On October 24th, 2007 00:00:01.06\00:00:03.74 at 1:00 a. m. 00:00:03.77\00:00:05.05 William and Pansy Evans 00:00:05.08\00:00:06.77 received a call that no parents ever want to receive... 00:00:06.81\00:00:09.74 Stay tuned to hear about their journey... 00:00:09.78\00:00:12.21 My name is Yvonne Lewis and you're watching 00:00:12.24\00:00:14.46 Urban Report... 00:00:14.49\00:00:15.75 Hello and welcome to Urban Report... 00:00:36.81\00:00:39.04 Today you're going to meet William and Pansy Evans... 00:00:39.08\00:00:42.48 their story is gripping and touching... 00:00:42.51\00:00:45.32 let's get into it right away... 00:00:45.36\00:00:47.16 Hello, Brother Bill and Sister Pansy... 00:00:47.20\00:00:50.42 welcome to Urban Report... Thank you... 00:00:50.46\00:00:53.65 Hello, Dr. Lewis... 00:00:53.69\00:00:55.34 Thank you so much for being with us today 00:00:55.38\00:00:58.07 and for being willing to share your story with us... 00:00:58.11\00:01:00.91 So, tell us, if you would, what was that call 00:01:00.94\00:01:05.63 on October 24th, 2007... 00:01:05.66\00:01:09.16 walk us through this whole journey... 00:01:09.19\00:01:10.93 Well, actually the event started back on October the 23rd 2007... 00:01:10.96\00:01:19.47 we had just spoken to our oldest son, Christopher Evans, 00:01:19.51\00:01:22.84 who was 20 years old... 00:01:22.87\00:01:24.28 we were unaware that this would our last conversation... 00:01:24.31\00:01:28.31 we were making plans for Thanksgiving Holiday 00:01:28.35\00:01:31.94 and we were 00:01:31.97\00:01:33.90 just planning for the holiday 00:01:33.93\00:01:35.63 we were looking forward to that event... 00:01:35.67\00:01:37.11 and he said, "It's 10:30... you have to go... 00:01:37.26\00:01:39.75 I'll call you later... I love you... " 00:01:39.79\00:01:41.50 we said, "I love you too... I'll call you tomorrow... " 00:01:41.53\00:01:44.12 about three hours later... at 1 o'clock in the morning, 00:01:44.16\00:01:47.24 we received another call... actually, we were asleep 00:01:47.27\00:01:50.18 and the call we got was from Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania... 00:01:50.22\00:01:53.10 Pansy said, "Pittsburgh?" and I said, 00:01:53.13\00:01:56.08 "Why is Chris calling me... calling us at 1 o'clock in the 00:01:56.11\00:01:58.91 morning... " to our surprise... 00:01:58.94\00:02:01.07 when I looked at the phone, I noticed... 00:02:01.11\00:02:03.23 that I didn't recognize the number, 00:02:03.26\00:02:05.32 when I picked up the phone, here's what he answered... 00:02:05.35\00:02:09.20 "Can I speak to William Evans... 00:02:09.24\00:02:10.78 this is Detective Hitches from the Coroner's Office... 00:02:10.81\00:02:13.75 now, you know when you hear the word... "Coroner's Office" 00:02:13.79\00:02:16.69 it's usually not good news... Yes... 00:02:16.72\00:02:18.83 "Do you have a son named Christopher Evans?" 00:02:18.86\00:02:20.68 I said, "Yes... " He said, "Well, he died tonight" 00:02:20.72\00:02:22.66 I said, "What happened?" He said, "He was shot... " 00:02:22.69\00:02:26.77 Oh my! so what was your immediate response to that... 00:02:26.80\00:02:30.85 and tell us... kind of walk us through 00:02:30.88\00:02:33.19 how you were feeling at that point... 00:02:33.23\00:02:35.47 At this point... it's almost like you experience... 00:02:35.50\00:02:42.60 a temporary state of insanity... 00:02:42.64\00:02:45.45 you're not sure if you're hearing what they said correctly 00:02:45.48\00:02:49.29 and your mind has just been taken away from you... 00:02:49.32\00:02:53.47 Yes... you know... that's... that's... again 00:02:53.51\00:02:57.28 it's a call that no parent ever wants to get, 00:02:57.32\00:03:00.69 and your son was living in another city... 00:03:00.73\00:03:04.06 you guys are in Dallas... 00:03:04.10\00:03:05.53 and he was in Pittsburgh... what happened to Chris... 00:03:05.57\00:03:09.59 tell us how he died... 00:03:09.62\00:03:10.73 Well, what happened was that as soon as he hung up the phone, 00:03:10.76\00:03:17.21 there were five teenagers 00:03:17.24\00:03:18.92 that were robbing people... 00:03:18.95\00:03:20.56 robbing people at the bus... where they're getting money 00:03:20.60\00:03:23.03 to buy marijuana... a last shooter approached Chris 00:03:23.06\00:03:30.08 and Chris decided to... I guess... run... 00:03:30.12\00:03:34.04 and I guess the individual, the last shooter, 00:03:34.07\00:03:37.93 decided to shoot him in the back and he ran about 300 yards 00:03:37.96\00:03:41.91 and he collapsed and died... 00:03:41.94\00:03:43.36 Oh my! I happened to have known Chris 00:03:43.39\00:03:48.37 and he was the most delightful young man... 00:03:48.41\00:03:52.42 very talented... tell us about his personality. 