One of Gospel Music's most accomplished 00:00:01.06\00:00:03.40 singers and song writers is right here with us today... 00:00:03.43\00:00:06.56 Stay tuned to find out who it is... 00:00:06.60\00:00:08.66 My name is Yvonne Lewis and you're watching 00:00:08.70\00:00:11.39 Urban Report... 00:00:11.42\00:00:12.48 Hello and welcome to Urban Report... 00:00:34.34\00:00:36.73 My guest today is Babbie Mason 00:00:36.76\00:00:39.68 one of my all-time favorite singers and writers... 00:00:39.71\00:00:43.15 Welcome to Urban Report Babbie... 00:00:43.19\00:00:45.92 Thank you Yvonne, it's good to see you again 00:00:45.96\00:00:48.34 my friend... Oh, it's great to see you, 00:00:48.37\00:00:50.79 and it's great to hear you... when I hear you, I mean, 00:00:50.83\00:00:54.04 I'm just so blessed by your ministry... 00:00:54.07\00:00:56.43 Praise God... I am blessed... 00:00:56.46\00:00:59.52 Thank you... Thank you for taking 00:00:59.56\00:01:01.31 the time out to be with us today 00:01:01.34\00:01:03.02 you know, you have had such an amazing career 00:01:03.06\00:01:06.91 in ministry... tell us a little bit about 00:01:06.94\00:01:10.72 your background... and then we're going to find out 00:01:10.76\00:01:12.72 more about the highlights of your ministry... 00:01:12.76\00:01:14.80 Where were you born? 00:01:14.84\00:01:15.88 I was born and raised in a little town, 00:01:15.91\00:01:20.29 about 70 miles east of Detroit, Michigan 00:01:20.32\00:01:24.63 in a little town called 00:01:24.66\00:01:26.31 Jackson, Michigan... 00:01:26.35\00:01:27.93 and I grew up... a daughter of a pastor, 00:01:27.97\00:01:30.66 and my mom and my dad served in one Church 00:01:30.70\00:01:33.33 for 40 years... my dad's first and only Pastorate... 00:01:33.36\00:01:37.61 there in that little town and it was there 00:01:37.65\00:01:40.44 at Lily Missionary Baptist Church 00:01:40.47\00:01:42.44 where I fell in love with gospel music 00:01:42.47\00:01:44.51 I fell in love with the Word of God, 00:01:44.55\00:01:46.52 I fell in love with Jesus, got it way deep down in my bones 00:01:46.55\00:01:49.72 and I believe that those were really the formative years 00:01:49.75\00:01:52.89 of the ministry that God has given me today. 00:01:52.92\00:01:54.48 Yes... so you are a PK-Pastor's Kid... 00:01:54.66\00:01:57.38 I'm a PK... I'm not a Preacher's Kid, 00:01:57.42\00:02:00.07 I'm a Pastor's Kid... Oh come on now... come on now... 00:02:00.11\00:02:03.75 I think that as a very young child, 00:02:03.79\00:02:06.19 I started playing the piano at my daddy's church... 00:02:06.23\00:02:08.61 got hired by the age of 9 years old... 00:02:08.65\00:02:11.24 Wow... 00:02:11.28\00:02:12.81 and started playing for all the Church Choirs... 00:02:12.84\00:02:14.69 all the Choir Rehearsals, all the responsibilities, 00:02:14.72\00:02:17.83 and Yvonne, I could only play in one key 00:02:17.86\00:02:20.38 because they sing everything by ear, you know, 00:02:20.41\00:02:23.17 there was no Printed Music... or no... 00:02:23.20\00:02:24.80 we had hymnals... but we didn't actually read the notes 00:02:24.84\00:02:28.13 we read the words, or we actually sang those 00:02:28.17\00:02:30.71 songs and hymns and spiritual songs, 00:02:30.75\00:02:33.10 when the deacons led the devotion service, 00:02:33.14\00:02:34.99 but I grew up playing when I first got started... 00:02:35.02\00:02:38.09 as a 9-year-old, 00:02:38.13\00:02:39.60 full-time Church pianist, I could only play in one key, 00:02:39.63\00:02:43.06 and that was the key of "C"... 00:02:43.09\00:02:45.59 No sharps or flats? No sharps... no flats... 00:02:45.63\00:02:50.07 which meant... they had to sing every song 00:02:50.11\00:02:54.52 in the key of "C"... and sometimes, Yvonne, 00:02:54.55\00:02:58.89 sometimes... it was too high, and sometimes it was too low, 00:02:58.92\00:03:02.55 and sometimes it was just plain bad... 00:03:02.59\00:03:05.27 but they had to sing that song in the key of "C"... 00:03:05.31\00:03:08.44 but you know what I've learned, Yvonne, 00:03:08.47\00:03:10.52 I've learned that God is faithful... 