Stay tuned to meet a young man
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that is multi-talented and
has dedicated all of his gifts
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to Jesus Christ...
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My name is Yvonne
Lewis and you're watching
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Urban Report...
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Hello and welcome
to Urban Report...
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My guest, in the Studio
today, is Nwamiko Madden
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he's a Filmmaker, Actor, Singer,
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et cetera, et
cetera, et cetera...
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Welcome to Urban
Report Nwamiko...
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Thank you...
Thank you, Yvonne...
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We just praise the
Lord to have you here...
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It's a blessing to be here...
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You know it wasn't an
easy feat for you to come...
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No... Tell us what obstacles
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you met... just
trying to get here today?
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Yeah... it's still
not quite an easy feat
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because I'm just
trying to run on Holy Spirit
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and adrenalin right now...
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yeah... last night the
flight that I was supposed
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to catch was like...
missed... and then...
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I missed my connection
and then they lost my bag
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then I had to run
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one end of the airport
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to the other...
which is the biggest...
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and one of the
biggest airports in Chicago,
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and it was just crazy...
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so, and then my... my Rent-a-Car
they gave me the wrong
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Rent-a-Car... so
I had to leave it
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and come back...
and it was like...
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just...
interesting... so, I was like...
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there must be a
reason for me to come here...
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Exactly... that's
what I think, I think...
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the enemy was trying to block it
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because you must have
something to share with us
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that God wants you to
share, and the enemy wants
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to block that...
That's my prayer...
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that's my sincere prayer,
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that it's what God
wants to share... so...
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Yes... we're
glad that you made it
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and we're glad that you're here,
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and I really want our viewers
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to know... about
your background...
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tell us about...
what... what you do...
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Okay... well I can go back to...
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just about...
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when I was a
twinkle in my mom's eye...
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because it's part of who I am...
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my mother... when she
was pregnant with me...
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she didn't tell me
this until... like about...
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couple of years ago... Okay...
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but when she was
pregnant with me...
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she dedicated me
to God in her womb...
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Hmmm... and she was
very, very convicted
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she's like... I'm having
a son, she's just like...
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for some reason...
she was very convicted
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about this... and
then she started praying...
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and then she
dedicated me to God...
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in the womb... right...
like... kind of like Samuel
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sort of... you
know... Yeah... yeah...
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but the strange
thing was... was that...
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Ellen White... she
talks about how children...
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a lot of times...
show the disposition
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of the parents
during the pregnancy...
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the emotions of the mother,
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so, from a very young age,
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I was always
convicted about God,
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I had to be serious about God...
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you know... and I was just like
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"Yeah, if I mess up with God...
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things are going
to be really bad... "
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you know... Ah...
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so that was always kind of...
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that's kind of
where the spring board
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of my spiritual walk came from.
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So, you feel that...
from the beginning...
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you just kind of had a
unique perception of God
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a unique
relationship with God...
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Yeah... it's interesting
just... I should say...
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a sense of His
presence... Hmmm...
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but you know... there's
a text in Corinthians...
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and it says that...
"For I think God has set us
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apostles last... for we are
made a theater unto the world
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unto angels and unto men... "
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Right? Yeah...
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and it's really interesting
because the idea that
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the whole
universe is watching us,
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watching this world... Yes...
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is kind of what
was... in a small way...
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impressed upon me...
almost like your life is a movie
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Yes... and... in
a way... it is...
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most people don't
think of it like that...
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as you... you as an
individual, you're raised...
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and everybody is watching
you, your guardian angel...
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God... the
angels... unfallen worlds...
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they're watching you...
and so, I always had that sense
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from a young age... like...
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"I'm being watched by God,
so, you got to be careful. "
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you know... Yes... yes... yes...
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so, as a young
boy... you just felt this
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close
relationship with the Lord,
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when did you find out
that you could sing...
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because our viewers are
going to have an opportunity
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to hear you
sing on "Magnify Him"
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in an upcoming
season... so, tell us...
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when did you know
that you could sing?
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Well, I didn't
know I could sing...
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I just like to
make a "Joyful noise"
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as I would call it at first...
but what happened was...
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at a young age...
we would, sometimes,
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get really bored...
Friday nights... and we'd have
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like...
"Seventh-day Adventist Idol"
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and my mom would be the judge...
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not my mom... my
grandmother... rather...
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she would be the judge
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she was a captive audience...
she couldn't go anywhere
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on Friday nights...
and so she was there...
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and we... us
cousins would get together
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and have singing
competitions on Friday night...
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to keep ourselves occupied...
and I wouldn't sing too great,
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I would just kind of croak...
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you know what I mean...
and then my different cousins
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would all make fun
of me... they're like...
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"Ah... Nwamiko... you
singing really bad... "
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I'd be like... "Oh... why
are you making fun of me... "
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Were they making fun of you?
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They were making fun
of me... right... yeah...
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so, that's what happened...
and they would do the same thing
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at Church as well... right...
like we would draw drawings...
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because we're sitting
in the pews, you know,
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not really listening
to the sermon as a kid...
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and then they'd be like...
"Look how bad Nwamiko draws"
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and I'd be like... "wah... "
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and so what I did
was... I withdrew...
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and I kind of...
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I recognized that my
gift was my imagination...
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so the Bible says... "as
a man thinks, so is he... "
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Yes... so I just said,
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"If I think hard
enough and practice...
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I can get good
at those things... "
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and so, I kind of
just pulled into myself
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and I said, "I'm going
to get good at singing... "
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and then I just
started to do that...