00:03:52.45\00:03:57.40 Chris was a 20-year-old Christian young man... 00:03:57.43\00:04:01.99 he was like any other normal 20-year-old... 00:04:02.02\00:04:06.50 he had his goals and his dreams and was pursuing them... 00:04:06.54\00:04:10.75 he's not our only child, however, we have another child 00:04:10.79\00:04:14.97 which is almost 10 years younger... 00:04:15.00\00:04:17.43 but he took his lead as the first child in 00:04:17.47\00:04:21.44 wanting to pursue an education 00:04:21.47\00:04:23.22 and that's why he was there in Pittsburgh... 00:04:23.26\00:04:25.65 he is also 00:04:25.69\00:04:29.18 very comical... 00:04:29.21\00:04:31.88 most people might not see that side of him... 00:04:31.91\00:04:33.84 but we do... living with him... 00:04:33.87\00:04:35.75 Yes, he was very funny and very verbal... 00:04:35.78\00:04:38.94 he loved to talk... he was a talker... 00:04:38.97\00:04:42.06 and he and my son, Jason, were very good friends as well 00:04:42.09\00:04:44.94 when you mentioned 00:04:44.98\00:04:47.52 that he had dreams 00:04:47.56\00:04:50.03 you know, this is Dare to Dream Network 00:04:50.07\00:04:52.53 and we encourage our young people to have dreams... 00:04:52.56\00:04:56.06 what were some of Chris' dreams, what did he want to do? 00:04:56.09\00:04:58.62 Well, he was a Christian young man 00:04:58.66\00:05:01.00 and he wanted to make a difference in his Community... 00:05:01.03\00:05:03.15 well, first of all... 00:05:03.19\00:05:05.85 he wanted to work for the United States Government 00:05:05.88\00:05:08.14 in the field of satellite imagery... 00:05:08.17\00:05:11.40 but he also... he had a desire to make 00:05:11.43\00:05:14.59 the urban community a better place for people of minority... 00:05:14.62\00:05:18.55 he loved people... and he loved people a great deal 00:05:18.59\00:05:22.65 he just wanted to help people to see 00:05:22.69\00:05:25.11 that there's more to life than what's involved in drugs... 00:05:25.15\00:05:27.65 and crime... And he also loved to travel... 00:05:27.68\00:05:31.32 Yes... Ah... all right so... 00:05:31.35\00:05:35.42 he hangs up the phone from you, and he leaves that area 00:05:35.46\00:05:41.20 and he's walking... or somebody approaches him... 00:05:41.23\00:05:45.64 and is trying to rob him... so that they could get money 00:05:45.67\00:05:49.67 for marijuana... that's what you're telling us? 00:05:49.71\00:05:52.87 Right, right, right... These were all teenagers... 00:05:52.90\00:05:54.64 They were all teenagers... 00:05:54.67\00:05:55.77 Okay... and so... he ran... what happened 00:05:55.80\00:06:00.21 after they shot him... what was the process of finding 00:06:00.25\00:06:03.75 the shooters and all that... how did that happen? 00:06:03.79\00:06:07.08 Well, we're glad you asked that question, 00:06:07.12\00:06:10.22 when Chris was robbed... 00:06:10.25\00:06:12.55 actually there were two individuals 00:06:12.59\00:06:14.50 from the School that at he attended... 00:06:14.54\00:06:16.39 another individual who basically lived in that neighborhood... 00:06:16.42\00:06:19.96 he was robbed first... 00:06:19.99\00:06:21.03 Chris actually saw the robbery, he decided to run... 00:06:21.07\00:06:24.87 after they took a few possessions 00:06:24.91\00:06:27.83 from this other young man... 00:06:27.87\00:06:28.91 and then they decided to chase Chris when he was shot... 00:06:28.94\00:06:31.75 now too many things happened... of course, you know when the 00:06:31.78\00:06:34.46 shooter murders somebody... 00:06:34.49\00:06:35.57 the shooter always runs and hides okay... 00:06:35.60\00:06:37.94 so there were three individuals... 00:06:37.97\00:06:39.67 the first was running for his life, 00:06:39.71\00:06:41.34 the individual that witnessed Chris actually died... 00:06:41.38\00:06:44.46 and he ran home and contacted his mother... 00:06:44.50\00:06:46.70 now in the process of contacting his mother... 00:06:46.73\00:06:49.12 they contacted the police... now the individuals 00:06:49.16\00:06:51.51 that were involved in the robbery... 00:06:51.54\00:06:52.95 stole about five dollars from the other individual... 00:06:52.98\00:06:55.93 isn't it amazing that a life is worth only five dollars... 00:06:55.96\00:06:58.91 all right... and then... here's what happened... 00:06:58.94\00:07:02.95 they stole the other individual's cell phone... 00:07:02.99\00:07:06.96 the police traced the cell phone 00:07:07.00\00:07:09.29 and that's how they arrested four of the individuals 00:07:09.33\00:07:12.07 when they arrested the four individuals... 00:07:12.11\00:07:13.66 they identified the shooter... 