:12.87 "Why is the heart not doing it's job?" 00:21:12.90\00:21:14.97 Is the thyroid overactive? 00:21:15.01\00:21:17.90 Is the heart weak? Is there a bad valve? 00:21:17.93\00:21:19.95 sometimes if it's something 00:21:19.99\00:21:21.40 like a bad valve... that could be repaired... 00:21:21.43\00:21:23.46 if it's something more complicated 00:21:23.50\00:21:25.90 like a chronically ill heart... then things like exercise 00:21:25.93\00:21:29.58 eating a healthy diet, being happy, 00:21:29.61\00:21:32.22 keeping the blood pressure good, 00:21:32.25\00:21:34.07 and here's one... getting enough rest... 00:21:34.10\00:21:36.49 I had a stockbroker from New York City 00:21:36.53\00:21:39.05 that came to me recently... he had been 00:21:39.08\00:21:41.53 to see doctors all over the United States... 00:21:41.57\00:21:44.62 on all the right medicines, he already had 00:21:44.66\00:21:47.65 two Bypass surgeries... he's on all the perfect 00:21:47.68\00:21:50.32 medicines... all the dosages had been 00:21:50.35\00:21:52.54 titrated perfectly... I asked him, 00:21:52.58\00:21:54.69 I started going through God's certain plan for him... 00:21:54.73\00:21:58.24 and found out that he didn't rest at night... 00:21:58.28\00:22:00.23 he stayed up to 11:30 every night... 00:22:00.27\00:22:03.18 he worked till 9 or 10 cell phones, iPads, e-mails, 00:22:03.21\00:22:07.78 you name it... just by starting to rest 00:22:07.81\00:22:10.88 at night... his blood pressure came down 00:22:10.91\00:22:13.91 he started having less angina, his cholesterol came down, 00:22:13.94\00:22:18.00 his inflammation in his body just came down... 00:22:18.04\00:22:20.63 just by keeping a nightly rest... 00:22:20.66\00:22:23.01 well the next thing I'm going to move him to... 00:22:23.04\00:22:25.64 is a weekly rest... and can you imagine how his 00:22:25.68\00:22:28.24 chemistries then continued to improve... 00:22:28.28\00:22:30.62 I love it... so, with your patients, 00:22:30.66\00:22:32.94 you introduce that weekly rest, that Sabbath rest 00:22:32.97\00:22:35.98 to your patients? Yes, I do... 00:22:36.02\00:22:37.78 how do they usually respond, those who are not familiar with 00:22:37.81\00:22:41.83 the Sabbath rest... how do they usually respond? 00:22:41.86\00:22:44.20 One thing I like to do is... not everyone believes 00:22:44.23\00:22:46.49 in the Bible out there, Yvonne, and in all of our principles... 00:22:46.53\00:22:49.92 are on the Bible... so I talk to them first about 00:22:49.95\00:22:52.44 getting to know the Bible and see if you think it's true, 00:22:52.48\00:22:56.17 and I try to give them a lot of evidence 00:22:56.21\00:22:58.90 that the Bible is true... both historically... 00:22:58.93\00:23:02.08 we've proven it with modern medicine 00:23:02.12\00:23:04.71 archeologically, the prophecies, and then I say, 00:23:04.75\00:23:07.69 "Well, why don't you read the Bible yourself 00:23:07.73\00:23:10.63 and let God prove it to you... " 00:23:10.67\00:23:12.17 and I've not had anyone that didn't believe the 00:23:12.21\00:23:14.95 Bible after they honestly were searching 00:23:14.99\00:23:17.39 to see if it was true... 00:23:17.42\00:23:18.45 Well, that's so great... because what you're doing... 00:23:18.49\00:23:22.15 again is you're showing the relevance of the Bible 00:23:22.18\00:23:25.85 to modern times... I think so many people 00:23:25.88\00:23:27.77 think that the Bible is a book of antiquity... 00:23:27.81\00:23:30.52 and it's not relevant to anything in our lives now... 00:23:30.55\00:23:34.69 and those principles, the original diet, 00:23:34.73\00:23:37.51 in going back to God's original plan... 00:23:37.54\00:23:40.19 which is the "Ultimate Prescription" 00:23:40.22\00:23:42.80 if you will... it just makes all the difference 00:23:42.83\00:23:45.72 And when they get back to that 00:23:45.76\00:23:48.02 and realize that there's a God that loves them... 00:23:48.06\00:23:50.03 all of a sudden... truth starts coming alive 00:23:50.07\00:23:53.04 in their lives... they discover things 00:23:53.07\00:23:54.86 that they never heard before, that goes with their health 00:23:54.89\00:23:58.28 that goes with the relationship 00:23:58.31\00:24:00.07 and the healing actually starts at that place... 00:24:00.10\00:24:02.87 and when they understand these things... 00:24:02.90\00:24:05.19 understand that the Bible is true... 00:24:05.22\00:24:07.44 they start following the principles in the Bible, 00:24:07.47\00:24:10.52 they fall in love with the God of love... 00:24:10.55\00:24:12.60 they start having probably 00:24:12.64\00:24:14.04 the greatest healing force in the universe... 00:24:14.07\00:24:16.07 and that's love in their life, Yes... 00:24:16.11\00:24:17.57 God is love, 00:24:17.60\00:24:18.87 and once you have love, that's a healing force 00:24:18.90\00:24:21.10 for your body too... when you love people... 00:24:21.13\00:24:23.48 you make endorphins... remember we were designed 00:24:23.51\00:24:25.89 to love each other, and people that don't love 00:24:25.93\00:24:28.35 are selfish... and that damages the body's 00:24:28.38\00:24:30.77 chemistry... so as they learn 00:24:30.81\00:24:32.77 all these things, their body becomes chemically 00:24:32.80\00:24:35.50 more like what God made them, and they... 00:24:35.53\00:24:37.62 get very excited... they get very happy... 