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and I said, "I'm going
to get good at drawing... "
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and then I just started
to do that... and then...
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But you know what...
obviously you had the instrument
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because there are
some people... who say,
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"I'm going to get
good at singing... "
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and no matter what they do,
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they can only
go... but so far...
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Yeah... but you... can sing...
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so the Lord's
given you the gift...
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All praise to Him... you know...
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it's... I really just think...
He's more... just given me
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a determined mind...
I don't consider myself
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the best singer in the
world... by... like... I mean,
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like I said... I still
consider it a joyful noise...
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you know what I mean...
but it's just a matter of...
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anything you can do
for God in this life...
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I say, "Do it... " Hmmm...
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because this is the
one... the talent of your time
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is what you've
been given now... Yes...
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so just "milk it to the
most. " Yes... yes... yes...
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so, how did you get
into... because our viewers
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don't know that you got into
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the Entertainment
Industry... Right...
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What did you do
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in the Entertainment Industry
and how did you get there?
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Okay, well, it kind of starts
again... when I was a child...
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because, as I said, I
was kind of convicted...
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felt that
conviction, and what I would do
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in School... I'd be like,
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"Hey, you guys are eating pork,
that's really bad for you...
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you could get sick... "
like I was just kind of...
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you know...
throwing it out at them...
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You celebrate Halloween?
That's the devil's holiday...
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you're going to... I
would just... kind of like...
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Like you were the
police... Yeah exactly...
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yes... spiritual
police... exactly...
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and I was like Pharisees...
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it was really
bad... it was really bad...
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so what happened was...
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I basically... just was like...
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"How come my method of
evangelism is not working?"
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"How come nobody
wants to join us?"
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They were being
rebuked all the time...
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Exactly... exactly... right...
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so I just
couldn't figure it out...
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and then... when other kids...
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when they would
ask for religion...
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they're like,
"Oh, I'm Hindu... "
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"I'm Baptist," "I'm
Buddhist," you know...
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"And what are you Nwamiko?"
"I'm Seventh-day Adventist"
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and they'd be like,
"What, every day a dentist...
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what... what is
that...?" I'm like,
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"No, Seventh-day Adventist"
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"What, Thursday's on
the Apprentice... what?"
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I'm like "Eeek... "
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and then that's when God hit...
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well, I don't know if
I can say it was God...
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but something hit
me with the idea...
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I was like... if
McDonald's can have Ronald...
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and Scientology
can have Tom Cruise
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why can't Seventh-day Adventism
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have a person that gets famous
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and represents
them to the world?
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So, everybody can just say...
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"Oh, that person is a
Seventh-day Adventist... "
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Okay... okay...
you understand...
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that was my logic and
I was just thinking...
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"Yeah, like a role model...
you know... or a mascot... "
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Hmmm... and so, I'm like...
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"That's what I'm going
to do... I'm going to be the
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Seventh-day
Adventist role model... "
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you know... and
from a young age...
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but I didn't know how
I was going to do it...
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I looked like... I'm from
Canada like a small town of...
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well, it's a big
city... but Montreal...
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and I just had no idea how
I was going to get into the
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that position...
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to represent
that... but I thought
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I wanted to be a
stunt man at first...
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and things just
kind of progressed...
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it was just the thought
in the back of my mind...
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but then I
recognized that I could
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I could like... do little
scenes in Elementary School
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and they would work
out... people would be like
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"Wow! that was the best
sleep I've ever seen... "
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you know what I mean,
just small things like that...
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and then I went to High School
and then I did a Drama Class
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and then... it was
just like... that's where
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things really flourished...
people were just like...
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"I want to be with your
group" every class... I mean...
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I would ace... and it just
went really, really well...
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so I was like... "Okay
Lord, what does this mean,
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is this what
I'm supposed to do?"
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and then somebody offered
me to join with an Agency
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an Acting Agency who...
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and their sister was a model...
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kind of... one of
these fly-by-night things
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it wasn't that good...
you had to pay money to get in
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Okay... Yes, yes... yes...
But the interesting thing was
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I didn't get any
calls for the first 8 months
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of being with
them right... but then
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about 8 months
later they were like...
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"We have an audition
for you... guess what...
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it's your first audition... "
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I'm like... "Yes, yes... "
and I'm like, "Okay, I'm ready"
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and they're like...
"Listen, it's on Friday night
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at 5:30 so you're
going to go there... "
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and I was just like...
"Okay, this is November
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so the sun sets
at about 4:30... "
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I was like, "No, no,
no, we need to reschedule"
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and they're like... "No,
you need to go to this audition"
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and I'm like...
"Lord" you know...
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Your first audition...
and it's on a Friday night...
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and it's... right away
hitting it to the test...
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you know what I mean...
and so I said to myself,
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and people
around me were like...
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"You're sure you
don't want to go?"
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"You're sure you
don't want to go... "
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you know what I
mean... and I'm like...
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Big temptation...
"Lord... " and then I just said,
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"If I take the first
step... it's a fall...
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I'll be falling the
rest of the way... "
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Come on... come
on now... so I said,
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so I said, "No, I went
into this for that reason... "
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that was the thing about me...
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I didn't really
care about fame...
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especially
considering my popularity
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in Elementary School... I
just really wanted to get the
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Church out there...
to be known... and so...
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I said... "I'm not going to go"
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and she's like,
"What, I don't understand
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da... da... da...
da... " she's like French
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you know what I
mean... and then... and then...
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and that was it...
and I didn't hear from her
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for another couple
of months, and then...
