Do you want to meet some young men 00:00:01.06\00:00:02.38 that are doing great things for Christ in Media? 00:00:02.42\00:00:05.00 Well, stay tuned because they're right here 00:00:05.03\00:00:07.50 in the Studio with me today... 00:00:07.53\00:00:08.97 My name is Yvonne Lewis, and you're watching... 00:00:09.00\00:00:11.71 Urban Report... 00:00:11.75\00:00:12.95 Hello and welcome to Urban Report... 00:00:33.53\00:00:35.95 Today our Program features two young men 00:00:35.98\00:00:38.34 that are using Media to reach the world for Jesus Christ 00:00:38.37\00:00:41.58 Ryan St. Hillaire and Benjamin Middleton 00:00:41.62\00:00:44.60 of UnScene Media Group, Inc. are here... 00:00:44.64\00:00:47.52 in the studio with us today... 00:00:47.56\00:00:49.06 Welcome to Urban Report Ryan and Ben... yeah... 00:00:49.10\00:00:52.82 Give me your hand Ben... good to have you here... 00:00:52.85\00:00:56.54 So, tell me... okay... first let's find out 00:00:56.57\00:01:00.19 a little bit about who you guys are... 00:01:00.22\00:01:02.39 Let's start with you Ryan, you're the Executive Director 00:01:02.42\00:01:05.60 of UnScene Media Group, where are you from originally 00:01:05.63\00:01:09.27 That's a good question, it really depends on what year 00:01:09.30\00:01:12.90 your asking me... I grew up in Canada 00:01:12.93\00:01:15.62 Okay... Toronto area... 00:01:15.65\00:01:17.20 and I went to School at Andrews University, 00:01:17.23\00:01:21.17 and since I graduated there well, basically, 00:01:21.21\00:01:25.11 since I graduated we've been involved 00:01:25.15\00:01:27.07 in full-time ministry. 00:01:27.11\00:01:28.42 Wow, that's wonderful... and we're going to find out 00:01:28.45\00:01:31.64 a lot about that ministry in a second 00:01:31.68\00:01:33.55 so you're originally from Canada 00:01:33.59\00:01:34.98 Yeah... but did you move away from there 00:01:35.01\00:01:38.06 did you move to the States or did you grow up there as well 00:01:38.10\00:01:40.67 Well, since I moved... when I went to School obviously 00:01:40.70\00:01:43.63 we moved down to Michigan, and I've been in the States 00:01:43.67\00:01:46.56 ever since... pretty much... and I've lived 00:01:46.60\00:01:49.34 in different places... I have lived in West Virginia 00:01:49.38\00:01:53.75 for a year... lived in basically 00:01:53.78\00:01:57.23 staying in Texas right now, Ah... 00:01:57.26\00:01:59.74 and so, I've been all over the place... 00:01:59.77\00:02:02.69 Okay, all right Ryan... and what about you Ben? 00:02:02.73\00:02:05.75 Well, I was born and raised in Dayton, Ohio 00:02:05.78\00:02:08.81 and then I spent a few years traveling... 00:02:08.85\00:02:11.81 I spent a year in West Virginia where we actually met, 00:02:11.84\00:02:14.80 I spent a couple of years in Michigan 00:02:14.83\00:02:16.50 and now I'm currently border-hopping between 00:02:16.53\00:02:19.43 here and Canada where my wife is... 00:02:19.47\00:02:21.16 Oh... okay... okay... and are you married 00:02:21.20\00:02:24.19 as well Ryan? No... 00:02:24.22\00:02:25.40 Okay, so we have one bachelor and one married... 00:02:25.43\00:02:28.22 You have any children, Ben? No, I just got married 00:02:28.25\00:02:30.78 about 7 months ago... Oh, you're a newlywed... 00:02:30.82\00:02:33.31 Oh, that's sweet... that's sweet... 00:02:33.35\00:02:35.28 so, have you guys always been involved in Media? 00:02:35.31\00:02:38.54 Tell us how you got involved in Media... 00:02:38.57\00:02:40.77 Yeah... it's for me... I mean, and we both have stories 00:02:40.80\00:02:44.51 but I've always been interested in Media... 00:02:44.55\00:02:48.02 Production... 00:02:48.05\00:02:49.21 that sort of thing from the time that I was little 00:02:49.24\00:02:51.77 I remember 00:02:51.81\00:02:53.68 getting together on Sabbaths 00:02:53.71\00:02:56.07 with my cousins... we'd be putting together 00:02:56.10\00:02:57.71 our little corny plays and we'd be giving out tickets 00:02:57.74\00:03:01.54 to all of our parents and getting them to come 00:03:01.58\00:03:04.56 and watch our plays and be making little movies 00:03:04.60\00:03:07.51 with the Legos... Lego Star wars and all sorts of things 00:03:07.54\00:03:11.13 and so I've always had an interest in Media 00:03:11.17\00:03:14.33 so I can't really say that it started at a particular time 00:03:14.36\00:03:18.25 Yeah... yeah... it sounds as though 00:03:18.29\00:03:21.04 that is part of God's divine plan for you 00:03:21.08\00:03:24.48 and it started really early... 00:03:24.51\00:03:25.69 What about you Ben? Well, it's kind of 00:03:25.72\00:03:27.65 the same story for me... as long as I can remember 00:03:27.69\00:03:30.85 we loved media 00:03:30.89\00:03:32.29 when I was a kid... we used to listen to 00:03:32.32\00:03:34.44 old-time Radio from the 1930s and 40s 00:03:34.47\00:03:36.56 and so we loved it so much that we tried to make our 00:03:36.60\00:03:38.97 own radio shows using cassette tapes... 00:03:39.01\00:03:40.83 do you remember cassette tapes? 