Jesus met people at their points of need... 00:00:01.06\00:00:03.56 Stay tuned to meet a young man that's following 00:00:03.59\00:00:06.16 after Christ and meeting the needs of 00:00:06.19\00:00:08.12 inner city children and youth... 00:00:08.16\00:00:09.76 My name is Yvonne Lewis and you're watching 00:00:09.80\00:00:12.44 Urban Report... 00:00:12.48\00:00:13.87 Hello and welcome to Urban Report... 00:00:34.74\00:00:37.13 My guest today is Keith Hackle... 00:00:37.16\00:00:39.48 Outreach Coordinator for Harbor of Hope Ministry 00:00:39.51\00:00:42.44 in Benton Harbor, Michigan... welcome Keith... 00:00:42.47\00:00:45.36 Hey, thanks for having me today, how are you? 00:00:45.40\00:00:48.22 Great... praise the Lord, thank you for being here 00:00:48.26\00:00:51.26 You're doing well? I'm doing wonderful... 00:00:51.30\00:00:53.39 Oh, that's great... that's great... 00:00:53.42\00:00:54.68 You know, I had the opportunity to meet and talk with you 00:00:54.72\00:00:58.26 at this past ASI... we did a brief interview then, 00:00:58.30\00:01:01.94 and I wanted to bring you back to really expand some more 00:01:01.97\00:01:06.23 about Harbor of Hope Ministries, so, let's talk a little bit 00:01:06.26\00:01:10.48 about you and then, let's talk about the ministry 00:01:10.52\00:01:13.86 that you're doing... 00:01:13.90\00:01:15.09 Where did you grow up Keith? I grew up in Cincinnati, Ohio, 00:01:15.12\00:01:19.47 inner city and we bounced around... 00:01:19.51\00:01:22.70 I went to probably 7 different schools 00:01:22.73\00:01:25.86 from Kindergarten to High School single-parent household 00:01:25.89\00:01:31.82 I knew my dad but he really wasn't around 00:01:31.85\00:01:34.12 so, Cincinnati is where I was brought up 00:01:34.16\00:01:36.33 and just got the blessing a year-and-a-half ago 00:01:36.37\00:01:39.77 of actually moving outside of Cincinnati for the first time 00:01:39.81\00:01:43.71 to Michigan... Yes... 00:01:43.74\00:01:45.21 so it's been different... Yeah... 00:01:45.25\00:01:47.31 it's been nice... Now, why did you move around 00:01:47.34\00:01:49.36 7 times... why were you moving so much? 00:01:49.39\00:01:51.64 My mother was a... like I said... a single parent 00:01:51.68\00:01:55.73 and sometimes we were able to stay with a relative 00:01:55.77\00:01:59.79 or sometimes finances were okay 00:01:59.83\00:02:02.15 for us to be in a better neighborhood 00:02:02.18\00:02:04.14 we just depending on her finances... 00:02:04.17\00:02:06.23 her personal situation that dictated 00:02:06.27\00:02:08.26 where we would be at a certain point in my life. 00:02:08.30\00:02:11.12 Wow... so was that hard on you 00:02:11.16\00:02:13.70 or did you just kind of roll with it? 00:02:13.73\00:02:15.85 It was very difficult I was able to play sports, 00:02:15.89\00:02:20.49 so that helped me to kind of overlook 00:02:20.53\00:02:24.14 those situations and I've always been able 00:02:24.18\00:02:26.52 to kind of mingle with individuals and be friendly 00:02:26.55\00:02:30.41 so that allowed me to make friends 00:02:30.45\00:02:31.92 regardless of where we were 00:02:31.96\00:02:33.17 but at the same time, it did draw me closer 00:02:33.20\00:02:36.32 to my mother... and then I had two younger sisters 00:02:36.36\00:02:39.27 we became more close-knit as a result of having 00:02:39.31\00:02:42.19 only each other every time that we moved 00:02:42.22\00:02:44.70 to a different location... 00:02:44.73\00:02:45.77 Yes... yes that would be difficult because 00:02:45.80\00:02:50.19 you have to make new friends you have to adjust to 00:02:50.22\00:02:53.66 a whole new environment 00:02:53.69\00:02:54.98 sometimes you're not living in your own space... 00:02:55.02\00:02:57.61 so that had to be... that had to be challenging 00:02:57.64\00:03:00.36 for you but also I can see how it could draw you 00:03:00.39\00:03:03.18 closer together... did you grow up in a Christian 00:03:03.22\00:03:05.98 home... was your mom a Christian... or 00:03:06.01\00:03:07.93 Um... my mother... there were talks of Christ 00:03:07.97\00:03:13.04 we went to Church twice a year... 00:03:13.08\00:03:15.33 so Easter and Christmas those were the times 00:03:15.37\00:03:18.56 that we would go to Church so it wasn't a Christian home 00:03:18.59\00:03:21.42 in the sense that every single day you're starting 00:03:21.46\00:03:24.35 with a word from God and every day you're ending 00:03:24.39\00:03:27.25 with a word from God 00:03:27.28\00:03:28.89 we knew to pray and we knew to do certain things 00:03:28.93\00:03:31.97 but it wasn't that structure... 00:03:32.00\00:03:34.75 Christian structure that individuals need 00:03:34.78\00:03:37.37 as they are being brought up, 00:03:37.40\00:03:38.89 Yes, yes... it was kind of an occasional thing 00:03:38.92\00:03:42.06 not a regular routine kind of... integrating God into 00:03:42.09\00:03:46.41 your-daily-routine type of situation 00:03:46.45\00:03:48.79 Correct... So, at what point 00:03:48.82\00:03:50.28 did you come to know the Lord for yourself? 