00:10:01.28\00:10:03.39
I said, "This is crazy...
00:10:03.42\00:10:04.96
there's got to be more
auditions than this... "
00:10:04.99\00:10:06.55
and so I call her
back... and I hear...
00:10:06.58\00:10:07.76
"This number is not in service"
00:10:07.80\00:10:09.52
I said, "What?" I
drive down there... yeah...
00:10:09.55\00:10:12.27
I drive down
there... and I see "For Rent"
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on the Front... and I'm like...
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"Oh my goodness...
" and so I'm like...
00:10:16.18\00:10:18.53
"There goes my dream...
" it was like... raining
00:10:18.56\00:10:20.03
so nobody could see
me cry... I was like,
00:10:20.06\00:10:22.01
"There goes the
acting thing" you know,
00:10:22.05\00:10:23.96
but... God had other plans...
00:10:23.99\00:10:25.77
I think... and this
is really interesting
00:10:25.80\00:10:27.53
because... I still...
this beginning part...
00:10:27.57\00:10:30.08
I don't know just
how Providence figured
00:10:30.12\00:10:32.56
into the whole thing
but... you can be the judge...
00:10:32.59\00:10:34.63
so, that same year...
00:10:34.67\00:10:36.64
at the end of the
year, I do a monologue
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in a High School Drama,
for the close of the year...
00:10:39.44\00:10:42.69
you know... and
at the end of it...
00:10:42.72\00:10:44.36
this tall high-pitch-voiced
guy comes up to me and he says,
00:10:44.39\00:10:46.82
"I like what you did... and
I'd like to represent you. "
00:10:46.85\00:10:49.24
I said, "What!" I was like,
00:10:49.28\00:10:50.76
"Wait... I don't work Saturdays"
00:10:50.79\00:10:52.82
and he's like, "Oh,
that's okay, I'm Jewish"
00:10:52.86\00:10:55.07
I was like, "Yes... " This
is like a perfect situation
00:10:55.10\00:10:58.37
Yes, yes... exactly... exactly,
not what I was expecting
00:10:58.41\00:11:01.08
but, I mean, it was just
like, things just worked out...
00:11:01.11\00:11:03.75
and it turns out that he
runs the biggest agency...
00:11:03.79\00:11:07.48
talent agency in Canada...
00:11:07.52\00:11:08.94
and they had
offices in Los Angeles...
00:11:08.97\00:11:10.39
so from the Monday after...
I was doing auditions...
00:11:10.43\00:11:13.27
yeah... and it was just like,
things just started picking up,
00:11:13.30\00:11:16.16
and I was like, "Lord,
" Now, auditions for what?
00:11:16.19\00:11:19.70
for singing...
for drama... for...?
00:11:19.73\00:11:22.92
No, for Television... Okay...
00:11:22.96\00:11:24.13
Yes... like Nickelodeon
shows... like youth shows...
00:11:24.17\00:11:28.04
anything that was
pretty much Network Television,
00:11:28.08\00:11:31.91
or sometimes... feature films...
00:11:31.95\00:11:33.72
because a lot of American
feature films come from Canada
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because of the tax
break and stuff like that...
00:11:36.25\00:11:37.37
So, Yeah, yeah, yeah
that's what it was...
00:11:37.41\00:11:41.28
and it was
really, really interesting
00:11:41.32\00:11:44.62
because it wasn't long
before I got my first role
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and it was with Vanessa
Williams and I don't know...
00:11:47.73\00:11:51.22
Oh, we have a picture of
you with Vanessa Williams
00:11:51.25\00:11:54.71
that we need to
put up... Yeah...
00:11:54.75\00:11:56.48
Tell us about meeting
her, what was that like?
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I mean, we didn't spend
much time... talking too much
00:11:58.59\00:12:01.39
because she was into her
character and stuff like that...
00:12:01.42\00:12:04.19
so it was just
like... that was my first role
00:12:04.22\00:12:06.56
where I play her
brother, and the Director...
00:12:06.60\00:12:08.87
it was my very, very first role,
and the Director was just like,
00:12:08.90\00:12:11.91
"Hey," he's like,
"Wow, you don't have to be
00:12:11.94\00:12:14.05
that good about it...
" you know what I mean...
00:12:14.08\00:12:16.17
because I was really
trying hard to impress them
00:12:16.20\00:12:18.21
and he's like, "It's okay...
tone it down a little bit... "
00:12:18.25\00:12:20.62
I said, "Oh... okay...
" Now what was this for?
00:12:20.66\00:12:22.58
It was a TV movie...
called "Diva's Christmas Carol"
00:12:22.62\00:12:29.24
Okay... I
shouldn't have said the name,
00:12:29.28\00:12:31.33
but... because it's
BC... before Christ...
00:12:31.36\00:12:34.26
Yes... yes... yes... In
a way... it was part of my
00:12:34.29\00:12:37.45
journey... so the
idea is that, we did it...
00:12:37.48\00:12:39.19
and it was a
Christmas movie and she plays a
00:12:39.23\00:12:40.90
"modern-day scrooge" basically
00:12:40.93\00:12:42.51
and I played her brother
so that was the beginning
00:12:42.54\00:12:46.61
of just the
couple of other things
00:12:46.65\00:12:48.66
that started to
pick up... And what are
00:12:48.69\00:12:50.70
some of the other
roles that you played?
00:12:50.74\00:12:52.68
Again, this is
not to glorify you,
00:12:52.71\00:12:56.95
this is actually to
lay the groundwork...