00:03:40.87\00:03:42.28 Oh, wow, you're taking us back... 00:03:42.32\00:03:43.66 doing multi-track editing and 00:03:43.70\00:03:47.49 then we got into 00:03:47.53\00:03:48.58 making silent films... because that was the next best 00:03:48.62\00:03:51.66 thing... Charlie Chaplin was my hero 00:03:51.70\00:03:53.81 and after that... my brother and I 00:03:53.84\00:03:55.80 kind of got into making short films... 00:03:55.84\00:03:58.06 and then I said, "You know what... 00:03:58.10\00:04:00.25 if I have some desire to do something with media, 00:04:00.29\00:04:03.07 let me do it for God... and from there 00:04:03.10\00:04:05.26 until now... it's been total application to 00:04:05.30\00:04:08.92 Media Ministry... I love seeing young people 00:04:08.95\00:04:12.54 that are on fire for God... 00:04:12.58\00:04:14.24 because, with all of the things that the world has, 00:04:14.28\00:04:17.52 it just often sucks our young people in... 00:04:17.55\00:04:20.66 and with you guys being missionaries 00:04:20.70\00:04:24.42 for the Lord through Media 00:04:24.45\00:04:26.51 but you've actually gone to other countries 00:04:26.54\00:04:29.53 and done missionary work... 00:04:29.57\00:04:30.70 tell us a little bit about that... 00:04:30.73\00:04:31.78 Well, I actually always wanted to go on a mission trip 00:04:31.82\00:04:36.39 and to then record it and then bring it back... 00:04:36.42\00:04:39.54 because I remember, several years ago, 00:04:39.57\00:04:41.13 my sister went on a mission trip to Zambia 00:04:41.16\00:04:42.97 and she came back and she was telling all the 00:04:43.00\00:04:44.78 mission stories of how 00:04:44.81\00:04:46.08 they were working with the children 00:04:46.11\00:04:47.92 and all the appeals that were made 00:04:47.96\00:04:49.97 and the decisions that were made 00:04:50.00\00:04:51.94 the baptisms... and I thought to myself 00:04:51.98\00:04:53.78 "You know what? there's got to be something 00:04:53.81\00:04:55.58 even greater than the story... 00:04:55.61\00:04:57.66 if people could see it, instead of hearing it... 00:04:57.69\00:04:59.52 it would change people's lives... 00:04:59.55\00:05:00.88 and so, the next year 00:05:00.91\00:05:02.48 I had an opportunity to go to Zimbabwe... 00:05:02.52\00:05:04.10 and on that trip... 00:05:04.13\00:05:05.82 it changed my life completely... 00:05:05.86\00:05:08.10 How, how did it change your life? 00:05:08.13\00:05:10.74 Well, I realized that I really don't need much of anything 00:05:10.78\00:05:13.80 to exist... we were out there 00:05:13.83\00:05:15.35 and these people have... almost nothing... 00:05:15.39\00:05:17.48 you know, they live in their little huts, 00:05:17.51\00:05:19.57 and they eat their food everyday... 00:05:19.61\00:05:21.57 and they sleep on the ground... 00:05:21.61\00:05:23.79 and we were out there with them... 00:05:23.83\00:05:26.32 and we're out bathing... in the cold wind... 00:05:26.35\00:05:30.08 I remember soaping up the wind blows 00:05:30.11\00:05:33.10 20-miles-per-hour wind... 00:05:33.13\00:05:34.17 I don't care what the temperature is... 00:05:34.21\00:05:35.61 with 20-miles-per-hour winds, you get really cold... 00:05:35.64\00:05:37.79 and so we were out there and I recognized... 00:05:37.82\00:05:41.75 "You know what? this is a serious mission... 00:05:41.79\00:05:44.28 this isn't like building a church in Hawaii... 00:05:44.32\00:05:49.05 this is a really dirty mission" you know... 00:05:49.09\00:05:52.06 and as I was recognizing this is what 00:05:52.09\00:05:54.34 God is calling all of us to do... 00:05:54.38\00:05:56.56 to make sacrifices for the Kingdom of God... 00:05:56.60\00:05:58.53 I recognized, "Man, let me take 00:05:58.57\00:06:01.32 my relationship with God to the next level... " 00:06:01.36\00:06:03.80 and so, from there until now, I've decided that 00:06:03.84\00:06:06.25 full-time ministry is the way to go... 00:06:06.28\00:06:07.82 Oh, that is just wonderful... 00:06:07.86\00:06:09.66 Let me just say something about the trip... 00:06:09.69\00:06:11.23 yeah... I remember us talking about 00:06:11.26\00:06:12.69 a little bit before you went on the trip and 00:06:12.73\00:06:15.47 you know, I thought it was a good idea... 00:06:15.51\00:06:18.87 but I didn't really see the whole picture of 00:06:18.90\00:06:21.57 everything... but afterwards when you came 00:06:21.60\00:06:24.20 back with the footage, I mean, I was really amazed 00:06:24.23\00:06:26.57 at what you came back with... 00:06:26.61\00:06:28.27 Hmmm... but even then... 00:06:28.30\00:06:29.58 it didn't really hit me until afterwards 00:06:29.61\00:06:31.47 when we finished the production, hearing the stories 00:06:31.50\00:06:34.82 of people that had watched the DVD, 00:06:34.86\00:06:36.47 and it's just... it really had such a big impact 00:06:36.50\00:06:40.13 on their life... and they actually had 00:06:40.17\00:06:42.71 missionaries... that decided to become 00:06:42.75\00:06:45.22 missionaries because they had watched the film... 00:06:45.26\00:06:47.03 As a result of the film... 00:06:47.07\00:06:48.11 so that was really cool... Wow... 00:06:48.14\00:06:49.96 That's wonderful and is this the Docudrama... 00:06:50.00\00:06:53.96 Yes... Is it like a Documentary? 