00:03:50.32\00:03:52.71 I would say I was about 17-years-old 00:03:52.74\00:03:57.15 What happened? Well, I had gone through a lot 00:03:57.18\00:04:01.03 like I said, my dad wasn't there 00:04:01.07\00:04:04.02 so I began to look to the streets 00:04:04.06\00:04:06.94 for examples of how to be a man, the things to do... 00:04:06.97\00:04:11.29 and a lot of those things as you know 00:04:11.32\00:04:14.12 were bad examples... so I got myself 00:04:14.16\00:04:16.89 in a lot of trouble and I had a friend though 00:04:16.93\00:04:20.30 that went to Church funny... even though we were 00:04:20.33\00:04:23.63 getting into a lot of trouble his mother was a Pastor 00:04:23.67\00:04:27.07 and he went to Church on a regular basis 00:04:27.10\00:04:29.22 so he invited me one day... and it was there 00:04:29.25\00:04:31.30 sitting in the pews the Pastor was doing a sermon 00:04:31.34\00:04:34.02 about giving your life to Christ 00:04:34.06\00:04:35.65 and how you don't have to 00:04:35.69\00:04:37.60 keep going through the same cycles 00:04:37.63\00:04:39.17 over and over again... that you see your relatives 00:04:39.20\00:04:41.61 and family members go through 00:04:41.65\00:04:43.20 and it was at that time that I walked up 00:04:43.24\00:04:45.67 for the appeal and at that time... 00:04:45.70\00:04:48.24 I began my walk with Jesus. 00:04:48.27\00:04:50.45 Wow... you know... I want to talk about that 00:04:50.48\00:04:53.23 for a minute Keith because this is so important 00:04:53.26\00:04:55.97 for our viewers to know... 00:04:56.01\00:04:57.69 number one... number one is that you can get caught up 00:04:57.72\00:05:02.42 out there... and that there are so many 00:05:02.46\00:05:05.46 distractions for you as a young person 00:05:05.49\00:05:08.43 there are so many... and an older person... I mean... 00:05:08.46\00:05:10.78 there are so many distractions out there because 00:05:10.81\00:05:12.68 Satan just has all of these other things 00:05:12.71\00:05:15.96 for you to get into... Correct... 00:05:15.99\00:05:18.11 so, there are so many distractions out there 00:05:18.15\00:05:20.25 but you don't have to stay in that... 00:05:20.29\00:05:23.20 That's true... you have alternatives, 00:05:23.23\00:05:26.07 there are options... God has something better for you 00:05:26.11\00:05:29.01 and so... you know that God called you 00:05:29.04\00:05:32.50 from that life that you had gotten tired of 00:05:32.54\00:05:36.07 and God placed you in a situation 00:05:36.11\00:05:38.16 where you could hear about Him... 00:05:38.20\00:05:40.22 and that's what you're doing with Harbor of Hope 00:05:40.26\00:05:44.42 that's what it seems to me you're doing... 00:05:44.45\00:05:47.44 you took your... and we're going to talk about 00:05:47.47\00:05:50.38 Harbor of Hope of course, but you took... your whole... 00:05:50.42\00:05:53.68 the trajectory of your life... 00:05:53.72\00:05:55.74 the path that you were going down 00:05:55.78\00:05:57.62 and God's been able to turn that around and now 00:05:57.66\00:06:00.96 you can use that to help others that are going through 00:06:01.00\00:06:04.27 that same kind of thing... 00:06:04.30\00:06:05.72 God is so... to me... and you know 00:06:05.75\00:06:08.86 I mean... He's so awesome... 00:06:08.89\00:06:10.07 He's awesome... He's awesome... yes He is... 00:06:10.10\00:06:12.11 and I think if people really knew 00:06:12.14\00:06:14.37 who He was and how he was... 00:06:14.41\00:06:16.57 they would want to try Him out You're right... 00:06:16.60\00:06:19.35 just try it... because what you're doing 00:06:19.38\00:06:21.22 is not making you happy, right, 00:06:21.25\00:06:23.23 I mean, were you happy at 17, were you happy? 00:06:23.27\00:06:26.36 I wasn't happy and I think what Satan does 00:06:26.39\00:06:29.41 is he does an excellent job of making you seem like 00:06:29.44\00:06:32.16 while you're in it... you're happy... 00:06:32.20\00:06:34.15 a lot of times, while you're out in the streets 00:06:34.19\00:06:36.15 while you're doing all the negativity... it seems like... 00:06:36.19\00:06:38.59 you're having fun... but it was those times... 00:06:38.63\00:06:40.89 when I was alone... actually... when no one else was around, 00:06:40.92\00:06:44.82 that God would speak to me and it's like, 00:06:44.85\00:06:47.17 "Dude, you're not happy with what you're doing... 00:06:47.21\00:06:49.33 you're not receiving the joy 00:06:49.37\00:06:51.08 that you could be receiving right now... " 00:06:51.12\00:06:53.49 and I thank Him also, because He put individuals 00:06:53.53\00:06:56.64 in my life that encouraged me to be better 00:06:56.68\00:06:59.45 Hmmm... while there were individuals 00:06:59.48\00:07:01.41 who told me... that by 25... 00:07:01.45\00:07:03.27 I would be in one of two places... 00:07:03.30\00:07:04.67 either dead or in jail... there were also 00:07:04.70\00:07:06.49 individuals in my life, through sports 00:07:06.53\00:07:08.01 and things like that they were like... 00:07:08.04\00:07:09.46 "Hey, I want to put you in a position 00:07:09.49\00:07:11.09 where you're going to be the leader of this team... " 00:07:11.13\00:07:13.74 they were saying to me... "You have talent... 00:07:13.78\00:07:16.45 you have an ability... you can stop leading 00:07:16.48\00:07:19.11 individuals to the wrong way 00:07:19.15\00:07:21.13 use those talents 00:07:21.17\00:07:22.41 and lead them to do something positive... " 00:07:22.45\00:07:24.51 and that's what it was all about... 