00:12:56.98\00:12:59.67
of your journey... Right...
00:12:59.70\00:13:01.32
because people need
to know how you got to
00:13:01.36\00:13:03.58
where you are now...
Exactly... amen... yeah...
00:13:03.61\00:13:06.14
we are just dirt with
God's breath... right...
00:13:06.17\00:13:08.44
That's right... God
does amazing things, but,
00:13:08.47\00:13:10.70
Yes... I think,
that was the first role
00:13:10.74\00:13:14.32
and then... things just
slowly started to pick up
00:13:14.36\00:13:18.36
where I got... I think I
did an Anthony Hopkins film...
00:13:18.39\00:13:21.72
"The Human Stain" I
did a small role in that...
00:13:21.76\00:13:24.00
and then... there were a couple
other small Canadian shows
00:13:24.04\00:13:29.53
here and there... and
then I got my first lead
00:13:29.56\00:13:33.07
in an international TV series,
and that was an interesting
00:13:33.10\00:13:37.23
story because... it's
the same deal, you know,
00:13:37.26\00:13:39.50
I went in... I
had a friend there...
00:13:39.54\00:13:41.16
who is another actor, and
he basically got the role,
00:13:41.20\00:13:44.09
they asked him to
stay back they're like,
00:13:44.13\00:13:46.14
usually after you do
an audition you leave
00:13:46.18\00:13:48.13
and then you wait to hear
but he was already staying back
00:13:48.16\00:13:50.24
like... they were
saying, "Just wait there... "
00:13:50.80\00:13:51.98
so it was almost
like a done deal...
00:13:52.01\00:13:53.69
but then I went in...
and then they're like,
00:13:53.73\00:13:56.11
"Hmmm... " they're like,
00:13:56.14\00:13:58.17
"Can you shave?" you
know, so you can look young,
00:13:58.21\00:14:00.27
and I was like... I
never shaved in my life,
00:14:00.31\00:14:02.07
Right... so the
very first time I shaved
00:14:02.10\00:14:03.79
you know, like you think
about a father and a son...
00:14:03.83\00:14:06.14
like, "this is how
you do it" I did that
00:14:06.17\00:14:08.93
in a Casting House...
you know what I mean...
00:14:08.96\00:14:11.32
I'm trying not to cut myself
00:14:11.35\00:14:12.52
so I can go back in
there and get this role,
00:14:12.56\00:14:14.01
and then... they were
like, "Okay, this is awesome"
00:14:14.05\00:14:16.28
and then... I told them
about the Saturday thing
00:14:16.32\00:14:18.51
and they're
like... "What? Saturdays...
00:14:18.55\00:14:20.29
are you Jewish... like,
what is this... da... da... da?
00:14:20.33\00:14:21.88
and they called France...
because it was a Canada-France
00:14:21.92\00:14:23.78
Co-production...
and then the said,
00:14:23.81\00:14:25.59
"You know what... we'll take you
00:14:25.62\00:14:27.33
and we'll change the
schedule to keep you... "
00:14:27.36\00:14:30.04
and I was like,
Amen... can I get an Amen...
00:14:30.08\00:14:32.72
but I was like... at that time,
00:14:32.76\00:14:34.56
it was only me in the
room, you know what I mean...
00:14:34.60\00:14:36.34
because nobody else was
Adventist... you know...
00:14:36.38\00:14:37.90
Yeah, yeah... So
the Lord just started to
00:14:37.94\00:14:39.29
work things out
where I was just like...
00:14:39.33\00:14:40.65
I started to see that my plan
for blossoming in this direction
00:14:40.68\00:14:45.65
was actually working...
and then I got another role
00:14:45.68\00:14:48.40
in between the two seasons...
then we had a second season,
00:14:48.44\00:14:50.52
things were starting
to expand and build up...
00:14:50.55\00:14:52.43
and then there was... and
I became a vegetarian in the
00:14:52.46\00:14:56.43
2nd season... I was
like, "I have to get back"
00:14:56.46\00:14:58.40
I was little bit
Pharisaical-minded right...
00:14:58.43\00:15:00.37
I was like... "I
have to get closer to God"
00:15:00.41\00:15:02.28
because I'm making all this
money and da... da... da... da
00:15:02.31\00:15:04.18
I'm being really personal
and really open with the...
00:15:04.21\00:15:06.80
No, we want it... no,
we want the transparency
00:15:06.84\00:15:09.66
because this again...
this is your journey...
00:15:09.69\00:15:12.47
Right... because
we have to get to
00:15:12.51\00:15:13.87
"Certain Sound" and
how did you get there?
00:15:13.91\00:15:16.30
Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, so
Viewer Discretion is advised,
00:15:16.33\00:15:19.96
or Spiritual
Discretion is advised...
00:15:20.00\00:15:21.52
B.C. anything that
happens B.C. is just that...
00:15:21.56\00:15:25.61
Before Christ... so go ahead...
00:15:25.64\00:15:27.33
Okay... good... so...
yeah... got this other role
00:15:27.36\00:15:29.85
in between the two seasons...
they asked for a second season
00:15:29.89\00:15:32.10
and I was just
feeling super inspired...
00:15:32.13\00:15:33.88
and at the same time,
I felt slightly like the
00:15:33.92\00:15:37.82
religious... the
young religious ruler...
00:15:37.86\00:15:40.41
who came to Christ... How so?
00:15:40.45\00:15:41.64
I felt like things
were going so good...
00:15:41.67\00:15:44.54
that something
was wrong... Ahhhhh...