00:03:10.56\00:03:12.55 He is so faithful... and if we give Him what little bit... 00:03:12.58\00:03:16.91 it may seem like... so insignificant, 00:03:16.94\00:03:20.07 but if we give Him what little bit we have 00:03:20.11\00:03:23.04 in our hand... He blesses it... 00:03:23.07\00:03:25.68 He multiplies it... and He uses it 00:03:25.71\00:03:29.76 for the glorification of His Kingdom 00:03:29.79\00:03:32.12 and the encouragement 00:03:32.15\00:03:33.57 of the Body of Christ... Yes... 00:03:33.60\00:03:36.03 that's what He's done, and He's still doing... 00:03:36.06\00:03:37.90 in my life... Oh, that's beautiful... 00:03:37.93\00:03:40.16 that's beautiful... so, at 9 years old... 00:03:40.20\00:03:42.36 this... it's like... it's hard for me to wrap 00:03:42.39\00:03:44.65 my mind around this... at 9 years old... 00:03:44.68\00:03:47.28 you were already in music ministry... 00:03:47.32\00:03:49.67 Yes... which is... 00:03:49.70\00:03:51.26 God was grooming you 00:03:51.30\00:03:52.79 from a child... to do... what He put you 00:03:52.83\00:03:57.48 on this planet to do... Yes... 00:03:57.51\00:03:59.57 and that is incredible... one of the things 00:03:59.61\00:04:02.26 that's interesting to me about PKs is... 00:04:02.30\00:04:04.88 many times... they might stray or whatever... 00:04:04.91\00:04:09.35 because they have a... maybe a vicarious relationship 00:04:09.39\00:04:13.66 with the Lord, through their parents 00:04:13.70\00:04:16.03 and not their own... was that your experience 00:04:16.06\00:04:19.10 or did you ever stray or did you just kind of 00:04:19.13\00:04:22.14 stay focused on ministry... 00:04:22.17\00:04:25.02 You know Yvonne, I do have a story... 00:04:25.06\00:04:29.10 and I believe the Lord allowed me to get close enough 00:04:29.14\00:04:34.78 to the edge... and look over 00:04:34.81\00:04:37.62 but not see... 00:04:37.65\00:04:39.67 but not like... what I saw... 00:04:39.70\00:04:42.03 Ah... tell us a little bit about it Bab... 00:04:42.07\00:04:44.15 Well, I grew up during the Motown era 00:04:44.18\00:04:48.26 I am a product of the 60s and 70s... 00:04:48.29\00:04:52.30 and so, I grew up in an era where music was... 00:04:52.34\00:04:55.85 just... at... where "Motown" was at its height 00:04:55.89\00:04:59.29 all of that beautiful music 00:04:59.32\00:05:00.84 that came out of Detroit with the Supremes 00:05:00.88\00:05:03.16 and Martha Reeves and the Vandellas 00:05:03.19\00:05:05.44 and The Jackson 5... and the Temptations... 00:05:05.47\00:05:09.23 and Aretha... 00:05:09.26\00:05:11.05 she wasn't a Motown Artist 00:05:11.08\00:05:12.38 but she came out to Detroit and her music 00:05:12.41\00:05:14.68 was very influential 00:05:14.72\00:05:16.17 in my upbringing... 00:05:16.21\00:05:17.59 she was a Preacher's daughter, Yes... 00:05:17.63\00:05:19.69 she played the piano, she writes beautiful music 00:05:19.72\00:05:24.55 so I grew up singing all of Aretha's music 00:05:24.58\00:05:26.98 don't tell my daddy though, but... I did it... 00:05:27.01\00:05:31.13 I was listening to Motown music under my pillow... 00:05:31.16\00:05:35.16 you know... I have very strict parents... 00:05:35.19\00:05:36.39 and so, they didn't allow 00:05:36.43\00:05:38.78 you know... Rock 'n' roll 00:05:38.82\00:05:41.10 or R and B music played in our home, 00:05:41.14\00:05:42.83 but on my little Transistor Radio 00:05:42.87\00:05:45.54 I put it under my pillow at night... 00:05:45.57\00:05:48.18 and listened to the music coming out of CKLW out of Detroit... 00:05:48.21\00:05:51.96 Windsor, Ontario, Canada actually... 00:05:52.00\00:05:54.22 and listened to Motown music under my pillow at night... 00:05:54.25\00:05:56.87 Now were you singing at this point 00:05:56.90\00:05:59.01 or playing... primarily... were you singing primarily... 00:05:59.05\00:06:02.87 Both... Okay... okay... 00:06:02.90\00:06:05.72 but I was not only the pianist, at age nine... 00:06:05.76\00:06:09.40 I was not only the Pianist, I was the Choir Director, 00:06:09.44\00:06:12.32 and I could sing... so, I led a lot of songs, 00:06:12.36\00:06:16.20 I taught harmony... and, of course, you know, 00:06:16.24\00:06:19.02 this was very gradual... as the Lord 00:06:19.06\00:06:21.17 allowed my gifts and talents to be nurtured and 00:06:21.21\00:06:24.93 all of this... not only practicing 00:06:24.97\00:06:27.35 but application on a routine and regular basis 00:06:27.38\00:06:32.16 my gifts began to flourish... and the Church... 