00:07:13.69\00:07:14.84 I see... I see... so... 00:07:14.87\00:07:18.04 for five dollars... 00:07:18.07\00:07:21.17 for five dollars... someone's life was lost... 00:07:21.21\00:07:24.78 this is what you're telling me, you're son's life was lost, 00:07:24.81\00:07:27.35 these guys got five dollars from someone else... 00:07:27.39\00:07:30.23 Right... but from there... they are 00:07:30.26\00:07:32.75 robbing people and they got five dollars... 00:07:32.78\00:07:35.79 and they are... the thing that's so tragic 00:07:35.82\00:07:38.76 there are so many different tragedies in this... 00:07:38.79\00:07:41.67 the first one, of course, that you lost your precious son 00:07:41.71\00:07:44.69 the second one... that these boys' lives 00:07:44.73\00:07:47.48 have been changed forever as a result of stupid choices... 00:07:47.51\00:07:52.30 I'm sorry... but it's stupid... dumb choices that they're making 00:07:52.33\00:07:56.26 that get them into this lifestyle 00:07:56.30\00:08:00.28 that their whole lives are... they're shut out now... 00:08:00.32\00:08:04.19 they're part of the System now, 00:08:04.22\00:08:05.59 what happened to the shooter... where is he now? 00:08:05.62\00:08:09.54 Well, the shooter is serving time in prison... 00:08:09.58\00:08:13.46 he was acquitted for the murder... 00:08:13.50\00:08:15.69 He was acquitted? 00:08:15.73\00:08:17.30 Yes, Ma'am, he was acquitted for the murder 00:08:17.34\00:08:19.53 and the reason why he was acquitted for the murder 00:08:19.56\00:08:22.31 was because the initial DA really, in my opinion, 00:08:22.34\00:08:25.05 didn't do a thorough investigation 00:08:25.08\00:08:26.56 because I believe they wanted to come with a quick solution... 00:08:26.60\00:08:28.73 and what happened was... he decertified 00:08:28.77\00:08:31.88 four other individuals involved in the robbery 00:08:31.92\00:08:34.74 in exchange for the testimony... 00:08:34.78\00:08:35.92 and basically they all went into Juvenile Detention... 00:08:35.96\00:08:40.52 when these individuals were let out of Juvenile Detention, 00:08:40.56\00:08:45.08 they committed other crime... so, during the trial, 00:08:45.12\00:08:48.27 basically all of them came in in handcuffs... 00:08:48.31\00:08:50.98 And they couldn't be held as credible evidence... 00:08:51.02\00:08:53.66 So, the evidence was not credible... 00:08:53.70\00:08:56.61 all right... now he was found guilty 00:08:56.64\00:08:59.82 for possession of a weapon, right? 00:08:59.85\00:09:02.96 robbery and conspiracy... where he's serving 12 years 00:09:02.99\00:09:05.61 in prison right now... now, unfortunately, 00:09:05.64\00:09:09.68 we got word that two of the individuals... 00:09:09.72\00:09:13.69 or one of the individuals... was involved in crime... 00:09:13.73\00:09:16.94 like carjacking, burglary... assault... 00:09:16.97\00:09:19.25 and that we found out on February 11 that... 00:09:19.29\00:09:21.39 that individual was gunned down in the streets... 00:09:21.42\00:09:23.31 So, one of the perpetrators... of this crime against Chris... 00:09:23.34\00:09:29.39 has been murdered himself... 00:09:29.43\00:09:31.99 Yeah, and you know, Dr. Lewis, I think my wife said 00:09:32.02\00:09:37.18 the most amazing thing... about this trial... 00:09:37.21\00:09:40.34 and she said, we looked at the kid 00:09:40.37\00:09:43.19 that allegedly shot our son 00:09:43.22\00:09:44.98 he was only 15-years-old at the time, by the way, 00:09:45.01\00:09:47.78 my wife said... his action affected two mothers, 00:09:47.82\00:09:50.63 Yes, yes, yes... 00:09:50.67\00:09:53.57 what were you feeling 00:09:53.61\00:09:56.45 looking at this guy because I know 00:09:56.48\00:09:58.41 that you went up to Pittsburgh for the trial... 00:09:58.44\00:10:01.91 what were you feeling as you actually laid your eyes 00:10:01.94\00:10:06.10 on the person that murdered your son? 00:10:06.13\00:10:08.31 I couldn't believe... he looked like such a 00:10:08.35\00:10:11.77 fine young man... looked like someone that 00:10:11.81\00:10:15.22 had a bright future... I just believe that he got 00:10:15.26\00:10:20.05 caught up with the others... seeing him for the first time 00:10:20.08\00:10:26.15 really caused a feeling of 00:10:26.19\00:10:29.27 anger... and I'm just being honest with you 00:10:29.30\00:10:32.60 Of course... Seeing that, you know, 00:10:32.64\00:10:35.23 he took an innocent child's life... 00:10:35.26\00:10:37.79 Yes... But... I must admit... 00:10:37.83\00:10:40.62 that dissipated... over time... 00:10:40.66\00:10:43.38 My! so... you sat there in that Court Room 00:10:43.42\00:10:47.28 hearing the details about what happened to Chris 00:10:47.32\00:10:51.43 and seeing the actual perpetrators... 