00:06:54.00\00:06:55.79 You want to hold it... Yeah... hold it up... 00:06:55.82\00:06:58.23 I think you're covering up 00:06:58.27\00:07:00.86 Zimbabwe... there we go... 00:07:00.89\00:07:03.41 This is a documentary "Zimbabwe" 00:07:03.45\00:07:05.36 I think it's... how long is it? 00:07:05.39\00:07:07.24 It's about an hour... It's about an hour... 00:07:07.27\00:07:09.98 and it covers 3 teams of missionaries... 00:07:10.01\00:07:12.68 in Zimbabwe who went... 00:07:12.72\00:07:14.51 I mean we were sometimes 00:07:14.54\00:07:16.26 hiking 8 hours a day... to give Bible Studies to people 00:07:16.29\00:07:18.98 people were upset because, "Oh you go to their house, 00:07:19.01\00:07:21.66 why didn't you come to our house?" 00:07:21.70\00:07:23.83 you know... sometimes 20 miles a day 00:07:23.86\00:07:25.78 on foot... it was extensive 00:07:25.81\00:07:28.16 but people were hungry for the gospel... 00:07:28.20\00:07:30.15 Yes... it was really life changing... 00:07:30.19\00:07:31.88 That's so wonderful, in fact, praise the Lord, 00:07:31.91\00:07:34.61 we're going to be showing this... hopefully 00:07:34.65\00:07:37.31 on Dare to Dream... Praise the Lord... 00:07:37.34\00:07:39.26 So, that will be wonderful, so Viewers... 00:07:39.29\00:07:41.18 watch out for it... it's... 00:07:41.21\00:07:43.37 "Zimbabwe... this soil also" 00:07:43.40\00:07:45.53 and we're going to be showing this DVD 00:07:45.56\00:07:47.91 on Dare to Dream... Lord willing... 00:07:47.95\00:07:52.03 So, again, it's unusual for me to meet 00:07:52.07\00:07:56.51 young missionaries, and I'm loving this... 00:07:56.55\00:08:00.07 because you can be a missionary 00:08:00.10\00:08:01.43 and go to a foreign country, 00:08:01.47\00:08:02.73 you can be a missionary right here... 00:08:02.76\00:08:05.12 and so, tell us about UnScene... 00:08:05.15\00:08:07.30 Where did that name come from... 00:08:07.34\00:08:09.42 where did UnScene Media Group come from? 00:08:09.46\00:08:12.20 Okay... that's an interesting story... 00:08:12.24\00:08:14.95 we often joke about it and say that, 00:08:14.99\00:08:17.47 "We're called UnScene because nobody has ever 00:08:17.51\00:08:20.23 seen our stuff... " That was before... 00:08:20.27\00:08:24.28 that was before... And often times we find 00:08:24.31\00:08:27.97 ourselves working with "unseen budgets" as well... 00:08:28.01\00:08:30.31 We understand that here as well... 00:08:30.34\00:08:35.16 More realistically though 00:08:35.20\00:08:37.24 the name, didn't come to us very... you know... 00:08:37.27\00:08:41.76 just off the top of our head... we were deliberating 00:08:41.80\00:08:44.93 over a name for weeks probably about a month, maybe... 00:08:44.97\00:08:48.98 Hmmm... hmmm... and just praying about it 00:08:49.01\00:08:51.09 because we wanted to find something 00:08:51.13\00:08:53.33 that was based on a Bible Verse... 00:08:53.37\00:08:56.11 Hmmm... you know, Scripturally based 00:08:56.14\00:08:58.60 but also... that was kind of fun though 00:08:58.63\00:09:01.02 we could... kind of... have a play on words... 00:09:01.05\00:09:02.59 Hmmm... and so, finally, we came up 00:09:02.63\00:09:05.43 with the name... well, we came up with 00:09:05.47\00:09:08.20 the idea of "Scene" because "Scene" could be spelled 00:09:08.23\00:09:10.58 either way... see on the T-Shirt 00:09:10.62\00:09:12.43 it's spelled "SCENE" Yes.. 00:09:12.46\00:09:14.32 and when you're dealing with television... 00:09:14.35\00:09:17.64 a "Scene" is basically what you see... 00:09:17.68\00:09:20.93 Right... every time you turn on 00:09:20.97\00:09:22.14 your television... Right... 00:09:22.18\00:09:23.28 and so, we played with that and we found a verse 00:09:23.31\00:09:27.27 in 2 Corinthians 4:18 that basically says that 00:09:27.30\00:09:31.23 "We fix our eyes not on what is seen, 00:09:31.26\00:09:33.86 but on what is unseen" Come on now... 00:09:33.90\00:09:36.27 because what is "seen" is temporary... 00:09:36.31\00:09:38.64 but what is "unseen" is eternal 00:09:38.68\00:09:41.09 I think we can get ready to have a little Church 00:09:41.13\00:09:43.17 up in here now... I love it... 00:09:43.20\00:09:45.26 Preach now... I know... Preach... I love it... 00:09:45.29\00:09:48.06 That's beautiful... That's the mission of what we're 00:09:48.09\00:09:50.73 doing... basically is turning the eyes and the hearts 00:09:50.76\00:09:53.33 of people to "unseen realities" the things that are unseen... 00:09:53.36\00:09:57.44 Yes... but by using CDs... 00:09:57.47\00:09:59.90 Yes... and you've been able to 00:09:59.93\00:10:02.29 what I love about your work and what I have seen 00:10:02.32\00:10:05.73 "Scene" is that... it's fresh and it's new 00:10:05.77\00:10:12.70 and it's cutting edge... you know... 00:10:12.74\00:10:14.48 it's not just some boring presentation 00:10:14.52\00:10:16.19 in fact... we have a little clip of your "War Plans" trailer 00:10:16.23\00:10:21.11 that you've done... and we'll put it up in a second 00:10:21.15\00:10:25.43 but it's fresh and it's edgy, you know, 00:10:25.47\00:10:29.51 you guys bring this whole other deal... 00:10:29.54\00:10:33.51 you bring your youth, you bring the whole contemporary 00:10:33.55\00:10:37.19 mind-set to what you do, and so, 00:10:37.22\00:10:39.85 this is really a blessing... 