00:06:32.19\00:06:35.11 they were very patient with me, 00:06:35.14\00:06:37.16 they were very nurturing to me, 00:06:37.19\00:06:39.48 and it was really a wonderful place for my gifts 00:06:39.51\00:06:44.73 and talents to grow... so my mom and dad thought 00:06:44.76\00:06:49.95 that I would be a gospel singer, and my daddy said, 00:06:49.98\00:06:53.86 one day... I told my daddy... 00:06:53.90\00:06:55.24 I said, "Look, daddy, I think the Lord 00:06:55.28\00:06:56.63 is calling me into the full-time music ministry" 00:06:56.66\00:06:58.59 and he said, "Baby, you need a job... " 00:06:58.63\00:07:00.37 my daddy was one of those men that was all to all people, 00:07:00.40\00:07:08.24 he was the County Commissioner, he was a Pastor, 00:07:08.27\00:07:10.14 he was a Preacher, he was a Teacher, 00:07:10.17\00:07:11.76 he taught in the local Community College 00:07:11.80\00:07:13.41 Bible Study classes and things like that... 00:07:13.44\00:07:15.02 and so he was very influential, 00:07:15.06\00:07:17.00 he set me up with an interview with the 00:07:17.03\00:07:19.58 Superintendent of Schools 00:07:19.62\00:07:20.75 there in Jackson... and the next thing you know... 00:07:20.79\00:07:22.79 I was teaching School... but while I was in College, 00:07:22.83\00:07:26.10 I discovered the music of Danniebelle Hall... 00:07:26.13\00:07:29.90 and you and I know and remember Danniebelle 00:07:29.94\00:07:33.63 because we were involved in that Project 00:07:33.67\00:07:35.78 called "Sisters" years ago... 00:07:35.81\00:07:37.47 Yes... yes years ago we were... 00:07:37.50\00:07:39.13 with the part of that Project as a matter-of-fact... 00:07:39.16\00:07:42.14 I was able to record a duet with Danniebelle 00:07:42.18\00:07:45.48 that was on the Sisters' Project... it was called, 00:07:45.52\00:07:48.24 "Somebody pray... " Yes... 00:07:48.27\00:07:50.53 Yes... Yes... and Danniebelle was... 00:07:50.57\00:07:52.75 I know that the Lord... I know... that I know... 00:07:52.79\00:07:55.82 that I know... that I know... Yvonne... 00:07:55.86\00:07:57.57 that the Lord sent Danniebelle Hall into my life... 00:07:57.60\00:08:00.45 I discovered her music... 00:08:00.48\00:08:02.41 one day... I was in the registration line 00:08:02.45\00:08:04.19 at School... at Spring Arbor University 00:08:04.22\00:08:05.89 that's my alma mater there in southern Michigan... 00:08:05.93\00:08:08.40 not far from home... and I was in the registration 00:08:08.43\00:08:10.87 line and the School has a Radio Station 00:08:10.90\00:08:13.21 and they were selling some music back there... 00:08:13.25\00:08:15.50 they had a big Record Sale... and they had these bins and bins 00:08:15.53\00:08:18.69 of albums and the line was moving tediously slow 00:08:18.73\00:08:22.08 and so, I was just filing through these bins 00:08:22.12\00:08:25.77 of records... of albums... 00:08:25.80\00:08:27.44 and I discovered... 00:08:27.48\00:08:29.36 I saw this beautiful Black woman's face... 00:08:29.40\00:08:31.75 on the cover of this record, that was very unusual in the 70s 00:08:31.78\00:08:35.63 because to my knowledge, I hadn't seen very many 00:08:35.67\00:08:39.60 African American women 00:08:39.63\00:08:41.54 that sang solos... 00:08:41.57\00:08:43.41 now there were some that sang in groups... 00:08:43.44\00:08:45.38 Right... right... they were very popular 00:08:45.42\00:08:47.65 in the 60s and 70s... but it was a very 00:08:47.69\00:08:49.89 contemporary-looking album... 00:08:49.92\00:08:51.46 there was a woman who looked a lot like me... 00:08:51.50\00:08:54.02 it was a beautiful photograph and it was intriguing 00:08:54.06\00:08:58.45 and so, I picked it up... it was the music of 00:08:58.48\00:09:00.56 Danniebelle Hall... and so I bought the album 00:09:00.59\00:09:02.81 not even knowing who she was... at the time... 00:09:02.85\00:09:04.44 and I took the album home... and there was just 00:09:04.48\00:09:07.57 beautiful music... gorgeous lyrics... 