00:10:51.47\00:10:55.10 and feeling those... I would imagine... 00:10:55.14\00:10:58.19 that you kind of ran the gamut of emotions 00:10:58.23\00:11:01.21 from anger and sadness... because you're hearing 00:11:01.25\00:11:04.27 all of the details that you might not have... 00:11:04.30\00:11:06.65 you want to know but you don't want to know... 00:11:06.69\00:11:11.12 so, he was 15... when he did this crime... 00:11:11.15\00:11:15.51 and he is away now for 12 years but he got acquitted 00:11:15.55\00:11:19.86 I'm still not sure how I understand... 00:11:19.90\00:11:22.15 how he got acquitted of the murder of Chris... 00:11:22.19\00:11:26.14 Because, you see, Dr. Lewis, working in the field of 00:11:26.18\00:11:29.03 Criminal Justice... I understand one dynamic... 00:11:29.06\00:11:30.99 it has to be beyond a reasonable doubt... 00:11:31.02\00:11:33.47 Plus, they did not find the weapon... 00:11:33.50\00:11:35.42 Plus they did not find the weapon... 00:11:35.46\00:11:37.31 Oh... okay... The individual that prosecuted 00:11:37.35\00:11:40.41 the case said, even with this she had to prowl... 00:11:40.44\00:11:42.92 there were two individuals that chased Chris 00:11:42.96\00:11:45.34 with the gun... one was 14... the other was 15 00:11:45.38\00:11:47.69 by-the-way the 14-year-old individual has about a 68 IQ 00:11:47.73\00:11:52.09 and has 3 or 4 kids... A 68 IQ? 00:11:52.12\00:11:56.00 And he has about 3 or 4 kids, okay...children, I'm sorry. 00:11:56.03\00:11:58.60 Oh... But the thing about it... 00:11:58.64\00:12:02.15 both of these individuals chased Chris 00:12:02.19\00:12:04.22 and what the DA... 00:12:04.25\00:12:07.27 the Prosecutor for the case said... 00:12:07.30\00:12:08.45 that if he had had the case first... 00:12:08.49\00:12:09.63 he would have charged both of them with the murder 00:12:09.66\00:12:12.93 and then... we probably would have got a 00:12:12.96\00:12:15.28 fair trial... but the sad thing about it is 00:12:15.31\00:12:18.28 about a week later... 00:12:18.32\00:12:19.60 our DA called us and said that ten of the twelve jurors 00:12:19.63\00:12:23.07 read Chris' story and they said that 00:12:23.11\00:12:24.64 they rendered the wrong verdict... 00:12:24.67\00:12:26.13 But it was too late... But it was too late... 00:12:26.16\00:12:30.23 My... my... my... so after you heard that verdict 00:12:30.27\00:12:34.30 what was your reaction to that? 00:12:34.34\00:12:36.73 Numbness... Yeah there was numbness... 00:12:36.76\00:12:39.29 but for some reason... we were not really upset... 00:12:39.33\00:12:43.13 because you have to realize... the trial happened 18 months 00:12:43.17\00:12:47.53 after the murder... and I must say this... 00:12:47.56\00:12:50.70 I made up my mind 00:12:50.74\00:12:51.82 I wasn't going to be like a Fred Goldman... 00:12:51.85\00:12:53.69 who allowed this OJ Simpson case 00:12:53.72\00:12:55.70 to consume him... and maybe because we are 00:12:55.74\00:12:58.50 Christians... we understand that 00:12:58.53\00:13:00.22 God is in control of everything 00:13:00.25\00:13:02.10 we don't like what happened, 00:13:02.13\00:13:03.91 but we do have to understand that a better day is coming 00:13:03.94\00:13:06.83 and by faith we will see our son again... 00:13:06.86\00:13:09.09 Yes... doesn't that make a difference though? 00:13:09.13\00:13:11.33 I mean... it makes a difference... 00:13:11.36\00:13:13.67 Sister Pansy... what were you going to say? 00:13:13.70\00:13:16.88 On the morning of the trial, I had my brother, 00:13:16.91\00:13:20.55 who pastors in New York, he was there with us 00:13:20.58\00:13:23.29 all three weeks as we went back and forth 00:13:23.33\00:13:26.10 and I remember him saying one thing... 00:13:26.13\00:13:28.84 he said, "I don't know what the outcome is going to be today... 00:13:28.87\00:13:33.17 but I just want you to remember that God is in the business 00:13:33.21\00:13:37.48 of saving souls... and I am not sure... 00:13:37.51\00:13:41.02 if he might have allowed Chris' life to be taken 00:13:41.06\00:13:44.81 to save this young man's life... " 00:13:44.84\00:13:46.96 and that stuck with me throughout the trial... 00:13:47.00\00:13:50.24 even when I heard the verdict that day... 00:13:50.28\00:13:53.21 I was pretty numb... but what kept going through 00:13:53.24\00:13:58.05 my mind was the fact that God is in the business 00:13:58.08\00:14:02.85 of saving souls... Yes... 00:14:02.89\00:14:05.15 Another thing Dr. Lewis... after the trial was over, 00:14:05.18\00:14:08.10 and I know you have other questions, 00:14:08.13\00:14:09.97 the mother approached me and she shook my hand 00:14:10.00\00:14:12.05 and she said, "Sir, I'm sorry about your loss" 00:14:12.08\00:14:14.09 and I looked back and said, 00:14:14.13\00:14:15.35 "Well, the Lord has given your son another chance... 