00:15:44.58\00:15:47.42
I believed the truth fully...
00:15:47.45\00:15:49.45
but then I was making
ridiculous amounts of money
00:15:49.48\00:15:53.40
and then... I felt
kind of... you know...
00:15:53.44\00:15:55.60
distant from
people in the Church
00:15:55.63\00:15:57.00
because... it's weird...
and the devil was, I think,
00:15:57.04\00:15:58.72
trying to play
with my mind on this
00:15:58.76\00:15:59.82
because sometimes
you wake up to go to Set
00:15:59.86\00:16:01.31
and in the
morning... people wake up
00:16:01.34\00:16:03.03
and give you a
hug... you know what I mean?
00:16:03.07\00:16:05.44
and they're like,
"Hey, what's up Nwamiko... "
00:16:05.48\00:16:07.42
I'm like... "I'm doing
good... da... da... da... "
00:16:07.46\00:16:09.07
you know 5
o'clock in the morning...
00:16:09.10\00:16:10.17
and we eat breakfast...
and then you go to Church, and
00:16:10.37\00:16:12.16
you hear in a gruff
voice, "Happy Sabbath"
00:16:12.19\00:16:14.71
do you know what I
mean? and the contrast...
00:16:14.74\00:16:17.19
just kind of... was
like, "Lord, why?" you know...
00:16:17.22\00:16:20.74
You weren't seeing any joy...
00:16:20.78\00:16:21.82
Yeah... you know,
and so, I just saw that
00:16:21.85\00:16:24.07
and I was like...
"There's something with that...
00:16:24.11\00:16:26.99
we need to work on that...
" so, what happened was...
00:16:27.02\00:16:29.87
I was just
feeling super convicted
00:16:29.90\00:16:31.37
and I did this Week of Prayer,
00:16:31.40\00:16:32.80
and what had happened
was I was getting ready
00:16:32.84\00:16:34.73
to move to Los Angeles...
right and for this thing called
00:16:34.77\00:16:37.91
Pilot Season... where at
the beginning of the year
00:16:37.94\00:16:39.93
they have a whole
bunch of movies...
00:16:39.97\00:16:41.05
and there was the Vice
President of Casting from Fox
00:16:41.09\00:16:42.91
and he's like, "I want
you to come down Nwamiko... "
00:16:42.95\00:16:44.58
he interviewed
with me in Montreal...
00:16:44.62\00:16:45.91
my agent is like... there
are three people on his wall,
00:16:45.94\00:16:48.51
there was this... blond
girl, there's this Latino guy
00:16:48.54\00:16:50.75
and then there's you...
he wants to get you working
00:16:50.79\00:16:52.96
Wow... but in
the midst of that...
00:16:53.00\00:16:55.32
God says, "You're not
going to Los Angeles... "
00:16:55.36\00:16:58.25
and I didn't hear a
voice, but I felt the voice...
00:16:58.29\00:17:01.14
I was like...
"What do you mean?"
00:17:01.18\00:17:02.84
Yeah... yeah... it's
like, this is my plan,
00:17:02.88\00:17:05.56
this is my opportunity...
Exactly... exactly... I'm like
00:17:05.59\00:17:07.69
Famous Adventist... you
know... like the Plan...
00:17:07.73\00:17:09.94
My plan... yeah,
exactly... exactly...
00:17:09.98\00:17:12.56
"My Plan" right? Hmmm... hmmm...
00:17:12.60\00:17:13.91
so, I'm like, "Lord, how
is this going to work out?"
00:17:14.40\00:17:15.45
and then He's just
like... "You're not going... "
00:17:15.48\00:17:16.75
and then I tried
by asking for signs...
00:17:16.79\00:17:18.39
and He's was just
like... not giving them to me,
00:17:18.43\00:17:20.17
I felt like He was
just kind of like...
00:17:20.20\00:17:21.63
"I already told you what to
do" kind of thing, you know,
00:17:21.66\00:17:24.58
and so, I was just like,
00:17:24.62\00:17:27.13
"Okay... " I got two
auditions from Los Angeles
00:17:27.17\00:17:28.96
and they're like,
swearing and drinking
00:17:28.99\00:17:30.37
and stuff like
that that I didn't feel
00:17:30.41\00:17:31.72
too comfortable
with... because I always said,
00:17:31.75\00:17:33.10
I want to be able to do
things my children can watch...
00:17:33.14\00:17:34.96
Yes... Right, and
then, those things
00:17:34.99\00:17:37.05
weren't that... and so I
said, "I'm not going to go... "
00:17:37.08\00:17:38.66
Would you believe
it... that 10 days later...
00:17:38.70\00:17:41.88
after I decided not to
go... I get a phone call...
00:17:41.91\00:17:43.72
and it's my buddy,
00:17:43.75\00:17:45.09
from two years ago,
00:17:45.13\00:17:46.40
that I hadn't
spoken to in a long time,
00:17:46.44\00:17:47.85
he said, "Nwamiko,
we need to talk... "
00:17:47.88\00:17:49.26
and I'm like, "Sure,
talk... " and he's like...
00:17:49.35\00:17:50.78
"No, no, no... I need
to come in your basement,
00:17:50.81\00:17:52.21
and we need to
talk, one-on-one... "
00:17:52.25\00:17:53.79
Okay...
00:17:53.82\00:17:56.77
imagine a person
you haven't spoken to
00:17:56.81\00:17:58.12
in a long time...
just calling you up...