00:09:07.61\00:09:10.04 refreshing contemporary sounds, and Danniebelle's music 00:09:10.07\00:09:13.85 literally saved my life... she gave me something to sing... 00:09:13.89\00:09:17.63 I imitated and emulated her music... 00:09:17.67\00:09:20.09 she plays the piano... she was really... God's answer 00:09:20.13\00:09:25.14 to Aretha Franklin... So, were you at a place where 00:09:25.17\00:09:29.79 you were kind of teetering 00:09:29.82\00:09:32.03 with going out into the world with your gifts 00:09:32.06\00:09:35.75 as opposed to using them for the Lord 00:09:35.78\00:09:37.69 were you at that place in your life... 00:09:37.72\00:09:40.07 when you picked up that Danniebelle's CD? 00:09:40.11\00:09:42.39 Yes... I was at a very critical place in my life, Yvonne, 00:09:42.42\00:09:46.41 because... in my heart... 00:09:46.44\00:09:48.38 I had accepted Christ 00:09:48.41\00:09:50.28 as my Savior by the age of eight-years-of-age 00:09:50.31\00:09:52.72 but my heart was truly divided... 00:09:52.75\00:09:55.96 I felt that the only way that I could really allow 00:09:56.00\00:09:58.95 my musical dreams to come true... 00:09:58.99\00:10:00.47 was to become a Motown Singer or to be an R and B Singer 00:10:00.50\00:10:04.70 and there are some people who are called to do that... 00:10:04.74\00:10:08.90 but the Lord... and I was singing 00:10:08.94\00:10:12.58 in bars and clubs, trying to make that happen, 00:10:12.61\00:10:15.13 trying to make that dream happen for me... 00:10:15.17\00:10:17.62 on Fridays and Saturday nights, I'd be in the local bar and club 00:10:17.65\00:10:21.44 singing secular music... and I'd met a friend 00:10:21.47\00:10:24.33 and he and I were like Roberta Flack and Donny Hathaway 00:10:24.37\00:10:27.00 we'd sing duets together... and I'd play the piano 00:10:27.04\00:10:29.67 and I'd sing Aretha songs, and Roberta Flack songs... 00:10:29.71\00:10:32.27 and Carole King songs and then on Sunday mornings 00:10:32.30\00:10:35.36 I'd be right there at my daddy's Church 00:10:35.40\00:10:37.80 leading the music... playing the piano 00:10:37.84\00:10:40.11 as a young College person, 00:10:40.14\00:10:41.76 and I tell you, Yvonne, 00:10:41.79\00:10:43.33 I would be so convicted... when I darkened the door 00:10:43.37\00:10:46.53 of a bar... 00:10:46.57\00:10:47.85 and then I'd be convicted again on a Sunday morning 00:10:47.89\00:10:50.21 when I'd go to Church... Hmmm... 00:10:50.24\00:10:52.31 Yeah... isn't that something... and the Lord showed me 00:10:52.34\00:10:54.51 my lifestyle... as I began to study the Word 00:10:54.54\00:10:56.91 and go to this Christian School, and sing in the groups 00:10:56.94\00:11:00.49 and choirs there on that Christian campus... 00:11:00.53\00:11:02.75 I got involved in a Christian Singing Group 00:11:02.79\00:11:04.95 there on campus... by this time... I'd discovered 00:11:04.98\00:11:07.93 the music of Danniebelle Hall, and the Lord showed me 00:11:07.96\00:11:10.87 my lifestyle... one day I was sitting at lunch 00:11:10.90\00:11:14.16 eating a cup of 00:11:14.20\00:11:16.15 piping hot soup... 00:11:16.19\00:11:18.07 it was about the fall of the year, 00:11:18.10\00:11:20.21 the air was chilled... 00:11:20.30\00:11:21.54 and this hot soup was feeling 00:11:21.58\00:11:24.46 very good going down... 00:11:24.50\00:11:25.79 but as the soup began to get lukewarm 00:11:25.82\00:11:27.75 over the course of the lunch hour... 00:11:27.79\00:11:29.68 the Lord showed me 00:11:29.72\00:11:30.82 that this was my life, and my lifestyle... 00:11:30.86\00:11:32.71 oil in the soup began to coagulate 00:11:32.74\00:11:34.98 it wasn't very tasty 00:11:35.01\00:11:36.16 it began to upset my stomach, and the Lord reminded me 00:11:36.20\00:11:38.98 from the book of the Revelation... 00:11:39.02\00:11:40.46 the 3rd Chapter and the 15th and 16th Verses... 