00:14:15.39\00:14:17.38 hope that he will take advantage of it... " 00:14:17.41\00:14:20.89 My! you know... the fact that you're Christians 00:14:20.92\00:14:24.37 tell us how that really has been helpful 00:14:24.40\00:14:31.15 to you through this journey... because... I can't... 00:14:31.18\00:14:35.08 I think every parent puts themselves... 00:14:35.12\00:14:37.73 as they hear this story... they put themselves 00:14:37.77\00:14:40.80 in your place... and think... "What if that were my son... 00:14:40.84\00:14:45.30 how would I respond... what would I do... 00:14:45.33\00:14:47.98 how would I feel?" 00:14:48.01\00:14:49.12 No one wants to go through this, how has this experience 00:14:49.16\00:14:54.06 changed your life? 00:14:54.10\00:14:55.57 I have to be honest with you, even though we were Christians 00:14:55.61\00:14:58.72 we were still angry... Okay... 00:14:58.75\00:15:00.81 Let's talk about that a little bit... 00:15:00.85\00:15:02.73 We still wanted it to end... we really did... 00:15:02.77\00:15:05.44 okay... we went through the... you know those stages 00:15:05.47\00:15:07.65 of denial, anger, bargaining, depression and acceptance... 00:15:07.68\00:15:10.46 Yes... there are exceptions... 00:15:10.49\00:15:13.30 You know the thing about those stages... they are fine... 00:15:13.34\00:15:16.88 and you can go over that process again... 00:15:16.91\00:15:18.70 even though it's been nearly five years since our son passed 00:15:18.74\00:15:21.63 and sometimes I still cannot believe 00:15:21.66\00:15:22.95 that he's no longer with us... even though the evidences 00:15:22.98\00:15:24.78 are there that he's not here... but therefore 00:15:24.81\00:15:28.57 you are angry... 00:15:28.60\00:15:29.69 Were you ever angry with the Lord? 00:15:29.72\00:15:32.45 No, we were never angry with the Lord... 00:15:32.48\00:15:34.85 we were angry with the individuals that took his life. 00:15:34.89\00:15:37.37 Okay... And, because... 00:15:37.40\00:15:41.66 if you think about it... those feelings were there... 00:15:41.70\00:15:45.27 okay... even though... we are Christians 00:15:45.30\00:15:47.56 we still have those feelings... some people said, 00:15:47.60\00:15:49.66 "Well why do you keep crying, you know there's a better day?" 00:15:49.70\00:15:52.39 Because we're human... 00:15:52.42\00:15:53.47 Of course... they asked you why... wait, wait, wait, wait, 00:15:53.51\00:15:57.72 some people asked you 00:15:57.76\00:15:59.20 why were you crying 00:15:59.24\00:16:00.62 because you knew there was a better day? 00:16:00.65\00:16:02.43 Of course... 00:16:02.47\00:16:04.30 Oh my! talk about being out of touch... really... 00:16:04.34\00:16:08.63 I mean... that's out of touch... 00:16:08.67\00:16:12.03 I'm sorry I couldn't hear you say it again... 00:16:12.06\00:16:14.35 There were terrible accusations too, okay... 00:16:14.39\00:16:16.43 you know... like they said that I cried, 00:16:16.46\00:16:18.47 but my wife didn't shed a tear... 00:16:18.51\00:16:20.05 you know... and I must have felt bad because 00:16:20.09\00:16:23.98 I couldn't control my child, so... 00:16:24.01\00:16:25.97 you've heard those accusations 00:16:26.00\00:16:27.11 but you knew that they were not true so... 00:16:27.15\00:16:29.03 you try not to let those things faze you... 00:16:29.07\00:16:30.88 because here's the thing... that was only the exception... 00:16:30.92\00:16:33.87 it wasn't the norm... we had a lot of good support 00:16:33.90\00:16:37.40 but the answer to your question, what helped us is... 00:16:37.44\00:16:40.74 before Chris died... we always had worship everyday 00:16:40.78\00:16:44.05 and that gave us our strength... the Sabbath School Lesson 00:16:44.08\00:16:47.74 during the time of his death was "The Crucible" 00:16:47.78\00:16:49.26 remember that lesson? Ah... okay... 00:16:49.29\00:16:52.27 It was the crucible... and when Chris died... 00:16:52.31\00:16:54.72 the lesson was... "Extreme Heat" 00:16:54.75\00:16:56.33 and it was talking about Job's experience... 00:16:56.37\00:16:59.76 and it gave us strength... by-the-way... 00:16:59.80\00:17:03.13 when I hear pastors talking about Job's wife... 00:17:03.16\00:17:05.73 I say, "Listen, Job lost all ten of his children at one time... 00:17:05.76\00:17:09.52 so, let's not be so hard on Mrs. Job... " 00:17:09.56\00:17:14.29 Yes... yes... But, it was basically because 00:17:14.32\00:17:18.99 we had a relationship with God prior to his death 00:17:19.02\00:17:22.83 and all that... and that continued... 