00:17:58.16\00:17:59.41
out of the blue like
that... or... out of the blue...
00:17:59.44\00:18:01.71
Yeah... comes into my basement,
00:18:01.74\00:18:02.92
he's like, "Listen, Nwamiko,
you can't tell this to anybody"
00:18:02.96\00:18:06.72
I'm like, "Okay" he's like,
00:18:06.75\00:18:08.58
"Listen, I quit my construction
job... I went up North...
00:18:08.61\00:18:11.95
and I started
working on a plantation,
00:18:11.99\00:18:15.08
a marijuana
plantation... for three months,
00:18:15.11\00:18:17.70
I was going to make $50,000
growing marijuana for this guy,
00:18:17.73\00:18:21.84
and everything
was going excellent...
00:18:21.87\00:18:24.48
we were going to
make all this money...
00:18:24.51\00:18:26.82
the plants were taller
than you, we were about a week
00:18:26.85\00:18:29.11
from the harvest, right?
then I get up one morning...
00:18:29.14\00:18:32.38
and I'm waking up and
I'm just... kind of...
00:18:32.41\00:18:35.48
scratching my eyes and looking
outside to go check the plants
00:18:35.51\00:18:38.20
and then, all of a sudden,
it seems like the entire sky
00:18:38.24\00:18:42.38
had only one
cloud... and that one cloud...
00:18:42.42\00:18:45.85
was perfectly
formulated like an angel...
00:18:45.88\00:18:49.16
and it had a sword in it's hand,
and the head was slowly turning"
00:18:49.20\00:18:53.55
and he says, "as the
sun rose, you could see
00:18:53.59\00:18:55.23
more of the detail... the
abdominals, the cheek bones,
00:18:55.26\00:18:57.66
the
everything... on this angel...
00:18:57.70\00:18:58.91
and it was almost a
sign of judgment... "
00:18:58.95\00:19:00.66
and he's like, "What
in the world is this?"
00:19:00.69\00:19:02.42
Hmmm... so he runs back in
00:19:02.46\00:19:03.84
to get the two other
guys and he runs out...
00:19:03.87\00:19:05.79
and he's like... "Look
at this" like a painting...
00:19:05.83\00:19:07.60
you know what I
mean, Right... right...
00:19:07.63\00:19:09.45
and they're like,
"What's wrong with you...
00:19:09.48\00:19:11.26
what got into
you... " Were you smoking?
00:19:11.30\00:19:12.95
Exactly... "you've been
touching the boss' stuff!"
00:19:12.98\00:19:15.23
he's like, "No, I was not...
" and so, they didn't see it...
00:19:15.26\00:19:18.82
and that's part of the
reason why I would... sometimes
00:19:18.86\00:19:21.37
nickname him
Paul... my friend, right,
00:19:21.41\00:19:23.47
because you remember,
Paul, he had that experience
00:19:23.51\00:19:25.20
with two other guys...
and they didn't even see it...
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Yes... yes... yes...
so, what happens is...
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ten days later, they wake up
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sorry... a couple of
days after that incident...
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they hear the helicopter sound
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and it's the Canadian
version of the FBI, basically,
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the RCMP...
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they come down on the place...
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and the helicopter
lands, and they're like,
00:19:44.01\00:19:45.29
"Oh, my goodness...
" they start taking out
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their wallets... they
start running to and fro
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like headless
chickens almost, Yeah...
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running through the woods...
getting cut by the trees
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and like, trying to get a signal
to get a friend to pick them up,
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and then my friend escapes,
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and he asked me... he's like,
00:19:55.72\00:19:56.83
"Listen, Nwamiko, I just
have one question for you...
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I was going to
make all this money...
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I was going to go to Vegas
and I was going to 'play it up'
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why did God do this to
me... you were the most
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spiritual person... I
remember from a young age...
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why did God do this to me?"
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Now, was this guy... did
he have a spiritual past?
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No, not at all... he
just went to Elementary School
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like when I was in the
Pharisee-mode with me...
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that's pretty much
how I knew him, you know,
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and we went to
different High Schools...
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and this was after High
School, and so, he's just like
00:20:22.03\00:20:25.43
"Why did God do
this... " I'm like,
00:20:25.47\00:20:26.84
"Dude, the guy was
going to take that money
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and give it... to like...
" you know what I mean...
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"bad things"
Yeah... yeah... yeah...
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"and like the
marijuana too itself,
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probably it's for... children"
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and he's like, "I
don't understand... "
00:20:34.48\00:20:35.65
and I'm like, "Okay,
you need to understand...
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let's do Bible Studies,"
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so, for the
first time in my life
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I'd just go online and
get some Bible Studies...
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and I'd give him Bible Studies,
and he accepts the truth,
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he marries his girlfriend
and they become a couple
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officially a
couple, by marriage,
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Right... and then,
she's baptized as well
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and brings his whole
family into the truth...
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and then, he
becomes a soul-winner
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this guy starts soul-winning
a whole... I mean...
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I can't even get
into all of it...
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Yeah... but...
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yeah, because... go
ahead... go ahead...
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I'm like... this
is so interesting
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and we're down to
like the last few minutes,
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we haven't even
started... anything else...
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Oh... okay... So,
did you come back to the
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Lord then... or renew your
relationship with the Lord...
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through him...
through his ministry?
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No, at that point where
I knew I wasn't supposed
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to go to Los Angeles... Okay...
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to Hollywood...
because if I wasn't there...
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he couldn't have
gone... you understand...