00:11:40.50\00:11:43.67 "that you're lukewarm... you're neither hot nor cold 00:11:43.70\00:11:47.04 I wish you were one or the other, 00:11:47.07\00:11:48.72 but because you're lukewarm, 00:11:48.75\00:11:49.83 and neither hot nor cold... I'm about to spew you 00:11:49.86\00:11:52.35 out of my mouth... " Yes... 00:11:52.38\00:11:53.74 the Lord literally... sitting right there... 00:11:53.78\00:11:56.32 on that Christian College Campus, 00:11:56.35\00:11:57.76 gave me an ultimatum... "Serve me... get right... " 00:11:57.79\00:12:00.78 I heard somebody say years ago, "Get right or get left" 00:12:00.82\00:12:03.77 Yes... and the Lord convicted me 00:12:03.81\00:12:07.64 of my life and my lifestyle that day and 00:12:07.67\00:12:09.94 sitting right there as a College Junior, 00:12:09.97\00:12:12.51 I surrendered my life totally to the Lord, 00:12:12.55\00:12:15.02 He'd become my Savior at the age of eight years of age 00:12:15.06\00:12:18.98 but that day as a College Junior, 00:12:19.01\00:12:21.31 Jesus became... my Lord... and from then on... 00:12:21.34\00:12:24.35 I turned my back on this Secular Music dream 00:12:24.39\00:12:27.36 and dedicated my life to singing gospel music 00:12:27.39\00:12:30.33 to teaching... to serving the Lord 00:12:30.36\00:12:33.96 and giving Him back my life 00:12:34.00\00:12:35.47 and my talents... and over the course of the years 00:12:35.51\00:12:38.51 over the course of my ministry, God has just opened up 00:12:38.55\00:12:41.52 my dreams and doors 00:12:41.56\00:12:45.33 that have literally been 00:12:45.37\00:12:46.92 beyond my wildest dreams and imagination... 00:12:46.96\00:12:49.89 Isn't it amazing... how we can get 00:12:49.93\00:12:54.59 so caught up in that whole illusion... 00:12:54.62\00:12:58.72 of what's out there... and really... 00:12:58.75\00:13:01.92 God's plan for us is so much better... 00:13:01.96\00:13:04.49 it's more than we could ask or think... 00:13:04.53\00:13:06.99 I mean... here you are... you looked at the world 00:13:07.02\00:13:11.39 and what it had to offer, and you kind of 00:13:11.42\00:13:13.26 bought into it... and then God... 00:13:13.30\00:13:15.32 in His perfect timing, had that tape... sitting there 00:13:15.35\00:13:19.15 for you to take... to take home with you... 00:13:19.18\00:13:21.64 of Danniebelle... you took that home 00:13:21.67\00:13:23.93 and that actually... began this whole process of 00:13:23.96\00:13:27.34 you surrendering... that's a wonderful, 00:13:27.38\00:13:29.76 wonderful thing... it shows that... when we walk 00:13:29.80\00:13:32.43 in God's plan... there is nothing better 00:13:32.47\00:13:34.69 there is nothing more fulfilling than walking in 00:13:34.73\00:13:37.94 His plan for you... so tell us 00:13:37.97\00:13:40.46 some of the highlights of your career... 00:13:40.49\00:13:42.13 where has God taken you... this is not to glorify you... 00:13:42.16\00:13:45.45 this is to glorify Him... where has He take you 00:13:45.49\00:13:48.28 in your career? 00:13:48.32\00:13:49.61 You know, Yvonne... the Lord, as you just mentioned, 00:13:49.65\00:13:55.42 He has a plan for us... Yes... 00:13:55.46\00:13:59.95 This is what He said, and this has become 00:13:59.98\00:14:03.29 a life verse for me... a lot of people know 00:14:03.32\00:14:06.22 Jeremiah 29:11 to 13... Yes... 00:14:06.26\00:14:08.99 I thought I'd mention that, that He says, 00:14:09.02\00:14:12.03 "I know the Plans for you," declares the Lord... 00:14:12.07\00:14:16.08 "they are plans to prosper you and not to harm you, 00:14:16.12\00:14:20.10 plans to give you a hope, and a future... " 00:14:20.14\00:14:22.86 He says, "Call on me... 00:14:22.90\00:14:24.91 and I'll answer you... search for me... 00:14:24.94\00:14:27.94 and you'll find me... when you search for me 00:14:27.98\00:14:30.71 with all of your heart... " Jeremiah 29:11 to 13... 00:14:30.74\00:14:36.64 and you know Yvonne, for every authentic thing... 00:14:36.68\00:14:42.55 there is an imitation... 00:14:42.58\00:14:44.86 and we have a God who has a plan for us... 00:14:44.89\00:14:50.04 we also have an adversary who has a plan for us as well, 00:14:50.07\00:14:53.82 That's right... Isn't that true? 00:14:53.86\00:14:55.95 That is right... we have the true and the counterfeit... 