00:10:39.89\00:10:41.30 Set up... our little clip for us if you would... 00:10:41.34\00:10:45.07 Okay... definitely... the "War Plans" Project 00:10:45.10\00:10:48.91 one of the elements of the "War Plans" Project 00:10:48.94\00:10:52.72 includes these videos which are basically 00:10:52.75\00:10:55.16 they're short... kind of devotional thoughts... 00:10:55.19\00:10:57.57 they're about 8 to 10 minutes each... 00:10:57.60\00:10:59.08 and the ideas we want to bring... to people 00:10:59.12\00:11:02.04 different topics of "Spiritual Warfare" 00:11:02.08\00:11:04.97 and make it... so practical... 00:11:05.00\00:11:06.90 that somebody can just pop in a DVD... 00:11:06.93\00:11:09.00 watch the presentation, go through... a Study Guide 00:11:09.04\00:11:12.43 each presentation comes with a Study Guide 00:11:12.46\00:11:14.57 and walk away with it... with things that they can do 00:11:14.61\00:11:18.33 right away... that day... 00:11:18.36\00:11:19.89 that moment to increase their effectiveness 00:11:19.92\00:11:22.76 in the spiritual battles that they face every day... 00:11:22.80\00:11:24.86 that's wonderful... now, and I'm glad you said 00:11:24.90\00:11:27.20 "Spiritual Battles" because there are some people 00:11:27.23\00:11:29.50 who are watching... who don't know 00:11:29.53\00:11:31.40 what "Spiritual Warfare" is... what is it? 00:11:31.44\00:11:36.36 Spiritual Warfare is basically you know, 00:11:36.39\00:11:41.24 Ephesians 6:12 says that "we wrestle not against 00:11:41.27\00:11:43.47 flesh and blood, but against principalities 00:11:43.51\00:11:45.89 against powers... against the rulers of darkness 00:11:45.93\00:11:48.33 in high places... " 00:11:48.36\00:11:49.45 Hmmm... hmmm... you know, every time that we 00:11:49.49\00:11:52.56 walk out of the door... the enemy is trying to 00:11:52.60\00:11:55.64 capture our hears and our minds... 00:11:55.68\00:11:57.07 Who is our enemy? The enemy is the Devil... Satan 00:11:57.10\00:11:59.94 Hmmm... hmmm... and he is basically... 00:11:59.97\00:12:03.22 we're in a great controversy, and if the enemy 00:12:03.26\00:12:06.40 can capture our hearts... have our affections... 00:12:06.43\00:12:09.54 have us pre-occupied with things 00:12:09.57\00:12:12.70 that will distract us from God, then... he is winning the battle 00:12:12.73\00:12:16.39 for our souls... so, even distraction... 00:12:16.43\00:12:19.10 then are issues... and the reason why I'm having 00:12:19.13\00:12:22.08 you say these things is because again... 00:12:22.12\00:12:24.24 many of our viewers might not be familiar with 00:12:24.27\00:12:27.68 some of our terms 00:12:27.71\00:12:29.04 that we just kind of use as we talk... 00:12:29.07\00:12:32.06 Hmmm... hmmm... so, you're saying then... 00:12:32.10\00:12:34.63 that every day... as we leave home... 00:12:34.66\00:12:38.02 the enemy has distractions for us... 00:12:38.06\00:12:41.35 the enemy has things that he wants to use 00:12:41.39\00:12:43.39 to pull us away from God... Hmmm... hmmm... 00:12:43.42\00:12:46.81 this gives us some tactics some strategies 00:12:46.84\00:12:50.16 that we can use... Actually, tactics is just one of 00:12:50.20\00:12:54.10 of the categories I don't know if you can 00:12:54.13\00:12:57.23 see inside of here... we have 4 Categories 00:12:57.26\00:13:00.32 that we put together... okay... 00:13:00.36\00:13:01.76 Tactics are basically how we engage the enemy 00:13:01.79\00:13:07.14 how we engage in the spiritual battles 00:13:07.18\00:13:09.96 that we have to face every day... 00:13:10.00\00:13:11.10 Hmmm... hmmm... we have another Category 00:13:11.13\00:13:13.00 that's called Munitions... Munitions are basically 00:13:13.03\00:13:15.54 the weapons of our warfare... what is it that we use 00:13:15.57\00:13:18.04 to engage in these spiritual battles 00:13:18.07\00:13:20.95 that we face everyday... 00:13:20.99\00:13:22.03 Hmmm... hmmm... We have Reconnaissance 00:13:22.07\00:13:26.20 Reconnaissance is about knowing the enemy... 00:13:26.24\00:13:28.71 knowing the arsenal of tools that he has 00:13:28.75\00:13:31.14 to capture our hearts and our minds... 00:13:31.18\00:13:33.50 to capture our affections basically 00:13:33.54\00:13:36.79 and then the last category is Terrain... 00:13:36.83\00:13:40.02 this is my favorite... That's why it is great to have 00:13:40.05\00:13:42.91 partners right, you guys can work with each other. 00:13:42.94\00:13:45.74 That's great! Terrain is... you can share your thoughts 00:13:45.77\00:13:47.95 Well "Terrain" is looking at where are the battles 00:13:47.98\00:13:51.00 being fought... because ultimately, 00:13:51.04\00:13:52.89 we have to recognize 00:13:52.92\00:13:54.00 we're in the middle of a war... the war between good and evil 00:13:54.04\00:13:56.94 right and wrong, heaven and hell, 00:13:56.97\00:13:58.37 God and the Devil... Hmmm... 00:13:58.41\00:14:00.12 and the battle is over us... Hmmm... 00:14:00.16\00:14:03.24 so, depending on who controls the terrain... 