00:07:24.55\00:07:26.44 and I think that's our call also as we're in the Community, 00:07:26.48\00:07:29.37 we're interacting with individuals 00:07:29.41\00:07:31.13 is to give them that encouragement 00:07:31.16\00:07:32.81 to let them know that God has something better 00:07:32.84\00:07:36.75 for them... and that's what it's about... 00:07:36.78\00:07:39.53 Yes... yes... there is something better 00:07:39.57\00:07:42.25 you don't have to be stuck in that whole negative 00:07:42.28\00:07:45.57 lifestyle... you can have an abundant life... 00:07:45.61\00:07:48.47 no matter how much money you have or don't have 00:07:48.51\00:07:51.34 it's not about the money so much 00:07:51.38\00:07:52.71 as it is about the mind-set, you know... 00:07:52.75\00:07:56.60 I tell people that money can come... 00:07:56.64\00:08:00.43 you follow your passion, God can bless you, 00:08:00.46\00:08:03.50 you give to the Lord's causes, 00:08:03.53\00:08:06.54 and money can come so it's not about money, 00:08:06.57\00:08:09.41 it's about your mind-set... 00:08:09.45\00:08:10.85 and God wants to give you a different mind... 00:08:10.88\00:08:13.86 "Let this mind be in you that is in Christ Jesus... " 00:08:13.90\00:08:16.93 so, He wants to change the way you're going 00:08:16.96\00:08:19.78 and the way you're thinking and put you 00:08:19.82\00:08:23.18 onto another path... and, you know, 00:08:23.21\00:08:25.73 another thing that you said, Keith, 00:08:25.76\00:08:28.21 to me that was so significant was... you talked about 00:08:28.24\00:08:31.52 how, there were some people that really told you 00:08:31.55\00:08:36.43 they were only two things... 00:08:36.47\00:08:37.59 two ways you're going to end up 00:08:37.62\00:08:38.92 either in prison or in jail... 00:08:38.95\00:08:40.26 I mean... in prison or dead... 00:08:40.30\00:08:41.57 but then... there were others that encouraged you 00:08:41.75\00:08:45.22 and told you that there was greatness in you 00:08:45.25\00:08:47.92 there were things that you could do 00:08:47.96\00:08:49.96 that could change your circumstances 00:08:50.00\00:08:51.93 if you would speak a little bit about that 00:08:51.97\00:08:54.51 and tell us how Harbor of Hope is doing now. 00:08:54.54\00:08:58.03 Not a problem, I think that's vitally important 00:08:58.07\00:09:01.69 in everyone's life... if you look at where we're at 00:09:01.73\00:09:05.32 Harbor of Hope... we're operating in the 00:09:05.35\00:09:07.69 inner city of Benton Harbor, and in that environment 00:09:07.73\00:09:11.00 we have a lot of individuals that aren't trying 00:09:11.03\00:09:13.99 to do their homework... 00:09:14.03\00:09:15.51 they go to class everyday 00:09:15.54\00:09:16.95 and they're going to asleep... they're not picking up their 00:09:16.99\00:09:18.45 books and reading anything, 00:09:18.48\00:09:20.19 they're not trying to do the Math assignments 00:09:20.23\00:09:23.41 and I believe that a reason for that... 00:09:23.44\00:09:25.36 a big reason contributing to that is because 00:09:25.40\00:09:27.67 they've been told... for the majority of their lives 00:09:27.71\00:09:30.66 if not all of their life, that they "Can't" 00:09:30.70\00:09:32.97 individuals are telling them "you can't do this, 00:09:33.01\00:09:35.01 you can't do that... " whether it's their parents 00:09:35.05\00:09:37.02 when they come home or 00:09:37.06\00:09:38.16 their friend while they are outside playing 00:09:38.19\00:09:39.96 all they keep hearing is, 00:09:39.99\00:09:41.58 "You can't... you can't... you can't... " 00:09:41.62\00:09:42.88 and over time what happens... 00:09:42.92\00:09:45.21 is that individuals begin to believe that, 00:09:45.25\00:09:47.50 "I can't... I can't... I can't" God blessed me with individuals 00:09:47.53\00:09:51.81 that came and even when I said, "I can't" they were saying 00:09:51.85\00:09:55.45 "You can... " Yes... 00:09:55.49\00:09:56.72 and they were pushing me to do what I didn't even believe 00:09:56.75\00:10:00.48 that I could do... they were pushing me and 00:10:00.52\00:10:03.16 daring me to even dream... and now as we go out 00:10:03.20\00:10:06.14 we tell these kids whether they're in the 5th Grade 00:10:06.17\00:10:10.09 or whether they are in High School... 00:10:10.12\00:10:11.41 we're challenging them to dream big... 00:10:11.44\00:10:14.33 even if it doesn't make sense, because that's essentially 00:10:14.37\00:10:17.33 what God has called us to do, He has called us 00:10:17.37\00:10:19.74 to trust in him... Yes... 00:10:19.77\00:10:21.32 He's called us to build a relationship with Him 00:10:21.35\00:10:23.28 and He has called us to believe that even in those times 00:10:23.31\00:10:26.48 where it doesn't look like it's possible... 00:10:26.52\00:10:28.35 as long as we trust in Him, and allow Him to use us 00:10:28.39\00:10:31.59 in the way that He wants to use us... 00:10:31.63\00:10:32.95 that we can do anything... and that's essentially 00:10:32.98\00:10:35.89 what Harbor of Hope is doing we're out here... 00:10:35.92\00:10:38.79 we're encouraging everyone in the Community 00:10:38.82\00:10:41.36 that they can overcome their circumstance... 