00:14:55.99\00:14:58.77 We have the truth and the counterfeit, 00:14:58.81\00:15:01.05 Hmmm... hmmm... and the enemy does not want us 00:15:01.09\00:15:04.24 to discover God's true purpose and plans for our lives... 00:15:04.27\00:15:07.71 and so he will do everything that he can 00:15:07.74\00:15:10.15 to distract us... you know, he's on a mission as well 00:15:10.19\00:15:13.31 to kill, to steal and destroy... 00:15:13.35\00:15:16.40 he does not want us to realize God's perfect plan for us... 00:15:16.43\00:15:20.16 and I tell you... over the course of almost 00:15:20.19\00:15:24.29 30 years now, Yvonne, 00:15:24.32\00:15:26.10 I taught Middle High School music... 00:15:26.14\00:15:28.65 for eight years, and all that time... 00:15:28.69\00:15:31.36 the Lord was opening up doors for me 00:15:31.40\00:15:34.04 until Music Ministry began to crowd my 00:15:34.07\00:15:36.88 everyday job and it literally forced me out of the classroom, 00:15:36.91\00:15:40.66 and over the course of the last 27 years now, 00:15:40.74\00:15:44.25 we have had the opportunity to travel literally 00:15:44.28\00:15:47.71 around the globe... and right here in our own County 00:15:47.75\00:15:51.93 I visit the Women's Jails and Prisons... 00:15:51.96\00:15:55.72 you talk about some wonderful worship services 00:15:55.76\00:15:59.35 just a high Worship Services... 00:15:59.38\00:16:01.96 if you have never heard the women and men sing in Prison 00:16:02.00\00:16:05.48 you have not heard singing in your life... 00:16:05.51\00:16:08.17 it is something phenomenal to behold... 00:16:08.21\00:16:10.23 Yes... from a Prison... 00:16:10.27\00:16:12.47 where I go and visit and sing, to singing before Presidents, 00:16:12.92\00:16:17.97 President Carter, President Ford, 00:16:18.00\00:16:20.80 President Bush, I've been literally around 00:16:20.84\00:16:24.57 the world to the jungles of Africa, 00:16:24.61\00:16:26.14 to the beautiful City of Lights in Paris, France 00:16:26.17\00:16:30.76 from South Africa... where we've spoken 00:16:30.79\00:16:34.55 and ministered to women there, in Victoria and Johannesburg, 00:16:34.58\00:16:40.40 and Cape Town, South Africa, literally to Eastern Europe, 00:16:40.44\00:16:46.23 in the depths of poverty, 00:16:46.26\00:16:48.51 and where the gospel... 00:16:48.54\00:16:50.73 you know... places where the gospel 00:16:50.76\00:16:52.07 has not even been preached... 00:16:52.11\00:16:53.14 and then now... I'm honored to do a television show 00:16:53.17\00:16:57.07 that literally goes around the world... 00:16:57.11\00:17:00.06 it's broadcast over the Internet as well as on Television... 00:17:00.10\00:17:04.43 and so the Lord... you know, when you give Him 00:17:04.47\00:17:07.76 your life... when you dedicate 00:17:07.79\00:17:10.06 your life to Him... and you make the statement, 00:17:10.09\00:17:12.49 "Lord, I will no longer compromise... 00:17:12.52\00:17:14.09 but I will dedicate my gifts, my life, my talents to you... " 00:17:14.13\00:17:19.50 He'll take you up on it... He'll take you up on it... 00:17:19.53\00:17:23.16 Yes... yes... and oh that's so good... 00:17:23.20\00:17:24.87 Isn't that good? It's so good... 00:17:24.90\00:17:27.30 We... and I say this on this Program... all the time 00:17:27.33\00:17:30.67 we talk about, basically, Jeremiah 29:11... 00:17:30.71\00:17:33.96 that God has a divine plan for each of us... 00:17:34.00\00:17:37.19 if we would just make ourselves available... 00:17:37.22\00:17:39.73 just like you just said... He will show us 00:17:39.76\00:17:42.88 what that plan is... and then open the doors 00:17:42.92\00:17:46.00 so that we can walk in our destiny... 00:17:46.04\00:17:48.87 our divine destiny... Satan has a destiny for us... 00:17:48.90\00:17:53.16 and God has one... and if we just focus on 00:17:53.19\00:17:57.60 what God wants us to do... He will have us doing 00:17:57.64\00:18:00.60 things that are exceedingly above 00:18:00.64\00:18:03.68 more than we could ask for or think... 