00:14:03.27\00:14:06.20 they gain advantages... you know... 00:14:06.24\00:14:08.32 just like in a war... if you get to high ground 00:14:08.35\00:14:10.28 and you have advantage over the person on the lower ground, 00:14:10.31\00:14:12.84 in the same way... the battlefield for us 00:14:12.87\00:14:15.03 is the mind... Hmmm... 00:14:15.06\00:14:16.31 and whoever maintains the possession of the mind, 00:14:16.35\00:14:19.10 gets all the benefits that that terrain has to offer 00:14:19.14\00:14:21.86 whether it's for good or for evil... 00:14:21.89\00:14:23.64 Ah... so then... what you're saying is that 00:14:23.68\00:14:27.54 there is a battle... over winning you... 00:14:27.58\00:14:31.37 Hmmm... hmmm... somebody is going to win you... 00:14:31.41\00:14:34.63 Absolutely... who is it going to be? 00:14:34.67\00:14:36.63 Right? Let's take a look at this clip 00:14:36.66\00:14:38.60 that you guys did, with "War Plans" 00:14:38.63\00:14:40.53 If any man be in Christ he is a New Creation 00:14:48.98\00:14:53.61 we've all heard this said before... 00:14:53.64\00:14:55.82 but what does it really mean to have a contest 00:14:55.86\00:14:59.06 between a police officer in a uniform 00:14:59.09\00:15:01.48 versus... a random dude on the street? 00:15:01.52\00:15:03.84 Our identity as Christians is sort of like... 00:15:03.87\00:15:06.76 the officer's uniform... only... what we wear... 00:15:06.80\00:15:09.65 is more than just a uniform 00:15:09.69\00:15:11.74 it didn't help these guys out either... 00:15:11.77\00:15:13.59 we are told that the demons 00:15:13.62\00:15:16.07 spoke through the man and said 00:15:16.11\00:15:18.49 there are 3 basic steps that we need 00:15:18.52\00:15:20.69 to put on our new identity they are... 00:15:20.73\00:15:24.43 Claim... Renounce... and Live... 00:15:24.46\00:15:32.53 Wow... that's a tease... right there... 00:15:33.14\00:15:35.85 because now... you want to see more... 00:15:35.88\00:15:37.92 like what are you going to talk about 00:15:37.96\00:15:39.93 and what more is there, and you do some as well... 00:15:39.97\00:15:43.25 don't you Ben? so you guys kind of 00:15:43.29\00:15:45.43 you do some... Ryan... 00:15:45.46\00:15:46.81 and then Ben does some and you put it all together 00:15:46.84\00:15:49.98 and it is... a devotional... 00:15:50.02\00:15:52.34 a kind of a video devotional... Hmmm... hmmm... 00:15:52.37\00:15:54.07 tell us... tell us more... 00:15:54.10\00:15:55.94 We have these... I didn't show these 00:15:55.98\00:15:57.67 but, as you can see we have 2 Study Guides here 00:15:57.71\00:16:03.27 the DVD actually comes with 4 presentations... 00:16:03.31\00:16:08.81 each one is 10 minutes each... but each presentation 00:16:08.84\00:16:11.97 has a study guide that you can go through 00:16:12.00\00:16:14.47 and, it will give you a Biblical foundation 00:16:14.51\00:16:16.94 for what we're talking about 00:16:16.97\00:16:18.39 and take you through the different steps 00:16:18.42\00:16:20.85 that we take you through in the video 00:16:20.89\00:16:23.10 and just really help you to really solidify 00:16:23.13\00:16:26.53 how to engage that particular Tactic 00:16:26.57\00:16:29.15 or to understand that particular Terrain 00:16:29.19\00:16:31.71 or whatever it is that we're talking about 00:16:31.74\00:16:34.14 in that particular video... 00:16:34.17\00:16:35.42 This is great... this is great for 00:16:35.46\00:16:37.90 young people's groups, AY-Adventist Youth, 00:16:37.93\00:16:41.12 Sabbath School... I mean... 00:16:41.15\00:16:42.84 this Study Groups with the Youth... 00:16:42.88\00:16:46.11 this is wonderful... really... I mean... 00:16:46.15\00:16:48.63 and to see you guys doing this... 00:16:48.67\00:16:50.53 it's such a wonderful blessing... 00:16:50.57\00:16:52.40 for us... as older folks it's really wonderful to see 00:16:52.44\00:16:59.68 men on fire for God... I'm loving it... 00:16:59.71\00:17:01.79 and we love that at Dare to Dream too... 00:17:01.82\00:17:04.03 Thank you... What is your vision for 00:17:04.07\00:17:06.24 Unscene Media 00:17:06.28\00:17:07.50 where do you think God... you already know 00:17:07.54\00:17:10.97 where he's brought you from, 00:17:11.00\00:17:12.11 we're going to talk about that in a minute... 00:17:12.15\00:17:13.69 What's your vision... what's your dream? 00:17:13.72\00:17:15.20 Well, we want to... we don't want to just "Produce" 00:17:15.23\00:17:19.12 because we find that ultimately 00:17:19.16\00:17:21.19 for us... we're just 2 guys... 00:17:21.23\00:17:23.19 and as much as we like to do... we can't do everything 00:17:23.23\00:17:27.13 and so our objective is to not just Produce... 00:17:27.16\00:17:30.98 but to train others how to Produce... 00:17:31.02\00:17:33.27 you know, they'll say, "You can give a man a fish... 00:17:33.30\00:17:36.82 and you can feed him for a day... 00:17:36.85\00:17:38.52 or you can teach him how to fish 00:17:38.56\00:17:40.16 and you can feed him for a lifetime... " 00:17:40.19\00:17:41.82 Hmmm... it's that same concept 00:17:41.86\00:17:43.31 except for... you can produce a video 00:17:43.35\00:17:46.15 and capture someone's mind for a day... 00:17:46.18\00:17:48.86 or you can teach them to produce videos 00:17:48.90\00:17:51.29 and they can capture 00:17:51.32\00:17:52.57 everyone else's minds for a lifetime... 