00:10:41.40\00:10:44.58 Yes... this is so... this is just so important 00:10:44.61\00:10:47.62 and this is so much of what Dare to Dream is about 00:10:47.66\00:10:50.63 I mean... just the name Dare to Dream... 00:10:50.66\00:10:53.05 this is what it's about... knowing that 00:10:53.09\00:10:55.70 you can do anything by the grace of God 00:10:55.73\00:10:58.27 and God will help you to achieve those goals 00:10:58.31\00:11:01.35 as long as those goals are in compliance 00:11:01.38\00:11:03.94 with His will for you... You're right... 00:11:03.97\00:11:06.50 You're right... 00:11:06.53\00:11:07.72 Tell us... 00:11:07.76\00:11:09.36 what is Harbor of Hope really... 00:11:09.40\00:11:13.24 I mean... tell us about the ministry... 00:11:13.28\00:11:15.00 What is Harbor of Hope? 00:11:15.03\00:11:16.24 Harbor of Hope... it is just that... 00:11:16.27\00:11:20.78 it's a harbor of hope... again, we're in Benton Harbor 00:11:20.82\00:11:23.70 we're in a city where jobs are gone... 00:11:23.74\00:11:26.65 we're in a city where pregnancy for young girls 00:11:26.68\00:11:30.49 is through the roof... 00:11:30.53\00:11:31.66 we're in a city where young men 00:11:31.70\00:11:33.65 are going to jail at an early age 00:11:33.69\00:11:35.58 and individuals are dropping out of School 00:11:35.61\00:11:38.47 and what's happening is that... 00:11:38.50\00:11:39.66 there's this environment of individuals who 00:11:39.69\00:11:41.93 don't believe that they can do anything... 00:11:41.97\00:11:44.17 Hmmm... so, as a result... 00:11:44.21\00:11:46.56 they're looking for something, they're looking for hope 00:11:46.59\00:11:50.61 and they can come to Harbor of Hope 00:11:50.65\00:11:52.55 and they receive the word from God 00:11:52.58\00:11:54.29 and they receive messages that say, 00:11:54.33\00:11:55.97 "Listen, God loves you... you were created 00:11:56.00\00:11:58.78 with a purpose... God wants you to do something 00:11:58.81\00:12:02.80 in your sphere of influence and even in the world... " 00:12:02.83\00:12:06.64 and if you look 00:12:06.67\00:12:08.44 at what we've been experiencing 00:12:08.47\00:12:10.70 at Harbor of Hope and helping these people to... 00:12:10.73\00:12:13.11 these individuals to see this... and to believe this 00:12:13.14\00:12:16.23 and then to carry it out in their lives... 00:12:16.27\00:12:18.36 what's happening is that... gradually families are being 00:12:18.39\00:12:22.00 affected by this and then... 00:12:22.04\00:12:23.44 by the families... the neighbors are being affected 00:12:23.48\00:12:25.99 Yes... and the classmates are being 00:12:26.03\00:12:28.01 affected... and it becomes contagious 00:12:28.05\00:12:30.25 Yes... if you feed into individuals 00:12:30.29\00:12:32.00 that they're not going to be anything 00:12:32.03\00:12:33.67 that becomes contagious... but if you feed the hope 00:12:33.70\00:12:36.32 into the individuals, and just let them know that 00:12:36.35\00:12:38.12 that Jesus loves you... and so do I... 00:12:38.15\00:12:40.20 I'm going to walk with you through this thing... 00:12:40.24\00:12:42.20 we've been seeing... amazing growth... 00:12:42.24\00:12:45.39 Praise the Lord... tell us about some specific 00:12:45.43\00:12:49.06 instances where children or young people's lives 00:12:49.10\00:12:52.70 have been changed as a result 00:12:52.74\00:12:54.41 of the intervention of Harbor of Hope... 00:12:54.45\00:12:57.69 Awesome... there are a lot of stories 00:12:57.72\00:13:00.89 but one... that I would like to touch on is... 00:13:00.93\00:13:04.47 a young lady... and she has a... 00:13:04.50\00:13:06.56 there are actually two of them, 00:13:06.60\00:13:08.59 and they attend the Church on a regular basis... 00:13:08.62\00:13:11.09 they come... and they receive the Word 00:13:11.13\00:13:14.25 we sit down and we eat meals together 00:13:14.29\00:13:16.97 we do Bible Studies... we play games... 00:13:17.01\00:13:19.07 there are a lot of things that go on... 00:13:19.11\00:13:21.56 while they're there at Harbor of Hope... 00:13:21.59\00:13:24.01 but what I found with her mother coming forward 00:13:24.04\00:13:28.30 and requesting baptism, 00:13:28.33\00:13:29.93 we started doing the Bible Studies... 00:13:29.96\00:13:31.89 and when I was in the home one day... 00:13:31.93\00:13:33.79 mommy cooked dinner and the kids came down 00:13:33.83\00:13:36.93 they looked into the kitchen and they're like, 00:13:36.96\00:13:38.78 "Mom, what's for dinner?" they looked in the oven 00:13:38.82\00:13:40.57 and they come in the room... 00:13:40.60\00:13:42.72 where we're doing the Bible Study and they said... 00:13:42.75\00:13:44.23 "Mom, is this something I can eat?" 00:13:44.27\00:13:45.69 and it amazed me because 00:13:45.73\00:13:49.82 you think sometimes that you're telling these kids 00:13:49.86\00:13:52.11 these stories... and it's going in one ear and out the other... 