00:24:37.65\00:24:39.67 eventually, they want to share this good news... 00:24:39.71\00:24:42.03 with other people... and it's all very... 00:24:42.07\00:24:44.05 really... it's very exciting when they realize 00:24:44.08\00:24:46.73 that their God wants to heal them... 00:24:46.77\00:24:48.50 not only physically... but also, emotionally as well. 00:24:48.53\00:24:52.98 Absolutely... you are one of those enthusiastic Docs... 00:24:53.01\00:24:57.42 I love that about you... because you're not 00:24:57.45\00:25:00.41 you're not just caught up into the day-to-day... 00:25:00.44\00:25:03.82 you actually seem to love what you're doing... 00:25:03.85\00:25:06.47 you have a passion for what you're doing... 00:25:06.50\00:25:09.05 Oh yeah, Yvonne, but I think we were all designed 00:25:09.08\00:25:12.07 to heal each other... we were designed 00:25:12.10\00:25:13.93 to love each other... and take care of the earth 00:25:13.96\00:25:16.36 which includes... each other... and help each other 00:25:16.39\00:25:18.75 to come into a relationship with God... 00:25:18.78\00:25:20.23 this is sort of evangelism, and as you talk to... 00:25:20.27\00:25:23.47 your people out there, just a simple thing 00:25:23.51\00:25:26.73 as saying a prayer... and ask God 00:25:26.77\00:25:28.59 to start a relationship with you... 00:25:28.62\00:25:30.37 that can be a start... of a healing relationship 00:25:30.40\00:25:32.98 that you can't really put... you can't really measure that... 00:25:33.01\00:25:36.44 and all the good it can do, and all the power 00:25:36.47\00:25:38.23 it can give a person... Absolutely... absolutely... 00:25:38.27\00:25:41.08 I don't know where our time is gone... 00:25:41.12\00:25:43.61 but we're ending this program 00:25:43.65\00:25:46.39 and you've just given us so much information. 00:25:46.43\00:25:49.10 Tell us... before we go... 00:25:49.13\00:25:51.38 what you're doing now... tell us about the Program 00:25:51.41\00:25:54.79 that you have... and the book... 00:25:54.82\00:25:56.28 and all of that... Yeah, well we have a ministry 00:25:56.31\00:25:58.67 called Heartwise Ministries and they can 00:25:58.70\00:26:01.08 plug into the website HeartwiseMinistries. org 00:26:01.12\00:26:04.59 we'd be happy to answer your questions... 00:26:04.63\00:26:06.51 we also have a weekly live Program... 00:26:06.67\00:26:09.53 that's going to be seen on 3ABN starting in January 00:26:09.57\00:26:12.62 where people can call in and ask their questions live... 00:26:12.65\00:26:15.86 we have another Program called "The Ultimate Prescription" 00:26:15.89\00:26:19.06 where we continue to teach these principles 00:26:19.09\00:26:21.64 so people continue to learn more about 00:26:21.67\00:26:23.76 taking care of their bodies, coming into a relationship 00:26:23.80\00:26:27.18 with the Creator, and letting the Holy Spirit 00:26:27.22\00:26:29.34 take each individual 00:26:29.38\00:26:30.59 to that unique place they need to be... 00:26:30.62\00:26:33.23 Thank you so much Dr. Marcum for today... 00:26:33.26\00:26:35.60 would you come back and share some of that 00:26:35.63\00:26:37.90 information with us? Absolutely, I will be happy to. 00:26:37.93\00:26:40.47 That will be Great... may God bless you 00:26:40.50\00:26:42.22 as you continue to serve Him 00:26:42.25\00:26:43.70 and help others to... toward health and wellness. 00:26:43.73\00:26:46.60 We know that Jesus is the Divine Physician 00:26:46.63\00:26:51.15 and that He, as our Creator, has put certain laws into place, 00:26:51.18\00:26:54.82 if we follow those laws of health, 00:26:54.86\00:26:57.19 we can be well... illness ensues when we disregard 00:26:57.22\00:27:01.09 those laws... a lack of nutrition, rest, 00:27:01.13\00:27:04.27 and a spirit of unforgiveness can lead to disease... 00:27:04.30\00:27:07.69 true health is found in an integration 00:27:07.72\00:27:11.33 of the physical, emotional, and spiritual aspects 00:27:11.36\00:27:14.89 of one's being... Jesus asked the man 00:27:14.93\00:27:17.81 by the Pool of Bethesda... 00:27:17.84\00:27:19.33 "Wilt thou be made whole, do you want to be well?" 00:27:19.36\00:27:23.14 Do you want to be well? 00:27:23.18\00:27:25.54 Well, if you do... then you'll make healthy choices 00:27:25.57\00:27:29.16 you'll plug into the Creator, you'll develop a relationship 00:27:29.20\00:27:32.76 with Him... you'll ask Him for the power 00:27:32.90\00:27:35.24 to make changes in your life, because it isn't easy... 00:27:35.28\00:27:38.56 as Dr. Marcum said... it's really not easy 00:27:38.59\00:27:41.24 to make these changes, but we can 00:27:41.27\00:27:43.69 through the power of the Holy Spirit... 00:27:43.72\00:27:46.48 and we can be made whole... 00:27:46.52\00:27:48.61 and we can be well... if we just follow 00:27:48.64\00:27:51.68 the laws of health... 00:27:51.71\00:27:53.53 Well, where did our time go? 00:27:53.59\00:27:56.58 We hope that you'll join us next time... 00:27:56.61\00:27:59.53 It just wouldn't be the same without you... 00:27:59.57\00:28:02.45