00:17:22.87\00:17:26.01 And also, when we look back at his life... 00:17:26.04\00:17:29.96 and the way he lived it... it gives you an assurance... 00:17:29.99\00:17:34.28 Yes... yes... that's very true, it's unusual 00:17:34.31\00:17:39.42 and it's unfortunate but there are not a lot of 00:17:39.45\00:17:43.77 young guys that are really into the Lord... 00:17:43.81\00:17:48.06 they kind of get detoured and get into the worldly things 00:17:48.10\00:17:51.52 and Chris... loved the Lord... 00:17:51.55\00:17:53.34 and he was involved in his Church 00:17:53.37\00:17:55.13 tell us a little bit about his spiritual journey, if you would, 00:17:55.16\00:17:59.12 Oh my goodness... you want to take that? 00:17:59.15\00:18:01.57 You know, I look back... even when they had the ceremony 00:18:01.61\00:18:07.17 in the Pittsburgh Church where he attended... and they said, 00:18:07.21\00:18:11.60 "You know, when we saw this young man come to Church... 00:18:11.63\00:18:15.98 we wondered so much about him 00:18:16.02\00:18:17.59 because no one knew anything about him... 00:18:17.63\00:18:20.28 except... that he was the first to arrive, 00:18:20.32\00:18:23.82 on Sabbaths... on Friday evening Vespers... 00:18:23.86\00:18:27.33 they had Vespers at their Church... 00:18:27.37\00:18:30.56 and on Wednesday night Prayer Meeting... 00:18:30.60\00:18:32.89 and he was the last to leave... Wow! 00:18:32.93\00:18:35.16 And when he went to Pittsburgh, the first thing he did was 00:18:35.19\00:18:38.86 look for a Seventh-day Adventist Church... 00:18:38.89\00:18:40.36 because he valued his spirituality more than anything 00:18:40.39\00:18:44.36 he always... he identified God as "The Man Upstairs" 00:18:44.39\00:18:48.33 And he had a personal relationship... with the Lord... 00:18:48.37\00:18:53.18 Yes... yes... He sure did... 00:18:53.21\00:18:55.30 and he had a love for the Lord 00:18:55.34\00:18:57.37 and his fellow human beings... Yes, yes, yes... 00:18:57.40\00:19:00.78 how comforting has that been as you've been on 00:19:00.82\00:19:04.11 your journey... your healing journey... 00:19:04.15\00:19:06.32 how comforting has that been to you... 00:19:06.35\00:19:08.45 knowing that your son... had that relationship with Jesus? 00:19:08.49\00:19:12.16 Very comforting... Even though we are still lonely, 00:19:12.19\00:19:16.05 Yes... yes... but... very, very comforting... 00:19:16.09\00:19:19.11 Yes... And then... due to the fact 00:19:19.14\00:19:22.03 that he had a powerful impact in his Community... 00:19:22.06\00:19:25.70 you know, after he died... we got about 110 letters from 00:19:25.73\00:19:29.42 Pittsburghers who didn't even know him... 00:19:29.46\00:19:31.52 Wow! what did some of the letters say? 00:19:31.56\00:19:33.56 Oh, some of them just commented about what a lovely young man 00:19:33.59\00:19:39.03 he was... I remember the bus driver 00:19:39.06\00:19:41.46 that used to take him back and forth... 00:19:41.49\00:19:43.82 made the comments about him 00:19:43.86\00:19:47.68 being so polite... 00:19:47.71\00:19:49.30 once he stepped on that bus 00:19:49.34\00:19:51.22 he never did without greeting him... 00:19:51.25\00:19:53.08 so those are the things that... 00:19:53.11\00:19:54.64 you know keep you assured that he was living the life 00:19:54.67\00:19:58.82 that he should... A fifth year old kid 00:19:58.85\00:20:02.37 wrote a rap song in his honor Really? 00:20:02.41\00:20:05.89 Wow! The music... couldn't stand... 00:20:05.93\00:20:10.95 And you know that Sunday before he was murdered... 00:20:10.99\00:20:19.09 Hmmm... hmmm... there were two ladies 00:20:19.13\00:20:21.11 in the Church... and they asked him 00:20:21.15\00:20:23.06 to come with them... 00:20:23.10\00:20:24.60 well that Saturday 00:20:24.64\00:20:26.07 they asked him to come with them... 00:20:26.11\00:20:27.34 on that Sunday to help clean 00:20:27.38\00:20:29.88 a sickened shut-in's home... 00:20:29.92\00:20:32.35 and they just said, "Chris, come on with me tomorrow" 00:20:32.39\00:20:35.87 they weren't so sure if he was going to show up 00:20:35.90\00:20:39.11 because a young man of his age, to come on a Sunday morning... 00:20:39.15\00:20:43.01 early... to go clean someone's home... 00:20:43.04\00:20:45.41 but when they got to the Church that morning, 00:20:45.45\00:20:47.98 Chris was there before them... 00:20:48.01\00:20:50.03 My! and they said 00:20:50.07\00:20:52.38 he did a thorough job... cleaning that man's house 00:20:52.41\00:20:55.66 and when the gentleman heard on that Tuesday that he was 00:20:55.70\00:20:58.78 murdered... he was so devastated Oh! 00:20:58.81\00:21:01.68 In the meanwhile, Dr. Lewis, this happened... 