00:13:52.14\00:13:54.93 but already what they've done is 00:13:54.96\00:13:57.71 they've kind of "dared to be a Daniel... " 00:13:57.74\00:14:00.12 I'd like to say... they're looking at the diet 00:14:00.16\00:14:02.50 and they're looking at what God has said 00:14:02.53\00:14:04.63 that He doesn't want us putting in our body, 00:14:04.66\00:14:06.75 and they're saying... even in this environment 00:14:06.79\00:14:08.84 where unclean foods are running rampant... 00:14:08.87\00:14:15.18 I mean... everybody eats unclean foods in these environments... 00:14:15.21\00:14:18.17 they're saying... even in this environment 00:14:18.20\00:14:20.38 I'm willing to say, "No" to this thing 00:14:20.41\00:14:22.52 and what has happened is mom has begun to adjust 00:14:22.55\00:14:26.02 the menu that she puts together for her kids... 00:14:26.05\00:14:29.48 so now, she's not putting those foods before her kids 00:14:29.52\00:14:32.78 and she's recognizing that that if they're going to be 00:14:32.82\00:14:36.39 involved in this... and they're going to feel this 00:14:36.43\00:14:39.55 way about this thing, then she too believes that 00:14:39.59\00:14:42.26 she needs to start understanding those things... 00:14:42.30\00:14:44.90 so it becomes more than just activities on the Sabbath 00:14:44.94\00:14:48.77 and it becomes more than just leaving home... 00:14:48.81\00:14:51.15 it's becoming more... 00:14:51.18\00:14:52.44 "I'm leaving home and I'm coming back, 00:14:52.47\00:14:54.89 I'm going to give to you everything that I've received 00:14:54.93\00:14:58.17 and that's that Jesus wants us 00:14:58.20\00:14:59.87 to have a better life than what we've had... " 00:14:59.91\00:15:01.85 Oh, that's great... that's great... 00:15:01.89\00:15:05.09 so, Harbor of Hope is it a Church... 00:15:05.13\00:15:08.16 is it a Program, what is Harbor of Hope? 00:15:08.19\00:15:10.91 Harbor of Hope is definitely a Church 00:15:10.95\00:15:13.42 we get together on Sabbath morning... 00:15:13.45\00:15:15.85 we pick the kids up... those that don't have rides 00:15:15.89\00:15:19.32 and their parents... we bring them in... 00:15:19.36\00:15:20.71 have lunch... have breakfast in the morning 00:15:20.74\00:15:22.73 then we have Divine Worship Service 00:15:22.76\00:15:24.94 and then we have Sabbath School, and then we have lunch... 00:15:24.98\00:15:28.78 but along with that... 00:15:28.81\00:15:30.84 the things that we do on Sabbath 00:15:30.87\00:15:32.62 we also have other activities that the kids can get 00:15:32.65\00:15:35.36 involved in... we have a mentoring program 00:15:35.39\00:15:37.76 we have Thursday night basketball program, 00:15:37.80\00:15:40.10 we have activities where we go out to the Community 00:15:40.13\00:15:42.79 and we take the Church to the Community, 00:15:42.82\00:15:44.85 there are a lot of things that are going on 00:15:44.89\00:15:47.55 in Harbor of Hope... Wow... that's incredible 00:15:47.59\00:15:50.22 what is the population that it serves... 00:15:50.25\00:15:53.95 what are the ages that you serve... 00:15:53.98\00:15:56.11 well, it depends on the 00:15:56.14\00:15:59.38 different facets... for the regular church 00:15:59.42\00:16:01.30 anybody is invited anybody can come 00:16:01.34\00:16:03.48 and if you need a ride, 00:16:03.51\00:16:04.89 we'll come and get you, where you're at... 00:16:04.92\00:16:07.53 then there are programs, each Sabbath School 00:16:07.57\00:16:10.08 is branched off... by the age group 00:16:10.11\00:16:12.37 the activity... when we go to the Community, 00:16:12.41\00:16:16.36 and take the Church to the Community 00:16:16.39\00:16:17.97 every Friday and Sabbath, that is for the younger group 00:16:18.00\00:16:21.75 ranging from 3 to 12... 00:16:21.78\00:16:24.08 the mentoring group is from 13-17... 00:16:24.12\00:16:27.84 Basketball on Thursday nights is for anyone 00:16:27.88\00:16:31.85 ages 11 through... we have individuals that are 25 00:16:31.89\00:16:34.57 and older that come out and play basketball... 00:16:34.61\00:16:37.49 so there's a range of activities and individuals 00:16:37.53\00:16:40.17 that we look to reach... through this ministry... 00:16:40.21\00:16:42.82 Wow, that is so incredible... because, again, it meets people 00:16:42.85\00:16:48.28 at their points of need... you are feeding them... 00:16:48.32\00:16:50.71 you feed them breakfast? Yes... 00:16:50.75\00:16:52.77 so you give them the physical food 00:16:52.81\00:16:54.77 you give them the spiritual food then you hit them back some 00:16:54.80\00:16:58.51 physical food... and you're teaching them 00:16:58.55\00:17:01.57 how to eat... because one of the things 00:17:01.61\00:17:04.34 that you mentioned about that family... 00:17:04.38\00:17:07.50 where the children were telling the mom... 00:17:07.53\00:17:10.58 how they can't eat this... and they can't eat that... 00:17:10.61\00:17:13.53 and the mom finds out what's good to cook 00:17:13.56\00:17:15.64 so it does kind of spread out over the family, 00:17:15.68\00:17:20.08 the neighborhood, the Community... 00:17:20.11\00:17:22.19 that's exactly... what we should be doing... 00:17:22.23\00:17:25.42 it's practical Godliness, it's living out... the Word... 00:17:25.46\00:17:30.68 Yes... and that is incredible... 