00:18:03.71\00:18:06.17 I want our viewers to hear you because many of them... 00:18:06.21\00:18:10.26 some of them... I'm sure many of them 00:18:10.30\00:18:12.98 have already heard you sing... some of our viewers haven't... 00:18:13.01\00:18:16.14 so I have a little video of you singing... 00:18:16.17\00:18:19.29 and I'd like for us to put that up 00:18:19.32\00:18:22.36 and let our viewers get exposed the artistry and ministry 00:18:22.40\00:18:28.36 of my sister Babbie Mason... 00:18:28.40\00:18:30.83 See Babbie... it's these songs like "shine the Light" 00:22:33.86\00:22:36.31 that you've written that just... 00:22:36.35\00:22:38.52 they just take us to another place... 00:22:38.55\00:22:41.21 it's all about ministry and that's... 00:22:41.24\00:22:43.83 and I love that about you and your music... 00:22:43.87\00:22:46.52 it's about ministry... God has given you 00:22:46.55\00:22:49.13 a wonderful instrument and then He's given you that gift 00:22:49.16\00:22:52.03 of writing as well... 00:22:52.06\00:22:53.45 you've done over 20 albums... you have sung on over 20 albums 00:22:53.49\00:23:00.75 tell us some of the artists that have sung 00:23:00.78\00:23:02.62 some of your songs... because you've written... 00:23:02.66\00:23:04.25 how many songs have you written? 00:23:04.28\00:23:05.49 Well, let's see, Yvonne, I have probably written 00:23:05.52\00:23:10.40 maybe over 400 to 500 songs, 00:23:10.44\00:23:12.56 Amazing... and who are some of the artists 00:23:12.60\00:23:15.83 that have recorded your songs? 00:23:15.87\00:23:17.17 I have had... the Lord has blessed me to have 00:23:17.20\00:23:21.21 songs in many genres in contemporary Christian music, 00:23:21.25\00:23:25.68 I've recorded many of my songs, Alvin Slaughter, 00:23:25.72\00:23:30.12 CeCe Winans... Larnelle Harris... 00:23:30.15\00:23:32.86 then I have songs in gospel music... 00:23:32.89\00:23:35.53 traditional gospel music, O'Landa Draper... 00:23:35.56\00:23:38.42 remember sweet old O'Landa Draper 00:23:38.45\00:23:40.52 Yes... you know, Walker... 00:23:40.56\00:23:42.62 Danniebelle Hall and I've recorded together... 00:23:42.66\00:23:46.24 I've had some wonderful, some wonderful artists 00:23:46.28\00:23:49.83 record my songs... I've even had songs 00:23:49.86\00:23:52.45 that have been in movies... do you remember the movie 00:23:52.49\00:23:55.84 Déjà Vu with Denzel Washington, the song, 00:23:55.87\00:23:59.24 "Holy Spirit come and fill this place... " 00:23:59.28\00:24:02.58 that was recorded by CeCe Winans was actually in that movie 00:24:02.61\00:24:05.75 so, God has really honored my music and my ministry 00:24:05.79\00:24:11.58 and music career it's been a real privilege 00:24:11.61\00:24:14.47 and lots of sweet surprises... working for the Lord... 00:24:14.50\00:24:17.26 Yes... yes... for sure... for sure... 00:24:17.30\00:24:19.64 and now... you are just not even satisfied 00:24:19.67\00:24:23.12 with just writing music... you've written a book as well... 00:24:23.16\00:24:26.20 tell us what's behind the book... 00:24:26.23\00:24:28.61 the book is "Embracing" is it "Embrace you?" 00:24:28.65\00:24:31.68 "Embraced by God" Embraced by God... 00:24:31.71\00:24:35.14 tell us... what's behind this book? 00:24:35.17\00:24:38.53 Well, one Sunday morning... quickly, just to give you the 00:24:38.56\00:24:42.01 long and short story... my husband and I 00:24:42.04\00:24:44.14 were sitting there on Sunday Morning Worship Service 00:24:44.18\00:24:45.84 one Sunday... and the Pastor said, 00:24:45.87\00:24:47.48 "Turn to your neighbor and say to your neighbor, 00:24:47.52\00:24:49.78 'I am God's favorite'" 00:24:49.81\00:24:51.47 and I thought, "Okay, that's kind of cute... " 00:24:51.51\00:24:54.02 I said it to my husband and he said it to me... 00:24:54.05\00:24:56.53 people chuckled as we said those words... 00:24:56.56\00:24:58.35 but as the days progressed, Yvonne, 00:24:58.39\00:25:00.45 I wasn't sure that it was true... 00:25:00.49\00:25:02.48 I wasn't sure that I actually qualified to be God's favorite, 00:25:02.52\00:25:05.41 I mean, how does one become God's favorite? 00:25:05.45\00:25:07.40 I thought God didn't play favorites... 