00:17:52.61\00:17:54.21 Okay so now... so wait a minute now 00:17:54.25\00:17:55.82 now you're telling us... that the average person 00:17:55.85\00:18:00.40 can produce a video... Absolutely... 00:18:00.43\00:18:02.59 Okay... show me... show me... 00:18:02.62\00:18:05.19 I'm like "Thomas... " 00:18:05.22\00:18:07.76 With technology today it's actually 00:18:07.79\00:18:09.59 fairly easy... to record video... 00:18:09.63\00:18:11.36 I mean... anybody who even has something as simple 00:18:11.39\00:18:14.06 as say... an iPhone... Okay... 00:18:14.10\00:18:16.21 these days... your average iPhone 00:18:16.24\00:18:18.73 will record High Definition Video 00:18:18.77\00:18:21.18 all you need is some way to hold it still 00:18:21.22\00:18:23.69 while you're recording... so... 00:18:23.72\00:18:25.25 if you can get a little... you can even prop it up 00:18:25.29\00:18:27.76 with a book... Okay... 00:18:27.80\00:18:29.12 and this is going to record 00:18:29.16\00:18:30.44 High Definition Video... but the issue is 00:18:30.48\00:18:32.64 that you need to have some good lighting... 00:18:32.68\00:18:34.81 because it's a really small camera... 00:18:34.84\00:18:36.57 Okay... and you don't need a lot 00:18:36.60\00:18:38.00 of money for good lighting... 00:18:38.04\00:18:39.37 I remember I was on a mission in Newfoundland, Canada 00:18:39.40\00:18:42.29 and I needed to set up an interview 00:18:42.32\00:18:44.72 but I didn't have any lighting, so I went to 00:18:44.75\00:18:47.10 Wal-Mart and I bought 2 utility lights... 00:18:47.13\00:18:48.96 I spent $30... and I set them up 00:18:48.99\00:18:51.26 and then I took some tissue paper... 00:18:51.29\00:18:53.49 and covered it over to soften the light... 00:18:53.53\00:18:56.37 and then I started recording... 00:18:56.40\00:18:57.81 when I came back with the footage... 00:18:57.85\00:18:59.28 people thought I had been in a Studio... 00:18:59.32\00:19:01.92 the truth is... you don't need the greatest 00:19:01.96\00:19:04.64 technology... to do this... you can start off 00:19:04.67\00:19:07.26 with something small as even a Camera Phone 00:19:07.29\00:19:09.85 to do your recordings... 00:19:09.88\00:19:11.26 And you just need the skills... Right... 00:19:11.30\00:19:12.98 Absolutely... You just need the information 00:19:13.02\00:19:14.53 to know... how to do it... 00:19:14.56\00:19:16.03 and that's one of the things that we're trying to do... 00:19:16.06\00:19:17.68 I mean... the ultimate goal for our ministry is 00:19:17.71\00:19:20.70 we want to start a training program... 00:19:20.74\00:19:22.56 Okay... our young people can 00:19:22.60\00:19:24.18 come and they can learn the skills 00:19:24.22\00:19:26.42 that they need to be able to produce 00:19:26.46\00:19:28.46 stuff that we're producing... Yes... 00:19:28.50\00:19:31.10 and even right now... we do little workshops 00:19:31.14\00:19:33.71 here and there... in Churches that invite us out 00:19:33.74\00:19:36.38 to teach their youth... their young people... 00:19:36.41\00:19:39.01 how they can use... 00:19:39.05\00:19:40.76 just simple tools... 00:19:40.79\00:19:42.44 like iPhones... like we talked about... 00:19:42.47\00:19:44.01 how to light things with basic... 00:19:44.04\00:19:46.80 with shop lights... Yes... 00:19:46.83\00:19:48.57 you know... things that you can get at Wal-Mart... 00:19:48.61\00:19:51.48 and how to put together movies and short films... 00:19:51.52\00:19:54.36 This is wonderful... with that, we need to have your contact 00:19:54.39\00:19:56.59 information... up on the screen... 00:19:56.63\00:19:58.59 so that... people can go to your website 00:19:58.63\00:20:01.09 and can they invite you from the website 00:20:01.13\00:20:03.56 or they can contact you... 00:20:03.59\00:20:05.26 All the contact information is on the Website... 00:20:05.30\00:20:07.82 That would be great because I'm sure 00:20:07.86\00:20:10.03 that after hearing what you guys are doing... 00:20:10.07\00:20:12.97 people would want to invite you... 00:20:13.00\00:20:14.67 show us some of the things that you brought... 00:20:14.71\00:20:16.44 explain it... 00:20:16.47\00:20:17.53 Right here... I actually have everything 00:20:17.57\00:20:20.14 that I need to produce a video... 00:20:20.17\00:20:22.12 Do you have the camera? Wow... 00:20:22.15\00:20:24.82 Wow... So this is what we shoot... 00:20:24.86\00:20:27.46 we shoot DSLR... and we can get amazing 00:20:27.49\00:20:31.00 video with DSLR these days... 00:20:31.04\00:20:34.57 What's DSLR... for somebody like me 00:20:34.60\00:20:36.36 who has no clue... about that... what's DSLR? 00:20:36.40\00:20:38.82 Basically if you see a camera that looks like this... 00:20:38.86\00:20:41.84 Hmmm... hmmm... it's what they call a... 00:20:41.88\00:20:44.80 Digital... SLR Oh, it's a digital... okay... 00:20:44.84\00:20:47.69 and they get amazing video because of the Chip Size... 00:20:47.73\00:20:51.46 it has a very large Chip... which means... 