00:17:30.72\00:17:32.44 so, when a child gets picked up 00:17:32.48\00:17:36.50 do the parents go as well, 00:17:36.54\00:17:38.63 there's a bus or something isn't there that picks up the... 00:17:38.66\00:17:41.97 Correct... there's a bus that picks them up... 00:17:42.01\00:17:43.17 we would love for the parents to come but unfortunately 00:17:43.20\00:17:46.76 all parents don't attend, that's where my focus is 00:17:46.79\00:17:52.65 as the Outreach Coordinator, I do visitation 00:17:52.68\00:17:55.88 and I go into the homes and what we've found is that 00:17:55.92\00:17:59.00 if you can reach someone, by just treating them 00:17:59.03\00:18:02.83 as an individual... treating them as an individual 00:18:02.87\00:18:05.39 talking to them... seeing what's on their mind 00:18:05.43\00:18:07.97 understanding their problems, praying with them, 00:18:08.01\00:18:10.52 and then coming back and asking about 00:18:10.55\00:18:12.57 those prayers that you prayed about... 00:18:12.60\00:18:14.55 how's God been answering, and praising God every time 00:18:14.59\00:18:17.30 they give you feedback... you're just building 00:18:17.34\00:18:19.91 a relationship with them, then gradually 00:18:19.95\00:18:22.10 what happens is that the parents begin to come 00:18:22.13\00:18:24.46 we have many instances in which the kids started coming, 00:18:24.49\00:18:27.72 and they've seen how it's affecting their children, 00:18:27.76\00:18:31.19 and then the parents have come, so, it's a gradual 00:18:31.22\00:18:34.62 intentional thing... we're not accidently 00:18:34.65\00:18:37.23 building relationships with individuals... 00:18:37.26\00:18:38.83 but we're intentionally building relationships with them, 00:18:38.87\00:18:41.49 so that when they finally do come, 00:18:41.52\00:18:43.56 they feel comfortable and they understand 00:18:43.60\00:18:45.57 that the same love that we've showed them 00:18:45.61\00:18:47.51 before they got there, is going to be shown to them 00:18:47.55\00:18:49.54 when they get to the Church... 00:18:49.57\00:18:50.85 Wow, that, again... that's a wonderful thing... 00:18:50.88\00:18:55.29 because, that word "intentional" that word "intentional" 00:18:55.33\00:18:59.47 is so important... because this is not haphazard... 00:18:59.51\00:19:02.35 this is not random... this is part of a plan... 00:19:02.39\00:19:05.19 you build relationships, 00:19:05.23\00:19:06.74 why? because there's trust there... 00:19:06.78\00:19:09.02 if they can trust you... then, they can trust 00:19:09.06\00:19:13.11 your opinion on what's good, what's not... 00:19:13.14\00:19:16.46 and then... your opinion can lead them 00:19:16.50\00:19:19.66 to the ultimate opinion, which is the Word... 00:19:19.69\00:19:23.30 so, I mean, you know, because you're... 00:19:23.34\00:19:25.50 hopefully, everything that you're leading them to 00:19:25.53\00:19:27.98 is ultimately leading them to the Word of God 00:19:28.01\00:19:30.56 and that is... that's a critical thing... 00:19:30.59\00:19:33.39 Yes... it is... So, are you find that 00:19:33.42\00:19:36.15 people are sharing the Harbor of Hope Program 00:19:36.18\00:19:41.21 with others in their Community telling them about it 00:19:41.24\00:19:44.55 and then... bringing more children 00:19:44.59\00:19:47.35 in to the Program... is it growing? 00:19:47.39\00:19:50.08 Definitely... definitely... it's definitely growing 00:19:50.11\00:19:52.59 and we started out with one bus 00:19:52.63\00:19:55.12 and we had to go to two buses 00:19:55.15\00:19:57.58 and these are school buses that are picking kids up 00:19:57.61\00:20:01.22 and what happens... when a child likes something... 00:20:01.25\00:20:04.98 when anyone like something... you end up telling 00:20:05.01\00:20:07.64 people about it... Yes... 00:20:07.67\00:20:09.05 and then when you communicate it with that passion 00:20:09.09\00:20:12.07 and that vigor... what happens is that 00:20:12.10\00:20:14.41 individuals want to experience it themselves... 00:20:14.45\00:20:16.35 Yes... that's what happens 00:20:16.39\00:20:18.87 with us being intentional about our relationships 00:20:18.90\00:20:21.20 that we're building with the kids and the parents 00:20:21.23\00:20:23.72 individuals are saying, "Yes, this is something good, 00:20:23.76\00:20:26.22 this is something real, this is something different... 00:20:26.25\00:20:27.92 that we've never experienced before... 00:20:27.95\00:20:29.60 Exactly... this is what makes Harbor of Hope different... 00:20:29.63\00:20:33.98 Yes... because it's not just a Church, 00:20:34.01\00:20:36.58 that's open every Saturday, Hmmm... hmmm... 00:20:36.62\00:20:39.92 this Church is open... how many days of the week 00:20:39.96\00:20:42.94 do you do your various programs? 00:20:42.97\00:20:45.60 We have a Thursday, a Friday, 00:20:45.63\00:20:49.39 Sabbath of course, 00:20:49.43\00:20:51.69 and then... we have a Sunday... and then there's visitation 00:20:51.72\00:20:54.57 even throughout the week... 00:20:54.60\00:20:55.78 where we're going into the homes 00:20:55.81\00:20:58.53 even if we're not visiting the parents, so to speak, 00:20:58.56\00:21:01.55 we're visiting the kids... and we're saying, 00:21:01.59\00:21:02.75 "Hey, how's your week going, do you need help with anything?" 