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he wouldn't have
come to the truth,
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and so, right after that,
00:21:25.05\00:21:26.68
I said, "Okay, this is good...
00:21:26.71\00:21:28.28
I know what to do now...
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I need to stay... "
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and the Lord showed
me some other things...
00:21:30.89\00:21:31.99
about... I need to
leave the Industry entirely...
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you know... And
you were right there...
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Yeah... yeah... yeah... I
was about to move to Hollywood
00:21:37.76\00:21:39.73
Wow... and
basically what God did
00:21:39.77\00:21:42.88
is... "I want you to
tune out of the television...
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and I want you to
tune into Ellen Vision... "
00:21:45.04\00:21:47.29
and I was like, "Huh,
and He basically said,
00:21:47.32\00:21:49.30
"I want you to
start reading the things
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to use that imagination
that you have been given
00:21:51.29\00:21:53.04
as an actor... Yes...
00:21:53.07\00:21:54.12
but use it on the
things that God... "
00:21:54.16\00:21:55.68
because everybody
has an imagination
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Yes... right, but we just don't
00:21:57.24\00:21:58.88
recognize that the
things that are spiritual
00:21:58.91\00:22:01.86
are real... so, you
watch a movie, right,
00:22:01.89\00:22:04.56
Yeah... and if
you see a little kid,
00:22:04.59\00:22:05.68
he comes out of the
movie theater and he's like
00:22:05.71\00:22:06.98
chopping away... right...
00:22:07.01\00:22:08.38
that means, he has
just seen a karate movie,
00:22:08.42\00:22:09.92
Right? Right...
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if you see, I don't know,
00:22:11.23\00:22:13.06
Superman or something like that
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you see kids running around like
00:22:14.38\00:22:15.60
they want to fly... they
want to exist in that world
00:22:15.63\00:22:18.09
Yes... but when you read
00:22:18.13\00:22:19.81
The Great Controversy...
and you read about
00:22:19.84\00:22:22.26
fallen angels and
good angels and this battle
00:22:22.29\00:22:24.58
that's intergalactic
between good and evil...
00:22:24.62\00:22:26.88
and then you close that book...
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that story is
still real... Wow...
00:22:29.13\00:22:31.28
you've just been
awakened to the fact
00:22:31.31\00:22:32.63
that you're in that story...
00:22:32.67\00:22:33.71
and so, that's where
we got the inspiration...
00:22:33.75\00:22:37.09
to kind of start this
ministry, I say, "We" because
00:22:37.12\00:22:40.29
God and myself... to
move forward this ministry
00:22:40.32\00:22:43.45
in taking things
that are spiritual
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and especially present
truths for this time...
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and bringing
them out in a powerful
00:22:47.22\00:22:49.49
and identifiable
way... for the masses today...
00:22:49.52\00:22:53.57
so, we decided to
call the ministry...
00:22:53.60\00:22:55.90
"Certain Sound Media"
based on 1 Corinthians 14:8
00:22:55.93\00:22:59.03
which says, "If the trumpet give
00:22:59.06\00:23:00.88
an uncertain sound, who shall
prepare themselves for battle?"
00:23:00.92\00:23:02.85
Ah... Right?
00:23:02.88\00:23:04.03
Yes... so we
need a certain sound
00:23:04.07\00:23:05.58
because in music media...
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music, movies and
messages... actually...
00:23:08.63\00:23:11.95
Yes... those
are the three things
00:23:11.98\00:23:13.52
that we do in the Ministry...
00:23:13.55\00:23:15.02
and I wanted to make sure that
00:23:15.05\00:23:17.43
in those three things
00:23:17.47\00:23:18.57
they are uniquely Adventist,
they present a true message
00:23:18.60\00:23:20.96
that's
Biblical... and sometimes,
00:23:20.99\00:23:23.07
musicians will say,
"Oh, I did this album... but
00:23:23.10\00:23:25.20
I don't sing about the
Sabbath on the album... "
00:23:25.23\00:23:27.29
and I'm like,
"Why?" Hmmm... hmmm...
00:23:27.32\00:23:29.67
you should... if
you know the truth,
00:23:29.71\00:23:31.99
then you're withholding it...
that good thing from the rest
00:23:32.02\00:23:34.74
of the world... you
know, sometimes they think
00:23:34.78\00:23:36.22
it's a burden to
give people the truth,
00:23:36.26\00:23:38.58
but actually...
it's a blessing...
00:23:38.62\00:23:40.10
You want to cry
aloud and spare not...
00:23:40.14\00:23:41.55
That's it... to show
the better side of it...
00:23:41.59\00:23:44.88
so often... in Adventist
culture we're more into
00:23:44.92\00:23:48.14
the "don'ts" than the
pointing to something better
00:23:48.18\00:23:50.91
Absolutely... that is
the key, that is the key
00:23:50.94\00:23:54.07
because it's all
about the abundant life,
00:23:54.10\00:23:57.02
Exactly... so, it's not about
00:23:57.05\00:23:58.55
the dos and the don'ts...
it's about the relationship...
00:23:58.58\00:24:00.85
Exactly... God didn't
say to the woman at the well,
00:24:00.89\00:24:02.88
"Look how bad your water is... "
00:24:02.92\00:24:04.37
He's like, "Listen, let me
tell you about my water... "
00:24:04.40\00:24:07.17
Yes... You understand...
00:24:07.20\00:24:08.26
Yes... yes...
there's a contrast there...