00:20:51.50\00:20:54.71 that it can take in a lot of "Live information" 00:20:54.74\00:20:57.92 you obviously have some limitations 00:20:57.96\00:21:01.12 that you don't have with a traditional video camera, 00:21:01.16\00:21:04.68 Hmmm... hmmm... but, I'm not going to go into 00:21:04.72\00:21:06.14 technical... just the basics... 00:21:06.18\00:21:08.74 I know because our time is running out and I'm hating that. 00:21:08.78\00:21:11.31 Okay... so go ahead... 00:21:11.35\00:21:12.75 I can show you some of the stuff here... 00:21:12.78\00:21:15.18 Okay... this stuff I carry around 00:21:15.21\00:21:17.87 in my backpack... a roll of Gap Tape... 00:21:17.91\00:21:19.81 Gap Tape comes in handy... 00:21:19.84\00:21:21.66 What do you use it for? 00:21:21.69\00:21:23.44 We can use it for anything... for holding things up 00:21:23.48\00:21:26.56 for taping wires together... Okay... 00:21:26.59\00:21:29.61 the reason we use Gap Tape 00:21:29.64\00:21:30.89 is because it doesn't leave residue on your wires 00:21:30.93\00:21:33.45 like Duct Tape will... if you tape Duct Tape 00:21:33.48\00:21:37.12 down on something and it gets hot... 00:21:37.15\00:21:38.83 it will be like a Slime Monster attacked it... 00:21:38.86\00:21:41.46 Oh... when you're trying it off 00:21:41.50\00:21:43.51 so, we don't use Duct Tape... 00:21:43.55\00:21:45.53 Okay... 00:21:45.56\00:21:46.97 this is another really neat thing to have... 00:21:47.00\00:21:48.98 call it Cinefoil... it's basically just 00:21:49.02\00:21:51.93 black aluminum foil and you can wrap it around 00:21:51.96\00:21:54.61 any kind of light... if you have a shop light 00:21:54.65\00:21:57.23 you can use it to control the direction that your light 00:21:57.27\00:22:00.39 is going in... where do you get that from... 00:22:00.42\00:22:02.45 this... you can order it from a photography store... 00:22:02.49\00:22:06.12 Okay... I actually got this from 00:22:06.16\00:22:09.06 B and H Photo... Okay... 00:22:09.09\00:22:11.50 but yeah... any photography store 00:22:11.54\00:22:13.33 or videography store 00:22:13.37\00:22:15.20 will have stuff like this... Great... 00:22:15.24\00:22:17.93 and, of course, the most important part 00:22:17.97\00:22:20.52 is my Macbook Pro... we use this for editing and... 00:22:20.55\00:22:28.18 We can't leave home without it. Oh... 00:22:28.22\00:22:30.58 So, now, suppose... okay, so... you're telling us 00:22:30.61\00:22:34.69 that if anybody... watching... wants to do 00:22:34.72\00:22:38.39 a movie or a video... this is all that they need... 00:22:38.42\00:22:43.71 to do that... Yup... absolutely... 00:22:43.75\00:22:45.70 Well, they have to have ideas too... 00:22:45.73\00:22:47.28 that's the hard part... 00:22:47.31\00:22:48.75 this stuff is easy... but... 00:22:48.79\00:22:50.63 you know, if you have a good idea, 00:22:50.66\00:22:52.14 then you can make it a reality. Wow... and what's this? 00:22:52.17\00:22:57.01 This is called the Slate... and the number one reason 00:22:57.04\00:23:01.76 why I use this is... sometimes when we record... 00:23:01.80\00:23:04.63 like... for example... I just did a workshop 00:23:04.66\00:23:06.48 down in McAllen, Texas... Hmmm... 00:23:06.51\00:23:08.26 We were training some of the people there 00:23:08.30\00:23:10.35 to shoot with iPhones 00:23:10.38\00:23:12.00 and we did a shoot... 00:23:12.04\00:23:13.65 kind of like... what we're doing right here... 00:23:13.68\00:23:15.68 with 3 people... we had about 4 iPhones... 00:23:15.72\00:23:17.92 each iPhone was focused on a different person 00:23:17.96\00:23:20.13 we had one on a wide shot... 00:23:20.17\00:23:21.94 Will any Smartphone do? 00:23:21.98\00:23:24.27 Not every Smartphone will record full-quality, 00:23:24.31\00:23:29.98 High Definition Video... 00:23:30.02\00:23:31.40 So, you need to make sure that whatever Smartphone 00:23:31.43\00:23:34.01 you have... it records HD... 00:23:34.05\00:23:36.24 Right... Okay... okay... 00:23:36.56\00:23:37.66 And the iPhone is... just happens to be 00:23:37.70\00:23:40.02 a really good... it happens to have a really 00:23:40.06\00:23:42.18 good camera in it... Okay... 00:23:42.21\00:23:43.68 so the reason that I use this is because 00:23:43.72\00:23:47.03 we actually recorded our audio separately... 00:23:47.06\00:23:49.79 which is one thing that makes a big difference 00:23:49.83\00:23:53.21 in the final product... because iPhone is not 00:23:53.24\00:23:56.09 going to record the best audio... 00:23:56.12\00:23:57.51 Ah... but then you have to sync it up... 00:23:57.55\00:23:59.39 We have to sync it together... Yeah... 00:23:59.42\00:24:01.23 So, at the beginning... I mean... people have probably 00:24:01.26\00:24:03.64 seen these in movies... Yeah... Cut... 00:24:03.68\00:24:05.71 Lights... Camera... Action... Right... 00:24:05.74\00:24:07.73 Yeah... yeah... and... 00:24:07.77\00:24:09.73 Okay... and then we use that 00:24:09.76\00:24:12.92 afterwards in Post to sync everything together... 00:24:12.95\00:24:15.47 Wow... This is wonderful! 00:24:15.50\00:24:19.08 you guys have taken the whole idea of 00:24:19.11\00:24:22.69 little becomes much... you know... 00:24:22.72\00:24:25.45 when you place it in the hands of the Lord... 00:24:25.49\00:24:27.41 Amen... and so... that is just 00:24:27.45\00:24:29.65 a wonderful thing... 