00:21:01.71\00:21:04.44 and this thing had happened two days before he died... 00:21:04.47\00:21:07.09 My! you know... 00:21:07.13\00:21:09.72 it's amazing to me that 00:21:09.76\00:21:12.60 God has sent you these different words 00:21:12.64\00:21:16.05 of encouragement... to comfort you... 00:21:16.09\00:21:19.43 He's so merciful... He wants you to be comforted 00:21:19.47\00:21:23.06 through this journey... and he let you know... 00:21:23.10\00:21:26.66 the impact that Chris had in his Church... 00:21:26.70\00:21:30.23 in his Community... so that... 00:21:30.27\00:21:31.80 that also... can be a source of comfort to you... 00:21:31.84\00:21:34.94 tell us about... now... once you... 00:21:34.97\00:21:38.61 you went to Court you saw all that... 00:21:38.65\00:21:42.22 these five years now how have you been navigating 00:21:42.26\00:21:48.12 this journey toward wholeness again? 00:21:48.16\00:21:51.15 We have to continue to make adjustments... 00:21:51.18\00:21:55.12 and it's a process that I believe... 00:21:55.15\00:21:58.50 will continue until the Lord comes... 00:21:58.53\00:22:01.81 one thing that we have done recently is that 00:22:01.84\00:22:04.56 we have cleaned out his room, it is now a guest room 00:22:04.59\00:22:07.82 Ah... and initially... 00:22:07.85\00:22:10.80 that was a difficult process... but, you know, the sudden... 00:22:10.84\00:22:14.58 we wanted to do this interview from this room... 00:22:14.62\00:22:16.39 but it didn't work out that way 00:22:16.42\00:22:18.09 Oh, yes, yes... how long did it take before you could 00:22:18.12\00:22:21.69 clean out his room? 00:22:21.72\00:22:22.79 Just a couple of weeks ago... we just did it... 00:22:22.82\00:22:26.14 Wow! bless your hearts... 00:22:26.18\00:22:29.38 And one thing about our journey we have been truly blessed 00:22:29.41\00:22:33.93 because Chris had an impact even after he died 00:22:33.96\00:22:38.67 I remember... there's a statement that 00:22:38.70\00:22:40.88 even though you are physically gone... 00:22:40.92\00:22:42.94 your influence continues to live we didn't know this 00:22:42.98\00:22:46.66 until he died that he was an organ donor 00:22:46.69\00:22:48.67 we were surprised... that at such a young age 00:22:48.71\00:22:53.22 he made a decision to donate his organs 00:22:53.25\00:22:55.36 and how many individuals were helped? 00:22:55.40\00:22:57.44 Many, many of them... And what surprised me... 00:22:57.47\00:23:00.40 even though they recovered his organs in Pennsylvania 00:23:00.43\00:23:03.35 where he died... the first recipient 00:23:03.39\00:23:06.70 was a 20-year-old male... his age... from Texas 00:23:06.73\00:23:09.57 that received his cornea... 00:23:09.60\00:23:10.73 Oh, oh, so... part of him will live on... 00:23:10.77\00:23:15.43 and he had the foresight to do that 00:23:15.47\00:23:21.67 as a young man... it just kind of blows me away 00:23:21.70\00:23:24.58 that Chris was so... ahead of his years... 00:23:24.61\00:23:27.31 you know, he was just so ahead of his years... 00:23:27.35\00:23:30.02 and a mature... yet a fun-loving kid... 00:23:30.05\00:23:33.05 Chris was a fun-loving kid... and the fact that he loved Jesus 00:23:33.08\00:23:37.77 so much... is such an inspiration... 00:23:37.81\00:23:39.85 What did they do in Pittsburgh to commemorate his life? 00:23:39.89\00:23:45.23 Oh, my goodness... you want to take it? 00:23:45.26\00:23:49.38 They planted a tree on the School Campus 00:23:49.41\00:23:53.50 in his honor... they renovated a Dorm... 00:23:53.53\00:23:57.75 and that Dorm is now the Honors' Dorm... 00:23:57.79\00:24:01.94 Wow... they named it after him, they named the Dorm after him? 00:24:01.98\00:24:06.76 Yes, it's called Evans Hall... and let me tell you 00:24:06.79\00:24:10.19 an amazing blessing... 00:24:10.23\00:24:11.91 last year we got a call from his Counselor 00:24:11.95\00:24:14.40 who was the last individual that saw Chris alive... 00:24:14.43\00:24:16.51 he says that it's a Dorm that's been renovated... 00:24:16.54\00:24:18.58 the Evans Hall... the GPA... 00:24:18.62\00:24:20.79 the average GPA has jumped 1.25 00:24:20.82\00:24:22.96 not a 1.25 overall GPA... it jumped 1.25 so the 00:24:22.99\00:24:28.14 average GPA is over 3.0 in that Dormitory... 00:24:28.17\00:24:30.44 because... when somebody enters the Evans Hall Dorm... 00:24:30.47\00:24:33.36 they explain what this Dorm represents... 00:24:33.39\00:24:35.66 so, I'm so thankful for that... Wow! 00:24:35.69\00:24:37.32 In addition, they established a scholarship in his name 00:24:37.36\00:24:40.93 where individuals have been attending schools... 