00:21:02.78\00:21:04.89 and that's where the Mentoring Program comes in 00:21:04.92\00:21:06.77 that takes us outside of just the Sabbath 00:21:06.81\00:21:10.69 and the other Programs, and it's like, 00:21:10.73\00:21:12.37 "Hey, we're going to also help you with School... 00:21:12.40\00:21:14.16 we want you to be successful in School, 00:21:14.19\00:21:15.81 we want you to dream big, we want you to become 00:21:15.84\00:21:17.86 doctors and lawyers, and we're going to show you 00:21:17.90\00:21:19.84 how to do that... " Yes... yes... let's talk a 00:21:19.88\00:21:21.96 little bit about that Mentoring Program, 00:21:21.99\00:21:25.04 do you have... are there Church members 00:21:25.07\00:21:27.98 that are volunteering to do the mentoring 00:21:28.02\00:21:30.94 do you bring in people from the Community, 00:21:30.98\00:21:33.87 how does that work? It's a variety, 00:21:33.90\00:21:36.32 we have, of course, we're not that far from Andrews University 00:21:36.36\00:21:39.63 so, there are individuals... students from Andrews University 00:21:39.67\00:21:42.91 that come out and help, they help with the practical... 00:21:42.94\00:21:46.74 because a lot of these kids are in High School 00:21:46.78\00:21:49.11 and they want to go to College, 00:21:49.15\00:21:50.18 and it's like, "Okay, if you want to go 00:21:50.21\00:21:51.28 to College, this is what you need to do... " 00:21:51.31\00:21:52.36 we have Church members, we have individuals 00:21:52.40\00:21:55.51 from the Community that are all coming together, 00:21:55.54\00:21:57.94 as a team, as a family, and we'll say, 00:21:57.98\00:22:00.05 "Okay, if this is what you want to do... we're going to 00:22:00.09\00:22:02.90 walk along with you and we're going to help you achieve 00:22:02.94\00:22:05.72 your goals... " That is wonderful! 00:22:05.75\00:22:08.17 so how many different Programs 00:22:08.20\00:22:11.15 do you have running... with Harbor of Hope? 00:22:11.18\00:22:13.90 We have 00:22:13.93\00:22:16.70 5 Programs... at the moment... 5 Programs... yes... 00:22:16.73\00:22:19.90 Wow, would you name them for us? 00:22:19.93\00:22:21.15 That's the T and L... which is the Open Gym Basketball 00:22:21.19\00:22:25.82 on Thursday nights... Kids' Zone which is taking 00:22:25.86\00:22:29.24 the Church to the Community on Friday and Sabbaths... 00:22:29.27\00:22:32.72 then we have the regular Harbor of Hope Programs, 00:22:32.75\00:22:36.74 we have SOTC and there's another one that I'm missing 00:22:36.77\00:22:40.72 that I know is going to come to me 00:22:40.76\00:22:43.05 a little later... 00:22:43.08\00:22:44.92 That's okay... what's SOTC... what's that? 00:22:44.96\00:22:46.77 That's the mentoring... that's "Soldiers of the Cross" 00:22:46.81\00:22:49.29 Oh... nice... nice... nice... 00:22:49.32\00:22:52.93 Are you finding that children and young people 00:22:52.97\00:22:56.07 are open to getting baptized... 00:22:56.10\00:22:58.37 are they excited about it 00:22:58.41\00:23:00.64 are people doing it, 00:23:00.67\00:23:02.83 what's happening with the baptisms? 00:23:02.87\00:23:04.42 There are baptisms, it's a little difficult 00:23:04.46\00:23:07.73 because we're dealing with children... 00:23:07.77\00:23:09.03 but we've had... we always end... every service 00:23:09.06\00:23:13.91 with an appeal... there's an appeal 00:23:13.94\00:23:15.49 for individuals to come forward, even when we go 00:23:15.52\00:23:18.30 to the Community... or even talking about baptism, 00:23:18.34\00:23:21.09 we're letting kids know that there is a God 00:23:21.12\00:23:23.63 that loves you... that created you... 00:23:23.67\00:23:25.55 and He wants you to spend eternity with Him... 00:23:25.58\00:23:28.68 even in the SOTC Program there are children 00:23:28.72\00:23:31.75 that have been in the Church 00:23:31.78\00:23:32.89 and they've gone to Bible Studies 00:23:32.92\00:23:34.55 and they've been baptized so on every front 00:23:34.58\00:23:37.37 there's an opportunity and there are individuals 00:23:37.41\00:23:39.91 that have actually have been baptized 00:23:39.95\00:23:41.74 through interacting with the Program... 00:23:41.78\00:23:43.94 That's great... what is your vision 00:23:43.98\00:23:46.07 for Harbor of Hope... what do you hope to achieve 00:23:46.10\00:23:50.37 through this Ministry? 00:23:50.41\00:23:52.10 Excellent question... and like I said earlier, 00:23:52.13\00:23:55.93 I've been taught to dream big, I have a friend who says, 00:23:55.97\00:24:00.23 "We serve a big God... and as a result 00:24:00.27\00:24:02.92 we need to start asking Him for big things... " 00:24:02.96\00:24:05.13 so, what I look at in Harbor of Hope is 00:24:05.17\00:24:07.90 I say that... in the next couple of years 00:24:07.94\00:24:10.60 what we are going to do is get more acquainted 00:24:10.64\00:24:12.33 with the people in the Community, 00:24:12.37\00:24:13.57 what individuals are going to start to see 00:24:13.61\00:24:15.49 because there are kids that have grown up 00:24:15.53\00:24:17.35 through Harbor of Hope, that are now... 00:24:17.38\00:24:18.80 on their way to College and what they're going to see 00:24:18.83\00:24:22.03 is that through this Program, through this Church 00:24:22.06\00:24:25.22 and through the other activities, 00:24:25.26\00:24:26.52 the kids come here, they get motivated... 