00:25:07.43\00:25:08.62 how could that possibly be that I could be considered 00:25:08.65\00:25:12.23 God's favorite... and it intrigued me so 00:25:12.26\00:25:14.77 that I began looking for answers in the Word of God... 00:25:14.81\00:25:18.51 and I came upon... John 17... I know I've read the Chapter 00:25:18.55\00:25:22.22 many times... but I happened to be reading 00:25:22.26\00:25:23.76 in a passage of the Bible 00:25:23.80\00:25:25.95 that was more contemporary... 00:25:25.98\00:25:28.06 in a version that was more in contemporary language, 00:25:28.10\00:25:31.29 and what it says in John 17:23, Jesus is praying... 00:25:31.33\00:25:35.45 He's praying... that we would understand 00:25:35.48\00:25:38.18 that God loves us as much as He loves His own Son, 00:25:38.22\00:25:42.73 my eyes were opened... 00:25:42.77\00:25:44.68 I said, "What in the world! God, you mean you love me 00:25:44.72\00:25:48.50 as much as you love Jesus... this is revelatory... 00:25:48.53\00:25:52.78 you love me as much as you love your own Son... " 00:25:52.81\00:25:57.02 therefore, Yvonne, you know how we feel like 00:25:57.05\00:26:00.44 we have to perform 00:26:00.48\00:26:02.37 for God's love... 00:26:02.41\00:26:04.24 Yes... We are not good enough... 00:26:04.27\00:26:05.82 we think we have to pray more... 00:26:05.86\00:26:08.46 we have to always do more... you know... 00:26:08.50\00:26:10.43 that's what that legalistic mind-set... 00:26:10.47\00:26:12.33 it's a mind-set of striving... I have to do more... 00:26:12.37\00:26:17.12 I have to pray more... I have to be more... 00:26:17.16\00:26:19.12 I have to strive to be perfect, I have to give more... 00:26:19.16\00:26:22.23 I have to go to Church more... but Jesus is enough... 00:26:22.26\00:26:24.98 Come on... Jesus is enough... 00:26:25.02\00:26:27.45 Jesus has done all that we need... 00:26:27.48\00:26:30.24 Jesus is our sacrifice... He was the perfect sacrifice... 00:26:30.27\00:26:34.48 therefore... we no longer have to do sacrificial giving... 00:26:34.52\00:26:38.70 we no longer have to do any more... 00:26:38.73\00:26:41.35 we just have to be... be grateful... 00:26:41.38\00:26:43.96 be thankful... be obedient... 00:26:44.00\00:26:46.62 be the person that He wants us to be... 00:26:46.65\00:26:49.23 through His beautiful Son, Jesus... 00:26:49.26\00:26:51.76 and that is freedom... and that's really the theme 00:26:51.80\00:26:54.59 behind "Embraced by God" 00:26:54.62\00:26:56.10 is... understanding that God loves you 00:26:56.14\00:26:59.18 as much as He loves His own Son... 00:26:59.21\00:27:02.22 and we can be free in that... 00:27:02.25\00:27:03.88 Well, praise the Lord... what better way to end 00:27:03.92\00:27:06.07 than on those words... 00:27:06.11\00:27:07.29 Babbie... thank you so much for being with us today, 00:27:07.32\00:27:10.73 and I want you... to come here... 00:27:10.76\00:27:14.29 to 3ABN to our Urban Report Set... 00:27:14.33\00:27:17.79 and come here on the Set... so that we can 00:27:17.82\00:27:20.53 really look face-to-face... and talk like sisters... 00:27:20.57\00:27:23.98 I'd love that... and if I could just remind 00:27:24.02\00:27:26.67 your listeners... they can check me out... 00:27:26.71\00:27:29.30 I'd love to visit with them, or communicate with them, 00:27:29.33\00:27:32.41 at my website... babbie. com 00:27:32.44\00:27:35.46 and Babbie is spelled, Babbie... 00:27:35.49\00:27:38.09 babbie. com... I'm on Facebook... 00:27:38.12\00:27:40.65 and Twitter and all of those wonderful media places, 00:27:40.69\00:27:43.01 I'd love to reach out to you sometime... 00:27:43.05\00:27:45.13 Thank you... we're going to put your 00:27:45.16\00:27:47.25 information up on the screen as well... 00:27:47.29\00:27:49.34 Thank you Babbie... love you... 00:27:49.38\00:27:51.26 I love you too my friend... 00:27:51.29\00:27:52.92 We've reached the end 00:27:52.96\00:27:54.40 of another Program... 00:27:54.43\00:27:55.84 Thanks for tuning in... join us next time... 00:27:55.87\00:27:58.03 it just wouldn't be the same... without you... 00:27:58.06\00:28:01.26