00:24:08.29\00:24:10.45
Yes, that's it... that's it
they'll recognize it right away
00:24:10.49\00:24:13.05
and so... that's kind
of how we got into the idea
00:24:13.08\00:24:15.63
of making
Christian-centered films...
00:24:15.66\00:24:17.72
and the film that
we're working on right now...
00:24:17.75\00:24:19.06
is a film called
"The Five Stone Secret"
00:24:19.09\00:24:22.01
we just released it...
and the Lord has been blessing
00:24:22.05\00:24:23.75
we just won Best
Animation at a Film Festival...
00:24:23.79\00:24:27.28
yeah... you can see
the picture probably...
00:24:27.32\00:24:29.83
up there... it's
with me and my sister...
00:24:29.86\00:24:32.29
I had a twelve-year
reunion with my sister
00:24:32.32\00:24:34.71
that I hadn't
seen in twelve years...
00:24:34.75\00:24:36.00
and we went to the
Film Festival together...
00:24:36.04\00:24:38.41
and I had a chance
to explain Daniel 7...
00:24:38.45\00:24:40.19
so, maybe I could
share the trailer...
00:24:40.22\00:24:42.34
of what it looks like...
Yeah, let's take a look at it...
00:24:42.37\00:24:44.26
The Five Stone Secret
yes... The Five Stone Secret...
00:24:44.30\00:24:47.95
I want to see
that... I've got to see it...
00:25:47.28\00:25:50.13
it looks... it looks
like it's so compelling
00:25:50.17\00:25:52.70
Praise God... praise
God... Yes... yes... yes...
00:25:52.74\00:25:55.30
we wanted to compel
the eyes and the senses,
00:25:55.33\00:25:59.01
so that they'll get
close to what's presented
00:25:59.05\00:26:02.08
and then they'll see a
deeper truth beneath it...
00:26:02.11\00:26:05.11
because in the story
there's actually a...
00:26:05.15\00:26:07.72
I don't want to call
it, "A new light... "
00:26:07.75\00:26:10.29
but a deep
revelation... in the story
00:26:10.33\00:26:12.07
of David and
Goliath... which most people
00:26:12.10\00:26:13.88
just kind of gloss over,
we usually think the story
00:26:13.91\00:26:15.65
is just for children... Yes...
00:26:15.69\00:26:16.80
but there's
something deeper there...
00:26:16.84\00:26:18.12
All right... to
bring out on DVD...
00:26:18.16\00:26:19.67
Wonderful... and when do
you think it's going to be...
00:26:19.71\00:26:22.05
Oh... it's already
out... it's already out...
00:26:22.08\00:26:24.00
we're showing it
at Film Festivals
00:26:24.04\00:26:25.78
and you can get
it off the website...
00:26:25.81\00:26:27.48
and what is your
website? www. certainsound. org
00:26:27.52\00:26:32.10
certainsound. org
00:26:32.14\00:26:33.98
In this last
minute, what do you want
00:26:34.01\00:26:36.78
our viewers to know...
00:26:36.81\00:26:37.87
Okay, our big thing that
we're trying to do right now...
00:26:37.91\00:26:40.72
is... we're actually trying
to, you heard me use the word
00:26:40.76\00:26:43.54
Ellen Vision before... Yes...
00:26:43.58\00:26:44.80
we're trying to
produce a two-hour,
00:26:44.84\00:26:47.74
fully 3-D animated
00:26:47.78\00:26:48.97
feature film released in
00:26:49.00\00:26:50.42
theaters around the world
00:26:50.46\00:26:51.81
where it's going to be
Patriarchs and Prophets...
00:26:51.84\00:26:53.84
Desire of Ages...
and The Great Controversy
00:26:53.87\00:26:56.28
we have the entire
team ready to do this,
00:26:56.31\00:26:58.69
but we need prayers... Yes...
00:26:58.72\00:27:00.41
we need more prayers... Yes...
00:27:00.44\00:27:02.05
we need the Holy Spirit...
and we need investors...
00:27:02.09\00:27:04.34
Yes... so, I'm just asking
00:27:04.37\00:27:05.88
and soliciting
the people out there
00:27:05.91\00:27:08.81
in TV Land...
just to pray for us
00:27:08.85\00:27:11.37
because we are
close to doing this...
00:27:11.40\00:27:13.85
and the Lord has done
00:27:13.89\00:27:15.09
some amazing testimonies
00:27:15.12\00:27:16.26
which I don't have
time to get into already...
00:27:16.29\00:27:17.70
getting us close to there...
but we need those investors and
00:27:17.74\00:27:20.31
obviously the prayers...
so, as the Lord leads,
00:27:20.34\00:27:22.78
just pray for us so
that... that can be done...
00:27:22.82\00:27:25.48
Oh, thank you so much
Nwamiko for being with us,
00:27:25.52\00:27:27.73
we're so happy and
blessed to have you here...
00:27:27.77\00:27:31.28
The pleasure is mine...
00:27:31.31\00:27:32.51
Well, we've reached the
end of another Program...
00:27:32.85\00:27:36.00
you've heard Nwamiko's
burden, he has a burden
00:27:36.04\00:27:39.16
for getting the Word out...
in a new and refreshing way...
00:27:39.19\00:27:43.24
that's going to
reach multitudes of people
00:27:43.28\00:27:46.07
for Jesus Christ...
we have an obligation
00:27:46.10\00:27:48.82
to support that kind of
ministry so go to the website,
00:27:48.86\00:27:53.05
and help the Brother out...
00:27:53.08\00:27:54.89
Thanks for tuning
in... join us next time...
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the same, without you...
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