00:24:40.97\00:24:44.51 so we're thankful for that... and to me 00:24:44.55\00:24:47.17 the biggest event is that we got a Decoration from the 00:24:47.20\00:24:50.08 State Senator of Pennsylvania declaring him a positive example 00:24:50.12\00:24:53.57 for his Community... so we're thankful for that... 00:24:53.60\00:24:55.50 Wow! you must be very proud... in the Lord.. 00:24:55.54\00:25:00.06 but proud of Chris' legacy... Very... 00:25:00.09\00:25:03.40 Yes, Ma'am... even though I would trade all that 00:25:03.44\00:25:05.20 just to have him back but we are thankful... 00:25:05.24\00:25:06.97 Yes... for sure... for sure... you know, the thing for us 00:25:07.01\00:25:11.51 to just keep in mind... is First Thessalonians 4 00:25:11.55\00:25:15.33 you know... where... we know that the Lord Himself 00:25:15.36\00:25:19.11 shall descend from heaven with a shout, 00:25:19.15\00:25:21.38 with the voice of the archangel, 00:25:21.41\00:25:22.82 and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ 00:25:22.86\00:25:24.82 shall rise first... I mean... we know 00:25:24.85\00:25:27.55 that we are going to be with our loved ones 00:25:27.59\00:25:30.80 one day... Yes, we will... 00:25:30.83\00:25:32.69 I know that for you... that is what keeps you 00:25:32.72\00:25:36.37 that's what keeps you going... 00:25:36.40\00:25:37.81 do you have any final thoughts 00:25:37.84\00:25:40.28 for any parents 00:25:40.32\00:25:41.74 that are going through what you went through... 00:25:41.78\00:25:44.39 what would you say to them? 00:25:44.43\00:25:45.60 My first advice to them would be 00:25:45.64\00:25:50.38 you know... it's devastating losing a child... 00:25:50.41\00:25:54.30 but the first thing to remember is... 00:25:54.34\00:25:58.50 you have a choice after that child is gone... 00:25:58.54\00:26:01.91 you could choose either to be bitter or better... 00:26:01.94\00:26:05.28 Ah... We focused on the second 00:26:05.31\00:26:07.95 to be better... in doing so, 00:26:07.99\00:26:10.55 there are some things that you really need to do... 00:26:10.59\00:26:13.62 first of all... you just really have to 00:26:13.66\00:26:15.75 strengthen your relationship with the Lord... 00:26:15.79\00:26:17.86 realizing that... He is in the midst of all of this 00:26:17.90\00:26:23.43 secondly, I might say... "lots of prayers" 00:26:23.47\00:26:27.91 pray continuously... what helped me... 00:26:27.94\00:26:32.22 was a lot of self-talk... positive self-talk... 00:26:32.25\00:26:36.21 and not avoiding to separate yourself from your friends 00:26:36.24\00:26:43.56 because so many of them bring you comfort... 00:26:43.60\00:26:46.82 in doing so... you might be tempted more towards 00:26:46.86\00:26:50.07 going into depression due to the situation... 00:26:50.11\00:26:53.29 Hmmm... hmmm... but continue to hold on 00:26:53.32\00:26:58.65 to the hope that you have... those were some of the things 00:26:58.68\00:27:01.72 that were helpful... for me... 00:27:01.76\00:27:03.33 And Dr. Lewis, even though we are Christians... 00:27:03.37\00:27:06.32 it doesn't hurt to seek professional help 00:27:06.36\00:27:09.26 Hmmm... good point... go to a Counselor... 00:27:09.29\00:27:12.83 we went to a Grief Counselor, and also... 00:27:12.86\00:27:14.98 you helped us as well... you helped us a great deal 00:27:15.01\00:27:19.04 when you gave us that little situation of confidence 00:27:19.07\00:27:21.63 and we want to thank you for that... 00:27:21.67\00:27:23.08 Well, praise the Lord... 00:27:23.12\00:27:24.30 But the main thing is... seek professional counseling... 00:27:24.33\00:27:28.74 if it is necessary... 00:27:28.77\00:27:30.64 a professional Christian Counselor 00:27:30.68\00:27:32.09 they provided us with... they helped us a great deal... 00:27:32.13\00:27:34.52 in addition, remember, even though we miss Chris 00:27:34.56\00:27:37.65 tremendously... we still have our daughter, Christina, 00:27:37.69\00:27:39.75 we have to continue... 00:27:39.78\00:27:41.32 we cannot let our son's life or death consume us 00:27:41.36\00:27:45.42 where we are not raising our daughter... 00:27:45.46\00:27:47.17 we are also trying to get to heaven... 00:27:47.20\00:27:49.48 Yes... so, those are some of the things 00:27:49.52\00:27:51.77 that we think are so important... 00:27:51.80\00:27:53.58 Well, thank you so much for being with us 00:27:53.62\00:27:55.80 we are so grateful to you... may God bless you 00:27:55.84\00:27:58.45 as you continue with Him... 00:27:58.49\00:27:59.69 Thank you so much for tuning in... 00:27:59.73\00:28:02.24 Tune in next time... 00:28:02.27\00:28:03.49 it just wouldn't be the same... without you... 00:28:03.52\00:28:05.62