00:24:26.55\00:24:28.51 they get encouraged to be great... 00:24:28.55\00:24:30.40 and what's happening is... they're not just receiving 00:24:30.44\00:24:32.77 the encouragement, but they are actually 00:24:32.81\00:24:34.66 applying it... and then the parents 00:24:34.69\00:24:36.51 are also... seeing change 00:24:36.55\00:24:39.18 where they're making differences in their jobs 00:24:39.21\00:24:41.46 and making differences in the Schools 00:24:41.50\00:24:43.04 that they go to... there are a lot of things 00:24:43.08\00:24:45.50 that are happening right now, what I see is that 00:24:45.53\00:24:48.02 Harbor of Hope is going to be that "Beacon of Hope" 00:24:48.06\00:24:50.51 for Benton Harbor that is going to change 00:24:50.55\00:24:53.02 the trajectory of this City... 00:24:53.06\00:24:54.60 Wow... that would be so wonderful... 00:24:54.63\00:24:58.45 and I say "Would" but it "Will be" 00:24:58.48\00:25:01.40 because that is the plan... Yes... yes... 00:25:01.43\00:25:05.10 that is the Divine Plan... that Harbor of Hope 00:25:05.13\00:25:08.98 is actually a "Harbor of Light" 00:25:09.02\00:25:10.70 in a dark place... Yes... 00:25:10.74\00:25:12.82 and so... 00:25:12.85\00:25:14.45 that is a wonderful thing 00:25:14.49\00:25:16.92 What would you like our Viewers to know 00:25:16.96\00:25:21.08 about their circumstances, and the lives 00:25:21.11\00:25:25.20 that they are living now... what would you tell... 00:25:25.24\00:25:28.03 Viewers that are caught up in negative lifestyles... 00:25:28.06\00:25:30.81 like you were at 17... 00:25:30.85\00:25:32.41 what would you say to that Viewer? 00:25:32.44\00:25:34.55 To the Viewer... I would say... 00:25:34.58\00:25:36.70 "I've been where you are... a lot of times 00:25:36.74\00:25:39.31 you hear messages from individuals 00:25:39.35\00:25:40.94 and they're telling you what you should or shouldn't do 00:25:40.97\00:25:42.81 and these individuals haven't necessarily 00:25:42.85\00:25:44.96 walked in your shoes... you feel but I've been there... 00:25:44.99\00:25:47.54 and I fully understand where you're coming from 00:25:47.57\00:25:49.63 I understand how you feel, 00:25:49.67\00:25:50.74 I understand that... 00:25:50.78\00:25:51.89 in those nights when you are alone... 00:25:51.93\00:25:53.88 and you're in your room and you're not happy, 00:25:53.91\00:25:56.44 with what you're experiencing, 00:25:56.48\00:25:57.86 and what I want you to know is that there's a happiness 00:25:57.90\00:26:00.95 for you... and that happiness is found 00:26:00.99\00:26:02.89 in Jesus Christ... find someone in your Community 00:26:02.93\00:26:05.83 that's a model... a model of positive things 00:26:05.86\00:26:09.08 not negative things... and attach yourself to them... 00:26:09.11\00:26:11.79 attach yourself to the Bible and start reading the Word, 00:26:11.82\00:26:14.46 find in your Church... someone who cares about you 00:26:14.50\00:26:17.46 and loves you and that will help you 00:26:17.50\00:26:19.41 to understand those things in the Bible 00:26:19.44\00:26:21.28 that don't make sense... and gradually what will happen 00:26:21.32\00:26:24.29 through your prayers, through your efforts 00:26:24.32\00:26:26.41 is that God will start to mold you 00:26:26.44\00:26:28.47 and grow you into the young man 00:26:28.50\00:26:30.38 or young woman that you would like to be... 00:26:30.41\00:26:33.10 Wow... God has a plan for you... 00:26:33.14\00:26:35.29 and you need to experience it... 00:26:35.33\00:26:37.42 you need to see it and you'll be happy 00:26:37.45\00:26:40.02 when you do... Amen... thank you so much Keith, 00:26:40.06\00:26:42.50 tell our Viewers how they can reach you... 00:26:42.54\00:26:44.78 what's your contact information... 00:26:44.82\00:26:46.10 My contact information is... keithhackle@yahoo. com 00:26:46.13\00:26:51.98 or you can send us an e-mail to harborofhope@gmail. com 00:26:52.02\00:26:57.83 All right... and your website? 00:26:57.87\00:27:00.14 The Website is... 00:27:00.17\00:27:01.89 harborofhopesda. org 00:27:01.93\00:27:08.12 and or dot com 00:27:08.16\00:27:16.46 Okay... that's great... thank you so much... 00:27:16.49\00:27:19.45 thank you for being with us, for sharing your vision 00:27:19.49\00:27:23.44 and your Ministry with us, we so appreciate 00:27:23.47\00:27:25.87 all that you do for the cause of Christ... 00:27:25.90\00:27:28.23 Harbor of Hope Ministries is doing great things 00:27:28.26\00:27:32.18 for the Lord... this is so important 00:27:32.22\00:27:35.23 because... really... wherever you're planted... 00:27:35.26\00:27:37.97 you can do... great things... 00:27:38.00\00:27:40.15 there is something in you... that wants more... 00:27:40.18\00:27:44.09 and God has something better for you... 00:27:44.13\00:27:47.56 so just focus on Him... and ask Him 00:27:47.60\00:27:50.94 what is His plan for you? 00:27:50.97\00:27:52.58 Well, we've reached the end of another Program, 00:27:52.62\00:27:55.29 thanks for tuning in... join us next time... 00:27:55.33\00:27:57.97 because it just wouldn't be the same... 00:27:58.00\00:27:59.82 without you... 00:27:59.85\00:28:01.43