00:24:29.69\00:24:31.04 What do you want our viewers to take away 00:24:31.08\00:24:33.99 from this interview... each of you... 00:24:34.03\00:24:36.90 What do you want them to know 00:24:36.94\00:24:39.06 when they turn off their television, 00:24:39.10\00:24:43.09 after this interview... what do you them to know 00:24:43.13\00:24:45.72 about you and what you're doing? 00:24:45.75\00:24:46.97 Well, I think for 00:24:47.00\00:24:49.75 for people to walk away with 00:24:49.78\00:24:51.18 and also the mission of our ministry 00:24:51.21\00:24:53.43 is to help people realize that you can do something 00:24:53.47\00:24:58.70 if you feel... that God has impressed 00:24:58.73\00:25:01.69 on your heart that the reality of the spiritual 00:25:01.72\00:25:05.87 battle that we're in... Hmmm... hmmm... 00:25:05.90\00:25:08.16 you can use the tools that you have 00:25:08.19\00:25:10.55 Hmmm... to reach out to your own peers 00:25:10.59\00:25:12.84 to reach out to people around you... 00:25:12.87\00:25:15.09 Hmmm... hmmm... and that's essentially 00:25:15.13\00:25:18.04 what we're seeking to do... even with the "War Plans" series 00:25:18.07\00:25:21.09 we're not just producing a video 00:25:21.13\00:25:22.86 for somebody to sit down on their couch 00:25:22.90\00:25:25.55 with jammies... and have a nice video to watch 00:25:25.59\00:25:31.13 Right... we want to give them a tool 00:25:31.16\00:25:33.05 that they can use... to continue to reach out 00:25:33.08\00:25:36.40 to more people... That's wonderful... 00:25:36.43\00:25:39.02 that's basically what we want people to walk away with 00:25:39.05\00:25:43.08 Yeah... How about you Ben? 00:25:43.11\00:25:44.36 I would say that the thing that I want everyone 00:25:44.39\00:25:46.70 to remember is that... "Dreams can become Realities" 00:25:46.73\00:25:49.85 Hmmm... just about a year ago, 00:25:49.89\00:25:51.35 Ryan and I were first starting 00:25:51.39\00:25:54.07 this ministry and we had a lot of dreams 00:25:54.11\00:25:56.78 we thought... "Oh Man, we could produce DVDs 00:25:56.81\00:25:59.45 and we could do this... and we can train people... 00:25:59.48\00:26:01.57 we can do that... and all of that sounded so great 00:26:01.61\00:26:03.67 and wonderful... but the truth is that 00:26:03.70\00:26:06.15 we had no money... we had no time... 00:26:06.18\00:26:08.56 we had nothing... all we could do was tell people 00:26:08.60\00:26:10.49 that we had a dream... but here we are, 00:26:10.52\00:26:13.03 a year later, and because God has blessed, 00:26:13.07\00:26:15.55 we've been able to turn that dream 00:26:15.58\00:26:16.92 into a reality... Yes... 00:26:16.95\00:26:18.94 so even the name of the Network, the Dare to Dream Network, 00:26:18.98\00:26:20.49 is kind of what we're all about, Praise the Lord... 00:26:20.52\00:26:23.49 dreams can become reality through Christ... 00:26:23.52\00:26:25.74 Amen... amen... and we are thrilled that 00:26:25.77\00:26:28.41 you are going to be, Lord willing, 00:26:28.45\00:26:31.05 a part of our Dare to Dream team... 00:26:31.09\00:26:32.79 we want to thank you so much for all that 00:26:32.83\00:26:35.37 you're doing... for the cause of Christ... 00:26:35.41\00:26:39.06 God will... take us and mold us and use us 00:26:39.10\00:26:42.72 if we just are available... 00:26:42.75\00:26:44.53 if we're just available... 00:26:44.57\00:26:46.28 Well, today you've heard from two young men 00:26:46.31\00:26:49.36 that have been given a mission for the Lord... 00:26:49.39\00:26:53.14 they have, a sense of purpose and focus for God, 00:26:53.17\00:26:56.89 what are you doing for the cause of Christ 00:26:56.92\00:26:59.41 if you haven't figured it out yet, 00:26:59.45\00:27:01.21 then, ask God to show you and then get started 00:27:01.25\00:27:04.35 your life will never be the same again... 00:27:04.39\00:27:07.46 you've seen... how Ryan and Ben 00:27:07.50\00:27:10.87 have just taken all that God has given them 00:27:10.90\00:27:14.35 and they've turned it into a ministry 00:27:14.38\00:27:16.35 that God can use for His glory... 00:27:16.38\00:27:18.28 that's what he wants to do with you... 00:27:18.31\00:27:21.02 He has a plan for you, I know I say this all the time 00:27:21.06\00:27:24.27 but you need to remember 00:27:24.31\00:27:26.06 that God has a plan for you 00:27:26.09\00:27:27.77 a divine plan for you... ask him... 00:27:27.80\00:27:30.36 what does He want you to do... 00:27:30.39\00:27:32.56 and then walk in that plan... 00:27:32.60\00:27:34.70 Well... we've reached the end of another Program... 00:27:34.73\00:27:37.96 Thanks so much for tuning in... 00:27:37.99\00:27:40.06 We really want you to continue 00:27:40.10\00:27:42.00 to take a look at Dare to Dream... 00:27:42.03\00:27:43.93 we have some great things coming up 00:27:43.97\00:27:46.57 in the future and we want you to just 00:27:46.61\00:27:48.90 hang in there with us... know that 00:27:48.93\00:27:51.15 we are really, really trying to find programming 00:27:51.18\00:27:54.81 that works for you... and join us next time 00:27:54.85\00:27:58.31 it just wouldn't be the same without you... 00:27:58.34\00:28:01.77